Crazy to think in 2 years he basically was able to stonewall a thanos with four infinity stones. Even crazier that there’s going to be someone giving both him and Wanda a run for their money in his next movie.
@@Charles-dm3yq the thing what im hoping is that wanda is trying to mess with the multiverse by creating another dr strange so she can being her children back but thye werent really ever a live so its harder than normally
I love the concept of magic and as soon as Dr. Strange was introduced he instantly became one of my favorite characters. I'm excited for more magic in the MCU
The amount of people sleeping on Strange for his own movie is troublesome to say the least. Before 2016, I remember most of the mcu fandom not having the slightest idea who he even was. He typically got the praise he long deserved when he 1v1 Thanos. I like to think there's no real measure to what he's capable of.
@@Steve-es6so OP was talking about his pre-infinity war underratedness. People seriously slept on his first solo movie, and as an avid reader I'm glad my boy Strange got the hype he deserves :')
Strange's fight with Peter in NHW was rather a casual one, if Strange needed to defeat Peter (if Peter was an enemy) then Strange would have done that but Peter was a friend so ya
yah, that was very obvious tho. I've seen a lot of memes on fb that the thing that only defeats Dr. Strange is Geometry. Well, I guess not, Dr. Strange is a neurosurgeon before and I think the it is more complicated than Geometry. That happened to Dr. Strange in No Way Home cu'z it had to. The movie could have ended early, so a little bit of distraction should keep him out of the plot.
@@AJReyes7039 also he was going thru post-blip depression as wong became the sorcerer supreme also if strange wanted to defeat spidey, he would have one shotted him
Technically, Agathas wandavision quote of “Your power Exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme” no longer applies to Dr. Strange because Wong is now confirmed to be sorcerer supreme since Strange was snapped. This technically means that there’s still a chance that Base Dr. Strange could still be more powerful than Wanda but right now, I still believe she is more powerful due to her feats.
"Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme in this dimension, once believed that Chaos Magic didn't exist. He thought the unpracticed, haphazard nature of Chaos Magic made it anathema to sorcerers in light of "true" magical disciplines. He has since rectified his understanding. He knows better now; knows that it is actually the oldest form of magic. That it was the first. The earliest primordial glint of cosmic understanding and happenstance. The improbable, impossible spark of life flaring up - THAT was Chaos Magic. Chaos Magic is neither constructive nor destructive, it is not limited by good or evil. It's the possibility of both, neither and everything in between. A die you cast. A balanced wheel moving between life and death." - Wanda Maximoff of Universe 616, The Pretender, The Redeemer, The Scarlet Witch
@@littleone5282 yes, in the comics (I think in AvX if I'm correct) it is stated that the pure psionic power of Phoenix Energy and Chaos Magic are like Ying & Yang ☯️.
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos yeah I searched after this person's comment. Actually they saying now chaos magic is the spark of life. And earliest primordial glint of cosmic understanding and happenstance. I thought phoenix is the spark of life.
Strange is a great character but battles are some times decided on the convenient of the story, example you keep comparing his power level to Thanos and how he was able to go toe to toe with him but you have to remember that in the same movie just a little early he fought Ebony Maw and was defeated, and Ebony Maw was no where near the power level of Thanos when he had the infinity gauntlet. Still great video! It's funny how infinity glove Thanos struggles with him and Ebony Maw merely telekinetic chokes him unconscious with a piece of metal pipe. This is the golden age for comics in movie and I'm loving it.
To be fair, Dr. Strange pulled his better tricks out of his hat against Thanos. It was probably for the sake of the story he didn't do so well against Maw.
I think Dr Strange is the strongest in the MCU. Mans opened up the multiverse with no infinity stone. He should have been able to solo Thanos with that kind of power honestly.
@@fernandosantana7503 why you all compare classic Dr Strange with MCU Thanos? Comic Thanos beats all of avengers combined, with no single infinity stone
@@ShmokeTommy I read a comic he already snapped Wanda's throat out , idk why these girls are so biased , the truth hurts Dr . Strange is the only wizard to last till this year as an avenger
the most interesting abt Strange as a sorcerer is how versatile he is. the way he can conjur up different weapons/shields, perform reality-bending spells, give off energy blasts, transmute matter, teleport, etc. and he only gets better in each film he's in. imagine how OP he'll be in Multiverse of Madness
I'd love to see strange scale straight to the number 1 spot over all in the MCU for power scaling after his next movie. I doubt it, but it feels right to have Dr strange at number 1
I believe that scaling is subject to specific aspects, and powers only matter to push narratives, if for instance scarlet witch is the villain, she will lose in the end, or lesser characters will scale to her in a one on one, irrespective of any feats or powers shown, scaling only matters when they are the protagonist and not the antagonist essentially
I had no idea about how op strange was before i watched infinity war. It's awesome that all powerhouses of mcu (except hulk) got to shine in the film. Thor shifting the tide of the battle in Wakanda, strange vs thanos, wanda holding back thanks and destroying mindstone..... Future films would surely pay homage to dr strange
One imagines that in the 14,000,605 times that Dr. Strange looked into the future for every possible scenario for End Game, that he got in a lot of Wizardry practice.
While I loved this video I think you overlooked a huge contender for having as much power as strange. I am of course referring to Drax drawing a finger across his throat. Here he clearly shows insane speed with his decisive slice in a sideways motion across his throat as well as a lot of durability, as his throat is not sore after he does this. Of course I would be remiss to discount the great power it holds as it allows him to kill others in another dimension not mentioned in this video: his “imagination”. Lastly, he holds great hacks powers with this as he strikes so much fear into those in the room that he shakes(as seen in the scene in which he learns this dreadful power in the first Guardians movie). While he did not survive the battle with thanos, this is only because he did not have the chance to fight him one on one as strange got in the way. Like fingers making a snapping motion would be more powerful than drawing a line with his finger across his neck. Again, thanks for the video, but ignoring such a blatant challenger to Strange leaves me wondering the validity of it.
So dr.stranger is a Bethesda character, rising to the top and becoming the leader of the guild(sorcerer supreme) after a couple quest(years) while those who studied for most of their life’s must stand aside and respect him
I feel like doctor strange power level will be affected by what the writers do with the vishanti but I do think scarlet witch will be more powerful because it seems like marvel is setting up some house of m level event with her .
Wanda will have to get her own movie to beat Dr. Strange. In the MCU, the star of the movie always wins. In Civil War.. Captain America beats Iron Man. In No Way Home, Spider-Man beats Dr. Strange. In Thor Ragnarok, Thor beats Hulk. See the pattern? The star of the movie always wins in the MCU. So in Doctor Strange 2, Wanda will lose to Dr. Strange if she is the villian because it's his movie.
Thanos should consider himself lucky strange had to be written out of the endgame fight by holding back the water. With no stones strange would wipe the floor with him
@@KeyIssues wait do you seriously think that Bro Thor is stronger physically then Infinity war Thor 🤣. Bro Thor is more powerful because of Mjolnir, Infinity war Thor is faster and more agile and could beat the twin sword Thanos. You literally scaled a unfit Thor to his strength at his prime. The Russo brothers have contradicted themselves many times
When it comes to the whole Dr Strange vs Scarlet Witch and who’s more powerful there is a easy way to explain it (apologies for how long this is): They are both more powerful than each other for different reasons. Strange has more variety of spells and ‘powers’ thus more powerful. Wanda has more inherent power and inherently powerful/destructive spells. She was even able to cast spells like a Probability Hex without knowing. People refer to the statement from the Darkhold that the Scarlet Witch’s power surpasses the Sorcerer Supreme. But we don’t know if that refers to Strange precisely or the typical ability level of the Sorcerer Supreme. But in Endgame, The Ancient One said that Strange would be the best of them, even her, and she drew extra power from the Dark Dimension, plus the powers she had as Sorcerer Supreme. When people talk about fighting Thanos, it’s important to note that Wanda fought a Thanos with no Infinity Stones and could’ve killed him. Where as Strange fought a Thanos with 4 Infinity Stones in a toe-to-toe / back and forth fight. He was fighting defensively in this moment so that Tony could rejoin the fight. What’s interesting to remember as well is that Wanda as the Scarlet Witch has way more power than she did as Wanda from AOU through to Endgame. She’s very new to her power and seemingly doesn’t have full control over her power or an understanding, although with her reading the Darkhold she may know more. But I imagine there will be checks and balances, like the more powerful she becomes, the stronger the influence Chthon may have over her? Strange on the other hand is way more familiar with his abilities and has access to hundreds of books to further his power. But Strange is more precise, experienced and skilled. He’s like a sniper. While Wanda is just angry and ‘spray & pray’ so she’s more like a Machine Gun. But in a fight, power isn’t everything. Skill, strategy, tactics and intelligence are vital. That’s the whole Batman vs Superman premise. So just because on the surface Wanda appears to be more powerful than Strange, doesn’t mean that Strange is completely outmatched by her or unable to beat her. In the ‘Avengers Dissembled’ comic, Wanda was going crazy and Dr Strange was able to beat her/incapacitate her. So in the comics Dr Strange has displayed he can beat her even though she’s more powerful. So I would say Wanda is more inherently powerful than Strange, Strange has more powers and abilities at his disposal.
It really depends. Like you said wanda is more like a machine gun while strange is like a sniper. I don’t see one as more powerful than the other. They’re both insanely powerful in different situations. If strange has the time stone I’d say that he is stronger but now that it is atomized I’d say they’re pretty even
@@j_m12341 but Strange has way more books, resources and objects to help him. And like I said, the nature of how his magic works, based on what we saw and were told in Doctor Strange, would imply that he could do anything if he knows the spell for it. The difference is Strange has to be consciously aware of this spell and it’s workings, where as it looks like Wanda doesn’t necessarily need to. Wanda currently just has the Darkhold. It’s a powerful book but it’s one of 1000s. Strange has way more. I think it’s also important to mention that Wanda only has her Chaos Magic, what she learns from the Darkhold & Agatha’s (but even then it appears more like she absorbed a large majority of it and mystical wisdom). There is no magic added by the Mind Stone. All the Mind Stone did was amplify her power and show her a vision of the future. There is no Nexus Being magic. This whole Nexus Being thing hasn’t actually been confirmed. Marvel have not stated she is a Nexus Being, they just referenced it with the Nexus Drug advert in Wanda Vision. And even then, it’s not a form of magic. And three of the magics you mentioned are all the same. Chaos Magic, Scarlet Witch Magic and Base Magic are the same magic. Her Base Magic (from AOU to Endgame) is the powers and abilities she knows how to use consciously. It’s Chaos Magic but she isn’t aware of it, nor does she fully know how to use it. The Magic she’s using as the Scarlet Witch is her Chaos Magic, just with her having more awareness of her using it, and it being more powerful. This is a problem with watching peoples fan theories online and with constantly having them bombarded at you. The best example I can think of is New Rockstars. Since WandaVision, they have began to talk about their theories and as if they are absolute fact, not an opinion or theory. Or look at the Dark Energy theory, which sounds really cool, so well done to MT for thinking of it. But it’s a theory that’s been pitched as being concrete and absolute. And then the causal viewer or fans of New Rockstars believe that it is the truth, then get disappointed when it isn’t. Look at the expectations of WandaVision. Those were fuelled by fan theories and references to comics. But that is all they are: fan theories. They aren’t concrete or absolute fact. New Rockstars aren’t the only one, but they’re the biggest and it isn’t all their fault. It is also the viewer who think that every word a person online says, when it comes to theories, is gospel truth.
You accurately portrayed doctor strange, but he's even more powerful than what you described. The black Priest "Dr. Strange", would laugh at a fully fed Galactus every time a universe died and was rebourn. Thats how powerful an experienced Dr. Strange is.
The nature of the mystic arts is Strange's weakness You need to do gestures for a particular spell and if any one can restrain Strange from doing this the person wins the fight
That is why when I watch doctor strange 1, instantly became my fav mcu character.and the start of obsessing to benedict cumberbatch. So i watch sherlockwhich is his masterpiece a d most of his movie,,just amazing,,
I think you should also include intellect as one of the factors to consider when ranking their powers. Doctor Strange has photographic memory: he masters knowledge very fast and with ease. Him studying the books in the Sanctum, no one knows the variety of spells he has up his sleeves.
Apparently he can just casually break open the multiverse with minimal effort and portal a massive army of people from around the universe to one spot. And that whole thing where he saw billions of futures. Idk he seems pretty majorly powerful, to the point the movies do sleep on it a little
Have you done Quake, Jessica Jones or Ana Helstrom yet? I'd love to see how those MCU ladies fare against the heavier hitters. I already know Quake is gonna rank high since she can hold her own against Ghost Rider, and her very last feat in Agents of SHIELD was taking out an entire fleet of starships (a feat we've only seen Carol do as well).
Pertaining to the mirror dimension "it's going to be positive energy no more negative energy when I look in the mirror at me I'm 5'8 and still growing!" 2003-2022.🙌 Terrill TC!
I have a really hard time believing the statement that thor was at his most powerfull in endgame like the writers said. Like he didnt even use much of his lightning only trying to fight thanos head on. He didnt even fly one single time in the final fight.
@@condawg5984 yup if Thor catches him off guard he dead, but if not Strange opens a portal if he throws Stormbreaker then just send it into Thor's head
I really hope the battles in Mutliverse of Madness are a amazing as the fight on Titan. I want to see a bunch of weird spells and effects, I'm super excited for the movie.
I dont understand how thor is apparently at his strongest during endgame. He's been severely depressed for 5 years and spent all his time drinking. How the heck is he 'better than ever'. Makes 0 sense
Asgardian physiology is not the same as a humans. Volstagg is very far and one of Asgard’s greatest warriors. Odin is old as fuck and still the strongest while he’s alive.
People don't know that Strange is proficient in almost all magic (even chaos magic which Wanda has) so if he were to go head to head in a fight strange would win. People will argue that Wanda can manipulate reality but strange literally almost broke the multiverse. I believe that that's a big one up for reality manipulation with in the borders of a town.
He didn't break Multiverse by choice that was a mistake in his spell.. (because of Peter's intervention) which was a dangerous spell he was not ready to use which is why Wong told him not to do. 😂 Wanda can break the multiverse without any use of spells cuz she's a nexus being.. the universal time flow depends upon her actions.
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos except when we see her she just screams and had no control over breaking reality until she does it in fact she has little control until the end of that series. Not only this but it doesn't disprove the point made. Strange doing it by accident still is him breaking the multiverse also if Peter hadn't intervened then he would have been able to cast the spell no problem. So you just stated that Strange can do powerful spells with no problem if not asked to change them multiple times mid-casting. As Strange stated "we have used it for less". Also I was talking strictly movies not comics so movies Wanda hasn't become a Nexus being yet. Now if we look at comics we can see Strange has become the equivalent to a god before. If we also look at the in comics stats listed on the marvel website we see that strange matches her in energy, fight skill, and strength but out ranks her in speed durability and intelligence which means he would be more powerful.
I cannot stress enough how desperate I am for Doctor Strange 2, it will have my fav characters in the MCU and probably the most powerful, Wanda and Strange. It goes without saying that I love magic haha.
We all had such high hopes for dr strange in multiverse of maddness and that movie completely broke my heart. They made strange a running shit instead of most powerful being that he was supposed to be💔
I swear out of all MCU characters Strange and Wanda are the 2 characters whose powers I would want the most but obviously I would go with Wanda due to her feats and agatha saying she's more powerful and that Wanda doesn't need incantations or hand gestures to cast a spell while when stephen was unable to talk or restrained he couldn't use his magic I mean he was trapped in the mirror world by peter in no way home and was only able to escape because NED opened a sling ring portal. But besides Wanda strange would be my number 2 in whose powers would I rather have.
actually Agatha said SW is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme which is currently WONG. And we all know Ancient One stated that Dr Strange is meant to be the BEST of all Sorcerer Supreme (past, current, & future obv). Imo that statement by Agatha was meant to purposely confuse fans and got even more mindblowing as it was revealed that Wong is actually the current SS
@@JC3178 same reason everyone in the MCU scales to Mach 100 being able to react to a binary catpn marvel. Fking stupid and wastes the hype of her one real flashy power.
The strangest, pun definitely intended, thing about the Dr Stange movies is since his main enemies are also some of the strongest in the universe its hard to judge how powerful everyone really is.
the fact that strange is THIS strong and wong is the sorcerer supreme and once wanda fully becomes the scarlet witch she will surpass both of them. The magic in the mcu is getting insane i cant wait to see all three in multiverse of madness
its soooo BS how they just made him lose against peter in the mirror dimension..... Yes peter is a prodigy and genius but defeating strange in the mirror dimension with "geometry" ???? thats just bad writing. And now everyone says "dr strange's weakness is math" or " dr strange is weak to strictly math based opponents" like wtf is that even supposed to mean???? are yall serious?
Question, if the power stone can destroy a planet and we see the power stone pressed into thors head in the beginning of infinity war wouldnt that mean that thors durabilty scales to the powerstone? Great vid btw.
I think Thanos was only using a fraction of the power stone's power to slowly kill Thor, to mess with them. If he wanted to obliterate him, he would of been able to instantly.
We really haven't seen much from him in MCU. He used the Time Stone in order to bargain his way out of the situation in the first film. He lost to Maw and Thanos in IW. He was subdued by Spiderman in No Way Home. He was only a nuisance to Scarlett Witch in the second movie. He hasn't won any battle he's been in.
While he is Sorcerer Supreme, he still often has to ask for boons from other deities for spells. Wanda is powered directly by Cthon as she is an Avatar of Cthon and a Nexus being. The MCU will Nerf her but at this moment, with the Darkhold; she is a multiversal threat. The closest version to that of Strange that we've seen is Strange Supreme from What-If. I have firm belief that the 'evil' strange from the next movie is either Strange as a disciple of Dormammu or Nightmare really messing with Strange's mind.
Scarlet witch being stronger than the SS means nothing now since Wong is the SS and now that Strange isn't the SS he can become stronger than the Witch
I think now No Way Home is out it brings into question. Was the Scarlet Witch being stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme refering to strange or Wong. Wong has been the sorcerer supreme since the blip started and is still the sorcerer supreme as of current mcu time. We know strange is stronger than Wong so
Since scarlet witch and sorcerer supreme are both titles, i think that no matter who is sorcerer supreme, the scarlet witch will always be more powerful
Breaking the speed formula does not mean that the speed itself is imesurable, it's not absolute considering neither time or space is. Einsteins velocity addition showcases this quite well using reference frames and the speed of light, which we know exists in the dark dimension, otherwise there would be no light.
Your speed scaling is still way off. Maximum flying travel speed is not the same as combat speed. If they were going that fast, why is a normal human like Peter Quill able to function at all in combat with them?
Friend, buddy, pal, that’s how scaling works. You have to make these concessions for the universe to make sense. In the comics a “normal human” like Batman or Black Widow can react faster than light. It’s not that serious. Also, Peter is a half celestial 😘
Crazy to think in 2 years he basically was able to stonewall a thanos with four infinity stones. Even crazier that there’s going to be someone giving both him and Wanda a run for their money in his next movie.
Actually we dont know that yet wanda could be the baddie
@@Lucci136 Wandas definitely a baddie alright
@@Charles-dm3yq the thing what im hoping is that wanda is trying to mess with the multiverse by creating another dr strange so she can being her children back but thye werent really ever a live so its harder than normally
*million years
He has a way of training outside the laws of time, like the thing in dbz
I love the concept of magic and as soon as Dr. Strange was introduced he instantly became one of my favorite characters. I'm excited for more magic in the MCU
my favorite hero as well
Dr strange is my favorite character on the marvel movies
@@semogasukses7124 my too because of Benedict
Same
What i like about him at first was his interdimensional portal
Would you be interested in a Doctor Strange vs Scarlet Witch video?
Yes, u personally think that Dr strange would win due to the fact that he has far more experience than wanda
Yesss! This fight would be very interesting because their powers are so cool. Strange has advantage in skill but Wanda definietly overpowers him
Yea that would interesting, Skill and Power vs Raw chaotic power
YES
PLEASE MAKEW ITTTT=
The amount of people sleeping on Strange for his own movie is troublesome to say the least. Before 2016, I remember most of the mcu fandom not having the slightest idea who he even was. He typically got the praise he long deserved when he 1v1 Thanos. I like to think there's no real measure to what he's capable of.
wdym, he's literally one of the most overrated character in mcu rn
@@Steve-es6so OP was talking about his pre-infinity war underratedness. People seriously slept on his first solo movie, and as an avid reader I'm glad my boy Strange got the hype he deserves :')
@@Steve-es6so overrated? He’s now getting the hype he deserves just like Wanda
@@Steve-es6so Overrated!? I would like if you would elaborate this please?
Not those of us who grew loving him in the 80s!
Strange's fight with Peter in NHW was rather a casual one, if Strange needed to defeat Peter (if Peter was an enemy) then Strange would have done that but Peter was a friend so ya
yah, that was very obvious tho. I've seen a lot of memes on fb that the thing that only defeats Dr. Strange is Geometry. Well, I guess not, Dr. Strange is a neurosurgeon before and I think the it is more complicated than Geometry. That happened to Dr. Strange in No Way Home cu'z it had to. The movie could have ended early, so a little bit of distraction should keep him out of the plot.
He definitely hold back. He has to, considering his powers
Well said
Of course he wasn't going all out
@@AJReyes7039 also he was going thru post-blip depression as wong became the sorcerer supreme also if strange wanted to defeat spidey, he would have one shotted him
Technically, Agathas wandavision quote of “Your power Exceeds that of the sorcerer supreme” no longer applies to Dr. Strange because Wong is now confirmed to be sorcerer supreme since Strange was snapped. This technically means that there’s still a chance that Base Dr. Strange could still be more powerful than Wanda but right now, I still believe she is more powerful due to her feats.
She didn't mean any person. The Sorcerer supreme is a rank. Wanda is more powerful than that rank.
@@littleone5282 what
@@SexyPug it was easy to understand
@@swerzye4472 how can you be more powerful than the rank when everyone in the rank are different people thus have different power levels
@@swerzye4472 dumb comment too btw. If it's so easy to understand say what he means then. Instead of saying it was easy and move on lmao
It’s Dr. Strange’s world, we’re just living in it.
not after you watch loki
@@nuggystan9128 It's Dr strange 's universe we are living on it
It's Loki's multiverse and he's roaming through it
My favorite character. And you definitely explained how Spider-Man survived him because he wasn't trying to hurt or exterminate him. Great video.
Exactly he wasn't trying to hurt him he just wanted the box
GREAT KEY 🗝 ISSUES MCU DOCTOR STANGE POWER SCALING VIDEO.
"Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme in this dimension, once believed that Chaos Magic didn't exist. He thought the unpracticed, haphazard nature of Chaos Magic made it anathema to sorcerers in light of "true" magical disciplines. He has since rectified his understanding.
He knows better now; knows that it is actually the oldest form of magic.
That it was the first.
The earliest primordial glint of cosmic understanding and happenstance.
The improbable, impossible spark of life flaring up - THAT was Chaos Magic.
Chaos Magic is neither constructive nor destructive, it is not limited by good or evil.
It's the possibility of both,
neither and everything in between.
A die you cast.
A balanced wheel moving between life and death."
- Wanda Maximoff of Universe 616, The Pretender, The Redeemer, The Scarlet Witch
This is an amazing quote, thank you.
Isn't phoenix the spark of life?
get a life you waffler
@@littleone5282 yes, in the comics (I think in AvX if I'm correct) it is stated that the pure psionic power of Phoenix Energy and Chaos Magic are like Ying & Yang ☯️.
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos yeah I searched after this person's comment. Actually they saying now chaos magic is the spark of life. And earliest primordial glint of cosmic understanding and happenstance. I thought phoenix is the spark of life.
Strange is a great character but battles are some times decided on the convenient of the story, example you keep comparing his power level to Thanos and how he was able to go toe to toe with him but you have to remember that in the same movie just a little early he fought Ebony Maw and was defeated, and Ebony Maw was no where near the power level of Thanos when he had the infinity gauntlet. Still great video! It's funny how infinity glove Thanos struggles with him and Ebony Maw merely telekinetic chokes him unconscious with a piece of metal pipe. This is the golden age for comics in movie and I'm loving it.
To be fair, Dr. Strange pulled his better tricks out of his hat against Thanos. It was probably for the sake of the story he didn't do so well against Maw.
@@Howzernn I agree.
Nah, mcu is dead now n running off the fumes from normie hype trains
@@TheDoomslayersDaddy literal npc
@@TheDoomslayersDaddy
Thanks for your thoughts bro, no one here cares tho
I think Dr Strange is the strongest in the MCU. Mans opened up the multiverse with no infinity stone. He should have been able to solo Thanos with that kind of power honestly.
Thanos can never defeat him with space stone alone
1. Wanda 2. Strange 3. Thor
@@legouniverse2276 classic doctor strange and black priest strange would wash them out the water
@@fernandosantana7503 yep
@@fernandosantana7503 why you all compare classic Dr Strange with MCU Thanos? Comic Thanos beats all of avengers combined, with no single infinity stone
he’s always been my favorite marvel character. he’s one of the most powerful mcu superheros, but he’s somehow still super underrated
Ya know... I'm something of a marvel fan myself
he just keep losing in fights lmao when he finally wins one he gonna be on the books !
@@ShmokeTommy I read a comic he already snapped Wanda's throat out , idk why these girls are so biased , the truth hurts Dr . Strange is the only wizard to last till this year as an avenger
@@ShmokeTommy dormammu, kaecilius, octopus, gargantus, lizard, mordo, he doesnt even fight, he toys with oponents, most powerfull magician
After i saw the fight between Strange and Thanos he has been one of my favourites, i just love his magic and how he uses it.
the most interesting abt Strange as a sorcerer is how versatile he is. the way he can conjur up different weapons/shields, perform reality-bending spells, give off energy blasts, transmute matter, teleport, etc. and he only gets better in each film he's in. imagine how OP he'll be in Multiverse of Madness
I'd love to see strange scale straight to the number 1 spot over all in the MCU for power scaling after his next movie.
I doubt it, but it feels right to have Dr strange at number 1
why do you doubt it? he’s already one of the strongest after his one movie
@@ihaveasmalltoe533 the fact he’s asking for scarlet witches help in the next movie shows she’s at a big top level just like he is
He has always been my #1!!!
He's probably gonna be second. They're obviously setting Wanda up to be absurdly OP
Love the frequency of power scaling videos keep up the good work
Thank you!
I believe that scaling is subject to specific aspects, and powers only matter to push narratives, if for instance scarlet witch is the villain, she will lose in the end, or lesser characters will scale to her in a one on one, irrespective of any feats or powers shown, scaling only matters when they are the protagonist and not the antagonist essentially
It’s always never logical either.
absolutely not. objectivity is a thing in marvel. u can alter a character's powers to an extent but not the way u mentioned.
Dr. Strange spell removed Peter Parker completely from my Civil War Blue Ray disc !!!
I had no idea about how op strange was before i watched infinity war. It's awesome that all powerhouses of mcu (except hulk) got to shine in the film. Thor shifting the tide of the battle in Wakanda, strange vs thanos, wanda holding back thanks and destroying mindstone..... Future films would surely pay homage to dr strange
One imagines that in the 14,000,605 times that Dr. Strange looked into the future for every possible scenario for End Game, that he got in a lot of Wizardry practice.
And in Multiverse of Madness he will only get stronger.
For sure!
@@KeyIssues you need to improve your scaling mcu has planetary to star level feats
Mcu has light speed scaling to mftl
@@KeyIssues the space stone has infinite power
And the reality stone can effect
While I loved this video I think you overlooked a huge contender for having as much power as strange. I am of course referring to Drax drawing a finger across his throat. Here he clearly shows insane speed with his decisive slice in a sideways motion across his throat as well as a lot of durability, as his throat is not sore after he does this. Of course I would be remiss to discount the great power it holds as it allows him to kill others in another dimension not mentioned in this video: his “imagination”. Lastly, he holds great hacks powers with this as he strikes so much fear into those in the room that he shakes(as seen in the scene in which he learns this dreadful power in the first Guardians movie). While he did not survive the battle with thanos, this is only because he did not have the chance to fight him one on one as strange got in the way. Like fingers making a snapping motion would be more powerful than drawing a line with his finger across his neck. Again, thanks for the video, but ignoring such a blatant challenger to Strange leaves me wondering the validity of it.
So dr.stranger is a Bethesda character, rising to the top and becoming the leader of the guild(sorcerer supreme) after a couple quest(years) while those who studied for most of their life’s must stand aside and respect him
I feel like doctor strange power level will be affected by what the writers do with the vishanti but I do think scarlet witch will be more powerful because it seems like marvel is setting up some house of m level event with her .
And......the feminist politics in most current movies. Women must be shown to overpower men even when it shouldnt apply.
@@brianlogan4243 go away
Wanda will have to get her own movie to beat Dr. Strange. In the MCU, the star of the movie always wins. In Civil War.. Captain America beats Iron Man. In No Way Home, Spider-Man beats Dr. Strange. In Thor Ragnarok, Thor beats Hulk. See the pattern? The star of the movie always wins in the MCU. So in Doctor Strange 2, Wanda will lose to Dr. Strange if she is the villian because it's his movie.
@@PaulClipMaster Excellant point! Except Avengers Infinity War should have been called the Thanos quest
@@brianlogan4243 that's not feminism its just story telling and adapting a character to be comic accurate .
Thanos should consider himself lucky strange had to be written out of the endgame fight by holding back the water. With no stones strange would wipe the floor with him
Yep just teleport him to oblivion
The man currently carrying the MCU
Would love to see a video on Strange Supreme. He's shown some overpowered feats during What If
Oh shit. Strange divided by 0 in the dark dimension. He broke the multiverse in his first movie and we didn't even realize it.
I’ve been waiting for this for YEARS.
It’s here! Hope it delivered
Thanks for making videos for people on RUclips it means a lot to me
I will always pick Doctor Strange over Wanda 😌
ah I see, a person of culture 😌
Why not pick both? Magic users are awesome, personally these 2 are my favourite and i can't wait for MOM
@@assadarlingtoni We all know Wanda is going to leave , doesn't make sense of living her nowadays
First scene of Multi-verse of Madness...Running when he could have opened a portal straight to the book. Like c'mon man
He needs to be able to see where he’s portalling to
Can we get updated MCU character tier list? Feels like a lot has happened since the last one.
Yep!
Let's go!
@@KeyIssues wait do you seriously think that Bro Thor is stronger physically then Infinity war Thor 🤣. Bro Thor is more powerful because of Mjolnir, Infinity war Thor is faster and more agile and could beat the twin sword Thanos. You literally scaled a unfit Thor to his strength at his prime. The Russo brothers have contradicted themselves many times
@@1973Ganesh It's blatantly stated that he is and Thor has his best feats while fat. Nice argument, BOZO
@@KeyIssues Best feats when he was fat? What feats 🤣, getting slapped around by Thanos being slower then Cap and Iron-man 😂
When it comes to the whole Dr Strange vs Scarlet Witch and who’s more powerful there is a easy way to explain it (apologies for how long this is):
They are both more powerful than each other for different reasons.
Strange has more variety of spells and ‘powers’ thus more powerful.
Wanda has more inherent power and inherently powerful/destructive spells. She was even able to cast spells like a Probability Hex without knowing.
People refer to the statement from the Darkhold that the Scarlet Witch’s power surpasses the Sorcerer Supreme. But we don’t know if that refers to Strange precisely or the typical ability level of the Sorcerer Supreme.
But in Endgame, The Ancient One said that Strange would be the best of them, even her, and she drew extra power from the Dark Dimension, plus the powers she had as Sorcerer Supreme.
When people talk about fighting Thanos, it’s important to note that Wanda fought a Thanos with no Infinity Stones and could’ve killed him.
Where as Strange fought a Thanos with 4 Infinity Stones in a toe-to-toe / back and forth fight. He was fighting defensively in this moment so that Tony could rejoin the fight.
What’s interesting to remember as well is that Wanda as the Scarlet Witch has way more power than she did as Wanda from AOU through to Endgame.
She’s very new to her power and seemingly doesn’t have full control over her power or an understanding, although with her reading the Darkhold she may know more. But I imagine there will be checks and balances, like the more powerful she becomes, the stronger the influence Chthon may have over her?
Strange on the other hand is way more familiar with his abilities and has access to hundreds of books to further his power.
But Strange is more precise, experienced and skilled. He’s like a sniper. While Wanda is just angry and ‘spray & pray’ so she’s more like a Machine Gun.
But in a fight, power isn’t everything. Skill, strategy, tactics and intelligence are vital. That’s the whole Batman vs Superman premise.
So just because on the surface Wanda appears to be more powerful than Strange, doesn’t mean that Strange is completely outmatched by her or unable to beat her.
In the ‘Avengers Dissembled’ comic, Wanda was going crazy and Dr Strange was able to beat her/incapacitate her. So in the comics Dr Strange has displayed he can beat her even though she’s more powerful.
So I would say Wanda is more inherently powerful than Strange, Strange has more powers and abilities at his disposal.
Great analysis. id be interested tio see Wanda vs Dr Doom or better yet Ghost Rider.
It really depends. Like you said wanda is more like a machine gun while strange is like a sniper. I don’t see one as more powerful than the other. They’re both insanely powerful in different situations. If strange has the time stone I’d say that he is stronger but now that it is atomized I’d say they’re pretty even
well fucking said
@@j_m12341 but Strange has way more books, resources and objects to help him. And like I said, the nature of how his magic works, based on what we saw and were told in Doctor Strange, would imply that he could do anything if he knows the spell for it.
The difference is Strange has to be consciously aware of this spell and it’s workings, where as it looks like Wanda doesn’t necessarily need to.
Wanda currently just has the Darkhold. It’s a powerful book but it’s one of 1000s. Strange has way more.
I think it’s also important to mention that Wanda only has her Chaos Magic, what she learns from the Darkhold & Agatha’s (but even then it appears more like she absorbed a large majority of it and mystical wisdom).
There is no magic added by the Mind Stone. All the Mind Stone did was amplify her power and show her a vision of the future.
There is no Nexus Being magic. This whole Nexus Being thing hasn’t actually been confirmed. Marvel have not stated she is a Nexus Being, they just referenced it with the Nexus Drug advert in Wanda Vision. And even then, it’s not a form of magic.
And three of the magics you mentioned are all the same. Chaos Magic, Scarlet Witch Magic and Base Magic are the same magic.
Her Base Magic (from AOU to Endgame) is the powers and abilities she knows how to use consciously. It’s Chaos Magic but she isn’t aware of it, nor does she fully know how to use it.
The Magic she’s using as the Scarlet Witch is her Chaos Magic, just with her having more awareness of her using it, and it being more powerful.
This is a problem with watching peoples fan theories online and with constantly having them bombarded at you.
The best example I can think of is New Rockstars. Since WandaVision, they have began to talk about their theories and as if they are absolute fact, not an opinion or theory.
Or look at the Dark Energy theory, which sounds really cool, so well done to MT for thinking of it. But it’s a theory that’s been pitched as being concrete and absolute.
And then the causal viewer or fans of New Rockstars believe that it is the truth, then get disappointed when it isn’t. Look at the expectations of WandaVision. Those were fuelled by fan theories and references to comics.
But that is all they are: fan theories. They aren’t concrete or absolute fact.
New Rockstars aren’t the only one, but they’re the biggest and it isn’t all their fault. It is also the viewer who think that every word a person online says, when it comes to theories, is gospel truth.
@@j_m12341 I would say we don't know the extent of his abilities until the next movie. Comics I never include
You accurately portrayed doctor strange, but he's even more powerful than what you described. The black Priest "Dr. Strange", would laugh at a fully fed Galactus every time a universe died and was rebourn. Thats how powerful an experienced Dr. Strange is.
Good lord I’ve been waiting for this one for months now!
The nature of the mystic arts is Strange's weakness
You need to do gestures for a particular spell and if any one can restrain Strange from doing this the person wins the fight
I don’t think that...
That is why when I watch doctor strange 1, instantly became my fav mcu character.and the start of obsessing to benedict cumberbatch. So i watch sherlockwhich is his masterpiece a d most of his movie,,just amazing,,
Infinity Wars had me loving him before I even watched his movie. He’s definitely top 5 for me
Same!
Streets needed this expeditiously🙏
Agree
Doctor Strange: One of the most powerful MCU character at the moment
Spiderman: *GEOMETRY*
I think you should also include intellect as one of the factors to consider when ranking their powers. Doctor Strange has photographic memory: he masters knowledge very fast and with ease. Him studying the books in the Sanctum, no one knows the variety of spells he has up his sleeves.
I find it hilarious that Doctor Strange's cape has more of a personality/ more likable than Captain Marvel
No
@@TheDragon-v7d no it's true
In spiderman no way home he was so powefull, he could hold back the multiverse for a limited amount of time, thats incredilbe
Apparently he can just casually break open the multiverse with minimal effort and portal a massive army of people from around the universe to one spot. And that whole thing where he saw billions of futures. Idk he seems pretty majorly powerful, to the point the movies do sleep on it a little
17:14 I love how the tree is in the image
Have you done Quake, Jessica Jones or Ana Helstrom yet? I'd love to see how those MCU ladies fare against the heavier hitters. I already know Quake is gonna rank high since she can hold her own against Ghost Rider, and her very last feat in Agents of SHIELD was taking out an entire fleet of starships (a feat we've only seen Carol do as well).
"Carol" isn't Canon mcu and won't be returning cause brie Larson is a POS, but the mcu is trash anyways 🤣
@@TheDoomslayersDaddy wait Brie Larson is out of the mcu???
Stupid femanisim politics in MCU and overall Hollywood. Its likley no marvel MCU charcater could defeat Ghost Rider.
@@TheDoomslayersDaddy she was literally in shang chi lol
@@lordtachanka5512 no she is not out of the MCU she is getting a film called the marvels and she was also in shang chi
Pertaining to the mirror dimension "it's going to be positive energy no more negative energy when I look in the mirror at me I'm 5'8 and still growing!" 2003-2022.🙌 Terrill TC!
Great vid as always, keep up the great work.
Really appreciate it
If Strange had used the Crimson Bands when he cloned himself, he could have restrained Thanos long enough for the others to kill him then and there.
I have a really hard time believing the statement that thor was at his most powerfull in endgame like the writers said. Like he didnt even use much of his lightning only trying to fight thanos head on. He didnt even fly one single time in the final fight.
He moved the largest amount of cloud coverage we’ve ever seen in Endgame. So, the statement is accurate concerning feats
@@KeyIssues which did little to Thanos. Thor was a b*tch in endgame.
@@imsentinelprime9279 still at his strongest 😁
@@KeyIssues how?
@@imsentinelprime9279 yes, because Thanos > Thor. Lmao.
I watched you today first, and i love you.. man .
He’s the strongest avenger IMO. I don’t see anyone but maybe Thor getting the better of him….only because they share knowledge others don’t
Thor has more raw power but strange has crazy hax thor can’t do much about
@@condawg5984 yup if Thor catches him off guard he dead, but if not Strange opens a portal if he throws Stormbreaker then just send it into Thor's head
Lol bro
@Mysterious too true
@@j_m12341 ahhhh yes scarlet witch 🧙♀️ she’s definitely top 2
6 minutes in and I’m already knowing this is a Great video!
Amazing job!!
the tsar bomba is actually only 57 megatons so the power stone is even more impressive
I really hope the battles in Mutliverse of Madness are a amazing as the fight on Titan. I want to see a bunch of weird spells and effects, I'm super excited for the movie.
I dont understand how thor is apparently at his strongest during endgame. He's been severely depressed for 5 years and spent all his time drinking. How the heck is he 'better than ever'. Makes 0 sense
yeah the russo bros say endgame thor is his strongest, but infinity war thor seems so much stronger
Asgardian physiology is not the same as a humans. Volstagg is very far and one of Asgard’s greatest warriors. Odin is old as fuck and still the strongest while he’s alive.
@@KeyIssues ik that the older asgardians get the stronger they get, but endgame thor seemed a mess.
You really should've made this video a month ago. So, that way, you can fully include his feats in _Multiverse of Madness._
What if Doctor Strange reads the darkhold, how powerful would he be if he could control all the dark spells too?
reading these comments after watching multiverse of madness
I hope MCU makes Dr Strange the most powerful character in the upcoming movies
People don't know that Strange is proficient in almost all magic (even chaos magic which Wanda has) so if he were to go head to head in a fight strange would win. People will argue that Wanda can manipulate reality but strange literally almost broke the multiverse. I believe that that's a big one up for reality manipulation with in the borders of a town.
He didn't break Multiverse by choice that was a mistake in his spell.. (because of Peter's intervention) which was a dangerous spell he was not ready to use which is why Wong told him not to do. 😂
Wanda can break the multiverse without any use of spells cuz she's a nexus being.. the universal time flow depends upon her actions.
@@Azarath_Metrion_Zinthos except when we see her she just screams and had no control over breaking reality until she does it in fact she has little control until the end of that series. Not only this but it doesn't disprove the point made. Strange doing it by accident still is him breaking the multiverse also if Peter hadn't intervened then he would have been able to cast the spell no problem. So you just stated that Strange can do powerful spells with no problem if not asked to change them multiple times mid-casting. As Strange stated "we have used it for less". Also I was talking strictly movies not comics so movies Wanda hasn't become a Nexus being yet. Now if we look at comics we can see Strange has become the equivalent to a god before. If we also look at the in comics stats listed on the marvel website we see that strange matches her in energy, fight skill, and strength but out ranks her in speed durability and intelligence which means he would be more powerful.
Didn't aged well
I cannot stress enough how desperate I am for Doctor Strange 2, it will have my fav characters in the MCU and probably the most powerful, Wanda and Strange. It goes without saying that I love magic haha.
when can you make more how powerful jedi and sith characters you can do it
I feel like I’m having a stroke reading this.
Yeah I will eventually. Been thinking about it recently
@@ReIigionlsForIdiots he probably knows more languages than you
We all had such high hopes for dr strange in multiverse of maddness and that movie completely broke my heart. They made strange a running shit instead of most powerful being that he was supposed to be💔
I swear out of all MCU characters Strange and Wanda are the 2 characters whose powers I would want the most but obviously I would go with Wanda due to her feats and agatha saying she's more powerful and that Wanda doesn't need incantations or hand gestures to cast a spell while when stephen was unable to talk or restrained he couldn't use his magic I mean he was trapped in the mirror world by peter in no way home and was only able to escape because NED opened a sling ring portal. But besides Wanda strange would be my number 2 in whose powers would I rather have.
Why would u want chaotic, emotion fueled powers that you can’t really control, and cause other pain?
@@TheIcemanthomas because if it makes you feel temporarily more supreme than anything or anyone else; wouldn’t you? 💁🏼
actually Agatha said SW is more powerful than the Sorcerer Supreme which is currently WONG. And we all know Ancient One stated that Dr Strange is meant to be the BEST of all Sorcerer Supreme (past, current, & future obv). Imo that statement by Agatha was meant to purposely confuse fans and got even more mindblowing as it was revealed that Wong is actually the current SS
Dr strange is such a dope character to see in a movie it’s like inception meets magic
Can summon portals that when shut down sever anything between them.
Never uses it to cut off the glove arm of the purple boy.
Know why he didn’t? Plot.
@@JC3178 same reason everyone in the MCU scales to Mach 100 being able to react to a binary catpn marvel.
Fking stupid and wastes the hype of her one real flashy power.
The strangest, pun definitely intended, thing about the Dr Stange movies is since his main enemies are also some of the strongest in the universe its hard to judge how powerful everyone really is.
the fact that strange is THIS strong and wong is the sorcerer supreme and once wanda fully becomes the scarlet witch she will surpass both of them. The magic in the mcu is getting insane i cant wait to see all three in multiverse of madness
I agree with your entire video. This is something that I rarely do. Thank you flushing out the first movie. Loved it.🌹
its soooo BS how they just made him lose against peter in the mirror dimension.....
Yes peter is a prodigy and genius but defeating strange in the mirror dimension with "geometry" ???? thats just bad writing.
And now everyone says "dr strange's weakness is math" or " dr strange is weak to strictly math based opponents" like wtf is that even supposed to mean???? are yall serious?
I think most people understand that Strange could easily beat Spider-Man without holding back
Glad I zoned out for the first 3 minutes bc the video hadnt even started yet lmao
Well apparently he is not capable of getting a box off Spiderman because... plot.
Yea...terrible writing
Yes I've been looking for videos that was power scale the MCU
Question, if the power stone can destroy a planet and we see the power stone pressed into thors head in the beginning of infinity war wouldnt that mean that thors durabilty scales to the powerstone? Great vid btw.
I think Thanos was only using a fraction of the power stone's power to slowly kill Thor, to mess with them. If he wanted to obliterate him, he would of been able to instantly.
He was using Thor as leverage against Loki in order to get him to summon the tesseract
@@dylanholding98 How would Thanos be able to control the power output of the stone without the gaunlet?
We really haven't seen much from him in MCU. He used the Time Stone in order to bargain his way out of the situation in the first film. He lost to Maw and Thanos in IW. He was subdued by Spiderman in No Way Home. He was only a nuisance to Scarlett Witch in the second movie.
He hasn't won any battle he's been in.
I was wondering when'd you would do a Dr Strange power scaling
This is some great content!!! congrats!!
You’re doing one for spiderman? He definitely has new feats after no way home
When the movie is out on blu ray
17:15 LMAO the tree
Dr strange 2 better show us some of his powers
very good video i love the mcu incarnation of Benedict Cumberbatch even more than Tony Stark
Yay power scaling!!!!!!
Hell ya
Intro music coming like 'movie recapped here'
Do you think Strange is equal, less, or more powerful then the post-Westview Scarlet Witch?
I’m going to simple it down to her Magic is stronger but he’s just more skilled
Less definitely.
@@swerzye4472 Wym?
While he is Sorcerer Supreme, he still often has to ask for boons from other deities for spells.
Wanda is powered directly by Cthon as she is an Avatar of Cthon and a Nexus being.
The MCU will Nerf her but at this moment, with the Darkhold; she is a multiversal threat.
The closest version to that of Strange that we've seen is Strange Supreme from What-If.
I have firm belief that the 'evil' strange from the next movie is either
Strange as a disciple of Dormammu or Nightmare really messing with Strange's mind.
@@LordofSyn well technically he’s not sorcerer supreme yet.
I thought evil dr strange was lady Loki, i need to watch it again.
Scarlet witch being stronger than the SS means nothing now since Wong is the SS and now that Strange isn't the SS he can become stronger than the Witch
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Great video. I'd love to see a "How powerful are the Guardians of the Galaxy."
I think now No Way Home is out it brings into question.
Was the Scarlet Witch being stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme refering to strange or Wong.
Wong has been the sorcerer supreme since the blip started and is still the sorcerer supreme as of current mcu time.
We know strange is stronger than Wong so
Since scarlet witch and sorcerer supreme are both titles, i think that no matter who is sorcerer supreme, the scarlet witch will always be more powerful
Removing the plots to make the movie interesting, doctor strange is really OP
Breaking the speed formula does not mean that the speed itself is imesurable, it's not absolute considering neither time or space is. Einsteins velocity addition showcases this quite well using reference frames and the speed of light, which we know exists in the dark dimension, otherwise there would be no light.
His mind is his greatest power.
Could you powerscale loki?
Can't wait to see him in multiverse of madness
thor's hair is the strongest of all
chang my mind
Just watch the video lmao
*I like it when a commentarian understands science.*
Your speed scaling is still way off. Maximum flying travel speed is not the same as combat speed. If they were going that fast, why is a normal human like Peter Quill able to function at all in combat with them?
Friend, buddy, pal, that’s how scaling works. You have to make these concessions for the universe to make sense. In the comics a “normal human” like Batman or Black Widow can react faster than light. It’s not that serious. Also, Peter is a half celestial 😘
@@KeyIssues genuine question, if he were a half celestial would he have slightly enhanced abilities before the bug bites him?
@@r.l.mcdermid6034 He meant Peter Quill (Star Lord).
Strange is pretty tough, but not quite Sun Wukong level…. ;)
Why does he have the eye of agamotto if the time stone is no longer there?
Still a powerful relic
Im pretty sure it's still a relic that used to host the time stone, but it still has magic probably
THE DRIP 🥵
I think they will Address that in the new movie it would be cool if it can channel or contain certain things like how it does in the comics
@@KeyIssues Sheesh
He's good dude to help Peter Parker erasing whole world's memories of his secret identity Spider-Man.