the rigidizer is to bind the fibers together for 2 reasons. 1: to make applying the refractory mortar or cement easier to apply so the blanket doesn't shed when applying and 2, when there's cracks, you have less fiber ejection. also, the paintbrush is the best idea because as you apply, you can tamp with the end to get the mortar into all the nooks and crannies and slap with the side of the bristles, to embed the mix deeper into your blanket and get a better bond (no delamination) from layer to layer as well as getting rid of any air bubbles or voids that cause cracks or spalling. from there, lots of thin layers prevents cracking since bumps and ridges have different rates of expansion and contraction causing cracks in the future. best practice for rigidizer, use a spray bottle, press (don't rub) the blanket on both sides and thoroughly embed your blanket so when it dries, the blanket will install easier and not sag as much when you apply your satanite or whatever, giving you more working room inside your forge. want to keep your lungs safe and do less maintenance? go full ocd and take the time to get it right the first time and you won't have to spend twice as long and three times a s much fixing what never should have been broke in the first damn place. time is money and i'd rather spend my time moving metal.
There's so much you learn Andrew that you tell us that we would never have learned, and like you said, we take it upon ourselves to do what we do. So if it's our fault it's not on you , love you bro
Oh my....now we have to add "Ye Ole Smithy" to your extensive repertoire of talents👍👍👍. Great info I never realized had to be done. I used to be a "Forged In Fire" junkie LOL (I love that show!) Anxious to see you in action and what you create.💜💜💜
Got me a forge. Added rigidizer first. Applying first cement coat today. I’d think rigidizer is a must do. I got the Vevor brand. Thanks for the vid :)
TKCL, With your talent, you could have made an old fashion forge out of an old turkey fryer burner, firebricks and some metal plates welded around firebrick to hold it. It works, I've seen it RUclips.
Just a quick bit of advice that an old blacksmith gave me: You're gonna want a lot less wrist movement when you hammer. Swing from the shoulder as much as possible, or you may end up doing damage to the tendons in your wrist.
That was very interesting Andrew. I saw that you told us the Ruger had been treated at the vet? Di he get bitten by something? Thank you Ed in Partlow Virginia
i am so confused cause the official vevor website, a customer had a question about this and, vevor replied and said their cotton insulation doesn't have carcinogens or harmful substances, i still don't know if i trust that. although i don't know why they would say that without being sure of it cause if it ended up hurting someone they could get sued pretty badly.
Should of called the seller and asked them they would have told you don't do anything leave it alone and use. What you did will not hurt it but it will last less then bare rock wool
@nicholas4839 that is NOT rock wool, it's Kao wool and as dangerous as asbestos. Rockwool looks completely different, it's for homes, not high heat applications.
Sorry I meant refractory wool it is safe that is why they don't coat it when they sell it. You will add more insulation but that's about all you did it reduce your working space more but beyond that there's no side effects of using refractory cement to seal refractory wool
It grinds my gears hearing you call the mixture “cement” It makes me think you don’t know what you are talking about. “Refractory Cement “ is the ingredient you mix with water, the resulting product is called “plaster”. Its the same like you would bake bread and instead calling it bread ,to call it :flour. Not once, but multiple times.
@@benjaminsagauI appreciate and take information from everything and everyone . Over the years I’ve learned that some people have a lot of good information. But they are not that great at sharing information without sounding condescending . I found with a little practice and thought. You can decimate your thoughts without being unintentionally condescending. I’m speaking from experience. Good luck to all.😎
@@RUredE2go in Europe, we tend to be straight to the point without sugarcoating. In USA you need to talk with people as they are made out of nitroglycerin (the unstable form of TNT🧨 ) I find it quite shallow to do that. Does that sound condescending? Or is it wrong to be honest nowadays?
the rigidizer is to bind the fibers together for 2 reasons. 1: to make applying the refractory mortar or cement easier to apply so the blanket doesn't shed when applying and 2, when there's cracks, you have less fiber ejection. also, the paintbrush is the best idea because as you apply, you can tamp with the end to get the mortar into all the nooks and crannies and slap with the side of the bristles, to embed the mix deeper into your blanket and get a better bond (no delamination) from layer to layer as well as getting rid of any air bubbles or voids that cause cracks or spalling. from there, lots of thin layers prevents cracking since bumps and ridges have different rates of expansion and contraction causing cracks in the future. best practice for rigidizer, use a spray bottle, press (don't rub) the blanket on both sides and thoroughly embed your blanket so when it dries, the blanket will install easier and not sag as much when you apply your satanite or whatever, giving you more working room inside your forge. want to keep your lungs safe and do less maintenance? go full ocd and take the time to get it right the first time and you won't have to spend twice as long and three times a s much fixing what never should have been broke in the first damn place. time is money and i'd rather spend my time moving metal.
There's so much you learn Andrew that you tell us that we would never have learned, and like you said, we take it upon ourselves to do what we do. So if it's our fault it's not on you , love you bro
Totally agree!
Thank you both
Oh my....now we have to add "Ye Ole Smithy" to your extensive repertoire of talents👍👍👍. Great info I never realized had to be done. I used to be a "Forged In Fire" junkie LOL (I love that show!) Anxious to see you in action and what you create.💜💜💜
Thank you for watching
Got me a forge. Added rigidizer first. Applying first cement coat today. I’d think rigidizer is a must do. I got the Vevor brand. Thanks for the vid :)
Thank you for the information Andrew. Did not know about adding the material before using.
Look at You, blacksmith ⚒️🔥💪
Far from it lol
Thanks for the video. What is that stand you're using to hold the steel inside of the forge?
Called a roller stand, can be bought at Lowes or Home Depot.
TKCL, With your talent, you could have made an old fashion forge out of an old turkey fryer burner, firebricks and some metal plates welded around firebrick to hold it. It works, I've seen it RUclips.
Amazing video thankyou!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good day to all
Good afternoon
Great video. Love the content. 😊
Just a quick bit of advice that an old blacksmith gave me: You're gonna want a lot less wrist movement when you hammer.
Swing from the shoulder as much as possible, or you may end up doing damage to the tendons in your wrist.
Hey, Mr. Thinker Tinkerer! Great content!
Hey, thanks!
hi there interesting , best to all john
That was very interesting Andrew. I saw that you told us the Ruger had been treated at the vet? Di he get bitten by something? Thank you Ed in Partlow Virginia
He has some serious swelling in his reproductive area that required removal.
Lifetime learning:)))
Just curious, why wouldn't it come already coated and sealed?
No idea, almost none do.
What’s the device for?
Forging metal together or heating and bending metal
i am so confused cause the official vevor website, a customer had a question about this and, vevor replied and said their cotton insulation doesn't have carcinogens or harmful substances, i still don't know if i trust that. although i don't know why they would say that without being sure of it cause if it ended up hurting someone they could get sued pretty badly.
It's my understanding this is Kaowool (spelling) and should always be covered.
2nd
You should NEVER do forge work in shorts and sneakers.
Yep, I addressed that in this video.
@@TKCL sorry, must have missed that when Amazon came to the door
That is rock wool and is not needed to anything You did they sell them ready to go the loose fibers burn off
Should of called the seller and asked them they would have told you don't do anything leave it alone and use. What you did will not hurt it but it will last less then bare rock wool
@nicholas4839 that is NOT rock wool, it's Kao wool and as dangerous as asbestos. Rockwool looks completely different, it's for homes, not high heat applications.
Sorry I meant refractory wool it is safe that is why they don't coat it when they sell it. You will add more insulation but that's about all you did it reduce your working space more but beyond that there's no side effects of using refractory cement to seal refractory wool
Kao wool is used in homemade forges not ones you buy for safety reasons
This is the first I'm hearing this, I've received so many warnings from people that all overseas cheap wool Kao wool.
First
It grinds my gears hearing you call the mixture “cement”
It makes me think you don’t know what you are talking about.
“Refractory Cement “ is the ingredient you mix with water, the resulting product is called “plaster”.
Its the same like you would bake bread and instead calling it bread ,to call it :flour.
Not once, but multiple times.
I'm so thankful I don't let things like that bother me to the point that it is bothering you.
@@TKCL I guess you are right, why bother to improve, “ignorance is bliss”
@@benjaminsagauI appreciate and take information from everything and everyone . Over the years I’ve learned that some people have a lot of good information. But they are not that great at sharing information without sounding condescending . I found with a little practice and thought. You can decimate your thoughts without being unintentionally condescending. I’m speaking from experience. Good luck to all.😎
@@RUredE2go in Europe, we tend to be straight to the point without sugarcoating. In USA you need to talk with people as they are made out of nitroglycerin (the unstable form of TNT🧨 )
I find it quite shallow to do that.
Does that sound condescending? Or is it wrong to be honest nowadays?