Yamaha R7 Review: The Perfect Middleweight Sportsbike?
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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That new Hornet will eat these cp2 engine bikes for breakfast
day 3398 of waiting for the R9...
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agreed
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It’s coming but it’s going to be like a full fairing XSR 900. Like a retro sportbike.
@@thevtadventure1062 I hope you're going on more than that one badly photoshopped mockup by a japanese magazine
Has a r7 owner this is the best description so far!!!
Yamaha have got it right, create the perfect mid weight engine and share it across various platforms. I’m a big fan of the new XSR700, but younger riders may prefer the MT07 or R7, adventure riders the Tenere. Nice work by them.
Yea also tracer series is there
@@bonjovi1354 Yes, the Tracer 7 is brilliant compromise between city, twisty riding and touring.
Aprilia quality scares me. I did sit on an RS660 and I thought it was a very aggressive riding position for my taste. Amazing what good value you get from Yamaha on this bike. It definitely looks the part.
the R7‘s riding position is even more aggressive, my friend got an rs660 and i got an R7, but im loveing it. Only the R6 is more agressive, seating position wise.
Compare this to the CBR650R please
I have a Tracer 7 and i must agree with people complaining about the engine. It's great on the mid revs, but when you take it to high revs it feels... disapointing. It has nothing more to give you on the high revs.
The problem it's not the lack of power. I have an old CBF 500 with 56hp and it feels great on the high revs. Since it doesn't have much on the mid revs, when you take it to high revs it gives you a nice surprise. You can make her scream. She asks for it! 😁
In my opinion that's how a sportsbike should work. Up there, on the high revs, screaming on the red line!
You dont need much power for the road, true (I have ridden a Diavel and that's too much power). But you need the top revs for a screaming adrenaline sportsbike experience.
I think a R7 set up like a tuono would be cool so your more comfortable but also have the wind protection.
that would be cool and look much better, but it also means that Yamaha desingers would have to pull their heads out if their own asses, which won't happen 😅
So you want an RS660?
@@bcab7955 yup ... He just doesn't want the Aprilia hassle
That's kind of what the Tracer is supposed to be but it looks boring so most people don't notice it.
@@Motoboo_Marine very underrated those who knows loves those or its like 2nd versys
Looking forward to a comparison between the R7 and Rs660
Im tired of hearing people saying that the r7 is a slow bike but they cant even push it to half of its potential. I guess people just like riding in a straight line…. Kinda stupid because a bike is more thrilling around corners and the r7 is definitely a fun ass bike.
Nice one Bob 👍
as someone who started on an R15, is currently on an R3, and is looking to move up to a supersport next (but mostly still for commuting), this bike *should* be perfect- but its just impossible for me to justify the price compared to 2ndhand 600 supersports, even ones that are nearly new. I guess that's more to do with new bike prices at the moment anyway though.
Sv650s? Or are they expensive in your region? In the states you can pick up a used one for sub 2500$
@@nth842 he's talking about used R6, CBR600RR etc. .... but in my opinion they arent really comparable. 600cc 4cyl with 120hp is goina be fun on wide open roads but not so much in town and in the twisties
What about honda cbr650r?
@@anirbanghosh5066 thats a moderate sports tourer ... he wants a sport bike 😉
@@kloppskalli He brought up the price of the r7 being too high to justify. An sv650 is over double the power of an R3.... and at least in the states usually goes for around the same price as an R3 when comparing both bikes used.
unless you are talking about a touring bike, i could care less about the tech. rpm and speed. i would like a fuel gauge as my bike only tells me when i am close to empty.
Can you please correct a popular misconception - USD forks are heavier than right way up forks and the unsprung mass is much higher
Compare a pair of aluminium sliders, wheel spindle and wheel complete with discs and calipers (right way up) vs USD weight being as with right way up forks but with the addition of the two steel stanchions. Early Fireblades had right way up forks because the engineering team were completely focused on weight reduction rather than fashion statements.
Looks good😊
Need need to make an R9 and put the MT-09 engine in it. Sounds sooo good and its torque.
I think for my next bike I really want the new triumph street triple RS. If Yamaha comes out with an R9, that might persuade me towards the super-sportier fairings and more aggressive riding position. I just don’t like the styling of the MT series. And the street triple blows the doors off the cp2 engines while still being very useable on the street.
R9 great idea but Yamaha will put in shit suspension. Get the Triumph.
Why do you ride with the mirrors tucked in ? I've noticed that on a few of your videos.
My dream bike
I want to ask r7 got fast high temperature at the traffic same as r6?I know both arent bikes for the city.
Great vid, let's see what Honda bring out now they have the cb750 Hornet engine to play with, a new baby blade, let's hope so
Hope so too!
Waiting....because, despite riding a Fireblade for 4 years, I still miss my RD350. And British Engineering is a bad deal for buyers, even though influencers who try them for free, might rave about British brands - cars or bikes.
What’s with folding the mirrors in?
i would love for my first bike to be a sport bike like the r7 but im absolutely torn between a few of them. Every time i lean twards one of them i find something in it that turns me off. ninja 650 vs r7 vs honda cbr650r the eternal battle between these 3 is real.
Appreciate your review MotoBob, what I think about the R7 is absolute win² for my pocket money. Everything is just checked out on the specs, definitely appealing to be sporty but yet gives a friendly approach for newer riders while still maintaining to be aggressive on track. Love the video, now I'm gonna show my dad how this bike is really that good
it's not really a friendly approach for newer riders. it's an absolute animal really in those terms.
@@chrishart8548 goddamn
they have terrible budget suspension, like from CF, no better.
Informative
I want one so much, but the potential for an R9 keeps me indecisive
Hopefully it happens! Would be a heck of a bike
I don't know why everyone Is saying they want an R9. I went from an R3 to and R7 and it was a noticeable difference. I owned the R3 for 15,000kms. The R7 is so fun as you can ring it out and heaps of torque. Its perfect for country roads and city riding. I took it to track and it was a blast coming out of corners. The R9 will need to be tamed and it will be a bit too much as you'll need a bit of room to open it up. People need to get some sense into their head. The R7 is a bike made from common sense. The R9 doesnt make sense tbh. Horsepower and top speed is nothing. Unless you are going for land speed records, go and get an R1 lmao
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I have a Yamaha FZ6R do you think this is a good upgrade or not much of a change?
yes and no. yes the MT-07R will be a upgrade definitively. but it will not be worth the money. you are going to be experienced enough to ride something bigger. why sacrifice comfort for something that can't even deliver what a sport bike is suppose to deliver. better to just get the naked instead :) (there is no new R7 it's just a MT-07R with R7 badges just like how your fz is a fz6R because of the full fairing)
Do a R7 vs RS660 vid
I love this 🚲
Yamaha have been nailing it in the last decade.
Yes Yamaha and Kawasaki are the only 2 options now
It took bike manufacturers long enough to came to their senses and start making 750's again the perfect weight size power Suzuki tried to keep the 750 alive. I know some big D in WSB was cheating but ever since racing started it was cc against cc not increasing your cc because you had less Cylinders.
you have to increase the cc if you have less cylinders
Yeah they did make 4 Cylinders bikes so they had the technology and why are they not doing that now and not applied it to moto gp?
This is a 650 class my man
ZX6R is the killer comparo. Here in the states it's only a few hundred more.
Well , Sv650 parallel twin is coming . I think it's going kill it in terms of feel, reliability and all the mods that are already available.
uhm a new engine so what mods are available for it?
@@tubejorrit i mean the chassis upgrades like adjustable suspension, brakes ,exhaust system end cans .
@@TechReviewInsider it will be a complete new bike so I don't think anything from the old sv is going to fit the new one.
😆 you have no clue what you're talking about
@@boris2997 Yeah Borios thanks for the support
Great looking bike but that's where it ends. I guess the R7 stands for 70 HP?
It's unfortunate the ergos are set up for track, but this thing isn't really that great there because it's just got no top end...
RS660 would be my choice
Where I live, walking out of a dealership with an rs660 is only about $800 more than the r7, so the Yamaha is a bit of a tough sell.
Same for me. Dealers in my area put high fees on Yamahas and I was able to get an rs660 for basically msrp plus tax. 2k miles in and no problems whatsoever, absolutely love the thing
@@Norepinefrain and the Aprilia comes with top end power instead of all midrange.
plus a proper gearbox that doesn't try to convince you to take the car more often
@@kloppskalli The gearbox might not be needed to convince to take the car, since the bike will be on the dealership plenty of time :)
My contention has always been that very, very, very few people can handle more than130hp ! I've yet to be proved wrong .....
You're not wrong.. on paper 200hp sounds great..but that's at the crank. Also companies limits the throttle ,so twisting 100% only gives you 80% unless you flash the ECU.You need rider aides to make the power usable..at this point are you even riding the bike??? .the bike I'm on makes 126 rwhp.no rider aides.its perfect for me..fast enough..99% of the time you're going under 90 mph,there's always traffic, weather can change in a heartbeat.. this R7 can go 0-60 in under 4 secs which is pretty fast..sure it loses steam once you hit 100..for under 10 grand I think its a great bike regardless..but hey everybody wanna go 186 I guess..lol. stay safe
I love the look of this bike, but I think the RS660 is probably worth the extra £2k
Hopefully the R9 comes out before I’m looking to buy a middleweight sportsbike next year.
The RS660 is 10k??? Jesus christ, few K more and you can have a MT 10
@@P.M_M Different strokes.
Insurance is a pretty big consideration for me at the moment with only 1 years experience and 3 points. I’d buy an MV F3 if it wasn’t an issue.
Yeah and what about the service costs😂Aprilia is quite costly. That's why I got the R7 because its simple and isn't shoved with electronics. If something goes wrong on the aprilia, you are screwed and have to spend an arm n leg to get a error code removed by a dealer. The R7 just has abs and its more than enough for the road
@@AcatGaming Yep, pros and cons to both.
just get an MT09, much better engine for pretty much the same money or less if you go for a used one. the new ones even have lean sensitive ABS which is a big safety plus unless you are a professional road racer..
Nice 😊
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Yamaha did not need to make the ergonomics set up the same as a bike that is only for track use, not for daily use. Any honest review where the rider gets on a highway for 30 minutes or more comes back to say they have pain in wrists, back and legs. While Yamaha made the bike look the part of a faux race superbike, it skimped on the minimum power to emulate a sporty motorbike (~90 hp-120hp). Its not "a pretty entertaining ride" unless this is your 2nd bike after Honda Grom or a moped. The Aprilia RS660 was a much better design for a sporty bike also comfortable for everyday use . Unfortunately it also has Italian reliability
Would you say that this is the spiritual successor to say an SV650S? I've been trying to find a suitable hoon machine that will tickle my danglies better than my 4C8R1. I've also got a Fazer thou in the garage for winter duties and both are mind numbingly capable for the road. I'd say the R1 is still too much for me for the track too, but I've had her the best part of 8 years.
My best two bikes I've had for B roads were probably my ZXR250C and CBR500R. What would you say this would relate to if we're talking late 90's, early 00's bikes; the 400cc grey imports of our youth but with more of everything for useability?
Yeah not sure if you saw my recent video but I just picked up a used SV650S - it's very similar to the R7 in many ways. Zero rider aids, 70ish hp, v-twin/270 twin sound, nice sporty riding position. But the R7 definitely has much better brakes, much better suspension, and you're quite a bit higher on the seat which gets you up and over the bars. The SV650S is a little more chilled and road-biased, the R7 is great on the road but also feels like it would work well on track. A bit more aggressive.
@@motobob I do like supersport ergonomics, which is why I tended to prefer riding the R1 instead of the Fazer. Exactly the same sentiments you echoed on the Ninja 650.
Reminds me of when I fitted chinese clip ons for the CBR500 because the over the yoke OEM "clip ons" were more sit up and beg renthals in terms of feel.
How can they rip off the R7 !? Such an iconic bike in WSB back in the day.
A twin in a "sportsbike" !? I'll pass
Hi Bob, I think they really should have either put an inline four in, or called it something different. Mainly due to the iconic and rare original R7, but also it the name suggests full on sport bike, but it obviously is not. Maybe MT-07r, or MT7r or something would have been a better name for it. Great bike regardless!
there's plenty of young customers who have ever seen a 750 4cyl sports bike in the flesh. So they don't really mind plus they're happy to ride an R7 which sounds cooler than MT-R..
@@kloppskalli Not even a Gixxer 750, plenty of those still about 😎 I understand what you're saying though.
It's also kind of disrespectful to the owners of the original, as it must affect the price of them still to some extent.
No one had a problem with the R3 and it's definitely more of a full on sports bike than the R3.
maybe a middleweight street fighter disguised as a sportbike
I get the lower power levels, but I don't get the point of a sport bike with a twin. For me, a sport bike has got to have that 4 cyl howl.
ain't no one buy those that is why that market died
Great vid… at 24.5 BHP I can access 100% of my Himalayan’s power and still be legal. 😂
Rode the new Hunter 350 yesterday and it's even more keep-your-license friendly :)
not in a 20 limit or 30 or 40 probably. unless it's a steep hill.
@@motobob …yep, 20bhp, but you use all of it. I did a lands end to John o Groats in July with Nathan Millward (no cities, no motorways, just the best roads), and he hussled the RE Scram that he was on, or maybe it just seemed that way on my overloaded Himalayan. 😂 There’s definitely something to be said for using the whole bike.
it is only 70hp it don't need no tech, abs is fine
Beautiful machine. One day
For a R7 to be a decent bike you need fork cartridges plus shock. If not, they are crap.
cbr 650r would be its main competitor
Yes but I feel like it might be on its way out pretty soon with the new 750 twin coming...
No the Aprilia 660 is thr perfect middleweight imo.
Only problem with them is they blowing up like crazy and I don't mean in a good way
@@Suisk8
Yeah like broken conrods
@@JohnSmith-ef8nr among other failures!
@@JohnSmith-ef8nr but the con rod is a huge issue only to be maybe warranty replaced with the same engine with the same parts inside that are likely to fail soon again.. 😔
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Just need 1 Motor cycle that can do everything.. Not this one.
I have a bmw f800gs its close to working as the only bike.
Yamaha ha ha ha. I'm waiting on the Hornet.
Get an rs660..
i cannot imagine a sports bike with a clunky gearbox like my Tenere 700. its terrible. upshifs hurt my foot if i dont wear boots 🙄
Hope the assist/slipper clutch is an indication that perhaps they made other revisions knowing how important shift feel is on a sport bike. I purchased one yesterday; pick it up on Monday. If it is crap, I'll ride it to their other dealership and trade it for a ZX-6R.
okay.. yea i agree on everything you said about this bike .. but im sorry i dont like it ..
it just feels so slow
i was expecting more horsepower than the previews YAMAHa R6 but .. anyways .
no thanks i dont like it
less tech the better
Buy a used r6
Shame about the budget suspension, shame Yamaha. They say on their website R1 DNA what a load on BS. Never believe anything Yamaha says, total blight on the brand.
I mean they use damper rod in the forks, my bicycle have better tech in the forks than that.
Calling the R7 a sport bike is like calling a trans woman a woman.... It's not, but we should not hurt it's feelings.... The las R7 had titanium parts inside the engine and was a legendary bike, this is a cheap "we need more profit", fuck the consumer..... R6 is where yamaha should have stuck with, we do not need any more 2 cylinder tractors.... But hey.... It's where the economy is going....
Uninspiring engine.
lol what?
@@eclipsegfxable it's dull AF. What don't you get?
@@kderules agreed
Yup it’s just as cack as the so called ninja 650 who wants be all cramped up and barely move with 65-70bhp lower displacement parallels have no place in bikes like this only work commuters 😂
I’m sorry but this is bs. It’s 100% inspiring. My R7 has helped me progress at a very fast rate. In the hands of a really good rider, the R7 can kill 600s in the corners.
The R7 does nothing for me. I'd go for an RS or Tuono 660.
Nah my ZX-6R will eat this alive and it’s still pretty good for the street torque wise.
the worst middleweight. it's just so unessasaraly slow. like throw atleast something in the 95ish+ hp range. why sacrifice all the discomfort of a sport bike but then not have the actual benefits of a sport bike that make you forget the negatives. jack of many trades master att none.
This is exactly why I got rid of my SV650S. It was just as uncomfortable as my GSX-R, just slow. I understand why people like the naked SV, but if I'm going to be pretzelled up in the sportbike riding position, it's gotta be fast.