Diamond Core Drilling - Tips to Make Diamonds Last
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2015
- Dry Diamond Core Drilling Soil Pipes & Flue Holes
Roger gives a few tips on using diamond cores to make holes for soil pipes and boiler flue and explains why some diamonds lose their cutting edge after a very short time.
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When you need to redrill a larger hole over a small one you can cut a disk out of plywood to the size of the smaller hole (use at least 2 layers of 18mm of hardwood plywood for thickness, don't use OSB!!), drill a center hole in the plywood disk, insert the disk in the hole in the wall and use it to center your larger sized diamond core bit. You only need it for the first 2 inches of drilling, after which you need to remove both the disk and the centering bit.
Great tip, thanks
Roger, whenever I’m searching for a video guide, it’s always a relief to find one of yours in the listings.. it means I can separate the wheat from the chaff and not waste time viewing someone doing it wrong / without explanation / doing it in America.
Keep up the good work!
Thank Adam
We are happy to see that our American audience is growing rapidly. We are planning a couple of visits soon.
@@SkillBuilderbring them round to our methods and vocab and you’ll single-handedly solve all these first-world RUclips problems 🤣🤣 cheers mate.
I really appreciate the time you take doing these videos. Great stuff. Many thanks.
Never commented before.. Been watching this guy for years and I never stop learning..so easy to watch..cheers Roger..
Really enjoy your videos Roger. Very informative and love your style.
This guy is so cool! I love these videos.
Awesome work, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
+Dylan Phillips
Thanks Dylan
good video!! keep them coming
Great video, cheers
Great advice, thanks
If doing a soil pipe I do a 150mm cut about an inch deep first and then fit a 110mm and cut through the wall. If a need to join or fit a 90 degree turn I can chip out to the 150 mm cut to create the clearance needed and keep the pipe tight to the wall. Cementing up the gap makes for a neat finish.
Good tip, thanks
Thanks, dude, cool tip!
Best site on the web. Keep it going as I've learnt tons! I'd be interested in your take on the best drills on the market now for large hole core drilling as there are so many. Are dedicated core drills really better or faster? and do you have any tips on cutting holes high up (i.e. for extractor fans) as I always seem to do my back in doing it from my ladder :/ ?
great video. To use diamond cores do you need a big powerful drill like yours or will a standard 650w drill do the trick?
Beautiful video
Thank you. Have a look at out other videos when you get the time and inclination.
Thankyou - very good advice. Best I have found.
Glad it was helpful!
Great - I have to drill a couple of 6 inch holes in my garage wall for ventilation. Will be looking to rent a proper core drill. Not sure the clutches on standard SDS+ drills are up to the job...
realy your videos thanks
The full monty for info and usage. Cheers
In and out! Good tip. :)
Hi mate ,
What's the best core drill 240v or 110v?
N which is model is best ?
Thanks
Can you put a link to the tools you were using? Drill bit, vacuum, drill, adapters, etc?
great vid roger, too many blokes don't know about dressing bits
loloolololololol Thanks. Diamonds are a boy's best friend.
good tip thanks
Thanks Andy
Skill Builder Hi Again
Is the drill a special one
I have 70 4 inch holes to drill thru 9inch brick wall. So any more tips for faster drilling is much appreciated as I'm only getting 4 or 5 done a day.
TY
I'm going to be renting one of these to bore a 7" hole through brick
Great to hear someone who knows what their talking about thanks for the advice paul Walsh
Probably an impossible question to answer but what's the chance of breaking out the face of the brickwork if I'm drilling from the inside-out (1500w SDS+ drill, 162mm diamond core, rotary drilling only. Can't drill outside-in because I really don't want to do it up a ladder). I note that Roger drilled a nice neat hole but what's the chance of a relative newbie doing so with much less professional gear???
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what's the model of the Dewalt?
Hey Rodger.
never used dry diamond cores are the any faster than tct core?
I usually core 2inch and 6 inch into 4 inch concrete blocks..
would like to know before I invest in new gear.
great videos btw. Enjoy them a lot. and toolstop are no1 for gear. excellent service.
TCT used to be cheaper than diamond cores but Spectrum and Mexco are now so cheap they are worth a go. The difference is that you get a smooth hole on the outside so if you are drilling from the inside out it matters.
Thanks Rog, next time I use a core drill I'll remove the centre bit
I learned more from this 6 min video then from watching 3 other 10-15min videos about diamond core drilling combined.
That is good to hear. We will learn from that. Keep it simple
Is that the D21570K or D21580K and how reliable is it?
I see the Hatton Garden robbers used a Hilti diamond core drill to get through the reinforced concrete wall. They left it behind so hopefully the tradesman they stole it from will get it back.
Skill Builder hahahaha yer in time it was a hilti dd350 wet core drill made for drilling concrete n steel
Great video, thank you. But what if you have a 240mm thick solid brick wall (Flemish bond) and only a 170mm deep core? Surely when you get to the end of the core you are stuck with a wad of brick that needs to be chiselled out, no?
That's what the core extension shaft is for.
Can i use SDS plus drill bit on a standard chuck ?
I purchased a 30mm Tungsten Carbide Hole Saw bit for making few holes in a cement plastered brick wall as part of a DIY project at home and it is a SDS plus drill bit and what i have is a pretty basic Hitachi hammer drill, so i wanted to know if this drill bit would be compatible with my drill. Also if I can use it, should a hole saw be used on hammer setting ?
Those tungsten carbide tipped hole saws are made to hammer on SDS and your percussion drill won't get the best out of it but it will do no harm. Stick it on hammer and have a go but keep pulliing it out and letting it cool down slightly because they are not made for high speeds and overheating they don't like. Some people spray them with a bit of water which helps but it makes a mess.
Also I forgot to add that I bought a complete set of ten diamond core bits up to 35mm for less than £10.00 on ebay. Straight out of China but they are brilliant. I will do a video on them soon If you run them wet they are great
Sex, If you can remember what that's like... Hahah
wouldn't a bit of 80 grit sand paper work ?
What happens if it's a cavity wall? I found when I went through the first layer and started on the second it would jam so frequently! to the point where it got stuck completely. Should I re-insert the pilot hole? Is it because the 2 holes are slightly misaligned?
You shouldn't have to reinsert the pilot hole. Slight misalignment could be the problem but it could also be a number of other issues. How powerful is your drill? - Ideally it should be around 1300/1400+ Watts. If the substrate you are drilling through is very damp then that can cause the core bit to continuously jam. Do you have a vacuum connected to the drill to remove the dust? Are you dry or wet core drilling? Have you hit a wall-tie?
Do you turn the drill onto hammer when you are using a diamond.. or are you always using just the drill. I think I was told that you only need to just use the hammer for making the pilot hole then when you have done that you just use the drill option. Thanks
That is right, don't use the hammer on the diamonds.
Perfect, thank you so much. So what would you use the drill/hammer part for ?..sorry if its self explanatory
Great tips there Roger. What I also tend to do is core drill almost all the way through then go through the other side so you don't have too much of a blowout on facing brick.
+Zed Man
Good idea. There was a nasty bit of breakout on that job.
Skill Builder great vid roger just wanted to know whats the best size core to buy for a boiler flue?
@@Razz60 117mm I'm sure you now already.
@@rayc1503 thanks
I need to drill a vertical blind hole in concrete to locate a pole. I have a 90mm x 480mm core drill. I would really like to go down at least 400mm. How do you extricate the concrete core? Any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks, Barry.
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Hi , I would keep taking the core out every ten seconds to make sure it doesn't bind up with dust because, once it does, it could be jammed in there for good.
Once you have reached the depth take the core drill out and put a rod or bar down through the pilot hole and break the core out. It needs to snap at the depth you drilled, assuming it is 400mmm deep, which is a lot for concrete.
When you are drilling walls you normally get a 100mm core out but in your case that won't happen.
I got caught out like that drilling through an engineering brick. I thought my diamond core bit was wrecked. I never knew until this day that it could be saved.
Tap the diamond segments up with a file job done
Any idea where the dust extraction kit comes from? Googling Dewalt gets me nothing.
I will try and track it down. It seems the DeWalt system is no longer there but I can't believe it has gone.
www.coredrillcity.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1_22_51&products_id=562&osCsid=addhsep0naf71o2k0p3ntfp1q3
This is the same bit of kit. I don't think DeWalt made it. You can actually buy it as part of a diamond core set from Screwfix for a lot less than buying it on its own.
@@SkillBuilder Very many thanks, I've discovered Mexco also make a kit though I can't vouch for
it...www.mexco.co.uk/Products/Diamond-Drilling-Dry-Core-Drill-Kits-X90-Grade/A10DCDKITEXT3 but you'll need to find a stockist.
Uh bit uh the old in and out, aye? I seem to remember that, mate.
very useful. a few times a year a need to drill a 5 inch hole through engineering/concrete (new build fireplaces). its always a pain and ive often reverted to stitch drilling, which makes me feel like a muppet. im sure my drill is un powered for the job and worry that a 5inch core drill is too big/dangerous. @skill builder how big can you go, before its dangerous. i once got a quote from a firm to wet drill a 9inch core. they wanted £400....
You can drill up to 5 inch but rent a dedicated machine with enough power and a decent clutch, any larger and you really need a rig that can bolt to the wall/floor for saftey.
Go fro m the outside so you dont blow the face of the brick off
I have a bit of metal to cut through inside the concrete that I'm drilling. Its just a vent pipe, the metal is only very thin about a millimeter or so. My question is will the diamond core bit get through that? anyone know?
If the metal is embedded in concrete then the diamond teeth won't snag on it. The diamond will cut through the metal with no trouble. It is only when it hits a bar suddenly that it knocks a tooth off. Take it easy let the diamond do the work and you will be fine.
thanks great video btw
'In and out like having sex, if you can remember what that's like' 😅
Now try that on some blue staffs class b’s as a diamond driller by trade even with our professional kit it’s no fun
Yes and Accrington Nori's. Hard for soft and soft for hard.
What about if i want to cut a new hole (because the current 110mm hole is 2 inches to the left of where it should be) just about 50mm to the side of a current hole. Is it possible to to this with a core drill ? becuase only one side of the core will be cutting into brick.
Yes but you will need a piece of plywood with a hole in it to position the core on the wall. Once it starts in the wall it will be fine
노가다 아저씨 말씀 정말 잘 하시네요!
“ it’s like having sex if you could remember what that’s like.” Actually , it’s been so long I don’t even remember.😂
Which size core drill for 110mm soil pipe? 110mm or 117mm or even 127mm?
Hi Neil
I made this mistake on my first every core drill. You need one that will take the collar of the bend or branch and to give yourself some wiggle room you need a 127mm bit. This allows a bit of deflection if you need to angle the pipe and elbow.
@@SkillBuilder Thanks for your rapid response and for the info. Really appreciate it. Love your channel. It’s always my go to for instructions when I have some diy to do. You always seem to have a tutorial for whatever job I have lined up. A true professional. Thank you 👍
My diamond core is jammed in and I can't get it out. It's in at full depth of core. Any ideas?
+ Peter
It can only be dust that is jamming it so you should be able to suck out the dust and tap it gently to free the dust.
If the wall is wet you need to run a fan heater or something on it for a few hours to dry that dust paste out. Jamming can be a problem hence my tip about pulling it out as you go. Let us know how you get on.
I was drilling the floor bringing in a new water main, had to go under the wall of house, I took out the adaptor and drilled through threaded hole in core with long drill to reach trench under wall, then used vacuum under core to suck out dust. What a job! Thanks for as vice mate
I feel for you Peter. I have done so many of those water mains under the foundation and they are never easy. A bit from outside a bit from in and there is always the last bit you can't get at.
Still you did it mate so chalk it up.
Use a pair of stillsons quicker than using a fan heater
I drill an inch or so inside then I finish drilling outside the house, less dust inside the this way.
No, I can’t remember what that’s like, Roger.
LOL "In and out, rather like you would if you were having sex...If you can remember what that's like"! You are a Funny Man! Also educational. Thx!
Glad to hear that i wasent told and know its too late but i want to bring awarness of this evil disease
What drill are you using?
DeWalt
@@SkillBuilder What model and watts. I'm going to core a 162mm hole in LECA block. Will 800w be enough?
@@AlexinOslo Absolutely not, minimum 1500w
@@techguy12426 I cut through the Leca in minutes with an 800w Metabo Drill with clutch. The core bit was from UK drills, really cheap. I made 4 x 160mm holes. It was overkill but luckily I sold the drill after the job for almost what I bought it for.
@@techguy12426 1500w 😂 Last time I trust RUclips.
...if you can remember what that's like....so true
Unfortunately, since I had a stroke, I can not remember what it is like.
Thomas Blackwell that’s funny since I got married it came to a end😂
"Like having sex, if ya can remember what that's like!" LOL. "I've been married 16 years. You only get 7 for manslaughter!" (Mike Harding.... or might have been Les Dawson..??) Try coring thru Accrington brick. East Lancashire. The casts for the bricks had the letters "IRON" imprinted on them, but they didn't reverse the lettering. So, when they came outa the kilns, they had "NORI" imprinted. All the same, I have never encountered bricks so impenetrable and hard as these.
Top tip re exposing newer diamonds. Those cores aint cheap!
loafer sheffield +
I know the Acrrington Nori very well and use it sometimes for the diamond blade tests in Professional Builder Magazine It is class A engineering brick like Staffordshire blues and looks great in a dpc.
I knew it spelt Iron but I hadn't heard the story about the casts. It would be mirror writing.so maybe the bloke who laid them in was having a bad day.
Diamond dust or grit NOT diamonds ...
Excellent video, quick, (like sex) informative and well explained 👍
I've told the Mrs. that I need to remember what sex is like, so I can drill a hole, she told me the bit is undersized..
Cheers Roger, very informative. Sex? I'd probably be better at drilling core holes.
For a man drilling is intuitive but we need to practice with sex. Women fail to appreciate just how many hours we need to put in before we become perfect. They think a couple of hours a week is enough to perfect the art and it isn't.
Just like sex, lol
Omg what's sex got to do with it? Hehehehe your dirty mind Rodger
Bad language toward the end(in and out) rest is good explanation
Hi what make do you recommend
Corefix
@@SkillBuilder hi thanks for your reply I went on their website i can’t see where they sell the bits. Do they only supply a service ?