Comparing Mint State Morgan Silver Dollar Grades?
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2019
- In this video we are comparing the different between different Mint State ( MS ) graded Morgan Silver Dollars! To spice it up a bit we went with all Carson City Morgan Silver Dollars, but the most important part is that they were all the same Year and Mint Mark, as well as graded by the same Grading Service (in this case, PCGS ).
So, let me know what you think below, and do you disagree with the grades and think that they should have been graded differently?
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Thank you so much for watching everyone! Let me know what you think below and these grades!
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How do you feel about the peace dollars?
It all boils down to the mood the grader is in👍
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thank you for sharing, lm back in coin collecting,I'm 60 and buying a Morgan a month for the next 10 yrs, starting with common 64s, have a few pcgs rattlers and a few ngc the older holders,
Good.
I think the 63 looks best! Thanks for sharing!
Depends what the grader had for lunch.
I got the 63 and 64 reversed after showing the side by side I can see the difference in the luster in the field and would probably choose the 64 as the best coin now
what a great video! I love the comparison of the same year, and mint of a morgan. from MS61-64!
Thanks CGOM! You rock my friend!
@@SilverSeeker I appreciate that bro
The MS62 is the nicest coin.
Thanks bud!
Picked some beautiful Morgan’s and will submit for grading. Hope they come back with a great number.
Grading is 100% subjective to which grader sees the coin, and which day it crosses the table.
There's good money made in cracking nice coins out of lower ms holders and sending them back in. Bulk grading prices are $5-$8 per coin. Well worth it for quite a few mintage/years.
Buy the coin, not the holder.
Im at 4:03 and my guess is 62, 63, 61, 64
Appears that coin graders are like baseball umpires, each with their own strike zones.
LOL so true
Same applies to the collectors
The whole hobby is subjective
Although PCGS was started by a group of collectors, ultimately the collectors made PCGS and NGC the success they are today
There’s a reason the buy the coin not the holder cliche started - They’re good for a guide
The hobby needs them though
Can you imagine raw coins being sold and traded though auction houses like Heritage stacks and great collections
Values would be softer and all over the place
Raw coins were auctioned off pre 1980
All that said, the hobby’s in need of a revamp and Pcgs NGC et al need to modernize and upgrade some processes
Things like tracking a coins history to prevent regrades, favoritism to big client s(cough cough David Lawrence cough cough ) etc
But these things won’t happen as they’re publicly traded corporations that have to make investors money
What the hobby needs is for the top tier grading services like
Pcgs NGC to be non profit. That alone would prevent the current conflict of interest it is
62 61 63 64 is the order i think
I don't believe I could ever develops the ability to grade coins. Interesting subject. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for the educational lesson. Much appreciated!
Thanks so much for watching SM!
Thanks for the fun video!
I like the explanation on them.
Thought the 63 was the 64, the 64 the 63 and I same with the 61 and 62 lol. This is why I'm afraid to get my unc morgans graded. Leaving up the overall value and grade of it up to what one persons opinion is. Although seeing the 66 gives me hope of some of mine coming back 64s to 67s
its easy to see the difference its about luster and eye appeal as well ive seen AU 58s with less contact marks then MS 63s if you try to grade coins just by contact marks it wont go well for you + you had the 61 tilted too much you can clearly see that was the lowest grade due to the lack of luster but by tilting it you hide some of the scratches and contact marks easy way to see it is the thick white coat especially on the Carson city Morgans thats a start to learning the difference but it takes time to see the difference just start comparing coins to already graded coins in NGC or PCGS holders and you will learn over time wow just realized this video is from Dec you may have learned this by now
This helped me to be more knowledgable on the tiny differences between grades. Wish I saw this many moons ago. I have a tendency to grade my coins a little too high. This helped me too calm down. Thanks for this important information. Chow.
Lots of great information and love the CC's ! 👍
The reverse field might be protected better by the raised wreath. What do you think?
Use a 7x hasting triplet
I thought the MS 63 looked better than the MS 64. But that is why I have to leave it to the graders. I also don't buy a coin until it is graded simply because of my inability to judge what isn't a bad mark and what is a bad mark.
Very informative, thanks for another great video.
Thanks for watching Wolfie!
I can
Luster and strike and eye appeal are the other main components of coin grade other than chatter.
If you look at Pcgs website they’ll show their eye appeal guide specifically on Morgan dollars and what they consider to be very positive effects of eye appeal to positive to neutral to negative to strongly negative
Lustrous original surfaces will forgive chatter and hits especially if not in prime focal areas. The general guide 60-62 are “Uncirculated “
63-64 are “choice uncirculated”
65+ are “gems”
And of course coins can be regraded with different results including details grades become problem free and vice versa
I made the first 1896-O Barber half dollar in AU58 back in 2012. At the time it was a pop 0 coin and it took 4 submissions from a moderately large dealer who was very sharp and submitted hundreds of coins a month to Pcgs
They were hesitant to grade it 58
I sold it in 2014 in a heritage auction for over $14k
I think the grader might have been drinking heavily when he was grading these coins lol. 💿👑
When you get to the MS67's + and higher in many denominations the grader is hesitant to add more coins to low populations of specific grades.
The ability to change the value of a coin exponentially by a single grade or even a + should be in the hands of AI soon and take human element of subjectivity out of coin grading.
As the saying goes, buy the coin not the holder.
The MS64 was my MS61 and I don’t agree with this to be a 64 ! It all depends on the mood of the person grading that day
That was an interesting video :)
The only thing I know about grading is that you never know what to expect. I once saw someone post a slabbed Jefferson Nickel to a Facebook group. It had been designated FS even though it had a big gash across 4 of the steps.
As the old adage goes: Buy the coin and not the holder!
"Buy the Coin, not the Holder" could not be MORE true! Thanks so much for the comment Nefferson!
You really need to rotate the coins and look at all angles, this is the way you compare.
Not exactly easy to do that on camera but I hear ya
That reverse die clash you pointes out , near the wreath, is on 1883 reverses too. I have a philly and new orleans , both are pcgs ms64 and have that same die clash. Neat stuff. My new favorite morgan dollar fact is the 1921 denver was struck with silver from the famous comstoc lode! That makes it the only denver morgan and the only comstoc lode morgans.
62-61-64-63 Either way, great vid Seeker.
Thanks for watching bud!
Yes you can, my 64 is much better than my 62/61 all graded by PCGS.
61, 63, 64, 62
To me the 63 looks better that the 64. Look at her ear, the 64 look wore and flatter than the 63. The 63 has more detail to me. I guess it really depends on the grader for that day lol like buying a car, wonder if a Monday or a Friday grade differs from the rest of the week days.
I like having a lot of luster on my BU silver dollars. I like the MS-62 and the MS-64 the best.
looking nice , wish I had them , Seeker is the best
Enjoyed the video. Love to look at morgans. Did not think that die cracks or clash marks were a factor in grading til you get to the lofty 66 67 & 68s. In general, I think grading was quite generous.
I dont know anything on grading i like them all.
2,1,3,4 is my guess at 5:04
ms 62, 61, 63, 64 my guess
May I know what could you get with a Morgan silver dollar back then?
Guys, Lets Go!
"Bagmarks"
Morgans are the easiest to grade
This makes me sad, Silver Seeker, I think PCGS really undergraded my Morgans.
Do you know if the same person graded the 61 and 62?
Thank you for the video. Morgan is THE ONE coin I acquire and study. Honestly...after over 4 and a half years I still have great joy w/the coins...but am less and less confident in the THIRD PARTY GRADERS. For ex: on that 6 CC in the video...I've had a (multi-line scrape) very much like that - but much smaller (and like the 6 in the video, it was impossible to know for sure where the scrape came from)...but they decided to give (this stunning 78 Rev of 79, and PL)...a DETAILS. Just sickening to see. There are plenty of other examples. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I BELIEVE W/THE 3RD P. GRS...THEIR GRADERS ARE NOT BOUND TO THEIR OWN STANDARDS/DEFINITIONS! Too many times - especially on coins that meet/exceed their own definition of PL...do not get the PL. And so there the coin sits...in the holder, very beautifully reflective, yet because it was not given the PL, when I asked a dealer: they would not even budge on their offer of (roughly 15% off wholesale)...from a typical coin of the same grade (w/out PL)...and w/PL, the price triples.
All are 61 and 62 there are not 64s
Cheese and rice I wasn't even close. Pretty sure I called the 63 a 61 and the 64 a 62. Hahaha I'll keep my day job
frankly, I dont give a shit with silver coin. dont play with this "certificate" game. just stack. go find new manufactured at low price; no dent, no crack, no scratch, no cripple, no deformation, no stain..new is perfect, fresh, shinny. just my opinion
That's fair my friend! However these aren't collected for Silver at all. Carson City Silver Dollars, although techincally Silver, and 100% numismatic coins, and the grades for these do matter. I understand where you are coming from for just regular Silver Bullion though, many people share that opinion. Thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment!
62 63 61 64
And this is my genuine thought before finding out. I can’t wait to seeee
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