I hope you watch, not only the Aerith date, but the whole Loveless play with Aerith so you'll see the parallels of the story of "Loveless" and FF7 Rebirth/Remake. Cloud=Hero Aerith=Rosa Sephiroth=Varvados -In the end credits of Rebirth, Aerith is the canon Rosa. Aerith is also the default Rosa if you get Barret, Red and the trio (Caith Sith, Vincent and Cid) as dates. So you get Aerith in 4 out of 6 dates. -In FF7 Rebirth concerts, the clips that were being shown while the orchestra is playing Loveless theme is Aerith as Rosa and Cloud as Alphreid. -Cloud and Aerith also met for the first time at the street named "Loveless" and under the "Loveless" play poster. -Kitase said that "Hollow" is Cloud's song about his feelings and "No Promises to Keep" is about Aerith's feelings and he wanted players to pay attention to that. -Nojima said the NPTK lyrics are about everyone Aerith loved including Cloud, Elymra (her mom), Zack, Tifa and Barret. But in the lyrics, it also says she met someone for the first time in the cobblestone streets and that is Cloud. -Uematsu, the composer, said it's a love song by Aerith: " 'No Promises to Keep' is a love song. I wanted it to exude a sweet feeling, but at the same time, evoke the complex feeling as Aerith confessed her feelings." -Loren Allred, the singer, said that she tried to get to know Aerith and wanted to depict her relationship with Cloud. Having said all these, it's okay to prefer a different ship or character.🩷
That's like thinking the actor and actress in your favorite show are really in love because their characters are. Even if the writer hadn't said so himself, the song is clearly about multiple people because no one fits all the lyrics. The line you quoted is likely about Cloud but "Until we meet again" for example, can't be about Cloud, or Tifa and Barret for that matter, as they are all right beside her already. So on and so forth for the rest of the lyrics. Of course, many are generic and could be about anyone/everyone she loves. Cool to ship whoever you want, but the developers showed us Cloud's choice, not just with the optional confession and kiss in the date, but with the entire subplot built up around Cloud and Tifa and the development of their relationship. And by the absence of these things with any other character.
@@talmanes4589 The Japanese lyrics indicates she's singing to one person. It says "the two of us". But it's okay to prefer Tifa. Part 3 will settle the shipping.
@@Anon51129 Seeing as how the songwriter disagrees with you, you don't have a leg to stand on with that argument. Also, SPOILERS, Aerith is dead, her and Cloud's relationship isn't going to develop anymore. They didn't even develop it any in Rebirth, they sure aren't going to when she's dead and out of the story for the most part. If I had to guess I think we'll see about as much of Aerith in part 3 as we saw of Zack in part 2, so a little snippet here and there but for the most part she'll be absent from part 3. In the OG game she is completely absent from the rest of the game after she dies, until the closing cut scenes. I think we'll see her a little more but not much.
Here's what the developers said about the dates in Ultimania (FF7 Rebirth official guidebook): "They admit, when asked about the Tifa Kiss scene, that it reminded him (Nojima) of a dating sim 30 years ago and that the dates should be regarded as completely separate from the main storyline." -translation by MsSaiFox "Toriyama says they aimed to faithfully recreate the exchanges inside the gondola with Aerith, keeping her iconic line intact. However, they gave the other characters some tweaks. For example, Barret's date delves deeper this time, inspired by Dyne's somber tale." -translation by ShinraArch -You should watch them all, especially Aerith's because it is important to the plot.
Do you know if there's a way for me to watch them after I finish the game, or do I have to build up specific relationships and play it all over again? (I know RUclips is an option but lol)
@@starburst6208 Yes, you can watch all of them after finishing the game. Not sure if I can post links here so just search "How to change Gold Saucer date in FF7 Rebirth" and watch the youtube video by Quick Tips or google the settings. Choose "intimate version" and replay Chapters 8 and 12. The ending chapter will make more sense though if you've seen Aerith's date. But I don't think there's a full video on youtube of those chapters. There are only videos of the date itself.
@@starburst6208 Yes, you can watch all of them after finishing the game. Not sure if I can post links here so just search "How to change Gold Saucer date in FF7 Rebirth" and watch the youtube video by Quick Tips or google the settings. Choose "intimate version" and replay Chapters 8 and 12. Edit: Sorry my comments keep going missing.
@@starburst6208i think you’d have to start over from the beginning to build affinity which is super time consuming. youtube is probably your best option. aerith and tifa get romantic dates, while the rest of the dates are platonic. i hope we can see your reactions to them! (aerith’s was my fav🥹) even if they aren’t canon, they are super fun and sweet. enjoy the rest of the story!❣️
There's no need to worry about the other dates impact because none of the others are romantic with a kiss like this one. There is no such thing as romancing Yuffie or Barret or even Aerith, all those dates are friendly nights out, not romantic with a kiss like this one. Theoretically all the dates could happen and none of them contradict each other. They're all touching and neat in their own right though. Tifa is my favorite but I like the Yuffie and Red dates a lot too.
@@starburst6208 Once you beat the game you can replay the chapter and choose any date you want (works for the ch8 date as well), or just watch them on youtube. They are all pretty cool in different ways and I'd say all are worth watching. I can't believe you thought Yuffie's would be romantic, she's only 16 and he's 21. Aerith's is closer, it's touching, but not like Tifa's. It makes sense, Cloud and Tifa already nearly kissed in Gongaga and there's a lot of build up between Cloud and Tifa in the game, leading to the kiss, and that's not there for anyone else. Just go watch them. They are all said to be accurate depictions of Cloud's feelings for each person.
@@talmanes4589 Okay sick! I'll probably watch those when I'm done the game on Friday then. Also I did not know Yuffie was 16 lol. I thought she was at least 20 (because I think most of the party is?) Though, now her childish attitude makes a lot more sense.
I hope you watch, not only the Aerith date, but the whole Loveless play with Aerith so you'll see the parallels of the story of "Loveless" and FF7 Rebirth/Remake.
Cloud=Hero
Aerith=Rosa
Sephiroth=Varvados
-In the end credits of Rebirth, Aerith is the canon Rosa. Aerith is also the default Rosa if you get Barret, Red and the trio (Caith Sith, Vincent and Cid) as dates. So you get Aerith in 4 out of 6 dates.
-In FF7 Rebirth concerts, the clips that were being shown while the orchestra is playing Loveless theme is Aerith as Rosa and Cloud as Alphreid.
-Cloud and Aerith also met for the first time at the street named "Loveless" and under the "Loveless" play poster.
-Kitase said that "Hollow" is Cloud's song about his feelings and "No Promises to Keep" is about Aerith's feelings and he wanted players to pay attention to that.
-Nojima said the NPTK lyrics are about everyone Aerith loved including Cloud, Elymra (her mom), Zack, Tifa and Barret. But in the lyrics, it also says she met someone for the first time in the cobblestone streets and that is Cloud.
-Uematsu, the composer, said it's a love song by Aerith: " 'No Promises to Keep' is a love song. I wanted it to exude a sweet feeling, but at the same time, evoke the complex feeling as Aerith confessed her feelings."
-Loren Allred, the singer, said that she tried to get to know Aerith and wanted to depict her relationship with Cloud.
Having said all these, it's okay to prefer a different ship or character.🩷
That's like thinking the actor and actress in your favorite show are really in love because their characters are.
Even if the writer hadn't said so himself, the song is clearly about multiple people because no one fits all the lyrics. The line you quoted is likely about Cloud but "Until we meet again" for example, can't be about Cloud, or Tifa and Barret for that matter, as they are all right beside her already. So on and so forth for the rest of the lyrics. Of course, many are generic and could be about anyone/everyone she loves.
Cool to ship whoever you want, but the developers showed us Cloud's choice, not just with the optional confession and kiss in the date, but with the entire subplot built up around Cloud and Tifa and the development of their relationship. And by the absence of these things with any other character.
@@talmanes4589 The Japanese lyrics indicates she's singing to one person. It says "the two of us". But it's okay to prefer Tifa. Part 3 will settle the shipping.
@@Anon51129 Seeing as how the songwriter disagrees with you, you don't have a leg to stand on with that argument. Also, SPOILERS,
Aerith is dead, her and Cloud's relationship isn't going to develop anymore. They didn't even develop it any in Rebirth, they sure aren't going to when she's dead and out of the story for the most part. If I had to guess I think we'll see about as much of Aerith in part 3 as we saw of Zack in part 2, so a little snippet here and there but for the most part she'll be absent from part 3. In the OG game she is completely absent from the rest of the game after she dies, until the closing cut scenes. I think we'll see her a little more but not much.
Here's what the developers said about the dates in Ultimania (FF7 Rebirth official guidebook):
"They admit, when asked about the Tifa Kiss scene, that it reminded him (Nojima) of a dating sim 30 years ago and that the dates should be regarded as completely separate from the main storyline."
-translation by MsSaiFox
"Toriyama says they aimed to faithfully recreate the exchanges inside the gondola with Aerith, keeping her iconic line intact. However, they gave the other characters some tweaks. For example, Barret's date delves deeper this time, inspired by Dyne's somber tale."
-translation by ShinraArch
-You should watch them all, especially Aerith's because it is important to the plot.
Do you know if there's a way for me to watch them after I finish the game, or do I have to build up specific relationships and play it all over again? (I know RUclips is an option but lol)
@@starburst6208 Yes, you can watch all of them after finishing the game. Not sure if I can post links here so just search "How to change Gold Saucer date in FF7 Rebirth" and watch the youtube video by Quick Tips or google the settings. Choose "intimate version" and replay Chapters 8 and 12.
The ending chapter will make more sense though if you've seen Aerith's date. But I don't think there's a full video on youtube of those chapters. There are only videos of the date itself.
@@starburst6208 Yes, you can watch all of them after finishing the game. Not sure if I can post links here so just search "How to change Gold Saucer date in FF7 Rebirth" and watch the youtube video by Quick Tips or google the settings. Choose "intimate version" and replay Chapters 8 and 12.
Edit: Sorry my comments keep going missing.
@@starburst6208i think you’d have to start over from the beginning to build affinity which is super time consuming. youtube is probably your best option. aerith and tifa get romantic dates, while the rest of the dates are platonic. i hope we can see your reactions to them! (aerith’s was my fav🥹) even if they aren’t canon, they are super fun and sweet. enjoy the rest of the story!❣️
There's no need to worry about the other dates impact because none of the others are romantic with a kiss like this one. There is no such thing as romancing Yuffie or Barret or even Aerith, all those dates are friendly nights out, not romantic with a kiss like this one. Theoretically all the dates could happen and none of them contradict each other. They're all touching and neat in their own right though. Tifa is my favorite but I like the Yuffie and Red dates a lot too.
Oh wow I didn't know that! I assumed all the female character dates would be romantic. Now I have to watch the other dates lol
@@starburst6208 Once you beat the game you can replay the chapter and choose any date you want (works for the ch8 date as well), or just watch them on youtube. They are all pretty cool in different ways and I'd say all are worth watching. I can't believe you thought Yuffie's would be romantic, she's only 16 and he's 21. Aerith's is closer, it's touching, but not like Tifa's. It makes sense, Cloud and Tifa already nearly kissed in Gongaga and there's a lot of build up between Cloud and Tifa in the game, leading to the kiss, and that's not there for anyone else. Just go watch them. They are all said to be accurate depictions of Cloud's feelings for each person.
@@talmanes4589 Okay sick! I'll probably watch those when I'm done the game on Friday then. Also I did not know Yuffie was 16 lol. I thought she was at least 20 (because I think most of the party is?) Though, now her childish attitude makes a lot more sense.