I have seen a few other reviews of this truck before seeing this one. Wow, Greg, you have the most comprehensive and well-explained, well, best, review by far. Thanks. This truck looks fantastic.
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I've told you before and I'll keep telling you again and again.....you are by far the best reviewer I have ever seen on RUclips! Your in depth reviews are spot on! You don't hold back on saying what you feel is wrong or can be improved on any rc sent to you. This is just one reason I follow you, that and because you explain things to those of us that are new to rc in such a way that we can understand what you are saying and not just throw out a lot of lingo that only veterans of rc can understand! That area was gorgeous! I have never been to the NE part of the US but I have seen everywhere from New York state south and west! That is definitely some beautiful country up there that I need to travel too someday. Thank you so much for all your great videos, reviews, and honest opinions! You are a great teacher for those of us still trying to learn as much as we can about the great world of rc! BTW I've been trying to post some videos to my RUclips but they're no where near your quality! Maybe someday I'll get there! Lol.
Jay Tucker Thanks so much for the compliments, it means a lot. Keep working on your videos. It’s not easy to get started, but the more you do, the better you get. 😀
@The Sacrosanct Great I haven't had any problems. I swapped out a lot of the stock parts but not due to breakage, the stock servo is still going strong though lol. I also bought the Gatekeeper in kit version and I love that too.
@@rcdriver I saw a post from proline by the fire , one of the three in the pic the front grill had been painted with a chrome pen and looked exactly like the 1990 dodge ram I had!
Hey It was nice to run into you at Proline by the fire. I'm really impressed by this rig having seen it in person... now to decide what to sell to make space for this guy. It really looks like a truck that needs very little replaced and this is coming from someone who usually replaces a good portion of the stock bits and electronics on crawlers. Good work Element RC!
Great video. I used to have a Blackfoot when I was a kid and I'm looking to get into RCing again so I'm doing some research. I was blown away with your detailed review and I think this truck will be my entry back into this world. A lot has changed and I'm super excited. I use to off road full sized vehicles but with kids and life, it goes the way if the Dodo. This send like an awesome option to scratch that itch. Keep up the good work!
When I saw the front of the truck it screamed out Ford Bronco to me, at least the grill does. Oh, maybe an international Scout, just the grill though. Regardless of what vehicle it is modeled after it looks cool, I like it. It looks like the big brother of the CR12. I am so proud of AE and the fact that they stepped up and made a 1/10 scale crawler to compete with the other companies. Who knows maybe I will become an AE snob again, I have already washed my hands of Traxxas and their constant bullying. YEAH AE!!!!! Great video man, you did that truck Justice.
@@rcdriver Thank you for the great review of this vehicle. I have been waiting for AE to start coming out with some stuff to compete with the other companies that are not known for racing, and they did not disappoint with this vehicle. I did a review of the CR12 and I was not impressed during the unboxing, but I was when I took it out for a test drive.
When I was a kid I used a empty case of beer as a paint shed for my models and my RC's... I would have been elated to have a paint shed that look like that box. I am 50 now and wanting to get back into scale trucks, but I have taking over 24/7 care of my ailing mother. So any money I obtained goes to her medicines, treatments and daily care items. I would so love to get back into RC scale trucks, but even as good a deal as this is, it's just not in my future. Thanks for a great video I gave you a like and subscribed to help you along... Stay frosty and drive on.
Theres alot to like with this truck. I wish the body was a licensed 70’s Power Wagon but it looks more like an 80’s Ranger to me. Not a deal breaker tho. Nice job Associated.
Well done! Your crawler footage is the best, video wise, I've seen on any other channel. I'm thinking of getting a scale rock crawler to add to my small basher collection.. I'll definitely give this model serious consideration. Thanks.
One of the best descriptions i have see. You say everything about the vehicle and i don't have something to ask, i just learned everything. You are very cool. I just subscribe because you deserved that.
Great video Greg! Extremely thorough. Looks like such an awesome truck and all the attention to detail that was put into it really shows. I’ll definitely be picking this up soon.
It reminds me of GTA vehicles, they are a mixture of make and models. I think the cab looks like a Ford Ranger 80's model, the headlight frames can appear chevy like. Tailgate definately looks Chevy inspired. It seems to move similar to Axial's SCX10.2 models. Thanks again. You Rock.
Didn’t know what the big fuss was about because I’ve been sort of disappointed with recent a few new products but this one really got me excited. This could be a great platform for not only building a show truck but also play in competition field. I’m impressed. Thank you for the great review
Thanks Rich great review and scenes as always. I think this will be my first crawler/trail truck very cool I really do love it and the body colour to me is awesome I’d paint it the same. Nice display model also haha
Absolutely love the truck . To me it's made by one of the two Kings of the hobby . Tamiya being the other of the two . Which simply means I would buy it with no questions on the brand name alone. Beautiful review thanks so much for going so in-depth with your video . Great video as always . Nothing but love from you Greg and RC driver . Been a subscriber since the magazine came out . Recently started watching RUclips and here I am .
Not bad I like it. Hope to c more. Great job as always I enjoy ur reviews honest thorough. Very clear. Keep up the good work ur one of the best. Till the next one. Primo
Well done - thank you for the video! I didn't see this coming and I'm actually really excited about this release. That's coming from a guy who loves his TRX-4s and Axial trucks. Looks like a good value in this package for sure. I agree that they really seem to have done their homework, WOW.
I don't know how you can praise this truck. Look up the Aussie reviews people if you want honest. I got this truck for Xmas and sent it back the next day.
Excellent review bro. Very thorough and well done. It's a great sign for the hobby I think, to have companies jumping in and taking us seriously. This truck looks like a winner. Obviously there's things people are going to complain about it not having but to me at that price point the first impression I'm getting from these reviews is that it's a good deal. 👍👍
This is my next crawler for sure. I love this truck! Would have bought it already if it weren’t for the Axial SCX10 Blazer on Christmas sale! I stopped by Associated Electrics to check it out and they were super friendly, told me all about it showed me all the details. Axial is a few miles in the other direction. How lucky am I?
Great review of what promises to be a fantastic truck, mines on pre-order cant wait! Element have the inner arches/ wheelwells listed, so everything looks to be spot on!
Great video and review! Your review was very in depth with a lot of info. Great running footage also. I've been an AE car owner for over 30 years and I'm really excited to see them getting into the scale world. I believe this will be an awesome rig and I am looking forward to picking one of these up to add to my collection.
Reminds me more of the old Ford Ranger much more than an F series, I had a Ranger many years ago, same color as the model, same extended cab, just a dead ringer for the mid to late 80's Ranger extended cab imo. Not a bad looking truck & a decent offering from Associated, price ain't scary either. Overall a wicked review and closeup look at this new rig, thanks for sharing the truck with us Brother, a great video!
Excellent content and always!! This will be my next crawler I'm skipping the umg for now. And being Ae I dont need to upgrade right off just make it look like my own, interior and maybe 2 tone and some other little bits. A servo winch will be first, and it's ready for one, amazballs Ae!!
That is a great rig, almost all inclusive, the body is a mix of designs, i can tell ford, chevy like patterns. It looks amazing, thanks for the review on this.
Truck looks nice. Never heard of the brand but it's mother company is well known. Doubt it will ever be sold here in the Netherlands. Love the detailed /extensive review. Great job!
It really shows great potential right there. The overdrive tranny and the sharp turning radius are both eye openers, although one needs to be aware that this kit comes with a very very light and low lexan body which helps a lot on these 1st previews reviews around the internet. Even my old G2 without that heavy hard d90 body can* (after spending a few hundreds on add-ons) perform similarly under the same conditions. What I'd like to see is a direct comparison between this new truck and a scx-10 II right out of the box. One thing I didnt like is the arrangement of the electronics which appears to unable full 3d interiors.
I have a TRX4 Sport I built as the kit version and I’m super impressed with it, but I’d like to get a second rig so my son and daughter can drive at the same time as I can. I’m considering the Trail Walker version as it’s less and I have my old Traxxas stock 1.9 wheels and tires and have some oem proline open cell foams from the Predator Krawlers I just bought that I’m using with dual stage on my TRX4. I think this Element is lighter weight so it’ll work well with the super soft foams. For $299 cant go wrong
This is the closest anyone has gotten to a 1st generation dodge in the rc industry which is sad I’ve never understand why dodge is so discriminated against in the rc industry either way I’ll probably be picking one of these up
I have seen a few other reviews of this truck before seeing this one. Wow, Greg, you have the most comprehensive and well-explained, well, best, review by far. Thanks. This truck looks fantastic.
John Vogel Thanks! Put a lot of time into this one. With the brand being new, I tried to include as much info as I could. Thanks for watching!
true!
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@Matteo Trace Instablaster ;)
@Langston Nash Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and Im in the hacking process now.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
I've told you before and I'll keep telling you again and again.....you are by far the best reviewer I have ever seen on RUclips! Your in depth reviews are spot on! You don't hold back on saying what you feel is wrong or can be improved on any rc sent to you. This is just one reason I follow you, that and because you explain things to those of us that are new to rc in such a way that we can understand what you are saying and not just throw out a lot of lingo that only veterans of rc can understand! That area was gorgeous! I have never been to the NE part of the US but I have seen everywhere from New York state south and west! That is definitely some beautiful country up there that I need to travel too someday. Thank you so much for all your great videos, reviews, and honest opinions! You are a great teacher for those of us still trying to learn as much as we can about the great world of rc! BTW I've been trying to post some videos to my RUclips but they're no where near your quality! Maybe someday I'll get there! Lol.
Jay Tucker Thanks so much for the compliments, it means a lot. Keep working on your videos. It’s not easy to get started, but the more you do, the better you get. 😀
Fantastically comprehensive video Greg. I'm really pleased with the truck.
Great video as always. Thank you for taking the time to really check this new truck out and show us its potential.
3d_scale_rc Thank you for watching!!
So glad I waiting and didn't get the 1.9 wraith or UMG10, I like this a lot more and it's a new company, I'm going to get one to support them.
triangleswinger RC I think its on a lot of people’s wish list now.
@The Sacrosanct Great I haven't had any problems. I swapped out a lot of the stock parts but not due to breakage, the stock servo is still going strong though lol. I also bought the Gatekeeper in kit version and I love that too.
Thanks for the 'heads up' on this lovable truck. Best review out there, as usual.
Looks like a great truck, thank you for the awesome review
The more I look in to this truck, the more impressed I am, excellent work by Associated / Element RC.
Fern Solo They did a great job right out of the gate!
Reminds me of a 80s dodge d250! Love it👍🏼
Blake Mullins Yup, can see that.
Ford ranger is what it looks like to me it looks very good
Danual Stempfley Yup, after spending more time with it. I agree, Ranger.
@@rcdriver I saw a post from proline by the fire , one of the three in the pic the front grill had been painted with a chrome pen and looked exactly like the 1990 dodge ram I had!
FORD FLIPPIN RANGER
Love that truck Awesome Footage and great challenges for us to see it handling. Thanx a mill
Excellent review. I believe that was the most realistic review I've seen. Good work!
Pretty awesome rig!! But I love that box that's awesome. Appreciate you sharing. I'll be watching for more .
Andy Richey Yea, so cool you can turn it into a garage diorama.
Man, great footage. That suspension looks super smooth! 👌🏼
RC TREK Thanks! It was cool to watch the suspension work in person and looks just as cool in the video.
Hey It was nice to run into you at Proline by the fire. I'm really impressed by this rig having seen it in person... now to decide what to sell to make space for this guy. It really looks like a truck that needs very little replaced and this is coming from someone who usually replaces a good portion of the stock bits and electronics on crawlers. Good work Element RC!
Same! PLBTF was awesome! Bumpers need to be changed up, but nothing else is a must change at the start. They did great with this rig.
Definitely a Jeep Comanche body!!!!!!! love this KIT. ENDURO KILLED IT!
Great truck for sure! And awesome in-depth review as always! Thanks
Best in-depth review I’ve seen on this rig yet. Great job, always enjoy you vids!
Thank you! It was a fun video to make.
Thank you for the fantastic review bro! You really put a lot of work into your productions. LOVE the truck. Thank you Greg!
David Bumbeck Thank you for watching!!!
Great video. I used to have a Blackfoot when I was a kid and I'm looking to get into RCing again so I'm doing some research.
I was blown away with your detailed review and I think this truck will be my entry back into this world. A lot has changed and I'm super excited. I use to off road full sized vehicles but with kids and life, it goes the way if the Dodo. This send like an awesome option to scratch that itch.
Keep up the good work!
It looks really promising, looks are ok, innovation is there and as a brand they sure introduce a full package right from the start.
Cesco RC Yup, the transmission gear change options is certainly innovative!
The value out-of-the-box looks incredible.
David Pigg Yes, certainly a great value out of the box!
Excellent video. Looks like a nice truck - love the box too!
EBthere Box is pretty awesome!
Great review and first drive. Very thorough👍👍 Can't wait to get one of these in my hands. Looks like a great rig!
Ready Set RC Thanks! Putting some more time in on it at ProLine By The Fire. It’s working really well!
Awesome vid, outstanding music added as well. Good stuff.
When I saw the front of the truck it screamed out Ford Bronco to me, at least the grill does. Oh, maybe an international Scout, just the grill though. Regardless of what vehicle it is modeled after it looks cool, I like it. It looks like the big brother of the CR12. I am so proud of AE and the fact that they stepped up and made a 1/10 scale crawler to compete with the other companies. Who knows maybe I will become an AE snob again, I have already washed my hands of Traxxas and their constant bullying. YEAH AE!!!!! Great video man, you did that truck Justice.
Honest RC Thanks for watching!! It’s a great rig.
@@rcdriver Thank you for the great review of this vehicle. I have been waiting for AE to start coming out with some stuff to compete with the other companies that are not known for racing, and they did not disappoint with this vehicle. I did a review of the CR12 and I was not impressed during the unboxing, but I was when I took it out for a test drive.
This truck has the best components for the money, really impressive. Great review big thumbs 👍🏻👍🏻
SB RC Thank you!
Awesome please show more!!!!!
When I was a kid I used a empty case of beer as a paint shed for my models and my RC's... I would have been elated to have a paint shed that look like that box. I am 50 now and wanting to get back into scale trucks, but I have taking over 24/7 care of my ailing mother. So any money I obtained goes to her medicines, treatments and daily care items. I would so love to get back into RC scale trucks, but even as good a deal as this is, it's just not in my future.
Thanks for a great video I gave you a like and subscribed to help you along...
Stay frosty and drive on.
So glad to see AE getting involved in 1/10 scale crawling.
Yup, pretty cool to see!
I'm actually happy they didn't try and jump on the bandwagon with portal axles (training wheels)
Theres alot to like with this truck. I wish the body was a licensed 70’s Power Wagon but it looks more like an 80’s Ranger to me. Not a deal breaker tho. Nice job Associated.
Excellent review. Looks like you nailed it. But, because I like to build up from kits, I will probably hold my breath until a kit version is offered.
Bill Deras Kits seem to be making a comeback. Hopefully we won’t have to hold our breath too long. 😆
Well done! Your crawler footage is the best, video wise, I've seen on any other channel. I'm thinking of getting a scale rock crawler to add to my small basher collection.. I'll definitely give this model serious consideration. Thanks.
One of the best descriptions i have see. You say everything about the vehicle and i don't have something to ask, i just learned everything. You are very cool. I just subscribe because you deserved that.
panayiotis konstantos Thank you very much for the kind words. It means a lot!
Great detailed review! Rig looks great, overdrive included is pretty awesome!
Kootenay RC Yup, works so good right out of the box with the overdrive.
Really looking forward to picking this one up!
REVolutionX Seems to be what many are saying. 👍
LOL 28:50 I thought for sure, uh oh, he's stuck. Great recovery.
Great video Greg! Extremely thorough. Looks like such an awesome truck and all the attention to detail that was put into it really shows. I’ll definitely be picking this up soon.
Mark Davis Thanks! Wanted to show as much as I could. Taking the truck apart is very easy.
It reminds me of GTA vehicles, they are a mixture of make and models. I think the cab looks like a Ford Ranger 80's model, the headlight frames can appear chevy like. Tailgate definately looks Chevy inspired. It seems to move similar to Axial's SCX10.2 models. Thanks again. You Rock.
David Bumbeck You rock for watching! Thank you!
Well covered! Dis is it! The next wondertruck!
The wheel looking good also body color!!
Heh, my RC journey started in 1985!!!!!!!! 😁👍
Nice to see it in action
STEVO D 313 Thanks for checking in Stevo
Thanks for the review... it looks real good out there... nice crawling...
cheers!
Awe_RC Thanks for watching!!
Didn’t know what the big fuss was about because I’ve been sort of disappointed with recent a few new products but this one really got me excited. This could be a great platform for not only building a show truck but also play in competition field. I’m impressed. Thank you for the great review
CRAWLER75 Yes, exactly, a great mid ground rig.
Good looking truck and filming spot
(Unfortunately I’m about to leave somewhere so I’ll have to wait to see the rest later)
Aaron Cook Love that spot. Spent most of the day there.
looking forward to purchase this unit for myself too..thank for the great video and information!
YaiRC Happy to help
Thanks Rich great review and scenes as always. I think this will be my first crawler/trail truck very cool I really do love it and the body colour to me is awesome I’d paint it the same. Nice display model also haha
What a great looking RC truck.
Already got a nice setup set aside for it! Looks good!
Tekin Racing It does!!
Looks like an 80's Ford Ranger.
Corey Butlrer Yup, agree!
Agreed
FORD FLIPPIN RANGER
Fantastic rig, out of the box love it so much I have planed"s for her ty for the vid you are the best out there, bar none!
Great to see new products on the market, as a whole it will help the industry to improve. Nice review dude 👍🏻
It is! Thanks for watching!
Nice save there at the end. I thought for sure it was a gonner.
Great video! It was also great to meet you at at PBF.
Absolutely love the truck . To me it's made by one of the two Kings of the hobby . Tamiya being the other of the two . Which simply means I would buy it with no questions on the brand name alone. Beautiful review thanks so much for going so in-depth with your video . Great video as always . Nothing but love from you Greg and RC driver . Been a subscriber since the magazine came out . Recently started watching RUclips and here I am .
Mel Myrtle Thank you so much for the compliments and for watching!!
Not bad I like it. Hope to c more. Great job as always I enjoy ur reviews honest thorough. Very clear. Keep up the good work ur one of the best. Till the next one. Primo
Looks like a hybrid design between a Ford ranger and a Chevy half ton. Can't wait to get mine.
I’ve got a lot of RC traxxas rock crawlers in this thing out does them by far Very happy with my purchase
Well done - thank you for the video! I didn't see this coming and I'm actually really excited about this release. That's coming from a guy who loves his TRX-4s and Axial trucks. Looks like a good value in this package for sure. I agree that they really seem to have done their homework, WOW.
pwrofgrayskull Yup, certainly plenty of value with this rig.
I don't know how you can praise this truck. Look up the Aussie reviews people if you want honest. I got this truck for Xmas and sent it back the next day.
Very impressed 🙌 this is gonna be a hot!
Trent Galloway It certainly appears like it!👍
So great to see a unique looking truck. I think I gotta check it out myself 👍
Luke’s Vintage Rc Car Restoration It has some great features right out of the box.
Very cool more please
I love mine, such a blast to drive! great video!
SNOWMOD RC Thanks B! Great seeing you at PLBTF.
@@rcdriver Likewise! Next time we will have to do some trailin.
Excellent review bro. Very thorough and well done. It's a great sign for the hobby I think, to have companies jumping in and taking us seriously. This truck looks like a winner. Obviously there's things people are going to complain about it not having but to me at that price point the first impression I'm getting from these reviews is that it's a good deal. 👍👍
TJsRC Thanks, the overdrive right out of the box is a huge hit among other things. Element did their homework.
great vid. I will be getting mine very soon.
Great review! I think the body is a Chord! :-D
Thanks for watching 😆
This is my next crawler for sure. I love this truck! Would have bought it already if it weren’t for the Axial SCX10 Blazer on Christmas sale! I stopped by Associated Electrics to check it out and they were super friendly, told me all about it showed me all the details. Axial is a few miles in the other direction. How lucky am I?
Great explanation of this kit from Associated Element🇺🇸👍🏻🏁
Thank you!
WoW great review! This is what I look for from you guys and I can see you went all out for this one. Thanks very much
Jay Benson Thank you for watching!
Great review of what promises to be a fantastic truck, mines on pre-order cant wait! Element have the inner arches/ wheelwells listed, so everything looks to be spot on!
Truck looks awesome great crawling great location
paul Butcher Its a fun spot to crawl!
wow man, how lovely truck.. 😍
Associated just put everything else in the market in a fight for Second place! Home Run! 👍🏼
Dezfan They came out of the gate with a great rig!
You should do a review on the RGT rock bowler.
Great video and review! Your review was very in depth with a lot of info. Great running footage also. I've been an AE car owner for over 30 years and I'm really excited to see them getting into the scale world. I believe this will be an awesome rig and I am looking forward to picking one of these up to add to my collection.
Brian Mowry Thanks, it’s a nice spot to run. Seems like a lot of people are adding this one to their collection. 😀
great video
Another great review looks like a nice truck
Great Vid! Cool looking truck. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Luis L.P. RC's Thank you for checking it out!
Your reviews are awesome. Thanks
NitroStar Thank you!
Reminds me more of the old Ford Ranger much more than an F series, I had a Ranger many years ago, same color as the model, same extended cab, just a dead ringer for the mid to late 80's Ranger extended cab imo. Not a bad looking truck & a decent offering from Associated, price ain't scary either. Overall a wicked review and closeup look at this new rig, thanks for sharing the truck with us Brother, a great video!
YYC Designz Custom RC Creations Thanks for checking out the video!
Excellent content and always!! This will be my next crawler I'm skipping the umg for now. And being Ae I dont need to upgrade right off just make it look like my own, interior and maybe 2 tone and some other little bits. A servo winch will be first, and it's ready for one, amazballs Ae!!
Looks nice
That is a great rig, almost all inclusive, the body is a mix of designs, i can tell ford, chevy like patterns. It looks amazing, thanks for the review on this.
Sanshoku Customs Hotwheels and more Thanks for watching!!
Aww man this truck looks awesome!
Excellent review for this truck👍I love the box lol 😄. Liked and subbed 👍.
T3K RC Hobby Thanks for watching!!
its as capable as my trx4 tactical unit im impressed
greaaaaaat as always!! you love what you do. thanks for sharing this love soooo often! 🥳🙂
Rooster RC Well thank you for taking the time to check it out!!
Truck looks nice. Never heard of the brand but it's mother company is well known. Doubt it will ever be sold here in the Netherlands. Love the detailed /extensive review. Great job!
Yes, Element RC is brand new. Thank you!!
very good vid, thanks!!!
Thanks for the review Greg, i like this truck so i'm going to get one, only thing i will have to do is strengthen that body up a bit though.
It really shows great potential right there. The overdrive tranny and the sharp turning radius are both eye openers, although one needs to be aware that this kit comes with a very very light and low lexan body which helps a lot on these 1st previews reviews around the internet. Even my old G2 without that heavy hard d90 body can* (after spending a few hundreds on add-ons) perform similarly under the same conditions. What I'd like to see is a direct comparison between this new truck and a scx-10 II right out of the box. One thing I didnt like is the arrangement of the electronics which appears to unable full 3d interiors.
I have a TRX4 Sport I built as the kit version and I’m super impressed with it, but I’d like to get a second rig so my son and daughter can drive at the same time as I can. I’m considering the Trail Walker version as it’s less and I have my old Traxxas stock 1.9 wheels and tires and have some oem proline open cell foams from the Predator Krawlers I just bought that I’m using with dual stage on my TRX4. I think this Element is lighter weight so it’ll work well with the super soft foams. For $299 cant go wrong
wow that's so cool
Good looking rig. My brother is loving his Trailwalker. Shame Element doesn’t have a K5, Scout, or Cherokee
Game changer right here
Many are saying that.
Man this is awesome! Looks like I'm adding this to my collection soon. Great video bro and thanks for the helpful insights on this rig 👍👊
This is the closest anyone has gotten to a 1st generation dodge in the rc industry which is sad I’ve never understand why dodge is so discriminated against in the rc industry either way I’ll probably be picking one of these up
Ian Schafer Might be licensing issues. Not sure.
I would hope its licensing that's the problem because theres no other excuse. I and a ton of friends want powerwagon bodys!!!