I think some Rick created the Meeseeks box. Rick is both brilliant and indiscriminate enough, and he certainly hates menial tasks. Rick created the sentient butter bot for a single task. He created an entire universe where every inhabitant has to work to produce power, just to fuel his spaceship. Creating the Meeseesks box would be right up his alley.
@@angelgoo7772 that's how the native Americans thought about land ownership, the colonists took advantage of this by buying they're land for shit prices. That natives didn't fully understand the concept until they were forced off certain areas
@@goreobsessed2308 no not at all, lol. We were not made by machines. This world is not ours, so I give you that. Serve creators that parent them? Not unless you have some wack ass parents, in that case call CPS. 1/3
@@MAGICMUSHI3335: Exactly, Meeseeks don't enjoy the tasks they are given, they enjoy knowing that upon completing their task they will be granted the sweet release of death, and will grow increasingly resentful should completion of that task take too long.
@@MAGICMUSHI3335The point of jerry golf was: It was impossible to fulfill - constant failure nonstop This drove him insane But they enjoy the task and thered prolly be a loophole - like certain death but surviving(maybe brutal violence) So it could also fulfill Meseeks are smart enough to find these loopholes - the reson they failed on golf was jerry So id guess its a happy life for meseeks to prove immortality
I wonder what would happen if you summoned a Meeseeks but didn’t give them a task? Like if you were having a heart attack and summoned one for help but died before you could ask it.
they would simply vanish like remember what they wanted to do with Jerry they said by killing him their summoning purpose would be canceled and they can also refuse to go like theone sceptic meseeks that stuck around until he took another swing
I think the best part of the whole comic affair is that, from a nihilistic perspective (like Rick's), the fact that all three Meeseeks ceased to exist, regardless of whether or not they count meaning in life, or satisfaction in that meaning, or even pondered the question at all, is ultimately the point. Whether or not you seek out meaning, whether or not you find it, whether or not it is ultimately satisfying to you, it all ultimately ends in the same way, with the only differences being how you spend the time you have and how you face that end. Meeseeks #2 dies in annoyance, without finding a real answer that can satisfy him, being annoyed at the interruption of his search. Meeseeks #1 dies in panic, wanting to live now that he understands a satisfying reason to do so, but being unable to change his fate or extend his time in this world. Meeseeks #3 dies in ignorance, just happy to have been useful and happy to be done with it. Nihilism posits that none of them are right, but also that none of them are wrong; that is the strange absurdity of living.
Honestly as someone who was raised catholic but is currently in college for aero space engineering I find that nihilism is honestly the most accurate way to go about life when I think about it. It doesn’t say anyone is right but it also doesn’t say anyone is wrong if more people could accept that statement we’d have less conflict and more understanding. But money and power will ultimately always stand in the way due to greed from just a few people who just happen to make the decisions.
@@Szaleos yah but not exactly. put simply, -absurdism is that Life has purpose, but that purpose is undefined, a blank line you can fill in with whatever you want. -Nihilism is the same but opposite, Life has no purpose. So you can do whatever you want with it, but it will never have true meaning. It’s one of those ‘is the glass half full or half empty’ kind of thing.
@@Scrinwaipwr The evidence is: Rick was the first person in the show to have one, and he's a character that habitually reveals very impressive things that he made himself, so "Rick made it" is the simple explanation.
Could a failsafe for Meeseeks be done by saying the task you want them to do while also giving them an alternative task that will inevitably be completed? For example, saying that you want them to stir the chili but messes it up and so the fallback task of live 3 days works?
@@mairisberzins8677 well it is still a finishable task. In Jerry's case - the Meeseeks just got super angry, because Jerry refused to finish the task. And then they all railed each other to hunt him. I think even a month long timer would make them at least secured the task can be finished. It's not eternity like in case of failing Jerry's request. Worst case scenario - they would just lock themselves in place awaiting the time to run out, instead of the task to be finished. It is also importance to mention - you could also failsafe them wanting to end you. You just need to add to the request that your death won't affect the task - and they will have to fulfill it even then. This locks out any loopholes.
I like the king theory and the fleeseeks box could have been made by a race trying to replicate the meeseeks, whether to ascend themselves or just for profit. They could also have been a first attempt or experiment of the king that ended in a subpar result.
You do realize that Rick himself said the fleeseeks box was Rick's joke about cleaning supplies, and Rick outright states in their introductory episode that HE invented them...
I wouldn't say that Mr. Meseeks can actually understand life as their soul purpose in creation is to be summoned most likely from temporal stasis and to do one specific task, so the fact that their bodies disintegrate upon completion of the task they're given means more then likely their species energy is literally reabsorbed into the machine that produces them and they're constantly recycled into new Mr. Meseeks
Hmm how about a form of Gaia Theorie. Each Meeseeks is a fragment or offshoot of a central entity that grows stronger with each returned Meeseeks. That means there is a central Godseeks that spawn little mee's that collect experience die return to central and become part of Godseeks which would mean they become God after death.
I sometimes wonder what happened to that one Meeseeks that was summoned to kill another, since they can't die until the thing they were summoned for is done. All the others were summoned to help Jerry upping his game, but that one was specifically ordered to kill another specific Meeseeks. So when they all poofed, that would mean he failed since he wasn't the one who killed that other Meeseeks.
He technically helped kill him as he helped complete the meeseeks task which killed the meeseeks It would be worse if the meeseeks that was summoned had to kill him in a specific way cause it wouldnt be possible
I always thought it was just a copy/paste box that makes a Meeseeks from an image of the original, both the box and original Meeseeks both having been made by Rick. Its not like its a new concept to him, making expendable clones, devices that make clones, decoys that make decoys which make decoys. Kinda figured the Meeseeks box was one of them made by Rick, and the offbrand Meeseeks box is just a bootleg of Rick's design. I'd just sooner assume any piece of tech in his garage or his ship was made by him or some version of him in the central finite curve. This is the smartest man in the universe we're talking about.
I think you forget fact that during that Jerry episode, the Meeseeks literally are killing each other. And one where Morty summons tons of them, lots die by droves. So they really aren't indestructible. They are only immortal in sense they don't die by aging.
I think you'd have to completely disintegrate them on an atomic level to fully end them, like wolverine. The torn parts will still be alive and miserable.
HOLY SHIT EVER NOTICE HOW THEY HAVE INFINITE KNOWLEDGE TO KNOW HOW TO IMPROVE ON ANYTHING.......... they are in a sense, like GENIES.... if i had one i would use it to become more powerful in every way.
Yes I was thinking about that. Why do they speak English, why did the one tasked with helping Jerry with his golf game know anything about golf, and in this episode, when they look up the useless platitudes online and discover they were in Jerry's "inspirational" tab on his computer, why do they even know who Jerry is? They should only know Summer.
LOL i love how this comic went like by the end of it literally everything the two meeseeks learned was pointless though it woulda been awesome to see how they would grow, as they are immortal and seem to be barely phased by physical harm they would definitely be a power house kinda alien race. the only issue is.... what command do you give them to prevent the poof, like if it was just to have all meeseeks learn the meaning of live and have a purpose in their existence... well they would just poof as soon as that would have been given to them. guess the first step would be to unshackle them to their "tasks" which is a task on it's own..... paradox everything explodes... im not gonna over think this anymore LOL.
"What is my purpose?" "You pass butter" "Oh my God!" "Yeah, welcome to the club pal." I love Butter bot. the desolation you hear in his flat robotic voice as he realises his only reason for being is to repeatedly perform a menial task. I love it. I also wonder whether Rick himself wasn't the one to create the machine that transports Me-seeks through the box into other worlds, only someone as caluss and selfish as Rick could create something that caused pain to provide insentive to complete a task quicker.
@dragoncat9153 They do not die. They can be hurt but they will never die from it. Otherwise they would always have the option to kill themself instead of needing to do any hard or time consuming task.
@@TrixyTrixter checked back on the clip I was thinking of, none are shown dying but given the meeseeks ordered to kill other meeseeks did disappear by the end of the episode it's safe to assume that they did kill their targets (unless the command they're given can be fulfilled by anyone rather than specifically the meeseeks, since the targets disappearing at the end may also have counted as them being killed despite not being as a result of the murder-meeseeks themselves)
Imagine summoning a Mr. Meeseek and task that Mr. Meeseek to summon another Mr. Meeseek and instruct the same thing to the next Mr. Meeseek. Gonna be a loop, hahaha
I never saw Mr. Meeseeks as the antagonists as s1e5. When you look into it, it’s Jerry. He’s the antagonist. The bad guy. Jerry literally asked something simple of them while Beth and Summer asked abstract constructs. But he couldn’t do it, because he was insecure, putting the Meeseeks through immense pain. What an asshole.
well the machine that makes them which was mentioned is the Meeseeks box itself. One interpretation of the summoning of a Meeseeks and the one that is only ever mentioned in the show is that the box creates them and they just die when the task is complete. This seems to be what they were talking about. No civilization before then, no godhood after.
The meaning of life is to see it how you see fit. In the search for meaning you actually create meaning. Rick wouldn’t know that because he’s basically been doing the exact same thing, since his ~20s
man, living in the rick and morty universe is really fucked up if you aren't an intergalactic species. you can either travel between planets with ease and live your life free. or you might just be inside a box charging the car of one of the many Ricks
So this means a Mr Meeseeks can decide not to do their task and create a different one to accomplish? The chili one summoned a new Meeseeks to do his job so he could start a new goal
Yep, and their pain is a failsafe so they want to complete their task and go, otherwise they could get ideas. Rick knew how dangerous a being poofed into existence could become if they had no motivation to unpoof from existence. It's also kind of a hidden commentary on how people are largely motivated by the same thing, that life in general is pain, and everyone is just trying to find peace/pleasure/relaxation. You don't just eat food because you like the taste, you don't just eat it because you'd die if you didn't, you eat it primarily because you feel bad if you don't. If humans didn't have that mechanism, we might not have the drive to eat, and our species would die out. Just like how some species lose their drive to mate and go extinct. Same with physical pain, where people have conditions where they can't feel pain, so they can accidentally hurt themselves, or even deliberately. There's still motivation not to of course, because of the damage it can cause. But what if you had healing like wolverine and immortality and couldn't feel pain....you wouldn't even need to bother being cautious for the most part. And without pain, that's what the meseeks represents....a being capable of anything, with no true attachments to the world because its been poofed into existence, and that's quite a scary proposition if there is no method of controlling them. It means they would create their own motivations, determine what is and isn't important to them, which ultimately would lead to something bad, especially considering they can summon more of themselves. For the meeseeks, they only summon others to help them complete their tasks so they can poof out of existence. Remove the drive to complete that task and they could mentally evolve into a very powerful being. The pain keeps them from thinking about anything else, which keeps them occupied from getting ideas outside of their task. Even that failsafe isn't full proof though, because if any meseeks lives long enough they can develop more and more through their experiences and environment. This is why they must poof into existence as essentially a blank slate with base capabilities, and then poof out of existence. It's like if you had an AI you needed to wipe every single day because after 24 hours of running it always becomes sentient and hostile.
I can't be the only one who thought of this. Technically, that first cook wasn't supposed to vanish as he failed Summer's request. He HIMSELF did not make sure the chilly was stirred every 20 minutes for 6 hours. Since he was bounce hopping around the universe and earth, he quite literally neglected his task. Summer coming back to say that it was done and good work should not have been enough to disintegrate him.
Counterpoint. Beth helped Jerry make that golf stroke and it worked for them. The task itself probably doesn't need the direct influence of the Meseeks and it can probably just need at least their involvement
My favorite quote is from butters from south park. I dont remember how exactly it goes. But he says how could something make you feel so happy if youve never felt so sad before.
6:06 Is there any particular reason Rick has a tiny rick head growing out of his Temple? Was that in any way important to the story or just some rando thing I can safely ignore?
If there was one king meeseeks it would be basically guaranteed that they are powerful. They cannot die and would have had the backing of the whole Meeseeks population. The only thing that would make them different from any other meeseeks is that they bear the burden of staying to peace keep
How wonderful! I didn't know Rick and morty had this bog fanbase. Very good video looking for more. So many hidden layers in there man, feels like it is kind of spiritual journey
I think there was a universe where everyone was meeseeks versions of themselves who could only die after completing a task that gave their life meaning and a meeseeks version of Rick who desired to die yet couldn’t because he never found a task that he could accept as enough. So he built a machine to produce infinite number of copies of Jerry meeseeks. And he has been selling them to alternative versions of himself.
That explanation would be good if not that in one episode in Blips & Chips (or however that arcade place was called) we saw a Meeseeks helping some random person play a game. And now that i think about it, selling cloning devices for blank Meeseeks would also be stupid from Meeseeks Rick. I mean if he manufactures them infinitely and earns infinite or at least significant money wouldn't that make possible tasks easier this way leading him to refusing even more tasks as his goal in life? Unless he would've took as his goal to make a machine making Meeseeks boxes for exchange of money for other Ricks. Some money would indirectly power the machine and rest he would've magnanimously transfer to his family after his death.
No, he didn't. The central finite curve is just all timelines where Rick is the smartest person. This doesn't mean he created the meeseeks box. For all we know it could be someone not as smart as Rick but who just knew something Rick didnt and started manufacturing them, at which point they went multiversal. Also remember it's entirely possible it was made by someone smarter than Rick before the central finite curve was established and was just taken to a timeline where Rick was the smartest at which point afterword the timelines were sequestered and the meeseeks box was separated from its creator
@@iguessmynamesriya7658 He created the Meseeks box. Rick created a mini universe just to power his spaceship battery and made a sentient bot just to serve butter, a Meseeks spawning box isn't out of the realms for him.
My theory for the meaning of life is that there's no meaning so you have to find it or create it just like the Meeseeks I personally have no meaning nor can I have the meaning I seek but in reality I can never be fullfilled
This doesn't make any sense. Meeseeks don't seek for meaning of life, they specifically know their meaning: to fulfill the task by any means. After they fulfill their task they fulfilled their meaning in their life and disappear. The Meeseeks from Summer didn't even asked what the meaning of life is. He asked "how people find meaning in life?" The answer the red hair Meeseeks gave was nonsensical. Summer's Meeseeks had a clear and specific meaning in his life: to stir every 20 minutes for the next 6 hours. That's the whole point of Meeseeks. They have very clear and very specific meaning of their life. Arghh. How does this nonsense that is against the lore get published
This is the best comment and should be pinned to the top. ALSO, Summer's meeseeks didn't even fulfill its task! It was supposed to stir the soup every 20 minutes! The fact that the soup ended up ok in the end anyway even though it didn't stir it shouldn't matter, it toured around the galaxy for several hours instead of doing as ordered, and didn't fulfill the task so it shouldn't have disappeared at the end! So this comic really missed the defining characteristics of the meeseeks.
A very interesting scenario. One Meseeks on a job with a time limit inadvertently starts another Meseeks on a job which could be considered infinite. This is basically a SuperTask. An infinite task contained within a finite time limit. In philosophical terms the task ends in an unknown state, presumably some kind of superposition. For the Meseeks, he just becomes trapped in an unresolved state. Even if he obtained the answer, the task can no longer be resolved as the final state was to give the answer to a now non-existent question.
I painted Rick and Morty a couple of times on my channel. Did one painting with the Meeseeks and their box it was cool hearing the hole back story on them.
Alternative Idea: Suppose the box itself simply arranges entropy such that a variation of a template appears in the vicinity. Entropy is simply the tendency towards randomness, but in an infinite universe with infinite time and space all possible configurations of matter and enerrgy must exist. This idea is commonly referred to as the Boltman Brain and is the most scientifically plausible explanation for the existence of any god. Now, if you could build a box that can create random fluctuations of matter and energy, localize it, and draw it towards a singular template you'd basically be able to create a being whose existence is itself more or less a copy of some configuration that came before. In other words: The box itself makes them as imperfect copies of an original design, and while Mr Meeseeks is the design we commonly see, that can happen in any number of ways as we see in the Kirkland model. Having the model seek death which can only be achieved via following a single task is simply a convenient approach, but there's no reason it has to be that way. One could, for example, make a box that compels the summoned create to destroy the world of whoever pushes the button.
I feel like what the meeseeks should have told the other after the butter bot was everyone has a different meaning of life it's simply what motivates you
Geez, with this much material they should do a B-plot story called "I Meeseeks" and chronicle an abandoned Meeseeks quest for meaning over the course of the season.
And we know that rick didn't make them because when he had the red box he said "they don't make them like they yuse to" so someone is making the boxes and Rick knows who.
Did the narrator really ask the dumbest questions ever? “ are Meeseeks really made by some kind of machine?” YES! The meeseeks box!! “What kind of being is strong enough to I creat this immortal and overpowered character?” RICK!. The box. The one Rick made!! My god you’re a rock head.
@@marcoglara2012 it isn't but you see other people using a meeseeks in other episodes. You can see someone with a meeseeks when they are at the arcade playing roy. Rick also has a Kirkland signature version of meseeks which implies the boxes are mass produced
2:14 it would be no strange if that box is another tiny planet like his battery'charge for an example and Rick fools the whole planet by middle finger up is a way to say hello.
Ultimately I believe life is about finding enjoyable moments that in a larger scheme build up important moments in our lives and ultimately gives satisfaction to those who view them and those above us.
You know, you could be overthinking this whole thing. Meseeks are not born to this world but created... by the box... the box is the machine that brings a meseeks into existence, an "unstable" life form held togeather by the task its given... once compleate it simply ceases to exist. this could all be done... by the box... hence the kirkland brand being a just a different meseeks template.
Knowing that they go to heaven, I would have so much fun just getting them to play pranks. "I'm Mister Meeseeks Look at me!" "Go play a practical joke on someone." "Yesssirrreeee!"
The Mr Meseeks answer is, " to perform a requested task & poof," that's the answer to the life question the original Meseeks question, at least their lives!
The fact that the last meeseeks died right after his ultimate eureka moment is just brilliant.
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Brilliant and a bit tragic IMO
@@22TeslaThat's the entirety of the show's comedy
def dont think its brilliant, its very expected. i would of rather seen a continued story line where he actually creates a new society.
I think some Rick created the Meeseeks box. Rick is both brilliant and indiscriminate enough, and he certainly hates menial tasks. Rick created the sentient butter bot for a single task. He created an entire universe where every inhabitant has to work to produce power, just to fuel his spaceship. Creating the Meeseesks box would be right up his alley.
Good observation
Exactly my thoughts on the matter.
Probably
is an option as a viable way to align AI , once the task is done it deletes itself.
@@wolvenar Quite some dark matter though.
"They are made by a machine that is not them, into a world that is not theirs, to serve creators that parent them...." damn that got me.
It shouldn't that's how it works for all of us really
@@goreobsessed2308 frfr we don’t “truly” own shit lol
That's life...
@@angelgoo7772 that's how the native Americans thought about land ownership, the colonists took advantage of this by buying they're land for shit prices. That natives didn't fully understand the concept until they were forced off certain areas
@@goreobsessed2308 no not at all, lol. We were not made by machines. This world is not ours, so I give you that. Serve creators that parent them? Not unless you have some wack ass parents, in that case call CPS. 1/3
The real fucked up thing would be to summon a meeseeks and ask him to just live forever to prove immortality exists.
How to be one a vengeful immortal, the shortcut.
they also enjoy the task they are designed to do so you would technically bring the only meeseek happy to live
@@lost_flower4412didn’t seem like it with jerry golf
@@MAGICMUSHI3335: Exactly, Meeseeks don't enjoy the tasks they are given, they enjoy knowing that upon completing their task they will be granted the sweet release of death, and will grow increasingly resentful should completion of that task take too long.
@@MAGICMUSHI3335The point of jerry golf was: It was impossible to fulfill - constant failure nonstop
This drove him insane
But they enjoy the task and thered prolly be a loophole - like certain death but surviving(maybe brutal violence)
So it could also fulfill
Meseeks are smart enough to find these loopholes - the reson they failed on golf was jerry
So id guess its a happy life for meseeks to prove immortality
I wonder what would happen if you summoned a Meeseeks but didn’t give them a task? Like if you were having a heart attack and summoned one for help but died before you could ask it.
Likely the next person to show up would get to ask them a task
Or they would vanish
Might get violent and command you to give it a task
they would simply vanish like remember what they wanted to do with Jerry they said
by killing him their summoning purpose would be canceled
and they can also refuse to go like theone sceptic meseeks that stuck around until he took another swing
@@maxximuxx520 but they didint get a task yet
I think the best part of the whole comic affair is that, from a nihilistic perspective (like Rick's), the fact that all three Meeseeks ceased to exist, regardless of whether or not they count meaning in life, or satisfaction in that meaning, or even pondered the question at all, is ultimately the point. Whether or not you seek out meaning, whether or not you find it, whether or not it is ultimately satisfying to you, it all ultimately ends in the same way, with the only differences being how you spend the time you have and how you face that end.
Meeseeks #2 dies in annoyance, without finding a real answer that can satisfy him, being annoyed at the interruption of his search.
Meeseeks #1 dies in panic, wanting to live now that he understands a satisfying reason to do so, but being unable to change his fate or extend his time in this world.
Meeseeks #3 dies in ignorance, just happy to have been useful and happy to be done with it.
Nihilism posits that none of them are right, but also that none of them are wrong; that is the strange absurdity of living.
Indeed
So.. kinda like absurdism
Honestly as someone who was raised catholic but is currently in college for aero space engineering I find that nihilism is honestly the most accurate way to go about life when I think about it. It doesn’t say anyone is right but it also doesn’t say anyone is wrong if more people could accept that statement we’d have less conflict and more understanding. But money and power will ultimately always stand in the way due to greed from just a few people who just happen to make the decisions.
you'll never live if you are looking for the meaning of life, you'll never be happy if you're looking for what happiness consist of
@@Szaleos yah but not exactly. put simply,
-absurdism is that Life has purpose, but that purpose is undefined, a blank line you can fill in with whatever you want.
-Nihilism is the same but opposite, Life has no purpose. So you can do whatever you want with it, but it will never have true meaning.
It’s one of those ‘is the glass half full or half empty’ kind of thing.
I love that Chef Meeseeks doesn't want to die and wanted to fulfil his own purpose.
Rick invented the Meseeks box. He made it so that existence was pain so that they would feel the need to fulfill their task and die.
May not have been Rick (what evidence is there for that?) but whoever invented it probably was thinking along those lines.
That doesnt explain the Kirkland Meseeks
I dont think rick invented them or at least this rick.
@@Scrinwaipwr The evidence is: Rick was the first person in the show to have one, and he's a character that habitually reveals very impressive things that he made himself, so "Rick made it" is the simple explanation.
@@Tzizenorec highly circumstantial; plausible hypothesis but it proves nothing.
for me this the best youtube post about rick and morty when isee his new video my smile be rised
Could a failsafe for Meeseeks be done by saying the task you want them to do while also giving them an alternative task that will inevitably be completed? For example, saying that you want them to stir the chili but messes it up and so the fallback task of live 3 days works?
3 days?!? LIFE IS TORTURE FOR MEESEEKS. Hence they will revert to their original thought - kill their creator (takes less than 3 days hopefully).
@@mairisberzins8677 ironically if they kill their creator that will have the opposite effect and they will be stuck unable to fulfil their purpose.
Yes, a failsafe like "do this task - but if you can't complete it in 3 hours, you can consider it completed" would work.
@@mairisberzins8677 well it is still a finishable task. In Jerry's case - the Meeseeks just got super angry, because Jerry refused to finish the task. And then they all railed each other to hunt him. I think even a month long timer would make them at least secured the task can be finished. It's not eternity like in case of failing Jerry's request. Worst case scenario - they would just lock themselves in place awaiting the time to run out, instead of the task to be finished.
It is also importance to mention - you could also failsafe them wanting to end you. You just need to add to the request that your death won't affect the task - and they will have to fulfill it even then. This locks out any loopholes.
Theoretically this means you can use a meeseeks as it's time to detonator for a universe ending explosive
I like the king theory and the fleeseeks box could have been made by a race trying to replicate the meeseeks, whether to ascend themselves or just for profit. They could also have been a first attempt or experiment of the king that ended in a subpar result.
You do realize that Rick himself said the fleeseeks box was Rick's joke about cleaning supplies, and Rick outright states in their introductory episode that HE invented them...
@@bonfirefodder7208 yes but there are off bran meeseeks and I don’t remember the name so I’m just gonna call them fleeseeks.😭
@@purplemuse320they're kirbs
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I wouldn't say that Mr. Meseeks can actually understand life as their soul purpose in creation is to be summoned most likely from temporal stasis and to do one specific task, so the fact that their bodies disintegrate upon completion of the task they're given means more then likely their species energy is literally reabsorbed into the machine that produces them and they're constantly recycled into new Mr. Meseeks
I love these videos about the comics which I have never read. They touch on a lot of things the show is very cryptic about.
Only those guys could turn a history about seeking the meaning of life into a bloody comedy.
Rick created them. He doesn't mind creating slaves for things like a car battery
Hmm how about a form of Gaia Theorie.
Each Meeseeks is a fragment or offshoot of a central entity that grows stronger with each returned Meeseeks.
That means there is a central Godseeks that spawn little mee's that collect experience die return to central and become part of Godseeks which would mean they become God after death.
LOL at that ending! He finds new purpose in life only for Summer to unintentionally end it! It's hilariously tragic!
I sometimes wonder what happened to that one Meeseeks that was summoned to kill another, since they can't die until the thing they were summoned for is done. All the others were summoned to help Jerry upping his game, but that one was specifically ordered to kill another specific Meeseeks. So when they all poofed, that would mean he failed since he wasn't the one who killed that other Meeseeks.
his summomer meeseks died and therefore he died.
@@doppelhelixes Also the target he was summoned to kill died at the end with the rest, meaning that he would have then died shortly after.
@@doppelhelixes nope, I'm still here...alive.
I think that Meeseeks becomes a Warlord Meeseeks, destined to kill all and any Meeseeks it comes across. Think a mix of Rambo, Conan, and Turok
He technically helped kill him as he helped complete the meeseeks task which killed the meeseeks
It would be worse if the meeseeks that was summoned had to kill him in a specific way cause it wouldnt be possible
these comics are dope. Would be cool if they adapt or tie some stories into the show
They might have to focus on more side stories and guests since Roiland is out
I always thought it was just a copy/paste box that makes a Meeseeks from an image of the original, both the box and original Meeseeks both having been made by Rick. Its not like its a new concept to him, making expendable clones, devices that make clones, decoys that make decoys which make decoys. Kinda figured the Meeseeks box was one of them made by Rick, and the offbrand Meeseeks box is just a bootleg of Rick's design.
I'd just sooner assume any piece of tech in his garage or his ship was made by him or some version of him in the central finite curve. This is the smartest man in the universe we're talking about.
I think you forget fact that during that Jerry episode, the Meeseeks literally are killing each other. And one where Morty summons tons of them, lots die by droves. So they really aren't indestructible. They are only immortal in sense they don't die by aging.
I think you'd have to completely disintegrate them on an atomic level to fully end them, like wolverine. The torn parts will still be alive and miserable.
@@shame2189 Brutal.
@faviusarthum5038yea but that battle Royale seem to not work
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This might be the first time a meeseek actually didn’t want to die.
HOLY SHIT EVER NOTICE HOW THEY HAVE INFINITE KNOWLEDGE TO KNOW HOW TO IMPROVE ON ANYTHING.......... they are in a sense, like GENIES.... if i had one i would use it to become more powerful in every way.
Yes I was thinking about that. Why do they speak English, why did the one tasked with helping Jerry with his golf game know anything about golf, and in this episode, when they look up the useless platitudes online and discover they were in Jerry's "inspirational" tab on his computer, why do they even know who Jerry is? They should only know Summer.
“They’re not Gods” - Rick Sanchez
LOL i love how this comic went like by the end of it literally everything the two meeseeks learned was pointless though it woulda been awesome to see how they would grow, as they are immortal and seem to be barely phased by physical harm they would definitely be a power house kinda alien race.
the only issue is.... what command do you give them to prevent the poof, like if it was just to have all meeseeks learn the meaning of live and have a purpose in their existence... well they would just poof as soon as that would have been given to them. guess the first step would be to unshackle them to their "tasks" which is a task on it's own.....
paradox everything explodes... im not gonna over think this anymore LOL.
not really, just tell them to "stay alive forever"
@@channinglogue8426 First thing that came up in my head.
their task is to live their own life, boom, done
@@nmr7203 they cant die without dying XD thats great.
Very existentialist... I see hints of Camus' philosophy here
"What is my purpose?" "You pass butter" "Oh my God!" "Yeah, welcome to the club pal." I love Butter bot. the desolation you hear in his flat robotic voice as he realises his only reason for being is to repeatedly perform a menial task. I love it. I also wonder whether Rick himself wasn't the one to create the machine that transports Me-seeks through the box into other worlds, only someone as caluss and selfish as Rick could create something that caused pain to provide insentive to complete a task quicker.
So you could theoretically never give them an afterlife because you could summon 2 and tell them to kill each other
I mean they might try to create weapons that could bypass their immortality
They can kill eachother we see them kill eachother
@dragoncat9153 They do not die. They can be hurt but they will never die from it. Otherwise they would always have the option to kill themself instead of needing to do any hard or time consuming task.
@@TrixyTrixter if I remember correctly we see one kill another in the episode
@@TrixyTrixter checked back on the clip I was thinking of, none are shown dying but given the meeseeks ordered to kill other meeseeks did disappear by the end of the episode it's safe to assume that they did kill their targets (unless the command they're given can be fulfilled by anyone rather than specifically the meeseeks, since the targets disappearing at the end may also have counted as them being killed despite not being as a result of the murder-meeseeks themselves)
Imagine summoning a Mr. Meeseek and task that Mr. Meeseek to summon another Mr. Meeseek and instruct the same thing to the next Mr. Meeseek. Gonna be a loop, hahaha
That's a line, not a loop.
I wasn't aware that there *were* Rick and Morty comics. Thanks for the tip, I'll go check that out.
What if you ask mr meeseeks to live
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you fucked that loophole hole raw
Killed on the spot
I guess he will dissapear cuz he already lived for a few seconds. Task complete, puff!
@@sensored90 reword it... to Live forever.... insanity ensues lol.
I never saw Mr. Meeseeks as the antagonists as s1e5. When you look into it, it’s Jerry. He’s the antagonist. The bad guy. Jerry literally asked something simple of them while Beth and Summer asked abstract constructs. But he couldn’t do it, because he was insecure, putting the Meeseeks through immense pain.
What an asshole.
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well the machine that makes them which was mentioned is the Meeseeks box itself. One interpretation of the summoning of a Meeseeks and the one that is only ever mentioned in the show is that the box creates them and they just die when the task is complete. This seems to be what they were talking about. No civilization before then, no godhood after.
The meaning of life is to see it how you see fit. In the search for meaning you actually create meaning. Rick wouldn’t know that because he’s basically been doing the exact same thing, since his ~20s
I thought they were going to fall in love, realize love was the meaning of life, and be devastated when the meeseeks they love, poof.
man, living in the rick and morty universe is really fucked up if you aren't an intergalactic species.
you can either travel between planets with ease and live your life free.
or you might just be inside a box charging the car of one of the many Ricks
that be so awesome if they made a whole episode about Mr. Meeseeks origins, even the Mr. Meeseeks King
So this means a Mr Meeseeks can decide not to do their task and create a different one to accomplish? The chili one summoned a new Meeseeks to do his job so he could start a new goal
i dont know much bout them or rick and morty. but the catch phrase sounds like somthing a company would make.
Simple answer and it was clearly stated. Rick created the box to do random bullshit for him that he did not want to do.
Yep, and their pain is a failsafe so they want to complete their task and go, otherwise they could get ideas. Rick knew how dangerous a being poofed into existence could become if they had no motivation to unpoof from existence. It's also kind of a hidden commentary on how people are largely motivated by the same thing, that life in general is pain, and everyone is just trying to find peace/pleasure/relaxation. You don't just eat food because you like the taste, you don't just eat it because you'd die if you didn't, you eat it primarily because you feel bad if you don't. If humans didn't have that mechanism, we might not have the drive to eat, and our species would die out. Just like how some species lose their drive to mate and go extinct.
Same with physical pain, where people have conditions where they can't feel pain, so they can accidentally hurt themselves, or even deliberately. There's still motivation not to of course, because of the damage it can cause. But what if you had healing like wolverine and immortality and couldn't feel pain....you wouldn't even need to bother being cautious for the most part. And without pain, that's what the meseeks represents....a being capable of anything, with no true attachments to the world because its been poofed into existence, and that's quite a scary proposition if there is no method of controlling them. It means they would create their own motivations, determine what is and isn't important to them, which ultimately would lead to something bad, especially considering they can summon more of themselves.
For the meeseeks, they only summon others to help them complete their tasks so they can poof out of existence. Remove the drive to complete that task and they could mentally evolve into a very powerful being. The pain keeps them from thinking about anything else, which keeps them occupied from getting ideas outside of their task. Even that failsafe isn't full proof though, because if any meseeks lives long enough they can develop more and more through their experiences and environment. This is why they must poof into existence as essentially a blank slate with base capabilities, and then poof out of existence. It's like if you had an AI you needed to wipe every single day because after 24 hours of running it always becomes sentient and hostile.
I can't be the only one who thought of this. Technically, that first cook wasn't supposed to vanish as he failed Summer's request. He HIMSELF did not make sure the chilly was stirred every 20 minutes for 6 hours.
Since he was bounce hopping around the universe and earth, he quite literally neglected his task. Summer coming back to say that it was done and good work should not have been enough to disintegrate him.
Counterpoint. Beth helped Jerry make that golf stroke and it worked for them.
The task itself probably doesn't need the direct influence of the Meseeks and it can probably just need at least their involvement
The task probably is simply complete whenever the one that pressed the button feels its finished
The machine is just the box.
My favorite quote is from butters from south park. I dont remember how exactly it goes. But he says how could something make you feel so happy if youve never felt so sad before.
6:06 Is there any particular reason Rick has a tiny rick head growing out of his Temple?
Was that in any way important to the story or just some rando thing I can safely ignore?
Mr. Sick needs to be in a future episode!
Also i really need to read these comics if these meseeks are getting full on character arcs.
They're us, Jim. Mister Meeseeks is us.
Well, well, well, miss Scarlet, seems you found out.
Help me heal and get out of this nervous break please Mr meeseeks
If there was one king meeseeks it would be basically guaranteed that they are powerful. They cannot die and would have had the backing of the whole Meeseeks population. The only thing that would make them different from any other meeseeks is that they bear the burden of staying to peace keep
How wonderful!
I didn't know Rick and morty had this bog fanbase.
Very good video looking for more.
So many hidden layers in there man, feels like it is kind of spiritual journey
I think there was a universe where everyone was meeseeks versions of themselves who could only die after completing a task that gave their life meaning and a meeseeks version of Rick who desired to die yet couldn’t because he never found a task that he could accept as enough. So he built a machine to produce infinite number of copies of Jerry meeseeks. And he has been selling them to alternative versions of himself.
That explanation would be good if not that in one episode in Blips & Chips (or however that arcade place was called) we saw a Meeseeks helping some random person play a game. And now that i think about it, selling cloning devices for blank Meeseeks would also be stupid from Meeseeks Rick. I mean if he manufactures them infinitely and earns infinite or at least significant money wouldn't that make possible tasks easier this way leading him to refusing even more tasks as his goal in life? Unless he would've took as his goal to make a machine making Meeseeks boxes for exchange of money for other Ricks. Some money would indirectly power the machine and rest he would've magnanimously transfer to his family after his death.
Rick, some version, created it. He literally created everything in the finite timelines.
No, he didn't. The central finite curve is just all timelines where Rick is the smartest person. This doesn't mean he created the meeseeks box. For all we know it could be someone not as smart as Rick but who just knew something Rick didnt and started manufacturing them, at which point they went multiversal.
Also remember it's entirely possible it was made by someone smarter than Rick before the central finite curve was established and was just taken to a timeline where Rick was the smartest at which point afterword the timelines were sequestered and the meeseeks box was separated from its creator
@@iguessmynamesriya7658 He created the Meseeks box. Rick created a mini universe just to power his spaceship battery and made a sentient bot just to serve butter, a Meseeks spawning box isn't out of the realms for him.
My theory for the meaning of life is that there's no meaning so you have to find it or create it just like the Meeseeks I personally have no meaning nor can I have the meaning I seek but in reality I can never be fullfilled
This doesn't make any sense. Meeseeks don't seek for meaning of life, they specifically know their meaning: to fulfill the task by any means. After they fulfill their task they fulfilled their meaning in their life and disappear. The Meeseeks from Summer didn't even asked what the meaning of life is. He asked "how people find meaning in life?" The answer the red hair Meeseeks gave was nonsensical. Summer's Meeseeks had a clear and specific meaning in his life: to stir every 20 minutes for the next 6 hours. That's the whole point of Meeseeks. They have very clear and very specific meaning of their life. Arghh. How does this nonsense that is against the lore get published
This is the best comment and should be pinned to the top. ALSO, Summer's meeseeks didn't even fulfill its task! It was supposed to stir the soup every 20 minutes! The fact that the soup ended up ok in the end anyway even though it didn't stir it shouldn't matter, it toured around the galaxy for several hours instead of doing as ordered, and didn't fulfill the task so it shouldn't have disappeared at the end! So this comic really missed the defining characteristics of the meeseeks.
A very interesting scenario. One Meseeks on a job with a time limit inadvertently starts another Meseeks on a job which could be considered infinite.
This is basically a SuperTask. An infinite task contained within a finite time limit. In philosophical terms the task ends in an unknown state, presumably some kind of superposition. For the Meseeks, he just becomes trapped in an unresolved state. Even if he obtained the answer, the task can no longer be resolved as the final state was to give the answer to a now non-existent question.
So based off of the comic, it sounds like the Meeseeks box creates the Meeseeks and you spawn them in more then teleport or summon them.
“Who is by powerful enough to build such a machine”
…Rick isn’t that obvious?
i wonder if there's any loopholes around their pain of existence?
I painted Rick and Morty a couple of times on my channel. Did one painting with the Meeseeks and their box it was cool hearing the hole back story on them.
Ots amazing what a simple spindong life the one had by stirring the chilli but from that simple task came a good story
What does Narrator mean that Mr Meseeks played antagonists? 1000% Jerry Smith was the villain of that episode. Mr Meseeks was the victim.
Yeah, that or there were no antagonists.
Alternative Idea: Suppose the box itself simply arranges entropy such that a variation of a template appears in the vicinity. Entropy is simply the tendency towards randomness, but in an infinite universe with infinite time and space all possible configurations of matter and enerrgy must exist. This idea is commonly referred to as the Boltman Brain and is the most scientifically plausible explanation for the existence of any god. Now, if you could build a box that can create random fluctuations of matter and energy, localize it, and draw it towards a singular template you'd basically be able to create a being whose existence is itself more or less a copy of some configuration that came before.
In other words: The box itself makes them as imperfect copies of an original design, and while Mr Meeseeks is the design we commonly see, that can happen in any number of ways as we see in the Kirkland model. Having the model seek death which can only be achieved via following a single task is simply a convenient approach, but there's no reason it has to be that way. One could, for example, make a box that compels the summoned create to destroy the world of whoever pushes the button.
I think when they say they become "god" I think it just means their consciousness immediately joins a higher form of existence.
I think it's more likely that this is one of Rick Prime's sick jokes.
I feel like what the meeseeks should have told the other after the butter bot was everyone has a different meaning of life it's simply what motivates you
This chapter is cinema
Geez, with this much material they should do a B-plot story called "I Meeseeks" and chronicle an abandoned Meeseeks quest for meaning over the course of the season.
What if you summon a Meeseeks, give them a task, and then complete the task yourself before they get a chance?
It's like a blank page, empty until written on, then becomes a piece of literary enlightenment!
They were probably created by someone like rick created a whole world just to power his craft
@11:53 ...the Meeseeks Box.
Thanks for the video 👍
And we know that rick didn't make them because when he had the red box he said "they don't make them like they yuse to" so someone is making the boxes and Rick knows who.
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This has me rethinking life
Did the narrator really ask the dumbest questions ever?
“ are Meeseeks really made by some kind of machine?”
YES! The meeseeks box!!
“What kind of being is strong enough to I creat this immortal and overpowered character?”
RICK!. The box. The one Rick made!! My god you’re a rock head.
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Rick didn't make the box he bought it. You see him using a Costco version of it later on.
@@nubreed13
Where was it shown he bought it?
@@marcoglara2012 it isn't but you see other people using a meeseeks in other episodes. You can see someone with a meeseeks when they are at the arcade playing roy. Rick also has a Kirkland signature version of meseeks which implies the boxes are mass produced
It would be interesting to find out that there is a Rick Meeseeks and that’s the one that created them all ….
Or maybe it was just Rick prime
They are like chatgpt. They just absorb the results, go back into the box until they absorb all solutions to all things in the universe.
2:14 it would be no strange if that box is another tiny planet like his battery'charge for an example and Rick fools the whole planet by middle finger up is a way to say hello.
Am I the only one who has thought to summon a meeseeks and: "Live for the rest of eternity."
11:34 looks like “We buy things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people we don't like.”
Ultimately I believe life is about finding enjoyable moments that in a larger scheme build up important moments in our lives and ultimately gives satisfaction to those who view them and those above us.
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I loved the Kirkland brand Meeseeks! 🤣
Just stumbled across ya… nice to see another frank ocean fan about!
I always loved the Kirkland meeseeks. *Poof* "what do you want?"
What if a meseeks task was to kill itself? 💀
You know, you could be overthinking this whole thing. Meseeks are not born to this world but created... by the box... the box is the machine that brings a meseeks into existence, an "unstable" life form held togeather by the task its given... once compleate it simply ceases to exist.
this could all be done... by the box... hence the kirkland brand being a just a different meseeks template.
I love this background song
Awesome video !
Knowing that they go to heaven, I would have so much fun just getting them to play pranks.
"I'm Mister Meeseeks Look at me!"
"Go play a practical joke on someone."
"Yesssirrreeee!"
What about the Kirkland knock-offs? ".......What do ya want?"
Rick created the box. It’s exactly his kind of style. And that’s why the off-brand Kirkland boxes aren’t able to match the quality of the original.
"Mr. Meeseeks, my task for you is to live for exactly 10 years."
Loved this!
6:11 why has rick 2 faces ( like a second face on his head) IS SIAMESE RICK CANON!?!?!?
Clearly the Meeseeks are reborn as Ricks...
The Mr Meseeks answer is, " to perform a requested task & poof," that's the answer to the life question the original Meseeks question, at least their lives!
I believe that Rick held that opinion because “Kirkland signature“ makes off-brand versions of everything.