Horizon Forbidden West: 7 Tiny Ways it’s Massively Better than Zero Dawn

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • PlayStation gave us Horizon Forbidden West to play before release, and here's our review: it's brilliant, but the BEST things are these little changes from Horizon Zero Dawn...
    Horizon Forbidden West comes to the PS4 and PS5 on the 18th February 2022.
    Forbidden West gameplay recorded pre-Day One patch.
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  • @markbade565
    @markbade565 2 года назад +320

    Ellen's frustrated scream is so relatable. I feel your pain. But what was almost as infuriating was actually hunting the goods to get the golden pack. What do you mean this fox doesn't have any skin?!?!

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 2 года назад +18

      _Lord of the Rings Online:_ kill and (automatically) skin dozens of Cun Annun, Wolves, Wargs, Boars and Bears, one particularly inconvenient Badger and an unlucky Stag; arrive in camp; meet NPC; sympathise with NPC about how cold it is up here and how nice it'd be to have some Warg hides to keep them warm; go back out to kill and (manually) skin a dozen more Wargs. I have a pack full of furs, skins and hides, sometimes two different hides and a skin from the same kill, and this guy wants a dozen of the _other_ outer layer of a warg?

    • @Chris_Sizemore
      @Chris_Sizemore 2 года назад +26

      Me: Your fox pelt.
      Merchant: That poor animal. I can't use this pitiful excuse of a rag. I need a fox pelt in good condition.
      Me: Well, I mean all the weapons I use are meant to tear metal to pieces.
      Merchant: Most hunters use traps to catch fox.
      Me: [holds up a charred blackened pelt]
      Merchant: Cage trap.
      Me: Oh! huh. You sell cage traps?
      Merchant: The door is over there. Try not to break it on the way out.

    • @tyvirus1
      @tyvirus1 2 года назад +11

      I'm replaying Zero Dawn currently and nothing has bones. Not Fish, Not boars,... turkeys do but i dont need many of thoses

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle 2 года назад +3

      @@tyvirus1 Bones I can get. Wights in Garth Agarwen and Angmar drop [Decrepit Finger Bone] "This item can be sold to merchants." What the heck the merchants do with them I don't know. Maybe they grind them up, mix them with the tiny fish that can't be used in cooking and sell them back to us as fertiliser.

    • @526235680
      @526235680 2 года назад +5

      I got the golden pack right away as soon as it appears with the merchants and I had plenty of resources for it. The reason for that was I never used fast travel even once for about half of the game as I was clearing out all the campfires ignoring all the quests for some reason and killing and hoarding everything in the process :P

  • @boomyfuzzball2675
    @boomyfuzzball2675 2 года назад +69

    I would like to add, i also absolutely love they overhauled Cauldrons and Tallnecks. Instead of being incredibly repetitive, most of them now have a twist or uniqueness to them that really makes doing them stand out and interesting.

    • @wibkesworld3208
      @wibkesworld3208 2 года назад +1

      True

    • @Nimajneb42069
      @Nimajneb42069 2 года назад +1

      I feel like this with the side quests too…

    • @Slipknot4769
      @Slipknot4769 2 года назад +1

      Very true!

    • @WillSinks
      @WillSinks Год назад +1

      I just did Iota last night and was just like 😮😮😮😮😮 the whole time. Didn’t realize they had it in em!

    • @eh.101
      @eh.101 Год назад +1

      not with the sunwing not really

  • @tamago2474
    @tamago2474 2 года назад +347

    This is such a great video idea - I'm playing through Zero Dawn right now and keep mentioning quality of life changes I'm wishing for in the sequel. Literally cheering each time you mention a new improvement 😄

    • @outsidextra
      @outsidextra  2 года назад +94

      Honestly, recently decided to Platinum Zero Dawn in prep for the new one and as soon as I started playing Forbidden West I got just as, if not more, excited for this stuff as the new story and bigger improvements. I was so happy whenever I discovered a new little change! - E

    • @timothyoswald8618
      @timothyoswald8618 2 года назад +4

      Going to start a replay of HZD after getting the last trophy of Gravity Rush 2... the hype is real! Can't wait to get my shiny hands on Forbidden West.

    • @tommctear4672
      @tommctear4672 2 года назад +2

      SAME! These changes sound brilliant, not only will they make things more smooth but they will help save so much time! Not sure who was squeeing more while I watched this, me or Ellen lol

    • @nikolaipersad4098
      @nikolaipersad4098 2 года назад +1

      💯 THIS!!!

    • @kurtisgonzales37
      @kurtisgonzales37 2 года назад +1

      I'm in a thread that keep randomly updating the days and hours left until it's release. 😆 Got it on pre-order already lol

  • @jlnrdeep
    @jlnrdeep 2 года назад +299

    This is how you do a proper sequel, revamp all the main systems and do a lot of quality of life improvements, kudos to Guerrilla games for their awesome work.

    • @chaoticstarfish3401
      @chaoticstarfish3401 2 года назад +8

      @@frankgrimes7388 I mean, that's just how these games go

    • @joshconfer209
      @joshconfer209 2 года назад +11

      Agreed 100% jlnrdeep. It's really nice to see a developer go in the other direction and actually try to make the game experience more accessible instead of chasing the difficulty/cashgrab curve and telling you git gud or don't play. It's a very rare thoughtful approach that newer games seem to be missing.

    • @bustinarant
      @bustinarant 2 года назад +7

      @@frankgrimes7388 Have you *forgotten* the robot dinosaurs and elaborate traps?

    • @Kris-wo4pj
      @Kris-wo4pj 2 года назад +2

      @@frankgrimes7388 so just like assassins creed, elder scrolls, fallout, far cry, rdr, gta, and all open world role-playing games cuz ubisoft ruined the genre? Which bleed into all action adventure games only now its only a sandbox or linear like fallen order, uncharted, hitman and every other games like them. Welcome to gaming. It's either a generic collector, indie or a generic shooter. It all has collecting in it and it's all full of crafting bs.

    • @tyleroutland435
      @tyleroutland435 2 года назад +3

      @@Kris-wo4pj horzion forbidden west will be one of the best games this year so I don't know what you mean 😂

  • @apg13997
    @apg13997 2 года назад +107

    That Glinthawk kill was very satisfying to watch. The best kind of encouragement for buying this game, and that is indeed saying a lot.

    • @outsidextra
      @outsidextra  2 года назад +31

      Even more satisfying to pull off. I almost screamed with joy at it. Just an excited "aaaaaaaAAAAAaHHHH" haha - E

    • @glengreer9614
      @glengreer9614 2 года назад +6

      Seriously, I fuccin HATE glinthawks. I was quietly cheering in my cubicle

    • @Toasteeei
      @Toasteeei 2 года назад +6

      @@glengreer9614 seriously those fuccin ice projectile were annoying as hell

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 2 года назад +2

      @@Toasteeei not to mention trying to hit their weakspot because you needed what they drop...

    • @TheTraveler980
      @TheTraveler980 2 года назад

      DEATH TO THE GLINTHAWKS!

  • @ChocolatierRob
    @ChocolatierRob 2 года назад +175

    Sorry Nel, but golden fast travel packs aren’t the only thing you missed in the Zero Dawn. Creating jobs to find resources was in the first game too. Though it sounds a little more streamlined this time you could create jobs and get guided to machine parts (but not animal parts).

    • @brandonwithnell612
      @brandonwithnell612 2 года назад +20

      it highlighting the animals in yur focus is a huge improvement too

    • @Olanimates
      @Olanimates 2 года назад +8

      Yeah it's much better now. Killing 50 scrappers before one finally dropped a heart was gruesome work so this is really a welcome improvement

    • @cmacinnis
      @cmacinnis 2 года назад +5

      50? I poop Scrapper Hearts. She missed the wooly mammoth in the lodge; how god-awful the platforming is by comparison to Zero Dawn. Also, FUCK machine muscle. Shards, element, string is JUST fine. Had to ruin it with machine muscle.
      Getting the Override in ZD takes all of 2 MAYBE 3 hours. Just enough time to learn the games mechanics and whatnot.
      If it [override] WASN'T in the beginning of FW, it would be like a MMX2 where X can't dash or wall climb

    • @shawngillogly6873
      @shawngillogly6873 2 года назад +3

      Highlighting animals is new. The rest was all HZD functionality. I used resource jobs all the time in the 1st game.

    • @KavalanSol
      @KavalanSol 2 года назад +2

      @@brandonwithnell612 was also in the first game.

  • @navtektv
    @navtektv 2 года назад +61

    Thanks for the Lance Reddick appreciation, that man isn't recognised enough in my opinion. I have enjoyed each and every one of his roles ever since I first saw him play Phillip Broyles in Fringe.

    • @dangerousspaces9371
      @dangerousspaces9371 2 года назад +6

      YES! I first saw him in Lost but he was AWESOME in Fringe. Great in John Wick as well. Seriously there is something incredibly unique about him and his performances. I know it sounds weird but he can almost come across as otherwordly.

    • @christophermire3872
      @christophermire3872 2 года назад +2

      I think in time he'll be right up there with James Earl Jones and Keith Davis.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 2 года назад +3

      He is literally my Morgan Freeman.
      He was awesome in Fringe. Immediately had to look him up the first time I met him.

    • @313soldier313
      @313soldier313 2 года назад +1

      You should see him in The wire. Another great performance

    • @SomewhatSlightlyBored
      @SomewhatSlightlyBored 2 года назад +1

      TOYS 'R' MEEE!!!

  • @oscarclark8502
    @oscarclark8502 2 года назад +52

    Man, that golden fast travel pack would've been nice to know about. Guess it's a good thing I loved riding through the world so much

    • @outsidextra
      @outsidextra  2 года назад +34

      I stumbled across it in a google search for something else and I nearly cried - E

    • @swj719
      @swj719 2 года назад +10

      @@outsidextra I discovered it at some rando merchant, and I was like "HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN A THING?!?"
      It is very good I couldn't rought people up in the first game. I was incandescent with rage, since I was maybe 3 hours from finishing the game.

    • @ivorydeluxe1672
      @ivorydeluxe1672 2 года назад +6

      You guys wishing you knew about it sooner and here I am, knew all about it but never used it because I'm not fond of fast travel: 👁👄👁

    • @leonardquirm
      @leonardquirm 2 года назад +3

      I don't think I ever fast-travelled in my first play-through until I was doing collectables clean-up after the ending, simply because I loved existing in the world and trusted it'd reward me with enjoyable encounters if I made the actual journeys. But yeah, if I hadn't stockpiled the things before starting New Game+ a limited supply of Fast Travel packs would have got really annoying fast!

    • @lobsterbobby4718
      @lobsterbobby4718 2 года назад +1

      Im so sorry that noone apperently knew about it

  • @frodobaggins7710
    @frodobaggins7710 2 года назад +21

    As much as I enjoyed HZD, I'm so glad a lot of the inventory stuff has been streamlined for Forbidden West. Especially being able to just send stuff to the stash, that makes my little "collect everything" brain very happy

  • @phonecallsarejustoverquali1556
    @phonecallsarejustoverquali1556 2 года назад +37

    Slo-mo features in combat in games could merit a video all to itself. Many actiony games are just so fast and flashy these days. Sometimes a bit of time dilation is actually necessary for you to even appreciate what is going on and enjoy the quality of the animation.
    Or is it just me?

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 2 года назад +1

      I love it when I can get slomo in action games. Especially shooters.

    • @slipstream7324
      @slipstream7324 2 года назад

      nah, slo mo is a crutch. never use it, makes the game too easy

    • @amidamaru4414
      @amidamaru4414 Год назад +3

      @@slipstream7324 some of us want an easy game. Not everyone needs a challenge to enjoy something.

  • @jurg4697
    @jurg4697 2 года назад +27

    The inventory change is honestly enough for me to want the game lol. In Zero Dawn there were so many times I'd have to either drop a bunch of stuff or waste a fast travel pack in order to get to a merchant

    • @shaheerjazbhay1717
      @shaheerjazbhay1717 2 года назад +1

      For real, that change alone sold me more than any marketing for this game (granted, I was gonna buy it anyway, how could I not)

    • @526235680
      @526235680 2 года назад

      Not to mention the ridge wood stashes which hog the inventory slots that nobody wants

    • @zensoredparagonbytes3985
      @zensoredparagonbytes3985 2 года назад +2

      In HZD big machines dropped loot boxes with resources in them. You could open them and break them down. Resources then went to your crafting inventory. Or you could hold on to them till you needed those crafting resources. I don't remember exactly how much of those loot boxes you could hold on to but I never ran out of crafting resources. And I barely fast travelled in HZD, except for the rare parts for upgrading. It took me over 130 hrs for the 1st playthrough and 100%.

    • @eventhorizon2873
      @eventhorizon2873 2 года назад

      This....

    • @1993rnicholson
      @1993rnicholson Год назад +1

      @@zensoredparagonbytes3985 yeah id save all those loot boxes they were stupid useful

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin 2 года назад +4

    My two favorite additions are the Stash and how machines now drop specific machine parts that you can use to craft. Those are two awesome changes! And the better climbing & gliding is of course nice too.

  • @tacklebox_82
    @tacklebox_82 2 года назад +4

    I also love the option to keep all climbable paths highlighted. It helps a lot.

  • @heatherwills3404
    @heatherwills3404 2 года назад +4

    My favorite part about HFW is that they had a good handle on what made the first game so compelling and they just gave you more of it. They focused on small teaks to enrich the experience without trying to reinvent the wheel. Though I'm not going to lie, I'm drowning in weapons and armor and I want to use all of them! So many outfits!!

  • @xfakexaxon6216
    @xfakexaxon6216 2 года назад +2

    The golden fast travel pack was actually available really early on in the game and didn't cost that much, 50 shards are easy to get, the fox skin and fatty meat were also really easy to get, the hardest thing to get there is the fox skin and it's because of rarity

  • @fireblade295
    @fireblade295 2 года назад +15

    Not even a minute in and I got chills.
    Edit: I would sign that petition for Lance Reddick to be in EVERY game. Love his voice and Fringe.

  • @EliHooke
    @EliHooke 2 года назад +9

    That glinthawk takedown was beautiful and I so can't wait to try it myself this weekend!
    Did want to mention that you can create jobs for resources in Zero Dawn and you can also turn off those little triangles in settings so they only show up when you have the focus up (there'a a lot of little hud adjustments available in the settings), but it looks like they improved both of those options A LOT in Forbidden West!
    Again, I CANNOT WAIT!!

  • @theyorkrose5274
    @theyorkrose5274 2 года назад +35

    Love this so much, just finishing the Ultra Hard playthrough in prep for it. All of these sound amazing*!
    *except the campfire thing doesn't matter to me because I got the unlimited fast travel about 5 hours into my first playthrough - but the 45 second wait each time I do it going away would make me very happy..!

    • @d2factotum
      @d2factotum 2 года назад +2

      Be interesting to know what the load times are like on the PS4 version of Forbidden West--are they also improved?

    • @theyorkrose5274
      @theyorkrose5274 2 года назад +1

      @@d2factotum I considered that because I'm likely to still be on the ps4 for some time - definitely slower than next gen and possibly won't work on my original console at all but also advances in how they manage this stuff may mean it's still faster? Presumably if I buy it digitally I can at least save it for later if I find it unbearable without the new console?

  • @DarthMader
    @DarthMader 2 года назад +12

    But creating jobs in order to get the resources required for certain upgrades was possible before, wasn't it? I distantly remember doing this in the first game...

    • @Dark14Fairy
      @Dark14Fairy 2 года назад +4

      yeah I was thinking the same thing

    • @DarthMader
      @DarthMader 2 года назад +2

      The game highlighting the prey you need for the job is new, though. And, goodness me, that would've been a handy feature in the first one. I think it was some fowl that I spent about two hours trying to get to spawn and then chase down along the river Southeast of Meridian for one of the last upgrades I needed... - BTW, since I saw Ellen in the comments somewhere: Still a great video, I didn't mean to rain on your parade with my initial comment. I intended to give the sequel a pass (not much room to improve on the first one imho), but you might've changed my mind on that.

    • @fireblade295
      @fireblade295 2 года назад

      It was, but never highlighted the areas nor telling you if it was dropped by specific mobs. It just tracked how many you needed.

    • @Giga-lemesh
      @Giga-lemesh 2 года назад

      I was thinking that too

  • @alwayswrite2011
    @alwayswrite2011 2 года назад +19

    I'm going to be playing this game to death! HZD is my favorite game. It's beautifully rendered. The music is incredible. The voice acting amazing. And the story was presented as a mystery that just kept going. I loved it! And now, some thinks I had watching this video...
    13:00 - HZD allowed you to create jobs for resources, too.
    14:46 - Frozen Wilds introduced a puzzle element. I haven't looked, but it might have been to get feedback on whether or not players found it enjoyable. Personally, I wondered why the puzzles were missing from the rest of the game.

  • @waywardscythe3358
    @waywardscythe3358 2 года назад +17

    Horizon always reminded me of this old sci-fi series I read, where an ancient alien race sent a self replicating mining rig to Triton before going extinct. In the intervening billions of years, drones would lose the some of the data on how to build themselves and have to combine data with other similar drones, creating more and more unique drones that kept selecting for more generalized traits, creating and ecosystem of robotic analogs to plants animals and people.

    • @GradyDP
      @GradyDP 2 года назад +1

      That sounds interesting, can you remember the title?

    • @waywardscythe3358
      @waywardscythe3358 2 года назад +1

      @@GradyDP unfortunately, no, sorry.

    • @benhobson3084
      @benhobson3084 2 года назад +1

      Commenting, because if you ever do remember the title, I want to be notified if it is posted.

    • @waywardscythe3358
      @waywardscythe3358 2 года назад +1

      @@benhobson3084 found it, “Code of the Lifemaker” fair warning, it’s been a long time since I tried to read it and I ended up putting it down the last time I did. Obviously the premise stuck with me though.

    • @waywardscythe3358
      @waywardscythe3358 2 года назад +1

      @@GradyDP Found it! “Code of the Lifemaker” like I warned the other guy, I ended up putting it down when I tried to read it last, I found it kind of boring. Though I was all the way back in high school,

  • @notoriousbmc1
    @notoriousbmc1 2 года назад +3

    Lance Riddick is excellent, but I can only see him as Agent Broyles, from FRINGE. Bit weird that Broyles is still around in the 31st century

    • @nier_gard9236
      @nier_gard9236 2 года назад

      I see him as Commander Zavala and agent clappers from the animated show paradise PD. Bing bang boom!

  • @MrMBinder
    @MrMBinder 2 года назад +11

    HZD is one of the only games where I've gotten *ALL* of the Steam achievements.
    I'm pretty sure I could "create jobs" when I played HZD on my PC last year. Maybe it was added as a patch with the "Complete Edition".
    Also; the first time I came to Meridian was when I bought the "Gold travel pack", so I guess that's just lucky for me.
    I just hope it'll be a bit easier to get hold of animal bits for crafting. Just murdering 10 foxes to get two skins, a bone, and a talisman seems a bit wasteful. Apart from all the (delicious) fox meat.
    Maybe I'll be able to get this game for my PC once I'm able to get a new graphics card (some time in 2023, I guess....)

    • @Jeremy-ql1or
      @Jeremy-ql1or 2 года назад

      You will be lucky if it has come to PC by 2023.

  • @sudopod
    @sudopod 2 года назад +25

    As a PC gamer, I look forward to playing this in 5 to 7 years.

    • @eightninety.
      @eightninety. 2 года назад +1

      Heard a rumor pc port will be out by September

    • @Tallenn
      @Tallenn 2 года назад +3

      @@eightninety. If that's true, I'll probably be able to play it PC before I can get my hands on a PS5!

  • @abhishekvalsangkar
    @abhishekvalsangkar 2 года назад +3

    This is exactly the kind of information I needed to tide me over until launch day, awesome idea for a review video.

  • @nikkorocksalot5254
    @nikkorocksalot5254 2 года назад +3

    All the inventory tweaks, including creating jobs to track resource hunting is just such a relief
    I hope all crafty games learn from this and make the process smoother for us to enjoy

  • @theomnitorium7476
    @theomnitorium7476 2 года назад +6

    Sounds all great! I loved the first game's atmosphere, but found it very clunky on the presentation side. Frozen Wilds had already improved a lot compared to the base game (especially the quiality of cut scenes) and it seems they have refined the gameplay even more. Can't wait to play it.

  • @kempolar9768
    @kempolar9768 Год назад +3

    I actually dislike the stash change specifically to do with the medicinal herbs, in the first game you could carry quite a lot but if you used them all up in a quest thats that. In HFW while it seems like you only carry about half as much herbs worth of healing since you can directly call the extra from your stash into your pouch while in the middle of combat, you are actually carrying about 10X the max of the first game and are NEVER in any danger of dying.

  • @Okinawatrip
    @Okinawatrip Год назад

    I freaking love your voice and commentary. Just the right amount of jokes and the exact right pace, not too quick, not too slow. Really nice to listen to.

  • @Skapologist
    @Skapologist 2 года назад +6

    Seeing Varl made me… more emotional than I thought. Obviously Aloy was going to be in this game, but the NPCs I grew to love? Not guaranteed.

    • @amypattie7004
      @amypattie7004 2 года назад

      Somehow they knew we love him… and seeing him with a beard for some reason got me emotional. Like they’re all grown now.

    • @weewee3486
      @weewee3486 2 года назад +1

      The NPCs were very well done in this game, very lovable both old and new

    • @81684hnxv
      @81684hnxv 6 месяцев назад

      Did you mean Carl

  • @Kravenrogue
    @Kravenrogue 2 года назад +1

    7:08
    There was an Option to Turn off ALL those triangles, you Could make that they only show If You press The Focus or If you touched The touch pad

  • @Otakukunoichi
    @Otakukunoichi 2 года назад +4

    Considering how much of a pain the item management was in the late game for me, the changes have me sooooo relieved. Also tracking animals, THANK YOU DEVS. I still remember the rage of trying to find freaking goose and racoon skins.

    • @chronicallychic
      @chronicallychic 2 года назад +1

      The fecking raccoons! Every time I was scanning the environment for raccoons, it turned out to be a fox. Their shape was so similar.

  • @yocumaco13
    @yocumaco13 2 года назад +1

    I actually stumbled across the golden fast travel pack a few hours into my first playthrough but didn’t read the description and continued using consumables for a few travels until i realized what i had bought.

  • @mat_musicat
    @mat_musicat 2 года назад +1

    The stash thing is more convenient, that’s right.
    But in terms of world building it makes more sense to search for specific resources (like Medicine, Chillwater, Echo Shells etc.).
    At times it was a bit annoying but exciting for real battle preparations.
    Though the resources categories are very welcome.

  • @AlienDenzil85
    @AlienDenzil85 2 года назад +10

    As a PC gamer, I'm plodding my way through Zero Dawn. Absolutely loving it, but I'm hoping to string out the playthrough so I can perhaps start on Forbidden West when/if it' gets a PC release!

    • @yugoprowers
      @yugoprowers 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I'm in the same boat. I bought a PS4 a long time ago but never used it so I sold it, so I don't really want to buy a PS5 for one game.

  • @NEKOSEI
    @NEKOSEI 2 года назад +4

    Did the new focus also hide the scanned animal behind the terrain as well? i can't tell you how often I would launch an arrow at a rat only to have a small hill to block the shot!

  • @zebraflavoured
    @zebraflavoured 2 года назад +2

    YEEES!! Oh my god the excitement i felt in my heart when you started out with the incredible inventory improvement?? Great game made perfect!!! So excited that you´re covering this!!

  • @MsPurji313
    @MsPurji313 2 года назад +1

    I LOVE how modern video games are bringing more accessibility in! I have watched let's plays for years of games that I am not able to do and, while I certainly believe games that don't have this (Soulsborne, etc.) totally have a place (and I will still watch them on YT), I am really happy to be able to tweak certain things so I can get my grubby little hands on them too!

  • @samuxan
    @samuxan 2 года назад +1

    I loved zero down and didn't notice most if these annoyances until I played the dlc years later. I'm glad they have sorted out things like the item management. Sadly I won't have the time to play on day one

  • @darshvia
    @darshvia 2 года назад +3

    One of the first thing I did in HZD (PC) was get that Golden Pack. I think I was sub-10. SOOOO glad I did it. Glad to see HFW got over that.

  • @CrazyJabberwock
    @CrazyJabberwock 2 года назад

    I feel the pull caster could stand to be even more handy. Imagine using it to collect items just out of reach. Like machine weapons or a part that fell out of bounds. Or even using it to yoink human enemies like the bat claw or to latch into machines for a hard strike and/rapid override.

  • @tonyxgamer6467
    @tonyxgamer6467 2 года назад

    I am playing through Horizon Forbidden West now. And I have played both Zero Dawn and the DLC. I was so happy that they kept the skilltree you get with the DLC as an default in the new game. I was also shocked but very intruiqed by their new settings for skill trees.meaning that for example Warrior and Hunter skill tree was a seperate thing even if they are very similar. The spear fighting is so nice!! Love it that you can mix up your fighting stances now.
    Also I want to mention what you did not mention in the video "Better character physics". In Zero Dawn you did meet many interesting characters with their each own stories. But... when they talked in an an dialouge. Like for when you speak with the different characters in dialouge when Aloy is talking to them for more inel and background or even the side missions, they are like all standing there, barely moveing theor arms, their face do lack of emotion, and... they keep their odd eyecontact of stareing🤣(they did improove this in the DLC), while in Forbidden west.... oh god! Im so happy for that change aswell! More movement and more facial expressions that suits their levle of voice and tone and emotion. Like if it is an movie!

  • @Smurfaliscous
    @Smurfaliscous 2 года назад +2

    I am so unbelievably hyped for this game. I have the Regalla Edition pre-ordered and I just bought the comics so I can catch up on those before release!

  • @bonerlaw
    @bonerlaw 2 года назад

    "OOH more health? Uh, fire kiln root!" This hits home! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jessicalee333
    @jessicalee333 2 года назад

    Being able to set up your own goals and add them to your quest log like that is such an amazing idea!

  • @Kathrynrtevans
    @Kathrynrtevans 2 года назад

    Yo this video just made me so hyped to get this game, those changes with went through…. I just kept going “yeeeeessssss” with each one! Thanks for uploading this one 🙏🏻

  • @thesephiam
    @thesephiam 2 года назад

    Finally, got to start playing this. (Had to play zero dawn on ultra hard new game plus first). Thank you for this video. Any more videos about zero dawn planned for the future?

  • @Sai2424
    @Sai2424 2 года назад +1

    I got the golden travel pack pretty early in horizon zero dawn 🤔
    All you needed was the Expert Carver ability. And that’s easily attainable if you farm some thunderjaws.
    Also, if you just take an hour or so to explore the map early game, you’ll pretty much get all the resources you need to purchase it.

  • @grummdoesstuff2983
    @grummdoesstuff2983 2 года назад

    thank you for still giving this list without any spoilers aside from a few of the new machines, which aren't much by way of spoilers anyway.

  • @Weissman111
    @Weissman111 Год назад +1

    Kudos to the costume designers - the level of detail is amazing...and the auto-pickup opption is a godsend.

  • @glenn4687
    @glenn4687 2 года назад +1

    I really want to see more of the underwater gameplay! This game looks phenomenal! 🤩

  • @mattw3606
    @mattw3606 2 года назад

    What a beautiful game. I don't have a Playstation, but I watched the cut scene cinematics for Zero Dawn and wow. What a game. I'm anxious to see how Aloy fares in The Forbidden West. Great video as always.

  • @shannonolivas9524
    @shannonolivas9524 2 года назад +6

    One way it's not better than Zero Dawn (for me): It's not on PC.
    I was so looking forward to this. Now best case scenario I'll get to buy it a few years down the line :-(
    How to avoid spoilers till then...

    • @Immopimmo
      @Immopimmo 2 года назад +2

      Yeah... sucks. Plus consoles suck for game development as a whole. So many new games are held back and made worse because they're made to run on last gen consoles instead of modern PC's.

    • @yugoprowers
      @yugoprowers 2 года назад +3

      @@Immopimmo Yeah when Ellen was talking about long load times all I could think was not on PC with an SSD or an NVMe.

  • @musicbox32
    @musicbox32 2 года назад

    Oh I am so ready to get my copy! I cant wait to explore this world again.

  • @Aleksandar6ix
    @Aleksandar6ix 2 года назад

    That redhead lady from the Grammarly advertisement would be a perfect Aloy! Haha. I unfortunately have to wait for PC release.

  • @Endgame_01
    @Endgame_01 2 года назад

    I love that you can long press up on the D pad to refill your medicinal pouch

  • @drewmcelyea8872
    @drewmcelyea8872 2 года назад

    I did the fast travel first, however the use of fire arrows I didn’t learn till the end.

  • @MatthewDoel32
    @MatthewDoel32 Год назад +4

    “I think we need to start a petition to get this man in every single video game”
    Sad, sad, sad sigh.

  • @Michael_Lindell
    @Michael_Lindell 2 года назад

    Commander: "Fire at Will!"
    Will: "Hey!"

  • @SolaScientia
    @SolaScientia 2 года назад

    The stash seems a welcome improvement since I quickly ran out of space in the brief bit I played of Zero Dawn. I like the changes to the Focus as well. I also found all the triangles for resources distracting and I'd often wander off gathering resources (or seeing if it was stuff I could pick up) and get side-tracked from whatever quest I was doing.
    I didn't mind walking that much in Zero Dawn, because the map is deceptive. I'd look at it and think about how far away a location was, but then getting there always took way less time than I thought. It's the same thing Kingdoms of Amalur does: make the map seem massive, but then it never takes as long as expected to travel.
    I'm waiting on getting the game, all that said. I never got far in Zero Dawn, because I felt bored and a bit overwhelmed at times. I loved the beginning, but that feeling started fading once Aloy was out on her own. As you mentioned, all the icons got distracting and overwhelming. The other issue was all the herds of machines. I felt like I wasn't going more than 50 yards without running into a herd that I needed to avoid or kill. I usually just ran/rode through them as fast as possible because I got sick of constantly fighting. I wanted to explore without constantly watching for machines. I get they're a main point of the game, but it felt tiresome after a while.
    I stopped playing when I got into the side quest that involved taking out 2 smaller camps before taking out the bigger camp at the stadium in the northeast of the map. The enemies always found me no matter how stealthy I thought I was being and I was always overwhelmed. I didn't have my mount with me, because I got sick of the mounts dying on me or needing repairs in order not to die. The people I was helping seemed basically useless for killing the enemies as well. I'd like to try to finish HZD, but it's not a game very high on my list right now. It's a game I want to love and one I did love at the start, but little things added up to the point that I uninstalled it to make room for others. Forbidden West looks very pretty indeed and I'm happy for those who are looking forward to it and who love Zero Dawn, but I'm waiting on it for now.

  • @jmw9904
    @jmw9904 2 года назад

    When I started seeing Forbidden West gameplay and videos, I think I was expecting you would be doing more stuff with Sylens, going after Hades, and possibly fighting one of the machines that looks like an octopus.

  • @spiritmuse
    @spiritmuse 2 года назад +5

    The first thing I spent resources on in HZD was always inventory extensions so this new system is a very nice improvement! The fast travel thing confuses me a bit though. It's free but also costs travel packs? Or is it free as long as you're at a camp fire, but costs a travel pack if you're not? If so that seems a bit of a downgrade from having the gold travel pack, to be honest. I hope they'll have one so it'll be free 100% of the time again.

    • @Slipknot4769
      @Slipknot4769 2 года назад

      Yes, it is free from fire to fire, but costs a pack to travel from the middle of nowhere to a fire. Hope that helps. :)

    • @eventhorizon2873
      @eventhorizon2873 2 года назад

      They should have added fasttravel between any campfire instantly(like tombraider), better with storeboxe next to it, in towns with merchands.
      If so alot more people would have enjoyed Hzd, there would be more structure in the game.
      You can focus on the game story.
      Insane you have to leave shit behind with value, because you need like 3 items to craft stuff, i came to a point, where i wanted to break the disc in half after killing a huge boss, findkig out i could not cary more stuff.
      Hzd is way overhyped, mechanics should have value too in a review. Basicly the basics for any game

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 2 года назад

    Wait, you didn't know about the Golden Fast Travel Pack? I picked it as soon as I left the Sacred Lands, you can get it from the first trader you meet at the border to the Carja territory. And a single fox skin isn't really that expensive.....

  • @kobitoergosum
    @kobitoergosum 2 года назад +23

    I'm mostly trying to steer clear of reviews but couldn't help watching yours... and I don't regret it. 💕
    This is the first time I've ever pre-ordered a game because Zero Dawn is my favourite, and what we've been shown so far really inspires confidence that Forbidden West will be a fantastic experience. I can't wait to get my hands on this beautiful game myself! Can it be February 18th now, please?

    • @megaselekmatos8519
      @megaselekmatos8519 2 года назад +1

      Today is the day!

    • @kobitoergosum
      @kobitoergosum 2 года назад

      @@megaselekmatos8519 Yesss, started playing at midnight and am loving it so far. 💕

  • @maclansaunders46
    @maclansaunders46 Год назад

    I didn’t know about the golden fast travel pack in zero dawn until I watched this, I literally had the same reaction when the video mentioned it

  • @tristan3976
    @tristan3976 Год назад

    The changes with the focus took some time to get used to but it's SUCH an improvement!!

  • @lnsflare1
    @lnsflare1 2 года назад

    7:20 For what it's worth, that was an option in HZD as well, you just have to toggle it on in the menu.

  • @CuriousMind477
    @CuriousMind477 2 года назад +1

    I do overall like the look of the things they added. I am however not super happy that they apparently fry the Shieldweaver armor right away. The "Metroid" strategy is not surprising, but DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD I WORKED FOR THOSE DAMN POWER CELLS?!

  • @notdancooper923
    @notdancooper923 2 года назад

    When I was playing HZD on my 2nd hand, base PS4, I used to have a youtube video paused sitting beside me so I could pass the time while waiting for the game to load lol

  • @ricardodarcangelo2437
    @ricardodarcangelo2437 2 года назад

    Ellen, 10/10 on that pullcaster/glider kill, that was so clever. Never would've thought of that

  • @user-mu1os7me8s
    @user-mu1os7me8s 2 года назад +2

    I'm so glad the problems with the old game were fixed in the sequel. Hopefully, this will make it so I am good enough at the game to take on bigger machines more frequently.

  • @Urahara451
    @Urahara451 2 года назад

    I like that none of the added features conflict with established lore/progression from Zero Dawn. It’s all things that were previously unlockable being native or that can be explained with new gear or skills. “Why couldn’t the focus do this before?” Because Aloy was still learning how to use/program it. “Why can we do all the mount things from the get go?” Because they were unlocked in the last game. “How can she do all these attacks now?” She’s not an inexperienced teen anymore. Stuff like that

  • @iyeetsecurity922
    @iyeetsecurity922 2 года назад

    This comes out on my day off. I'll be waiting at the door to Target when they open 😁👍

  • @siegfriedaxn12
    @siegfriedaxn12 2 года назад +1

    Im sure that Setting Jobs for materials were in Horizon Zero Dawn too but, by the time i noticed it, I had all my parts...

  • @Diabl05564
    @Diabl05564 2 года назад

    Normally I try to avoid watching review or tips videos as they usually have spoilers in them. Your channel does a good job at not spoiling content and gives a decent warning in case you are going to say one.

  • @rio23xh89
    @rio23xh89 Год назад +3

    R.i.P Lance reddick

  • @moniquelegarda1842
    @moniquelegarda1842 2 года назад +1

    I got this game on day one and am thoroughly enjoying the experience so far. I am taking my sweet time exploring everything on the map and doing every sidequest Aloy runs across. This game is a beauty.

  • @jeanetten.s.8557
    @jeanetten.s.8557 Год назад

    Oh God, yes, the spear combat. I spent 3 out of the 5 hours I played today just on the Pitmaster challenge in the Bulwark.

  • @xenogil180
    @xenogil180 2 года назад

    MORE PLEASE! Looks like a fun time.

  • @fiannatiger2747
    @fiannatiger2747 2 года назад

    Thank you this is great review! I love the QOL updates

  • @danmoar94
    @danmoar94 2 года назад

    I enjoyed exploring and moving through the world of zero dawn so I have about 100 fast travel packs I received as quest rewards that have just gone unused

  • @grapes008
    @grapes008 2 года назад

    Creating jobs for weapon upgrades, yeah that was in the first game. And you could track wildlife in the focus too, people just didn't notice you could press triangle

  • @austinbridge6966
    @austinbridge6966 2 года назад

    Seems I’m a bit late, but I just bought a ps5 and Horizon: Forbidden West a few weeks ago, and I absolutely love it😍although I’ve only gotten far enough to get one of the subordinate functions
    Btw, can’t wait to ride a Clawstrider💕😍legit been my lifelong dream!!(lifelong = since I saw a teaser stream on RUclips like 2 months or so before the game launched)😂and I swear, the 1st 5 or 6 hours was just landscape shots, but you could see stuff lurking in the shadows and it was just so beautiful; it’s the reason I ever found out this game was a thing(although, I def would’ve known after you posted this - I USUALLY keep up to date on ur vids)

  • @gingersnaps6941
    @gingersnaps6941 2 года назад

    Creating your own quest for upgrade items sounds super neat! Are there other games using such a system? Beause honestly this is the first time I've heard of it.

  • @adrianwarner8686
    @adrianwarner8686 2 года назад

    Thank you, this was a really fun and helpful video.

  • @ecnalremlig1644
    @ecnalremlig1644 2 года назад

    Very helpful. Thank you!

  • @unbiasedcobra6672
    @unbiasedcobra6672 2 года назад +1

    My favourite part is being able to fly. Yeah you need to finish basically the entire story but if you leave your side quests until you get it, it's amazing.

  • @lambo2655
    @lambo2655 2 года назад

    I love all the improvements they made except for one, camp fires you find are no longer marked green on the map like they were in ZD. I don’t know why they went with keeping them all white. It’s much easier to see the green when you’re zoomed out of the map to know if it was unlocked for fast travel use. It’s a minor complaint in the grand scheme of things but it’s noticeable.

  • @QuestionableLifeChoices
    @QuestionableLifeChoices 2 года назад

    i found myself switching out weapons WAY more in this one than the first one! every goddamn bow has acid arrows but only like 2 had what i needed regularly and one of them had 2 other arrow type that i had equipped elsewhere and just ugh. i eventually got something kinda workable near the end but it means that i honestly rarely ever used the shredders or boltblasters and i never used the spike throwers at all. maybe on NG+ i'll give them a go

  • @Novarcharesk
    @Novarcharesk 2 года назад

    "Like the elusive goose". I laughed

  • @Dreagonokard
    @Dreagonokard 2 года назад

    You could do the create jobs for items you needed in the first one.

  • @samdilks9516
    @samdilks9516 2 года назад +3

    Any changes that make it easier to kill glinthawks are very welcome

  • @Punkadelic2112
    @Punkadelic2112 2 года назад

    I prefer the snowy landscapes of the first but I know they had to move to something different for the second one. I'm still looking forward to this, which I will definitely get after I finish Elden RIng.

  • @chelseaestebat1121
    @chelseaestebat1121 2 года назад

    hunting boars early game is a pain in HZD, but if you use Fire Arrows instead of the lowly Hunting Arrows, it only takes 1 arrow to kill one instead of 3. it took me 7 playthroughs and 3 accounts in platinum to realize this XD

  • @demonsorrows
    @demonsorrows 2 года назад

    I'm playing HZD right now =p Doing some Frozen Wilds stuff before going to All-Mother for the The Heart of the Nora quest.

  • @monkeybrain9859
    @monkeybrain9859 2 года назад +1

    HZD was one of the main reasons I picked up a PS4. This will be a must-buy. Great vid!

  • @eazyecoheed16
    @eazyecoheed16 2 года назад

    I'm not gonna be able to pick it up on day one sadly but I'm dying to get my hands on it. Zero Dawn rekindled my love for gaming and I'm so ready to get my hands on this one! More videos please!!

  • @brandonwithnell612
    @brandonwithnell612 2 года назад

    i was hoping there would be better inventory management, i was replaying zero dawn on ng+ and that was one of my iggest gripes was having a full inventory so i just didnt loot anything anymore

  • @Kate_Fyria
    @Kate_Fyria 2 года назад

    My Birthday is the 19th! I'm so excited for this game. Zero Dawn is my favorite game, so I'm so excited for Forbidden West! I just wish I had a PS5 to fully enjoy it, but good luck getting hands on those.

  • @CaitlinRC
    @CaitlinRC 2 года назад +1

    Quality of life changes are great to see! Though I'm still just here for robo dinosaurs