Witnessing the colonies birth monsters for almost a full 100 years only to be taken by one after so long of just knowing and seeing so many of them, and seeing them placated by the law and men of power, I’d have had a heart attack when the day came with everything I’d known and seen or worried abt ever. It almost makes me think tht if she’d been meant to pass away in her 70’s or 80’s would she still have been met beforehand by some other monster whether a kid or not… like, is that what ppl mean by fate !? 😮 wicked
Wasn't there a r*pist who used to assault women of any age if their house weren't locked and then blame it on them? I remember watching something like that on Netflix It was very scary 😢
So many logical fallacies apply to that statement. It’s a false equivalency. It’s a red herring argument. There are just so many things inherently wrong with the statement that I would immediately question the IQ of anyone who stated it with sincerity
@@courtneysmith6082 Anyone using this is a criminal. Not just that, they are one so used to their parents covering up for them that it doesn't register as "wrong" anymore. He doesn't think what he does is wrong, he think it's other's people job to keep an eye on him 24/7 and not give him an opening. He's just too far gone for reform.
No remorse, yes. I think above all, though, no accountability… a complete refusal to accept even a shred of responsibility, and a complete and utter unwillingness or inability to do any kind of introspection. This is not surprising, though, given that a lack of remorse often, if not always, goes hand in hand with a lack of accountability. He just deflects, deflects, deflects, blaming the victims of his horrific acts of violence for his depraved behavior. Just truly terrifying and sad to think that some of the absolute worst monsters out there like this kid are just that…. Kids. I recently watched Steph’s video about the 8 year old serial killer and just… I have no words. Like, it’s hard to fathom just how much has to go wrong in such a short period of time for a child or even a teenager, (who is still a child) to end up being discussed on this channel. (Edited for typos lol)
It reminds me of "It's her fault for wearing that dress" - "It's her fault for going out for a walk (even in broad daylight) alone" On the same breath bark about accountability. Unbelievable!
@@yasmina1994that shouldn't be the thing you care MOST about though. Obviously it's hard to come to terms w it, but that doesn't mean it's most important thing in the situation
This is honestly so sad . .98 ?? At that age, she’s likely just trying to live her last years peacefully man. People like this don’t deserve sympathy, and the justice system always rules in their favor.
Always rules in their favor? And most people are trying to live their lives peacefully 98 or not … people sound like bot generated comments it’s so weird
@ Yes, always rules in their favor. It was a bit of a hyperbole, my mistake, but how often do you see sexual offenders receiving punishments they truly deserve ? And most of the time, they just get out on ‘good behavior’. It’s not only in adult years, by the way. Oftentimes, my friends and I get scolded for telling off perverted boys instead of them being held accountable for completely crossing boundaries. I don’t mean ‘living peacefully’ in the same way that you would think. Peace is different and subjective to everyone. At that age, peace is probably being alone, maybe having a pet or two, and enjoying the quiet. For an adolescent, peace could mean being in the same room as their favorite people, plans going smoothly, and no disturbances within family life, academic life, or future hangouts. I know for a lot of people around me, they’d describe peace as the latter rather than the former. You didn’t exactly have to reply to my comment, by the way. You could’ve gone about your day without describing my wording as ‘bot generated’ or ‘weird’.
@@MandySimLandyYou’re missing the point. Maybe you don’t have loving grandparents, so you just don’t get it. Old people, especially old women are usually so kind and generous to everyone, and as they lose strength and their mental capacity, it’s even more heart wrenching to hear them being hurt. We know with 99% certainty she didn’t do anything to bring on that attack.
@@MandySimLandy is you reading bots or not used to humans online expressing Emotion? Nothing bot about this. Especially that line, because it's true, minors who do crime have courts who rule in their favor. Nothing bot about that.
You can not coerce someone into being a predator. If you are not attracted to minors no one can convince you to be. I'm side-eyeing the people who think you can.
Well you can argue that the only reason they even tried to offend is bc a kid (the decoy) was showing interest. Still a pdf file but never would have offended otherwise, as an example
Its not that black and white, especially since its not usually about attraction. Someone can definitely be groomed into thinking its ok to to control or harm minors. And many victims dont mentally mature enough, making it harder for them to be attracted to same age peers. there is a lot that can be imprinted on a child, unfortunate but true
That’s was not the point that was being made by the people that were questioning the methodology (adults posing as children etc) were making; the point was the incentive to gain views/money from attempts which could cause ethical concerns about the practice and also the legality of the gathering of evidence that are not admissible courts.
A heartless person like this took my sister away from her 4 years daughter 3days after she had just turned 4. I watched my niece not understand where her mother had gone and why she was not home. Everytime my niece had to do her face lit up because she believed it was her mother coming into the house. My niece is now 26 and not a day goes by where I think of what my sister would be like at 46 years old. My sister never got to meet my child who is now 20. It’s been 22 years and I still cry about our loss. 😢😢
im 50 minutes into this video. this is the story of a future serial killer, necrophiliac in denial, and possible future rapist caught early. an absolutely foul human being
Didn't they say he just got a morgue attendant job or something? I think he would have been an American David Fuller, the killing was a means to an end, he's a necrophile and doesn't seem interested in sadism, torture and "watching the life leave their eyes"...DF killed once or twice to give his fantasies a whirl and he liked it so much that murder was messy, messes arw bound to draw notice on himself and leave evidence behind and serial killing wasn't to provide substantial opportunities and a long enough run, and became the go to maintainance guy at hospitals for checking, maintaining, and repairs of the very touchy and extremely important cooling systems in the hospital morgue ans spent about the next fifty years documenting in writing and filming his indecent acts and describing hia hundreds of victims and memorable incidents...I see this kid going that route and this being his only murder if he went on
The mother rubbed me the wrong way. Her only emotion was worry about how this all looks. A clear narcissist and enabler. The father was visibly devastated and at least showed compassion for the victim.
Right! I did think that something was off with the mother. She comes off as unfeeling. The father had more compassion than the mother. Usually, its the opposite.
I’m weirded out because it looks like her shirt said AUTISM which I’m scared is being done as a joke….. Not sure if this gets brought up in the video later.
Mothers know their sons , especially if he's a freaking phyco path. There's no way she didn't have any clue that he may have been involved in the old lady's murder.
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus I watched the full interrogation on EWU, and it seems to be an Autism Speaks shirt… not sure if she knew about the background of the organization.
that sadly becomes the reality for a lot of elderly now a days, due to the death of spouse and children having their own family and refuse to live with the aging parent.
@@__Liza__this is the age of independent women. Why can’t you escape men? If you’re being abused, then please get help. No one has the right to abuse you, even if they are paying the bills.
@@Dan-tt8sn This poor woman couldn't even escape a man that thought he had the right to her life and body at 98 years old. What stops others from doing the same in this day and age? That's what Liza is getting at.
@LaLaLa-vu6zc well I mean like assault and violent cases. But ofc a child commits an "adult" level crime of theft, like using a gun in a bank for example, then be tried as an adult. If it's a small theft then both should have a small punishment
@LaLaLa-vu6zc I disagree where EVERY crime should have a big punishment. I think the punishment level should balance out the crime. If someone stole a piece of gum like children tend to do, then their punishment should not be big compared to a child literally killing and assaulting the body
@ hmm yes I agree, but also looking at the reason as to why they did what they did like maybe a child stealing skincare and makeup products but doing it because they’re getting bullied for being ugly and feel insecure and don’t have money.
My maternal grandmother will turn 98 this year. She is our family's sweetheart, and all i pray is that her days will be as peaceful as can be. I cant imagine how someone could prey on such harmless and lovely lady as Margaret.
because it is easy . it is about control in this case taking the life of someone aka having control over it . Obviously would have no chance with an stronger and taller guy that's why most victims are kids and women .
A mistake is eating someone’s food, a mistake is taking the wrong turn. A mistake is some many more things but not taking a life. Taking a life especially when you were writing things down and it was pre-meditated. He is the lowest form of i person regardless of what his age is.
In december 2023 I made a new uears resolution to stop consuming true crime. I actually almost completely succeeded but then watched some vids by Steph from her other channel about some gossip and these vids started getting recommended to me so I watched maybe 2-3 during the 2024. So starting the 2025 with such a gruesome vid is wild, I'm thinking this will be my last, I can't handle such content, damn
@@evelinapushkash6827please prioritize yourself and your mental health. Step away if you think it’s what you need. You can always come back, or not. But I commend your ability to recognize it’s time for a break. All my best 💐
@@evelinapushkash6827valid point! Sometimes we don’t need to consume true crime content. Spread the word of survivors and remember those who lost but don’t get your undivided attention to it :)
@@duck8049 thanks! I do believe it's important to remember victims and survivors but lately youth is a bit too focused on true crime, it can't be good for our psyche. Like I used to have nightmares almost every night. In 2024 though, I maybe had them twice or thrice! Anecdotal evidence, but still, quitting true crime helped me feel less anxious, less paranoid, less sad. Good luck to all you babes in 2025!!! ❤
@@evelinapushkash6827 If you can't handle it, for your own sake I'd stop. These videos can be so unbelievably disturbing, heartbreaking and shocking for people with weak stomachs.
As a teenager on zoloft, I definitely never even wanted to do anything like that. I was also a csa victim, and still, never wanted or did anything similar. His crime is only his responsibility.
Yep... I'm an adult now, but I was on zoloft as a teen and it started a manic episode and I have literally never hurt anyone of planned to. It makes me pretty upset when people try and use defenses like that to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, when a lot of the time it just further pushes stigmas upon medicated individuals and the mentally ill.
Therapist here: Just to clarify - 100mg of Zoloft is a very common dose for someone with intrusive thoughts (e.g. with depression, OCD). Most adults start at 25 or 50mg and can go up to max ~200mg if needed. Not everyone responds the same way, but the murder because of medication defense is bs.
THIS! Though I believed 150 mg is average for OCD, PD, and chronic depression. Everyone is different. Most do a taper to see what would happen. I could see someone even confusing him with possibile pure O but with his following actions/crimes and the reddit community would make anyone who is knowledgeable in this area say it’s not just thoughts. I really hope for everyone’s sake that justice is served! I pray that she resting in heaven with her loved ones! It’s so sad! So wrong.
The kid never needed any medication, he needed a father who instructed discipline, and structured punishment for his actions, never knew anyone prescribed psycho med's growing up, never heard of anyone doing something like this
I'm on 200mg myself for my mental disorder and I have NEVER even thought of doing something like this. No excuse for it, and if you're getting those thoughts seek help!
@@PooSkids don't know how old you are skid mark, but a little advice, research what defines a man of wisdom and respect, and strive to become that, no matter how long it may take
The fact that he feels embarrassment - or at least, feigns embarrassment - when he is questioned about the 'purple stuff', shows that he knows the difference between right and wrong. He is completely sane. Just a born psychopath.
i’m 17 and 2 years ago i was diagnosed with clinical depression and was put on 150mg on zoloft which i’m still on. Of course some side effects will make an individual violent, but it’s absolutely disgusting to use something that actually saved mine and many other people’s life as a defence to taking someone else’s
@@mickqwellparker I think it's not supposed to make you violent but since medicine affects different people in different ways there are very few cases where it does contribute to violent thoughts. But still, that's not even near a good reason to do something as heinous as this.
He wanted to hurt someone who wasn’t in their physical prime, what a piece of shit. He wanted to think he was so amazing & complex when he’s just your average run of the mill empty husk collecting the pain of others thinking it’s some personal reflection of achievement.
I heard about this case and it still makes my stomach churn. To anybody who doesn’t know about this case, you’re gonna sob during this it’s fucking terrifying.
I’ve heard this case in depth multiple times, but Rotten Mango always dives a little deeper adding extra details to pull everything together. Thank you for all of your hard work, dedication and advocacy for victims and survivors! Happy New Year!
You ever seen the movie “We need to talk about Kevin” ? That’s what’s been going on. Some parents get these kids and see the signs and often don’t do anything about them until it’s too late or sometimes they still try to defend their demon spawn
Teens have always been this way. Especially adolescent males of all mammalian species. Look up teen dolphins or teen lions. It biological. All mammals have this issue with teen males. There’s no point in avoiding teen monkeys or apes either. It’s all mammals. Something about male adolescents causes them to be violent, especially in groups.
His only emotion is self pitty, not even sadness, just pitty. Like "look at me, I am so sad and sorry and innocent because whoopsie, I committed this horrible crime and I can't control myself. Poor me and if not me, my poor parents 🥺" definitely a sociopath... This is insane!!
I have a grandma who is 97 years old right now. Last week she broke her hip while sitting on a couch. Cant imagine anyone wanting anything sexual with her and can't picture her going through such pain and stress . Omg. She is so fragile. This is beyond evil
I’ve never seen a psychopath from their own perspective! What he wrote on that jornal was exactly him trying to reason with himself about being a psychopath. I feel so bad for Margaret, I hope he be locked up forever.
Yeah this whole thing is disgusting but at least use cooking oil. I regret bringing peanut butter and grape jelly sandwich for lunch now because now this is going to pop in my head while I'm trying to eat.
Of course it's "to anyone", however things always seem a little worse when it involves children or elderly,bc they're so vulnerable.. Obviously no one wants something like this to happen to ANYONE..
the sickest part of this case imo is that he applied to a funeral home before actually doing it like that literally shows this shit was planned and it shouldve been (if it wasnt already) used in court. he knew what he was doing and he was gonna do it again and keep abusing/assaulting that women's corpse
As someone who's already seen this case, I was still excited to watch it from your POV. I feel like these types of cases can be presented in 3 ways 1) Documentation 2) psychological analysis 3) Directed storytelling. I feel like you cover the third style in a way others don't. I appreciate it :)
I know for a fact his fellow inmates recently put him in the hospital. This guy is a monster, and the inmates in the privileged unit he is in were disgusted that he was given special treatment.
I saw a different case where a guy about 20 raped an elderly woman for hours. Because their skin is so thin she bruised so bad and turned black. She went into a coma and got septic shock and had her arms and legs amputated..She did survive and did an interview. He was doing work on her house and went back late at night high on meth and knocked on the door.
I’ve heard of this case before on Mooshi’s channel. What the hell is wrong with people? The fact that he tries to hide and excuse the disgusting bullshit he did to this poor woman is beyond me. May she rest peacefully; my heart goes out to her friends and family.
I know, what he actually did is way worse than how he makes it seem. The profile description was so disgusting how young men can do such acts and pretend to be all spiritual.
She was just not surprised her son would do something like this. Not the exact crime but she probably thought he's gonna do something that will land him in jail.
So no one is safe… Not even the elderly. Women will never find peace I haven't watched it yet but my heart goes out to the family of the victim, I hope he gets punished appropriately Rest In Peace
@@mikelund327you're genuinely a vile human if you're defending that monster. These types of people will find a way to do what they want regardless. Oh, and also, you people always try to come up with excuses, "she must've been giving him signs," "what was she wearing?", "she should've done this or that". Ya'll blame anyone but the actual criminals. Not to mention the fact that she's 98 YEARS OLD
It wasn’t to catch a predator but it was a local predator catcher. I found out My best friend of 10 years had been caught trying to meet up with a 13 year old at 2am. He was 31. He had a (at the time) 3 year old daughter. They streamed it live on Facebook. He didn’t get arrested but did get socially shunned, fired from his job etc. i had some…choice words… for him once i found out and havnt talked to him since. It broke me but im glad he was caught.
It's best you found out, imagine if you yourself or someone in your friend group were to have a 13 yo child some day and you think you could trust him to be alone with them... that'd be so scary and potentially dangerous. A community deserves to know who the predators are.
honestly i hate the juvenile excuse for his psychopathic behavior. plus he's surrounded by people who look away at his actions, he grew up that way, and if he was a CHILD chasing his siblings around with a knife imo it's a telltale sign something's not alright. there's a difference between making a dumb mistake when you're young versus murdering an innocent woman horrifically and DOCUMENTING IT. he's the type of criminal that needs to STAY locked up 😭 plus he's highly manipulative, mimicking empathy & remorse is honestly inhuman.
Looking at her pictures in her more youthful years, knowing that her fate would land in the hands of 17 years worth of useless flesh, it is truly heart-breaking. When you said "81 years older than him", that was piercing. Even to imagine by all accounts that she was healthy and strong. The father's reaction is genuinely broken. Imagine fathering something worse than a demon.
i appreciate that you handle these cases with care and tact. so far your channel is the only true crime channel i can tolerate, everyone else laughs and uses it to make jokes while putting on makeup. i love how kind you are to the victims and don’t joke
Y’all don’t understand most young men are virgins and women are out here getting pregnant at age 13 and shit. I’m not at all surprised about this story this is nothing y’all don’t understand how horny young men and boys can be younger women are out here having sex with older men.
:(( i hate cases like these so much. these make me sick to my stomach i don’t know how anybody could pray on the most vulnerable people in our society.
Y’all don’t understand most young men are virgins and women are out here getting pregnant at age 13 and shit. I’m not at all surprised about this story this is nothing y’all don’t understand how horny young men and boys can be younger women are out here having sex with older men.
I'm glad you pointed out the mums manner of interaction with him, I noticed it straight away. She's dismissive and detached and it drove him to insanity.
As a young adult on Zoloft- that entire section was very difficult to listen to. I'm on it for anxiety and OCD, not depression, and on a much higher dose than 100mg. I've been on it for years and have never once had those kind of "aggressive symptoms". ... I know meds effect different people differently, but come on. Blaming the meds on this is silly.
i used to be on zoloft as well, and while it may not be the aggravating factor in crimes, there is certainly a correlation between teens on ssri’s and violent crimes. that’s doesn’t mean it’s never helpful, but it should certainly be discussed when weighing the pros and cons.
A local highschool principal in my area lost his job precisely because of one of those online child predator trap accounts. I have no clue if hes been charged yet but there was enough evidence that he was was arrested and subsequently fired after all of it was published.
In NSW Australia the police sent out a missing persons report about an old man who disappeared while unsupervised. In the Facebook post the police were requesting the public to be on the lookout for him. However, the post had its comment's section removed because the people in the comments were reminding the police that the man who was missing was serving a prison sentence for taking the life of a woman in 2012. THE POLICE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HELP IN THE MANHUNT FOR A KILLER OF WOMEN AND DIDN'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE WAS A CONVICTED MURDERER!!!!!! Edit: her name was Amy Aiton.
I'm in Australia, I don't recall hearing about that one - is it in the past 5-6 or so years? Tbh I'm wondering if the police thought revealing that might result in the guy receiving a likely well-deserved thrashing (or more) before being reported. Still...
THE BEAR!!!!! I just saw another story of a lady who was graped by her dentist and only found out when the dr told her she's pregnant 😢 so THE BEARRRRR
As someone who was on Zoloft and did definitely have “violet outbursts” as a teen. It was irritability more than anything and trauma forming. I would never have killed someone I would never have harmed someone. The mom using this as a defense for her son is actually horrifying and makes me question how many signs she saw of a psychopath.
Thats probably bcoz monsters dont just pop up most times .There are always reasons ,usually environmental and genetic, which means a history in the family that carried on to the child .That means there are patterns, reasons ,cause and effect .only the rest that cant be explained are metaphysical reasons ,which is what you call birthing a monster ,meaning his soul already would be shaped this way,uninfluenced by anything that we can put are finger on
He might be a psychopath that has an actual brain abnormality. That’s not an excuse- there’s lots of psychopaths who make themselves behave as if they care about other people- even if their feelings don’t engage in that-because they can figure out right and wrong logically even if they can’t emotionally.
the zoloft defence is wild because he never even gave the medication a proper chance with his level of substance abuse. you need to be sober (cali sober is fine to an extent) to allow it to work as alcohol is a depressant! i learnt this the hard way with my meds!
Ikr it took like a half a year for my prozac to do it's job at first it made me have severe episodes of depression and anxiety that would subside into calmness. You gotta be sober for them to work. One time I did DPH as a call for help and I had WAYY more reactions to a point where I was scared for my life.
My jaw dropped when he said he broke into cars because it’s their fault for leaving them unlocked …. Previously the man on the phone with the police said Margaret always left her door unlocked. That’s so sad. People can be so awful.
Being able to live not only to 98 but ALONE. She seemed like an absolute light. Everyone in the neighborhood had nothing bad to say. She kept to herself, fended for herself and was still physically able. Rest in Peace Margaret. How can a teen be so cruel. HIs mom just rubs me the wrong way, the dad seemed the most sympathetic towards Margaret.
This case is so disgusting. That women only had two more years until she was 100, but a child not only killed her but did these gross acts to her. This world is so cruel I hope all the familys involved are ok cause what he did was just disgusting...
I remember when this case broke. I appreciate your thorough review of it. You always include all the details others skip over. This is not someone capable of rehabilitation. People tell you who they are and the courts above all, should listen. Thank you Stephanie and happy new year.
Seeing those pictures of her and knowing how happy she was to turn 99, just made this so much worse. She lived 18 years without the love of her life but was still so happy to be alive anyway. I hope, if there is an afterlife, that she’s with him again and happy like she deserves❤
I always find these intros so interesting. It is an interesting opening but you have NO IDEA where the hell the story is gonna go from there! Wish you a happy new year, Stephanie, hubby and the rest of the Rotten Mango crew! ❤
Parents are enablers and it’s disgusting how they tried to defend his actions. Plenty of people use Zoloft and don’t sa elderly women. He deserves to never get out of prison.
I don’t feel like there is enough information for me to make a proper judgement but from the clips I saw the mother and home life just seems terrible, If you have a son who is committing petty crimes and you put him on a routine, don’t let him outside and make him sleep next door to you that child will of course act out, now of course ‘acting out’ and doing what he did are very different but I think that could be a catalyst, when a kid who struggles with mental health issue has a drunkard father and a over controlling mother and feels like he can’t share anything their mental health will continue to deteriorate until critical
The thought that ANYONE in their right mind would Over turn a life sentence for such evil!!! Is Mind blowing! How can anyone THAT ignorant be in charge of such laws!!? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
As a 15 yr old how tf does a 16 year old have so much evil in them do some bs like this? It’s actually wild, idk, I’ve seen alot of cases but this might just be my breaking point
@ lmao thank you for your concern but I’ve seen a huge amount of different cases at a young age that I probably shouldn’t be watching but yeah, I’m kind of just into it now. I’ve taken mental breaks here and there but I’m fine.
@@izzyjp_just be careful! ur very young and the internet is scary 😭 ik uve probably heard it 1000 times.. but its true! i started watching true crime at a young age too and while it was fascinating i definitely saw things i shouldnt have
@@briamaries definitely and I get where you’re coming from, I learned the hard way when one day I thought I was going insane, but I just never took a break from dark topics and had it all stacked up. I deleted twitter and stayed on the happy side of tik tok and RUclips. I feel better than I did before. Thank you for your concern!💕
I gave birth to a son 3 years ago. My greatest fear is to one day be told i messed up by way of him hurting or abusing another person. I can NOT empathize with that mother. What shes doing is blame shifting and trying to keep face. Im even more concerned for the children that are still stuck in the house. Their father seems to be ok but "the family name" is something ive only really heard from male sides of a family. Im not saying their mom couldnt have said it, but her maiden name isnt their family name. She didnt unalive that woman, but she did the bare minimum and believes shes in the right. I hope and hope that i do better. For my son and for everyone he interacts with as a grown man.
I completely agree with you. These types of people are nearly always a product of an abusive family dynamic. They don't just just "wake up " one day like that. It happens when you've been pushed so hard by your caregivers that you snap.
As a mother of 3 boys and a girl i remind my kids often to hold each other accountable and respect each others boundaries. As well as the fact that my job as a mother is to teach them how to but i can only provide them the tools ect they are the one responsible at the end of the day for their actions "when mom looks away." Not saying the mother couldnt have done better but i definitely dont hold her accountable for her sons actions.
On the topic of stings for crimes against minors: I was pregnant with my almost 11 year old child. One morning I get woke up by my husband asking the name of my OB. I groggily confirmed it only to be told that I need to call the office and get a new one. Those poor ladies that day... It was chaos for them. My OB had been arrested in a sting in another state and admitted to a plan with an underaged boy. Needless to say he essentially went straight to lockup for a while. My husband's friend shared the article and that's how he saw it.
It's not coercion. The decoys don't reach out to the predators, the predators always make the first move and the decoys always say they're age right away and they talk normally. It's the p predators that talk all nasty and freaky like.
this kid is too far gone for sure, taking his time to violate this poor old lady, in the most vicious and disgusting of ways, he should be dating, studying for exams ect, his Mum seemed not suprised by her darling spawns actions,where as the Dad was melting down. she calls him compassionate. either he is good at faking emotions, or she is a pychopath too.
You should discuss Sarah Sands case. I was incredibly moved by her story. She moved to a new neighbourhood as a single mother of 5. Her neighbour was an elderly man who she trusted. She had checked the sex offenders register but it said no one in her area. Turns out her elderly neighbour who she trusted to babysit when she had to work late ect. Was actually a convicted pedophile with 24 other convicted of sexual offences (however his convictions were before the register came out). Additionally there had been multiple calls to the police, complaining about people witnessing him being inappropriate with young boys. He additionally had a job working around children, and people had called complaining to his employers about inappropriate behaviour too, however the police wouldn’t release his criminal record to his work place as it was “private information”🙄, since he committed them before the sex offenders registry became a thing. This elderly neighbour had been regularly SAing 3/5 of Sarah’s children. Her 12 year old son, and her two 11 year old twin sons. She reported it to the police, but her sons were ashamed and she ended up stabbing him because he wouldn’t just admit it and she didn’t want her sons to suffer through trial, nor did she want him free to do it to others. The most moving part of this story though, was that she was convicted, had her sentence more than doubled to about 8 years and she never told the public or the court that it was her songs who were SA’d, because they felt shame about it and she didn’t wanna put them through it, even though it would of lessened her prison time. It wasn’t til her songs were well into there 20’s that they came out about it all. She allowed them to do it on their own terms, as a victim should. The saddest thing tho, is that her sons stated they felt guilty for ever telling their mum, because they would have preferred to suffer than have there mum taken away from them😭 they stated they felt it was their fault she was taken away from them. It’s just so emotionally moving. They really communicate the victim experience and the mum is just a bloody soldier. She protected her kids in every way.
I remember watching something about that. She didnt say anything about her sons' abuse in court because she didn't want to say anything before they were ready 😢
I cannot stand the "antidepressants made me do it" defense, I've been on zoloft, prozac and Lexapro from 12 to 18, all three I've seen come up commonly with this terrible defense and never once did I think about murdering someone or anything close to what this kid did. I understand these medications affect people differently but I do not believe they can cause homicidal thoughts. Suicidal? Yes, I had to stop zoloft because it made me worse but never once did I want to murder someone. It's a terrible excuse. Being mentally ill doesn't magically make everything you do not your fault.
We gotta stop with the "not completely developed brain" in these cases. Yes, it is still developing but it does not justify THESE actions, it might juatify reckless behaviour, misconduct, maaaaaybe some petty theft like shoplifting, but not necr****lia, abuse of a corpse and all those things he was accused of and commited.
This is one of the most insane cases I've ever heard. I can't imagine how anyone could be so vile to do that to anyone but especially not to an elderly woman
The fact that he could commit such a dispicable, hanous crime and have the wherewithal to be home before his mom wakes up to me shows that he knew exactly what he was doing. He is a sociopath, not a psychopath and he is no more than a manipulative, entitled killer paving his path to get out on parole and continue to do horrendous things. No, just no.
As someone that works in long-term care this case breaks my heart. To get to 98 and still live alone is crazy strong. I just cant wrap my mind around why someone would ever do thist to someone so so old and vulnerable
Had to stop and stare at the yarn and hook in my hands when she read out that he crochets in prison, as if my half finished laptop case had just betrayed me
Thank you for illustrating the story of Margaret. She sounded like a wonderful person. She deserved happiness, and to be remembered for her positive traits and not for her murderer. I hope her soul rests in peace with her husband.
Sounds like he is very aware of his thoughts ,actions and wants but he is so aware that he knows exactly how to act to be perceived a certain way . He is probably just pretending that he doesn’t know anything
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Imagine living almost a century just to be killed and violated by a monster.
I just listened to another RUclips channel where the victim was 90 years old and in good health had an active life and was murdered
The hatred I feel cannot be described.
@Envi-jm8mi real. :(
Witnessing the colonies birth monsters for almost a full 100 years only to be taken by one after so long of just knowing and seeing so many of them, and seeing them placated by the law and men of power, I’d have had a heart attack when the day came with everything I’d known and seen or worried abt ever. It almost makes me think tht if she’d been meant to pass away in her 70’s or 80’s would she still have been met beforehand by some other monster whether a kid or not… like, is that what ppl mean by fate !? 😮 wicked
Imagine the things she had seen and been a part of…. 100 years is a long time.
I hate how he said that if the door was lock he wouldn’t have done that, he is basically blaming that poor old lady.
there was also a serial killer who took unlocked doors as a free pass. any house that was locked, he would continue past.
@ that’s crazy
@@themischief420 exactly. Richard Chase. iirc he was also a necrophiliac.
Wasn't there a r*pist who used to assault women of any age if their house weren't locked and then blame it on them?
I remember watching something like that on Netflix
It was very scary 😢
@@caramelspellman3253because these monsters see this as “consent” sHe bAsİCalLy AsKeD fOr İt
"I broke into other peoples cars, it's their fault because they didn't lock them"
That right there, biggest red flag. There is no remorse in this one.
the second he said that, realising Margaret didn't lock her doors was the excuse he was needing to do the act
So many logical fallacies apply to that statement. It’s a false equivalency. It’s a red herring argument. There are just so many things inherently wrong with the statement that I would immediately question the IQ of anyone who stated it with sincerity
@@courtneysmith6082 Anyone using this is a criminal. Not just that, they are one so used to their parents covering up for them that it doesn't register as "wrong" anymore. He doesn't think what he does is wrong, he think it's other's people job to keep an eye on him 24/7 and not give him an opening. He's just too far gone for reform.
No remorse, yes. I think above all, though, no accountability… a complete refusal to accept even a shred of responsibility, and a complete and utter unwillingness or inability to do any kind of introspection. This is not surprising, though, given that a lack of remorse often, if not always, goes hand in hand with a lack of accountability.
He just deflects, deflects, deflects, blaming the victims of his horrific acts of violence for his depraved behavior. Just truly terrifying and sad to think that some of the absolute worst monsters out there like this kid are just that…. Kids. I recently watched Steph’s video about the 8 year old serial killer and just… I have no words. Like, it’s hard to fathom just how much has to go wrong in such a short period of time for a child or even a teenager, (who is still a child) to end up being discussed on this channel.
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It reminds me of "It's her fault for wearing that dress" - "It's her fault for going out for a walk (even in broad daylight) alone" On the same breath bark about accountability. Unbelievable!
Necrophilic acts are so heinous. Women can’t escape their bodies being used as nothing but objects for men, even in death.
Bud you do realize every guy gets half of their dna from their mother right. Maybe that evilness was from the mothers side
For men?!?! Okay whatever
@FreeminderXIII what's the problem with what they said ?..
@@bloodpixie777 simple generalization? One freak did some sick stuff doesn't mean half of society are complicit.
can happen with women to men too
“She probably thinks I’m confessing to murder or something” …crazy
Mmmhm
I think it's really weird that the mom cares most about outward appearances..."not MY son", but to the extreme.
@@jessicadutridge9882 The dad also said the same thing tho... Can we not overthink what people say in distress as if we know anything?
@@jessicadutridge9882yeah who tf wouldn't?😭 its takes a tole on your ego thinking you did a good job raising them then this happens
@@yasmina1994that shouldn't be the thing you care MOST about though. Obviously it's hard to come to terms w it, but that doesn't mean it's most important thing in the situation
This is honestly so sad . .98 ?? At that age, she’s likely just trying to live her last years peacefully man. People like this don’t deserve sympathy, and the justice system always rules in their favor.
Always rules in their favor? And most people are trying to live their lives peacefully 98 or not … people sound like bot generated comments it’s so weird
@ Yes, always rules in their favor. It was a bit of a hyperbole, my mistake, but how often do you see sexual offenders receiving punishments they truly deserve ? And most of the time, they just get out on ‘good behavior’. It’s not only in adult years, by the way. Oftentimes, my friends and I get scolded for telling off perverted boys instead of them being held accountable for completely crossing boundaries. I don’t mean ‘living peacefully’ in the same way that you would think. Peace is different and subjective to everyone. At that age, peace is probably being alone, maybe having a pet or two, and enjoying the quiet. For an adolescent, peace could mean being in the same room as their favorite people, plans going smoothly, and no disturbances within family life, academic life, or future hangouts. I know for a lot of people around me, they’d describe peace as the latter rather than the former. You didn’t exactly have to reply to my comment, by the way. You could’ve gone about your day without describing my wording as ‘bot generated’ or ‘weird’.
A whole generation of them 🙏 scary sad
@@MandySimLandyYou’re missing the point. Maybe you don’t have loving grandparents, so you just don’t get it. Old people, especially old women are usually so kind and generous to everyone, and as they lose strength and their mental capacity, it’s even more heart wrenching to hear them being hurt. We know with 99% certainty she didn’t do anything to bring on that attack.
@@MandySimLandy is you reading bots or not used to humans online expressing Emotion? Nothing bot about this. Especially that line, because it's true, minors who do crime have courts who rule in their favor. Nothing bot about that.
You can not coerce someone into being a predator. If you are not attracted to minors no one can convince you to be. I'm side-eyeing the people who think you can.
Well you can argue that the only reason they even tried to offend is bc a kid (the decoy) was showing interest. Still a pdf file but never would have offended otherwise, as an example
Its not that black and white, especially since its not usually about attraction. Someone can definitely be groomed into thinking its ok to to control or harm minors. And many victims dont mentally mature enough, making it harder for them to be attracted to same age peers. there is a lot that can be imprinted on a child, unfortunate but true
exactly this.
Thank you. Some people are just messed up in their gray matter and as a mother of 4. I hope for their personal safety they don't try that with them...
That’s was not the point that was being made by the people that were questioning the methodology (adults posing as children etc) were making; the point was the incentive to gain views/money from attempts which could cause ethical concerns about the practice and also the legality of the gathering of evidence that are not admissible courts.
A heartless person like this took my sister away from her 4 years daughter 3days after she had just turned 4. I watched my niece not understand where her mother had gone and why she was not home. Everytime my niece had to do her face lit up because she believed it was her mother coming into the house. My niece is now 26 and not a day goes by where I think of what my sister would be like at 46 years old. My sister never got to meet my child who is now 20. It’s been 22 years and I still cry about our loss. 😢😢
Too many heartless out in the world. Just sad
@ our family was lucky to have her daughter, she is very much like her mother in every way and we are very thankful and grateful.❤️
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im 50 minutes into this video. this is the story of a future serial killer, necrophiliac in denial, and possible future rapist caught early. an absolutely foul human being
And probably bisexual in denial too
Didn't they say he just got a morgue attendant job or something? I think he would have been an American David Fuller, the killing was a means to an end, he's a necrophile and doesn't seem interested in sadism, torture and "watching the life leave their eyes"...DF killed once or twice to give his fantasies a whirl and he liked it so much that murder was messy, messes arw bound to draw notice on himself and leave evidence behind and serial killing wasn't to provide substantial opportunities and a long enough run, and became the go to maintainance guy at hospitals for checking, maintaining, and repairs of the very touchy and extremely important cooling systems in the hospital morgue ans spent about the next fifty years documenting in writing and filming his indecent acts and describing hia hundreds of victims and memorable incidents...I see this kid going that route and this being his only murder if he went on
So a whole 50min before the story !
The mother rubbed me the wrong way. Her only emotion was worry about how this all looks. A clear narcissist and enabler. The father was visibly devastated and at least showed compassion for the victim.
Right! I did think that something was off with the mother. She comes off as unfeeling. The father had more compassion than the mother. Usually, its the opposite.
I’m weirded out because it looks like her shirt said AUTISM which I’m scared is being done as a joke…..
Not sure if this gets brought up in the video later.
Mom is probably just as sociopathic but doesn’t get a rise out of assaulting the elderly. Maybe she stomps ants and is the workplace bully.
Mothers know their sons , especially if he's a freaking phyco path. There's no way she didn't have any clue that he may have been involved in the old lady's murder.
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus I watched the full interrogation on EWU, and it seems to be an Autism Speaks shirt… not sure if she knew about the background of the organization.
98 and living on her own? that's phenomenal.
The strength of that poor woman😢
that sadly becomes the reality for a lot of elderly now a days, due to the death of spouse and children having their own family and refuse to live with the aging parent.
That's my goal as well but it looks like I can't escape men even at 98 🤢
@@__Liza__this is the age of independent women. Why can’t you escape men? If you’re being abused, then please get help. No one has the right to abuse you, even if they are paying the bills.
@@Dan-tt8sn This poor woman couldn't even escape a man that thought he had the right to her life and body at 98 years old. What stops others from doing the same in this day and age? That's what Liza is getting at.
Crimes against the elderly, children, and animals are the ones that turn my stomach the worst. The most vulnerable deserve the most protection.
+1
100% agreed
Those who prey upon the most vulnerable are often the ones who have the worst time in prisons.
@@Nystariiipromise?
And disabled non elderly
As that one quote said. "Commit adult crimes, get adult punishment"
But what is an adult crime really? Theft could be for children and adults, how do we even know. Every crime should get a big punishment.
@LaLaLa-vu6zc well I mean like assault and violent cases. But ofc a child commits an "adult" level crime of theft, like using a gun in a bank for example, then be tried as an adult. If it's a small theft then both should have a small punishment
@LaLaLa-vu6zc I disagree where EVERY crime should have a big punishment. I think the punishment level should balance out the crime. If someone stole a piece of gum like children tend to do, then their punishment should not be big compared to a child literally killing and assaulting the body
@ hmm yes I agree, but also looking at the reason as to why they did what they did like maybe a child stealing skincare and makeup products but doing it because they’re getting bullied for being ugly and feel insecure and don’t have money.
I agree with this notion
My maternal grandmother will turn 98 this year. She is our family's sweetheart, and all i pray is that her days will be as peaceful as can be. I cant imagine how someone could prey on such harmless and lovely lady as Margaret.
because it is easy . it is about control in this case taking the life of someone aka having control over it . Obviously would have no chance with an stronger and taller guy that's why most victims are kids and women .
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A mistake is eating someone’s food, a mistake is taking the wrong turn. A mistake is some many more things but not taking a life. Taking a life especially when you were writing things down and it was pre-meditated. He is the lowest form of i person regardless of what his age is.
Oh boy, starting off the new year with a tough one
In december 2023 I made a new uears resolution to stop consuming true crime. I actually almost completely succeeded but then watched some vids by Steph from her other channel about some gossip and these vids started getting recommended to me so I watched maybe 2-3 during the 2024. So starting the 2025 with such a gruesome vid is wild, I'm thinking this will be my last, I can't handle such content, damn
@@evelinapushkash6827please prioritize yourself and your mental health. Step away if you think it’s what you need. You can always come back, or not. But I commend your ability to recognize it’s time for a break. All my best 💐
@@evelinapushkash6827valid point! Sometimes we don’t need to consume true crime content. Spread the word of survivors and remember those who lost but don’t get your undivided attention to it :)
@@duck8049 thanks! I do believe it's important to remember victims and survivors but lately youth is a bit too focused on true crime, it can't be good for our psyche. Like I used to have nightmares almost every night. In 2024 though, I maybe had them twice or thrice! Anecdotal evidence, but still, quitting true crime helped me feel less anxious, less paranoid, less sad. Good luck to all you babes in 2025!!! ❤
@@evelinapushkash6827 If you can't handle it, for your own sake I'd stop. These videos can be so unbelievably disturbing, heartbreaking and shocking for people with weak stomachs.
As a teenager on zoloft, I definitely never even wanted to do anything like that. I was also a csa victim, and still, never wanted or did anything similar. His crime is only his responsibility.
Thanks for sharing this, it's insane to say that a common medication turns you into a murderer necrophiliac, that's absurd.
Yep... I'm an adult now, but I was on zoloft as a teen and it started a manic episode and I have literally never hurt anyone of planned to. It makes me pretty upset when people try and use defenses like that to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, when a lot of the time it just further pushes stigmas upon medicated individuals and the mentally ill.
Right… I’ve been on it for almost 3 years and have not once have thoughts like THAT.
Exactly, I’m on Zoloft and also gone through years of abuse and have never thought of committing any harmful act. This is disgusting.
I was on zoloft. It made me feel a bit out of it at times so I got off it. Certainly didn't make me a demonic creature...
Therapist here: Just to clarify - 100mg of Zoloft is a very common dose for someone with intrusive thoughts (e.g. with depression, OCD). Most adults start at 25 or 50mg and can go up to max ~200mg if needed. Not everyone responds the same way, but the murder because of medication defense is bs.
THIS! Though I believed 150 mg is average for OCD, PD, and chronic depression. Everyone is different. Most do a taper to see what would happen. I could see someone even confusing him with possibile pure O but with his following actions/crimes and the reddit community would make anyone who is knowledgeable in this area say it’s not just thoughts.
I really hope for everyone’s sake that justice is served! I pray that she resting in heaven with her loved ones! It’s so sad! So wrong.
Medication can induce psychosis tho too. You should know this
The kid never needed any medication, he needed a father who instructed discipline, and structured punishment for his actions, never knew anyone prescribed psycho med's growing up, never heard of anyone doing something like this
I'm on 200mg myself for my mental disorder and I have NEVER even thought of doing something like this. No excuse for it, and if you're getting those thoughts seek help!
@@PooSkids don't know how old you are skid mark, but a little advice, research what defines a man of wisdom and respect, and strive to become that, no matter how long it may take
The fact that he feels embarrassment - or at least, feigns embarrassment - when he is questioned about the 'purple stuff', shows that he knows the difference between right and wrong. He is completely sane. Just a born psychopath.
He probably WAS embarrassed. But only because it makes him look horny and desperate, not because he cares about how wrong it was.
i’m 17 and 2 years ago i was diagnosed with clinical depression and was put on 150mg on zoloft which i’m still on. Of course some side effects will make an individual violent, but it’s absolutely disgusting to use something that actually saved mine and many other people’s life as a defence to taking someone else’s
um... serious question, why would you be on medication that causes you to be violent? thats strange..
When i was on Zoloft i wasn’t violent but more calmer and happier. Did gain weight tho :’)
@@mickqwellparker I think it's not supposed to make you violent but since medicine affects different people in different ways there are very few cases where it does contribute to violent thoughts. But still, that's not even near a good reason to do something as heinous as this.
The fact I knew this kid & went to school with him. We had snap streaks. Just for him to become this. Just proves you never really know anyone.
I am from the town where Donald gaskins started killing people know people who knew him personally
Yeah won't matter how long you know them.
I always find it crazy how in so many cases the people who are around these monsters have zero clue about who they actually are. It’s so scary
Having a snap streak with a future murderer... the 21st century is crazy
Imagine when he was a kid he was afraid of the monster. When he is the monster.
Imagine living through war , the great depression, trials , and overall a century just to get killed by a violent monster who tries to act complex
He wanted to hurt someone who wasn’t in their physical prime, what a piece of shit. He wanted to think he was so amazing & complex when he’s just your average run of the mill empty husk collecting the pain of others thinking it’s some personal reflection of achievement.
I heard about this case and it still makes my stomach churn. To anybody who doesn’t know about this case, you’re gonna sob during this it’s fucking terrifying.
i have never heard of it, and listening to it now, the title alone made me cry.
Heard if it on the channel explore with us. Made me sick
@ same, that’s where I heard it
Tbh thanks for the heads up. I was planning to listen while i cook but i think ill wait until after i eat
It really is😢😢😢
I’ve heard this case in depth multiple times, but Rotten Mango always dives a little deeper adding extra details to pull everything together. Thank you for all of your hard work, dedication and advocacy for victims and survivors! Happy New Year!
Mr. Mango, your insights are great. I couldn't imagine a video without your input.
Man. When his father said "98, living out her days" i broke down crying...
I had to pause the video at that point.
It’s actually terrifying that a teenager is capable of doing this and it’s scary that we’re living in a society like this .
"wE lIvE iN a SoCiEtY"- the joker
You ever seen the movie “We need to talk about Kevin” ? That’s what’s been going on. Some parents get these kids and see the signs and often don’t do anything about them until it’s too late or sometimes they still try to defend their demon spawn
Do not for one second think that kids are angels. That’s what parents fail miserably; educate and discipline them.
He’s a whole grown man, no kid
Teens have always been this way. Especially adolescent males of all mammalian species.
Look up teen dolphins or teen lions. It biological. All mammals have this issue with teen males. There’s no point in avoiding teen monkeys or apes either. It’s all mammals. Something about male adolescents causes them to be violent, especially in groups.
His only emotion is self pitty, not even sadness, just pitty. Like "look at me, I am so sad and sorry and innocent because whoopsie, I committed this horrible crime and I can't control myself. Poor me and if not me, my poor parents 🥺" definitely a sociopath... This is insane!!
I have a grandma who is 97 years old right now. Last week she broke her hip while sitting on a couch. Cant imagine anyone wanting anything sexual with her and can't picture her going through such pain and stress . Omg. She is so fragile. This is beyond evil
How do u break ur hip while siting down 😢😢I am sorry I pray for a good recovery
@sarahdavidking weak bones, probably.
I’ve never seen a psychopath from their own perspective! What he wrote on that jornal was exactly him trying to reason with himself about being a psychopath. I feel so bad for Margaret, I hope he be locked up forever.
He used WHAT as a lubricant? This whole case is soooo wrong and disgusting
Gross.. just gross..
Yeah this whole thing is disgusting but at least use cooking oil. I regret bringing peanut butter and grape jelly sandwich for lunch now because now this is going to pop in my head while I'm trying to eat.
@@jessehardin8500uhh cooking oil?
He use jam
That jam that most people or young people use to put on bread
@@estellernmiambanzila9653 no shit
It disgusts me to even think that a 16 year old can do something so cruel 💔
right..
Just wait to hear what Jon Venables and Robert Thompson did to James Bulger.
@@zorionpinkquestion, were you listening to Kall me Kris’ true crime video?
100% psychopath & addicted to corn
you should see high schoolers these days..omg
Some people are just sick to do this to a elderly lady
or to anybody
@ Exactly people are so sick in the head
'Sick' hardly covers it. 'Depraved', 'psychopathic'..there's a few words for this level of degenerate..
Not just an elderly lady, to anybody in general. To do something like that to someone it's just awful
Of course it's "to anyone", however things always seem a little worse when it involves children or elderly,bc they're so vulnerable.. Obviously no one wants something like this to happen to ANYONE..
the sickest part of this case imo is that he applied to a funeral home before actually doing it like that literally shows this shit was planned and it shouldve been (if it wasnt already) used in court. he knew what he was doing and he was gonna do it again and keep abusing/assaulting that women's corpse
As someone who's already seen this case, I was still excited to watch it from your POV. I feel like these types of cases can be presented in 3 ways 1) Documentation 2) psychological analysis 3) Directed storytelling. I feel like you cover the third style in a way others don't. I appreciate it :)
I know for a fact his fellow inmates recently put him in the hospital. This guy is a monster, and the inmates in the privileged unit he is in were disgusted that he was given special treatment.
As a Christian, I'm not supposed to be happy about hearing this, but.......
@@KathiePrater-n6dyou are... it's ok
Lol right there with you@@KathiePrater-n6d
Thank you for sharing! I'll sleep a little better knowing that 😴
Well, the comments above are proving Norway’s way for prisons is better.
the title is wild.. a 16 yo doing that to a 98 yo? that wouldn't be anything anyone would expect, this is going to be such a wild story.
In France it already happens between deranged Quoicoubeh and hospitalized old women
my jaw kept dropping as i continued reading the title…like what is this world
@whitediamonds444 i had the same reaction
I saw a different case where a guy about 20 raped an elderly woman for hours. Because their skin is so thin she bruised so bad and turned black. She went into a coma and got septic shock and had her arms and legs amputated..She did survive and did an interview.
He was doing work on her house and went back late at night high on meth and knocked on the door.
Really.. I am just scared to watch this tbh
I’ve heard of this case before on Mooshi’s channel. What the hell is wrong with people? The fact that he tries to hide and excuse the disgusting bullshit he did to this poor woman is beyond me. May she rest peacefully; my heart goes out to her friends and family.
I know, what he actually did is way worse than how he makes it seem. The profile description was so disgusting how young men can do such acts and pretend to be all spiritual.
He’s clearly antisocial, psycho or sociopathic
Its appalling his dad cries and his mom sits there stoned face. There is something weird af about her too
She was just not surprised her son would do something like this. Not the exact crime but she probably thought he's gonna do something that will land him in jail.
this is why women say they’d choose the bear. Bears don’t murder 98 year old women for the express purpose of R’ing them.
So no one is safe… Not even the elderly. Women will never find peace
I haven't watched it yet but my heart goes out to the family of the victim, I hope he gets punished appropriately
Rest In Peace
Forever victimized by monsters who surround us
They violate every one
@@mikelund327that doesn’t stop them. Your comment screams victim blaming.
@@Al-Vr-al and get mad when we're wary
@@mikelund327you're genuinely a vile human if you're defending that monster. These types of people will find a way to do what they want regardless. Oh, and also, you people always try to come up with excuses, "she must've been giving him signs," "what was she wearing?", "she should've done this or that". Ya'll blame anyone but the actual criminals. Not to mention the fact that she's 98 YEARS OLD
Happiest New Year to you & your fam! 🎊🎊🥂🥂Wishing you continued success in 2025. & ty for being my fave RUclipsr 🥰
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It wasn’t to catch a predator but it was a local predator catcher. I found out My best friend of 10 years had been caught trying to meet up with a 13 year old at 2am. He was 31. He had a (at the time) 3 year old daughter. They streamed it live on Facebook. He didn’t get arrested but did get socially shunned, fired from his job etc. i had some…choice words… for him once i found out and havnt talked to him since. It broke me but im glad he was caught.
It's best you found out, imagine if you yourself or someone in your friend group were to have a 13 yo child some day and you think you could trust him to be alone with them... that'd be so scary and potentially dangerous. A community deserves to know who the predators are.
glad you found out before it was too late. still hurts like hell to lose your best friend like that 😢
That must have been devastating to hear. I’m so sorry. Is his daughter now in the care of somebody else?
They should investigate you as well
@@Shin-r5j for what
honestly i hate the juvenile excuse for his psychopathic behavior. plus he's surrounded by people who look away at his actions, he grew up that way, and if he was a CHILD chasing his siblings around with a knife imo it's a telltale sign something's not alright. there's a difference between making a dumb mistake when you're young versus murdering an innocent woman horrifically and DOCUMENTING IT. he's the type of criminal that needs to STAY locked up 😭 plus he's highly manipulative, mimicking empathy & remorse is honestly inhuman.
Looking at her pictures in her more youthful years, knowing that her fate would land in the hands of 17 years worth of useless flesh, it is truly heart-breaking. When you said "81 years older than him", that was piercing. Even to imagine by all accounts that she was healthy and strong.
The father's reaction is genuinely broken. Imagine fathering something worse than a demon.
His dads reaction brought tears to my eyes. Hes the only one who seems to be natural in this very unnatural situation.
I remember this story. Just so so awful. Elderly abuse in any form is so infuriating. This poor sweet lady.
i appreciate that you handle these cases with care and tact. so far your channel is the only true crime channel i can tolerate, everyone else laughs and uses it to make jokes while putting on makeup. i love how kind you are to the victims and don’t joke
Lmfao
Those who do that, make jokes while discussing horrible situations reminds me of dancing nurses.
don't see how that's different from her true crime mukbangs 🥴.
@@shinkayeeyou mean the ones she stopped doing a good while ago ?
and that is why she stopped doing mukbang while discussing serious stories and or true crime.
His mother seems totally out of touch with who her son is. No, at 17, he's like this? We have no idea how to cure him.
He can’t blame Zoloft. That’s ridiculous. He might as well blame butter or toast. He is a monster.
it’s wild that a teenager can be so cruel. May the 98 year old rest in peace.
Y’all don’t understand most young men are virgins and women are out here getting pregnant at age 13 and shit. I’m not at all surprised about this story this is nothing y’all don’t understand how horny young men and boys can be younger women are out here having sex with older men.
:(( i hate cases like these so much. these make me sick to my stomach i don’t know how anybody could pray on the most vulnerable people in our society.
@khizes "Prey"
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@@justindenney-hall5875 no need for that gng.
real
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When a 17 year old goes this far… it’s way too late for rehabilitation!!
Y’all don’t understand most young men are virgins and women are out here getting pregnant at age 13 and shit. I’m not at all surprised about this story this is nothing y’all don’t understand how horny young men and boys can be younger women are out here having sex with older men.
I'm glad you pointed out the mums manner of interaction with him, I noticed it straight away. She's dismissive and detached and it drove him to insanity.
Stephanie! You are seriously THE best storyteller! I love how you act out peoples voices and expressions it really adds to the story.
As a young adult on Zoloft- that entire section was very difficult to listen to. I'm on it for anxiety and OCD, not depression, and on a much higher dose than 100mg. I've been on it for years and have never once had those kind of "aggressive symptoms". ... I know meds effect different people differently, but come on. Blaming the meds on this is silly.
Fr the Zoloft actually mellows me out. Without it I used to get dangerously angry at the drop of a hat.
i used to be on zoloft as well, and while it may not be the aggravating factor in crimes, there is certainly a correlation between teens on ssri’s and violent crimes. that’s doesn’t mean it’s never helpful, but it should certainly be discussed when weighing the pros and cons.
@@bnetwzAnd this correlation exists even controlling for other factors? Or simply when comparing all teens on ssris vs all teens not on ssris
It's silly, but they try because they've gotten people off by making such claims before.
A local highschool principal in my area lost his job precisely because of one of those online child predator trap accounts. I have no clue if hes been charged yet but there was enough evidence that he was was arrested and subsequently fired after all of it was published.
He def shouldn't have been around kids
WTF? HOW IS HE A HS PRINCIPAL?!
In NSW Australia the police sent out a missing persons report about an old man who disappeared while unsupervised. In the Facebook post the police were requesting the public to be on the lookout for him. However, the post had its comment's section removed because the people in the comments were reminding the police that the man who was missing was serving a prison sentence for taking the life of a woman in 2012.
THE POLICE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HELP IN THE MANHUNT FOR A KILLER OF WOMEN AND DIDN'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE WAS A CONVICTED MURDERER!!!!!!
Edit: her name was Amy Aiton.
I'm in Australia, I don't recall hearing about that one - is it in the past 5-6 or so years? Tbh I'm wondering if the police thought revealing that might result in the guy receiving a likely well-deserved thrashing (or more) before being reported. Still...
That's absurd. I believe you, but it's absurd that that's how they responded instead of acknowledging it.
Did he just kill them? Or was there more? Do you know the name of the case?
@bimates2690 curious myself. OP's comment only speaks to one count of murder - but suggests an escape as well if I'm reading it right...
Weird how there's no follow-up to requests for more information...
THE BEAR!!!!! I just saw another story of a lady who was graped by her dentist and only found out when the dr told her she's pregnant 😢 so THE BEARRRRR
As a carer, one of the last things I say to my clients is to lock their door after I leave . This is terrifying.
As someone who was on Zoloft and did definitely have “violet outbursts” as a teen. It was irritability more than anything and trauma forming. I would never have killed someone I would never have harmed someone. The mom using this as a defense for her son is actually horrifying and makes me question how many signs she saw of a psychopath.
As a mother, I couldn't imagine birthing a monster.
Thats probably bcoz monsters dont just pop up most times .There are always reasons ,usually environmental and genetic, which means a history in the family that carried on to the child .That means there are patterns, reasons ,cause and effect .only the rest that cant be explained are metaphysical reasons ,which is what you call birthing a monster ,meaning his soul already would be shaped this way,uninfluenced by anything that we can put are finger on
They're not birthed as monsters they are moulded into them, it's kinda hard to commit a crime in a pre-ambulatory stage.
He might be a psychopath that has an actual brain abnormality. That’s not an excuse- there’s lots of psychopaths who make themselves behave as if they care about other people- even if their feelings don’t engage in that-because they can figure out right and wrong logically even if they can’t emotionally.
@Maruzzela-l1u Dont use mental or disorders as an excuse. there will never be an excuse to murder someone.
These replies suck. Some people are born monsters plain and simple. You can’t rehabilitate them.
the zoloft defence is wild because he never even gave the medication a proper chance with his level of substance abuse. you need to be sober (cali sober is fine to an extent) to allow it to work as alcohol is a depressant! i learnt this the hard way with my meds!
Ikr it took like a half a year for my prozac to do it's job at first it made me have severe episodes of depression and anxiety that would subside into calmness. You gotta be sober for them to work. One time I did DPH as a call for help and I had WAYY more reactions to a point where I was scared for my life.
My jaw dropped when he said he broke into cars because it’s their fault for leaving them unlocked …. Previously the man on the phone with the police said Margaret always left her door unlocked. That’s so sad. People can be so awful.
Being able to live not only to 98 but ALONE. She seemed like an absolute light. Everyone in the neighborhood had nothing bad to say. She kept to herself, fended for herself and was still physically able. Rest in Peace Margaret. How can a teen be so cruel. HIs mom just rubs me the wrong way, the dad seemed the most sympathetic towards Margaret.
This case is so disgusting. That women only had two more years until she was 100, but a child not only killed her but did these gross acts to her. This world is so cruel I hope all the familys involved are ok cause what he did was just disgusting...
Not even that, just a single year (she was just about to turn 99)
she was basically 99 since she had a few months left until her birthday
I remember when this case broke. I appreciate your thorough review of it. You always include all the details others skip over.
This is not someone capable of rehabilitation. People tell you who they are and the courts above all, should listen.
Thank you Stephanie and happy new year.
A guy I knew for 20 years got caught by one of these groups. Never would have known he was like that. He self excited 3 days later
Seeing those pictures of her and knowing how happy she was to turn 99, just made this so much worse. She lived 18 years without the love of her life but was still so happy to be alive anyway. I hope, if there is an afterlife, that she’s with him again and happy like she deserves❤
he is basically blaming that poor old lady
I always find these intros so interesting. It is an interesting opening but you have NO IDEA where the hell the story is gonna go from there!
Wish you a happy new year, Stephanie, hubby and the rest of the Rotten Mango crew! ❤
He is 1000% playing up to get out on parole. He reminds me of an extreme manipulator that I have the misfortune to know very well.
Parents are enablers and it’s disgusting how they tried to defend his actions. Plenty of people use Zoloft and don’t sa elderly women. He deserves to never get out of prison.
was only his mom, the dad seems disgusted
@@swaguchiha3508his dad raised him just like she did, if you gotta judge one judge the other
His dad is the only one who expressed sympathy for that poor lady, the mom is there blaming Zoloft
I don’t feel like there is enough information for me to make a proper judgement but from the clips I saw the mother and home life just seems terrible, If you have a son who is committing petty crimes and you put him on a routine, don’t let him outside and make him sleep next door to you that child will of course act out, now of course ‘acting out’ and doing what he did are very different but I think that could be a catalyst, when a kid who struggles with mental health issue has a drunkard father and a over controlling mother and feels like he can’t share anything their mental health will continue to deteriorate until critical
true
She was almost 100 😢
May she rest in peace she didn’t deserve that 😭😭😭
The thought that ANYONE in their right mind would Over turn a life sentence for such evil!!! Is Mind blowing! How can anyone THAT ignorant be in charge of such laws!!?
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As a 15 yr old how tf does a 16 year old have so much evil in them do some bs like this? It’s actually wild, idk, I’ve seen alot of cases but this might just be my breaking point
You're only 15 dont watch yhis stuff. Its very dark you dont know how it effects you at a young age.
@ lmao thank you for your concern but I’ve seen a huge amount of different cases at a young age that I probably shouldn’t be watching but yeah, I’m kind of just into it now. I’ve taken mental breaks here and there but I’m fine.
@@izzyjp_just be careful! ur very young and the internet is scary 😭 ik uve probably heard it 1000 times.. but its true! i started watching true crime at a young age too and while it was fascinating i definitely saw things i shouldnt have
@@briamaries definitely and I get where you’re coming from, I learned the hard way when one day I thought I was going insane, but I just never took a break from dark topics and had it all stacked up. I deleted twitter and stayed on the happy side of tik tok and RUclips. I feel better than I did before. Thank you for your concern!💕
@@izzyjp_ Am his age and shocked
I gave birth to a son 3 years ago. My greatest fear is to one day be told i messed up by way of him hurting or abusing another person. I can NOT empathize with that mother. What shes doing is blame shifting and trying to keep face. Im even more concerned for the children that are still stuck in the house. Their father seems to be ok but "the family name" is something ive only really heard from male sides of a family. Im not saying their mom couldnt have said it, but her maiden name isnt their family name.
She didnt unalive that woman, but she did the bare minimum and believes shes in the right.
I hope and hope that i do better. For my son and for everyone he interacts with as a grown man.
If I ever have kids and they do something even CLOSE to this, DISOWNED. I can't imagine raising my child for so long for them to be such a monster.
I completely agree with you. These types of people are nearly always a product of an abusive family dynamic. They don't just just "wake up " one day like that. It happens when you've been pushed so hard by your caregivers that you snap.
As a mother of 3 boys and a girl i remind my kids often to hold each other accountable and respect each others boundaries. As well as the fact that my job as a mother is to teach them how to but i can only provide them the tools ect they are the one responsible at the end of the day for their actions "when mom looks away." Not saying the mother couldnt have done better but i definitely dont hold her accountable for her sons actions.
On the topic of stings for crimes against minors:
I was pregnant with my almost 11 year old child. One morning I get woke up by my husband asking the name of my OB. I groggily confirmed it only to be told that I need to call the office and get a new one. Those poor ladies that day... It was chaos for them. My OB had been arrested in a sting in another state and admitted to a plan with an underaged boy. Needless to say he essentially went straight to lockup for a while. My husband's friend shared the article and that's how he saw it.
It's so devastating and terrifying to think that someone so close to my age, a literal teenager is capable of committing such vile inhumane acts
That’s crazy. I’m 17 and I never imagine someone do this.
DID I READ THE TITLE RIGHT?
Sadly, yeah
The fact that I had to re-read it multiple times😶😶 I opened the comment section only to pull it down and continue to read the title 🙆🏻♀️
Unfortunately, yes
Yes, although, incorrect. It’s desecration.
Unfortunately…
It's not coercion. The decoys don't reach out to the predators, the predators always make the first move and the decoys always say they're age right away and they talk normally. It's the p predators that talk all nasty and freaky like.
i haven’t even started the video, but the title already makes me so sad for this woman :(
This society we live in really isnt looking out for victims 😢
this kid is too far gone for sure, taking his time to violate this poor old lady, in the most vicious and disgusting of ways, he should be dating, studying for exams ect, his Mum seemed not suprised by her darling spawns actions,where as the Dad was melting down. she calls him compassionate. either he is good at faking emotions, or she is a pychopath too.
You should discuss Sarah Sands case. I was incredibly moved by her story. She moved to a new neighbourhood as a single mother of 5. Her neighbour was an elderly man who she trusted. She had checked the sex offenders register but it said no one in her area. Turns out her elderly neighbour who she trusted to babysit when she had to work late ect. Was actually a convicted pedophile with 24 other convicted of sexual offences (however his convictions were before the register came out). Additionally there had been multiple calls to the police, complaining about people witnessing him being inappropriate with young boys. He additionally had a job working around children, and people had called complaining to his employers about inappropriate behaviour too, however the police wouldn’t release his criminal record to his work place as it was “private information”🙄, since he committed them before the sex offenders registry became a thing.
This elderly neighbour had been regularly SAing 3/5 of Sarah’s children. Her 12 year old son, and her two 11 year old twin sons. She reported it to the police, but her sons were ashamed and she ended up stabbing him because he wouldn’t just admit it and she didn’t want her sons to suffer through trial, nor did she want him free to do it to others.
The most moving part of this story though, was that she was convicted, had her sentence more than doubled to about 8 years and she never told the public or the court that it was her songs who were SA’d, because they felt shame about it and she didn’t wanna put them through it, even though it would of lessened her prison time. It wasn’t til her songs were well into there 20’s that they came out about it all. She allowed them to do it on their own terms, as a victim should.
The saddest thing tho, is that her sons stated they felt guilty for ever telling their mum, because they would have preferred to suffer than have there mum taken away from them😭 they stated they felt it was their fault she was taken away from them. It’s just so emotionally moving. They really communicate the victim experience and the mum is just a bloody soldier. She protected her kids in every way.
Sometimes you gotta forfeit the rules to do the right thing.
I remember watching something about that. She didnt say anything about her sons' abuse in court because she didn't want to say anything before they were ready 😢
I cannot stand the "antidepressants made me do it" defense, I've been on zoloft, prozac and Lexapro from 12 to 18, all three I've seen come up commonly with this terrible defense and never once did I think about murdering someone or anything close to what this kid did. I understand these medications affect people differently but I do not believe they can cause homicidal thoughts. Suicidal? Yes, I had to stop zoloft because it made me worse but never once did I want to murder someone. It's a terrible excuse. Being mentally ill doesn't magically make everything you do not your fault.
As someone who was on Zoloft for years dosing from 25mg to 300mg… I was never counseled on the side effect of necrophilia. A crazy excuse.
Literally
We gotta stop with the "not completely developed brain" in these cases. Yes, it is still developing but it does not justify THESE actions, it might juatify reckless behaviour, misconduct, maaaaaybe some petty theft like shoplifting, but not necr****lia, abuse of a corpse and all those things he was accused of and commited.
This is sad… I’m glad to see you again Steph!❤
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This is just demonic 🤦🏾♀️💔
I'm not half way through, and I'm out
@@shyg9250 wise choice, this shit's fucked up
Yep definitely demonic
I don’t really believe in any of that demonic stuff but I fully agree on this one 😭🙏🏽
This is one of the most insane cases I've ever heard. I can't imagine how anyone could be so vile to do that to anyone but especially not to an elderly woman
There is NO defence for what this man child did. His Mother is despicable.
Her intros are always EPIC!!! It draws you in. I was almost late for work 😂😂😂
The fact that he could commit such a dispicable, hanous crime and have the wherewithal to be home before his mom wakes up to me shows that he knew exactly what he was doing. He is a sociopath, not a psychopath and he is no more than a manipulative, entitled killer paving his path to get out on parole and continue to do horrendous things. No, just no.
Going by how crimes are “rated” (from mild to worse), he’s just a murderer. Something that pop up a lot. Especially where someone lives.
Reminds me of Jon Venables.
As someone that works in long-term care this case breaks my heart. To get to 98 and still live alone is crazy strong. I just cant wrap my mind around why someone would ever do thist to someone so so old and vulnerable
Had to stop and stare at the yarn and hook in my hands when she read out that he crochets in prison, as if my half finished laptop case had just betrayed me
Thank you for illustrating the story of Margaret. She sounded like a wonderful person. She deserved happiness, and to be remembered for her positive traits and not for her murderer. I hope her soul rests in peace with her husband.
Sounds like he is very aware of his thoughts ,actions and wants but he is so aware that he knows exactly how to act to be perceived a certain way . He is probably just pretending that he doesn’t know anything
On God, I'm not shocked that women chose a bear