MP Series Switch Motors For Model Railroad Turnouts Tortoise Product Spotlight
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hello John & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks John Friends Randy
I am a fan of the turnouts.
Now I don't have to order these from the UK any longer!!
MP motors are great, I plan to use them for my yard , great video John
Great video, thanks guys! I'm excited about installing these on my layout. The multiple methods of adjustment when installing AND the small overall size sold me on this switch motor. Oh, and the connector! The fact that I can pre-wire the connector and easily remove it for troubleshooting is a bonus! They're less expensive than the Tortoise too!
Wow, these look great! First time I have seen these. thank you for sharing this video!
I was thinking of using seep motors from the UK on my ttrak modules I'm building but I might go with these instead now after watching this video
I had never heard of these. Great solution to layout thickness over conventional switch motors. Thx
Excellent video. I used MP1s on a small OO Scale British outline layout and they were brilliant. What I’d like to know is if anyone has used these on HOn3 which is what I mainly model, have they worked well and what notched did you use to get around the smaller throw?
How about a simplified wiring diagram for us who are "electrical schematic" challenged? How to wire this machine for two LEDs as you have in this video AND how to wire for polarity change at a powered frog. Thank you.
I hope you can do a follow up on this video talking about the different MTB/MP motors and their practical differences. I am bad at reading diagrams. ^^
I'll be happy to come back and talk about the rest of the product line if John will have me!
I'm prepping to build the layout. I've been pondering on what to do in the switch machine department, manual control, blue point, tortoise, and now these. Is it possible to use a momentary, or is it confined to a regular style switch for operating?
They explained in the video how to install it.
But if you are only going to have a push button, then you need one for each track position and that you hold the button until the switch engine has stopped making noise, if you release the button before the switch engine is ready, it stops in the wrong position.
You have to get a little creative in the way it is connected so that there is power throughout the time the switch engine needs to move, this can be solved in many ways.
rando: the MP only moves for about 2.5 seconds at 12V, so you can use push buttons if you remember to hold the momentary button for 2.5 seconds. This makes for very simple multi-point control: just put a pair of buttons at every location you'd need throw the motor from (saw both sides of a peninsula).
Will these work with Atlas switch controllers?
MP Motors are a good solution. They do however not work if one needs to position them right next to the switch. The rod between the Motor and the switch need to be able to flex allowing the MP Motor its full length of travel.
JS: that is why I recommend music wire. I think I've got the guys at MTB convinced, too but I think they've got a warehouse full of rigid pins
Piano (Music) wire is certainly much better and would help if you install the Motor on the side of the switch like with a Märklin Motor. Since the actuating rod in such an installation would only be about 1.5-3 cm long it would only work if a V shaped Bent is in the rod giving it flexibility. @@UPNilesCyn
@@JSVideoUTube: good point and that is what I was demonstrating in the video, there's no magic to centering the motor other than it's the standard method with a Tortoise. For example it is hard to center most twin coil solenoid machines. I haven't found a V or Z bend necessary in most under-table cases (but handy on top side mounting).
John there other switch machines, I use Walthers switch machines on my main line
Walthers' are basically servos. We also make servo controllers, stall motor controllers and twin coil controllers and there are pros and cons to all of them.
@@UPNilesCyn yes they are , they work great I only stated there are other switch machines , Walthers makes everything for their switch machines
The problem I have is the website doesn't really make it clear why there's so many different versions and what they do
Really quick: the MP1 has a single contact, usually used for frog power, so it's handy when you've got a switch you can't reach but don't care about lighting LEDs or indicating position to a layout control system. MP4, 5 and 10 are functionally similar (with 2 contacts that is it's DPDT) but have different form factors. MP5 is an older design which is being phased out as soon as some production issues with MP4 are resolved. MP4 is the direct replacement for MP5, the main difference being a more useful connector (4,5 and 10 come with removable connectors). MP10 is the same as MP4 electrically but has the footprint of a tortoise, making it handy as a drop in replacement or if you have jigs or mounts for tortii and want to continue to use them. We cover that about 5 minutes before the end of the video.
Do the springs in a Peco or Walthers turnout need to be removed?
Usually, yes.
On the Peco I've seen, moving the plastic part that holds the spring can be enough to soften the spring.
Don't know what it looks like today on Peco's switches.
The MPs are pretty torquey so they can push thru the over-center springs. You may have to play a little with size if using music wire. I'd recommend removing the over-center springs on the turnouts as the movement is smoother and looks better to me. YMMV.
Any thing Available table top?
I didn't mention on the show, but MP motors are easy to install on top of the layout. They are very small so they lend themselves to being hidden in lineside structures.