Bruford Live @ The Venue 8/5/79

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  • @zenstain
    @zenstain Месяц назад +2

    This is the best group ever assembled. Each of these guys are an absolute master and STILL this band exceeds the sum of their parts. Amazing.

  • @ANTHONYCUSHEN
    @ANTHONYCUSHEN 2 месяца назад +3

    Allan. Alongside Gong and with Bruford. He even sounded happy! Any Allan was astonishing. This period eh, what pure joy.

  • @Oenloveslife
    @Oenloveslife 2 месяца назад +5

    Wow Martin Westwood! I dream of any previously unheard Holdsworth recordings (I've got about 30 records of his/with him on them) and here we are! Thank you! And hearing Berlin, and Bruford, and Stewart in this snapshot is also stunning! Massive thank you!

  • @wallisliss
    @wallisliss 8 месяцев назад +11

    Dave Stewart and his lead fishing weights holding down the organ keys for dronepad goodness. I asked him a year or two ago whether he still had them. They sit with reverence on a mantle in his home in England!

  • @aharchives
    @aharchives 9 месяцев назад +30

    Tracklist, comments and corrections welcome:
    0:08 Hell’s Bells
    4:27 Sample And Hold
    11:01 Fainting In Coils (part 1)
    17:38 Back To Beginning (guitar solo)
    19:56 Fainting In Coils (part 2)
    22:11 Forever Until Sunday
    29:43 Joe Frazier
    34:53 One Of A Kind
    44:47 Travels With Myself - And Someone Else
    52:47 Beelzebub
    56:20 The Sahara Of Snow
    1:11:12 Five G

    • @paulkent8731
      @paulkent8731 9 месяцев назад +5

      The Sahara of Snow segues into "Adios a la pasada (Goodbye to the Past)"

    • @aharchives
      @aharchives 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@paulkent8731 Yeah, I missed that! Pretty obvious now looking at the timestamps.

  • @johnbull333
    @johnbull333 6 месяцев назад +3

    I remember at the concert in The Agora Ballroom, at 5 mts. From YOU, eye to eye, You throw me the stick of your piece of work, but a friend of mine told me... Hey watch that beautiful girl beside You, SO i turno My head to the girl, and i missed catching the stick of your drums, and some body els got it . I was so mad that i hit My friend. Becose y missed catching the stick thanks You throw too me. I Will never forget that moment. Shit. ❤

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 8 месяцев назад +5

    I saw this band but with John Clark on guitar at Painters Mill Music Fair in Maryland. I think it was 1980

    • @jefferyroy2566
      @jefferyroy2566 6 месяцев назад +1

      Saw John Clark version about the same time. Missed seeing Allan, but had caught him in 1978 with UK.

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jefferyroy2566 I regret never seeing Allan live. UK was such a fantastic band.

    • @jefferyroy2566
      @jefferyroy2566 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Darrylizer1 Not to rub it in, but the opening act for UK was The Electromagnets, featuring Eric Johnson in his earliest recording group. The other time I saw Holdsworth was in an un-air conditioned back room at Fitzgerald's in Houston, August 1988. It was so hot, they had fans blowing over open chests of ice to cool the stage gear, from a safe distance, naturally. In the end, Ronnie Montrose played a fabulous openingset, and Allan was Allan. It was my hottest ever indoor entertainment experience, in a memorable way, not a good one.

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 6 месяцев назад

      @@jefferyroy2566 Haha, pretty cool! (Except for Houston with no air conditioning, yikes!)

  • @guitarcht
    @guitarcht 9 месяцев назад +11

    Cool to hear Holdsworth improvising like he always wanted to - never play the solo from the studio recording. Thx!

    • @joanstone6740
      @joanstone6740 8 месяцев назад

      is everybody sure this isn't the unknown John Clark

    • @frizzonofficial
      @frizzonofficial 8 месяцев назад

      28:40 Bruford mentions Holdsworth to the audience. @@joanstone6740

    • @Stewart.Gaskin
      @Stewart.Gaskin 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@joanstone6740 Dave Stewart here - It's Allan Holdsworth :)

    • @joanstone6740
      @joanstone6740 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you huge admirer of yours dave so creative melodic textural love everything you do@@Stewart.Gaskin

  • @kramkalisthenics
    @kramkalisthenics Месяц назад +4

    Oh wow! Thank you for this gold!

  • @VegasCyclingFreak
    @VegasCyclingFreak 8 месяцев назад +7

    Jeff Berlin is really on point on this gig

  • @kevgamble
    @kevgamble 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for sharing this! Among other things, a nice treat to hear Joe Frazier with Holdsworth!

  • @MikkelGrumBovin
    @MikkelGrumBovin 7 месяцев назад +2

    Gold ! 🥲

  • @martincoles6824
    @martincoles6824 8 месяцев назад +3

    Hey Martin, I was there too, that night at The Venue. Holdsworth, Berlin, Bruford and THE Dave Stewart - what a band! And ofcourse they played their hearts out. They returned the next year with John Clark (Holdsworth I believe quit after 20 May 1979) still amazing, just not quite so amazing! Thanks for sharing this.

  • @Ashanath-Music
    @Ashanath-Music 9 месяцев назад +8

    Hell yea some Allan I haven't heard yet. Thank you and subscription 🙏 🙌 ❤

  • @galbaribeirodefaria6104
    @galbaribeirodefaria6104 7 месяцев назад +4

    It's great! Thanks a lot!! From BRAZIL!!!

  • @walterevans2118
    @walterevans2118 9 месяцев назад +3

    GREAT rendition of FOREVER UNTIL SUNDAY

  • @agus6115
    @agus6115 Месяц назад +2

    Holdsworth on an early version of Joe Frazier?! 🤯

  • @kevthebass
    @kevthebass 9 месяцев назад +4

    Jeff Berlin plays dixie at 17:56, years before his solo Cd.

    • @joanstone6740
      @joanstone6740 8 месяцев назад

      The always corny Jeff Berlin

  • @robertkaye5434
    @robertkaye5434 6 месяцев назад +2

    Many thanks for this! Rare to find/hear a live recording of this 4tet with Holdsworth (R.I.P.). Having said that, their gig in Boston with John Clark is quite remarkable!

  • @thomasbridges7323
    @thomasbridges7323 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wow nice

  • @bradking1536
    @bradking1536 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for sharing hope you are well God loves you deeply shalom 🤗🐼♥️✝️💐 Philippians 4:8

  • @Fender73472
    @Fender73472 9 месяцев назад +3

    What a résumé
    Yes
    King crimson
    Genesis
    Bruford
    Earthworks 🎉

    • @bogeybast
      @bogeybast 8 месяцев назад

      He even joined Gong on a European tour.

  • @Fender73472
    @Fender73472 9 месяцев назад +6

    One of a kind tour?
    Saw this in the USA 1979 Allan left the band so the “unknown “ John Clark joined.😮and did a good job.

    • @jonp4846
      @jonp4846 9 месяцев назад

      I did as well, at a small venue in Providence, RI, called Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel (Lupo's to those that frequented the place). Seems like yesterday, although it was a lifetime ago.

    • @Fender73472
      @Fender73472 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jonp4846 it was a lifetime ago, but it was the peak of jazz fusion music..

    • @evetsnitram8866
      @evetsnitram8866 4 месяца назад

      I saw John Clark a couple times in Hollywod with Bruford and he was having more fun with it. Holdsworth sounds like his heart wasn't in it here, could be he had short timers wanting to do his own music.

  • @leslieottaviano5749
    @leslieottaviano5749 8 месяцев назад +3

    wow what a treat and the tech details. cool. Cheers

  • @randyroten
    @randyroten 7 месяцев назад +2

    Mr. W, thank you so very kindly for sharing this excellent recording of a one-time event.

  • @pobinr
    @pobinr 8 месяцев назад +3

    Well done. I saw Allan a few months later with Nucleus in Southampton. How I wish I had a tape of that !

  • @daveinma1107
    @daveinma1107 9 месяцев назад +2

    The "Live at the Venue" CD was recorded the following year, with John Clark having stepped into the guitarist slot after Holdsworth bailed out after the UK/France legs of the '79 tour.

    • @Stewart.Gaskin
      @Stewart.Gaskin 6 месяцев назад +1

      Dave Stewart here. Allan handed in his notice on March 31st 1979 but agreed to stay on for the UK tour (May 5th- 20th), partly because press ads had already listed him as a Bruford band member. He recommended guitarist John Clark, who joined us for the French tour starting on May 26th and stayed until Bill broke up the band in 1980.

  • @walterevans2118
    @walterevans2118 9 месяцев назад +3

    WOW !! 😯😮

  • @danaporteous1302
    @danaporteous1302 9 месяцев назад +7

    Martin, Superbly done. Thank you so very much for sharing this amazing group of musicians at the top of their game. Encore!!

  • @jackriddle1135
    @jackriddle1135 8 месяцев назад +2

    Best Christmas present....🎉😅😊...thanks Martin !

  • @leo78915
    @leo78915 8 месяцев назад +4

    alan holdworth就是想盡辦法用吉他彈john coltrane即興樂句的吉他手!Holdsworth 是位用腦型的吉他手!智商頗高天賦尚可

    • @randyroten
      @randyroten 7 месяцев назад

      "Allan Holdsworth is a guitarist who tries his best to play John Coltrane's improvisational phrases on the guitar! Holdsworth is a cerebral guitarist! He has a high IQ and is quite talented. "(thank you Google Translate)

  • @lesgoe8908
    @lesgoe8908 9 месяцев назад +5

    Great posting. Thank you for sharing your secret stash.

  • @jeffreyjordan5325
    @jeffreyjordan5325 8 месяцев назад +5

    This is excellent, thank you! The more you turn it up, the better it sounds! Brilliant!

  • @markrobinson8410
    @markrobinson8410 9 месяцев назад +5

    This is one of the best live recordings i ever heard!

  • @andreistroe4140
    @andreistroe4140 6 месяцев назад +1

    superb, thanks.

  • @walterevans2118
    @walterevans2118 9 месяцев назад +6

    JEFF wrote some great BASS HOOKS in JOE FRAZIER there ....(Sorry ,,,,Terrible Joke ) 🥴😖

    • @jkdbobby
      @jkdbobby 9 месяцев назад +1

      He wrote the tune.

  • @bobbyshroyer440
    @bobbyshroyer440 9 месяцев назад +5

    I saw this tour in Cincinnati in '79. A guy named John Clarke was the guitar player... Great show. I remember Bill telling the audience on one tune that 'this tune is designed to make you feel like you're falling off your chair'. Sure did...

    • @written12
      @written12 9 месяцев назад

      Wasn’t 1979 the year of that stampede at the Who concert at Riverfront?
      Nothing against the Who, but attending smaller shows, prog(ish), fusion shows is always a more pleasant experience. On a good night, rock concerts are always too crowded, noisy, rowdy etc

    • @bobbyshroyer440
      @bobbyshroyer440 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@written12Yep. I agree with you. A lot of my favorite shows/concerts were in small theaters or clubs. I will have to say tho, that three of my top concerts were in bigger "concert" venues. First time I ever even heard of Yes or even heard prog! '72. First time I ever heard fusion & Mahavishnu Orchestra! '72. First time I ever saw the mighty Zep! '75. The list is frightening! Lol

    • @rickvenlo1362
      @rickvenlo1362 8 месяцев назад

      And which tune was that?
      Do you recall?

    • @bobbyshroyer440
      @bobbyshroyer440 8 месяцев назад

      Sorry, I don't. I wish I did. But then again, don't they all? Lol​@@rickvenlo1362

    • @bogeybast
      @bogeybast 8 месяцев назад

      Truth Has A Sliding Floor?

  • @rickvenlo1362
    @rickvenlo1362 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fabulous indeed!!

  • @tallpity4646
    @tallpity4646 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks so much, Martin. Great pleasure - I´m speechless!

  • @MrThomas1958
    @MrThomas1958 8 месяцев назад +2

    cool

  • @pdpatdeschamps29
    @pdpatdeschamps29 9 месяцев назад +4

    I always wanted to hear this work ! Thank you for sharing ❤🙏🎶

  • @jeffreycollier1059
    @jeffreycollier1059 8 месяцев назад +2

    Love it! Thank You so much! Mr. Westwood, the audio is great!!!

  • @jdc6681
    @jdc6681 9 месяцев назад +2

    Wonderful! What a great gig you had back then. Thanks so much for sharing this!

  • @RonWinter335
    @RonWinter335 9 месяцев назад +6

    Sweet! Thanks!

  • @felixmarciano8661
    @felixmarciano8661 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful !!!! Unbelievable !!! My many many tanks for this present, Martin !

  • @winstonschwarz1636
    @winstonschwarz1636 9 месяцев назад +4

    Nice one mate. Berlin is actually great on here. Allan sounds hesitant and kinda microtonal. Dave is one of my heros. Bill is unique. Always interesting. Love the Roto Toms. Many thanks.

    • @johnsharp71
      @johnsharp71 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's John Clark on guitar, not Allan.

    • @emmadetten
      @emmadetten 9 месяцев назад +4

      nah it's Allan. The peak of his whammy days. And also, they only play joe frazier from gradually going tornado, and he doesn't quite nail it

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  9 месяцев назад +4

      Sorry to correct but I was FOH engineer on this tour and it`s definitely Allan@@johnsharp71

    • @johnsharp71
      @johnsharp71 9 месяцев назад +3

      Happy to apologise to you, Allan and Winston.
      I was casually listening in the kitchen on my laptop, thinking it was from the 1980 shows that Bruford did with Brand X at The Venue - all of which I attended; John Clark was definitely playing on those!
      Alas, I never got to hear Allan play live.

    • @edbernardmusic3599
      @edbernardmusic3599 9 месяцев назад +1

      Hell's Bells solo threw me off. It's odd to hear Allan clam it up.@@johnsharp71

  • @aharchives
    @aharchives 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks a lot for posting this! I'll see if I can come up with a track list. NB! I notice when comparing a track to the studio version that this is pitched slightly below the album, which probably means that the cassette is running a wee bit too slow.

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  9 месяцев назад

      Or possibly the band playing live at a slightly different speed to the album ?

    • @aharchives
      @aharchives 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@mojacarman That would not affect the pitch. Analogue tape changes both speed and pitch when played faster or slower. There are a few other possible explanations. One is that the band tuned lower for the live gig. I find that very unlikely. (Not sure if Bill brought his tuned percussion on tour, but if he did they would tune to that.) The other possibility is that the studio tape was sped up. This happens sometimes, but most of the time it's due to the tape recorder as I suggest here. Cassette tape players and recorders are notorious for being off by a percent or two. And you don't notice until you play back on another deck.

  • @philippem4400
    @philippem4400 5 месяцев назад

    👍

  • @paulkent8731
    @paulkent8731 9 месяцев назад +3

    Not like there was a Peacock crooning, tho

  • @written12
    @written12 9 месяцев назад +3

    Did Dave Stewart, this Dave Stewart, play with one of the Canterbury prog bands?

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 9 месяцев назад +6

      Hatfield and the North and also National Health.

    • @BobRoss-gr9px
      @BobRoss-gr9px 9 месяцев назад +5

      ...also Egg.

    • @bogeybast
      @bogeybast 8 месяцев назад +3

      Also Uriel/Azachel AND Khan with THE Steve Hillage

    • @rickschmiderer1380
      @rickschmiderer1380 15 дней назад

      Yes he did 🌞

  • @royderousse718
    @royderousse718 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks, Martin! This sounds great. Is it available somewhere in a lossless (e.g. FLAC) format? Thanks again.

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  9 месяцев назад

      Nope, sorry just this version transferred from my original cassette tape to my pc without any enhancements

    • @royderousse718
      @royderousse718 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mojacarmanDepending on how you transferred it from tape to PC, you do have a lossless copy - for example, if you transferred it from tape to WAV files. RUclips does some compression when you upload it. Regardless, this show sounds fantastic. Thanks again!

  • @louise_rose
    @louise_rose 9 месяцев назад +1

    Not the more well-known Dave Stewart (would have been a very interesting combination to hear him with Bruford and Berlin!) but still a great band. :) Thank you!

  • @nogbadthebad2609
    @nogbadthebad2609 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks Martin this is fantastic, is this The Venue, Victoria Street, London. I saw Jan Akkerman play there in '84.

  • @andreistroe4140
    @andreistroe4140 6 месяцев назад +1

    where is this Venue?

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  6 месяцев назад

      It was in Victoria in central London

  • @stevehall2187
    @stevehall2187 8 месяцев назад +1

    Is this the same Martin Westwood who was the roadie for Byzantium?

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  8 месяцев назад

      Indeed it is, one & the same !

    • @stevehall2187
      @stevehall2187 8 месяцев назад

      @@mojacarman Don't know if you remember Steve from 584 ? Long time ago I know.

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  8 месяцев назад

      Hmm Steve, well yes I did work at the 584 for 2 years directly after leaving school but you will have to forgive my poor memory of those long off times !! If you want to jog my memory you can contact me on mojacarman@gmail.com @@stevehall2187

  • @john8451
    @john8451 8 месяцев назад

    Was this The Venue in New Cross? Is it still open? Last time I drove past it was all tribute bands.

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  8 месяцев назад

      No it was in Victoria St, Victoria, London

  • @user-se5zt4se4v
    @user-se5zt4se4v 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks!!! But why with 2 mics the recording is absolutely MONO?

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  8 месяцев назад +3

      Simple answer, in large venues a genuine stereo mix means audience at extreme left or right only get half of the sound

  • @nonchai
    @nonchai 9 месяцев назад +3

    thanks! - non-expert Q here: wouldnt it have been better to just take a direct stereo/mono feed/tap off the desk directly into the tape recorder?

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  9 месяцев назад +7

      Aah that depends. In this instance I was making reference tapes of each night`s shows for Bill and it was his preference to hear exactly what the audience was hearing. The thing is board tapes from smaller venues wouldn`t always be an accurate reflection because of stage levels affecting the actual board mix.

    • @written12
      @written12 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@mojacarman nice to hear that Bill realized the important thing to evaluate was how the audience was hearing the show.
      Too many concerts are either too loud, improperly balanced so you see a player (or 2 or 3) with an instrument in his hand but don’t really hear the damn thing.

  • @joanstone6740
    @joanstone6740 8 месяцев назад +1

    is everybody sure this isn't the unknown John Clark

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  8 месяцев назад +1

      If you listen at 1hr 9 mins you can hear Bill introduce the band members

    • @Snardbafulator
      @Snardbafulator 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@mojacarman Nobody would mistake John Clark for Allan after the first four notes. Clark had an absolutely abysmal, overprocessed tone.

    • @Stewart.Gaskin
      @Stewart.Gaskin 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, it's Allan.

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Dave, long time no see !!@@Stewart.Gaskin Hi Dave, long time no see !!

    • @Stewart.Gaskin
      @Stewart.Gaskin 6 месяцев назад

      @@mojacarman Hi Martin, hope you're keeping well! Best, Dave :)

  • @BobRoss-gr9px
    @BobRoss-gr9px 9 месяцев назад +3

    christ, could Berlin possibly overplay some more...and still nail the transitions? Not sure if I should be disgusted or impressed!

    • @joanstone6740
      @joanstone6740 8 месяцев назад +1

      Jeff Berlin is one of the greatest banjo players ever

    • @kevgamble
      @kevgamble 4 месяца назад

      You should be impressed. There are other places to go for fans of whole notes. :)

  • @stevewelovnick7064
    @stevewelovnick7064 8 месяцев назад

    Unknown Jon Clarke on this recording, Alan already had left the band.

    • @mojacarman
      @mojacarman  8 месяцев назад

      @mojacarman
      7 days ago
      If you listen at 1hr 9 mins you can hear Bill introduce the band members

    • @rickschmiderer1380
      @rickschmiderer1380 15 дней назад

      @@mojacarman
      Without the introduction, it’s clearly Alan

  • @Snardbafulator
    @Snardbafulator 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not a huge fan of the sound, though it's well-balanced and undistorted. But there's so little of this band live out there and I love this period of Holdsworth, post-SG but pre-Charvel.

  • @raymondkarlsson9794
    @raymondkarlsson9794 8 месяцев назад

    Great band but a Alan is a waste hete

    • @christheghostwriter
      @christheghostwriter 8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm unfamiliar with most of Bruford's work outside of Yes. What makes you say this about Alan?

    • @rickschmiderer1380
      @rickschmiderer1380 15 дней назад

      Disagree totally

  • @mkrpanixcom
    @mkrpanixcom 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is awesome. Thank you so much!