10:11 is probably one of the best moments of the season. Enjoy SCV all you want but there’s no denying that Mandies brought on the heat this year. Bravo.
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Recently auditioned for Genesis back in January and got cut and basically realized while I was at the camp it seemed like it just wasn't for me and its really a big commitment, staff wanted me to come back and audition again in November but I don't think I'm going to go back cause I'm trying to focus on school, but ever I got back from the audition I've just been pretty much stopped watching a lot of DCI stuff and I just don't know why, I just don't want this audition to take away my love for drum corps
I am very glad that they even made the top 10 this year, but, to give this show only 10th place was so very wrong. They deserved a better outcome then that. There are many rumors going around in DCI about the judges always playing favorites. If that is the case, then it's time to hire different, and better judges. There are quite a few Corps that deserve better scores than they keep getting.
Then someone needs to take a stand, and speak up for all the Corps that are always being scored unfairly. I have some of my own opinions on Corps that made better scores , and their show to me was quite boring, to say the least, but only made better scores, just because of who they were.
Delores - personally, I feel DCI has become similar to figure skating and their judging system. Until you have been around for a period of time (say, 15-20 years in each grouping section among the 23 world class corps, such as 1-6, 7-9, 10-12), don't count on moving up or down too much. A couple of years ago, the big fear was that Blue Devils would magically jump over Bluecoats for the 2016 title (fortunately, it did not happen). Same year, The Academy had one of the best performances of the season with their Drum Corpse Bride, and should have finished top 8, but had to settle for 11th. There are those out there that will justify the DCI judging system as being unbiased, but personally, I have to scratch my head and wonder what constitutes good music, uniforms (or "costumes") and choreography. I will admit that the 2017 judging, for the most part, was spot on (Blue Devils edging out Santa Clara Vanguard by 0.9th of a point, which is about where I figured the final placings would be, with all other corps lining up about where I expected them). I don't have any one particular favorite (since my old corps folded back in 1984), and am more interested in quality competition than hard core support of any one Corps. One of my personal favorites of 2017 was The Colts and their rendition of Judy Collins "Both Sides Now". The whole show connected with me more than any other that year.
Very nice Mario and Brandi. Nice to see your success. I miss the sport and teaching. It gave me the chills to see this. Corps sounds great and the guard looks fantastic.
Does anyone know the meaning behind the show? I know it’s about life after death but every movement is so dynamic and different I’d love to get more insight
The audience is desperate to be swept off their feet with this vibrant staging. The audience is desperate to be swept away by the story and to cheer and scream. But here, they are utterly confused. The girl dances herself to death. Did she agree to this? And then what... they take her white dress off and eulogize her and cart her off, then what? Where is she? She disappears. Where does she go? And why? Then the guys on stilts come out and everyone who is dressed completely in black plays True Colors by Cindy Lauper. What happened to the girl? Is it the same girl who discovers the lighted box at the end? How do we know it's the same girl? What's different at the end than the beginning, other than the upbeat music? At the end, where is the girl? Why is she upbeat now with a light box? What happened to make her change? At the very end, she's nowhere to be found,. This lack of clarity pushes the audience away. There's a story problem here. In Rite of Spring the girl is sacrificed by dancing to death so that Spring can come. Without her sacrifice, no Spring. We get it. But it's not clear in this production whether or not she agreed to be sacrificed, or if she is being sacrificed against her will. It's a mystery here. After all, it's kind of a harsh, misogynistic, medieval thing to sacrifice a girl to the gods so that Spring can come. That's such a male-dominated myth. It's so disempowering. What self respecting girl wants to sacrifice herself? None. Personally, I'd like to see her come back and slice the heads off of all the dominant males at the ceremony. I'd like her to torture them as punishment for making her sacrifice herself. Here's how the script should go: 1) Bring the fucking stage down center so we can see it, for fuck's sake . Girl is forced to dance herself death against her will. Guard members as ceremonial revelers around the circle are "whipping" her with long ribbons, forcing her to dance. She tries to escape the stage! The vicious male revelers shove her back on the stage and demand that she dance! Dance! Dance! They whip her some more as she dances and falls to her knees. She eventually collapses and dies. The male revelers viciously cheer and stomp on her! 2) But wait! The afterlife gurus on stilts come to save her, but too late, they mourn her lifeless body. They push away all the vicious revelers by using magical arm motions. The afterlife gurus on stilts mourn her body and bring her body down to the center of the stage with the help of their minions. They cover her with a tarp that allows her just enough room to secretly change costume underneath. She stays under mourning cloth. Will she ever emerge? 3) During true colors, with the help of the afterlife gurus on stilts, she comes alive, out from under the tarp, and she's reborn in full color. The afterlife gurus on stilts hand her the light box. She is whole again. 4) Final movement, the entire fucking ensemble flips their capes around to vibrant colors on the other side. They are transformed. The girl hugs the afterlife gurus on stilts and waves goodbye to them, and celebrates her post-mortal transformation. The male revelers who whipped her at the beginning suddenly burst into flames, with kabuki-like fabric flames coming out the sides of their costumes, unfurled and pulsated by kokens. They collapse. She celebrates. Only in dying and rebirth did she recognize her true power to say no to the male dominated ritual. She triumphs, and the evil male revelers are "sacrificed"-- she sacrifices them so that Summer may emerge. She controls the Rite of Summer now. END
I know that you did not just call a fucking DRUM CORP SHOW misogynistic. I know I’m over a year late but still, you’re looking to fucking deep into it. Just enjoy it for what it is
@@chorgnart Absolutely fucking not. This is a legitimate, college level activity and a sophisticated art form. They're playing strains of Stravinsky, for fuck's sake. Make the story make sense. Make it clear to the audience. In the professional world, vagaries are not tolerated. Especially if you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on an annual production budget. Abstract elements are fine, but the understructure of the story or pattern must be clear to the performers and to the audience. Their 2019 production was so much clearer, so much more defined.
I get that there's plot holes, I agree with that. But this show is most likely taking place in one of those older times, where people saw human sacrifice somewhat acceptable - trying to equate it to today's morals won't work, because it's not based on today's morals. It's entirely possible that the dancing girl accepted her fate, for the better of her community. In fact, how do you know she was forced to do the sacrifice? She just as well might have volunteered to be slain. On top of that, you cant force someone to dance - killing their families would not bring the start of spring, and killing her without her would not kick-start spring by itself. More importantly, most people aren't here for the story of a show. Sure, it's definitely part of the show, but it's not the whole reason people watch drum corps. They're watching for the brass, drum line, pit, and guard. They want to listen to music, with side of visual arts - and the scorecards reflect that. There's only one category geared around show design, out of 5 categories. So yes, while people may have lost track of the story, in the end it doesn't matter all that much because the vast majority of people don't care. They're here for DRUM CORPS, if they wanted a story they could have read a book or watched a movie. A lot of the show is left up to the viewer to decipher - I don't get HOW you made the show out to be against women, but whatever. I made it out to be about a girl accepting her death and awaiting her new life in the afterlife/next world/whatever. If you don't watch DCI that often, nowadays some shows are written ambiguous purposely to let the audience fill in the details, to make it "more meaningful" or something - I'm not the biggest fan when writers do that, but I still get my drum corps so I'm not complaining. The issue I take up with your comment is your VILE idea of a drum corps show. You call the original show misogynistic, but it's not really. They're sacrificing a girl, but not because they're anti-women or something. Plus, there are not only men sacrificing the dancer either! It's a whole society (of men AND women) trying to bring the start of spring to survive. Essentially, I'm trying to say the show was NOT centered on MEN killing a GIRL - It was centered on an carrying out a NECESSARY EVIL to survive. In contrast, your show idea MAKES THE SHOW MISOGYNISTIC. It was not centered around female empowerment before, but your show does. Additionally, you throw unnecessary violence into the show. Why would the men be whipping the girl? She had to dance to death, not be beaten to death. That would ruin the whole ritual, and "prevent spring from arriving" (remember, they wholly believed they needed to kill a virgin to start spring). In the original show, the corps was WATCHING her dance, not actively torturing her. And in your story, why the stomping? There's absolutely no reason to do that - they were sacrificing this girl for their god or deity or whoever. By stomping on her corpse, they would be insulting their religion/deity. All of that violence is the GIANT hole where your show crumbles, if you're so insistent on a good story. Your whole show revolves on a flawed beginning - the rest of the actions that occur have no reason to happen (Except the burning - perhaps if the men were killed by their deity for disrespect? But then the whole show would need a different story). Nobody wants to watch a misogynistic show - in fact, many would call it an invasion of SJW's into DCI, such as the Kathleen Kennedy stuff in Star Wars. The 2018 Mandarins did not perform a gross show as you say. But not only did you accuse them of doing so, but you made a "better show" where the ENTIRE SHOW was based on misogynistic values. Nobody wants to watch a production like that. It would be a disgusting reminder of many current issues, and many people watch/perform in DCI to have an escape from the world today. Throwing huge reminders like that into a show to push some stupid agenda is so fucking slimy. We just want to enjoy drum corps for what it is.
@@c4sum832 This probably isn't the era to feature a ancient female character who agrees to be slain, if you know what I mean. This is the era of empowerment and self-actualization. Besides, writers know that your lead character can't be a feckless victim to whom things happen. Your lead character must have a clear objective and either succeed or fail at achieving it. This show is an example of a complete lack of understanding of how story works, regardless of era.
@@jesuspectre9883 I agree the story here didn't exactly pan out. All I'm saying is that the story most likely doesn't take place in a world like today. Personally I think that you can decipher at least a message behind the show, depending on what you see it as. In the end I don't think the writers were trying to write something about empowerment, rather finding the strength to start again after all has been lost. As I see it, the beginning shows her losing everything (in this case her life on earth). She goes through grief, and cannot find the strength to start again. Then, the gurus find her and decide to help her to find hope. They bring her the light (strength, hope, whatever it may be) and she realized she can start anew. Then the happy music plays and that's the end of the show. It's a bit of a stretch but I think that's what the writers are intending... I definitely agree that many people wouldn't like the show due to it's female protagonist being slain, but I just think that there had to be another message behind the show.
10:11 seriously one of the best fanfares I’ve ever heard in DCI!
When I start DCI, I strive to be in the Mandarins
Audition with us
Y'all they had leather uniforms, that's insane especially with how hot it gets in regular ones
It was actually a synthetic spandex-like material. Actually quite a bit more breathable than the previous year’s uniforms!
10:11 is probably one of the best moments of the season. Enjoy SCV all you want but there’s no denying that Mandies brought on the heat this year. Bravo.
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I somehow forgot the login password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Zahir Parker Instablaster =)
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Loved this book. Great effect and the uniforms were spot on for this tone.
Recently auditioned for Genesis back in January and got cut and basically realized while I was at the camp it seemed like it just wasn't for me and its really a big commitment, staff wanted me to come back and audition again in November but I don't think I'm going to go back cause I'm trying to focus on school, but ever I got back from the audition I've just been pretty much stopped watching a lot of DCI stuff and I just don't know why, I just don't want this audition to take away my love for drum corps
I am very glad that they even made the top 10 this year, but, to give this show only 10th place was so very wrong. They deserved a better outcome then that. There are many rumors going around in DCI about the judges always playing favorites. If that is the case, then it's time to hire different, and better judges. There are quite a few Corps that deserve better scores than they keep getting.
It's not just DCI btw, they do the same thing in BOA. the judges have always played favorites, and each competition has their own biased judges.
Then someone needs to take a stand, and speak up for all the Corps that are always being scored unfairly. I have some of my own opinions on Corps that made better scores , and their show to me was quite boring, to say the least, but only made better scores, just because of who they were.
Delores - personally, I feel DCI has become similar to figure skating and their judging system. Until you have been around for a period of time (say, 15-20 years in each grouping section among the 23 world class corps, such as 1-6, 7-9, 10-12), don't count on moving up or down too much. A couple of years ago, the big fear was that Blue Devils would magically jump over Bluecoats for the 2016 title (fortunately, it did not happen). Same year, The Academy had one of the best performances of the season with their Drum Corpse Bride, and should have finished top 8, but had to settle for 11th. There are those out there that will justify the DCI judging system as being unbiased, but personally, I have to scratch my head and wonder what constitutes good music, uniforms (or "costumes") and choreography. I will admit that the 2017 judging, for the most part, was spot on (Blue Devils edging out Santa Clara Vanguard by 0.9th of a point, which is about where I figured the final placings would be, with all other corps lining up about where I expected them). I don't have any one particular favorite (since my old corps folded back in 1984), and am more interested in quality competition than hard core support of any one Corps. One of my personal favorites of 2017 was The Colts and their rendition of Judy Collins "Both Sides Now". The whole show connected with me more than any other that year.
Same in dca, all the judges are buccaneer vets, that’s why they always win in dca
MountainaForcefield _ not true at all 😂
5:33 That's a sweet chord.
This is like Carolina crown 2018 but on steroids
I would have gone just to see the Kit drummer, from Kyoto Tachibana SHS!!!
8:40 gives me big chills
Gucci Gang Tae SAME YOOO chicken skin
Only just realized that someone trips on those capes, I always thought they'd be inconvenient 5:11
Omg were the rifles at the end on the stage GLOWING?!?!?
Yes
Very nice Mario and Brandi. Nice to see your success. I miss the sport and teaching. It gave me the chills to see this. Corps sounds great and the guard looks fantastic.
Seriously makes me emotional! Go Mandarins!!! I’m so proud of y’all!
Does anyone know the meaning behind the show? I know it’s about life after death but every movement is so dynamic and different I’d love to get more insight
It's based on Stravinsky's ballet "Rite Of Spring".
Favorite show of 2018.
For the snare break, was the Pitt playing the way I am by Eminem ?🤔
Wow that’s crazy I can actually hear it.
Nut
The audience is desperate to be swept off their feet with this vibrant staging. The audience is desperate to be swept away by the story and to cheer and scream. But here, they are utterly confused. The girl dances herself to death. Did she agree to this? And then what... they take her white dress off and eulogize her and cart her off, then what? Where is she? She disappears. Where does she go? And why? Then the guys on stilts come out and everyone who is dressed completely in black plays True Colors by Cindy Lauper. What happened to the girl? Is it the same girl who discovers the lighted box at the end? How do we know it's the same girl? What's different at the end than the beginning, other than the upbeat music? At the end, where is the girl? Why is she upbeat now with a light box? What happened to make her change? At the very end, she's nowhere to be found,. This lack of clarity pushes the audience away.
There's a story problem here. In Rite of Spring the girl is sacrificed by dancing to death so that Spring can come. Without her sacrifice, no Spring. We get it. But it's not clear in this production whether or not she agreed to be sacrificed, or if she is being sacrificed against her will. It's a mystery here. After all, it's kind of a harsh, misogynistic, medieval thing to sacrifice a girl to the gods so that Spring can come. That's such a male-dominated myth. It's so disempowering. What self respecting girl wants to sacrifice herself? None. Personally, I'd like to see her come back and slice the heads off of all the dominant males at the ceremony. I'd like her to torture them as punishment for making her sacrifice herself. Here's how the script should go:
1) Bring the fucking stage down center so we can see it, for fuck's sake . Girl is forced to dance herself death against her will. Guard members as ceremonial revelers around the circle are "whipping" her with long ribbons, forcing her to dance. She tries to escape the stage! The vicious male revelers shove her back on the stage and demand that she dance! Dance! Dance! They whip her some more as she dances and falls to her knees. She eventually collapses and dies. The male revelers viciously cheer and stomp on her!
2) But wait! The afterlife gurus on stilts come to save her, but too late, they mourn her lifeless body. They push away all the vicious revelers by using magical arm motions. The afterlife gurus on stilts mourn her body and bring her body down to the center of the stage with the help of their minions. They cover her with a tarp that allows her just enough room to secretly change costume underneath. She stays under mourning cloth. Will she ever emerge?
3) During true colors, with the help of the afterlife gurus on stilts, she comes alive, out from under the tarp, and she's reborn in full color. The afterlife gurus on stilts hand her the light box. She is whole again.
4) Final movement, the entire fucking ensemble flips their capes around to vibrant colors on the other side. They are transformed. The girl hugs the afterlife gurus on stilts and waves goodbye to them, and celebrates her post-mortal transformation. The male revelers who whipped her at the beginning suddenly burst into flames, with kabuki-like fabric flames coming out the sides of their costumes, unfurled and pulsated by kokens. They collapse. She celebrates. Only in dying and rebirth did she recognize her true power to say no to the male dominated ritual. She triumphs, and the evil male revelers are "sacrificed"-- she sacrifices them so that Summer may emerge. She controls the Rite of Summer now. END
I know that you did not just call a fucking DRUM CORP SHOW misogynistic. I know I’m over a year late but still, you’re looking to fucking deep into it. Just enjoy it for what it is
@@chorgnart Absolutely fucking not. This is a legitimate, college level activity and a sophisticated art form. They're playing strains of Stravinsky, for fuck's sake. Make the story make sense. Make it clear to the audience. In the professional world, vagaries are not tolerated. Especially if you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on an annual production budget. Abstract elements are fine, but the understructure of the story or pattern must be clear to the performers and to the audience. Their 2019 production was so much clearer, so much more defined.
I get that there's plot holes, I agree with that. But this show is most likely taking place in one of those older times, where people saw human sacrifice somewhat acceptable - trying to equate it to today's morals won't work, because it's not based on today's morals. It's entirely possible that the dancing girl accepted her fate, for the better of her community. In fact, how do you know she was forced to do the sacrifice? She just as well might have volunteered to be slain. On top of that, you cant force someone to dance - killing their families would not bring the start of spring, and killing her without her would not kick-start spring by itself.
More importantly, most people aren't here for the story of a show. Sure, it's definitely part of the show, but it's not the whole reason people watch drum corps. They're watching for the brass, drum line, pit, and guard. They want to listen to music, with side of visual arts - and the scorecards reflect that. There's only one category geared around show design, out of 5 categories. So yes, while people may have lost track of the story, in the end it doesn't matter all that much because the vast majority of people don't care. They're here for DRUM CORPS, if they wanted a story they could have read a book or watched a movie.
A lot of the show is left up to the viewer to decipher - I don't get HOW you made the show out to be against women, but whatever. I made it out to be about a girl accepting her death and awaiting her new life in the afterlife/next world/whatever. If you don't watch DCI that often, nowadays some shows are written ambiguous purposely to let the audience fill in the details, to make it "more meaningful" or something - I'm not the biggest fan when writers do that, but I still get my drum corps so I'm not complaining.
The issue I take up with your comment is your VILE idea of a drum corps show. You call the original show misogynistic, but it's not really. They're sacrificing a girl, but not because they're anti-women or something. Plus, there are not only men sacrificing the dancer either! It's a whole society (of men AND women) trying to bring the start of spring to survive. Essentially, I'm trying to say the show was NOT centered on MEN killing a GIRL - It was centered on an carrying out a NECESSARY EVIL to survive. In contrast, your show idea MAKES THE SHOW MISOGYNISTIC. It was not centered around female empowerment before, but your show does.
Additionally, you throw unnecessary violence into the show. Why would the men be whipping the girl? She had to dance to death, not be beaten to death. That would ruin the whole ritual, and "prevent spring from arriving" (remember, they wholly believed they needed to kill a virgin to start spring). In the original show, the corps was WATCHING her dance, not actively torturing her. And in your story, why the stomping? There's absolutely no reason to do that - they were sacrificing this girl for their god or deity or whoever. By stomping on her corpse, they would be insulting their religion/deity. All of that violence is the GIANT hole where your show crumbles, if you're so insistent on a good story. Your whole show revolves on a flawed beginning - the rest of the actions that occur have no reason to happen (Except the burning - perhaps if the men were killed by their deity for disrespect? But then the whole show would need a different story).
Nobody wants to watch a misogynistic show - in fact, many would call it an invasion of SJW's into DCI, such as the Kathleen Kennedy stuff in Star Wars. The 2018 Mandarins did not perform a gross show as you say. But not only did you accuse them of doing so, but you made a "better show" where the ENTIRE SHOW was based on misogynistic values. Nobody wants to watch a production like that. It would be a disgusting reminder of many current issues, and many people watch/perform in DCI to have an escape from the world today. Throwing huge reminders like that into a show to push some stupid agenda is so fucking slimy. We just want to enjoy drum corps for what it is.
@@c4sum832 This probably isn't the era to feature a ancient female character who agrees to be slain, if you know what I mean. This is the era of empowerment and self-actualization. Besides, writers know that your lead character can't be a feckless victim to whom things happen. Your lead character must have a clear objective and either succeed or fail at achieving it. This show is an example of a complete lack of understanding of how story works, regardless of era.
@@jesuspectre9883 I agree the story here didn't exactly pan out. All I'm saying is that the story most likely doesn't take place in a world like today.
Personally I think that you can decipher at least a message behind the show, depending on what you see it as. In the end I don't think the writers were trying to write something about empowerment, rather finding the strength to start again after all has been lost. As I see it, the beginning shows her losing everything (in this case her life on earth). She goes through grief, and cannot find the strength to start again. Then, the gurus find her and decide to help her to find hope. They bring her the light (strength, hope, whatever it may be) and she realized she can start anew. Then the happy music plays and that's the end of the show.
It's a bit of a stretch but I think that's what the writers are intending... I definitely agree that many people wouldn't like the show due to it's female protagonist being slain, but I just think that there had to be another message behind the show.
Only cool part of this show was 10:11
bro did you miss the opening hit and the ballad?