There are also the Dwarves of Dongun Hold. After their home became a no-man's-land between warring magical nations, they abandoned the surface and retreated underground to an area mostly devoid of magic. But their last trade with the Kulenett had included a shipment of low-grade gunpowder from Tian Xia, and their alchemists were able to duplicate and improve the recipe. Over the centuries they invented firearms of all shapes and sizes, which allowed them to survive in places where magic was unreliable. Now thanks to the human Ancil Alkenstar and his followers, they've reestablished themselves on the surface, and are beginning to export their guns all over the Inner Sea region.
Dwarves are one of if not the most interesting race in fantasy as a whole. Though from the outset human looking, and having many similar characteristics, their cultural shift, and myth makes them incredibly rewarding to play in any setting. Have a lovely day everyone! Thanks for the vid.
I've always rather liked Droskar as a concept. He's a god that represents what happens when hard work and industriousness, the premier dwarven virtues, go too far; he's work for work's sake, craftsmanship without the artistry, labor without the satisfaction of a job well done, the crushing gears of industry callously grinding you down into dust with no greater purpose than to sustain itself indefinitely to the benefit of thieves and cheats who steal your work to pass off as their own or just screw you out of payment for it. For obvious reasons, this is pretty resonant with our own world.
Terry Pratchett's THUD! was my introduction to Discworld, and I've always liked his take on dwarf culture. They feel very alien in their mindset, the most orthodox of them considering the surface world to be sort of a bad dream, and why shouldn't a non-human culture be weird? But with Pathfinder being the kitchen sink campaign setting it's good there are options for more relatable dwarf cultures along side the bizarre ones. I've had an idea for a Dwarf Druid, either from a Skyhold or one of the deeper cities with a nearby tunnel to the top of a mountain, who wants more than anything to be able to fly. He shirks his duties to his clan to go climbing, trying to reach the sky, and while he was there he was able to commune with the wind, attained druid powers, and got adopted by an elderly widowed eagle. I think the conflict between his heritage and his inexplicable desire would be fun to play out.
That's a great character concept. I once played a dwarf sorceress named Sif who had Overland Flight up more or less perpetually. Flying dwarves are good fun.
My most favorite pathfinder character I've played thus far was a dwarven wizard who had more a mind for numbers and record keeping than his family's actual trade. He ended up mentoring with a scrollmaster at some point, which is what led him down his path of wizardry as a scrollmaster (and eventually eldritch knight) himself, but was left with a fear of fire after the caravan they were part of was attacked and he was trapped in a burning wagon. As part of a player party, he was far more focused on support spells and area control than the typical wizard, and was the go-to for making magical items.
Wow! Your videos are extremely well done! What a great resource. I have one suggestion, however. You may want to consider using a device that I believe is called a popper stopper in conjunction with your microphone. It takes some of the hardness out of the letter p sound when you are speaking into the microphone. Please keep making videos. You are really good at it!
Reallllly like the "history of the lore" in the beginning.... Pointing out the consistent mutability of elves and consistent consistency of dwarves was particularly interesting imo! Maybe has something to do with theyre a little more rooted in the mythology of germanics/norse? Whereas elves themselves mutated from the concept fairies in myth... Super interesting!
Warhammer Dwarves, the Dawi, are an interesting style of Khuzdul. The outcasts, (Doomseekers/Dwarf Slayers), who profession progression was always fun.
Eventually I'll get to doing a Regional Deepdive series on Druma and the 5-Kings Mountains, or they may be separate (I haven't decided yet), and yes, by the time I get around to that Lost Omens: Highhelm will be out. Don't hold your breath though, there's a lot of content coming between now and then at this point. 😅
Yes they are from a French comic book company called Soleil - a series called Les Nains or the dwarves. I don't know if these have been translated into English unfortunately.
OI I think Slayers, Grudges, having an actually Air Force and inventing firearms makes Warhammer fantasy dwarfs pretty dang unique Plus you forgot the other side of the dwarfs: the Chaos Dwarfs
I’m creating a Dwarven Ranger Bounty Hunter now, and trying to decide which clan & hold he’s from. I’m leaning towards Dongun near Alkenstar, w lineage perhaps to HighHelm. But still looking for more lore on each of the holds & citadels. Any suggestions??
Okay let' see... I discuss Janderhoff in my Deep Dive on Varisia. Kraggodan and the Glimmerhold in my Deep Dive on Nirmathas and Molthune. I haven't done a deep dive on the 5 Kings Mountains yet (so just this dwarf video for holds there). I do have a look at the Taralu as well in my Southern Mwangi video. Cloudspire is covered in my upcoming video about the Western Mwangi expanse and Dongun Hold will be covered when I talk about Alkenstar, both of which haven't been released yet. That said, a High Helm dwarf who emigrated to Dongun Hold makes a lot of sense to me so I think your starting point is really strong. For me, this choice is always about what game your GM is running. If its set in Garund, Dongun Hold or Cloudspire gives you a lot more connective tissue with the region. If its set in Varisia, Janderhoff makes you tightly connected to Korvosa and Kaer Maga. If its set in the Mammoth Lands, maybe you're a dwarf who traces his lineage back to Jormurdun and seeks to reclaim that sky citadel from the demons who took it.
Dwarves are the best people, regardless of the setting. The Pathfinder variant is very interesting, particularly the journey to the surface prophecy and the Orc connection. I actually prefer the stereotypical Arda/Forgotten Realms dwarf - no magic, melee toughness and a heavy dose of anti-Elf bias. The Tar-Taargadth storyline and the colonisation of underdevolepd humans in Druma is particularly satisfying - another Pathfinder plus.
There are some less typical dwarf types in Pathfinder too which are kind of cool. The Taralu, the Mbeke, the Donguni especially. I discuss each of these in a little more detail in my Mwangi videos and my Alkenstar video.
I really wish I knew where I found that ulra-high-res map, but I've not been able to find it in a few years, so whomever initially posted it must have taken it down. I did upload a version of it (slightly lower res because of imgur limits). The elf-gates are marked on this version of the map: imgur.com/gallery/gIguRr4
@@TheMythkeeper As a keen lover of all things dwarf, I have watched this video so many times. It is one of the first of your vids that drew me into your loretelling to which I am ever so grateful to have found it. Thank you for your reply! That art style leapt out at me and I finally had to ask.
They are actually a seperate subgroup that for some terrible reason I _totally_ overlooked when making this video. I do have an upcoming Alkenstar & Dongun Hold video coming out soon that will cover the Donguni in more detail.
You may want to pronounce Talrik as Taal rick not tal rick. At least if your dwarves have norse inspiration. Talrik with a short a sound means dinnerplate in swedish. Talrik with a long a means numerous or a great amount of something.
This is one of things (like how I always say Mj-oh-lnir instead of Mj-uh-lnir for the hammer) that I'm vaguely aware of but is almost impossible for me to get right consistently. The innate bias in my anglo-pronunciation steers my awry. But I take on your feedback, thank you!
Not sure I agree that all dwarves are the same. Warhammer dwarves use gunpowder and keep grudges, warcraft dwarves are even mre advanced and are also more archeologists than smiths.
You are correct, there are subtle differences between dwarf cultures in these various fantasy realms - I just meant they are not as mutable as elves seem to be - which differ more radically from one setting and the next.
There are also the Dwarves of Dongun Hold. After their home became a no-man's-land between warring magical nations, they abandoned the surface and retreated underground to an area mostly devoid of magic. But their last trade with the Kulenett had included a shipment of low-grade gunpowder from Tian Xia, and their alchemists were able to duplicate and improve the recipe. Over the centuries they invented firearms of all shapes and sizes, which allowed them to survive in places where magic was unreliable. Now thanks to the human Ancil Alkenstar and his followers, they've reestablished themselves on the surface, and are beginning to export their guns all over the Inner Sea region.
Dwarves are one of if not the most interesting race in fantasy as a whole. Though from the outset human looking, and having many similar characteristics, their cultural shift, and myth makes them incredibly rewarding to play in any setting. Have a lovely day everyone! Thanks for the vid.
“Dwarfs are dwarfs, manling. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be dwarfs.” - Gotrek Gurnisson, probably
Likely before drawing a bead of blood from his axing by thumbing the blade.
I've always rather liked Droskar as a concept. He's a god that represents what happens when hard work and industriousness, the premier dwarven virtues, go too far; he's work for work's sake, craftsmanship without the artistry, labor without the satisfaction of a job well done, the crushing gears of industry callously grinding you down into dust with no greater purpose than to sustain itself indefinitely to the benefit of thieves and cheats who steal your work to pass off as their own or just screw you out of payment for it. For obvious reasons, this is pretty resonant with our own world.
The slayer cult is a great addition to dwarves in Warhammer
Yeah they're the best ;-)
That would be Doomseekers.
Terry Pratchett's THUD! was my introduction to Discworld, and I've always liked his take on dwarf culture. They feel very alien in their mindset, the most orthodox of them considering the surface world to be sort of a bad dream, and why shouldn't a non-human culture be weird? But with Pathfinder being the kitchen sink campaign setting it's good there are options for more relatable dwarf cultures along side the bizarre ones.
I've had an idea for a Dwarf Druid, either from a Skyhold or one of the deeper cities with a nearby tunnel to the top of a mountain, who wants more than anything to be able to fly. He shirks his duties to his clan to go climbing, trying to reach the sky, and while he was there he was able to commune with the wind, attained druid powers, and got adopted by an elderly widowed eagle. I think the conflict between his heritage and his inexplicable desire would be fun to play out.
That's a great character concept. I once played a dwarf sorceress named Sif who had Overland Flight up more or less perpetually. Flying dwarves are good fun.
My most favorite pathfinder character I've played thus far was a dwarven wizard who had more a mind for numbers and record keeping than his family's actual trade. He ended up mentoring with a scrollmaster at some point, which is what led him down his path of wizardry as a scrollmaster (and eventually eldritch knight) himself, but was left with a fear of fire after the caravan they were part of was attacked and he was trapped in a burning wagon. As part of a player party, he was far more focused on support spells and area control than the typical wizard, and was the go-to for making magical items.
Sounds like an awesome character
Never been a fan of Dwarves in general but I enjoyed the content.
They're an acquired taste 😅 but once you've played one dwarf you'll never be the same again!
What cracks me up is that, somehow, the entire world decided that dwarves all have Scottish accents and it totally works.
I have never GMed a game and not given a dwarf a scottish accent. Its a must.
@@TheMythkeeper Even Peter Jackson's The Hobbit jumped on that with Dane Ironfoot, "You're all mad bastards! I like it!"
The dwarven people have always been my favorite race. This by far the best description of them that i have seen in quite awhile. Subscribed!
a great novel about dwafs: Pathfinder Tales: Forge of Ashes
(one of my favorits)
Oh I love that, the idea they're so stubborn we can't picture them any other way.
Dwarves and Orcs are my two favorite races, which is ironic in Pathfinder since they have a history of conflict with each other
Great content. You pack a lot of information into 20 minutes. Keep the videos coming.
Great content bro, I wish the algorithm had showed me your videos months ago
I'm currently playing Dwarf Barbarian with the Armored Hulk archetype. I love him so far. He's a particularly volatile type of tank.
Wow! Your videos are extremely well done! What a great resource. I have one suggestion, however. You may want to consider using a device that I believe is called a popper stopper in conjunction with your microphone. It takes some of the hardness out of the letter p sound when you are speaking into the microphone. Please keep making videos. You are really good at it!
Thank you so much, I'm still really new at this. I will definitely do this going forward. 🙂
I’ve been waiting for this one after half orcs dwarves are my favorite race. Orcs and half orcs are my favorite
You got it, I'm cooking up an orc video now but be patient, I have a few more ancestries to get through.
damn!, the introduction in this video is more canon than TROP
I like this. Absolutely loved your elf video
MrRhexx made a series on the dwarves in the Forgotten Realms setting, and it's neat how similar and different the lore is between the settings.
Just a note; elves of Faerun were not shorter than humans (at least before 5E). They were sometimes even taller.
Reallllly like the "history of the lore" in the beginning.... Pointing out the consistent mutability of elves and consistent consistency of dwarves was particularly interesting imo! Maybe has something to do with theyre a little more rooted in the mythology of germanics/norse? Whereas elves themselves mutated from the concept fairies in myth... Super interesting!
Thanks! I really appreciate comments like this
I loved it I really loved it you did such a good job thank you
Warhammer Dwarves, the Dawi, are an interesting style of Khuzdul.
The outcasts, (Doomseekers/Dwarf Slayers), who profession progression was always fun.
Fantastic video as always, thank you.
And thank you for watching and commenting!
Love your videos Mythkeeper!
Thanks for the lesson. Great work.
Great video. Made me want to play a Dwarf someday
Glad it sparked some inspiration!
Once again. Great stuff.
Why am I not surprised the dwarves actually respect Cayden.
Makes sense. He's a good dude, who likes to drink. Pretty close to the dwarven essential ethos.
Phenomenal job!!!
Are you planning to do a deeper dive into dwarvendom once Lost Omens: Highhelm comes out?
Eventually I'll get to doing a Regional Deepdive series on Druma and the 5-Kings Mountains, or they may be separate (I haven't decided yet), and yes, by the time I get around to that Lost Omens: Highhelm will be out. Don't hold your breath though, there's a lot of content coming between now and then at this point. 😅
The dwarves of the iron kingdoms are a little different, but still follow a good number of the basics. But i really like their lore.
Great video. I'm a long time fan of dwarves. You use several images that look like comics. Do you know which comics those are?
Yes they are from a French comic book company called Soleil - a series called Les Nains or the dwarves. I don't know if these have been translated into English unfortunately.
OI I think Slayers, Grudges, having an actually Air Force and inventing firearms makes Warhammer fantasy dwarfs pretty dang unique
Plus you forgot the other side of the dwarfs: the Chaos Dwarfs
I agree Warhammer dwarfs are unique... but also, still very much dwarves!
I’m creating a Dwarven Ranger Bounty Hunter now, and trying to decide which clan & hold he’s from. I’m leaning towards Dongun near Alkenstar, w lineage perhaps to HighHelm. But still looking for more lore on each of the holds & citadels. Any suggestions??
Okay let' see... I discuss Janderhoff in my Deep Dive on Varisia. Kraggodan and the Glimmerhold in my Deep Dive on Nirmathas and Molthune. I haven't done a deep dive on the 5 Kings Mountains yet (so just this dwarf video for holds there). I do have a look at the Taralu as well in my Southern Mwangi video. Cloudspire is covered in my upcoming video about the Western Mwangi expanse and Dongun Hold will be covered when I talk about Alkenstar, both of which haven't been released yet.
That said, a High Helm dwarf who emigrated to Dongun Hold makes a lot of sense to me so I think your starting point is really strong. For me, this choice is always about what game your GM is running. If its set in Garund, Dongun Hold or Cloudspire gives you a lot more connective tissue with the region. If its set in Varisia, Janderhoff makes you tightly connected to Korvosa and Kaer Maga. If its set in the Mammoth Lands, maybe you're a dwarf who traces his lineage back to Jormurdun and seeks to reclaim that sky citadel from the demons who took it.
@@TheMythkeeper Thanks for the info! I’ll look for those Dwarves’ holds info in all those videos!
Dwarves are the best people, regardless of the setting. The Pathfinder variant is very interesting, particularly the journey to the surface prophecy and the Orc connection. I actually prefer the stereotypical Arda/Forgotten Realms dwarf - no magic, melee toughness and a heavy dose of anti-Elf bias. The Tar-Taargadth storyline and the colonisation of underdevolepd humans in Druma is particularly satisfying - another Pathfinder plus.
There are some less typical dwarf types in Pathfinder too which are kind of cool. The Taralu, the Mbeke, the Donguni especially. I discuss each of these in a little more detail in my Mwangi videos and my Alkenstar video.
I love this map you use. Is it available somewhere. I'd like to use it too
I really wish I knew where I found that ulra-high-res map, but I've not been able to find it in a few years, so whomever initially posted it must have taken it down. I did upload a version of it (slightly lower res because of imgur limits). The elf-gates are marked on this version of the map: imgur.com/gallery/gIguRr4
Any luck finding the original source or uploading the hi-res version?
Rock and stone
Rock and stone brother!
👏👏👏👏
Anyone know the source for the art of the dwarves @ 7:27 ? (Great vid btw!)
You'll have to search around for it, but it comes from the cover art to French comic book called "Les Nains" or "the Dwarves".
@@TheMythkeeper As a keen lover of all things dwarf, I have watched this video so many times. It is one of the first of your vids that drew me into your loretelling to which I am ever so grateful to have found it. Thank you for your reply! That art style leapt out at me and I finally had to ask.
So are Dongun dwarves related to the Pahmet dwarves or Taralu dwarves?
They are actually a seperate subgroup that for some terrible reason I _totally_ overlooked when making this video. I do have an upcoming Alkenstar & Dongun Hold video coming out soon that will cover the Donguni in more detail.
9:56 are those... helicopters?
With runes of stealth!
You may want to pronounce Talrik as Taal rick not tal rick. At least if your dwarves have norse inspiration. Talrik with a short a sound means dinnerplate in swedish. Talrik with a long a means numerous or a great amount of something.
This is one of things (like how I always say Mj-oh-lnir instead of Mj-uh-lnir for the hammer) that I'm vaguely aware of but is almost impossible for me to get right consistently. The innate bias in my anglo-pronunciation steers my awry. But I take on your feedback, thank you!
I wonder how all those would be like in starfinder wich is pathfinder but in space
Once I get through all the core PF content I do plan on doing a little Starfinder content as well.
I have the dwarf morality it seems
Wait Drsugar ride spiders? That's cool
Not sure I agree that all dwarves are the same. Warhammer dwarves use gunpowder and keep grudges, warcraft dwarves are even mre advanced and are also more archeologists than smiths.
You are correct, there are subtle differences between dwarf cultures in these various fantasy realms - I just meant they are not as mutable as elves seem to be - which differ more radically from one setting and the next.
@@TheMythkeeper What are your thoughts on the dragon age Dwarves?
Loved the info but it's a shame you don't credit the artists
I know. Too many videos, not enough time per week.
TIL that I’m a dwarf
Warhammer dwarfs have a book.
Lumping the noble dwarfs in with other fantasy dwarves? THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!