Matty Cranmer Rides Both Of These Bikes And The Results Will SHOCK You
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- We decided to compare the performance between these two bikes that have a HUGE difference in pricing and the results shocked us! Matty Cranmer did 5 different tricks on each of these bikes and to our surprise he rode the much cheaper bike better than his own custom bike! This just goes to prove that the technology and quality of modern day BMX bikes has come a long way!
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Just because it’s what he wanted doesn’t mean it’s what best suits his style
As someone who was stuck riding a 21” but needed a 20.75 it may feel better in the air and ramps but on street it’s a world better riding a smaller frame if you aren’t 6’ or above
After watching this video, I think I need a bigger frame, I'm about 5'5 and I ride a 20.5 top tube but I feel so cramped for some reason.
I've always felt like I needed a bigger frame but every website says 20.5 is what I need so I wasn't too sure, but after seeing matt do better on a bigger frame despite it not being his frame of choice, to me confirms I need a bigger frame.
Couldn’t have said it better brother😊
@@emanthegman9511go for a 20.75 I have some homies who are closer to that height and that’s what they ride and like I wish I could recommend it but I’m 6’5 so it’s a 21” plus for me😂😂
@@emanthegman9511 the more you know right ?? watching this video and reading the comments I'm realizing why my 5'10" ass cant get the bars around on my 20.25" top tube bmx lol good excuse for a new frame I guess !!! big thanks to scotty and matty for this video and info haha
Chromoly frame,fork, and handlebar plus double-walled rims with sealed bearings in the hubs and 2 piece chromoly cranks for this price. Mongoose is doing it proper!
This is all standard on every bmx bike. Some frames are high tensile steel but just about anything you buy will be chromoly.
@@neonnerd1364 you can get frames with the front triangle Chromoly and the back end hi tensile steel a friend had one and bent the backend from ice pick stalls allways look at the specs of the frame before buy it
@neonnerd1364 not for this price nerd. (Jk only cause ur name u picked) A buddy paid 600 for a WTP that only had top tube and down tube 4130. The rest hi-ten and it snapped. Subrosa charges over 600, I think 675 for this type of complete. Cult charges almost 600 and single wall in the front as well. Kink and Sunday are the only ones that do bikes this cheap but they are single wall rims in front with non sealed bearings. My point being, mongoose is doing it properly for the price. You can't beat it
@@scottbradford4130 i’ve been riding Bmx since 1985. I used to work in the BMX Shop I’m 44 still riding Bmx now I’ve seen it evolve over the years and I’m not a nerd.
@pauljames4510 lol wasn't talking to you dude. Notice the username in front of the reply
It'd be cool to see Matty ride the L100 more to see how it holds up to aggressive riding over time. Maybe trim the bars to make it more homey.
This would be excellent to see
Nah leave as is
Good point. Stress test that thing
Yes, stress it without intentionally destroying it.
Great video, guys. I bought my latest bike complete but ended up changing the things I wasn’t comfortable with. It’s easy to rack up a lot of money doing that. It’s nice to see an “out of the box” bike perform this well
I'd be interested to see what would happen if Matty tried tricks with the complete first. I wonder if Matty did another try on his custom if it would have been cleaner than his previous try. Regardless a great video and I am impressed with the complete!
i believe so he already landed the trick before switching bikes but regardless dude has skill and theyre great bikes
that would only be fair if he got a week or so to get used to that complete
I did the same change on my Kink Whip XL, changed the tires for Eclat Mirages and it made a world of difference
21” TT and the uncut Bars, give you a more stable roomier and more comfortable feeling bike.
It makes bar spins a little harder but everything else feel smoother.
Also the big spongy tires help dampen the impact through the bars, however maybe just jump up to like a 2.2 tire and bigger frame. Really think Matt might look even more comfortable and smooth with that setup.
The pop on that flair on the L100 was insane, I feel like he could flair smaller quarters on that bike
I think the frame dimensions might have been better for him 🤔 maybe that frame suits him better. See if the mongoose team can hook him up with some options. Or try putting his bits on that frame to see if it feels like home. I'm interested to see if this gets followed up on and it'd be cool to see a video about the mongoose team making stuff 😀 proper legends
Maybe the longer top tube is better for Matty? looks well proportioned on him
Every bmx should add 2" to top tube, subtract 2" from stem, and shorten rear end 2". Thank me after you start the first profitable bmx company in the 21st century.
Honestly I think I need a bigger frame too, I've always felt cramped on my current frame
i’m glad you guys made this video i’ve always wanted to see a complete bmx vs a custom bmx
No surprise Matty's a beast, but it's good to see "they" are offering good quality bike for reasonable prices for entry level kids or adults that just want to go easy and try to relive the past.
Great video!! I think the big difference for him is that the top tube is a little longer. It changes the body position, as well as creating a different throw( leverage)
Really interesting video, BMX completes have come on so much now. My first three completes was Haro in the early 2000’s but it just shows how far and affordable manufacturing a bike has become yet also scary that a “complete” is just as good and as strong as a custom built BMX. As for Matty, I think you need to up to a 21” TT, the back ends are so short now it makes up for the rest of the geometry! The bars on the complete remind me of the Fly Bikes bars but Thinner tyres and that thing would be dialed!
I love my L100! Matty switching to Mongoose is what sold me on getting it, besides the price.
My first bike as an adult, after 20 years off of bikes was an L100. I updated the stem, but otherwise, it's been a dream. I'm really a mountain bike guy, but make sure to get on the 'goose at least a couple times a month.
The difference always being the parts package that comes on stock bikes. Usually cheaper hubs, wheels, unsealed bearings, partial Chromoly tubing instead of full in the frame, etc. You can for sure get a great stock bike nowadays especially depending on how much you want to dish out as alot you premium parts at added cost of course.
Dope video Scott and Matt
I reckon matty is liking the feeling of the little bit more headtube angle. It's a great feeling for flowy riders.
somehow i missed this video. i have the mongoose L100. and i am blown away with it. i have rode it in many of my videos this last spring and summer. it rules.
This is one crazy video. Awesome experiment!
I’d like to see y’all do a review of a 22” bmx bike
Get y’all’s thoughts and input on it
nice vid guys! is matty gonna be doing another racing vid soon?
I am a MTB’er and I have wanted to get into BMX a little, been thinking about the l100 but have been hesitant, at least now i know that when i do decide to pull the trigger i can be comfortable in knowing that it will suit me for my entry skill level.
Buy a used ride off Vital, don't support these Walmart sellouts
@AndyDandy123 do you actually know anything about bmx?
looks like matty needs a longer tt
Could be the 21" top tube? Matty is an AWESOME RIDER!! Great video!
It seems all the styley riders run longer top tubes, bigger bars too. Matt definitely looked way steezier on the 21". I know once I started riding a longer front end, they kept getting longer, each new frame I got. Would of liked to see Matt crank a turndown or lookback over that hip on the L100.
Great video!!
He should be on that Scotty Cranmer titanium finish bro. don't forget the Cory B in all black that's nice
I would like to see Matty do a track stand challenge on different bikes, then do the same challenge/bikes challenge for others
Great video Scotty and Matty.. took my kids to a wheels skate park.. ANY SCHOOL/ CLASSES THAT YOU TEACH FOR KIDS to learn BmX? Mention on next video
Man, I love you guys. The last time I whatch you was in 2015 i guess.
My just turned 3 year old asked. Hey what is that daddy doing with kids bike?😂
The weight in itself helps the rotation.. It's an even match to his tech riding.. sometimes lighter is not better..
Especially with big jumps, a heavier bike gives you more controlle and makes things automatic smoother, but lighter bikes may give you more opportunities for more dynamic tricks. At least that‘s how it feels to me
I'm 48 and 6'3 300lbs.... I love the stability of Mongoose. Always been a favorite of mine. Calm down people.... I'm loosing weight since riding again. LOL! Really like that Legion! Maybe in my future. Great video guys!
The L500 is a great bike for bigger riders and not much more than the L100 in cost.
@@modelcitizen394 I will look into it for sure.
Long tip tubes and short backends you spin so nicely. It’s smooth and steezy…
Matty should get a 21.25 top tube bike and get the smallest possible rear end.
This makes the back end twitchy for tech tricks but in the air it’s smooth.
I have run that style frame as long as I can remember, they are so much more fun to ride.
When you are over the back it’s twitchy and over the front it flows, so you can do all your tech stuff without issues but you don’t lose out on airs. Plus there is so much more room for tricks
At right about 3:50 how did he hop it like that
I know how to do it with a wheelie then push forward to bring up the back wheel but with flat pedals not clip how do you hop it straight up like that
Thanks for the info drop, brother. Great work putting this video together!
Last year I got a Sunday blueprint for my 10yo grandson. His 8yo brother is now moving from an 18" to a 20" & I was able to get him the L80 for $280 new in box. There's only a 1/4" difference in top tube length with L80 being 20-3/4.
I got myself a Crew cb275 to cruise around with them. It's murdered out. I'm thinking of adding purple alloy but unsure of brand for good quality without the pro-level price. I also want the color shades to match... as I remember shades can be way different between brands. Can you recommend some parts? Thanks, man!
(I've been out of the scene for a long, long time. My brother, Johnny V & I were there when they built Sundowns BMX in El Paso in early 80's. Great memories. He's passed away now & want to add purple for a nod to him. I raced road for team Wounded Warrior Project for 8yrs. Now I cruise easy trails on a C'dale F4 Caffeine 29er hardtail. I'm glad grandson's want to pursue riding. Hoping to build great memories for them too.)
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Doing the moves always on the Mongoose second means he has already practiced the move on his own custom so maybe he felt more confident/prepared. Great video!
i’ve been looking for bmx pad could you tell me what knee pad matty had on
Awesome vidddd!
BMX bikes came a long long way I still have my original bike when I was a kid a Haro Shredder and I tried to ride it a few days ago with my son and the whole time I was thinking, How did I ride this thing as a kid and do tricks on it. It's unbelievable how far BMX has come and the prices. If I remember I think my dad told me that my bike was around $800 - $900 at the time insane to what we have now.
I bought this bike after watching this video it's a great bike 👍🏻 thanks boys 🙏🏻
That flair 😂 thats doing Matts head in now - thinking he may Need to redesign a new Frame😂❤
Great video! Really like the bars that come one the l100. I've got a cult devotion complete atm, definitely best frame I've ever rode.
The green one looks like a Brant Moore complete bike..... LoL
the entirety of scotty's dialogue sounds like hes announcing it at xgames
Great vid.
Matty - spec the custom with the complete bike geometry. 21tt 13cs etc 🚴♂️great vid thx 🙏
I’ve been saying it for years that Matty has one of the prettiest flairs in the game. Which is why I always laugh when he and Scotty say he has trouble with them!
0:42 giving joe dirt firework scene vibes lol
Probably the slightly slacker headtube and longer chainstays were more stable for bigger tricks. Where as the shorter frame is good for street and tech tricks. The top tube length might have some effect but most likely the geo is the reason bigger tricks looked smoother
Does it make difference between left and right side sprocket
That’s why I run 21.3…
It’s so flowy and nice in the air. If you can get a short backend it’s good in manuals
The length and wider bars added control. It made it easier to center himself.
Back to back flare was so good.
i have the L500 (only major difference is that it has a Freeccoaster while the L100 has cassette) 2020 model and I am loving the bike. I am no where near as good as Matty but this solidifies my choice from 3years ago! (Not that I had doubts lol)
Love my L100. Especially swapping a few parts out. New pedals, 100psi tires, and a half-link made it feel like a way better bike.
@@lane2376 my l500 came with half link chains but it burst on me while riding over a hill… don’t even try to imagine the pain experienced… I have changed them out to Shadow Supreme and they have been legendary since
@@iStiflock I went with the regular Shadow interlock for now, but that mushy saggy feeling while pedaling is gone. Mine came with 65psi 2.25s that I swapped for S&M Speedball 2.4s and speed is no longer an issue. Felt like I had to dig to go fast enough for anything before
Scotty I'm so glad your doing so well .
Not been to the Channel in a Minute being Honest.. Sorry Scott n matt n everyone else But Geeeeezelaweeezepapacheese got to Commend these 2 Brothers - complete Gangstas of the BMX trueeeee class in their Professional demeanour but all heart for everything ❤. X2 Solutes for you both. GodBless to you, friends & family. And everyone on this crazy World we Call 🌎. 1Love ya Boy for Now n Always Devlin 🤙😎
Great idea for a comparisson. And its always better to find the own way. Some Pros know what they need and customize it for their needs. I don't like the 100 PSI tires. So I know that it will be more comfort with less PSI. But I am far away from the shown skills. I am to old to learn that, but I love riding my BMXs. 20" is killer on all Pumptracks. Have good times riding bikes. All the best ❤
Man as a rider in my younger days myself found the longer frame was always comfortable and easy to spin and move I had the Garry fisher special blue with clouds was the best thing I ever rode till got stolen
I bet the longer back end helped Matty on that flair. It was SOOOOOOOOOOOO SMOOTH.
I’d be interested to see what the complete bike weighs. Im imagining it’s around the same weight as the custom, but couldn’t find any info on their website. I have a Kink Search complete with the 21” top tube and I love it. Weighs in right at 25 lbs. Granted the frame and wheels are about the only things left stock on it
Complete was 2LBS heavier.
27.4 lbs he says so in the video
I think the reason is that if you do 3 tries on your own bike that is try 1-3 and then if you hop on a bike you're not used to it really is try 4 on a slightly different bike.
Those bars look cool.
I have Mongoose L500 is that good? Thicker tyres compared to that L100 and the weight is very light that i can lift it with one finger.
yo scotty, just bought my first bmx bike today!!! been watching your channel religiously for 7 years! since i was like 12!! crazy man. was cool at the bike shop today, the guy who sold me the bmx bike also really digs your YT.
Your impact on the BMX community is outstanding. Thanks for everything once again
i definity pick l100 cause you know im used of long chainstay and its durable it hold up to advanced tricks keep it up
Where is this skatepark?
Is it the bar length?
I would imagine that doing the trick on the custom right before doing it on the complete is some good practice and affects the results. Maybe next time try complete first. Still, it's incredible how good that complete is for the price, and only 2 pounds different! I wonder how different the long term reliability is
Got an L60 on sale for $141 on Amazon. It's pretty much the same as L100, but it's like 2 or 3 things differently. Like L100 has an all chromoly frame, forks, and bars and has double walled rims. The L60 only has chromoly bars and single walled rims. $141 is a steal for the L60.
Looks like matty need s a longer frame
I always thought Matty looks crowded on his normal bike not that it affects his ability! However, with that being said he looks more comfortable on the longer frame! I have done that plenty of times figured out what i thought i preferred actually didn’t work in my favor!
The kink in those front bars is what made all the difference 😂
That complete is actually a crazy good deal considering it’s all moly and had sealed bearings W for mongoose
I don't ride BMX but I do ride freestyle unicycle.
Scott in this video sounds like a AM radio talk show host
The big soft wheels helped immensely on the flair. Soft big squishy wheels allowing for a less intense pop resulting with less stiffness
Matty should def consider riding a 21"tt he looked really comfortable on that legion
I've been looking at buying a complete for dirt and trails. My park bike is full custom and I love it but I could flow trails better with a bit longer bike and most the completes out there are pretty awesome. Especially above the $450 price
For at least 6 years if not longer Marty’s been riding the same geometry. The C2 frame wizard frame and the la familia frame are really close in geometry. He broke out big on tall order probably from having a longer back end.
He should prototype a trails style frame geo and see what happens
Part of the bias in this experiment is always using the same bike for the first attempt. The second attempt will always come with more confidence than the first, on any bike.
Yes exactly. He needs to alternate which bike he tries the trick with first to have any chance of gaining any insight.
Matty needs the same geometry as the L1 for his sig frame!! lol
We gotta have a matty bike check I see u riding gsport and odyssey wheels new parts can u do a detailed one
It's hard to explain, but I sometimes switch back and forth between first person shooter games and almost every time I do I get better mechanically even tho games are all different.. but then it fades. Something about the switch makes you more aware or less prepared in a way.
I would love to see another musical bikes vid that was so cool
I think Matty is gonna start running a longer top tube now 😂
12:51 i noticed he gets better rotation probably because the tires weigh more ... it probably lands nicer so there's less fatigue on impact too... 2lbs well distributed might balance out his own weight and height too
I remember a few times where I could land a trick on a friend's bike but not on mine. Some set-ups just make certain tricks a bit easier to land. So if you are struggling on a trick next time try it on someone else's bike and see what changes!
It’s like this for almost everything now. Like I play guitar and before you really had to spend money to get a good guitar but now days you can get some really really god stuff for cheap
I have a complete different brand cro mo front triangle, in 3 years I've broken cranks and bars. 3 pegs and no brakes it's 26.4 lbs. I put on demolition momentum tires unaware of the weight and a 28 tooth sprocket. Every time i look at a replacement its heavier or doesn't ride the way i like
What about the reflectors?
i got my new mongoose L100 for 300 on amazon because it was last years color. but same rimes. tires. cranks. frame. mine listed for 500 but i paid 300 and it is the best trick bike i ever owned and i have owned many high end bikes.
Is my fit trl a good bike I am 6ft
my thoughts are the longer frame/ wheel base would allow the bike to swing better. More weight that gets thrown around. Heavier to get going but once in rotation it goes.
I wonder if it was the weight of the pegs that made it harder to do tricks compared to the L100? 🤔
Snagged my L100 used for $100... All it needed was a bit of maintenance and it's great.
How tall is he? Im 5'11" and i run my bmx bike big. I have 9" tall bars, top load stem, uncut forktube on a set of pitchforks, running the BTM at 21.25"-.5" cant remember but it gives me so much room, you are more at ease when your riding and not so cramped. Also my bars are 30" wide and my crank arms are 180mm with 30t-8t gearing
the legion would be a good trail bike! longer top tube and mellow headtube angle, longer back end. 👌🔥
the custombike had frame geometry chosen by another rider, your arms and legs are unlikely to be the same dimensions. Looking forward to you having your own frame designed for you and seeing how that helps your riding.
I have expensive bikes and also the L100, and the L100 is a legit bike, and can handle anything you can throw at it.