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I Created a Transfer Rumor and It Blew Up
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2023
- Sometimes I get an idea and just act on it and then it becomes way more than I thought it would, and a few days ago on deadline day I did just that. I started my stream by cooking up a transfer rumor that would end up shifting the betting odds by over 300% which is not something I thought was possible with so little effort.
I’m honestly a bit disturbed by how easy it was to shift the betting odds. I felt like those things should be more carefully considered but it doesn’t seem like there’s a real person in the whole process. It just goes to show, don’t trust rumor mill stuff without sources, especially when the deadline day rumor has a bunch of comments saying its fake.
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Z just altered the entire transfer day as a side quest
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I could absolutely see the Everton fans seeing the "news" and going "Wait yeah, that sounds like it would be a good move", and then someone on Everton's social media team saying "Wait, fans are saying this, and y'know, I agree", and then the guy in charge saying "Yeah, sounds good to me, let's see if we can make it happen"
When news broke out that they tried to sign Giroud on loan it was pretty clear that they were all out of ideas and just shooting out offers to see if any would stick. I can 100% see them going for Sarr based on random Twitter rumors lmao
Whenever false rumours come up on football manager I'll look at the player in question and they're quite good so sometimes I sign them
@@codygarland3246 same, i do it all the time because they are normally players that are actually good enough for the first team
Everton literally bid for him in the summer. Zealand did F all
@@wilks1878 Just killing the betting odds.
Someone at Everton management: GUYS! That FM wizkid who can save any save is telling us to get Sarr, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
Hmm... I find it hard to believe.... it wasn't a Llllllllllooooooaaaaannnnnnn!!!!!
@@temujanradari1105
It was a loan move with permanent transfer at the end of the season lol.
the drumbeats of a loan song started echoing 🤣🤣
Considering that other FM wizkid in Ligue 1 drew against PSG seems like listening to them is the right move
@@epmcgee hahaha
that dude is my favorite football story if the past 10 years (at least)
absolutely brilliant.
I worked as a sports journalist for nearly a decade for various major publications and was always shocked at how transfer rumours work. One of the first transfer stories I wrote was linking Adam Le Fondre to Liverpool because he was spotted shopping there.
Typically though, a random account/paper in Portugal or Spain would make a baseless claim. Then a more well-known site would pick it up for page views, which would always lead to the Mail, Sun, Mirror etc would print it but would use each other as the 'original source' so it started to sound less insane.
Everton is like me when fm linkes me with some random players ive never heard of during deadline day and im like "well it wont hurt to look at him"
25 failures, but that one 23 year old that requested a transfer for a hilariously low amount and would be your MVP immediately:
I don't know what part is more funny: the fact that fake rumours can be propagated so fast or that the fake rumour will become true.
the fun part is that the sheep believe in anything these days without checking for facts like AT ALL - same with wars going on today but just on TV etc
It almost became true because Everton is ran by a stupid old man who know nothing about football. No proper board
“I’m not gonna mess with Everton, that’s Reece’s team”
“Everton is interested”
Next time tell Zealand to do Mbappe or Haaland. You never know.
This is like on FM when there's a new article about my team allegedly interested in a player and I'm like "Who the F is that guy?" *right click* *scout for 1 week*
7:20 that was actually my theory too...
And I don't think Z undershot it by quoting "£25m incentives included", I'd say maybe Watford saw the tweet and decided to play hardball 😁 it was deadline day after all 😂
Zealand might not realize that not just transfer odds are weird, transfer processes are even weirder too, regardless of the stature of the clubs involved.
The stuff that goes behind the scenes is absolute bonkers.
Isn't there an old urban myth that Rangers almost went for Messi (coincidentally around the time he had a great World Youth Championship) because Alex McLeish's kid said he was class on ChampMan
@@dweebyllo8615 Southampton were in for Messi too
I’ve always thought this was the case. So many rumours and transfer gossip feels like they’ve just pulled a footballers name and a club from out of a hat. I must have seen Messi photoshopped into a Man City kit over 50 to 100 times in any named newspaper for the last decade 😂
True! The amount if times ive seen CR7 in a Bayern München kit is also astonishing (especially because in the past 5 years only Ronaldo, not Munich was interested.... :D)
@@gandalf_thegrey Ronaldo is still the owner of Bayern
@@gandalf_thegreyyeah but that’s because CR7 needed a world class striker after Lewa left, and they’re both similar types of players, so still possible
Depending on the timelines you know that Everton was desperately trying to find who leaked that transfer rumor for those few hours.
This is genuinely hilarious! Shows how little work and research some of these websites/Twitter pages actually do!
its even worse for the press
As an Everton fan, it wouldn't surprise me at all to discover they saw your tweet and thought "yeah, he knows what he's doing more than we do, let's try it".
We had already bid for him. 🙄
@@godseye13k Thank goodness we failed.
Z, that last thing you said is totally possible. Maradona's last job as a manager in Gimnasia came about just like that: a fan posted a joke tweet about the interest in hiring him, journalists citing sources from the club said it was false, but management finally went "hey, why not?", and went out and hired him. It was both hilarious and shocking how a joke misinformation tweet could influence actual decisions made by clubs.
This reminds me of fm when a reporter asks if I’m interested in a player I’m “linked” to even though I’m not but then have a look and actually go on to sign him😂
This is what I do in FM, a reporter says I'm allegedly interested in signing someone and I go like hmmmm yes good idea thanks for the tip
Legit though, I found some good player because of that lmao.
I use the polls on the social media to decide if I sign someone or not 🤣
I was there when he created the tweet. The fact that Everton did actually try to get the player was surprising.
I'm an everton fan and I love your editor instantly then! :) Give him a hug Zealand, he like me might need it by the end of the season lol
I was in that everton space when this happened. There were 9000 people in the space and it was all that they talked about for about 20 minutes
thats funny lol
Its like the 3rd time this has happened lol, Spanish RUclipsrs do It a lot. Like Marcelo to Lecester
Odds changed because people were backing it (need to reduce liability on the market), not necessarily the tweet on it's own. There would be a correlation though
yep
That's a pretty direct correlation tho
Hey Z, I'm a sports trader for a big company in the UK and Australia and my specialty is football. Realistically from a bookies perspective we have to be aware and potentially move odds off something with little to no credibility. Otherwise bookmaking wouldn't be a profitable business. For example, I made the market for Ronaldo's next club by the end of the January window, when the rumours started coming through about him going to Saudi I ended up deciding to suspend the market as the rumours increased even though there was a time where all the rumours seemed to get shut down. I'd say there's no harm betting on transfers, just dont bet more than your reasonable limits and don't risk more than you can afford on something so fragile. Even if a transfer rumour was official they can fall through for a number of reasons last minute.
As for the absurdity of the transfer mill I cant comment on that, it is ridiculous.
We often also move odds depending on how much 'traffic' or how popular that selection is. The odds could have been moved not due to your tweet but due to a number of bettors choosing to bet on Everton as his next club and due to this they reduced the odds to save themselves money. The biggest source for bookmakers are their clients decisions
Knowing Everton's ownership, it's probably quite likely that they saw the shitpost and thought it was a good idea
Z: We do a little trolling.
What really happened is someone at Everton saw the tweet and figured that it was actually a good idea and enquired to Watford and you will never convince me otherwise
Considering they tried to get him for like 3 transfer windows, unless Zeland is a time traveler, I doubt it.
Personally... I'd have done it with James Ward-Prowse
No reply?
Stephen Howson did a few scout reports on his youtube channel, and immediately after he put them out, several clubs, sadly usually not Manchester United since Howson has a good eye for scouting, come in for the players.
Reminds me of the time that a /r/hockey user influenced a NHL team the Montreal Canadiens to acquire free agent, Paul Byron after a RUclips video said reddit user made. Reddit user made a RUclips video showing how adept he was into getting breakaway chances and his speed, unfortunately he was never able to convert those chances into goals.
The Montreal Canadiens' front office saw said video and actually reached out to Paul Byron and his agent to acquire his rights. Byron was signed to the Canadiens and received the proper coaching that he needed. He went from a five goal scoring defensive forward to a fifteen, twenty goal scoring forward capable of playing the two way game.
Frequent hip Injuries have plagued him recently, he is still currently employed by the Canadiens.
And now he goes and actually transfers to Crystal Palace...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ben did this with JWP. Was funny as hell
the gift of prophecy is not to be underestimated mister Zealand
I just got recommended this and when I went to sofascore i found out Ismael Sarr went to Palace
Zealand accidentally figures out how fake news and content farm work in a live stream. Its great content love it
I'm an Everton fan and I saw this on an Everton fan page and got exited
I was a minute into this video before I realized that you were talking about reality and not FM23. You are a fucking madlad.
This story was insane and I was incredibly surprised The Athletic picked that up. I always thought The Athletic was all about good sports journalism
The Athletic might actually picked that up from "real" source because the transfer structure they mentioned was different from what Z's tweeted.
@@Onigiricat So like what.. the "real" sources picked up Zealand's rumor and then The Athletic reported the news because they thought it was legit? Just trying to understand, because that was surprising to me.
@@zahreel3103 No, apparently there was an actual talk between the clubs for Sarr's loan deal to Everton, like, a real one
Oh I see, so it might have been a real thing. Thank you
@@zahreel3103 yeah at the end of this video Z said how funny it is that a couple hours after his tweet, Everton actually wanted Sarr
A few years a go I made up a rumour about a goalkeeper that I thought my club should sign. The goalkeeper was Johannes Hopf who was playing for Hammarby in Sweden at the time, so I mentioned on my clubs fan site that I heard on the "grapevine" that my club was looking to sign him. Less than a day later there was an article on the fan site saying how we're interested in signing him and a whole profile about him, as well as a local Swedish newspaper interviewing the manager or owner of Hammarby saying they are aware of my clubs interest in Johannes Hopf. It was funny and surreal to watch it all unfold. I still have a laugh about it with mates to this day, how easy it is to make up a transfer rumour and watch it snowball...
FORWARD MADISON!!!!! LETS GO!!! Love the kit man!
I honestly don't even know what's more crazy.
The way he started a whole transfer rumor and slashed the betting odds 3x with no evidence and even admitting on live that it's not even real, or the fact that Everton actually tried to pursue him a bit afterwards
"Some idiot making it up for clicks"
"Harsh but fair....."
LOOOOOOOL
Right league, wrong club
I think you made it perfectly because I'm pretty sure there were Sarr to Everton rumours last season
odds will shift due to customer engagement as much as actual likelihood... Profit that betting companies make is dependent on the distribution of bets, rather than the odds of bets.
Odds are calculated to facilitate equal betting engagement. In an A vs B situation, this is so that people betting on either team/draw are approximately even, and whatever outcome, the house wins X%. Across the transfer market, it'll be spread like that across rumours so that people are avoiding a specific player unequally... making odds shorter reduces potential payout, makes it less attractive.
Lmao I can imagine people from Everton being so confused where you got the info from
I like how adding a siren emoji along with club colors and a hastag makes it look so more official
Everton might be me on deadline day.
When I just saw a rumour on fm's deadline day and went "hey thats a great idea" xD
To be honest that is exactly how Roma got Batistuta. They didnt have plan to sign him and some local Radio show in Rome said that Roma is intersted in Batistuta. All Rome went crazy and at the end AS Roma had to send the offer to Fiorentina and they got the player which won them last Scudetto.
Sorry to burst your bubble Zealand but the only reason it was so hyped up by us Everton fans and it actually happened is because we are linked with him every season for the last 2-3 seasons. Great idea though, should try it again next time
still, aggregators just copy his tweets verbatim despite zealand not providing any source is kinda mad.
Who's here after he moved to palace lol
Nice jersey man. Wisconsinite here ❤
Great content. AND love that you've sorted your hair before, rather than on camera.
Scenes when sarr signes for everton in the summer, scores a last minute winner to keep them up on the final day, then breaks haalands premier league goal record as everton win the premier league title, fa cup and carabao cup the next season, and sarr stays at everton for another decade as they win 10 septuples (prem, fa, carabao, ucl, community shield, super cup, club world cup) in a row and ultimately goes on to become evertons leading all time goal scorer, all time premier league top goal scorer, 10 time ucl winner and 9 time ballon d'or.
No way he’s actually now an Everton player
Next Level Genius.
Great work as always Z.
This is quite hilarious! But it is an excellent experiment video, a perfect display of how silly social media can be during transfer season. Brilliant experiment! 🤣
Madison has a long history with plastic pink flamingos. They're the official city bird lol
Betting odds movement isn't much of an indicator in such a niche market as transfers happening. Especially when it's around a player like Sarr who is far from a household name. A very small bet would have a big effect on the market.
Zealand this is the most amazing thing ever, bravo sir 👏👏👏
This is crazy 😂 and they came in for him too. I feel sorry for you everton fans.
Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life
Give it 5yrs before this man is managing somewhere. Seems destined for it.
Spursito has also done this a couple times lol, and his Marcelo to Leicester rumor got huge.
Always fun to watch the "experts" take the bait
Oh wow. I saw this tweet from an Everton account as I knew straight away it was fake as Ismailia Sarr has been very loyal since he’s come in and I didn’t see him going to a relegation struggling team. However in all fairness fair play to you for how it blew up so quickly 🤣👏🏿
Sarr has joined Palace
an everton board member saw your tweet as was like “Hamg on that’s a shout” 😂
All I’m seeing and hearing is that you sir are a visionary
7:49 spellcheck has done you dirty there
Only just seen this video. I remember the rumour going about on deadline day
"this is unbelievable jeff" cit.
Z looks like the dwarf in “In Bruges”
Lol I saw that tweet when you uploaded it and just thought "huh wierd why is Zeeland reporting everton news"
There's a concept in philosophy called a Gettier case. This is a perfect example of it. Weirdly, this became a self-fulfilling prophecy.
zealand playing save your save with everton irl
100% that's what happened and Everton saw the tweet and tried to sign him. Their boardroom and leadership is in such shambles that they don't even know what they're doing any more. 🤣🤣🤣
If this tweet did make Everton attempt to buy Sarr, I reckon they were looking at him for a while, but hadn't quite made up their minds yet. And then this tweet made their mind up.
it's that forward madison jersey doing workkkk
Absolutely possible some media type at Everton saw the rumours, saw the reaction and thought, "we have to look we're making a play this to keep the fans happy". They don't need to have been serious, just have a discussion so people could (legitimately) say they had a discussion.
Idk why people want Ismaila Sarr... As a Watford fan, I can tell you that he really is not that good. He cannot cross for the life of him and only can do something if he has loads of room to run in
As A Manchester United Fan...yes also Dont also do it to Liverpool Because AC Milan Got Beaten In Pens On The Miracle Of Istanbul Fron celebrating In Half time
It's the Lord's work you're doing here Z!
This is scary. How do we know sportsbooks aren’t doing this just to squeeze more money out of suckers?
Zealand just gaslighted a premier league football club into spending the GDP of a small country with one tweet. The FM Gods powers are growing
I think Sarr has been linked to everton for the last 2-3 years but still a great experiment.
"Harsh, but fair!" :D
Fantastic!
didnt need to see this experiment as Benteke to Liverpool back in the day was exactly this
If only it was true tbh, not sure how we're planning to score any goals except for corners
Achievement unlocked - CERTIFIED INFLUENCER
casually changes the trajectory of a club and manipulates a betting market like a boss
This is fantastic and ridiculous. Great job!
There is of course a chance that betting sites caught wind of the actual rumour somehow, but even then I imagine that your tweet, and its propagation by other sites would have definitely impacted the odds further.
Man, betting odds really are stupid
ya know, a month on, I've realised smthn
now I would say DON'T do this, cause I imagine it'd likely land you in legal troubles (tho it might not, I can't say I'm an expert on gambling laws xD)
but a punter could really do stuff like this to their own advantage, let's fast forwards to this summer, say they could make a series of tweets, to build it up, putting the money in before the first one when the odds are like, let's say for sake of argument, 250-1
they start with like "Millwall's Dutch Attacking Midfielder Zian Flemming linked heavily to Premier League's Leicester City, Millwall have reportedly rejected a 15 million deal, more to come" bot some engagement, get the rumor mill spinning, then just wait a couple days
"Leicester City have reportedly sent Millwall a 20 million deal, desperate to get Zian Flemming to bolster their midfield depth" again, bot the engagement a bit, and if you're smart enough and bot well enough whilst not spending too much, say the odds drop to like 25-1, cashout early, made however much money and perhaps Zian Flemming doesn't ever move (or he does go to Leicester and you lost money, but risk for reward)
or if you're ballsy, and want the odds to shorten more, hit em again with the deal is closed to closed tweet "Millwall have reportedly accepted Leicerster's 25 million offer for Zian Flemming, it is now upto the Player to agree terms with Leicester to close the deal"
perfectly believable transfer, possibly illegal moves (again idk for sure, not an expert xD) huge profits
My favorite rumour was when a tv news station announced live on air that a fictional football player from a tv drama was going to be signed by a premier league club😂😂😂😂, they didn’t realise the player wasn’t real😮
Insert the FM "I don't know where this story has come from" press conference answer.
Bookies odds are a function of how much money is staked on a particular outcome.
Z what you have done is made people think the transfer is likely, they bet on that outcome, and the bookies adjust their odds.
People trust you Z. Be careful.
And this is why I waited 12 hours for Chelsea's official club website to announce the Enzo signing before celebrating.
Honestly, Ismaila Sarr to Everton for 25 million seems a really great deal for Everton. If I read it, I’d believe it knowing Everton have the cash and that position open and it wasn’t a long time ago Sarr was wanted by Liverpool so…
Sarr is a great player. Should be playing in the PL and not in the Championship if you ask me.
I'm 100% convinced they made the move because of the consequences of the tweet.
As much as I like this guys content normally - what I believe is far more likely to have actually happened was that Zealand "made up" a very likely and plausible transfer rumour that had already been discussed and circulated in previous days on social media and in the papers.
Around the same time that people with inside info were dropping big money on bets, causing the betting companies to reduce the odds to protect them from losses, Zealand put out his tweet.
So hang on, Zealand did an FM in real life?
I get news stories in-game saying my team is looking at X player Ive never heard of, so I click on them and occasionally they're actually worth signing so I make an offer.
Sounds like that's what happened here.
Watching this live was incredible
This is honestly your greatest ever video 🤣