Hi Mr. Mitsubishi your videos are awesome, very useful, and helped me get off the fence to buy my Outlander PHEV the other night. How do you get the energy flow animation on your 12-inch heads up display like that?
I just leased a 2023 Outlander SE PHEV. Only because I needed a backup car (our main car is a 2023 Kia Soul LX) and with the EV tax credit plus my money down I was able to get it for $317/month for 24 months, just waiting for the car market to do its thing and interest rates to figure out if they're going up or down or staying the same, I didn't want to commit to a long term loan to buy anything at these ridiculous rates. So its basically a "wait and see" car. The car is a mixed bag, it has a lot of both good and bad. #1 bad thing is thr gear shifter/selector. Took me 5 days to figure out how to get into Reverse from Park without having to go into Drive first. 2nd problem is the tires, thre 20" inch tires are TOO BIG and you feel every single bump on tbe road, this suspension was made for tires with larger sidewalls, maybe 16" or 18" maximum size wheels, this makes for a harsh and uncomfortable ride. #3 Although I didn't buy it for the 3rd row, it's notable that the 3rd row is useless. #4 The build quality is cheap. Car has 300 miles and already has rattle and creaks. We used to own a 2019 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 since new and it never made a squeak or rattle. Same for our Kias, never had squeaks or rattles. When I pull the driver door to close it, thr handle is detaching from the door, must be a worn out clip or something. Visibility is pretty bad too. But it's a lease so I don't really care, I'm tossing the keys back in 2 years assuming the car makes it. Positives are you can charge it and get phenomenal fuel economy. And the seats are comfortable and well made. That's it.
What happens if you charge your battery and then use normal hybrid mode like a self charging hybrid car and contínuosly press EV mode when ICE turns on and turn off EV for gliding with normal EV mode? Would the battery last longer?
Any opinion about the fact a lot of new 2023 phev owners in quebec could not start the car this weekend because it was too cold? No heating system for the batterie on the 2023 so they were told to wait for the outside temperature to be warmer to be able to start their cars...
Can @mr.mitsubishi confirm if plugged in some of the energy keeps the drive battery warm? On the first night of that cold snap I did not plug mine in. Next day, the power reduced warning sign came on. The drive battery was just to the right of the blue cold hash mark. I then plugged it over night and next day the drive battery temp was warmer, almost to the first white hash mark. I still got the power reduced warning though. But throughout the outside temp was the same.
I have heard so many of this. My thinking is that perhaps you can try keeping the vehicle turned on while plugged in. The temp you guys are dealing with is not normal. And very harsh condition for anything to work..
Picked up my PHEV yesterday and the dealership mentioned that, but said that the gas engine would kick in to warm the car in that case. Electric cars aren't meant to content with -30 or lower.
@@NnamzI drove 2018 Outlander PHEV GT from 2018 to 2022 and never had an issue starting or driving car at Temps as low as -35'C. Was hard to warm up the interior but car ICE started fine but was too cold for EV Mode. Now I am driving a 2022 Outlander PHEV GT since Sept 2022 and have never had a problem starting ICE and driving in -40'C that we has 2 yrs ago. 2022 has a bad habit of wanting the ICE to kick in even at 0'C. 2018 performed better in cold weather. From I have been reading the 2023 and 2023 won't even allow starting ICE at Temps below -20'C. Not good. I wanted to upgrade to a 2024 but am having 2nd thoughts now. I only have one vehicle and tp not want to be stranded in Winter Temps below -20'C
I just took a trip from British Columbia to Palm Springs, Ca and I tried using the different modes. When I had it in “normal”, it depleted the battery, and the engine was providing power to the battery and the battery was sending power to the wheels. The engine was not sending power to the transmission. It did the same thing when I was in save mode, except it didn’t completely drain the battery. I only saw it it happen a couple of times when the engine was sending power to the transmission as well as the battery. It was much better when it was going to the transmission, because the engine was running smooth and steady. When it wasn’t going through the transmission the engine was very erratic. It would go to high rpm’s and then back down. Do you think there is something wrong, or is it just me?
First Mitsubishi phev does not have a transmission. It's a direct drive from the generator to the electric motors. SAVE mode is basically hybrid mode, so it allows the ice to generate power by ICE and breaking regen. But when you do want full power on SAVE mode, because the battery power has been limited to retain its power level, therefore the ICE will have to rev higher to generate more power. But the beauty of the SAVE mode is that if you don't require the full power, it maintains at its hybrid fuel efficiency and its the best way to travel on long journeys and saving the the battery for slow speed zones or when power I'd required. Relying on the battery and draining it on long journeys actually uses much more fuel than saving it and uses at slow speeds or using it for your last stop.
@Peter Higgins twin electric motors. The ice transfers the power with a one speed cog to the Generator but the cog does not take on any resistance so its basically a none service item.
@David Yang Thanks for your reply, but I looked at the Mitsubishi website and it states that there is a parallel system and a series system. The parallel system is the cog that you mentioned and my question is how do I get the car to work in the parallel mode? I have seen it do this only a few times, and it works best when I am driving at 70 MPH on the freeway with the cruise control on and the regen flap on. The car wants to stay in series mode and the engine revs up to 7000 rpm then down to 3000 then back up repeatedly. When it is in parallel mode it is steady rpm’s and sending power to the battery as well. I put a call in to the nearest dealer, which is 1.5 hours away from Palm Springs, and they never called me back for an appointment.
@Jack Normandeau if you are requiring full power, the only way for the ice to not rev high is to allow both battery and ICE to run at the same time. Which means it will reduce its load. But the are will need to be on normal mode or performance mode with battery above minimum so it's less load on the ice and it will operate more quietly. This is only when FUll power is required. The only times I have ever used this is when my foot is at full throttle. You must also remember that the outlander phev is a heavy vehicle, takes alot of energy to push it at peak performance, and its only running a 2.4L naturally aspirated engine.
Can you do a video driving different speeds showing when parallel hybrid mode kicks in (motor connecting to front wheels). I want to know the lowest kph it will connect.
@@mr.mitsubishi My question would be how you can have the car memorize the ''EV'' mode on startup... So far I've found a trick to extend the use of the battery while in between 15 and 5 degrees ... (fall weather) where I hit the power, EV then brake and Power a second time This starts the car in EV mode already engaged. makes it even more gas saving!!! But how can I Memorize this setting??? Please tell me Mitsubishi tought of that!!??
@@jpatiaga not true, regenarative braking is only available once you hit 60% of battery left. but it does work with EV mode engaged. it acually makes so much more battery life!!! I frequently end up doing close to 80 km with the advertised 60km battery!! I've seen a youtube video explainning that regeration will be depleting the new electricity being induced when 60%+ charged by using the gas engine... that seems far fetched and incomprehensive to me... but I guess the wont allow it since so close to being fully charge and could potentialy damage the battery??
@deeroy2356 what do you mean not true 😂 I have one and I tell you, if you switch to regenerative braking mode instead of normal Drive mode, the EV mode becomes disabled
@@jpatiaga On mine (2023 Outlander), whenever the battery is above around 80%, if you select 3 or higher on the regen paddles, the ICE starts immediately, and it kicks you out of EV mode. Once / or if you start with the battery again around 80% or less, it will for some reason then let you select up to 5 on the regen paddle without the ICE starting and EV mode will again be selectable. Don't know why. Too bad you cannot select only charge to 80% in the charge controller. Many many times my ICE had to start because I was not quite below that magic % remaining on the battery. Hopefully a firmware update will fix this.
Hi Mr. Mitsubishi your videos are awesome, very useful, and helped me get off the fence to buy my Outlander PHEV the other night. How do you get the energy flow animation on your 12-inch heads up display like that?
So when you are driving cross country, what mode the car should he left on?
Great explanation, thank you!
Thank you for watching the video :)
Mr Mitsubishi, just wanted to clarify, will there be any issues starting the vehicle when it is -20 degree, thank you!!
I just leased a 2023 Outlander SE PHEV. Only because I needed a backup car (our main car is a 2023 Kia Soul LX) and with the EV tax credit plus my money down I was able to get it for $317/month for 24 months, just waiting for the car market to do its thing and interest rates to figure out if they're going up or down or staying the same, I didn't want to commit to a long term loan to buy anything at these ridiculous rates. So its basically a "wait and see" car. The car is a mixed bag, it has a lot of both good and bad. #1 bad thing is thr gear shifter/selector. Took me 5 days to figure out how to get into Reverse from Park without having to go into Drive first. 2nd problem is the tires, thre 20" inch tires are TOO BIG and you feel every single bump on tbe road, this suspension was made for tires with larger sidewalls, maybe 16" or 18" maximum size wheels, this makes for a harsh and uncomfortable ride. #3 Although I didn't buy it for the 3rd row, it's notable that the 3rd row is useless. #4 The build quality is cheap. Car has 300 miles and already has rattle and creaks. We used to own a 2019 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 since new and it never made a squeak or rattle. Same for our Kias, never had squeaks or rattles. When I pull the driver door to close it, thr handle is detaching from the door, must be a worn out clip or something. Visibility is pretty bad too. But it's a lease so I don't really care, I'm tossing the keys back in 2 years assuming the car makes it. Positives are you can charge it and get phenomenal fuel economy. And the seats are comfortable and well made. That's it.
What happens if you charge your battery and then use normal hybrid mode like a self charging hybrid car and contínuosly press EV mode when ICE turns on and turn off EV for gliding with normal EV mode?
Would the battery last longer?
Any opinion about the fact a lot of new 2023 phev owners in quebec could not start the car this weekend because it was too cold? No heating system for the batterie on the 2023 so they were told to wait for the outside temperature to be warmer to be able to start their cars...
Can @mr.mitsubishi confirm if plugged in some of the energy keeps the drive battery warm? On the first night of that cold snap I did not plug mine in. Next day, the power reduced warning sign came on. The drive battery was just to the right of the blue cold hash mark. I then plugged it over night and next day the drive battery temp was warmer, almost to the first white hash mark. I still got the power reduced warning though. But throughout the outside temp was the same.
I have heard so many of this. My thinking is that perhaps you can try keeping the vehicle turned on while plugged in.
The temp you guys are dealing with is not normal. And very harsh condition for anything to work..
Wow.. Sorry this happened to you.. I would assume Mitsubishi has tested it for cold as well.. Not sure why that happened..
Picked up my PHEV yesterday and the dealership mentioned that, but said that the gas engine would kick in to warm the car in that case. Electric cars aren't meant to content with -30 or lower.
@@NnamzI drove 2018 Outlander PHEV GT from 2018 to 2022 and never had an issue starting or driving car at Temps as low as -35'C. Was hard to warm up the interior but car ICE started fine but was too cold for EV Mode.
Now I am driving a 2022 Outlander PHEV GT since Sept 2022 and have never had a problem starting ICE and driving in -40'C that we has 2 yrs ago.
2022 has a bad habit of wanting the ICE to kick in even at 0'C.
2018 performed better in cold weather.
From I have been reading the 2023 and 2023 won't even allow starting ICE at Temps below -20'C.
Not good.
I wanted to upgrade to a 2024 but am having 2nd thoughts now. I only have one vehicle and tp not want to be stranded in Winter Temps below -20'C
I just took a trip from British Columbia to Palm Springs, Ca and I tried using the different modes. When I had it in “normal”, it depleted the battery, and the engine was providing power to the battery and the battery was sending power to the wheels. The engine was not sending power to the transmission. It did the same thing when I was in save mode, except it didn’t completely drain the battery. I only saw it it happen a couple of times when the engine was sending power to the transmission as well as the battery. It was much better when it was going to the transmission, because the engine was running smooth and steady. When it wasn’t going through the transmission the engine was very erratic. It would go to high rpm’s and then back down. Do you think there is something wrong, or is it just me?
First Mitsubishi phev does not have a transmission. It's a direct drive from the generator to the electric motors.
SAVE mode is basically hybrid mode, so it allows the ice to generate power by ICE and breaking regen. But when you do want full power on SAVE mode, because the battery power has been limited to retain its power level, therefore the ICE will have to rev higher to generate more power.
But the beauty of the SAVE mode is that if you don't require the full power, it maintains at its hybrid fuel efficiency and its the best way to travel on long journeys and saving the the battery for slow speed zones or when power I'd required. Relying on the battery and draining it on long journeys actually uses much more fuel than saving it and uses at slow speeds or using it for your last stop.
@@davidyang577 it does drive the front wheels above about 70 kph
@Peter Higgins twin electric motors.
The ice transfers the power with a one speed cog to the Generator but the cog does not take on any resistance so its basically a none service item.
@David Yang Thanks for your reply, but I looked at the Mitsubishi website and it states that there is a parallel system and a series system. The parallel system is the cog that you mentioned and my question is how do I get the car to work in the parallel mode? I have seen it do this only a few times, and it works best when I am driving at 70 MPH on the freeway with the cruise control on and the regen flap on. The car wants to stay in series mode and the engine revs up to 7000 rpm then down to 3000 then back up repeatedly. When it is in parallel mode it is steady rpm’s and sending power to the battery as well. I put a call in to the nearest dealer, which is 1.5 hours away from Palm Springs, and they never called me back for an appointment.
@Jack Normandeau if you are requiring full power, the only way for the ice to not rev high is to allow both battery and ICE to run at the same time. Which means it will reduce its load. But the are will need to be on normal mode or performance mode with battery above minimum so it's less load on the ice and it will operate more quietly. This is only when FUll power is required. The only times I have ever used this is when my foot is at full throttle.
You must also remember that the outlander phev is a heavy vehicle, takes alot of energy to push it at peak performance, and its only running a 2.4L naturally aspirated engine.
Can you do a video driving different speeds showing when parallel hybrid mode kicks in (motor connecting to front wheels). I want to know the lowest kph it will connect.
I will try :)
65km /h
How about service cost for phev models?
I’ll make a video on that at some point
I see my 2023 PHEV, using the battery in SAVE mode, while drive in the city. Like a hybrid mode. Engine in and out.
SAVE mode works Even better for long journeys. The battery works the most efficient when its in ow speed zones.
Thanks for the comment!
That's what HEV stands for after the p😊
My steering wheel warning sign comes on when I only push start button but not actually start the vehicle is it normal?
No warnings should come on.. Check in with your local service department.
Very interesting ! ! ! ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks :)
How do you clear the save value or does it automatically clear after shutting off the vehicle
You can manually reset through settings.
@@mr.mitsubishi My question would be how you can have the car memorize the ''EV'' mode on startup... So far I've found a trick to extend the use of the battery while in between 15 and 5 degrees ... (fall weather) where I hit the power, EV then brake and Power a second time
This starts the car in EV mode already engaged. makes it even more gas saving!!!
But how can I Memorize this setting??? Please tell me Mitsubishi tought of that!!??
Ev mode not available! What to do?
Maybe your battery is too low?
It's also not available with regenerative braking mode
@@jpatiaga not true, regenarative braking is only available once you hit 60% of battery left. but it does work with EV mode engaged. it acually makes so much more battery life!!! I frequently end up doing close to 80 km with the advertised 60km battery!!
I've seen a youtube video explainning that regeration will be depleting the new electricity being induced when 60%+ charged by using the gas engine... that seems far fetched and incomprehensive to me... but I guess the wont allow it since so close to being fully charge and could potentialy damage the battery??
@deeroy2356 what do you mean not true 😂 I have one and I tell you, if you switch to regenerative braking mode instead of normal Drive mode, the EV mode becomes disabled
@@jpatiaga On mine (2023 Outlander), whenever the battery is above around 80%, if you select 3 or higher on the regen paddles, the ICE starts immediately, and it kicks you out of EV mode. Once / or if you start with the battery again around 80% or less, it will for some reason then let you select up to 5 on the regen paddle without the ICE starting and EV mode will again be selectable. Don't know why. Too bad you cannot select only charge to 80% in the charge controller. Many many times my ICE had to start because I was not quite below that magic % remaining on the battery.
Hopefully a firmware update will fix this.
Can you drive a PHEV in hybrid mode?
I can tell that during save or when battery is depleated, you go HEV meaning hybrid electric vehicle. The p means just plug-in
kinda, Save mode is going to shut the gas engine off at red lights, start it only after about 15-20kmh but it's even better than just Hybrid
You would be going down a really big freakin' hill to recharge 5% of battery from the top of a hill.....
That was pretty steep hill but nothing too crazy
Seems useless
Could be handy in some cases
@mr.mitsubishi can't you choose not to use the battery without that option? Maybe that is what I don't understand