This is food for thought, brilliant. Spirituality in the wrong hands will become a weapon. There is deep secrets about the beginnings of life, but it will never be revealed.
The cutting edge of human culture is evolving beyond the human enterprise's religious phase. Now we have the scientific method, neurobiology, evolutionary and clinical psychology. This adds up to real understanding rather than baseless speculation.
I loved the podcast Simon, I am so excited for the next. I always wanted to know more about religions that were born in Europe that's a topic I never seemed to cover so well, but now this podcast will help me learn more.
Ive been sharing your initial graphic from an article I found for years now in trying to help people self realize their identity culturally. Im so stoked you have a youtube channel!!!! This work has always captivated me. Specifically Id love to have an episode which addresses astrology specifically at some point :) Its present throughout in most cultures
Hi Ajmes, thanks for your interest. Yes, there’s a free HD copy (watermarked and protected) available on Imgur. Simply click "Download" to get your HD version: imgur.com/V2Fknn2.
Hi Melanie, That's an interesting idea-I hadn't heard about that connection before. Do you have any more information on it? As I understand, the Proto-Indo-Europeans migrated from the Black Sea region around 5,000 to 8,000 years ago, carrying their myths and culture into Europe, as well as southward into Persia and eventually into India. There seems to be evidence of their influence extending eastward into Mongolia, East Asia, and possibly even the Polynesian islands. Some theories even suggest that these cultural elements may have reached as far as South America.
I recommend reading The Origin of the World Mythologies, by Michael Witzel, it's an absolute must for world myth. There is also a great book called Indo-European Poetry and Myth, by Martin Litchfield West which covers the Indo-European migration in detail. :-)
"Faith" is required to "Believe in Lies" and that is why religions/cults are created and demand "Faithfulness" to maintain Power and Control over their subjects.
I'm going to address this issue in my upcoming podcasts, but I suspect there are many theologians who truly believe in their religion, which means they are not seeking to dupe or control people, but rather enlighten them. Atheists may see their faith as misguided and delusional, whereas theologians will consider it a virtuous endeavour, helping them to experience the 'divine' on a more subjective level. I'll also add that there are entrepreneurs out there who are ethical and generous with their wealth, while others are charlatans who dupe people out of their money to make themselves incredibly wealthy. Perhaps the issue of deception and control is a not just a church problem, but a social problem, which affects all spheres of culture, such as education, law and media, etc... As I stated in my video, I'm approaching this series as an agnostic, so I'll challenge all the faiths in my tree of religion, but I'll stay listen to them with an open mind, in case there are deeper truths and insights that may share with us along the way.
These Arkite, Arvad{Arya}, Gomer, Magog, Madai, Tubal, Meshech tribes encountered the few AZZUHR peoples {Neanders/ Denisovan} also survivors of worldwide floods of 4502bc.
Link the Greek to Judaism There are many new( and older) scholastic theories of a Phoenician tribe using greek mythology ti validate the Idea of Israel Hesiods Theogony for instance
Myths, legends, fairytales and religion were all born of the same cloth. Myths, legends and fairytales were stories told to explain the unknown. As more people believed these stories, or someone figured out how to control others with them, they became a religion. As understanding and knowledge grew those in power have always sought to destroy the knowledge so as to remain in power.
I've heard many people share the same opinion on religion. I'd like to believe that some religious founders, who believed they had undertaken a profound, 'religious' experience, used their knowledge to help, rather than to capitalise on others. Emerging evidence has shown us that people who have a near-death experiences, often undergo a major transformation, becoming more charitable, humble and kind. Perhaps Buddhism, Aboriginal Dreamtime and early Christianity were all truly transformative religions, with good intent. However, as often happens, systems typically become too large and complex, and corruption sets in. I'll be interested in learning more about it when I speak with some theologians later down the road.
"Woven" of the same "threads". "Cut" from the same "cloth". "Born of the same cloth" mixes metaphors. Cloths aren't born. Cloths are made, they are "woven".
love Jon, I am always curious as to how women became subjugate. Certainly a bit more controversial than Creaganford.Jon is an academic so silly asking him spiritual questions.
Out of africa is the myth.when i first looked into the subject decades ago asia in my opion was the best bet.decades later i think it could have come from anywhere
After 2200bc Arctic, tribes went south mixing with brown complexioned peoples, some Meshech migrating to the west into Hawilah-Americas 1500-500bc, not 15,000-500bc.
Upon migrating upon the brown peoples these Arctic tribes used their whitness to justify their overlord status. This started in Asia 2200bc continuing south and west into 1500bc, domino effecting into present times.
The HAM-Arkites, Arvad{Arya}, & YAFET-Gomer, Magog, Madai, Meshech, Tubal, conquered the Arctic lands of Fire and Ice, becoming pale, pink, yellow, 4400-1500bc, not 440,000- 15,000ya.
Hi there. I’m always open to hearing alternative viewpoints and exploring other theories. The “Out of Africa” model is indeed supported by a strong scientific consensus based on fossil, genetic, and archaeological data, which forms the foundation of my work. However, I’m aware that there are ongoing studies and emerging perspectives that add complexity to out of Africa hypothesis. If you’re open to discussing your viewpoint, I’d love to hear more. I believe in grounding my work in evidence-based research while staying open-minded to new ideas, and I appreciate it when others are willing to share their insights constructively. Feel free to share your ideas, not only for myself but for everyone interested. And if you have a change of heart, feel free to watch the rest of the video, Jon Whites insights are very balanced and eye opening. 🙂
@@Ajmes @lorihahn-brown4709 The Out of Africa theory hasn't been debunked; it's still the most robust model for understanding human origins. Recent findings show that modern humans interbred with other hominins like Neanderthals and Denisovans during their migrations out of Africa, but our genetic and anatomical roots trace back to Africa. It's a fascinatingly complex story, but Africa remains the cradle of modern humanity.
Lol Crecs Rationalist Atheist Ethics is so cringe. He, like many experts, is so uninformed of anything outside his highly specialised field. No matter, he knows his field and that's what matters
I thoroughly enjoyed our discussion, and I wish you luck with this series.
Thanks again for being my first guest Jon, I really appreciate the support. Looking forward to shooting part two with you later this week. 👍
Simon and Jon, I really appreciate what you are doing. Thank you. 🙏🏾
This is food for thought, brilliant. Spirituality in the wrong hands will become a weapon. There is deep secrets about the beginnings of life, but it will never be revealed.
The cutting edge of human culture is evolving beyond the human enterprise's religious phase. Now we have the scientific method, neurobiology, evolutionary and clinical psychology. This adds up to real understanding rather than baseless speculation.
I hope that chart is for sale.
I want a wall sized copy.
I'm happy that RUclips sent me here. Probably because I'm subscribed to Crecanford.
Thanks for the interest, Here's a link to my shop, you can buy an A1 or A0 on my Shopify store: b1995f-35.myshopify.com
I loved the podcast Simon, I am so excited for the next. I always wanted to know more about religions that were born in Europe that's a topic I never seemed to cover so well, but now this podcast will help me learn more.
Very imaginative and creative project you're builiding. It's alot easier to know where you are, when you have a map. Thanks for your service.
Very very interesting 🤔 I'm glad to of subscribed to this channel.
Great to have you on board, and thanks for the feedback, episode 2 should be out by the end of the month. 🙂
Ive been sharing your initial graphic from an article I found for years now in trying to help people self realize their identity culturally. Im so stoked you have a youtube channel!!!! This work has always captivated me. Specifically Id love to have an episode which addresses astrology specifically at some point :) Its present throughout in most cultures
Recommend the works of Joseph Campbell, Huston Smith, Karen Armstrong, Elaine Pagels, and John Dominic Crossman. Among others.
I love Among Others. I've read everything that guy ever writes.
Can we look at this chart somehow without paying 65$...?
Hi Ajmes, thanks for your interest. Yes, there’s a free HD copy (watermarked and protected) available on Imgur. Simply click "Download" to get your HD version: imgur.com/V2Fknn2.
What's the name of the book you guys are talking about at 9:20?
The Origin of the Worlds Mythologies, by Michael Witzel. It’s an absolutely brilliant book.
@@mythopia1 Thank you
I can see folio books in the background :)
Is there somewhere we can look at your infographic the tree of religion?
The Norse myths which is said evolved from Indian myths. Developed strong moral rules around monogamy and family problem solving
Hi Melanie,
That's an interesting idea-I hadn't heard about that connection before. Do you have any more information on it? As I understand, the Proto-Indo-Europeans migrated from the Black Sea region around 5,000 to 8,000 years ago, carrying their myths and culture into Europe, as well as southward into Persia and eventually into India.
There seems to be evidence of their influence extending eastward into Mongolia, East Asia, and possibly even the Polynesian islands. Some theories even suggest that these cultural elements may have reached as far as South America.
Would you post the author name and book titles if the mythology books you mentioned?
I recommend reading The Origin of the World Mythologies, by Michael Witzel, it's an absolute must for world myth. There is also a great book called Indo-European Poetry and Myth, by Martin Litchfield West which covers the Indo-European migration in detail. :-)
We are less violent, and our religions reflect that. Our religious beliefs didn't make us less violent.
"Faith" is required to "Believe in Lies" and that is why religions/cults are created and demand "Faithfulness" to maintain Power and Control over their subjects.
I'm going to address this issue in my upcoming podcasts, but I suspect there are many theologians who truly believe in their religion, which means they are not seeking to dupe or control people, but rather enlighten them. Atheists may see their faith as misguided and delusional, whereas theologians will consider it a virtuous endeavour, helping them to experience the 'divine' on a more subjective level.
I'll also add that there are entrepreneurs out there who are ethical and generous with their wealth, while others are charlatans who dupe people out of their money to make themselves incredibly wealthy. Perhaps the issue of deception and control is a not just a church problem, but a social problem, which affects all spheres of culture, such as education, law and media, etc... As I stated in my video, I'm approaching this series as an agnostic, so I'll challenge all the faiths in my tree of religion, but I'll stay listen to them with an open mind, in case there are deeper truths and insights that may share with us along the way.
@@mythopia1 like "Name it and Claim it” or "Think and Grow Rich"?
These Arkite, Arvad{Arya}, Gomer, Magog, Madai, Tubal, Meshech tribes encountered the few AZZUHR peoples {Neanders/ Denisovan} also survivors of worldwide floods of 4502bc.
Link the Greek to Judaism
There are many new( and older) scholastic theories of a Phoenician tribe using greek mythology ti validate the Idea of Israel
Hesiods Theogony for instance
Myths, legends, fairytales and religion were all born of the same cloth. Myths, legends and fairytales were stories told to explain the unknown. As more people believed these stories, or someone figured out how to control others with them, they became a religion. As understanding and knowledge grew those in power have always sought to destroy the knowledge so as to remain in power.
I've heard many people share the same opinion on religion. I'd like to believe that some religious founders, who believed they had undertaken a profound, 'religious' experience, used their knowledge to help, rather than to capitalise on others. Emerging evidence has shown us that people who have a near-death experiences, often undergo a major transformation, becoming more charitable, humble and kind. Perhaps Buddhism, Aboriginal Dreamtime and early Christianity were all truly transformative religions, with good intent. However, as often happens, systems typically become too large and complex, and corruption sets in. I'll be interested in learning more about it when I speak with some theologians later down the road.
"Woven" of the same "threads". "Cut" from the same "cloth". "Born of the same cloth" mixes metaphors. Cloths aren't born. Cloths are made, they are "woven".
The first Human from the Eden realm {parallel dimension} everywhere are red-brown in complexions 17,297-4500bc, not from 1,729,700- to- 15,000ya.
Red Bull much?
love Jon, I am always curious as to how women became subjugate. Certainly a bit more controversial than Creaganford.Jon is an academic so silly asking him spiritual questions.
Man rides horses, and not the other way around. Why? Because he could. Horses can't. It's not complicated.
Out of africa is the myth.when i first looked into the subject decades ago asia in my opion was the best bet.decades later i think it could have come from anywhere
After 2200bc Arctic, tribes went south mixing with brown complexioned peoples, some Meshech migrating to the west into Hawilah-Americas 1500-500bc, not 15,000-500bc.
Upon migrating upon the brown peoples these Arctic tribes used their whitness to justify their overlord status. This started in Asia 2200bc continuing south and west into 1500bc, domino effecting into present times.
The HAM-Arkites, Arvad{Arya}, & YAFET-Gomer, Magog, Madai, Meshech, Tubal, conquered the Arctic lands of Fire and Ice, becoming pale, pink, yellow, 4400-1500bc, not 440,000- 15,000ya.
Your out of Africa theory has been debunked so you lost my interest from there…basically the beginning and I refuse to watch junk.
Hi there. I’m always open to hearing alternative viewpoints and exploring other theories. The “Out of Africa” model is indeed supported by a strong scientific consensus based on fossil, genetic, and archaeological data, which forms the foundation of my work.
However, I’m aware that there are ongoing studies and emerging perspectives that add complexity to out of Africa hypothesis. If you’re open to discussing your viewpoint, I’d love to hear more. I believe in grounding my work in evidence-based research while staying open-minded to new ideas, and I appreciate it when others are willing to share their insights constructively.
Feel free to share your ideas, not only for myself but for everyone interested. And if you have a change of heart, feel free to watch the rest of the video, Jon Whites insights are very balanced and eye opening. 🙂
You could just not watch, instead of embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.
@@Ajmes @lorihahn-brown4709
The Out of Africa theory hasn't been debunked; it's still the most robust model for understanding human origins. Recent findings show that modern humans interbred with other hominins like Neanderthals and Denisovans during their migrations out of Africa, but our genetic and anatomical roots trace back to Africa. It's a fascinatingly complex story, but Africa remains the cradle of modern humanity.
Lol Crecs Rationalist Atheist Ethics is so cringe. He, like many experts, is so uninformed of anything outside his highly specialised field. No matter, he knows his field and that's what matters