Nah she actually stood against Trump so I don’t think she hurt at all coming from a normal democrat maybe the far far leftists maybe but not regular democrats
No lessons will be learned by these consultants. Even if they have learned them, they won't listen to them. The only way forward for Democrats is for the party to clean house.
They're attached to white supremacy, and therefore billiomaires, like most of the Democratic Party. 7 million minorities, mostly women, almost all Democrats, didn't vote at all this time, which would have put Kamala ahead 3 times over. These guys, all of them on that campaign? "Find more white moderates next time, do the same thing we did that lost, get those moderates!!!" It's not even about specific racial policies, they just don't even count the minorities that aren't voting like the majority of white people. They can't grasp that minorities can just choose to not vote.
@@kimwarton4894And way too much traditional politics! Joe doesn't act "outside the box." Today's America, with our exploding inequality, demands a revoultionary mindset in a leader. That's NOT Joe.
@@MrPhotodoc There's nothing wrong with ''parties'' as long as the people within them at all levels are able to keep their personal egos and ambitions in check and act for the greater good and not just for the ME. Any organization, company or country of any reasonable size runs far better with a structured management team over any group of individuals all wanting the Leaders role. The Tesla idea might've come from a small group of pre ZZXelon Musk individuals but the 'end product' certainly didn't come directly from the same hands Mr.
@@sinetteiversen9978 Haha ... Yeah but Not for 'their' own personal wealth accounts, I'm bigly sure of that outcome. At least the Sinema slapper learnt how to do a 'thumbs down' signal, it might come in handy when she's told some home-truths in any future public outings she has.
As much as I prioritize Gaza I think the main negative of her campaign was trying to reinforce the losing brand of pro establishment, not the failure to condemn the genocide which had a smaller impact.
Nope. In the real world it was a fear & easily created & manipulated hate of whatever they believe "Woke" to be. In some edge cases, they are right. Harris did not lose because of being a her or of color. In the real, big boy & girl world, not the internet/social media, this is reality.
I think Gaza had a huge effect on the young people, along with the Arab/Americans. Many young people just couldn’t stomach the way she ignored the protesters, many of them were Jewish. They treated disgracefully at her convention. The Jewish guy’s banner was forcibly torn from his hands and he was manhandled out of the event. It was quite plain to see he was an Orthodox Jew. He gave an interview to Al Jazeera, he was so upset.
I think it had a much bigger impact than is measurable, and from both ends. Not only did it cause both people to vote third party, sit out but it also caused low information voters to vote for trump and confirmed his anti war message. You and I know that message is not true but many people don't.
I’m so glad I can watch this analysis. I tried watching the whole interview and it was the longest batch of MBA-driven consultant non-answers I’ve heard since I got laid off from my bullshit consulting job in finance lol. 😵💫
I am with you here. I was shocked when she started campaigning with Liz Cheney. At least 2-3 people I know stayed home after that. It was just a terrible move by her. I agree, Gaza also kept so many young people away. She gave this election away...also people who say she was too left are crazy. Where was she left? On what topic?
SHE wasn't too far left but many(minority but LOUD) of her supporters were and had been, driving friends, family, & coworkers to associate democrats with these crazy far left ideas. The right then ran with it & beat us over the head w/it & we let them. So, yah. It was a big reason.
At the very start of her campaign, Harris & Walz took swings at complaining about inequality and greed from the uber rich. Immediately, Harris got a call from her own bro-in-law, a big time corporate attorney for Uber who basically told his sis-in-law to STFU about bashing rich ppl. From that moment on, Harris & Walz changed their messaging.
@@jgb_fan np. It's that she could never speak to her policies. I still genuinely don't know where she is among any non popular issues. She basically was trump lite
Thanks Sam and Emma. It's very demoralising to see some of the supposed left now blaming the left wing activists for the loss and some even joining Trump. Thank you Sam for remaining consistent in your politics.
This election wasn’t about policy or who ran a better campaign. Americans chose racism and sexism over democracy and that’s it. MAGA symbolizes “taking the country back” from the minorities that have been taking over. That’s why their platform been about nothing but Deportation, anti-Diversity, and anti “wokeness”
beyond just the Cheneys, in the last week before the election, I remember seeing a lot of blue maga libs calling for George W Bush to come out in support of Kamala. comments like “Bush is a coward if he doesn’t endorse her…” I was like “noo, wtf are you guys doing?? please stop it, that’s a TERRIBLE idea!”
All that taught me was that W was a fraud since when he pretended to care about America like his successor, rump, it was a total lie. But then again that's what I expected of him. But anyway, we know that it's always about the big $$$. If people are browbeat enough into believing republican propaganda, which is always about money including everything else, they will throw the Democrats out, not the bums, aka republicans, but instead the Democrats.
Only a strong-willed president backed by huge masses of Americans can get the job done: That job is to raise taxes on the wealthiest businesses and individuals. When you do that, it forces the business owner(s) to want to invest in their business & workers. End stock buybacks which is causing Stock Market to appear more valuable as a meter of America's wealth--which it isn't, it's over-valued and overinflated.
@@andreah6379 Yeap, alas the same rich people own both parties, so none of the necessary changes will ever happen :( Stuff like Germany's third of publicly listed boards need to be voted from/by the work force of the company.
@@crimsonjedi then just be a republican. If Liz Cheney endorsed, Republican speeches, republican tax cuts, and republican foreign policy didn't work. Republicans still voted for trump, while the left plugged their nose and voted. She could've won by saying real policies like universal health care for kids. Let republicans say no to health care for kids.
Progressives weren't running the campaign. The Democrats ran a centrist campaign of little policy substance. Mark Cuban and Liz Cheney were more visible surrogates than Sanders, Warren, or any member of the Progressive Caucus.
She mistakenly thought the big billionaires she had supporting her were higher priority than having the masses of Americans support her. She measured her popukarity by the numbers in her rallies and her ppl refused to believe the polls were even right, that they were wrong before, true, but that this time, RW pollsters must be screwing with the numbers. It was a common myth repeated ad nauseum by so many leftwing "progressive" type show hosts, even on FSTV like Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann and Randi Rhodes. Stephanie & Randi are more pro-corporate but they all repeated the BS myth instead of looking into the reality of their own delusion.
As soon as I saw Hillary, Cheneys, and the tone of the campaign went from joy to" talking about Trump" at every rally I knew she was going to lose. Haven't the Dems learned from Trump? If she had let the Palestinian women speak at the DNC OR every rally say I will do an immediate ceasefire!!
Saw the whole thing and left a scathing comment after, the comment section on the video is amazing tho, no one is buying what they are selling Edit: Holy shit props for PSA, they just uploaded a post mortem with Hasan. I give them credit for giving him the same space as they gave ploufe
Wow, a scathing comment! That will definitely rattle the cages! You’re really doing Gods work. Get your head out of your ass; you’re far more useless than these consultants
It kind of makes one wonder though, why are people so savvy as to not buy what Democrats are selling, but then they fall head over heals for the guy and the party who is demonstrably worse by far than Democrats could ever hope to be, on those exact issues that they claim to be good at. Yes makes one wonder where people get the impression that republicans have any interest in solving problems for Americans after 4-6 decades of doing the opposite, especially in the last 2 and 1/2 decades.
It is insane that these people get hired for any job. "We would have to say she would have done things differently if we wanted to please anyone". Exactly you fools! you knew what you needed to do but were too cowardly to do it!
Which was what? Easy to armchair quarterback, I bet before the election you were predicting a swing state sweep like Emma. and if you believe like her that Gaza really hurt Dems, you’re living in lala land.
As I said many times before.The issue of Gaza was like a trial balloon to see if the Democratic party was going to act on behalf of the donors i.e. A.I.P.A.C. or the average American voter.Biden and the Democrats clearly shown their complete allegiance to Zionism and thus to their donors over the average American voter !
We were seeing obvious signs of Dem leadership propping up corporate Dems, AIPAC, when Cori Bush lost her reelection, & when Jamaal Bowman lost his reelection and NOBODY within the party was mentioning their lost elections--at all! I heard from Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! not anywhere on corporate news channels that Hillary Clinton was aligning with reichwing uber rich to get rid of the loudest progressives that were pro-Gaza & doing this via a Pac funding AIPAC candidates. Leftwing shows from Stephanie Miller to Thom Hartmann to Randi Rhodes NEVER mentioned how sad their lost elections were. None of these so-called "progressive" hosts said one word about Bush or Bowman losing to AIPAC backed Democrats. Not one word. And of course, they protected Hillary's name & kept quiet. This is suppose to be true progressive media, FSTV, and even these show hosts cover for corporate Democrats, all the time!
The average American voter does not give a flying f+ck about Gaza! What are you even talking about? Even among the Democrats base this is a none issue. You have to move to the left before it becomes an topic of interest! If you continue to close your eyes only disappointment awaits you!
Holy s^t, I did NOT expect Emma to comment to Sam about running with this story right before Thanksgiving and her saying she hopes he's happy, then for him to say, "I guess I am," and then the video stops. I'm dying over here. That was awesome.
Since Bill Clinton, that's been true. Neoliberalism has been losing Dem party registrations year after year after year. But party leaders refuse to see the neon flashing red flags. For decades now.
Bruh, she literally had all the momentum until after she whooped Trump in the debate. Immediately starts more inclusive language and grabbed the Cheneys. Trying to run a 2008 campaign in 2024. They should have died on the hill of "They are weird" and slinging mud at Trump the same way he did them.
People who didn't vote or voted for a candidate with no policies that didn't stand a chance will, like everyone, feel the consequences of their decision.
Right. That's painfully basic. Trump voters will also feel the consequences and will likely feel quite differently about them than Stein voters, abstainers, etc. And?
This is the Democratic way. Rahn Emanuel?!? Obama administration, gets elected mayor of Chicago, forced to resign from said position for covering up the murder of a black teenager by his police force, surely this guy’s career is over right?!? No, no we got a spot for him. Like, what in the actual fuck are we doing here???
Staying home helped the people in Gaza how? Nothing else mattered. Not health care or women's rights or the Supreme Court or income inequality. None of that matters and Gaza wasn't going to change one way or the other. BUT by all means stay home and elect Trump to help those in Gaza. OK
To be honest I think it was her comment saying that she wouldn't be doing anything different than Joe Biden. That was a complete turn off. So when she added Cheney it was a reminder that she had voted against our interest & 95% for Trump's.
They were trying to tell a story and give an impression...that's the problem! She looked exactly like someone throwing up a facade instead of being authentic.
There is historical precedent for what Harris needed to do. Thomas Jefferson was Sec. of State under Washington alongside VP John Adams. They were very good friends, but in 1796 they ran against each other, and Adam was elected President and Jefferson VP. Adams offered Jefferson a sort of Power-Sharing agreement, but Jefferson said know. He turned his back on his friend John Adams, because he believed that Adams' politics, including eventually his Alien Enemies Acts and Sedition Acts (which Trump's campaign referenced as an excuse to deport people, incidentally), were detrimental to the country. Jefferson walked away from Adams and worked to sabotage everything Adams did because he put nation ahead of his friendship with Adams. Now, don't get me wrong, Jefferson had many of his own problems, but his vision for the country was clear, and he considered that vision more important than his friendships with Adams, or some idea of loyalty to a man. He was loyal to his country. That is what Harris was not. Her campaign of Biden staffers were loyal to Biden, to their paychecks and their personal reputations. Ironically, Republicans are the same way these days, with this obsequious subservience to Trump, but that is because Trump is their "useful idiot" for implementing their Project 2025 white Christian nationalist agenda. If they could get rid of Trump, the way Harris had the chance to get rid of Biden, they would do it in an instant and find the NEXT "useful idiot." Speaking of obsequious, Bill Ackman was especially in fellating mode on twitter yesterday, praising Trump's threats against Canada and Mexico as brilliant negotiating strategies... Ackman's vulture capital wealth needs to go. Never forget that Richard Gere's character in Pretty Woman was considered terrible when he was doing the things that people like Ackman and Paul Singer and Mitt Romney's Bain Capital do routinely these days...
As an older man in middle America, Israel/Gaza was the bottom of the list of what voters I spoke to cared about. In my perspective the election came down to young ppl. The GOP pivoted from trying to stop young ppl from voting to harnessing the red pill young male vote. Sadly I feel misogyny won the election.
@@BartSandel a lot of young people care about Gaza hence college protests. Fortunately democrats spent most of the year sending cops to beat up kids and calling them antisemitic. Explains why the turnout for Dems was low.
It wouldn't have mattered what the issues were. That's because republicans always choose those issues, the media follows suit, Democrats follow suit. Kamala is far far better in every measurable way, even right wing issues, but republican lies and the media who promote those lies won over any other consideration. If Kamala and Biden had done the polar opposite we would have heard the same exact thing from republicans/media. Would the voters have sat up and noticed if Democrats pulled out all of the stops instead of merely being far far far better than republicans? I don't know, I used to say they should and find out, and the voters, some of them anyway, would notice, even without the media's approval. But now knowing how little the truth affected this election, I'm not so sure. The "brocasters" might have still overwhelmed the truth even if they had.
Just remember even amongst people who vote many of them barely have a clue what's going on, and I mean that absolutely literally. They either are entirely unaware or choose to not believe it because they don't like the answer that either choice was going to be continued pain, but they failed to recognize who would bring excess pain vs the other.
Yep. I'm always shocked by how clueless many reasonably bright, upper-middle class voters are. They're not interested in politics so they ignore it until they vote, and they don't know a damn thing, and they don't know that they don't know a damn thing.
Yep, we get it..... everybody's stupid except you... so don't forget to keep telling them that, for that'll surely make them come around to your point of view...
I don’t know how hard it would have been just to say, “As a new Administration, we’re going to re-evaluate all policies and determine where improvements can be made.”
To me, it's really hard to believe that they win on that show and just so openly self-reported. It's really staggering to me that they're all not just hiding but that they're out there openly just taking credit for their vast losses.
She definitely could have separated herself from Biden on Gaza. Then VP Hubert Humphrey faced the same situation in 1968 over Indochina trying to put distance from the White House without openly breaking from the administration of which he was still part. He kept trying and the White House kept cutting him down until he finally directly broke with LBJ's policy on the war. As a result, his position improved and he almost caught up Richard "secret plan to end the war" Nixon.
America is facing significant challenges as a nation, grappling with moral shortcomings. Corporate Democrats often prioritize the interests of influential lobbies, including pro-Israel groups, over broader progressive ideals. Vice President Harris, for instance, seemed cautious about confronting these lobbying pressures. Activist Kevin Boykin attributes much of the political failure to white women and Latino men, citing their role as key voting blocs that often act against their own broader interests.
The Democratic Party is irredeemable - it will not change! America's working-class needs, and deserves a New political party. I hope Bernie Sanders starts a NEW political party; if he does, I'm with Bernie until the end of the line.
Leftwing pundits and show hosts all went by her rallies. They also pointed to 2022 "red wave," and said they knew pollsters were mostly RW rich funding them, so they had to be wrong. I couldn't blame them exactly because on Dump's side, he was appearing as a joke, boring his crowds, leaving them stranded, many left early during his rallies so by these appearances, yes, Dump looked like he was losing and the polls were made up.
@@haruhisuzumiya6650And? Trump has always stood with Israel. Harris stands with Israel, pretends maybe she doesn't stand with Israel, then continues to stand with Israel. 🤷🏿
Ha. 73+ million terrible, with best numbers wherever she campaigned personally - and the lowest margin separating Presidential candidates. All in 100 odd days 🤓
@@MadfunkidsThats the point @42tribes was making. Her support was highest when hit Biden with the coup detat. Then the populous heard her speak. The longer she campaigned, the worse it was going to be.
I don't think it's clear at all that supporting Gaza would have helped Harris. There are a lot of voters, particularly older ones, who are very pro-israel. It's very possible that you would have lost as many pro-israel votes (or even more) then you gained by going pro-gaza.
U Guys are nutz...she was the worst candidate of the modern era. She cannot articulate any coherent thought. "Lets not be burdened by what has been": are you serious. She had ridiculous amounts of money and could have done anything. She cannot even handle incredibly friendly interviews. The media was completely in the bag for her the entire campaign. She was wrong on almost every issue. Was she going to close the border, was she going lay out any economic plan that was not drivel like opportunity economy, was she going to drill, she was afraid to support any real targeted effort toward workers; not hands outs, and did anyone anywhere in the world respect her? She was an empty suit candidate. As the truth comes out she never even really came close. The polls lied for her for weeks. It is amazing to me that so many pundits actually thought she even had a chance. The problem is she really was a far left candidate who believed what she said in 2019 in a center right country. Your focus on the middle east is low on the list of priorities for the campaign. What would the US do if Canada did to us what Hamas did to Israel. What we do to free the proportional equivalent of 50k hostages? What would have been the response of Jewish donors/voters? She lost the bulk of the country. The worst is that the democratic elites still cannot truly understand how "they/them and the us" add is absolutely pathetic....it will likely lead to a generational loss of influence.
Who the holy fuck knows or can explain what happened to those of us not in Trump's (inexplicable) thrall. We are stuck & fatherfucking trapped in the wrong reality. I can't breathe. When I was a little kid the movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" scared me in the same way this election did.
Sorry I’m a bit late: totally agree: all I can add is it must have been incredibly “awkward” for PSA’s Dan. By that I mean The “Biden Rollover Campaign Team “ quite clearly had a second agenda based on protecting the “assumed” legacy of their former boss, they are just “dummies” but Plouffe, and his arrogance, his ignorance, his need to offload responsibility back on “the voters” he was paid to understand is disgraceful. As an international donor “I want my F’en Money back. And who did PSA immediately “go to” in an attempt to regain some cred, it was your honorary nephew Sam , Huss , who handled himself brilliantly as he always does. Goodonyas
I have to mention this - you guys sit on your studio in NY talking with such authority yet you were also COMPLETELY wrong about the election. Emma predicted a landslide for Harris. I thought it was crazy at the time. If I was that wrong about something I would quit my job. You get to keep talking with authority and so do they. I haven’t seen you acknowledge how out of touch you guys were.
The easiest response to that was she could have said she wouldn't have let the child tax credit expire and would reinstate it. Hearing these people talk in circles is infuriating. They shouldn't be involved in any campaigns going forward.
I almost didn't vote for her, particularly because of Gaza. Since '16 I've been voting 3rd party because I'm done being Charlie Brown to the DCCC's Lucy. I can't stand corporate Dems. It was down to the wire, my mail-in ballot was filled in except for the top, up until I couldn't delay anymore. Finally it was hold my nose and vote - not 'for her', but - against the fascist.
Campaigning with Cheney was a huge mistake. Not pushing back against Netanyahu strongly enough was also a huge mistake, but I don’t think either one of these things really affected black voters. Over 90% of black women and about 75% of black men voted for Harris. There’s a small percentage of non-white Manosphere adjacent guys who have a very misogynistic and or racist point of view. They voted for Trump because they don’t think women are equal to men. They view strength has being aggressive, selfish, and physically imposing. Sort of like the Incredible Hulk. Big and strong, but with the emotional and intellectual depth of a four-year-old.
What the American voter has demonstrated in the past several election cycles is that they get tired pretty quickly with a current administration and want something new, even if that administration has achieved a lot of good things. Obama's second term is an outlier. So a vice president, who doesn't distance himself or herself from the current administration, is going to have a hard time getting elected. But I think it's more an indictment of the voter than the campaign strategists. The American voter is impatient and fickle. They don't have to fall in love with the person they vote for; they need to understand the bigger picture. If Kamala Harris didn't give them everything they wanted, all they had to do was look at the alternative. The American voter needs to grow up.
it’s up to the election campaign to convince voters. yeah voters are dumb and their attention spans are minuscule but the consultants aught to know that going in. they are paid millions and they have no clue how to read modern american politics and voters. they have higher education. most voter don’t because it’s purposefully cost prohibitive to keep them dumb so in that sense it’s not really their faults. although i agree i think so many people are dumb dumbs
Incumbents LOSING is the outlier not Obama's second term, which was the third consecutive and 4th of 5 incumbent presidential victories. Trump also improved on both of his previous performances in winning his delayed second term, which doesn't really support your claim that people historically or currently get sick of stale faces.
I don't understand all these perceived problems being brought up by pundits. All these problems didn't matter to me. I recognized that trump presented a clear and immediate threat to us. I feel like people expected too much too soon. I was willing to trade getting rid of our immediate threat first, vote for Kamala, instead of expecting Kamala to solve four, five, six or more things at once. As far as I was concerned everything else was just noise, especially considering trump would do far worse at everything people were concerned about.
@@Walter-Anderson What problems do we solve with the current situation? Considering it is A or B - no C available -- what problem are we solving? I can understand "playing politics" about whether the price of eggs is tolerable for the working class, but based on his (clearly communicated) policies I don't see Trump solving eggs either. If he does I'll apologize but for now I can't justify his plan for the economy against his criminal record
@Walter-Anderson I acknowledged that and specifically said he was the IMMEDIATE threat, as in the biggest most dangerous threat to be handled FIRST. There is no magic wand to make all the problems disappear at once and as far as I'm concerned trump is a disaster when it comes to problem solving.
Unfortunately, most people only think in the very micro. What happens to them daily and nothing else. They don't equivocate local politics with those local issues, so it all gets heaped onto national candidates. Kamala got saddled with a bunch of things Trump didn't, and Trump was treated almost like a first-time runner because his track record and why he got fired in the first place was not a problem to regular people. When you are thinking big picture, don't make the mistake of thinking everyone is. They will sell out their existence in 20 years if it means possibly having todays issues fixed. It is their right, but with politics, now we all have to find out where this is going to take us thanks to them.
Emma, just because Gaza is so important to you, you need to stop assuming it's as important tp everyone else. Being honest. I don't give a sh*t about Gaza when I'm going food shopping.
While true, not so for millions of youth/pro-Gaza people who were repeatedly ignored by 1st Biden, then Harris campaign and adding insult to their injury, witnesses Harris having real excitement courting reichwing politicians instead. I see their point. This was a huge group, covering 3 very important swing states. Some of these ppl have relatives in the middle east and Palestine, so their viewpoint is valid. They wanted to make a statement of their resentment but this was the worst possible time to do such a risky, stupid thing.
Finally someone said it. There’s no evidence Gaza cost Harris the election, especially considering Trump is worse on the issue. Most Americans don’t care about Gaza, or side with Israel. Sad but true
Yea, but guess what? Those that are on the right think $0 should be given to foreign nations, including natural disasters. So yes, not Gaza by name, but dollars definitely mattered
@@andreah6379 - How do you explain the other 4 swing states where Gaza wasn't as important, and she still got crushed? Imagine thinking that staying home to protest vote Gaza, and therefore getting Trump elected is going to help Gaza. Cognitive dissonance coupled with self importance. The voters didn't truly care about Gaza. They just wanted to feel important.
I'd like to add that the campaigning with Liz Cheney also wasted a lot of time in a campaign that had not a second to lose.
they did because that's what Dem leaders are. neolibs and neocons have more in common than what people want.
Nah she actually stood against Trump so I don’t think she hurt at all coming from a normal democrat maybe the far far leftists maybe but not regular democrats
Cheney is a pragmatist and a center-right Repub like her daddy
Bush was a mixed bag like Clinton, Obama, JFK, Carter, Nixon, Ford, etc.
or TR, FDR, Wilson, and Adali Stevenson.
In 1972, McGovern lost 49 states for being a "hippy dove," but today would be a centrist.
I don't care about her fucking loyalty Stephanie. Your job is to win.
But the guardrails, norms, loyalty, blah blah blah!!!!!
Maybe Biden and his people were that scary and intimidating.
Yes, Cutter said Harris didn't want to distance from Biden, so they lost.
The fact she received any votes at all by trotting out Liz Chaney was amazing. Especially when she only had empty platitudes on her own.
She was burdened by what had been.
The Obama people without Obama are like the Chicago Bulls without Michael Jordan.
Yes!
So you’re saying it’s over 😂
Obama should have lost in 2012 had the GOP not trotted out the slimiest of slimy establishment hacks.
Obama wasnt even close to GOAT status like Jordan.
Maybe Pippen...
More like Pippens bench guy.
And I'm being kind.
@@artigraphmultimedia1489 I'm not an Obama supporter but he won Indiana in 08
No lessons will be learned by these consultants. Even if they have learned them, they won't listen to them. The only way forward for Democrats is for the party to clean house.
And go FDR progressive. I think Joe was thinking that way but just so mired in capitalism.
They're attached to white supremacy, and therefore billiomaires, like most of the Democratic Party.
7 million minorities, mostly women, almost all Democrats, didn't vote at all this time, which would have put Kamala ahead 3 times over.
These guys, all of them on that campaign? "Find more white moderates next time, do the same thing we did that lost, get those moderates!!!"
It's not even about specific racial policies, they just don't even count the minorities that aren't voting like the majority of white people. They can't grasp that minorities can just choose to not vote.
@@kimwarton4894So mired in AIPAC money. The old goat will be forever known as genocidal Joe. He deserves it.
Arrogance has become Dem party leaders trademark now.
@@kimwarton4894And way too much traditional politics!
Joe doesn't act "outside the box."
Today's America, with our exploding inequality, demands a revoultionary mindset in a leader.
That's NOT Joe.
these people are failures
We went full Cobain this year. Evil Gen X joke? True?
But we can recover unlike 😢
People like these two in the video are why Trump won.
@@sirphineasluciusambercromb9114Fully in Bloom? Or Negative Creep?
Say it loud, say it often and don't let these corporate creeps off the hook.
No more Republicans in the Democratic party. Simple as pie 🥧
It's more about "no more careerists". These people wanted to keep their jobs over stopping an existential threat. That's unforgivable.
Everyone is going after the "other". People remember, we are all Americans. NO MORE PARTIES.
Manchin and Sinema were a disaster!!!
@@MrPhotodoc There's nothing wrong with ''parties'' as long as the people within them at all levels are able to keep their personal egos and ambitions in check and act for the greater good and not just for the ME.
Any organization, company or country of any reasonable size runs far better with a structured management team over any group of individuals all wanting the Leaders role.
The Tesla idea might've come from a small group of pre ZZXelon Musk individuals but the 'end product' certainly didn't come directly from the same hands Mr.
@@sinetteiversen9978 Haha ... Yeah but Not for 'their' own personal wealth accounts, I'm bigly sure of that outcome.
At least the Sinema slapper learnt how to do a 'thumbs down' signal, it might come in handy when she's told some home-truths in any future public outings she has.
As much as I prioritize Gaza I think the main negative of her campaign was trying to reinforce the losing brand of pro establishment, not the failure to condemn the genocide which had a smaller impact.
Nope. In the real world it was a fear & easily created & manipulated hate of whatever they believe "Woke" to be. In some edge cases, they are right.
Harris did not lose because of being a her or of color. In the real, big boy & girl world, not the internet/social media, this is reality.
I think Gaza had a huge effect on the young people, along with the Arab/Americans. Many young people just couldn’t stomach the way she ignored the protesters, many of them were Jewish. They treated disgracefully at her convention. The Jewish guy’s banner was forcibly torn from his hands and he was manhandled out of the event. It was quite plain to see he was an Orthodox Jew. He gave an interview to Al Jazeera, he was so upset.
I think it had a much bigger impact than is measurable, and from both ends. Not only did it cause both people to vote third party, sit out but it also caused low information voters to vote for trump and confirmed his anti war message. You and I know that message is not true but many people don't.
@@BrendaHeeligan This pretends like Trump was the better answer, though.
@@AlphaCentComnot really. If people stayed home they probably didn’t believe either side would offer change
I’m so glad I can watch this analysis. I tried watching the whole interview and it was the longest batch of MBA-driven consultant non-answers I’ve heard since I got laid off from my bullshit consulting job in finance lol. 😵💫
I finally made it through, but only because someone told me I should watch it, that it would be informative, lol.
I managed to sit through the whole 95-minute podcast. The more I heard, the less I learned.
I am with you here. I was shocked when she started campaigning with Liz Cheney. At least 2-3 people I know stayed home after that. It was just a terrible move by her. I agree, Gaza also kept so many young people away. She gave this election away...also people who say she was too left are crazy. Where was she left? On what topic?
SHE wasn't too far left but many(minority but LOUD) of her supporters were and had been, driving friends, family, & coworkers to associate democrats with these crazy far left ideas.
The right then ran with it & beat us over the head w/it & we let them. So, yah. It was a big reason.
Agreed! But I wasn't shocked when Harris started campaigning w/Liz(ard people) Cheney.
At the very start of her campaign, Harris & Walz took swings at complaining about inequality and greed from the uber rich.
Immediately, Harris got a call from her own bro-in-law, a big time corporate attorney for Uber who basically told his sis-in-law to STFU about bashing rich ppl.
From that moment on, Harris & Walz changed their messaging.
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@@jgb_fan np. It's that she could never speak to her policies. I still genuinely don't know where she is among any non popular issues. She basically was trump lite
Thanks Sam and Emma. It's very demoralising to see some of the supposed left now blaming the left wing activists for the loss and some even joining Trump. Thank you Sam for remaining consistent in your politics.
This election wasn’t about policy or who ran a better campaign. Americans chose racism and sexism over democracy and that’s it. MAGA symbolizes “taking the country back” from the minorities that have been taking over. That’s why their platform been about nothing but Deportation, anti-Diversity, and anti “wokeness”
Should never work in politics again
beyond just the Cheneys, in the last week before the election, I remember seeing a lot of blue maga libs calling for George W Bush to come out in support of Kamala. comments like “Bush is a coward if he doesn’t endorse her…”
I was like “noo, wtf are you guys doing?? please stop it, that’s a TERRIBLE idea!”
All that taught me was that W was a fraud since when he pretended to care about America like his successor, rump, it was a total lie. But then again that's what I expected of him. But anyway, we know that it's always about the big $$$. If people are browbeat enough into believing republican propaganda, which is always about money including everything else, they will throw the Democrats out, not the bums, aka republicans, but instead the Democrats.
Dismantle Trickle-down. Make the primary fiduciary responsibility of corporations be to the workers first!
Only a strong-willed president backed by huge masses of Americans can get the job done: That job is to raise taxes on the wealthiest businesses and individuals.
When you do that, it forces the business owner(s) to want to invest in their business & workers.
End stock buybacks which is causing Stock Market to appear more valuable as a meter of America's wealth--which it isn't, it's over-valued and overinflated.
@@andreah6379 Yeap, alas the same rich people own both parties, so none of the necessary changes will ever happen :( Stuff like Germany's third of publicly listed boards need to be voted from/by the work force of the company.
@@nevyn_karres great idea
Sadly I don't see this happening anytime soon
You spelt either customers or shareholders wrong. I’m too dumb to know which
They keep saying things are going well for the average american and its just not true. Thats why they lost.
Who says that? All of them?
The far left progressives is why yall lost
When people see their conditions worsen and the ruling party says "nothing will change", what else would you expect to happen?
@@crimsonjedi then just be a republican. If Liz Cheney endorsed, Republican speeches, republican tax cuts, and republican foreign policy didn't work. Republicans still voted for trump, while the left plugged their nose and voted. She could've won by saying real policies like universal health care for kids. Let republicans say no to health care for kids.
Progressives weren't running the campaign. The Democrats ran a centrist campaign of little policy substance. Mark Cuban and Liz Cheney were more visible surrogates than Sanders, Warren, or any member of the Progressive Caucus.
Harris could have won, but she didn't have the balls to fight the establishment and make herslef the voice of change.
relying on a cop to fight the establishment was your first mistake lol
She mistakenly thought the big billionaires she had supporting her were higher priority than having the masses of Americans support her.
She measured her popukarity by the numbers in her rallies and her ppl refused to believe the polls were even right, that they were wrong before, true, but that this time, RW pollsters must be screwing with the numbers.
It was a common myth repeated ad nauseum by so many leftwing "progressive" type show hosts, even on FSTV like Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann and Randi Rhodes.
Stephanie & Randi are more pro-corporate but they all repeated the BS myth instead of looking into the reality of their own delusion.
True dat.
Buddy she is the establishment. She never planned on rocking the boat because she is manning the boat.
As soon as I saw Hillary, Cheneys, and the tone of the campaign went from joy to" talking about Trump" at every rally I knew she was going to lose. Haven't the Dems learned from Trump? If she had let the Palestinian women speak at the DNC OR every rally say I will do an immediate ceasefire!!
Saw the whole thing and left a scathing comment after, the comment section on the video is amazing tho, no one is buying what they are selling
Edit: Holy shit props for PSA, they just uploaded a post mortem with Hasan. I give them credit for giving him the same space as they gave ploufe
They're trying to give all sides a chance to speak, but the problem is they offered no pushback for their consultant buddies.
Same.
@@LinkRocks 💯
Wow, a scathing comment! That will definitely rattle the cages! You’re really doing Gods work.
Get your head out of your ass; you’re far more useless than these consultants
It kind of makes one wonder though, why are people so savvy as to not buy what Democrats are selling, but then they fall head over heals for the guy and the party who is demonstrably worse by far than Democrats could ever hope to be, on those exact issues that they claim to be good at. Yes makes one wonder where people get the impression that republicans have any interest in solving problems for Americans after 4-6 decades of doing the opposite, especially in the last 2 and 1/2 decades.
"We can't please everybody" talking like she just put out an album or something. This is why they lost
they only had to please half!
No, it's people like these two is why you lost. TRUMP BABY WHOOOOO!
@@hangukhiphop They only had to please 34%!!! But 35% stayed home...
You actually CAN ease everyone. It's not hard. Bernie Sanders does it literally ALL THE TIME.
@@crimsonjediempty bank accounts for everyone woooooo.
It is insane that these people get hired for any job. "We would have to say she would have done things differently if we wanted to please anyone". Exactly you fools! you knew what you needed to do but were too cowardly to do it!
Which was what? Easy to armchair quarterback, I bet before the election you were predicting a swing state sweep like Emma.
and if you believe like her that Gaza really hurt Dems, you’re living in lala land.
So you have any idea what David Pluff was paid for his 3 months of work, apparently over 10 million
What a great gig
Should have been based on results.
@@FDR_progressive_liberal no win no fee
Source?
Their excuse is basically "We wouldn't have been able to make all of our base happy, so we decided to make none of them happy. Also, trying is hard."
Maybe they should find easier jobs then?
Base? Since when have Democrats tried that strategy after the nomination? Never.
Didn't these bozos see Liz's 16% approval rating 😂😂😂
As I said many times before.The issue of Gaza was like a trial balloon to see if the Democratic party was going to act on behalf of the donors i.e. A.I.P.A.C. or the average American voter.Biden and the Democrats clearly shown their complete allegiance to Zionism and thus to their donors over the average American voter !
We were seeing obvious signs of Dem leadership propping up corporate Dems, AIPAC, when Cori Bush lost her reelection, & when Jamaal Bowman lost his reelection and NOBODY within the party was mentioning their lost elections--at all!
I heard from Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! not anywhere on corporate news channels that Hillary Clinton was aligning with reichwing uber rich to get rid of the loudest progressives that were pro-Gaza & doing this via a Pac funding AIPAC candidates.
Leftwing shows from Stephanie Miller to Thom Hartmann to Randi Rhodes NEVER mentioned how sad their lost elections were. None of these so-called "progressive" hosts said one word about Bush or Bowman losing to AIPAC backed Democrats.
Not one word. And of course, they protected Hillary's name & kept quiet.
This is suppose to be true progressive media, FSTV, and even these show hosts cover for corporate Democrats, all the time!
The average American voter does not give a flying f+ck about Gaza! What are you even talking about? Even among the Democrats base this is a none issue. You have to move to the left before it becomes an topic of interest! If you continue to close your eyes only disappointment awaits you!
If only even remotely accurate, it's most aggregiiusly tteasonous.
The US needs a new party. The Democrats are pointless.
@@MagadouchePls, your whole country is owned by Israel.
What I'm hearing is, there should have been a Democratic primary two years ago.
Too bad Biden screwed us all
Sam I love you man. Keep on the populist message. Don’t tell people to settle!
I remember after 2012 the discussion was about how much more advanced Obama’s digital operation was compared to Romney’s.
How times have changed.
He still lost 9 million votes from his 08 election. The centrist move has been poor since 2000 now.
No, Emma, she is not a leader... she followed her staffers...they didn't want to win
No. They wanted to win. They were too deep into being pro-rich ppl,pro-corporate Democrats that progressive messaging was never going to be heard.
Cutter literally said the OPPOSITE. They followed HER refusal to distance from Biden. She didn't want to do it.
So did you attend any of the rallies? Like even one? Or is your activism on social media?
@@KristaErricksonyou think attending a rally is "activism"?????
@KristaErrickson yes I followed her, she was not a good pick from the start...
The podcast was like this: "We did well, we just didn't do well enough." Oh.
PLEASE. SOMEBODY. PLEASE!!! GIVE. SAM. A. PAUSE. BUTTON.
Lol so true 😂😅😅😅
How do we give the impression of being different without having to commit to the idea of doing anything differently… at all. Brilliant strategy.
You lost. You picked the wrong strategy. And Bernie is right, as usual.
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Eh, Bernie said some transphobic shit that made me think he doesn’t have the answers either. Totally failed to capitalize on the movement he started.
@@manderly33😂🤦🏿♂️
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Talking truths . Thanks you guys . No shit . ❤
Holy s^t, I did NOT expect Emma to comment to Sam about running with this story right before Thanksgiving and her saying she hopes he's happy, then for him to say, "I guess I am," and then the video stops. I'm dying over here. That was awesome.
"They have learnt nothing, and forgotten nothing." Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand
They rather lose toeing the line than win through the will of people. They're not dumb, they just have different interests.
Its disgusting these staffers probably have very comfortable incomes and they get to fail upwards.
I've worked with these types on political projects: $200/hr on the low end.
David Plouff made $10,000,000 this election
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Unreal....
They are so painfully out of touch
Since Bill Clinton, that's been true. Neoliberalism has been losing Dem party registrations year after year after year.
But party leaders refuse to see the neon flashing red flags. For decades now.
Seemed like she did better flame throwing before they brought in Obama leftovers like Plouffe.
Bruh, she literally had all the momentum until after she whooped Trump in the debate. Immediately starts more inclusive language and grabbed the Cheneys. Trying to run a 2008 campaign in 2024. They should have died on the hill of "They are weird" and slinging mud at Trump the same way he did them.
@@balthorpayne yep.
Thank you for finally saying it. If she had differentiated herself on the campaign and Biden's people had leaked, that would've HELPED her.
The Biden Admin isn't exactly popular. It's so obvious that was exactly what she needed
People who didn't vote or voted for a candidate with no policies that didn't stand a chance will, like everyone, feel the consequences of their decision.
You’re talking about Harris, right?
That doesn't mean they'll attribute it to the correct cause
Right. That's painfully basic. Trump voters will also feel the consequences and will likely feel quite differently about them than Stein voters, abstainers, etc. And?
This is the Democratic way. Rahn Emanuel?!? Obama administration, gets elected mayor of Chicago, forced to resign from said position for covering up the murder of a black teenager by his police force, surely this guy’s career is over right?!? No, no we got a spot for him. Like, what in the actual fuck are we doing here???
It's exactly like a funny ep of Veep except the joke is on the American people.
Staying home helped the people in Gaza how? Nothing else mattered. Not health care or women's rights or the Supreme Court or income inequality. None of that matters and Gaza wasn't going to change one way or the other. BUT by all means stay home and elect Trump to help those in Gaza. OK
I think being a cop is the only other profession where you can be a complete failure and still keep your job
And RUclips political commentator.
Fitting for harris
teacher
Cop, military officer, teacher, lawyer, doctor, politician, the list goes on. 🤷🏿
@@dan8910100 na
Her biggest mistake was to run. Their mistake was everything. 😂
To be honest I think it was her comment saying that she wouldn't be doing anything different than Joe Biden. That was a complete turn off. So when she added Cheney it was a reminder that she had voted against our interest & 95% for Trump's.
They were trying to tell a story and give an impression...that's the problem! She looked exactly like someone throwing up a facade instead of being authentic.
I think these people logic boils down
"sure im a political opportunist, so surely the majority of people are?"
There is historical precedent for what Harris needed to do. Thomas Jefferson was Sec. of State under Washington alongside VP John Adams. They were very good friends, but in 1796 they ran against each other, and Adam was elected President and Jefferson VP. Adams offered Jefferson a sort of Power-Sharing agreement, but Jefferson said know. He turned his back on his friend John Adams, because he believed that Adams' politics, including eventually his Alien Enemies Acts and Sedition Acts (which Trump's campaign referenced as an excuse to deport people, incidentally), were detrimental to the country. Jefferson walked away from Adams and worked to sabotage everything Adams did because he put nation ahead of his friendship with Adams.
Now, don't get me wrong, Jefferson had many of his own problems, but his vision for the country was clear, and he considered that vision more important than his friendships with Adams, or some idea of loyalty to a man. He was loyal to his country.
That is what Harris was not. Her campaign of Biden staffers were loyal to Biden, to their paychecks and their personal reputations. Ironically, Republicans are the same way these days, with this obsequious subservience to Trump, but that is because Trump is their "useful idiot" for implementing their Project 2025 white Christian nationalist agenda. If they could get rid of Trump, the way Harris had the chance to get rid of Biden, they would do it in an instant and find the NEXT "useful idiot."
Speaking of obsequious, Bill Ackman was especially in fellating mode on twitter yesterday, praising Trump's threats against Canada and Mexico as brilliant negotiating strategies... Ackman's vulture capital wealth needs to go. Never forget that Richard Gere's character in Pretty Woman was considered terrible when he was doing the things that people like Ackman and Paul Singer and Mitt Romney's Bain Capital do routinely these days...
I don't get it. If he was truly offered power sharing why wouldn't he work within the system
I do my Thanksgiving drinking the night before, so I'm actually hungry when it comes time to eat.
As an older man in middle America, Israel/Gaza was the bottom of the list of what voters I spoke to cared about. In my perspective the election came down to young ppl. The GOP pivoted from trying to stop young ppl from voting to harnessing the red pill young male vote. Sadly I feel misogyny won the election.
@@BartSandel a lot of young people care about Gaza hence college protests. Fortunately democrats spent most of the year sending cops to beat up kids and calling them antisemitic. Explains why the turnout for Dems was low.
It wouldn't have mattered what the issues were. That's because republicans always choose those issues, the media follows suit, Democrats follow suit. Kamala is far far better in every measurable way, even right wing issues, but republican lies and the media who promote those lies won over any other consideration. If Kamala and Biden had done the polar opposite we would have heard the same exact thing from republicans/media. Would the voters have sat up and noticed if Democrats pulled out all of the stops instead of merely being far far far better than republicans? I don't know, I used to say they should and find out, and the voters, some of them anyway, would notice, even without the media's approval. But now knowing how little the truth affected this election, I'm not so sure. The "brocasters" might have still overwhelmed the truth even if they had.
Just remember even amongst people who vote many of them barely have a clue what's going on, and I mean that absolutely literally. They either are entirely unaware or choose to not believe it because they don't like the answer that either choice was going to be continued pain, but they failed to recognize who would bring excess pain vs the other.
Yep. I'm always shocked by how clueless many reasonably bright, upper-middle class voters are. They're not interested in politics so they ignore it until they vote, and they don't know a damn thing, and they don't know that they don't know a damn thing.
Yep, we get it..... everybody's stupid except you... so don't forget to keep telling them that, for that'll surely make them come around to your point of view...
Mike was right. These people belong in prison.
hey but emma thinks harris lost because of men
I don’t know how hard it would have been just to say, “As a new Administration, we’re going to re-evaluate all policies and determine where improvements can be made.”
To me, it's really hard to believe that they win on that show and just so openly self-reported. It's really staggering to me that they're all not just hiding but that they're out there openly just taking credit for their vast losses.
That’s how out of touch and not self aware they are, it’s truly incredible
Gaga? What makes you think that she was ever, or could ever, have a different stance to Biden? I was nothing. Did you???
This reminds me of someone explaining in an interview why they got fired from their last job.
Excellent discussion! Totally agree with Emma on this one.
One thing about it, Liz is toast now, IRRELEVANT
She definitely could have separated herself from Biden on Gaza. Then VP Hubert Humphrey faced the same situation in 1968 over Indochina trying to put distance from the White House without openly breaking from the administration of which he was still part. He kept trying and the White House kept cutting him down until he finally directly broke with LBJ's policy on the war. As a result, his position improved and he almost caught up Richard "secret plan to end the war" Nixon.
America is facing significant challenges as a nation, grappling with moral shortcomings. Corporate Democrats often prioritize the interests of influential lobbies, including pro-Israel groups, over broader progressive ideals. Vice President Harris, for instance, seemed cautious about confronting these lobbying pressures. Activist Kevin Boykin attributes much of the political failure to white women and Latino men, citing their role as key voting blocs that often act against their own broader interests.
In a choice between a Republican vs a Republican.....
And your party will keep paying them because they are so insulated within their echo chamber they will never leave. The big bad truth is scary!!!
That "I guess I am" at the end made laugh out loud
“the tools of empire are always invented to justify the crimes of empire”
The Democratic Party is irredeemable - it will not change! America's working-class needs, and deserves a New political party. I hope Bernie Sanders starts a NEW political party; if he does, I'm with Bernie until the end of the line.
I think it was on purpose cuz how can you be so consistently stupid?
What data or interviews brought them to those conclusions. Because remember a lot of people were also wondering if they had different polls, etc.
Leftwing pundits and show hosts all went by her rallies. They also pointed to 2022 "red wave," and said they knew pollsters were mostly RW rich funding them, so they had to be wrong.
I couldn't blame them exactly because on Dump's side, he was appearing as a joke, boring his crowds, leaving them stranded, many left early during his rallies so by these appearances, yes, Dump looked like he was losing and the polls were made up.
You know why she didn't differentiate herself??? Because she was NEVER 👏🏼 going 👏🏼to👏🏼 stop👏🏼 support👏🏼 for👏🏼 Israel👏🏼. Period.
Correct
And they know it.
Neither is Trump
@@haruhisuzumiya6650And? Trump has always stood with Israel. Harris stands with Israel, pretends maybe she doesn't stand with Israel, then continues to stand with Israel. 🤷🏿
Shouldn't one be "loyal" to the country first?
In a certain sense, but who is going to believe you when you're the leader of a corrupt political party that your loyalty is to the country
Its a good thing they didn’t have a year or she wouldn't have won a state.
Ha. 73+ million terrible, with best numbers wherever she campaigned personally - and the lowest margin separating Presidential candidates. All in 100 odd days 🤓
Lol "a state" 😆
@@MadfunkidsThats the point @42tribes was making. Her support was highest when hit Biden with the coup detat. Then the populous heard her speak. The longer she campaigned, the worse it was going to be.
Lol I read a meme somewhere, maybe Hasan: yo, maybe we did steal the last one?!
That’s a pretty stupid assessment given the final numbers
I don't think it's clear at all that supporting Gaza would have helped Harris. There are a lot of voters, particularly older ones, who are very pro-israel. It's very possible that you would have lost as many pro-israel votes (or even more) then you gained by going pro-gaza.
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@@ThinkerT pro Israel people voted mostly for Trump. Gaza people in my opinion stayed home, hence the turnout problem.
@@firefox1234ize Sounds great except the uncommitted movement endorsed Harris in the end and Trump will be worse.
@@manderly33 not everyone is convinced by that.🤷🏿♂️
@@firefox1234izeHarris won the majority of Jewish voters. 🤷🏿
Ok, good to know. Apparently it had nothing to do with in-home healthcare getting only 30 total seconds on tv.
Downplaying gaza is also asinine 🤦🏽♂️
U Guys are nutz...she was the worst candidate of the modern era. She cannot articulate any coherent thought. "Lets not be burdened by what has been": are you serious. She had ridiculous amounts of money and could have done anything. She cannot even handle incredibly friendly interviews. The media was completely in the bag for her the entire campaign. She was wrong on almost every issue. Was she going to close the border, was she going lay out any economic plan that was not drivel like opportunity economy, was she going to drill, she was afraid to support any real targeted effort toward workers; not hands outs, and did anyone anywhere in the world respect her? She was an empty suit candidate. As the truth comes out she never even really came close. The polls lied for her for weeks. It is amazing to me that so many pundits actually thought she even had a chance. The problem is she really was a far left candidate who believed what she said in 2019 in a center right country. Your focus on the middle east is low on the list of priorities for the campaign. What would the US do if Canada did to us what Hamas did to Israel. What we do to free the proportional equivalent of 50k hostages? What would have been the response of Jewish donors/voters? She lost the bulk of the country. The worst is that the democratic elites still cannot truly understand how "they/them and the us" add is absolutely pathetic....it will likely lead to a generational loss of influence.
Who the holy fuck knows or can explain what happened to those of us not in Trump's (inexplicable) thrall. We are stuck & fatherfucking trapped in the wrong reality. I can't breathe. When I was a little kid the movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" scared me in the same way this election did.
LOL
The problem is everyone else. Not Kamala. She was never a dogsht candidate to begin with.
October was a disaster because she had to do more interviews. Once she spoke it was game OVER.
Sorry I’m a bit late: totally agree: all I can add is it must have been incredibly “awkward” for PSA’s Dan. By that I mean The “Biden Rollover Campaign Team “ quite clearly had a second agenda based on protecting the “assumed” legacy of their former boss, they are just “dummies” but Plouffe, and his arrogance, his ignorance, his need to offload responsibility back on “the voters” he was paid to understand is disgraceful. As an international donor “I want my F’en Money back.
And who did PSA immediately “go to” in an attempt to regain some cred, it was your honorary nephew Sam , Huss , who handled himself brilliantly as he always does.
Goodonyas
Hasan was brilliant and probably saved PSA.
All they are saying is they had no new ideas at alll and if that’s the case then it’s good they lost
I am team Emma❤
“When loyalty to a ruler trumps loyalty to a cause, the people suffer.“
I don’t understand how these people even have jobs when it’s obvious that everyone in this show has more sense 🙁
Stephanie Cutter really talked a lot there. I can answer her whole list of reasons in two words: "You lost."
I have to mention this - you guys sit on your studio in NY talking with such authority yet you were also COMPLETELY wrong about the election. Emma predicted a landslide for Harris. I thought it was crazy at the time. If I was that wrong about something I would quit my job. You get to keep talking with authority and so do they. I haven’t seen you acknowledge how out of touch you guys were.
When you’re spineless your first instinct is to deflect.
absolute failures
Heard megan kelly talking about the top echelon of the lefties- mika and joe! My god!
Kamala the chameleon. “Medicare for all” in 2019 and “tough on the border” in 2024. Liberal voters nominated a geriatric and a snake.
The simultaneous "PAUSE IT!" was great!
And they still want more money.
"Rather lose then win the way you did."
Do you mean by convincing more people to vote for them?
The easiest response to that was she could have said she wouldn't have let the child tax credit expire and would reinstate it.
Hearing these people talk in circles is infuriating. They shouldn't be involved in any campaigns going forward.
I almost didn't vote for her, particularly because of Gaza. Since '16 I've been voting 3rd party because I'm done being Charlie Brown to the DCCC's Lucy. I can't stand corporate Dems. It was down to the wire, my mail-in ballot was filled in except for the top, up until I couldn't delay anymore. Finally it was hold my nose and vote - not 'for her', but - against the fascist.
Campaigning with Cheney was a huge mistake. Not pushing back against Netanyahu strongly enough was also a huge mistake, but I don’t think either one of these things really affected black voters. Over 90% of black women and about 75% of black men voted for Harris. There’s a small percentage of non-white Manosphere adjacent guys who have a very misogynistic and or racist point of view. They voted for Trump because they don’t think women are equal to men. They view strength has being aggressive, selfish, and physically imposing. Sort of like the Incredible Hulk. Big and strong, but with the emotional and intellectual depth of a four-year-old.
What the American voter has demonstrated in the past several election cycles is that they get tired pretty quickly with a current administration and want something new, even if that administration has achieved a lot of good things. Obama's second term is an outlier. So a vice president, who doesn't distance himself or herself from the current administration, is going to have a hard time getting elected. But I think it's more an indictment of the voter than the campaign strategists. The American voter is impatient and fickle. They don't have to fall in love with the person they vote for; they need to understand the bigger picture. If Kamala Harris didn't give them everything they wanted, all they had to do was look at the alternative. The American voter needs to grow up.
it’s up to the election campaign to convince voters. yeah voters are dumb and their attention spans are minuscule but the consultants aught to know that going in. they are paid millions and they have no clue how to read modern american politics and voters. they have higher education. most voter don’t because it’s purposefully cost prohibitive to keep them dumb so in that sense it’s not really their faults. although i agree i think so many people are dumb dumbs
It's both. But yes I agree with the person above it's literally their job to convince voters
Incumbents LOSING is the outlier not Obama's second term, which was the third consecutive and 4th of 5 incumbent presidential victories. Trump also improved on both of his previous performances in winning his delayed second term, which doesn't really support your claim that people historically or currently get sick of stale faces.
I don't understand all these perceived problems being brought up by pundits. All these problems didn't matter to me. I recognized that trump presented a clear and immediate threat to us. I feel like people expected too much too soon. I was willing to trade getting rid of our immediate threat first, vote for Kamala, instead of expecting Kamala to solve four, five, six or more things at once. As far as I was concerned everything else was just noise, especially considering trump would do far worse at everything people were concerned about.
TRUMPS DADDY NOW
I got news for you: all those problems that didn't matter to you, *mattered a great deal* to others.
@@Walter-Anderson What problems do we solve with the current situation? Considering it is A or B - no C available -- what problem are we solving? I can understand "playing politics" about whether the price of eggs is tolerable for the working class, but based on his (clearly communicated) policies I don't see Trump solving eggs either. If he does I'll apologize but for now I can't justify his plan for the economy against his criminal record
@Walter-Anderson I acknowledged that and specifically said he was the IMMEDIATE threat, as in the biggest most dangerous threat to be handled FIRST. There is no magic wand to make all the problems disappear at once and as far as I'm concerned trump is a disaster when it comes to problem solving.
Unfortunately, most people only think in the very micro. What happens to them daily and nothing else. They don't equivocate local politics with those local issues, so it all gets heaped onto national candidates. Kamala got saddled with a bunch of things Trump didn't, and Trump was treated almost like a first-time runner because his track record and why he got fired in the first place was not a problem to regular people. When you are thinking big picture, don't make the mistake of thinking everyone is. They will sell out their existence in 20 years if it means possibly having todays issues fixed. It is their right, but with politics, now we all have to find out where this is going to take us thanks to them.
Hey Emma, when are you doing an OF 🔥❤🥃 ⁉️
I knew Humphrey was gonna be brought up. (Coming from MN )
Emma, just because Gaza is so important to you, you need to stop assuming it's as important tp everyone else.
Being honest. I don't give a sh*t about Gaza when I'm going food shopping.
While true, not so for millions of youth/pro-Gaza people who were repeatedly ignored by 1st Biden, then Harris campaign and adding insult to their injury, witnesses Harris having real excitement courting reichwing politicians instead.
I see their point.
This was a huge group, covering 3 very important swing states. Some of these ppl have relatives in the middle east and Palestine, so their viewpoint is valid.
They wanted to make a statement of their resentment but this was the worst possible time to do such a risky, stupid thing.
Finally someone said it. There’s no evidence Gaza cost Harris the election, especially considering Trump is worse on the issue.
Most Americans don’t care about Gaza, or side with Israel. Sad but true
Yea, but guess what? Those that are on the right think $0 should be given to foreign nations, including natural disasters. So yes, not Gaza by name, but dollars definitely mattered
@@andreah6379 - How do you explain the other 4 swing states where Gaza wasn't as important, and she still got crushed? Imagine thinking that staying home to protest vote Gaza, and therefore getting Trump elected is going to help Gaza.
Cognitive dissonance coupled with self importance. The voters didn't truly care about Gaza. They just wanted to feel important.