4 Pre-War Fallout Companies that were actually good

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
  • Nearly every corporation in the universe of Fallout was downright evil. Whether they performed human experimentation, had cruel and inhumane policies, or were outright lying to their customers, many companies in Fallout had little care for morals and ethics. But were there any 'good' companies? Well, the answer is yes. Today, I go over four Fallout companies that weren't that bad.
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:54 Bar Harbor's Local Pop Company
    2:39 Boston's Toy Makers
    5:30 Friendly Bowling Alley
    7:52 Miners For The People
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  • @mackenziemoore5088
    @mackenziemoore5088 Год назад +3517

    The irony is that after the war, the Hornwrights are almost all dead, but the Excavator Power Armor lives on in the use of many survivors who love it.

    • @nekoali2
      @nekoali2 Год назад +261

      Rushed into full production by the 76s, each one lovingly hand crafted.

    • @girf4233
      @girf4233 Год назад +112

      I mean Penelope still lives. Wouldn't for long if it wasn't for that damned essential tag..

    • @themather1
      @themather1 Год назад +132

      @@girf4233 Penny opposed the rest of her family though, and was set to marry Bryce Garrahan. Her child, which she presumably had with Bryce, also still lives in a Vault she knowingly took on massive radiation to save.

    • @vengeance160
      @vengeance160 Год назад +101

      One of my favorite Bethesda's new designs, much better than retconning the whole lore and forcefully implementing T-60 or another "newer" military power armor. I really hope Bethesda will stop adding new military PA's, and instead will add police special forces versions, firefighter's PA or even civilian models.

    • @mackenziemoore5088
      @mackenziemoore5088 Год назад +44

      @@vengeance160 I agree. T-60 was awkwardly implemented. The T-65 actually makes sense, in context. Much more so than the T-60. Hell, the prototype T-51 helmet you get from Grafton Steel makes more sense lol
      I'm definitely looking forward to the Union Power Armor though

  • @ijneb1248
    @ijneb1248 Год назад +2533

    You should also add that you actually meet the CEO of wilson atomotoys and he's just a sweet old man fixing up old giddyup buttercups all day

    • @insomniagobrrr5542
      @insomniagobrrr5542 Год назад +66

      Where is he?

    • @johnbeniedictsantos4763
      @johnbeniedictsantos4763 Год назад +307

      @@insomniagobrrr5542 the slog, the ghoul settlement

    • @thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800
      @thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800 Год назад +78

      Was Arlen really the CEO?

    • @napatora
      @napatora Год назад +107

      @@thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800 no george wilson was

    • @payodomingo6789
      @payodomingo6789 Год назад +239

      the saddest part he never got to see his daugter he worked himself to the bone to give children a smile i bauled my eyes out for three hours when he/i heard that tape where ever he is now i hope he,s still giving the wasteland children a smile and know what childhood is

  • @sebs-shenanigans
    @sebs-shenanigans Год назад +926

    I can't help but imagine the big lad behind Vim! Pop just sitting in his chair, smoking a cigar with a side of brandy, gazing at the stars of death descending onto the American soil and thinking:
    "Well, the bombs are dropping, the world is ending, but those Nuka Cola fucks still couldn't rip my beloved company for my grasp, so its all right for me!

    • @alexanderortega7559
      @alexanderortega7559 Год назад +17

      Yea ikr

    • @ellisducharme7915
      @ellisducharme7915 Год назад +120

      This is essentially a true story with an untrue happy ending. The real company is called Moxie, and they are the official soft drink of Maine. They outsold Coca Cola throughout Maine historically and resisted their offers to buy, but in the end did end up caving and selling the company to Coca Cola in the last few years. When Far Harbor was released, Moxie was still successfully fighting though. As a Mainer myself, seeing it play out the way it did in the game was such a kick-ass moment 😂

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 3 месяца назад +12

      Damn. RIP. ​@@ellisducharme7915

    • @4ardW0rKINGbarn1CAL
      @4ardW0rKINGbarn1CAL 2 месяца назад +1

      Nice

    • @seanfine3463
      @seanfine3463 Месяц назад

      Independently owned and operated since 1931!

  • @liluziintrovert
    @liluziintrovert Год назад +620

    The Garrahan situation is so funny to me, because it was 3 miners against a fleet of robots and the miners almost won but people were still like “hmmm the robots are better”

    • @f.f.657
      @f.f.657 Год назад +43

      maybe the fleet of robots was still cheaper longterm than the 3 miners salary

    • @Sgt.chickens
      @Sgt.chickens Год назад +14

      Counterpoint. Constuction protectrons look SICK

    • @starbeast1.090
      @starbeast1.090 Год назад +79

      @@f.f.657 there is no way that 3 dudes in power armour is more expensive than a entire fleet of autominer robots

    • @f.f.657
      @f.f.657 Год назад +8

      @@starbeast1.090 i said longterm dude
      their salary food etc in 3 years compared to probably almost no cost at all for the robots

    • @starbeast1.090
      @starbeast1.090 Год назад +46

      @@f.f.657 the autominers are just altered protectrons they break easily and require constant maintenance to keep running and they are slow as heck

  • @thesenate2656
    @thesenate2656 Год назад +1587

    I remember explaining to my friend that Fallout had an atompunk Coca Cola which was British Empire-ing every other beverage company in existence and using radioactive isotopes in one of its flavors. She started playing New Vegas 4 days later.

    • @drydoidoi1593
      @drydoidoi1593 Год назад +88

      New Vegas is the best game, imo. Then again, I like 76, so take this with a grain of salt

    • @current3109
      @current3109 Год назад +58

      New Vegas is the best fallout game yet

    • @erinfinn2273
      @erinfinn2273 Год назад +82

      @@drydoidoi1593 You will not find much arguement against liking New Vegas. Out of all the games, it's the most consistently beloved.

    • @cavemangaeming4207
      @cavemangaeming4207 Год назад +85

      @@current3109 new vegas was a banger but its overrated as fuck

    • @thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800
      @thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800 Год назад +47

      @@cavemangaeming4207 This, especially the entire dance-around to getting the game to actually WORK.

  • @aita_sageblood3965
    @aita_sageblood3965 Год назад +735

    “4 Pre-War Fallout Companies that were actually good”
    *Dr.Möbius Voice* NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE!

    • @eliassaari2454
      @eliassaari2454 Год назад +49

      Nothing is unpossible with SCIENCE!

    • @aita_sageblood3965
      @aita_sageblood3965 Год назад +47

      @@eliassaari2454 Don’t forget Mentats! …yummy, yummy mentats 👁👄👁
      …say, what was I talking about again?

    • @istoleyunomilesbigmac
      @istoleyunomilesbigmac Год назад +22

      dr morbius

    • @normanmai7865
      @normanmai7865 Год назад +36

      @@istoleyunomilesbigmac its robo-scorpion' time

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions Год назад +17

      He had a very good raisin for saying so, he just can't remember what it was.

  • @Lux-fe6fd
    @Lux-fe6fd Год назад +679

    Couple bits on Garrahan:
    1. They were planning to cheat in the competition with the pylons we now use for the Imposter, but they decided not to because of how they electrocute people.
    2. They’re responsible for the mining suits of the mole miners in Appalachia, simply because we know Hornwright and AMS didn’t have human employees. While we don’t know if there was a problem with the suits themselves that lead to their mutation, we can’t rule that out when the ghost people (who are very similar in their origin) were caused by such an issue.

    • @mcpossum
      @mcpossum Год назад +46

      Also with the theory they were children working in the mines. Since most Mole Miners can be found with toys on them. They can be heard yelling "Mother". This could be for the Mother Load. Or, just a scared child yelling for their mother.

    • @mykeh3155
      @mykeh3155 Год назад +43

      Hornwright did have human employees, they got rid of many of them in such inhumane ways that they were essentially left to rot, we know this because many of the locations that mole miners reside are in hornwright owned sites and that they had no issue closing mines with people still inside of them, there is also a lot of stuff that hints to their "accidents" being very intentional, very serious accidents that never seemed to happen when autominers were involved. It's also likely that many miners were slaves, so they would most definitely be off the books.

    • @Lux-fe6fd
      @Lux-fe6fd Год назад +12

      @@mykeh3155 Just because the sites were owned pre-war by Hornwright doesn’t mean the mole miners couldn’t have moved in post-war. That’s not sufficient evidence.
      And yes, Hornwright did have human employees but they fired all of the miners.
      Which mine are you referring to where people were locked inside? If it’s the ones used during lode baring, that happened because of the nukes. If you meant Monogah Mine, that was likely because the process was automated and by the time someone with Hornwright realized, it was too late to do something (also, none of them were employees, just people who were supposed to benefit from Hornwright’s payments to the town).

    • @Lux-fe6fd
      @Lux-fe6fd Год назад +12

      @@mcpossum They definitely aren’t yelling mother. Check the dialogue file for them on the wiki - that should put that theory to rest.

    • @mykeh3155
      @mykeh3155 Год назад +12

      @@Lux-fe6fd I was going to respond to everything but I basically ended up writing a wiki article...
      To put it simply, neither of us have any real evidence that amounts to anything, it's all just a few misplaced recordings, scribbled notes that could very well be imaginative stories, and outdated or second-hand opinions from people we can't even trust, I just wanted to show how muddy the info is.
      They absolutely had staff, so that automatically ticks off the need for protective mining gear, wouldn't make sense to make/order entirely new gear, especially not for one of the cheapest and careless companies in the industry.
      They went to the extent of murder to deal with protestors and other companies being successful, they exploited people as much as possible, they had no (or very few) safety regulations, it's pretty much a guarantee that they had off the books miners as slaves, especially when you consider that many people in the region were desperate for work.
      If they didn't care to recover all of the mining equipment in Monongah, it's safe to assume they didn't care if people were down there stealing it, this was probably business as usual for them.

  • @stevenapkins6460
    @stevenapkins6460 Год назад +193

    My new theory is Nuka cola dropped the bombs in their last attempt to stop vinpop

    • @victorelias7569
      @victorelias7569 Год назад

      Now every drink has radiation making it part of their trademark, the ultimate monopoly

    • @minutemenranger2287
      @minutemenranger2287 Год назад +38

      Sir, they STILL WONT give us the company."
      ....
      NUKE EM

    • @guavamax420
      @guavamax420 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@minutemenranger2287 China: Got it

    • @agustinsmania5270
      @agustinsmania5270 2 месяца назад +7

      LMAO THE FACT THAT YOU KINDA GOT IT RIGHT

    • @charlie7mason
      @charlie7mason 2 месяца назад +4

      @@agustinsmania5270 So close. lol. Off by just one company really, which is not bad, given the number of possible companies and countries.

  • @Pathfinder118
    @Pathfinder118 Год назад +432

    I remember in one of the textfiles I found for Hornwright that they cheated ALOT, to make the miners as efficent as the power armor, barely winning even while nearly doubling the amount of miners they were using. Meaning that Garrahan was right all along, man was still better than machine.

    • @erikaitsumi2633
      @erikaitsumi2633 Год назад +18

      Thjs doesn't make much sense to me. How can a machine be outproduced by men? It should be stronger and cheaper, while not having to eat, breathe or sleep.

    • @Pathfinder118
      @Pathfinder118 Год назад +77

      @@erikaitsumi2633 you gotta understand in fallout replacing miners with machines was about saving money not about being more efficient. Hornwright wanted to prove their design to sell it across the country and make oodles of money, they cared little for the miners who could by default perform the same task as the robots about as efficiently. They saw the competition as a way to drum up national interest in their autominer project and sell more. Their miners (as a few audio files will back up) had issues getting stuck, mining the wrong things, and in general well being not quite tough enough for the job thanks to cut corners.

    • @erikaitsumi2633
      @erikaitsumi2633 Год назад +9

      @@Pathfinder118 Then it makes even less sense. If cost cutting was the primary goal, it shouldn't matter if the robots have one tenth of efficiency and speed if they have one hundredth of maintenance costs - after all, robots need pennies worth of electricity while humans cost minimum wage.
      And even if they would need human oversight (for example to check what are they mining), then the employment is still going down since one operator can look over many units. Or maybe an AI even, or smarter version of mining bot.

    • @Pathfinder118
      @Pathfinder118 Год назад +36

      @@erikaitsumi2633 Your also talking about the real world, fallout uses it more as a metaphor for the rapid industrilization and destruction of the blue collar worker, this and to show that greed was far more important than the lives of the average person, when the miners that were fired revolted against the company by taking a bunch of the robots hostage so they could keep their jobs, the company used its money to get the army to go into the town and cause a massacre.

    • @erikaitsumi2633
      @erikaitsumi2633 Год назад +11

      @@Pathfinder118 I agree with much of it, but I simply don't agree with "man better then the machine", because if robots replaced people, they must have been more economic then people. That's how greed works. If humans were efficient enough to beat the cost reduction of automation, they wouldn't be replaced because they would provide more money. Ones again, that's what greed means.

  • @anotherfacelessname9270
    @anotherfacelessname9270 Год назад +205

    I love that not every underdog story is a triumph. It's depressing, but Fallout gives a good depiction of the real world, and how cheater do usually prosper. Although, a lot of Fallout's companies are comically evil

    • @Kawamura2
      @Kawamura2 Год назад +26

      A lot of real world corporations are comically evil as well. Fallout only exaggerates a little.

    • @charlie7mason
      @charlie7mason 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Kawamura2 Fallout doesn't even exaggerate at all. The only difference is the tech level (robots, nukes, cryogenics, energy weapons). If those were all common in our world...same thing.
      I do appreciate that there are still optimists out there who care to ignore the last couple centuries of capitalist economy and corporate behaviors though. Good on them for keeping their innocence alive into adulthood.

    • @Kawamura2
      @Kawamura2 2 месяца назад +1

      @@charlie7mason Well, maybe you're right. Capitalism is way overboard, and has overextended it's reach into governments.

    • @omegaprime223
      @omegaprime223 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Kawamura2 It's the modern implementation of the Keynesian economic model, it allows for basically infinite economic growth with the government shoring up failures. Unfortunately the people using it never realized Keynes came up with it to be used as the final kick to a post-scarcity society, they saw 'infinite growth' and couldn't stop themselves, and now it's collapsing because we just are not at the level of production efficiency it was designed for.

    • @jesusmatinez4461
      @jesusmatinez4461 2 месяца назад

      Capitalism is still the best system we have to date ​@@Kawamura2

  • @k9vendettathewolfofmordor529
    @k9vendettathewolfofmordor529 Год назад +170

    Aww man it's always nice to see companies that weren't extreme shit heads. I'd be pretty excited as a kid to see a power armored clad dude giving out pop

  • @red_hrlow
    @red_hrlow Год назад +386

    I love when he makes a full episode.

  • @WoodlandSocialist
    @WoodlandSocialist Год назад +252

    Vim!'s real life counter part Moxie is a favorite of mine as I love in neighboring NH. sadly though it's real life counterpart was bought out by Coca Cola around 2018.... It's long running independence ended after over 100 years

    • @arandomcommenter412
      @arandomcommenter412 Год назад +13

      Ironic..

    • @WoodlandSocialist
      @WoodlandSocialist Год назад +16

      @VoltDenatsu they have been adding more and more sugar too it over the years for sure. They want to make it more "palatable"

    • @FreelancerFreak
      @FreelancerFreak Год назад

      Moxie tastes like 💩

    • @franksherwood5511
      @franksherwood5511 Год назад +19

      One of the best ways to ensure that you had something to drink at lunch breaks was to bring Moxie. The lunch thieves would only steal it once.

    • @asianinvasian9022
      @asianinvasian9022 Год назад +5

      it was a great drink, tragic that coca cola bought them out

  • @owl6637
    @owl6637 Год назад +79

    I knew Vim would show up. They were pretty clean. Too bad Nuka-Cola was constantly trying to screw them over.

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 Год назад

      Glad it lasted though.

    • @1597B
      @1597B Год назад +4

      The biggest middle finger to NC was to keep existing independently.

    • @chadharger9323
      @chadharger9323 Год назад +1

      Real life analogy with another company with the word 'cola' in it. I check the label when I see a soft drink I don't know about.

  • @LifelessTooth
    @LifelessTooth Год назад +464

    I'm surprised you didn't put Sunset Sarsaparilla on the list. I mean aside from them making up a lousy reward for the blue star contest at the last minute, they seem pretty good.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Год назад +83

      Yeah, that silly ol' health advisory was a bunch of hooey.

    • @LifelessTooth
      @LifelessTooth Год назад +131

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 It legitimately is. The main ingredient for Sarsaparilla is sassafras, which the CDC classifies as being too toxic for standard sales in grocery stores. Funny enough, cinnamon is actually way more toxic than sassafras, but it gets a pass because most people know too much cinnamon can overpower the taste, so people just generally don't use it in hazardous amounts.

    • @molassesman4066
      @molassesman4066 Год назад +12

      @@LifelessTooth so may i ask if you can science me up how toxic a single sarsaparilla is in total

    • @ihateyankees3655
      @ihateyankees3655 Год назад +7

      They're a pretty standard shady megacorp by modern standards. Not good by any means, but at least they're not hiring thugs to fuck over the competition or putting radioactive isotopes in their beverages.

    • @bobbychild8529
      @bobbychild8529 Год назад +4

      @@molassesman4066 100. Source: _ ____ __ __.

  • @thebl4ckd0g
    @thebl4ckd0g Год назад +78

    Not sure if it's ironic or funny that most of the "good" companies are smaller or medium sized companies. It kind of mirrors real life for the most part. Places that start out as Mom & Pop shops and don't forget their roots - and don't get sucked into the greed of it all. Not surprising there are no HUGE massive companies on this list for "good" companies. :)

    • @thevoxdeus
      @thevoxdeus Год назад +25

      I've worked for four family businesses, and 3 of them were breaking the law on a daily basis. One of them seemed to be perfectly legit.
      Small businesses often have a lot of incentive to cheat or do shady things, just to survive. A small business can't do the kind of damage that Enron or Volkswagen did, but enough of them all doing bad things still adds up to a lot of damage.

    • @cityguard4847
      @cityguard4847 Год назад +6

      @@thevoxdeus At that point it depends on what laws they’re breaking and why.

    • @NikoKuehne
      @NikoKuehne Месяц назад

      @@thevoxdeusnow thats just illogical

  • @Max-ke3ty
    @Max-ke3ty Год назад +33

    Oh, the Bowling Alley one hit me hard when I found it.

  • @Embers0
    @Embers0 Год назад +54

    Mahkra Fishpacking also appeared to be an actual above-the-board company with no signs of sinister behavior

    • @gateship2
      @gateship2 Год назад +22

      I’m not about to trust a place in the Lovecraft corner of the map, that’s named “Arkham” in reverse.

    • @masonsykes2240
      @masonsykes2240 Год назад +18

      @@gateship2 "We've been getting these weird fish, they've got two legs and keep saying they're from Innsmouth"

  • @DamonPlantaseed
    @DamonPlantaseed Год назад +26

    Fallout has undeniably some of the greatest backstories in gaming. And their ability to tell stories through environments is unmatched

    • @killfected7309
      @killfected7309 2 месяца назад +1

      Say what you want about Bethesda but their games are allways made with love even starfield which may be lacking but isn't that bad actually

    • @DamonPlantaseed
      @DamonPlantaseed 2 месяца назад +1

      @@killfected7309 they let me down with Starfield because the world wasn’t as expansive and detailed as I’m used to from them but I’m holding out hope for Elder Scrolls

    • @killfected7309
      @killfected7309 2 месяца назад

      @@DamonPlantaseed they over-promised with starfield yea. but atleast they didnt abandon it yet so maybe they can fix SOME stuff. i got high hopes for elder scrolls 5 tough. i really hope its good

  • @Leon_LF
    @Leon_LF Год назад +27

    Heh, I was hoping you put Beaver Creek Lanes on the list. When I read those terminals I was surprised with such a wholesome story, I was shocked.

  • @connorthegunlovingeek7465
    @connorthegunlovingeek7465 Год назад +76

    This is probably obvious to y'all, but I think the story of Garrahan vs. Hornwright has a lot of parallels to the story of John Henry vs the Drilling Machine. Only in the Fallput universe, man sadly did not beat machine

    • @Victor-056
      @Victor-056 2 месяца назад

      That was because Hornwright Execs went and had Garrahan be sabotaged. You can find a data entry called "Hornwright Sabotage!" that mentions two of Garrahan HQ's generators were damaged and their filing cabinets were set ablaze... Keep in mind that the sabotage to the HQ was likely to distract Garrahan from what Hornwright were actually doing, i.e, stealing some of Garahan's mined ores.

    • @masterofthecontinuum
      @masterofthecontinuum 2 месяца назад +5

      And in real life, striking workers actually went to war with the companies and died so we could have weekends.

    • @stevenschnepp576
      @stevenschnepp576 2 месяца назад

      @@masterofthecontinuum That's not why we have weekends. That's just the story told by leftists who got Cs in history.

    • @denniswaske4839
      @denniswaske4839 2 месяца назад +1

      Garrahan vs. Hornwright feels more like Paul Bunyan vs. Joe muffaw to me.

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 2 месяца назад +1

      @@masterofthecontinuum No you got that because of Ford and his assembly lines. He noticed people performed better with shorter workdays and thus the 8 hour work day was popularized.

  • @mrviking2mcall212
    @mrviking2mcall212 Год назад +37

    Something I found off-putting about Fallout 4 was how it felt like just about every pre-war office, factory, school, lab, etc. had some pointlessly dark story. In Fallout 3 and New Vegas, there were definitely some twisted pre-war secrets to be found but many times you would enter the building and it would be (GASP) a regular-ass place! I liked it when the dark aspects of a place were post-war, especially with examples like the raider dungeons of Springvale Elementary or Vault 3.

    • @joshuaschmaltz4184
      @joshuaschmaltz4184 Год назад +1

      Lo

    • @krism.6598
      @krism.6598 Год назад

      Yeah, in New Vegas the only places that had dark lore were (understandably) the vaults, which was meant to contrast how evil Vault-Tech was compared to other companies. Even then, Vault 22 and the vault where the overseer was elected to be sacrificed as part of a morality experiment were the only really dark ones.

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 2 месяца назад +5

      Ya you couldn't kick over a rock without finding some sort of conspiracy.

  • @Moxilock
    @Moxilock Год назад +16

    If Moxie (Basically the real life equivalent of Vim!) did what Vim! did, then they would become hands down my favorite company ever

  • @spicysalad3013
    @spicysalad3013 Год назад +12

    It's sad how almost all the good companies are small or locally owned, and none of the big companies could stay clean

  • @cr8r145
    @cr8r145 Год назад +51

    If you are needing another "good" fallout company the super duper mart comes to mind just a grocery store chain providing stuff with no ulterior motives

    • @seanromine3932
      @seanromine3932 Год назад +9

      Well, sort of. What about the costumes they were selling for Halloween? The pint-sized slasher mask? The war themed ones- Chinese communist outfit, etc? It was a Halloween costume yes, but they were profiting from the war and a lot of people were not very cool with neighboring kids dressed up in them. Not necessarily as evil, but it could be argued that it was entirely in bad taste and were in both cases decisions that the company had made. Other places could sell them too, but nearly if not entirely all remaining advertisements depicting costumes are for the super duper mart.

    • @jessebushka467
      @jessebushka467 Год назад +7

      Ferals love them

    • @Trench1919A4
      @Trench1919A4 Год назад +39

      @@seanromine3932 dude they are Halloween costumes. you dislike them over Halloween costumes.

    • @seanromine3932
      @seanromine3932 Год назад +6

      @@Trench1919A4 the point was that they are technically good or are they just 'good.' Do you suppose they jacked up the prices on food and medicine as things continued to go south? Absolutely. How about the rising fuel costs? In fallout 4, your family owns a Mr. Handy robot, the super Duper Mart sells Mr Handy specific fuel tanks, the robot was likely cheap but the fuel was likely extortion. The costs of goods were not likely staying cheap, no. On the production side of things, likely not. Never the less, places like that will be setting the prices too. Why were they still fairly stocked when the bombs dropped? Because people couldn't afford their prices and in some cases had automatic defense systems in place to guard the property. The costumes are some of the last of what we see advertisements for. Likely exorbitant costs for otherwise garbage levels of costumes-would have been poorly assembled and designed. In the end, they had suits that were indeed in bad taste. Imagine if you were a family who were descended from peoples coming from China, enough to satisfy the cutoff for being taken away or spied on by the Government, but not above suspicion by neighbors. Imagine that all the other costumes were sold out and having to buy either a girls costume for a boy or one that would further cement things in the minds of your racist neighbors about your family were your child to wear the communist soldier costume. It's in bad taste.
      Also, I am going to say that I actually stand behind the decision to make landmines by the Wilson atamatoys corporation. It was not only the right decision because i consider the horse line of toys just stupid as they stand, wasteful in terms of sales costs-the solution being to try to make limited edition models to appeal to the spoiled brats that want every version instead of say, lowering costs to appeal to the every man consumer? The landmine idea meant that the company could see a profit, Arlen could finally spend time with his family-which both creators had been rather remiss about-the other was far too late to change things with but Arlen had time. Time though his wife would tell their daughter that he needed to take care of the horsies, understanding his obsession. Toys to let the children dream- so long as they could afford it you mean.
      That aside if course, if ever there was winning the war, eventually project scythe would have closed. Companies in the private sector would not be contacted to make weapons anymore and would likely have to revolve back into the projects of old based on their existing factory setups and manufacturing connections. Arlen didn't see that he was being given a chance to see his family more again. Didn't see that this could have saved the company during an economic downturn for everyone-massive inflation. Didn't see that the existing business model was not sustainable nor that scythe was never meant to be a permanently sustainable solution either.
      Wilson was always a good company, actually.

    • @Trench1919A4
      @Trench1919A4 Год назад

      @@seanromine3932 dude your whole argument has no proof. The only thing you got right is that Chinese citizens were imprisoned but super duper mart had nothing to do with that.

  • @mdkd99
    @mdkd99 Год назад +13

    Its amazing how much lore there is to read and engage with in the Fallout universe. Great video, didnt know about some of these

    • @MassivePonyFan
      @MassivePonyFan Год назад

      I never read terminals but I'll watch tons of lore videos.

  • @xX_Frogii_Xx
    @xX_Frogii_Xx Год назад +20

    You sound like if the diamond city radio guy didn't have constant voice cracks

  • @ScuffedJeo
    @ScuffedJeo Год назад +16

    I really like the aesthetic of Vim.

  • @thatwarframeguy3855
    @thatwarframeguy3855 Год назад +4

    In that last clip I could’ve swore he was about to start talking to me about how humorous images are somehow connected to the genetic information and fiber of my being.

  • @robertcross9863
    @robertcross9863 Год назад +56

    For H&H tools was hr implementing the bad stuff before or after house's dad passed because after and I think it's more of a bad owner rather than a bad company

    • @couriersix8294
      @couriersix8294 Год назад +20

      it seemed like a normal company untill houses brother took over full leading to policy and employee changes thats wat i got from reading the terminals there anyway

    • @robertcross9863
      @robertcross9863 Год назад +1

      @@couriersix8294 I thought that was the case if memory serves he was a crazy and paranoid man

    • @couriersix8294
      @couriersix8294 Год назад +5

      @@robertcross9863 yeah he was obsessed with the idea that someone had it out for him and wanted the company too

    • @Kris-wo4pj
      @Kris-wo4pj Год назад

      @@couriersix8294 thats cuz his half brother(robert house) was trying to take the company from him and succeed right before the bombs dropped cuz he stole robert's share of inheritance from robert when their father died. he was paranoid cuz robert made it clear he was going to get back at him. in the files ya can read about how he was going crazier and crazier until robert finally won. thats why that company is a death trap.

    • @saulesalejos4483
      @saulesalejos4483 Год назад +3

      @@couriersix8294
      I mean, when you backstab your brother taking over your father's company, and that brother is non other than Mr House, I would also start getting a wee paranoid.

  • @leiferickson1494
    @leiferickson1494 Год назад +20

    1:48 Can I ask how the heck a *soda company* can get access to several suits of state of the art power armor during a war?

    • @GettyFan08
      @GettyFan08 Год назад +1

      Project Cobalt

    • @leiferickson1494
      @leiferickson1494 Год назад +4

      @@GettyFan08 Project Cobalt was a collaboration between Nuka-Cola and the US Military, which only resulted in a single suit, not an independent local soda manufacturer

    • @0311Mushroom
      @0311Mushroom Год назад +4

      The T51 was already being phased out for the new T60, and the X01 was already in development.

    • @brysonkuervers2570
      @brysonkuervers2570 Год назад +2

      @@0311Mushroom Yeah that’s only cause Bethesda actively wipes their ass with the lore. T-51 was the pinnacle of power armour before the war and X-01 (or APA) was developed by the Enclave after the war

    • @happyjohn354
      @happyjohn354 2 месяца назад +2

      @@brysonkuervers2570 Pinnacle of technology not of cost effectiveness the T-60 is essentially a upgraded T-45 to the extant you could turn T-45 into T-60 with an upgrade kit thus more cost effective per unit due to not having the ceramic armor or something.
      There is also amphibious Marine Hellcat armor and Secret Service armor that shared some of its development with Enclave projects.
      Pinnacle of technology doesn't actually mean the best.

  • @pancakelover8623
    @pancakelover8623 Год назад +9

    I love these longer videos, can’t wait to see more

  • @andreistan7552
    @andreistan7552 Год назад +65

    i LOVE THE FALLOUT LORE SO MUCH......Hope Fallout 5 will have more interesting stories and a more bleak world to explore

    • @santaclaus5411
      @santaclaus5411 Год назад +10

      And less lag and consistent crashing. I have crashed in fallout 4 7 times this morning.
      All I want is a stable, modded single player fallout game similar to 4..

    • @payodomingo6789
      @payodomingo6789 Год назад +1

      my friend if you want bleak and if you like alternate history/lore then my friend you,re in luck i remend you watch what if the great war never happened

    • @jessebushka467
      @jessebushka467 Год назад +1

      @@santaclaus5411 do you have mods? Could be your load order is wrong or a certain mod is conflicting with another.

    • @C2HGaming
      @C2HGaming Год назад

      And a silent protagonist again. Fuck Shaun.

    • @jacksonm6969
      @jacksonm6969 Год назад

      @@santaclaus5411 same here bro I’ve reinstalled it bout 3 times now nothing has worked so i gave up on it

  • @stinkyfishld
    @stinkyfishld Год назад +10

    The fact the list is only 4 💀

  • @HappyMan0203
    @HappyMan0203 Год назад +7

    I imagine there were plenty of good companies, we just don't hear/know about them, given that the companies most seen in the Fallout series are the huge megacorps that effectively had control over the country.

  • @john34261
    @john34261 Год назад +6

    there is one thing i wonder about with fallout soda dispencers: why are they so big yet store so little? what i believe on how many soda bottles they can store is 12 of the small bottles and i wonder how the 2 other soda bottle sizes would look like in fallout universe

  • @natelarrieu7437
    @natelarrieu7437 Год назад +7

    Beaver creek lanes also built a ramp you can see still outside for his wheelchair

  • @vargrath3238
    @vargrath3238 Год назад +3

    Intresting now i like the Excavator PA even more. Really refreshing to hear some nice stories with good intensions in Fallout. Love it

  • @gamerfourlife64
    @gamerfourlife64 Год назад +8

    Good to know there was some good in pre war times hidden gems in all the dark an creepy lore ya love to see it

  • @tannernewbanks5961
    @tannernewbanks5961 Год назад +28

    Interestingly, I think General Atomics International actually ended up carrying a fairly clean record, at least for being one of the oldest and largest of the megacorporation's in Fallout. Largely being an appliance manufacturer, their capacity for evil was a bit limited, even though they often experimented a lot. The creation of the Robobrain is easily the biggest crime I can remember them committing, and I believe it was only ever ostensibly canon, inferred and referenced from the old Fallout Bible, making the extent of the crime hard to figure.
    For the most part though, General Atomics made robotics and appliances, sometimes for the military, yes, but none of that was really evil, just not as wholesome. Even their Artificial Intelligence Networked Robots thing was a good-intentioned failure. While not as clean as other companies mentioned in the video, the fact that GAI was one of the original Megacorporation's and still this clean should be noted.

    • @masonsykes2240
      @masonsykes2240 Год назад +7

      Fallout 3 had robobrains and an audio tape of some scientists terminating a test after it turned out that the prisoner whose brain theyd stolen was still self-aware when they turned on the robobrain, and cursed them out before they...terminated him.

    • @Pachyderm3
      @Pachyderm3 Год назад +1

      Well they made the Robobrains

    • @DovahFett
      @DovahFett Год назад +5

      Fallout 4's Automaton expansion explores the origins of Robobrains.

    • @benjaminhagen971
      @benjaminhagen971 Год назад +1

      I wonder if they were above board because General Atomics is a real world company.

    • @Youtbeisass
      @Youtbeisass 2 месяца назад +3

      General Atomics has a giant facility in Boston where it conducted pretty fucked up experiments on humans to make robobrains

  • @jerichohill487
    @jerichohill487 Год назад +7

    Great video, as always.

  • @innerlude
    @innerlude Месяц назад +1

    Great video. Thanks for sharing

  • @AlphaGator9
    @AlphaGator9 Год назад +2

    Thank you for looking for the good in the Fallout universe. :) *** I enjoyed your video very much.

  • @syndicalistcat3138
    @syndicalistcat3138 Год назад

    Nice video with an interesting topic, thanks!

  • @isaacsrandomvideos667
    @isaacsrandomvideos667 Год назад +3

    I love the interior and exterior of the Wilson atomatoys. I would love to work in a building like that (pre war of course)

  • @arius9748
    @arius9748 Год назад +6

    I've always wondered about the history of sunset sarsaparilla

  • @gordobutnot5365
    @gordobutnot5365 Год назад +2

    No time to sleep, norte uploaded a full video

  • @nomadwolfox2140
    @nomadwolfox2140 Год назад +1

    great videos man

  • @sockbeans1005
    @sockbeans1005 Год назад +83

    I know it's just a game but it's still very sad to see what went on just before the end of the world. This might be one of the worst fallouts but you have to hand it to Bethesda for putting as much detail in this as they did.

    • @fizzco3373
      @fizzco3373 Год назад +15

      There is no worst Fallout, they’re all equally good in their own ways.

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan Год назад +5

      @@fizzco3373 brotherhood of steel

    • @Paddy656
      @Paddy656 Год назад +3

      @@fizzco3373 they are all equally bad doodoo stinky

    • @GungaGingster1215
      @GungaGingster1215 Год назад +1

      @@fizzco3373 Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel, no redemption in either

    • @fizzco3373
      @fizzco3373 Год назад

      @@GungaGingster1215 Huh?

  • @doktor.josefsweeney6227
    @doktor.josefsweeney6227 Год назад +6

    Best RUclipsr on this website

  • @drinkinbuddy8264
    @drinkinbuddy8264 Год назад

    Very fascinating topic 😎

  • @Astro_Nullity
    @Astro_Nullity Год назад +1

    I love the full videos

  • @dannylonglegs3879
    @dannylonglegs3879 Год назад +2

    I want more ppl to play fallout so they can appreciate this video, I love this icel

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Год назад +7

    Corvega ironically wasn't that evil given the safety practices of the day and also the corvegas didn't melt down that much

  • @sterlinsilver
    @sterlinsilver Год назад +7

    did chryslus (corvega) ever do anything bad? as a company that large you'd expect it to be evil in the fallout universe but I haven't found anything on it...
    I just love their cars so much, I really hope they didn't do anything bad. I'd be pretty sad :(
    Tailfins forever!

    • @masonsykes2240
      @masonsykes2240 Год назад

      Hohonk

    • @Youtbeisass
      @Youtbeisass 2 месяца назад

      They are probably a private military contractor like Chrysler, so it's 100% guaranteed they have done something bad

    • @Maddiedoggie
      @Maddiedoggie 2 месяца назад

      They falsely advertised their cars as "fusion powered" when in reality they were fission powered as evident by the explosion as fusion doesn't explode. They likely also helped developed tanks and other military vehicles much like their real world counterpart.

  • @z3r0_35
    @z3r0_35 Год назад +3

    I think one could add Super Duper Mart to the list. As far as I can tell, they were just a grocery store chain, nothing shady there - any problems related to them would've been from the supply side of things, not the company itself.
    Sunset Sarsaparilla, as others have already pointed out, also seems to have a fairly mundane reputation, they just made soda. Not their fault that wastelanders came up with wild tales about their "blue star" marketing campaign.
    Chryslus Motors Corporation, as far as we know, didn't have anything shady going on either, the only notable thing we know about them being that they introduced fusion-powered cars to the world, although too late to prevent a war that the powers that be seemed dead set on having even if the crisis they used as an excuse was ever resolved. It also helps that they built their products to LAST (they'd better if they're going to charge $200K for one, otherwise you'll be paying off the loan to buy that car after it's already stopped working), whereas they could've very easily gone with the "planned obsolesence" route to keep people buying their products if they really wanted to; the fact that they didn't do that tells me that they saw there was more good to be done in the long run if they decided to put off short term profit in exchange for reducing demand on dwindling reserves of fossils fuels and maybe saving America from destruction...but, of course, they failed.
    One more I'd like to mention is the Boston Bugle, which seems to be a rare case of a news company that just wants to do their job, no need for sensationalism and yellow journalism (really I wish more irl media companies were like that, but that's not a discussion we'll have here). One of their employees even uncovered the Enclave, including their headquarters, before the war, but the bombs fell before the story could go public.

  • @ZhaziTheBeast
    @ZhaziTheBeast Год назад +10

    You forgot the Bawls Guarana company which can do no wrong and you should buy Bawls at your local grocery store

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Год назад

      The only ace that sells that around here is Micro Center and every time I go in there I come out with an empty wallet

  • @idontknoq4813
    @idontknoq4813 Год назад

    You've earned a sub!

  • @canderia
    @canderia Год назад +2

    Very cool. Added a lot of lore to places I had been, and didn't know the full story of.

  • @justinarnold6424
    @justinarnold6424 Год назад +1

    I LOVE your content but I’d love to see more about New Vegas from you.

  • @unfortunatetoast7963
    @unfortunatetoast7963 Год назад +2

    omg i was gonna request this one!!! are you a mind-reader lol? good content as always :^)

  • @brucejones7355
    @brucejones7355 Год назад +4

    About the Giddy Up Buttercup. What do you think the Zetans in Fallout 3 were doing with all those toy horses? Especially the one in the middle, with all the body parts around it. I would like to hear your piece on that. :)

    • @masonsykes2240
      @masonsykes2240 Год назад +3

      "We must replicate this small robotic equine"
      "Why?"
      "For the Zetan children, of course!"

  • @JRojas0743
    @JRojas0743 Год назад +4

    for a second I thot that I was going mad when I saw the video saying good complaints but then I thot about sunset in new vegas

  • @zabtronics
    @zabtronics Год назад +8

    Sometimes the pre war government and big corporations make me think the nukes weren't so bad honestly, especially the Canadian annexation and the numerous war crimes committed

  • @LostDisciple24
    @LostDisciple24 2 месяца назад

    The Arlen Glass story is so sad...one of the saddest stories in all of Fallout. Oxhorn has an excellent video on it titled "Toymaker." I bring this up, because it was the first company that I thought of when I clicked on this video.

  • @MassivePonyFan
    @MassivePonyFan Год назад +1

    I never read the terminals but I love lore videos.

  • @koopaking6148
    @koopaking6148 Год назад +2

    Definitely agree with the toy company one... Just because someone doesn't do what's best for their family doesn't mean that there not doing what's best for the company... Although it does mean that they might not be good a properly managing their personal life...

  • @calum5975
    @calum5975 Год назад +3

    I wonder if Vimpop has any inspiration from Vimto, originally called Vim Tonic. Vimto is a British soft drink, it's a blackcurrant and grape flavoured drink with a slightly "spiced" taste, almost like Mulled Wine (Vimto served hot is actually really warming in winter). It is sold carbonated and a still concentrate (what we call squash in the UK).

    • @zeevnation6558
      @zeevnation6558 Год назад

      Vimpop is inspired by Moxie. A Maine soda that was intially sold as a tonic. Up here you'll find Moxie being sold right next to Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Maine, especially Bar Harbor also holds a staunch hatred for any business that isn't local or state grown

    • @calum5975
      @calum5975 Год назад +3

      @@zeevnation6558 I understand that in terms of branding and the type of beverage that it's based on Moxie, but the name is simply too close to Vimto for me to think it's not a reference to that.

    • @zeevnation6558
      @zeevnation6558 Год назад

      @@calum5975 Oh yeah, I wouldn't put it past them at all to do that!

  • @woodrobin
    @woodrobin 2 месяца назад +1

    2:40 -- Wilson Atomitoys *might* be a little iffier than outward appearances make it seem. There is evidence from the Mothership Zeta DLC for Fallout 3 that shows that the Zetans had some involvement in the Giddyup Buttercup toy. The question is whether or not Wilson or Glass knew anything about the aliens apparently using alien-produced Buttercups as spies and potential vectors of attack. But there is definitely a whole room full of them on the Mothership as well as manufacturing equipment for them.

  • @Megalon-qc8pf
    @Megalon-qc8pf Год назад +6

    Can you do more of these?

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 Год назад +1

    When it comes to the toymaker, its not like he was sending land mines to kids hidden it toys. He simply switched to a wartime production...

  • @girf4233
    @girf4233 2 месяца назад

    The story of the Garrahan mining company and the Garrahan's themselves just make me feel bad. They cared for their workers and tried to make sure they wouldnt go out of jobs. Failed and Vivian especially took it real hard. I wish we can get to see Garrahan's again in one way or another. Penelope Hornwright's alive, and so are the rest of the Hornwright's apparently. In a vault somewhere. Not impossible the Garrahan's were out there somewhere too. Really like 76. It has a ton of interesting lore.

  • @Lordoftheapes79
    @Lordoftheapes79 2 месяца назад

    If you see Arlen Glass' story to its end, a new random encounter is added to the pool...

  • @AzureSkyCiel
    @AzureSkyCiel 2 месяца назад

    I kind of found it funny how Vim!'s darkest company secret that you find was the Captain's Blend was made from... Crab shells. Not people, not radiation, nothing bad. Just... Crab shells. A little gross but, hey, it was apparently still good.

  • @o_o6983
    @o_o6983 Год назад +2

    Hey, I've never played fallout 4 (I'm assuming that's what this game play is) but I'm really interested in your play style and the gun, would you be interested in making a video on how you get this this point and how to play aswell as how to play like you?

  • @BadgerOfTheSea
    @BadgerOfTheSea 2 месяца назад

    It is suggested in earlier Fallouts that the Giddy Up Buttercup is something aliens had an interest in so it is perhaps not that innocent

  • @The-three-eyed-Prophet
    @The-three-eyed-Prophet Год назад +2

    good companys are so rare people call their news conspiracy theories ...

  • @eddiedelgado60
    @eddiedelgado60 6 месяцев назад

    This video had to be made honestly. Never realized all the good companies in the Fallout Universe.

  • @TACO_BELL-bs9pv
    @TACO_BELL-bs9pv Год назад +3

    The Garrahan vs. the Hornwrites fight is like Paul Bunyan

    • @BlueBoxMadMan
      @BlueBoxMadMan Год назад

      I can see that. I also feel like it's a reference to the Hatfields and McCoys.

    • @DongeSpongle
      @DongeSpongle 3 месяца назад

      It is a reference to the legendary showdown between rail workers and automatic spike driving machines.

  • @benjijacobs2049
    @benjijacobs2049 Год назад

    I remembered finding the story of the beaver creak lanes and I found it both heartwarming and sad. These were just normal people living their lives, all friends who played bowling who faced tragedy after tragedy culminating in the apocalypse. It’s stories like theirs that make the world feel alive
    I also really like the striker as a reusable fatman if you want it, it’s a fun little gimmick weapon

  • @thehive711
    @thehive711 2 месяца назад

    I love that they added moxie (aka vim) to far harbour

  • @ibiteicecream7581
    @ibiteicecream7581 Год назад +3

    I’d give almost anything to play fallout for the first time again

  • @Gothic7876
    @Gothic7876 2 месяца назад

    I would argue that ArcJet Systems were all mostly good, or if not good, benign. The CEO was focused on keeping his company afloat and making sure his staff stayed employed.

  • @user-gr3vx1qn3p
    @user-gr3vx1qn3p Месяц назад

    story about mining company is so cool

  • @theironclad215
    @theironclad215 Год назад +5

    ok what is he using to seee the containers glow like that i like that a lot more than loot detector

    • @nekoali2
      @nekoali2 Год назад +7

      The highest Scrapper perk highlights items and containers with items that you've marked for searching.

  • @slitherthewizardofwither6959
    @slitherthewizardofwither6959 Год назад +5

    I'm surprised any exist

  • @Tomyironmane
    @Tomyironmane 2 месяца назад +1

    -Vim was in the red... yeah, because Nuka-Cola is about as amoral as IRL Nestle (Clean drinking water is not a human right), and was driving them there with industrial sabotage.
    -Wilson Atomatoys... You never played Fallout 3, Mothership Zeta. I'm not sure those horses are as innocent as you think.
    -Beaver Creek Lanes. You missed the fact that those goobers had installed a crude wheelchair ramp up the front stairs. You even walked on it in the video. They were dead set on helping their buddy bowl that 300. Also, that wasn't a landslide, that was those Nuka Cola bastards sabotaging a soda truck and causing it to fly off the road above the lanes, and they were playing shitty-buggers with the insurance and law too, tying the payout for Beaver Creek in red tape... Beaver Creek literally suffered from the fallout from the soda wars.

  • @babycarrotz32
    @babycarrotz32 Год назад

    MAKE A PART TWO!

  • @thedruid7928
    @thedruid7928 Год назад

    The last message from the Wilson Automatoys broke my fucking heart...

  • @korosheht5446
    @korosheht5446 Год назад

    Aww man the last part made me very sad

  • @vincentm.7462
    @vincentm.7462 6 месяцев назад

    Marlene Glass wasn’t a baby. She sounds like elementary/middle school age. You can find her holotape in Wilson Automotoys and give it to Ghoul Arlen at the Slog.

  • @andrewa9013
    @andrewa9013 Месяц назад

    Omg crazy I saw this video and before I even started it the first thing I thought was “Vim”

  • @joebartolozzisfridge8028
    @joebartolozzisfridge8028 Год назад +12

    As the CEO of Atoma toys I can confirm that we put bombs in our toys

    • @nekoali2
      @nekoali2 Год назад +5

      Well the Zetans from Mothership Zeta were obsessed with the Giddyup Buttercups for some reason, and had at least one that was apparently a killer robot. It was never clear if that was something they did, or they were made that way by the factory.

    • @joebartolozzisfridge8028
      @joebartolozzisfridge8028 Год назад

      @@nekoali2 we made them for bad children

  • @batlover2003
    @batlover2003 2 месяца назад

    Captain’s blend 😂 one of the craziest pieces of lore IMO. What witchcraft was that

  • @morganmedrano920
    @morganmedrano920 Год назад +1

    I'm glad Garahan made the list.

  • @agingmillennialmainer
    @agingmillennialmainer Месяц назад +1

    Vim is Moxie. Right down to the health tonic origin.

  • @DaMoniable
    @DaMoniable Месяц назад

    The autominers winning, causing the automation to secure a complete victory is stupid. We're talking about an era where everything is automated, and machine has long beaten man, as far back as the 1920s. The fact that man got so close to beating machine would have made an uproar, and undoubtedly flood the job market with applicants for excavator suits.

  • @iholdallthecards3003
    @iholdallthecards3003 Год назад

    Man i love playing Bar harbor

  • @steverukia6247
    @steverukia6247 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @randomperson-qj1oq
    @randomperson-qj1oq Месяц назад

    vim pop is the ONLY company that fully survived all the way up until the bomb dropped, based af