Brexit: Tearing the Tories Apart?
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2019
- Ken Clarke and Iain Duncan Smith, two of the most senior, long standing members of the Tory Party, discuss the state of the Conservatives.
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Clarke had the whip withdrawn in September after he voted against the government.
A passionate opponent of Brexit and a life-long Europhile Clarke discusses how Brexit and Europe is eating away at his party with his long-standing colleague and former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith - a vocal proponent of leaving the EU.
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"Brexit: Tearing The Tories Apart"
Me "Good"
pammens miss me! I’m a remainer but even with Labour’s confusing policy on Europe I’ll still vote for them as they’ve got the best domestic policies. The LibDems are nothing more than Tories
May be tearing the corrupt Tory politicians but not the people who voted BREXIT
Tom Brumpton unfortunately tearing Labour apart too.
@pammens miss
I'm not being torn apart by brexit. I've always thought it was going to be a disaster and that ordinary people would be the ones to suffer the most!
Brexit will be great for the rich. But the rest of us will go down the pan.
Why not abolish totally?
I'll settle for the Tories being completely and totally destroyed forever.
Not going to happen! Tories will win the election!
ChristianPatriarchy you mean like the disgusting Nazi party did in 1933
Niot an overwhelmingly insightful comment but very well, tell us what should replace them
Yorick Jenkins a true Labour Party like Corbyn is offering. My point does add something Nationalism is dangerous is it the killer of minorities and democracy. We saw it with `Franco,Pinochet and Hitler (Hitler who used the word ‘Socialist to gain votes as Socialism was popular in Germany at the time in the 1933 election ,whilst despising Socialism
I won’t read your rabid nationalistic reply so don’t bother having a go at views. My point does add something Nationalism is dangerous is it the killer of minorities and democracy
Thomas Bisschoff no they want,we’ll get a hung parliament
Ken Clarke is a gent. Agree with him or not, at least he's got principles in terms of what he believes in. Wish him a happy retirement.
@Steven Austin What OP means that this person stands for his believes and ideals and unlike Johnson doesn't alter every five minutes.
A person that dares to change their opinion and view due to being proven different is respectable… A man who does it just for political gains and ego is bad.
@Repulse theMonkey you know that Clarke voted for brexit more times than Johnson has, right? And voted for a better deal than the one currently negotiated by Johnson, who laughed at that one? Try to educate yourself before making a fool of yourself on the internet.
hes not perfect but hes twice the man IDS is. compare their body languages and the fact IDS wont even do him the dignity of looking at him whilst hes listening to him. speaks volumes.
nah, dude's a ballgina
I'm a Labour party member and think he's great. Disagree with much of his politics but he's not partizan, he's good humoured and does talk of a lot of good common sense.
Was also right on Iraq and Europe.
The Tory Party is finished.
I hope so but they now have the dumbest working class electorate in Europe actually supporting them. A totally depressing state of affairs. It's Britain that's finished, not the English Tory Brexit party.
This aged like a fine wine
I never liked IDS and that interview did nothing to change my view.
I really enjoy these videos, with 2 people who fundamentally disagree on a variety of issues are able to sit and talk things through and be reasonable. Far far too many are unable to do this.
Agreed. Can you imagine Jo Swinson and Jeremy Corbyn, or Jo Swinson and Ian Blackford, or Jo Swinson and anybody...
Darren Stott I don’t tend to agree with Ken or IDS on much, besides how they voted for the Boris’ Withdrawal Agreement, but it’s enjoyable to see two grown up politicians.
@@BobAg_ Orderrrrrrr!!!!
Yes, agree. And people, sitting on the same sofa, next to each other, has a big impact, actually. Should be used more often in other fora.
Ad Havn Think you’ve got a point there. Atmosphere of the debate is helped by the two being able to sit comfortable as they like
*They will face a humiliating defeat*
Who are they?
@@ChristianPatriarchy you are right then - sorry for the misunderstanding. The Tories will win the election!
I think there will be a hung parliament again. Many zealots blame parliament for not delivering Brexit but they conveniently forget that there was a huge campaign and activism to produce a hung parliament. Many people voted tactically in 2017 (in many respects it was the first tactical election). This will happen again, in my view. I think it is likely you will get at least 100 seats with smaller parties (52 to SNP, 40 something to LD and 10 to Greens, PC and Indies). This will automatically produce a hung parliament. I think Labour and Tories will be more or less level pegging with Tories a few seats in the lead, but they will not be able to form a government because the DUP now acknowledge that Brexit basically means the decline of the Union. I think a left-of-centre coalition will form , Corbyn will be gone (thankfully and at long last) and Kier S will be in charge and the coalition will be in power for 1 year whilst a second ref comes into play. I think remain will comfortable win that ref by over 60% and then there will be another election in Spring 2001 where Labour under Kier S will get a majority and start to fix austerity Britain.
@@pr4442 good analysis!
malcolm watson Do we not live in a class society?
See, the Tories want independence from the EU but they’ve got shares in EU companies so they’re stuck in this position where they need to leave but they don’t want to.
Steven Austin no, but if you’ve got an ongoing profit from a EU-based business, why would you want to sever those ties?
Steven Austin Because if I was a big EU company and I saw Jacob Rees-Mogg, who has shares in my company, screaming about how bad the EU is, I wouldn’t want to associate with him...?
I never said they needed to server ties. My point is, the Tories need to leave the EU because that’s what the vote says, democracy is democracy, but they don’t *want* to leave because they have shares in companies that are in the EU. They will seem like hypocrites if they disprove of the EU but still profit by it
Steven Austin Listen boomer, you call me captain obvious yet you fail to see my point. Their shares are not irrelevant at all. Let me spell it out for you because it’s clearly a hard concept for you to grasp:
The Tories must force the leave of the EU because that’s what the majority of the UK want - according to the referendum. However, when the PM puts forward a deal, it is often rejected by the party. This is because many Tory politicians have shares in EU companies. The Tory motive is to show that the UK is better off without the EU - yet the very same politicians are benefiting from the EU. Therefore they look like hypocrites. They are thriving from the very thing they are telling us is bad. So that brings us back to my original point: they are between a rock and a hard place. They have to leave, but they don’t want to
swansea007791 Again, I never said that. I’m sure it’s a struggle, but how about you try to read through my previous comments.
never promise something you can't guarantee Bojo. And now we should trust your so-called great new deal. Yeah right :)
Vebjorn Grytten head of nato selling bombs to Saudis to coause genocide on yea men children old and hospitals none elected prime minister with insufficient numbers to form a gov with mass resignations come on uk wake up
As far as credibility goes, it doesn't help if your leader is a proven liar.
What if he is a supports all the enemies of the country over the nation itself?
All politicians are liars. All cheat. It goes with the personality type needed for that job.
@@oafpolitics179 I rest my case
@@hopethisworks1212 Seems to me if all politicians are liars, then it isn't really an argument to say one or other of them are liars to convince people vote for one or other of them. It is a pointless case to make politically.
Try policy.
@@oafpolitics179 What stupid attempt at a cohesive argument. Johnson has been shown to be a liar many times. If he states what his policy is, how do you know he is not lying to YOU! Show me an example of Corbyn lying if you have the concentration span to look for that long.
@@hopethisworks1212 Johnson has lied more than most. I wish Iain wasnt in this interview. He has no credibility anymore
Tories out. Labour in.
@actnowone you must be on drugs to want the same party to be in power again after all the rubbish in past decade
@actnowone I will happily take Emily and Diane over Rees Mogg and Patel so there!
There is a saying........People who can....DO, people who cannot .......Teach, .....and people who cannot teach.....become POLITICIANS
What if you can't be a politician? 🤦♂️
The Tories can't win without the Brexit Party and Boris will soon know if he doesnt already.
He's doing a deal with UKIP.😂😂😂
@@cesarchavez6614 Wait and see !!!!!!!!!! Boris's ego will give us real Brexit and Farage will deliver the killer blow to the Remainers.
Cummings despises Farage, and for good reason. Cummings is an intellectual first and foremost and Farage's lack of any intellectual rigour or coherent and comprehensive world view renders him beyond consideration, a simpleton. This view of Farage is indisputably correct and as long as Cummings is pulling Boris's strings Boris will not go anywhere near him. There will be no rapprochement with the ERG or UKIP, see if I am wrong.
@Keith TPC
said:
_The Tories can't win [the 12th December general election] without the Brexit Party, and Boris will soon know if he doesn't already._
It is very likely, going by the polls, that the Conservatives would win the general election, KTPC. The issue is, would they be a hung parliament: is that what you mean?
@@phonicwheel933 And the polls have been consistently wrong about everything for a very long time, they were completely wrong about the eu elections just a year ago. I don't support either but polls are just an establishment tool used to dissuade voters and anyone who thinks they are accurate is in for a very big shock. Chances of Donald trump being elected, polls said 5 percent. chance of a tory majority last election, polls said 85 percent, all wrong. Polls are useless.
I can’t stop looking at Ken’s meat and potatoes.
He's packing. I am a woman btw, logged in on my husband's account.
@@patrickrossi1754 yeh yeh
More like fat.
Also lack of vibes. Dying dinosaurs. Should be on green pasture for few years.
More like a HERNIA
Ask IDS how many lives his policies have destroyed and blighted.
He has the numbers.
Does he care though? The Tories are bone fide sociopaths. Brexit proves that.
@@karmabomb3768 He has been told by the courts to reveal the numbers on deaths caused by his policies on more than one occasion and has not yet complied. He says they might be "missconstrued" by the public. So he cares at least about the impact they might have on his reputation if nothing else.
@Brexit Monger Is that brexiteers policy then, to kill the disabled? Heard that one before somewhere.
Aktion T4, euthanasia by the state. You are an actual fascist . most brexiters/patriots deny it.
Put it in your manifesto then.
It's basically going to be do you want the European model of society or the American one, - bearing in mind that workers in America are far more pressurised with fewer rights and haven't had a pay rise in real terms since the 1970s and the gap between richer and poorer there gets ever larger. Education is extremely expensive and so is healthcare. The Tories in Britain have been pushing us more towards this model with their privatisations etc. Jeremy Corbyn wants to reverse some of that and most of the press, run by rich Tory supporting men, have been bashing him non stop for fear he'll succeed. Notice that when IDS speaks Ken Clark listens and looks interested, whereas when Ken Clark speaks IDS looks like someone pressed his 'standby' mode button. Nothing fazes Ken Clark. IDS has faced some 'fazers on stun' it seems.
One of the most enjoyable and inciteful interviews in recent years - with tw respected and eloquent politicians expressing their candid judgement. Best wishes to you Ken and thanks for your public service
NO! We want the BRITISH MODEL!!!! It is the most successful model of all time and we have absolutely no need to change it to belong to a ridiculous political union!
@@greeny202ab obviously you are suffering from denial of the facts. The world has moved on from Great Britain and if the Brexiteers don't move on too you will end up with Pariah Little England next state of the USA.
@@seriousmaran9414 The world has moved on from regional joint government blocs and has become much more globalized. We no longer need the 1950's style EU and if they do not move into the present the rest of the world world will leave them behind.
In ten years time the UK will be a global economic powerhouse as the gateway between the EU, the US and the British Commonwealth.
@@greeny202ab wrong, all countries are heading into trade pacts, even the USA with Canada and Mexico.
There are no countries who only use WTO rules trading and Britain is already contested there. E
We no deal leave with Northern Ireland we break the GFA, and potentially get unlimited tariffs on our exports.
We're bored now . THE GOVERNMENT THAT CRIED WOLF
Ken has obviously forgotten that "Gentlemen should adjust their dress before leaving the urinal."
Thst is age , i remember my Dad at that age was the same
Rarely has a man wearing a full suit & tie exposed so much
Dementia works endlessly.
@Afterglow1010 When dementia creeps in, what do you expect?
“I think 6 weeks is too long for an election.”
Meanwhile in the U.S., we’re 50 weeks into an election that’s 50 weeks away.
The Tories sold out this country in1972 and ken clark wants to praise tedd heath. .
Why couldn’t just Westminster and the City declare independence and join Singapore as solely and solemnly WTO-based union and leave the rest of us to live in peace?
ChristianPatriarchy Does it matter to you?
@@ChristianPatriarchy The rest of us are those working in export sector, be it sheep farming, agriculture (dependent on temporary, foreign workers), building and construction, landlords and tenants, factory workers (producing cars, airplanes, etc.), elderly, retired persons, those retirees and others living in the EU, those EU-nationals living in the UK, everybody in Wales, Northern Ireland, Irish Republic, Scotland, universities and researchers both in the UK and in EU, fishermen, those working in airline and tourism, everyone with £ for income and pension, everyone with family members either in the EU or in the UK, those adhering to environmental standards and producing natural foods and meats, most shops on high streets, most music, theatre and other performing artists, smaller banks and building societies unable to compete in an irregulated financial market, those with plans of holidays or current activities across the Channel (including travellers and traders with live animals), etc. Basically everyone but those who are either brainless or brainwashed by such as religion. Most EU migrants (as elsewhere in Europe) assimilate totally within one generation. Their immigration to the UK stands at around 250K a year (no stats for departures). Immigration from outside EU is 650K a year. The empire is now more, since most of its citizens have no right or want for British nationality. Yes, I guess, THE REST OF US comprises of everyone else except those Christian Cross waving lunies like you. Next, try silver bullets? As from me, to answer your question, I originate from Northeast Somerset.
I wonder what the future holds if the traditional ruling party of the last half a century wants a deal like no deal Brexit.
This conversation, between long time residents of the Westminster Bubble, sitting comfortably and droning on in laid-back languid tones is a diagram - yes ! yet another one - that British democracy is facing a serious and systematic breakdown. Our parliamentarians are out of touch with stark reality, and if they realize that, what is worse, apparently don't care. Nowhere here was it possible to see any desire or ability to tackle real problems and find a solution.
The Brexit Party is correct, a fundamental shake up of the composition of Parliament is required, and that will require getting rid of members who are basically interested in themselves, having a cushy job for at least five years, [ and with luck many more years beyond that ]. Which will guarantee that the back and forth wrangling leading nowhere will continue,
I just wish Ken would sort his trousers out.
Put a table in front of it ffs
the man is nearly 80 years old. you can wear your trousers however you like when you are ,80.
Great interview, nice to see two opposite end veterans have a civilised and fun chat about the state of politics.
Why two of same club GIN & Tonic should fight over nothing? Both are the same creatures.
Attempting to b.s. nation as UK PEOPLES RULERS. After all, people have no brains as they claimed with REFERENDUM.
Fun chat? These people are insane.
Fun and we are off to the British Empire LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know a way to log back into an Instagram account?
I somehow forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Damian Israel Instablaster ;)
Stupid to mix up general election and referendum.
Hard not to I suppose.
Brextards know that they would lose a referendum.
@C R
You want another referendum?
@C R
So you think you will lose a referendum and that's why you don't want one. that's not very democratic, is it?
The Tories are dead in a ditch - there are only so many times we can accept being lied to and we can't swallow anymore. The only party who is constant and true is the Brexit party and that is the party I will be voting for.
Brexit party are only one trick pony. Then what ...
iain duncan smith is a chilling reminder of just how misguided all the kings horses and all the kings men were when they tried to put humpty dumpty back together again.
aaroninky LoL, lovely, tx
Tories have the same beliefs and prejudices as UKIP and the Brexit Party but they already have the wealth and power.
Tories did not want to discuss the economy... £2 trillion debt, investment companies leaving, over £1trillion financial investments management gone to EU. Massive tax cuts for the rich.
Farmers, fishing and manufacturing could shut down or move out.
No wonder the Tories don't want to mention the economy.
Boris is an arrogant torie fool , He is the perfect successor to a May thing , Remember this is a May's deal without the lipstick . But for me it has cleared up one problem i had and that was boris is NO brexiter so i thank him for that. Nigel you have my vote unconditionally now.
Why does Iain keep stroking his non-existent beard and non-existent hair?
because ken is rubbing his inner thigh
Because he's a balding, beardless anti-hero. Dr. Evil Duncan Smith.
Once upon a time, the Tories were a decent party.
They never were...
@Albert Pike And who do you propose to replace them with? The Brexit party, I suppose. The Tory party these days is bad enough; the Brexit party, a whole lot worse.
@Albert Pike
You still spouting out your bile albert. Go and listen to your brextard fools.
@Albert Pike You're clearly one of the Brexiteers. Oh dear! 🙃
Pick a date, any date?
More like 'Brexit - tearing the UK apart'.
The Tory mantra has always been if it ain't broke don't fix it. What Brexit has brought to light is just how many aspects of national life are completely broken. Ken Clarke's position seems to be storm in a teacup, seen it all before, it'll all wash over. The problem is the Conservative Party aren't social conservatives, they're laissez faire neo-liberals of an increasingly radical kind. Labour voters - if not Labour membership - are more instinctively conservative than the Tories, which is something the Conservative Party are not prepared to admit to, never mind address. This general election will demonstrate the fact in numbers and possibly in seats, too.
tearing the tories apart? LOL!! look at labour.
The labour party. The only one that will give you a second referendum. They've got my vote!
@@hopethisworks1212. Me too.
@@hopethisworks1212 that the least a democracy can want- not "what about 5 years back..?" bull
@@jubsaddinger9004 Oh yes 'bull'... what americans say. A polish based bot with copy and paste phrases? You americans really want us to leave ,don't you!
11:54 Ken just admitted our public services and towns are a mess because of Tories!
Is anyone else reminded of Statler and Waldorf from The Muppet Show? :)
Before Article 50 was put to the House, the political treaties that took us into the Political Union should have been repealed putting us into the position of Norway.
Theresa May never should have called an election until at least the above had been done & the Referendum Result could have been said to have been implemented.
What the preferred future relationship with Europe might be could then more clearly be debated & voted on in a general election.
People who crossed the floor should have faced by-elections so that the issue of Democracy was not called into question.
Honest public disclosures of the integration & alignment plans in areas of the military, regulations, customs & anywhere else are needed as much of the problem comes from things being snuck through by self righteous &/ self serving power elites.
"People who crossed the floor should have faced by-elections..." That will make people afraid to speak freely if they are afraid that they will be jobless if their party's leader is not pleased with their opinion.
Be careful what you wish for!
and then there was Nigel
Yeah, don't forget to vote UKIP! 😂😂😂
rollo antonio Brexit Party 🎉
@@hamishsomerville4064
😂😂😂😂
Boris knew he had the figures in parliament to get through his so-called new fantastic deal if he threatened MPs with a no deal, but then the extension came and his dream of becoming a Brexit hero became somewhat more distant . Now with a new incoming parlament the chance of a no deal will be there so then he takes no deal of the table on the conservative program. He tries to play the people as a master of a violin.
''Career Politicians''... says it all!
Ha career professional quite agree. Fat bloke down pub told me I need some major surgery, just wondering if you might be free this weekend to have a go at it.
Well, what do you want? JOBCENTRE rejected them all, as UNQUALIFIED to any job.
Jobs at public cleaners toilets are been taken by young MPS now.
Seer Seerwealth that is such an ignorant comment, I can only assume that you speaking about yourself, too stupid to be employable.
@@saxglend9439 Exactly. Opportunist one timers will say anything to win, as they don't have anything to lose.
At least career politicians have a record according to which one can judge them, and vote accordingly.
The Tories are tearing the Tories apart . the politicians in Westminster on the Brexit debate are tearing the country apart....WHAT PART OF LEAVE DONT THE POLITICIANS IN WESTMINSTER UNDERSTAND
I really enjoy these sit-down conversations with intelligent people!
Okay ids lets have a debate on the economy let’s talk about how the Conservative party increased national debt three fold whilst cutting national spending to cut taxes for the richest people in society losing billions in tax revenue. Let’s talk about how the current economic model since the Conservative party came into power has seen virtually zero growth. Let’s talk about how the uk is throwing away all of its bargaining chips to get a rip off free trade deal with America.
boris and his ego is destorying the country,
Talking ribbish, the Communist party led by comrade Corbyn will destroy this country if he gets a chance.
Ian Betts what, you mean like the Tories have destroyed the country over the last decade? You sound ridiculous.
@@Lostinjp go and see Venezuela which Corbyn wants to model Britain into where people are eating there own pets to stay alive. You haven't got a clue.
Ian Betts he wants to model Britain on Venezuela, does he? Where did you learn that? The Sun? The Mail? Patterns left by your urine in the toilet? Laughable.
@@Lostinjp It came from his own mouth. Wake up you brainwashed fool Compo Corbyn is a Marxist protester who couldn't run a corner shop.
I really enjoyed that!
I like Ken Clarke but then he speaks about ‘Margaret’ with a tone of respect and of his fondness for IDS. Then I remember he’s a Tory.
He calls her Margaret becuase it is the phony Tony age of everyone calling each other by their Christian names. He probably calls Benn Tony. If you want to say someone is a non person you refer to them by their surname
Ken and Margaret were big mates until Mrs Thatcher began to lose her plot late during her leadership.
These were the 2 finalists during the Tory leadership contest in 2001. The Tories voting for IDS as their leader instead of Ken Clarke, purely because of their respective views on Europe which is totally irrelevant to the public at the time, was a comically stupid decision and act of self harm. IDS is probably the most useless Westminster party leader in living memory, and only lasted 2 years before his colleagues got rid of him.
remember remember the first of November
Bought time he left father of the house lol geez good ridence ken
Ken!...Why can't Boris return to the EU and say "we've changed our minds! This deal is off!" ?? It's EXACTLY that policy on which the Labour Party are standing for election on! They intend to do EXACTLY that! They're going to ask for one and campaign against it!
Tell the people the truth. Bad Deal. For Leave. Voter,s. Wake up. Study that deal.
Body language says it all
Oh dear......confidence in any serving mp has gone...... only a few have upheld the will of the people...the others deserve to never serve the people again !!
I wish it would REMOVE the Tories!!
Leave means LEAVE, they have proved you can't trust them and that will count when people vote!
Democracy means accepting the result win or lose, these people have forgotten that, they should all be sacked ..
The Tories: You're tearing me apart brexit!
nice try
Ian Duncan Smith does a pretty good impression of Sad Ben Affleck.
"Jeremy is a hugely unpopular figure...", Clarke neglected to add, "... with the media and their oligarch masters."
We Brexiters love Europe, it's the European Union that Brexiters did not want to be part of it any more, in 1970 is we joined EEC which made sense but it has become political Union, to me EU is no different from EUSSR..when they have the last say in our laws, free movement and so on, let's have our independent back.
really gets under my skin when they talk about jc with arrogance. Like they know what the public will vote for 100%. They wrote jc off in 2017 and they was wrong. We have had 9 years of tory rule and thats not to mention the hash they have made of brexit with back tracking both TM and Doris. People voted to just leave then create trade not dogdy deals first there for, this deal needs to go back to the people so they can vote for or reject it.
IDS was leader at one point for pity sake, what is gibbon on about suggesting he was always at the fringes until 2016?
These videos are absolutely superbly produced. Congratulations to everyone involved, please keep this up.
The Tories voted 247 constituencies leave vs 80 remain, they got elected in 2017 with support leave manifesto and a few months ago the Tories voted by a big majority to appoint leaver Boris PM. Its pretty obvious the way the grassroots Tories want to go. Clarke should remember its for MPs to deliver what is voted for not for grassroots Tories to follow Clarke because he doesn't want to leave.
The voters also voted for no deal is better than a bad deal. So i guess it means they all got conned and now they need to vote brexit party
This whole whipping thing shouldn't even exist. MPs have to be free to vote the way they want. That's why they are directly elected.
What do people vote for - the person or the party?
Parliament stinks or I should say stunk when it last sat, those elected representatives who chose not to honor the democratic vote are, what ever they say, traitors,
WHAT A LINE UP
They like a line up their nose in Parliament pub
Lots of words cascade out of mr Duncan-Smith, and he smiles?
"If you think I'm right-wing, you should meet this guy!"- Norman Tebbitt on IDS, Chingford, 1992
Why did parliament and country reach the state we are in , what have these pair ever contributed other than telling us what is wrong.,
We need strong leadership, regenerate parliament clear the rotten and deadwood . Action ,no more bullshit , Vote brexit
Journalist seems to be good friends with the politicians
I didn’t realise ken Clarke was so simplistic. Suggesting that labour are for the working class. They are for no one so much evidence past and present to prove that. Dictatorship, oppression and poverty delivered by socialist government time and time again. It surprises me him being ignorant of the outrage people have felt towards the result of the referendum being side lined, I am shocked at him suggesting that it’s wrong to translate the sharp divergence between the views on the EU and democracy, between the electorate and parliament, being polar opposite and flippant disregard respectively has lead to an election based on parliament versus people. He is obviously wrong to portray Margaret thatcher as being so different from the current view,. M.Thatcher, as he said, was against the political aspect of the EU. That is the same, not different from the view expressed through the referendum. He seems amazingly sanguine to the threat of creeping socialism. I guess Ken Clarke’s retirement is timely. Maybe like other MPs he will gain some clarity from being outside looking in. Many inside parliament have such a different view from the people outside parliament.
Either Ken is carrying a concealed weapon in his pants or he's enjoying this interview a little too much
It's called fat.
Remainers , let them remain in the E.U. in person
In a similar vein why are all the leave voters still here?
I was thinking about politicians not doing the will of the majority
@Albert Pike And leave voters voted to leave so why are you still here?
@Albert Pike Ironically? LoL! Look, just stop pissing about and get your bags packed!
@Albert Pike OK I won't act like a moron and start planning my future in one of the 27 states. Thanks for the advice. Now, there's a fleet of Sunshine coaches doing the rounds picking your lot up and dropping off at the nearest beach. Don't forget your toothbrush!
bye bye ken - you were a poor MP for the people of Rushcliffe hope your replacement is not given such a free ride
IDS appears to have a Patek Philip Calatrava on his wrist (Approx £70000!!!). No wonder he thinks the rich should be looked after before everyone else?
If you're retiring from politics I guess you don't need to do up your flies.
That is caused by alcohol. And dementia.
Excellent piece, enjoyed watching that.
Ken Clarke sits next to Duncan-Smith and says the Tories have a social conscience. 😂🤣😂
What is your point? Ian Duncan Smith resigned from Cameron's cabinet because of what he considered excessive cuts in public spending. Perhaps you prefer the Labourt option of throwing money at anyone who claims they need it so long as they do nothing and dont work
why has Ken Clarke decided to do the entire interview with his flys down?
open society
@David Lawrence Well, if it is George Soros, expect the biggest knob ever..lol
Time n tide waits for no man , these people never changed, the most of us. did. The rest will have to.
funny, isn't it, how, at 23 minutes, they laugh openly about the "remote" idea that the Brexit party will do well?
Calling it a general election is in fact a means to distract people from brexit, where politicians make obfuscations like promises!!!! Stick to the one important issue leave or remain!!!!
and get brexit and remain a pleb
Ken Clarke's flies are undone!
Where's the fucking block button!?
Good may it dissolve with grace.
Crash bang wallop, describes Ian Duncan Smith quite nicely 😊
Tories and Labour tearing their self’s apart.
we have had new labour under Blair it seems we may have new conservative under Boris.
the conservatives are either lying about investing in certain public services or they have had an ephiphany on the road to damascus(brexit). i hope they can answer the qustion they always demanded of Labour "where's the money coming from? tax rises?
To give rebel Tories the whip . Back and allow them to stand in next election is sheer folly.we will not forget the traitors on election day
There are good Tories and there are bad Tories..................They should split.
Brexit isn't tearing the Tory Party apart, but it is doing untold damage to Labour.
lol sure
Yeah yeah....!
@@jubsaddinger9004 that's what Labour are doing - denying the facts
@@ep4360 yeah.
Clark's brain, shrunk and is not firing on all cylinders anymore.
Combined often with slurred speech and stuttering, well indicate the fact.
Well at least he is not asking to be dead in a ditch.
He was doing that in the 80s. Always loved a 'little' tipple.
@blackdogbarking
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I disagree about UK needing a say british people would be much safer with its economic affairs in the hands of foreign politicians. With our bogus democracy delivering idiots like boris and truss with a huge majority, I would be much happier knowing that other sensible folk who bother to vote had chosen the economic experts
Brexit it tearing the UK apart.....
I like these two. Great video. Affability in motion.
EU is a peace project
Go on, get the deal ratified and disintegrate the UK!
Hope Scotland gets her independence soon!
They new what they were doing so be it
here ken ids crippled the country