Where do libertarians stand on the campus wars? | Reason Roundtable | April 29, 2024

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Peter Suderman assess the spate of anti-Israel campus protests at universities across the country, followed by another look at the trials of both Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump in New York.
    00:00 - Campus protests across the country
    31:35 - Weekly Listener Question
    38:01 - Harvey Weinstein rape conviction overturned in New York
    44:01 - Trump trials continue apace
    48:57 - This week's cultural recommendations
    Mentioned in this podcast:
    "Why Are College Kids Terrified?" a Q&A with Greg Lukianoff and Rikki Schlott by Nick Gillespie
    "'Is College 'The Incubator of the Nanny State'? Nick Gillespie Talks with FIRE"
    "Animal Farm 1970," by Lanny Friedlander
    "Seriousness Crisis," by Liz Wolfe
    "School's Out," by Christian Britschgi
    "Texas Public Colleges Crack Down on Peaceful Anti-Israel Protests," by Emma Camp
    "The Morningside Heights Tent City," by Liz Wolfe
    "USC Cancels Valedictorian's Speech Over Bogus 'Safety Concerns,'" by Emma Camp
    "There's Nothing Modern About MMT," by Alexander William Salter
    "The Fiscal Hawks Were Right About Debt and Interest Rates," by Veronique de Rugy
    "Why We Need To Shrink the National Debt, and Fast!" by Nick Gillespie
    "Want To Boost Economic Growth? Tell the Government To Spend Less," by Veronique de Rugy
    "Thanks for Democracy, Greece, but Don't Let the Door Hit You on the Way Out of 1st World!" by Nick Gillespie
    "The Court Was Right To Overturn Harvey Weinstein's Rape Conviction," by Billy Binion
    "Alvin Bragg's 'Election Interference' Narrative Is Nonsensical," by Jacob Sullum
    "The Alarming Implications of Trump's Immunity Claim," by Jacob Sullum
    "At Trump's Trial, a Window Into the Golden Era of Tabloids," by Michael Rothfeld
    "Challengers Is the Horny Tennis Movie Hollywood Needs," by Peter Suderman
    "Anarchy, State and Utopia," by Eric Mack
    Send your questions to roundtable@reason.com. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.
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Комментарии • 249

  • @thatwasinteresting3319
    @thatwasinteresting3319 Месяц назад +13

    Here is a way to solve this. Allow the students who were kept from attending classes and graduating be allowed to sue the universities for breeches of contract. You should be allowed to protest ( although I guarantee that most of these “protesters” know very little about this conflict.) but you should not be allowed to disrupt other people’s lives. Just like the asshats that block traffic.

  • @sanniepstein4835
    @sanniepstein4835 Месяц назад +52

    Follow the funding. Foreign governments should not be able to buy influence at our institutions.
    Those institutions shouldn't be state funded in the first place, of course.

    • @arkansaslibertarian5051
      @arkansaslibertarian5051 Месяц назад +2

      💯

    • @bilybak2
      @bilybak2 Месяц назад +5

      You mean AIPAC?

    • @doesntmatter4136
      @doesntmatter4136 Месяц назад

      @@bilybak2 lol

    • @Stumashedpotatoes
      @Stumashedpotatoes Месяц назад

      @@bilybak2no because AIPAC doesn’t fund the universities

    • @youarenotme01
      @youarenotme01 Месяц назад

      Nope, not at all, not even close. Follow the money is a low IQ assessment. Begin again, from the beginning and you, and everyone will come to the same answer.

  • @JackVz
    @JackVz Месяц назад +12

    I love it tbh. They've lost control of the monster they've created. That's kinda what you get for being sweet on marxism.

  • @michaellowe3665
    @michaellowe3665 Месяц назад +6

    Just take away all government funding for universities and let them make their own rules

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit Месяц назад +29

    I don't see why this is such a hard issue to solve. They have rules governing camping on school property, just enforce those rules. The idea that as soon as someone says they are "protesting" that all laws and rules no longer apply is a huge stretch of the idea of free speech.

    • @billstrasburg384
      @billstrasburg384 Месяц назад

      The schools all promote Marxist causes. The professional protesters which may be Soros- or CCP- or even CIA-funded are aligned with the colleges. The colleges have to PRETEND to not like them.

    • @bellowingsilence
      @bellowingsilence Месяц назад +1

      I agree overall, but this also deals with *freedom of assembly.* And while I also feel that laws and rules still apply there, whether those rules should go so far as to inhibit assembly for protest, in a public space, starts to get into contested areas.

    • @Hedgehobbit
      @Hedgehobbit Месяц назад +3

      @@bellowingsilence In the First Amendment, freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble are two separate rights but they have sort of merged over the years.
      IMO, if you can't do something (such as camp out on private property) when you aren't protesting, you shouldn't be able to do it just because you are protesting. Otherwise, you can just claim to be protesting 24/7/365 and never have to obey various laws.
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but the land that these protesters are camping on is private property so the owners of that land (i.e. the University) should have the right to tell them to leave.

    • @user-wl2xl5hm7k
      @user-wl2xl5hm7k Месяц назад +1

      @@Hedgehobbit 1st Amendment legally restricts only government actors:
      *But they’re the free speech standard everyone must reach for!!*

    • @susanjones7734
      @susanjones7734 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@HedgehobbitExactly. You have the right to peacefully protest. Preventing other people from going about their business and blocking traffic is not okay. After awhile, this just turns into a big party and an excuse for the students to not attend classes. I’ve seen reporters ask these students questions about what they are protesting about and many of them don’t even know.

  • @JPJ432
    @JPJ432 Месяц назад +10

    Here is an example of kinship that America use to have with its greatest ally back in the day.
    I think you will enjoy this quote from the Russian Foreign Minister Alexander Gorchakov writing to Lincoln in the Autumn of 1862 a year and a half into the war-
    "You know that the government of United States has few friends among the Powers. England rejoices over what is happening to you; she longs and prays for your overthrow. France is less actively hostile; her interests would be less affected by the result; but she is not unwilling to see it. She is not your friend. Your situation is getting worse and worse. The chances of preserving the Union are growing more desperate. Can nothing be done to stop this dreadful war? The hope of reunion is growing less and less, and I wish to impress upon your government that the separation, which I fear must come, will be considered by Russia as one of the greatest misfortunes. Russia alone, has stood by you from the first, and will continue to stand by you. We are very, very anxious that some means should be adopted-that any course should be pursued-which will prevent the division which now seems inevitable. One separation will be followed by another; you will break into fragments."

    • @JPJ432
      @JPJ432 Месяц назад +4

      Here is another quote I think you will like but from Tsar Alexander II in an Interview after the war:
      "In the Autumn of 1862, the governments of France and Great Britain proposed to Russia, in a formal but not in an official way, the joint recognition by European powers of the independence of the Confederate States of America. My immediate answer was: "I will not cooperate in such action; and I will not acquiesce. On the contrary, I shall accept the recognition of the independence of the Confederate States by France and Great Britain as a casus belli for Russia. And in order that the governments of France and Great Britain may understand that this is no idle threat; I will send a Pacific fleet to San Francisco and an Atlantic fleet to New York."

  • @Ayo22210
    @Ayo22210 Месяц назад +2

    Their endowments shouldn’t be tax free, if they are tax exempt.

  • @milo8425
    @milo8425 Месяц назад +6

    First question a libertarian should ask: "are they commies?"
    Wait; David seriously doesn't think this is downstream of Marcuse and Fanon? Seriously? No wonder he's always off mark. Holy cow dude. Come ON dude. Revisit the sources, it's not only obvious it's explicit.

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Месяц назад

      This. "No friends on the Left."

    • @maxwoodbridge1264
      @maxwoodbridge1264 Месяц назад +1

      I agree. The openly marxoid students and faculty certainly believw and proclaim that they are doing this in service of the ideology !!

  • @jub8891
    @jub8891 Месяц назад +10

    perpetuating division 101.. step 1. "forcing them to pick a side"..

    • @ScottCleve33
      @ScottCleve33 Месяц назад

      Step 2. "Find out what the majority supports and support the opposite and demonize the masses".
      If 65 or 75 percent of the people support side A then throw your weight behind side B with propaganda and misinformation. The goal isn't for one side or the other to win but to create and stoke the fires of conflict between the two sides. To the people who want division that is a the ultimate win. There is a political party in this country that would support anything as long as it's opposed the the majority.

  • @Jinkaza1882
    @Jinkaza1882 Месяц назад +23

    Protest is protest. As long as it is peaceful I see it as a good thing. Don't like the protestor's reasons? Counter-protest.

    • @billstrasburg384
      @billstrasburg384 Месяц назад

      It's not a good thing when it is funded by anti-Freedom institutions like the Soros foundation, the Chinese Communist Party, and the militant Islamic propagandist organizations.
      These are professional protesters in addition to brainwashed students trained in Marxist thought. They are the people who wish the eradication of all Libertarian and individualist thought.

    • @neilranson4185
      @neilranson4185 Месяц назад +6

      I agree the freedom to protest is a cornerstone of stone of the west but where is the line drawn to prohibit that when it’s on private grounds, preventing the freedom of many to take part in paid for lessons and general encroaches on the freedoms of other pupils to go about their daily uni life. Theres no easy arnswer here

    • @Individual_Lives_Matter
      @Individual_Lives_Matter Месяц назад

      These kids are pushing people out of areas they have no say over and demanding things they have no right to, on private property.

    • @Individual_Lives_Matter
      @Individual_Lives_Matter Месяц назад +2

      @@neilranson4185I saw a video where they were pushing a student away from the building and saying “get him out of here”. It was pretty bad.

    • @neilranson4185
      @neilranson4185 Месяц назад

      @@Individual_Lives_Matter hard to know with videos that pick up half way through but I get your point it’s gotten out of hand clearly

  • @patriciastauffer3278
    @patriciastauffer3278 Месяц назад +1

    Nick: Something I have not seen addressed but is really starting to burn my hide as a taxpayer and a long time Libertarian. First the politicians pass an unconstitutional law. Ok, Every dog is allowed one bite. Then they pass another law or an even more egregious violation of the Constitution out of political dogma or plain spite and it gets taken to the courts again. Now, here is my problem, I am not a rich man, I cannot contribute to every organization I agree with, but when I can I try to help those who work to keep us free of gov. intrusion.
    My tax dollars on the other hand are going toward not only making these noxious laws, but also defending them in court against my best interest and then recycling the mess at political whims and taxpayer expense. Shouldn't this expense come from the politicians themselves or the parties they serve rather than the taxpayers?

  • @aaronr5675
    @aaronr5675 Месяц назад +15

    So long as protesting doesn’t impede on students rights to attend school I’m all for it.

    • @neilranson4185
      @neilranson4185 Месяц назад +3

      Haven’t the rights been impeded now with all classes being cancelled and daily uni life completely overturned at the expense of the majority’s rights?

    • @aaronr5675
      @aaronr5675 Месяц назад +5

      @@neilranson4185 yeah like I said if no one’s rights have been impeded I’m all for it. Once classes are cancelled I’m not for it.

    • @neilranson4185
      @neilranson4185 Месяц назад +2

      @@aaronr5675 I understand, yeah same here. I clash a lot with friends when we both hate curtain speak such as anti west Islamist or far left deconstruction. They want it banned and see me supporting it as somehow being for their views or helping them. It’s a tough place to be in the free speak camp

  • @ArjayMartin
    @ArjayMartin Месяц назад +8

    The stance is that all people should be able to peacefully voice their opinions in a non disruptive manner. I just saved y'all more than 1 hour of your life. You're welcome.

  • @RyuBateson218
    @RyuBateson218 Месяц назад +5

    It's nice to see that coloring your hair purple without losing your brains is still possible.

    • @snoopyboobs
      @snoopyboobs Месяц назад +1

      The exception that proves the rule?

  • @Kodiie
    @Kodiie Месяц назад +4

    On the sidewalk on a recliner chair with a beer and a bag of popcorn.

  • @RoyArrowood
    @RoyArrowood Месяц назад +28

    I'm a libertarian and I dgaf

    • @seanfager8063
      @seanfager8063 Месяц назад +7

      Thank you. "I don't have an opinion, and don't feel compelled to form one" is an underappreciated stance, especially for Libertarian leaning folks.
      The amount of time available to us is insufficient to track and assess everything, even just every genuinely important thing. No one can be a net gain if they're spread infinitely thin.

    • @infinitemonkey917
      @infinitemonkey917 Месяц назад

      If you were a "libertarian" you would believe in their right to protest, regardless of whether or not you agree with them. The fact that you dgaf means you are a hack, like most "libertarians." Yall only believe in liberty for what you agree with.

    • @infinitemonkey917
      @infinitemonkey917 Месяц назад

      If you were a true "libertarian" you would agree with their right to protest, whether or not you agree with them. Y'all only want liberty for what you agree with.

    • @infinitemonkey917
      @infinitemonkey917 Месяц назад

      If you were a true "libertarian" you would agree with their right, whether or not you agree with them. Y'all only want liberty for what you agree with.

    • @infinitemonkey917
      @infinitemonkey917 Месяц назад

      If you were a true "libertarian" you would agree with their right, whether or not you agree with them. Y'all only want liberty for what you agree with.

  • @adtastic1533
    @adtastic1533 Месяц назад +2

    Protest is fine but you shouldn't be able to close down college campuses, bridges, highways or destroy priceless works if art. That constitutes harassment of others and should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.

  • @josephmoore4764
    @josephmoore4764 Месяц назад +1

    They should be protesting something closer to home

  • @charlesmichaelhunt9935
    @charlesmichaelhunt9935 Месяц назад +1

    From Brian Barry's excellent 1975 review of Anarchy, State and Utopia:
    "The book's conclusions are not in the least unusual. They articulate
    the prejudices of the average owner of a filling station in a small town in
    the Midwest who enjoys grousing about paying taxes and having to
    contribute to "welfare scroungers" and who regards as wicked any
    attempts to interfere with contracts, in the interests, for example, of equal
    opportunity or anti-discrimination. There will be nothing unfamiliar in the
    conclusions of the book to those who have read their William F. Buckley
    or their Senator Goldwater or have ever paid attention to the output of
    the more or less batty crusades and campaigns financed by wealthy Texans
    and Californians. The only thing that is new is that these views are being
    expressed by someone who is a Professor of Philosophy at Harvard."
    "the intellectual texture is of a sort of cuteness that would be wearing in a graduate student
    and seems to me quite indecent in someone who, from the lofty heights of a professorial chair, is proposing to starve or humiliate ten percent or so of
    his fellow citizens (if he recognizes the word) by eliminating all transfer
    payments through the state, leaving the sick, the old, the disabled, the
    mothers with young children and no breadwinner, and so on, to the tender
    mercies of private charity, given at the whim and pleasure of the donors
    and on any terms that they choose to impose."
    "Nozick's vision of "utopia" as a situation in which advantaged reinforce
    their advantages by moving into independent jurisdictions, leaving the
    poor and disadvantaged to fend for themselves, could be regarded as the
    work of a master satirist, since it is in fact merely the logical extension of
    pathologically divisive processes already well-established in the United
    States: the flight of the middle classes to the suburbs while the inner city
    decays from lack of resources, and the growth of "planned communities"
    for the wealthy aged and other specially selected groups who are able to
    shed much of the usual social overhead. Unfortunately, there is no sign
    that Nozick, jokiness personified in other respects, sees this particular
    joke, but, thanks to the direction given to public policy by Nixon and
    Ford and their Supreme Court, the American people have an increasing
    opportunity to enjoy the joke personally."

  • @plowe6751
    @plowe6751 Месяц назад +3

    Run for it, Marty! Who? Who? Who do you think? The Libertarians!

  • @Reis____
    @Reis____ Месяц назад +5

    The bandaid was annoying lol

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Месяц назад +1

      Somewhere in an alternate universe, he didn't wear the band-aid and you left a comment that the blood was annoying

    • @Reis____
      @Reis____ Месяц назад

      Haha how dare he cut his chin

  • @PossumKommander
    @PossumKommander Месяц назад +1

    If they want to protest, let them protest somewhere else. Tuition there is absurd, and I know there are some people who will have to repeat courses because of the protests.

  • @DeathRayGraphics
    @DeathRayGraphics Месяц назад +5

    What is “truly horrible” about pointing out Israel’s enormities, or that America should not have to pay for them?

    • @nilskp
      @nilskp Месяц назад

      Nothing. It's made up lies.

  • @spetty3736
    @spetty3736 Месяц назад +2

    It's so weird hearing Matt's voice out of the context of the 5th Column lol I keep waiting for Michael Moynihan to interrupt

  • @Rickpa
    @Rickpa Месяц назад

    Thanks

  • @joshuaberry1329
    @joshuaberry1329 Месяц назад +9

    It's simple. As long as the protesters are students at that university and aren't being violent, stopping other students from going to class, destroying property, harassing people by getting in other students faces, or otherwise they have freedom of speech. I personally feel like it is absolutely none of our business what is going on overseas and these people protesting are idiots. Personally as a Christian I feel Isreal should protect itself from hamas however it deems necessary but again none of my business.

    • @jonathanevenboer
      @jonathanevenboer Месяц назад +1

      Exactly. Was hoping to see this type of response. I do agree with the point (made by Ms. Mangu-Ward iirc) that if the school has particular extant rules about encampments on campuses, protestors should expect those rules to be enforced. I think that's the only thing I'd add to your list of exceptions to turning a blind eye.
      As to whether or not Israel should "protect itself from Hamas how ever it deems necessary"... Keeping in mind I'm saying this as an atheist who was raised as a Christian, converted to Islam for a while, and has some Jewish heritage... I think Israel is going too far and is punishing all Palestinians because of Hamas. I'm against the humanitarian crisis going on over there. It's not the war of the citizens caught in the crossfire in Gaza, who are now being deprived of basics like food, water, and aid. I also disapprove of Israel's seeming expansion of the conflict/war to other countries, too. If this becomes a regional war, with the potential for larger global war, it will end up being our business whether we like it or not. That's the problem with "however it deems necessary"; if Israel decides the only way it can adequately protect itself is by setting off WWIII, it's everybody's problem.
      I definitely think it's America's responsibility to facilitate diplomacy (peace is probably to much to ask for) and slow this conflict tf down. We shouldn't be involved in any military capacity though.

    • @nilskp
      @nilskp Месяц назад

      Do you have an opinion on what the Palestinians (including the Christians) should do to protect themselves from Israel?

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 20 часов назад

      @@nilskp They can move to one of the many, many countries invaded and taken over by Arab muslims. Perhaps they could demand that the original Christian/Buddhist/Hindu etc religions be revived.

  • @ProgressiveLiberty
    @ProgressiveLiberty Месяц назад +2

    I suppose the beautiful Passover Seder that the protesters put on campuses nationwide went unnoticed by reason staff. This coverage was very disappointing, the staff did not seem as prepared as they normally are and seemed to be working only off of right wing talking points. There is a wealth of eyewitness firsthand, reporting with video on the scene on RUclips and elsewhere online that they didn’t seem to want to review prior to their remarks.

  • @iampdv
    @iampdv Месяц назад +3

    5:00 ish (points on Foucault). Partly the repeated references to Foucault and partly my interest in epistemology have caused me to read him a bit, and I did not see either how his writings lead to what is ascribed to him. But then I have found some interviews with him, and these are more calling for action.

    • @mestiza1988
      @mestiza1988 Месяц назад +1

      I agree. I think it is less about Foucault’s actual writings and more about the application of Foucault to everything under the sun. There is a lot of subpar scholarship in academic journals implicating Foucault in the absurdity of academia. I just narrowly escaped grad school with my brain intact because of all this stuff. By the end of my first year I was sick to death of hearing about Foucault. There is almost a religious obsession with him.

  • @mjpich
    @mjpich Месяц назад +1

    five minutes in, born in the 60's my ass.
    the Greeks wailed on this.
    love you guys
    need update on kmw patella, please.

  • @jaewok5G
    @jaewok5G Месяц назад +2

    i watch this just for nick's sublime snark …

  • @martinrheaume5393
    @martinrheaume5393 Месяц назад +1

    Pretty sure they know what "go back to Poland" means.

  • @songster7
    @songster7 Месяц назад

    Nozick was a gem indeed. I had the pleasure of knowing him a bit and serving with him on the LPM(A) delegation to the 1975 natcon, where we actually considered dumping our POTUS candidate for refusing to accept the convention's initial VP choice ...

  • @danielhopkins296
    @danielhopkins296 Месяц назад

    The one dud with the Peppermint Patty hairdo is completely ridiculous

  • @skitzrv9773
    @skitzrv9773 Месяц назад +3

    Get a permit, protest all you want, be peaceful. Take over a public space or highway, harass or intimidate or threaten, go directly to jail, get expelled from school. There has to be serious consequences for really bad behavior, breaking the law.

  • @HarveyDangerLurker
    @HarveyDangerLurker Месяц назад +6

    This is why libertarians (Reason style) will never be taken seriously. It isn't the speech that is the problem, it is the encampments that is the problem. I've seen the videos of protestors impeding free movement of other students. You guys always miss the point.

    • @Individual_Lives_Matter
      @Individual_Lives_Matter Месяц назад +1

      Even worse. I’ve seen them physically move students out of areas. It’s not just a protest anymore.

  • @iampdv
    @iampdv Месяц назад +1

    Judging by the lack of recent complaints about "Tasty, full stop" in Russian media, they are neither worse bor more expensive than Macdonald's. Besides, Macdonald's in Russia was always quite a lot cheaper than in the West.

  • @jacobstamm
    @jacobstamm Месяц назад

    Every time the gentleman on the top left goes for levity, it just falls flat for me.

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад

    Trying to understand the algorithm removing my Tim Dillion joke.

  • @Lopfff
    @Lopfff Месяц назад +1

    Elliot Gould as Ironman 100%. I love EG, hate superhero movies, but 100% agree

  • @bekahgwen4984
    @bekahgwen4984 Месяц назад +4

    In my experience, students are very aware of what they are protesting, and most communicate it very clearly.

  • @gefiltefist2088
    @gefiltefist2088 Месяц назад

    “Wherever we want mom. Geez.”

  • @Phier554
    @Phier554 Месяц назад +1

    Against communism and Islam for the same reasons imo.

  • @snorkus4790
    @snorkus4790 Месяц назад +2

    Up wind.

  • @PaulDodd
    @PaulDodd Месяц назад

    Katherine, how do you feel about the “defund hell” movement though? 41:00

  • @direwolf6234
    @direwolf6234 28 дней назад

    however the growth of the american economy disproves the point that spending reduces growth ...

  • @BS-vx8dg
    @BS-vx8dg Месяц назад

    Nick is now 60 years old. Can that still be his actual natural hair?

  • @hpmoon
    @hpmoon Месяц назад

    43:30 missed opportunity to say "Pulp Fiction"

  • @JonathanKajanga
    @JonathanKajanga Месяц назад

    Thank God almighty 🙄 there are still some rational, logical, sane, sound minded and neutral people on the issue of the recent rise in pro-Palestine protests on college campuses.
    I mean it really just sucks😒to what the mainstream media slightly side with the protests, despite that some of them can be a bit cringe and extremist.

  • @dariusThurman
    @dariusThurman Месяц назад

    Math is gonna kick everyones ass

  • @anthonyhunter6882
    @anthonyhunter6882 Месяц назад

    Meanwhile students are going to more bare bones academic programs to get their money’s worth

  • @RoyArrowood
    @RoyArrowood Месяц назад +2

    Who I wonder will be the libertarian candidate for president? 🤔

    • @barfo281
      @barfo281 Месяц назад

      Some fake libertarian, like they put up every election.

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Месяц назад

      Who cares.

    • @RoyArrowood
      @RoyArrowood Месяц назад

      @@CountArtha Libertarians I would think

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Месяц назад

    I have the answer: wherever they want!

  • @dravenlee4473
    @dravenlee4473 Месяц назад +3

    I draw the line at preventing others from doing something. Literally blocking students from entering the school because they are Jewish or calling for the death of them is obviously a step too far. If you are going to protest, do it peacefully. Don't infringe upon others. As we've seen though, these kids don't even know what they are protesting. They just want to be apart of something and feel good about themselves.

    • @zackerycooper1206
      @zackerycooper1206 Месяц назад

      The Tweet that says they were preventing Jewish students from entering shows students on the steps of a separate building, not the entrance to campus. It was a false narrative that anyone was being stopped from entering campus for ideology. Those who are being kept off campus are being kept off by the campus security because they don’t have university IDs.

  • @mjpich
    @mjpich Месяц назад +1

    well it's about time.
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  • @norahjaneeast5450
    @norahjaneeast5450 Месяц назад +1

    what you were saying about the the actors being jacked now and they didn't get crazy fit I would have to say Robert De Niro which was easy for him because he is a smaller man but I would say Christopher Reeve see images of Kim just before Superman not a great physical I would say a good example of someone from the early 80s William Hurt when he did Altar'd States he was real thin they put prosthetic muscles on him so that he could like a caveman or something you could probably say that Charles Bronson was quite physically fit which apparently was natural but you are right they figured out the whole getting people to look really jacked without the juice

  • @arkansaslibertarian5051
    @arkansaslibertarian5051 Месяц назад +9

    Prayers for the innocent civilians on both sides, don't send a penny to either!

  • @UserUser45654
    @UserUser45654 Месяц назад +2

    16:58 the exact opposite of the truth coming out of his mouth. It’s clear that the other three on the show don’t believe him. 😂

  • @Nemerson74
    @Nemerson74 Месяц назад

    11:15 unprecedented round table advance in technology.

  • @Giantcrabz
    @Giantcrabz Месяц назад +1

    where do libertarians stand on theocratic ethnostates like Israel?

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 4 дня назад

      Where do you stand on theocracies with diimmi status and creeping genocide for non-muslims?

  • @toddfulton2280
    @toddfulton2280 Месяц назад +5

    Your rights end where other people's rights begin. 1a isn't a shield to hide behind to allow you to block traffic, trespass, vandalize, proclaim membership of terrorist organizations, or assemble in public spaces without a permit.
    "Civil disobedience" just sounds like another way of saying "breaking the law."

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 Месяц назад +9

    Does no one distinguish between anti-semitism and anti-zionism?

    • @danporath536
      @danporath536 Месяц назад +1

      Mainstream media and Congress cannot do that because AIPAC has influence.

    • @toxictroll7843
      @toxictroll7843 Месяц назад +3

      don't ask the "reason" boomers, they are clueless

    • @anonymousbosch4512
      @anonymousbosch4512 Месяц назад +6

      Not really, when anti zionism is frequently used as a cover for anti semitism. When people make anti zionist protests outside synagogues. When anti zionist rhetoric skirts thr line of inciting violence against Israel and/or Jews. You have to expect that protests do not have a strict rhetorical style guide, so that line will be crossed every time this stuff happens

    • @danporath536
      @danporath536 Месяц назад +3

      @@anonymousbosch4512
      Speech is NOT violence, violence is violence.
      Violence and true threats are not constitutionally protected…speech is.

    • @glennmitchell9107
      @glennmitchell9107 Месяц назад

      @@anonymousbosch4512 My question wasn't for the protesters. I assume they are a mixed bag of half-educated college sophomores, radical professors, paid instigators, and federal agents.
      I am more concerned with the political analysts and commenters, both in the establishment media and in the blogosphere. Nuance and precision are missing. It's propaganda all the way down and sideways.

  • @scotsway1
    @scotsway1 27 дней назад

    I find Libertarians very disappointing on this. They should unequivocally support the protesters.

  • @jameslane2326
    @jameslane2326 Месяц назад +3

    are you guys receiving funding from Aipac? wouldn't surprise me if you were based on this podcast.

  • @bilybak2
    @bilybak2 Месяц назад +6

    I love that libertarians are pro free speech only if it fits their opinions

    • @bellowingsilence
      @bellowingsilence Месяц назад +3

      I mean, that isn’t necessarily true of *all* libertarians, and I tend to find there’s people like that across the political spectrum. But yeah, it is extra hypocritical coming from them. Overall, it just goes to highlight the importance of our bill of rights and having a spirit of free speech in this country.

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Месяц назад +2

      I don't know where you got that idea, especially in light of what Mangu said at 14:02 .

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад

    Tim Dillion test

  • @LabelsAreMeaningless
    @LabelsAreMeaningless Месяц назад +11

    While I agree with there being a problem with Marxism and Identity politics in schools, I'm honestly amazed that you're pointing to this specific protest as tied to that. I am firmly opposed to Marxism, Identity politics (which actually creates racism and doesn't combat it), Post Modernism and all of those things, yet I also think it's very very beyond wrong to mass slaughter civilian elders, women and children. There is no anti-war movement ever who would not be standing right where these protestors are.
    If you want to point to the BLM riots or the culture war overall, then fine you have a point; but for cripes sake this is the first cause I've seen that is actually standing against something real and not a product of an Ideological lens.
    Name one thing worse than mass murder of innocents on the basis of their race and the land they live on, just one thing. People don't seem to comprehend that there is nothing possible to do which would be worse than that. They act like it's no big deal...why? how? Imagine if that was being done to people living within a US state. Would it be ok simply because you don't like those people? They're human beings and no, they are not terrorists, they are not military targets.
    If you want to talk about the issues of the schools and the toxic teachings going on, feel free..but do not list these particular protests as a symptom.

    • @LEGObiWanKenobi
      @LEGObiWanKenobi Месяц назад +2

      Nailed it. Was generally shocked at their analysis of the protests

    • @matthewjohnston1400
      @matthewjohnston1400 Месяц назад +3

      It’s not an anti-war movement if you’re supporting the right on one side to commit acts of violence while condemning the other side for retaliating to this violence. You can decide for yourself which side is the aggressor. I think my point stands either way.

    • @LEGObiWanKenobi
      @LEGObiWanKenobi Месяц назад +1

      @@matthewjohnston1400 so wanting a ceasefire and the end to the slaughtering of civilians isn’t anti war? Got it

    • @JackVz
      @JackVz Месяц назад +3

      They aren't anti war. They''re picking sides.

    • @matthewjohnston1400
      @matthewjohnston1400 Месяц назад

      @@LEGObiWanKenobi hundreds of thousands of people across the globe took to the streets after the attack of Oct 7th, prior to Israel’s retaliation. They were essentially celebrating the success of the attack. They are not now calling for a ceasefire in the interests of peace. Peace with Israel is not what “from the river to the sea” implies. They are calling for a ceasefire so that Hamas can regroup and attack again as it has done for almost 80 years. They don’t believe Israel has a right to exist, perhaps it doesn’t, but peace, we know for certain, is not what they want.

  • @danielmoody3640
    @danielmoody3640 Месяц назад

    Since when are we supposed to take Libertarians seriously? LMAO!! What a joke of an ideology.

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад +2

    They need to include some libertarians in this discussion. You know, people who are anti-war, anti-ethnic cleansing, who are suspect about funding other countries, who think that speech and protests are legitimate means of expressing anger at their country funding ethnic:cleaning and war and don’t fall for tropes and media framing.

  • @tipperzack
    @tipperzack Месяц назад +13

    Why call protest at colleges "Campus Wars"?
    Your tainting the discussion from the gate.

  • @avmail7097
    @avmail7097 Месяц назад

    its kind of alarming how sexy this group is

  • @UserUser45654
    @UserUser45654 Месяц назад +5

    Bizarre Neo-“Con” talking points. I guess when you fork over cash to Middle Aged journalists in a collapsing industry, they start sounding like The Bulwark.

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад

    Tim test

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад

    Dillion test

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад

    baby shot face test

  • @meandwhosearmy5680
    @meandwhosearmy5680 Месяц назад +5

    A libertarian standing with Israel would go against everything Libertarian but of course when Jews are the main topic everyone has to do mental gymnastics to make sure we keep our jobs.

    • @Individual_Lives_Matter
      @Individual_Lives_Matter Месяц назад

      What does not being for illegal “protests” have to do with standing with Israel? These kids are taking over universities. Not ok.

    • @Panax07
      @Panax07 Месяц назад

      Dont want the zionists to get us uninvited from 100$/plate dinners.

    • @susanjones7734
      @susanjones7734 Месяц назад

      I am not influenced by anything to do with jobs, but these universities have long forced out any professors that don’t agree with their stated narratives. They have indoctrinated these students so much that the students can’t even answer questions about why they’re protesting.

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 4 дня назад

      A libertarian standing with islam is in a far more absurd position.
      Please see Bill Warner or Robert Spencer on the history and ethos of islam.

    • @meandwhosearmy5680
      @meandwhosearmy5680 4 дня назад

      @@sanniepstein4835 "They don't hate us because we're free! They hate us because we're in their land!" - Ron Paul

  • @bryson8918
    @bryson8918 Месяц назад +2

    ZionistTV

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 20 часов назад

      Caliphate flunky. Is it the oil, the threat of violence, or the pdo approval?

  • @josephdunsay4360
    @josephdunsay4360 Месяц назад +4

    Protesters do not have the right to create a hostile environment for Jewish students.

    • @Panax07
      @Panax07 Месяц назад

      A good chunk of the protestors are jewish invluding jewish voice for peace.

  • @aaronday7537
    @aaronday7537 Месяц назад

    baby test

  • @JaeWhite140
    @JaeWhite140 Месяц назад +4

    Paid protesters by both political parties. 👍

  • @coleworld3061
    @coleworld3061 Месяц назад

    Respectfully, I find it difficult to stomach the use of black american identity and this countries terrible history as it relates to this community being used in comparison with peoples right to criticize and object to government and state policies as it relates to war peace and mass slaughter. This is not that issue. The cases of individuals being harmed or harassed because of their Jewish identity has been minimal. If you want to make a case that peoples political identity (Zionist) shouldn’t be attacked, villainized, or stereotyped then there’s a conversation o have. But stop making this about “the blacks” and “if this was the blacks”…… trust and believe when “the blacks” mobilize against state and government actions (uhhhh policing), all kinda of racist stereotypes are used against us

  • @Ayo22210
    @Ayo22210 Месяц назад

    Only libertarians are funny these days

  • @Panax07
    @Panax07 Месяц назад +3

    Anyone tell me if they mention:
    1) Israeli atrocities
    2) Palestinians
    3) Israel lobby
    4) US support for Israel

    • @nilskp
      @nilskp Месяц назад +1

      Shhh, don't let anyone know what the protests are actually about. But no, of course not

  • @BrokenForge
    @BrokenForge Месяц назад +4

    How would ReasonTV know anything about where libertarians stand on anything?

  • @brianburgess3231
    @brianburgess3231 Месяц назад +3

    like Trump?

    • @barfo281
      @barfo281 Месяц назад

      You mean Leftist Donnie?

    • @katrinaisalwayscorrect
      @katrinaisalwayscorrect Месяц назад +2

      Huh? Like Trump what?

    • @barfo281
      @barfo281 Месяц назад

      @@katrinaisalwayscorrect Like Donald Chump is a leftist clown.

  • @roaringlaughter3812
    @roaringlaughter3812 Месяц назад +1

    Politics in all its forms must be deleted from college.
    All colleges should ONLY be about Learning practical sciences or vocational stuff.
    If you want people to learn about politics you can reintroduce the whole “you can only vote if you have served” either through military or working in a government office where you are exposed to legislation in a practical manner.
    Most people dont know shit and only realize this around the age of 30.
    I see myself as a libertarian the smaller the government and the more de centralized government is the better

    • @CountArtha
      @CountArtha Месяц назад

      The most blue-pilled word in the English language is _"should."_ Objectivity is impossible. Viewpoint neutrality is impossible. If you hold back from imposing your values on an institution, you will quickly lose that institution to the people who didn't hold back.

  • @Hurgardet
    @Hurgardet Месяц назад +7

    Non libertarians have taken over Reason.

    • @andrewdimartino2663
      @andrewdimartino2663 Месяц назад +2

      says margaret thatcher who was not a libertarian

    • @Hurgardet
      @Hurgardet Месяц назад +1

      @@andrewdimartino2663 However she was a capitalist and a scientist. She deregulated British society.

  • @LFOD1776
    @LFOD1776 Месяц назад

    Where did reason stand on COVID. tells you everything you need to know.

  • @barfo281
    @barfo281 Месяц назад +8

    There were no libertarians in this video, though.

  • @Ayo22210
    @Ayo22210 Месяц назад

    Tech Ed at 2 year colleges should be the way forward, that encumbrances the trades.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_education#List_of_tech_ed_skills

  • @Ayo22210
    @Ayo22210 Месяц назад

    Libertarian modern monetary theory
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikideas1/sandbox#How_libertarian_MMT_would_be_applied

  • @Ayo22210
    @Ayo22210 Месяц назад

    ‘New-state solution’ is the answer.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution#New-state_solution