I really like when yall sail different boats and give your thoughts on them. That is probably not easy to get set up super often, but hearing opinions on different designs and layouts from yall is always enjoyable.
Way too many people are locked in on their "brand" on RUclips and never take a shot at unexpected in-betweens. I'm so glad you guys aren't just settling for just whatever would work and are really enjoying yourselves. I get a kick out of your adventures. Megan's mom is full-throttle wild!
As they say it's the journey not the destination. I agree these two tell the real story and tell it so well it's wonderful to watch their videos about all things life.
I think you should do more boat search videos. I know it can be a bit of a roller-coaster and sometimes ends in disappointment, but not filming that is kind of like not filming sailing when it gets rough and stormy! I think people like to join you on the roller coaster with all the twists and turns!
Outside of your boat buying journey, I have loved all your Australia and New Zealand adventures. What a beautiful part of the world. Thank you for continuing to share!
In my 50 years of experience, the best and cheapest way to sail is on OPBs (other people's boats). How about being crew on a transatlantic or transpacific voyage?
Hey The O’Kellys! I can’t believe you’re in my backyard! I live at Palm Beach in Queensland. Husband and I are in the middle of moving onto to our first catamaran currently. It’s a 36’ Crowther Voyager. We are weeks (maybe months) away from being live aboard for the first time. If you need anything while you’re in the area please get in touch. We would love to help out if we can. We have been following you both for years and you are a big inspiration to our liveaboard dreams. Warmly, Melissa.
Just going to throw this one at you for consideration. How about inland waterways. You can sail from the North Sea maybe start at Amsterdam sail via Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Hungry, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania. Then from the Black sea sail through the Mediterranean to the south of France and sail the rivers again back to the North Sea. Kind of sailing the world from the inside for a change.
I would even say just going down part of the USA intercoastal waterway would be really cool. It wouldn't be a truly inland waterway and I am not an expert but I would see that as a trial run of sorts to see if it would be enjoyable.
My wife and I met you two at Chat & Chill in Georgetown. We are the Nebre’s and our boat was Indigo Dawn. We have transitioned from the cruising life back to traveling in our Airstream for spring thru autumn. For winter we are doing Airbnb in the Southern Hemisphere and tropics. Happy to follow your adventures and see what to day brings you folks. Who knows our paths ma cross again on this wonderful planet of ours. Never stop the adventure ✌🏼❤️😎
Awesome times! Nick, I'm with you on the heights thing but so glad Megan could make those memories with her mom. And her mom is a badass! 😃 Whatever door you choose, even door number 5, it will be great because you'll be doing it together and hopefully sharing it with us.
@@TheOKellys how about building your own cat? yt ch MJ sailing is building a cat. Enjoy the journey you are on. The heavens know what direction you are suppose to go in now. The perfect Sailboat will come your way soon. ☘💚 Dont forget it's your lucky month!! 🍀🍀🇮🇪
Spent many hours sailing/racing F-27 and F-9 and mostly loved it. These are too small for extended cruising but great for a 2 week adventure here and there. Our solution to the the “flop” in a rolling anchorage was to hang a small sea anchor off one of the amas to greatly calm the motion. With boards up we had about 18” of draft so we could get into really protected waters or beach on a shallow bank where no one else could go. High sailing fun that can be trailered to any launch ramp and rigged in 1 hr.
Awesome times! Admire you for sticking to your decisions, plenty of time and it's great to see you up to things between boat adventures! It's all bound to work out eventually! Great to see where Megan gets it from!
Door 1 had some stuff onboard! Most tris owners tend to sail upwind like a mono owner (they sail high). In order to go high in a tri you have to go low, go fast, then come up..rinse and repeat the whole time low fast high ...going fast reduces the hobby horse effect. Too high = slow and pitching. Inflatable fenders under X1 ama can help reduce the teter tooter at anchor. Love your videos!
Door #3, the biking one. I think you’d enjoy it and make some fabulous videos. It seems like you’ve been given an opportunity to do something different from your bucket list. Take it! Go all in.
I love this didactic style with technical terms of art, clear explanations and supporting graphics. It's one of the main differences that drew me to your channel. I vote for door #3 while you're waiting (given the softening in the market finding your next home is getting more likely every day and it's a great way to have fun, keep busy and can be cost effective) ...but you missed the Netherlands in your list of great EU countries to bike in--it's the best in the world for biking by a km! :)
I was at the Boat Works on Friday and could not believe the number of catamarans on the hard.Used to be monohulls in the majority. We live on the Gold Coast and keep our small monohull at Runaway Bay. Enjoying your progress towards a new boat.
Thanks for the update. Another short term option I thought of while watching this would be for you two to buy a canal boat and cruise the canals of Europe. You could bring bicycles and bike the trails as well. Just a thought. I flew para-gliders for 15 years from Alaska to South America but I never had any interest in sky diving or bungee jumping either Nick. 🙂 Whatever you two decide to do I'm sure it will be interesting. Thanks for the video! Travel On!
Wow you did more things in that brief period than many people do in a lifetime ! Having friends with boats is like hiving good neighbours with a pool. Lots of benefit little hassle ( I do get to maintain it when they are on vacation 😎 lime green water anyone?). As you have many supportive followers you should have plenty of opportunities for trying out boats and destinations. Go for it. Would love to have you guys stay here if you ever decide on the lower Great Lakes as an adventure destination.
One thing you absolutely nail is the sense of foreboding/ caution concerning the global market. My crystal ball is saying the boat market / housing market will both experience some pretty significant deflation as people wake up to the fact that no-one is coming with 30-70% more than they paid. The question is, when can you catch that falling knife.
I have no crystal ball, but there is a lot of cash out there and a lot of people wanting a cat, so I don't see prices cratering unless things get really, really dire. However, I don't think many folks are willing to pay a 10-30% premium over 2020 prices. So for now, I see stagnation as sellers remain in denial. That will wear off. It always does. Always. There is a boat for sale right now that I am very familiar with...it was on the market for well over a year and sold at a 20% discount to ask in November 2022. The buyer decided it wasn't for them and put it on the market in January for 25% more than they paid. And of course it isn't selling. Holding costs will eventually sink in and they'll come to see the boat for what it is: a liability, not an investment. How long that takes? Don't know.
We liked bike touring so much we moved to France for a few years and rode around Europe. Loved everything about it. I sometimes take my bike on my little 35' Hanse and go on combo trips on the Australian East Coast.
I imagine when anchored u could just jam some inflatable under one of the floats to stop the teetering. But! Fast cruising mono is the real solution. Have no idea why u don’t buy a pogo. I would get 36 but there is a 44 for Americans who like to super size their soda. 😀 if u get an opportunity to try one please do, as I would be very interested to hear your take.
I’m honestly glad that you two aren’t looking for a new boat. While I’m happy for the channels that are waiting on their new boats, that’s not what I aspire to or can afford and I just can’t relate or learn anything from that experience. If I want to hear about the joys of shiny ✨new boats there are shows for that. …way more fun.
We just want you both to be comfortable and happy, whatever that looks like in the end. The universe already has a plan. Just keep on keeping on and you'll end up exactly where you're supposed to be. Peace guys!
The mode of travel isn't as important as the place you want to go. We would consider the experience we want to have and go from there. The bike tour sounds like fun, but so does sailing around in something less-ideal in an area you're interested in exploring. Thank you for keeping us updated on your adventure!
@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk no argument on the "getting there is half the fun" bit, but the actual "how" or "mode of travel" used to get from A to B is the unimportant part.
I’ll tell you. No jumping out of airplanes or bungee jumping. No way! I did love the zoo. That’s always fun. Take care and good luck finding the right boat. 👍❤️
Whoa, Nick, that sounded like a wholesale warning against all performance tris as side-to-side slappers. Yes the lovely Spirit behaves like that, as she was designed for one job, flat out racing for records across the Atlantic. By contrast a big percentage of the 35'-45' $150-$350kUSD performance cruising tris currently in service were designed by Chris White or Ian Farrier, and they do not behave like that. Raced a Chris White 44' in San Francisco today at 18kts, and it's a nice two bedroom, full height house with oven and shower down below that rests smoothly in a rolling anchorage. Just clarifying that MANY of the 15kt+ capable, live aboard-comfort-equipped tris do not do what you've warned of. Thx for giving Prophecy good air time; those folks seem to campaign that boat really well and they give us all good race summary videos ;)
Sounds like this is the trimaran version of bridgedeck slap…always a matter of degree. Also, methinks you put too much stock in my opinion. In the video we say this is only the third trimaran we’ve ever sailed on.
@@TheOKellys Ah, that’s a great point. Tri buyers beware, learn whether the boat slaps. More likely as they are built lighter. Much stock taken because it’s great how influential you guys have grown! People are listening to what the O’Kellys have to say about ocean multihulls. Good stuff all around.
If these were my choices, I would do the bike tour thru Europe - if you are physically capable now you can't assume you will be in the future. I was reminded of that after a bad ice skating fall that happened 2 months ago and I am still recovering from it. Last year we took the boys to Iceland and hiked so much every day my knee started giving out - made me realize we need to do these things while we can!
I'm with you. I can't see the point of stepping out of a perfectly good plane. Also, I don't have a desire to go bungee jumping, but I might like to try out that swing. That could be fun. I can see that a trimaran might be less comfortable than a monohull with the ama stopping the natural rolling motion.
One advantage of doing the bike tour is you can easily switch tacks if a sailboat comes on the market. If you do one of the other options you are more tied in both financially and physically.
Until I saw the inland waterways post below, here was my response... What a great idea in door #3, while you continue to look for the next boat. I would believe that if you go with a lesser boat that is not what you really want, every day on it you will still be thinking about the right boat, instead of getting on with it. If you do door #3, 100% look for bikes with rear suspension (not just front suspension). It will save you a good amount of aches and pains. My only concern for door #3 is that it would be more expensive then we might imagine. Since you can only carry a small amount of food with you, the best choice is light, camping-specific food, which is expensive. It will be that or eating out most every meal or a combo of the two, neither of which is cheap. And then there is the camping/hostel/friends/hotels decision, which also can get quite expensive, especially with a scenario like getting stuck for an extra week in a hotel because of bad weather and no other lodging options. EDIT AFTER INLAND WATERWAY IDEA: The inland waterways is quite intriguing. Aside from being comfortable enough to live aboard for short stretches, I guess it would have to be a small trawler/houseboat (no sails) OR a pocket cruiser with low draft or retractable keel/centerboard with a mast that can be easily lowered. I came across the balphamast system and mast tabernacles... ruclips.net/video/T0Jf-kgbrF4/видео.html Maybe take a look. And, you could have two bikes onboard and bike on out for land trips too. What fun!
Have a read of ‘The unlikely Voyage of Jack de Crow’ - this Aussie took a tiny mirror dingy from Wales to the Black Sea ( if I remember correctly). Might inspire 😀
Ballast bag filled with water on the boom moved side to side or one in an ama to stop the wobble. Rapido has some solutions too, but not see one in person. One cruising trimaran that is no longer offered had a ballast tank to take on water so anchoring was less wobbly and level. The tank could be used by the water maker so a partial tank could defoam the water underway and for other onboard systems that need air free water.
Well it's lovely to hope for a softening market, finding the right boat imo should be way higher priority. What if it comes along and prices haven't gone down yet...
This video was posted at a good time market is probably on the verge of a contraction. I’d say take a few months. I’m not sure when the sailboat market will contract but hopefully you guys will find a boat and a seller that will work for you! Good luck.
Option 3, the bike ride through Europe looks amazing and like it would be so much fun! It's coming into spring for Europe and the tulips in Holland are amazing around April/May❤
Lots of looper boats for sale, maybe a half loop while waiting for the BBD. Buy it at one end sell it at the other. Power boat due to height restrictions but still fun.
Saw a Schionning 1620 today, newly refitted and looked fab for what I could see. Dark blue hull and center boards. If Caan find it again, could be something to look at.😊
The set up with the trade off's most attractive to me would be have a "less is more" type place in the 3rd World(to keep expenses down), on land in the lower latitudes and 5000 ft to 8000 ft elevation so to have spring like weather year around. Then have a boat that is driving distance in no more than 10 hours from the above land base in a place that is a good cruising ground and is relatively less expensive to store and repair the boat. My objective for use of the boat is to not cross oceans but be comfortable and fun for two weeks or a month max once or twice a year(you can always book an airbnb for a night or two as needed to get off the boat and refresh). Places that come to mind that fit the above are : Mexico: Guadalajara or similar + Guaymas or similar on the Sea of Cortez or Puerta Vallarta . The Philippines has a couple nice towns at elevation with cooler summer temps and amazing cruising grounds. Guatemala: Antigua, Guatemala + Rio Dulce, Guatemala. Another similar set up with trade offs most attractive to me would be have a less is more house in Croatia or Montenegro or Greece that would allow me to moor or dock the boat right in front of the house. The winters in Croatia, Montenegro or Greece are not bad and you could always head south to Cyprus or Crete for example or work your way over to Tunis for the cold months. Another similar idea if you want your "less is more" land base in the States would be look for a place at elevation in Arizona like Flagstaff, Prescott or Sedona all of which have cool summers and are an easy drive to Guaymas on the Sea of Cortez. As you guys know well to find an affordable boat that is fast, fast in light wind, comfortable crossing oceans and well equipped to cross oceans is expensive. My approach is with the same budget spend a lot less on the boat and spend what is left over on a 3rd World, less is more land base. You can do the above very well and with in the budget spend some time at home in Oregon.
Glad to see that your lives are fraught with difficult choices , just like the rest of us. Equally pleased to see you enjoy the ride. The Grainger looked like a big day-sailer that could provide a lot of entertainment and get you back to shore in time for dinner. Did your host say who the builder was/is ? Why does it seem that the Aussies and the French are always a step ahead of the rest when it comes to go-fast boats? Thanks
You sold at the right time. Just got to have patience. The high dollar luxury item (boats) market will be easing as people will conserve cash. The only down side is interest rates.
You want performance? How about 30 knots? Ultra Long distance cruiser with no maintenance outside. Easily handled by a couple. Fantastic ride uphill. 3 bedrooms/3 heads More storage then you need. Massive freeze/reefer. Massive engine/tech room. Carry 2 dinghys. Faster then all your friends. Everyone will want to talk about the boat. Loads of entertainment space. Finest interior you have ever seen in a boat. Built in USA so you can charter. Great airflow with AC.
You loved those Chris White designs, I really do not, because they are not pretty boats at all, but have you ever considered Windelo 50 and 54 then? Those I love, my favorite boats for sure, which I would chose, if I got the money. The 50 got a base price of 800k Euro, which is of course a lot of money, but much is included, including lots of solar and an advanced hybrid drive. Those boats are also beautiful and really the top eco-friendly boat currently. The main difference between the Chris White and Windelo forward cockpit helm position is, that on the Chris White it is fully exposed and you have to go inside, if the sea gets rough and inside you do not even get a seat or anything else than a wheel! You have to get outside again, if you have to tweak anything in the sail plan. Windelo however have a lowered and protected helm in the forward cockpit, which can be enclosed to the bow in rough seas and you can still sit there comfortably and in really rough seas you can further enclose the inside living space with a massive sliding glass door. Unlike you I love Zoos. Sure, animals are created to live in the wild, but the thing is, so many animals are on the brink of extinction and zoos actually do much to maintain a healthy worldwide population of several species. I hate them old zoos, where the animals are kept in jail cells, but most modern zoos are very well designed and also with the health of the animals much in mind, for instance by giving them spaces, were they can escape to privacy at all times. Of zoos, that I have visited, which I sure can recommend, is the one in Fuengirola, Andalucia, Spain, which I have been in many times. That one is so beautiful, that it has won several architecture prices and actually features in many architecture books as well. Not a big zoo, but very pretty. The greatest zoo, that I have visited so far, however were on Phu Quoc Island, Vietnam. One of the newest and also most modern zoos in the world, designed to deliver open living habitat feel all the way through, including a safari bus trip through a savannah. It is the second biggest zoo in the world, only second to San Diego Zoo, which do also feature in many architecture books, by the way. The top experience were to handfeed the girafs though and also, comical, to poster on a photo with the most massive Asian man, that I have ever met and all his flying friends, and still one pelican played his bodyguard and actually bit my arm! They can bite surprisingly hard, I can report, but it was still funny! If you get a chance to go to that zoo though, go there in the early morning: At midday it gets unbearably hot in that place! I really had to drag myself out at midday, because I was on the brink of a heatstroke walking that big zoo in that climate, and I am quite a walker and also used to travel in tropical climates.
Please share this video far and wide!! There's usually another way and the O'Kelly Team give different perspectives and more. I always enjoy learning from them directly or just in thought comparison.
My suggestion to yo guys is go for the European rivers with one river boat.There are thousands of km waterways inside Europe load bicycles on the boat and be on water and on cycles in Europe
Fun video, as always! Just curious on what is the level/percentage of upkeep improvement on a boat you're considering. Is there a percentage, of total cost/value, or something equivalent you have to consider on a used boat? What New boat was courting you, if you could share, in comments? Look forward to see what's next, some year my dream is to visit Australia and or New Zealand. Wishing you the best, fair winds and following seas!
Clive Brown suggestion sounds good and when you think about traveling worldwide inland waterways you'll be doing videos mainly different from most sailing vids. Maybe on a 40' / 50' folding tri? Dunno but cutting the time across big waters seem more appealing to me.
I think the question I have is are you wishing you would of held on to the clarity a little longer? Something about floating everyday is a life changer when it's gone. I've been doing a lot of work on a boat and getting it updated for charters or for sale. Just being on the water every day is just a blessing. My latest IRUV forced air light purifier system I installed. Boy am I finding things that need to be done every time I open things up! But the boat is going to be so much better when I never finish 😊. 🎉
When the Rigging Fits Easy to Do and Your able to Walk in the Living area Throw up your Legs and it Feels like Home and Your King that’s the Boat🤙🏻🏴☠️
Hey sailors!, ChillyWilly here, I have to say there must be a similar chord running through liveaboard sailors as the choices you offered in the video, most I have done or considered, I have 8 years fulltiming in a rv under my belt, I have been looking for a cabin/house for off grid homesteading for a while and have been torn between this and the sailboat, unfortunately, Sam Bankman Fried stole a good chunk of my sailboat money and the cabin would be cheaper. I have also been considering a smaller powerboat or trawler for months at a time excursions to the Bahamas but we will see. The bicycles sounds potentially painful, and I have a golden retriever who goes everywhere with me, but anyway good luck in your search.
We are looking for a cat as well so we went and saw a Morrelli & Melvin 50ft performance catamaran in Anappolis MD. we could not help but think of you guys wen we got on it. It was a bit intimidating for us
Come sail with me on my Endeavour 42. You get to sail, and I get to tap into your knowledge, experience, and tag along for the fun filled adventure of your new(ish) boat search.
I really think Robert and I would watch you whatever you decide to do. We always get a big smile from your videos. That swing though? HELL NO. You and your mom are badasses!
I do think you need some sort of property in place (maybe off grid but not far from the real world) for when sailing is just not as physically possible. Yes you could do live aboard in a harbor but I think you will need something to go to when weather and such isn't cooperating - part time at least. Keep looking for the right boat, travel to all the land based places while you dont have the responsibilities of a boat pulling at you, but at the same time get things in place for the following twenty years after that stage of life.
Okay, how about a Quadramaran? Chances of capsizing: near zero. So much living space! On another note, come on, 97,000 subscribers! Mash that like button!
Hey Nick. I'm currently reading your living on the margin book. I noticed that you don't have a boat right now. And I've yet to see your weather videos. I'm thinking with a lack of boat projects you would have a little bit of time maybe.
Make hay when the sun shines….or in the case of the market opening shortly….when the storm clouds gather. Enjoy the book. Beware, you are swimming with sharks. Good luck.
#3 was fun during my early 20's, staying/partying in backpackers etc, but not in my 50's. My plan is leasing #2 as an Airbnb (base), while doing seasonal shorthand Island trips in #1 (or 4).
Maybe grab something in the South Pacific or Asia and get it into the Philippines, Thailand, or NZ for first refit and maybe the Cape zone of SoAfrica for 2nd refit? Arbitrage like you did with Clarity. I know you had some bad times the first time you looked at SoPac, but maybe with prices softening, something will arrive there that is workable for you. I get the feeling that hanging out trying to buy a good-value boat in Australia is like hanging out trying to buy a good-value boat in Ft Lauderdale... maybe worse. Or... buy in SoPac and flip in Oz, especially if it's not your dream boat. I'm not a big fan of flipping anything, but there seems to be a trend with SoAfrica and environs having low-cost, fix it, float it, and sell it high in Ft Lauderdale. And plenty of people seem to have a similar goal of buying low anywhere East and selling high in Australia. Other ideas would be Eastern Med / Eastern Europe (Greece, Croatia?) and get work done in Turkey at low cost. NZ and Oz are great to visit. NZ might have some arbitrage value (and great trades workers), but I'm not feeling it with Australia (prices of things there always struck me as high, I'm guessing due to taxes and import fees). I don't think you have to wait much longer for 'change' to come... there are signs of a soft-underbelly in banking getting ready to cause trouble in the markets. Your instincts to hold cash and be ready when a deal appears make sense. Maybe you need a 'gap year' boat.. something financially safe... to tide you over! :) All the best and hope you don't give up on boats!!
I watched today and found myself searching sites for catamarans I think the act of boat searching is a certified addiction even though I have a boat and I’m good I keep looking too funny
Choose door number 3 - you’ll love it.
I’ve done France / Spain / Italy and Cuba - great way to meet locals and really see the country.
Yeh. Back to the BIKES!!!
I really like when yall sail different boats and give your thoughts on them. That is probably not easy to get set up super often, but hearing opinions on different designs and layouts from yall is always enjoyable.
Way too many people are locked in on their "brand" on RUclips and never take a shot at unexpected in-betweens. I'm so glad you guys aren't just settling for just whatever would work and are really enjoying yourselves. I get a kick out of your adventures. Megan's mom is full-throttle wild!
As they say it's the journey not the destination. I agree these two tell the real story and tell it so well it's wonderful to watch their videos about all things life.
I think you should do more boat search videos. I know it can be a bit of a roller-coaster and sometimes ends in disappointment, but not filming that is kind of like not filming sailing when it gets rough and stormy! I think people like to join you on the roller coaster with all the twists and turns!
Outside of your boat buying journey, I have loved all your Australia and New Zealand adventures. What a beautiful part of the world. Thank you for continuing to share!
Great video guys - it was great having you on board Prophecy!
Graeme, thank you for the wonderful day!
great to see you Graeme
Almost to 100k!! Long time coming 😁😁
In my 50 years of experience, the best and cheapest way to sail is on OPBs (other people's boats). How about being crew on a transatlantic or transpacific voyage?
Hey The O’Kellys! I can’t believe you’re in my backyard! I live at Palm Beach in Queensland. Husband and I are in the middle of moving onto to our first catamaran currently. It’s a 36’ Crowther Voyager. We are weeks (maybe months) away from being live aboard for the first time. If you need anything while you’re in the area please get in touch. We would love to help out if we can. We have been following you both for years and you are a big inspiration to our liveaboard dreams. Warmly, Melissa.
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Just going to throw this one at you for consideration. How about inland waterways. You can sail from the North Sea maybe start at Amsterdam sail via Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Hungry, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania. Then from the Black sea sail through the Mediterranean to the south of France and sail the rivers again back to the North Sea. Kind of sailing the world from the inside for a change.
That could be heaps of fun. But we'd need a good furnace!
I would even say just going down part of the USA intercoastal waterway would be really cool. It wouldn't be a truly inland waterway and I am not an expert but I would see that as a trial run of sorts to see if it would be enjoyable.
On my bucket list! Watched a ton of canal youtubers during lockdown.
Summer is coming in Europe! I was just going to suggest the inland waterways too! 😂
My wife and I met you two at Chat & Chill in Georgetown. We are the Nebre’s and our boat was Indigo Dawn. We have transitioned from the cruising life back to traveling in our Airstream for spring thru autumn. For winter we are doing Airbnb in the Southern Hemisphere and tropics. Happy to follow your adventures and see what to day brings you folks. Who knows our paths ma cross again on this wonderful planet of ours. Never stop the adventure ✌🏼❤️😎
Hey there! Follow the sun! Good plan! Yeh who knows…..see you out there!
Awesome times! Nick, I'm with you on the heights thing but so glad Megan could make those memories with her mom. And her mom is a badass! 😃 Whatever door you choose, even door number 5, it will be great because you'll be doing it together and hopefully sharing it with us.
We will try! Thanks Rod!
@@TheOKellys how about building your own cat? yt ch MJ sailing is building a cat.
Enjoy the journey you are on. The heavens know what direction you are suppose to go in now. The perfect Sailboat will come your way soon. ☘💚 Dont forget it's your lucky month!! 🍀🍀🇮🇪
Spent many hours sailing/racing F-27 and F-9 and mostly loved it. These are too small for extended cruising but great for a 2 week adventure here and there. Our solution to the the “flop” in a rolling anchorage was to hang a small sea anchor off one of the amas to greatly calm the motion. With boards up we had about 18” of draft so we could get into really protected waters or beach on a shallow bank where no one else could go. High sailing fun that can be trailered to any launch ramp and rigged in 1 hr.
Interesting. Thanks for the tip!
That bungee swing looked terrifying lol -- it's cool to see y'all still living your best lives between boats!
Awesome times! Admire you for sticking to your decisions, plenty of time and it's great to see you up to things between boat adventures! It's all bound to work out eventually! Great to see where Megan gets it from!
Door 1 had some stuff onboard!
Most tris owners tend to sail upwind like a mono owner (they sail high). In order to go high in a tri you have to go low, go fast, then come up..rinse and repeat the whole time low fast high ...going fast reduces the hobby horse effect.
Too high = slow and pitching.
Inflatable fenders under X1 ama can help reduce the teter tooter at anchor.
Love your videos!
Door #3, the biking one. I think you’d enjoy it and make some fabulous videos. It seems like you’ve been given an opportunity to do something different from your bucket list. Take it! Go all in.
"What you want versus what you need..." A critical life gravity to remember 💪❤
Great episode! Good luck with the search!
I love this didactic style with technical terms of art, clear explanations and supporting graphics. It's one of the main differences that drew me to your channel.
I vote for door #3 while you're waiting (given the softening in the market finding your next home is getting more likely every day and it's a great way to have fun, keep busy and can be cost effective) ...but you missed the Netherlands in your list of great EU countries to bike in--it's the best in the world for biking by a km! :)
I was at the Boat Works on Friday and could not believe the number of catamarans on the hard.Used to be monohulls in the majority. We live on the Gold Coast and keep our small monohull at Runaway Bay. Enjoying your progress towards a new boat.
Thanks for the update. Another short term option I thought of while watching this would be for you two to buy a canal boat and cruise the canals of Europe. You could bring bicycles and bike the trails as well. Just a thought. I flew para-gliders for 15 years from Alaska to South America but I never had any interest in sky diving or bungee jumping either Nick. 🙂 Whatever you two decide to do I'm sure it will be interesting. Thanks for the video! Travel On!
Love that idea. It will happen at some point. Still hoping for some fast sailing for now!
That would be quite the adventure taking a longboat through the canals.
Wow you did more things in that brief period than many people do in a lifetime ! Having friends with boats is like hiving good neighbours with a pool. Lots of benefit little hassle ( I do get to maintain it when they are on vacation 😎 lime green water anyone?). As you have many supportive followers you should have plenty of opportunities for trying out boats and destinations. Go for it. Would love to have you guys stay here if you ever decide on the lower Great Lakes as an adventure destination.
enjoyed the humor in your latest post. I would not be up for the swing. With you all the way, Nick
The zoo video that follows was an awesome ending. It's nice to see Crickey's family following fulfilling legacy!!
One thing you absolutely nail is the sense of foreboding/ caution concerning the global market. My crystal ball is saying the boat market / housing market will both experience some pretty significant deflation as people wake up to the fact that no-one is coming with 30-70% more than they paid. The question is, when can you catch that falling knife.
I have no crystal ball, but there is a lot of cash out there and a lot of people wanting a cat, so I don't see prices cratering unless things get really, really dire. However, I don't think many folks are willing to pay a 10-30% premium over 2020 prices. So for now, I see stagnation as sellers remain in denial. That will wear off. It always does. Always.
There is a boat for sale right now that I am very familiar with...it was on the market for well over a year and sold at a 20% discount to ask in November 2022. The buyer decided it wasn't for them and put it on the market in January for 25% more than they paid. And of course it isn't selling.
Holding costs will eventually sink in and they'll come to see the boat for what it is: a liability, not an investment.
How long that takes? Don't know.
We liked bike touring so much we moved to France for a few years and rode around Europe. Loved everything about it. I sometimes take my bike on my little 35' Hanse and go on combo trips on the Australian East Coast.
Really....hmmmm....another vote for biking Europe. Has always been on the bucket list!
I imagine when anchored u could just jam some inflatable under one of the floats to stop the teetering. But! Fast cruising mono is the real solution. Have no idea why u don’t buy a pogo. I would get 36 but there is a 44 for Americans who like to super size their soda. 😀 if u get an opportunity to try one please do, as I would be very interested to hear your take.
"inflatable" good thinking
I’m honestly glad that you two aren’t looking for a new boat. While I’m happy for the channels that are waiting on their new boats, that’s not what I aspire to or can afford and I just can’t relate or learn anything from that experience. If I want to hear about the joys of shiny ✨new boats there are shows for that.
…way more fun.
We just want you both to be comfortable and happy, whatever that looks like in the end. The universe already has a plan. Just keep on keeping on and you'll end up exactly where you're supposed to be. Peace guys!
That jump was intense. I got a bit of vertigo just watching from my couch!
Megan your moms so gutsy and I about fainted when I saw you both doing the swing drop! OMG 😱
Selfishly, I’m interested in the biking. I didn’t know that it was possible to do without being on roads. Intriguing!
Great video. Is mom going to try parachuting next? Thanks.
So the tetertotter happens in calm winds and when on anchor? How about solving that with having a larger sail or moving weight to the lower side?
Door number 4 like us!!! LOL, I get it tho, you guys bring up some great points all around
Fancy pants! lol!
Great video. Loved the highlight of Australia Zoo. Steve Irwin is a hero of mine. Gone in body but not in spirit.
Loved the piano piece at end of video and your cheery dispositions. Fair travels and good searches. 🤗 💙 .. 🚣♂️ 🤣
Awesome! Thank you!
The mode of travel isn't as important as the place you want to go. We would consider the experience we want to have and go from there. The bike tour sounds like fun, but so does sailing around in something less-ideal in an area you're interested in exploring.
Thank you for keeping us updated on your adventure!
Not sure that’s true. Getting there is the best part or at least half the fun.
@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk no argument on the "getting there is half the fun" bit, but the actual "how" or "mode of travel" used to get from A to B is the unimportant part.
Did you ever look at the Mumby Aluminum?
Door #3 sounds pretty good to me! My Mom enjoyed bicycling all over Europe well into her 70s.
That’s awesome! I love that you are doing it! A lot of people are not.
I’ll tell you. No jumping out of airplanes or bungee jumping. No way! I did love the zoo. That’s always fun. Take care and good luck finding the right boat. 👍❤️
Whoa, Nick, that sounded like a wholesale warning against all performance tris as side-to-side slappers. Yes the lovely Spirit behaves like that, as she was designed for one job, flat out racing for records across the Atlantic. By contrast a big percentage of the 35'-45' $150-$350kUSD performance cruising tris currently in service were designed by Chris White or Ian Farrier, and they do not behave like that. Raced a Chris White 44' in San Francisco today at 18kts, and it's a nice two bedroom, full height house with oven and shower down below that rests smoothly in a rolling anchorage. Just clarifying that MANY of the 15kt+ capable, live aboard-comfort-equipped tris do not do what you've warned of. Thx for giving Prophecy good air time; those folks seem to campaign that boat really well and they give us all good race summary videos ;)
Sounds like this is the trimaran version of bridgedeck slap…always a matter of degree. Also, methinks you put too much stock in my opinion. In the video we say this is only the third trimaran we’ve ever sailed on.
@@TheOKellys Ah, that’s a great point. Tri buyers beware, learn whether the boat slaps. More likely as they are built lighter.
Much stock taken because it’s great how influential you guys have grown! People are listening to what the O’Kellys have to say about ocean multihulls. Good stuff all around.
Well we try hard to not be definitive about stuff we don’t know much about. That goes for trimarans! But keen to learn….always!
If these were my choices, I would do the bike tour thru Europe - if you are physically capable now you can't assume you will be in the future. I was reminded of that after a bad ice skating fall that happened 2 months ago and I am still recovering from it. Last year we took the boys to Iceland and hiked so much every day my knee started giving out - made me realize we need to do these things while we can!
Good to see you guys having fun sailing in Moreton Bay, where i live. Hope you enjoyed it.
Taking chances & creating the memory of a lifetime. 🤣What a wild ride‼️❤️
Awesome episode 👌🏼
Wonder if a teeter-stopper would calm a trimaran at anchor.
I'm with you. I can't see the point of stepping out of a perfectly good plane. Also, I don't have a desire to go bungee jumping, but I might like to try out that swing. That could be fun.
I can see that a trimaran might be less comfortable than a monohull with the ama stopping the natural rolling motion.
Love you guys what ever you decide i will be along for the ride.
One advantage of doing the bike tour is you can easily switch tacks if a sailboat comes on the market. If you do one of the other options you are more tied in both financially and physically.
Until I saw the inland waterways post below, here was my response...
What a great idea in door #3, while you continue to look for the next boat. I would believe that if you go with a lesser boat that is not what you really want, every day on it you will still be thinking about the right boat, instead of getting on with it. If you do door #3, 100% look for bikes with rear suspension (not just front suspension). It will save you a good amount of aches and pains.
My only concern for door #3 is that it would be more expensive then we might imagine. Since you can only carry a small amount of food with you, the best choice is light, camping-specific food, which is expensive. It will be that or eating out most every meal or a combo of the two, neither of which is cheap. And then there is the camping/hostel/friends/hotels decision, which also can get quite expensive, especially with a scenario like getting stuck for an extra week in a hotel because of bad weather and no other lodging options.
EDIT AFTER INLAND WATERWAY IDEA: The inland waterways is quite intriguing. Aside from being comfortable enough to live aboard for short stretches, I guess it would have to be a small trawler/houseboat (no sails) OR a pocket cruiser with low draft or retractable keel/centerboard with a mast that can be easily lowered. I came across the balphamast system and mast tabernacles... ruclips.net/video/T0Jf-kgbrF4/видео.html Maybe take a look. And, you could have two bikes onboard and bike on out for land trips too. What fun!
Well! I totally understand you guys. We decided to keep our monohull just a little bit longer! 😆😆
Have a read of ‘The unlikely Voyage of Jack de Crow’ - this Aussie took a tiny mirror dingy from Wales to the Black Sea ( if I remember correctly). Might inspire 😀
Palm beach, Queenstown! Living the dream
Ballast bag filled with water on the boom moved side to side or one in an ama to stop the wobble. Rapido has some solutions too, but not see one in person. One cruising trimaran that is no longer offered had a ballast tank to take on water so anchoring was less wobbly and level. The tank could be used by the water maker so a partial tank could defoam the water underway and for other onboard systems that need air free water.
Well it's lovely to hope for a softening market, finding the right boat imo should be way higher priority. What if it comes along and prices haven't gone down yet...
This video was posted at a good time market is probably on the verge of a contraction. I’d say take a few months. I’m not sure when the sailboat market will contract but hopefully you guys will find a boat and a seller that will work for you! Good luck.
Option 3, the bike ride through Europe looks amazing and like it would be so much fun! It's coming into spring for Europe and the tulips in Holland are amazing around April/May❤
Lots of looper boats for sale, maybe a half loop while waiting for the BBD. Buy it at one end sell it at the other. Power boat due to height restrictions but still fun.
Saw a Schionning 1620 today, newly refitted and looked fab for what I could see. Dark blue hull and center boards. If Caan find it again, could be something to look at.😊
Best of both worlds. We have a houseboat in the British Columbia Shuswaps! Of grid on the water!
May June head up to the NT and go on some tour up there, particularly hire a house boat on corrobaree billabong. World class experience
The set up with the trade off's most attractive to me would be have a "less is more" type place in the 3rd World(to keep expenses down), on land in the lower latitudes and 5000 ft to 8000 ft elevation so to have spring like weather year around. Then have a boat that is driving distance in no more than 10 hours from the above land base in a place that is a good cruising ground and is relatively less expensive to store and repair the boat. My objective for use of the boat is to not cross oceans but be comfortable and fun for two weeks or a month max once or twice a year(you can always book an airbnb for a night or two as needed to get off the boat and refresh). Places that come to mind that fit the above are : Mexico: Guadalajara or similar + Guaymas or similar on the Sea of Cortez or Puerta Vallarta . The Philippines has a couple nice towns at elevation with cooler summer temps and amazing cruising grounds. Guatemala: Antigua, Guatemala + Rio Dulce, Guatemala. Another similar set up with trade offs most attractive to me would be have a less is more house in Croatia or Montenegro or Greece that would allow me to moor or dock the boat right in front of the house. The winters in Croatia, Montenegro or Greece are not bad and you could always head south to Cyprus or Crete for example or work your way over to Tunis for the cold months. Another similar idea if you want your "less is more" land base in the States would be look for a place at elevation in Arizona like Flagstaff, Prescott or Sedona all of which have cool summers and are an easy drive to Guaymas on the Sea of Cortez. As you guys know well to find an affordable boat that is fast, fast in light wind, comfortable crossing oceans and well equipped to cross oceans is expensive. My approach is with the same budget spend a lot less on the boat and spend what is left over on a 3rd World, less is more land base. You can do the above very well and with in the budget spend some time at home in Oregon.
BIKE TOUR!!! Make sure to go to Slovenia. Don't skip Bohinj.
Glad to see that your lives are fraught with difficult choices , just like the rest of us.
Equally pleased to see you enjoy the ride.
The Grainger looked like a big day-sailer that could provide a lot of entertainment and get you back to shore in time for dinner.
Did your host say who the builder was/is ?
Why does it seem that the Aussies and the French are always a step ahead of the rest when it comes to go-fast boats?
Thanks
You sold at the right time. Just got to have patience. The high dollar luxury item (boats) market will be easing as people will conserve cash. The only down side is interest rates.
You want performance?
How about 30 knots?
Ultra Long distance cruiser with no maintenance outside.
Easily handled by a couple.
Fantastic ride uphill.
3 bedrooms/3 heads
More storage then you need.
Massive freeze/reefer.
Massive engine/tech room.
Carry 2 dinghys.
Faster then all your friends.
Everyone will want to talk about the boat.
Loads of entertainment space.
Finest interior you have ever seen in a boat.
Built in USA so you can charter.
Great airflow with AC.
You loved those Chris White designs, I really do not, because they are not pretty boats at all, but have you ever considered Windelo 50 and 54 then? Those I love, my favorite boats for sure, which I would chose, if I got the money. The 50 got a base price of 800k Euro, which is of course a lot of money, but much is included, including lots of solar and an advanced hybrid drive. Those boats are also beautiful and really the top eco-friendly boat currently. The main difference between the Chris White and Windelo forward cockpit helm position is, that on the Chris White it is fully exposed and you have to go inside, if the sea gets rough and inside you do not even get a seat or anything else than a wheel! You have to get outside again, if you have to tweak anything in the sail plan. Windelo however have a lowered and protected helm in the forward cockpit, which can be enclosed to the bow in rough seas and you can still sit there comfortably and in really rough seas you can further enclose the inside living space with a massive sliding glass door.
Unlike you I love Zoos. Sure, animals are created to live in the wild, but the thing is, so many animals are on the brink of extinction and zoos actually do much to maintain a healthy worldwide population of several species. I hate them old zoos, where the animals are kept in jail cells, but most modern zoos are very well designed and also with the health of the animals much in mind, for instance by giving them spaces, were they can escape to privacy at all times. Of zoos, that I have visited, which I sure can recommend, is the one in Fuengirola, Andalucia, Spain, which I have been in many times. That one is so beautiful, that it has won several architecture prices and actually features in many architecture books as well. Not a big zoo, but very pretty. The greatest zoo, that I have visited so far, however were on Phu Quoc Island, Vietnam. One of the newest and also most modern zoos in the world, designed to deliver open living habitat feel all the way through, including a safari bus trip through a savannah. It is the second biggest zoo in the world, only second to San Diego Zoo, which do also feature in many architecture books, by the way. The top experience were to handfeed the girafs though and also, comical, to poster on a photo with the most massive Asian man, that I have ever met and all his flying friends, and still one pelican played his bodyguard and actually bit my arm! They can bite surprisingly hard, I can report, but it was still funny! If you get a chance to go to that zoo though, go there in the early morning: At midday it gets unbearably hot in that place! I really had to drag myself out at midday, because I was on the brink of a heatstroke walking that big zoo in that climate, and I am quite a walker and also used to travel in tropical climates.
Please share this video far and wide!! There's usually another way and the O'Kelly Team give different perspectives and more.
I always enjoy learning from them directly or just in thought comparison.
Prices going to drop Double digit % in the next 12 to 15 months as Fuel, interest rates, TAXES, and Inflation surge. Yachts be a luxury item then imo.
My suggestion to yo guys is go for the European rivers with one river boat.There are thousands of km waterways inside Europe load bicycles on the boat and be on water and on cycles in Europe
Hi Guys, I'm 73 and though have loved sailing, My dream boat now is a Bering 74'. All I need now is to find a million dollars and I'm all set. :)
Fun video, as always! Just curious on what is the level/percentage of upkeep improvement on a boat you're considering. Is there a percentage, of total cost/value, or something equivalent you have to consider on a used boat?
What New boat was courting you, if you could share, in comments?
Look forward to see what's next, some year my dream is to visit Australia and or New Zealand.
Wishing you the best, fair winds and following seas!
Clive Brown suggestion sounds good and when you think about traveling worldwide inland waterways you'll be doing videos mainly different from most sailing vids. Maybe on a 40' / 50' folding tri? Dunno but cutting the time across big waters seem more appealing to me.
I think the question I have is are you wishing you would of held on to the clarity a little longer? Something about floating everyday is a life changer when it's gone. I've been doing a lot of work on a boat and getting it updated for charters or for sale. Just being on the water every day is just a blessing. My latest IRUV forced air light purifier system I installed. Boy am I finding things that need to be done every time I open things up! But the boat is going to be so much better when I never finish 😊. 🎉
Megan, your mom is a ROCKSTAR!!!!
the bike tour sounds like the thing to do. keep things cycling till the new boat presents itself.
When the Rigging Fits Easy to Do and Your able to Walk in the Living area Throw up your Legs and it Feels like Home and Your King that’s the Boat🤙🏻🏴☠️
FYI a lot of the "Aussie slang" is actually common in the UK and Ireland too. I'm not sure if we got it from the Aussies or vice versa.
Hey sailors!, ChillyWilly here, I have to say there must be a similar chord running through liveaboard sailors as the choices you offered in the video, most I have done or considered, I have 8 years fulltiming in a rv under my belt, I have been looking for a cabin/house for off grid homesteading for a while and have been torn between this and the sailboat, unfortunately, Sam Bankman Fried stole a good chunk of my sailboat money and the cabin would be cheaper. I have also been considering a smaller powerboat or trawler for months at a time excursions to the Bahamas but we will see. The bicycles sounds potentially painful, and I have a golden retriever who goes everywhere with me, but anyway good luck in your search.
P.S. In southern summer time ( southern hemisphere) is not the best time to look for boats. In winter, prices are on average 10 - 20% lower :(
We are looking for a cat as well so we went and saw a Morrelli & Melvin 50ft performance catamaran in Anappolis MD. we could not help but think of you guys wen we got on it. It was a bit intimidating for us
Yeh any boat that requires racecar seats is probably too much for us as well...lol
@@TheOKellys I was just thinking of the content you can make with it.
As they are finding...very difficult to sell such a unique boat. But no doubt....a rocket!
Come sail with me on my Endeavour 42. You get to sail, and I get to tap into your knowledge, experience, and tag along for the fun filled adventure of your new(ish) boat search.
Thanks for the invite!
I really think Robert and I would watch you whatever you decide to do. We always get a big smile from your videos. That swing though? HELL NO. You and your mom are badasses!
We keep a cabin in the Colorado mountains, and a 32 foot sailboat at Burnt Store Marina. This is enough variety. Why go "all in" on one thing?
I do think you need some sort of property in place (maybe off grid but not far from the real world) for when sailing is just not as physically possible. Yes you could do live aboard in a harbor but I think you will need something to go to when weather and such isn't cooperating - part time at least. Keep looking for the right boat, travel to all the land based places while you dont have the responsibilities of a boat pulling at you, but at the same time get things in place for the following twenty years after that stage of life.
Okay, how about a Quadramaran?
Chances of capsizing: near zero.
So much living space!
On another note, come on, 97,000 subscribers! Mash that like button!
Lady Africa is for sale. They have a you tube channel. Not a performance Cat but beautiful
Just ‘Koala’, not ‘Koala Bear’! 😂 But Australia Zoo is great indeed! 👍
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Door #2, maybe for a little while....that's it!!
Hi O`Kellys. I hope you take a swing to Norway if you are going to bike-ride Europe. we will enjoy good food, go to sea and view Norway.
Hey Nick. I'm currently reading your living on the margin book. I noticed that you don't have a boat right now. And I've yet to see your weather videos. I'm thinking with a lack of boat projects you would have a little bit of time maybe.
Make hay when the sun shines….or in the case of the market opening shortly….when the storm clouds gather. Enjoy the book. Beware, you are swimming with sharks. Good luck.
#3 was fun during my early 20's, staying/partying in backpackers etc, but not in my 50's.
My plan is leasing #2 as an Airbnb (base), while doing seasonal shorthand Island trips in #1 (or 4).
Not a bad plan!
Maybe grab something in the South Pacific or Asia and get it into the Philippines, Thailand, or NZ for first refit and maybe the Cape zone of SoAfrica for 2nd refit? Arbitrage like you did with Clarity. I know you had some bad times the first time you looked at SoPac, but maybe with prices softening, something will arrive there that is workable for you. I get the feeling that hanging out trying to buy a good-value boat in Australia is like hanging out trying to buy a good-value boat in Ft Lauderdale... maybe worse. Or... buy in SoPac and flip in Oz, especially if it's not your dream boat. I'm not a big fan of flipping anything, but there seems to be a trend with SoAfrica and environs having low-cost, fix it, float it, and sell it high in Ft Lauderdale. And plenty of people seem to have a similar goal of buying low anywhere East and selling high in Australia. Other ideas would be Eastern Med / Eastern Europe (Greece, Croatia?) and get work done in Turkey at low cost. NZ and Oz are great to visit. NZ might have some arbitrage value (and great trades workers), but I'm not feeling it with Australia (prices of things there always struck me as high, I'm guessing due to taxes and import fees). I don't think you have to wait much longer for 'change' to come... there are signs of a soft-underbelly in banking getting ready to cause trouble in the markets. Your instincts to hold cash and be ready when a deal appears make sense. Maybe you need a 'gap year' boat.. something financially safe... to tide you over! :) All the best and hope you don't give up on boats!!
One word for you guys: Rapido😁
Brilllllliant - Europe should be next - thanks for sharing 👍
I watched today and found myself searching sites for catamarans I think the act of boat searching is a certified addiction even though I have a boat and I’m good I keep looking too funny
It's an addiction!
It’s like coffee and chocolate or like my mother would say life would suck without cheese
Baewolf in marina del rey is for sale Ultimate cross ocean cruiser. You guys deserve the best ocean crossing sailboat ever built.