I got into baseball about a year ago and immediately liked Trout. It's a shame I can't watch the games live but Trout is definitely one of my favorites Edit: he just has that kind of effect on people... they like him almost immediately
Mike Trout is taking the Henry Aaron approach to fame. He knows it brings a lot of trouble, more than it's worth. Trout is a private man, and a very wise man in that respect. I think it's actually a pretty good thing for his character that he hasn't won a World Series yet. It keeps you very humble to be on bad team after bad team. It keeps you from thinking you're hot stuff, keeps that ego down. There is a reason he walks more than anyone in the league. He's trying to get on base for the TEAM to drive him in.
I got a chance to meet him when he came to my school once about 7 years ago and man he was the nicest guy ever I remember him talking to me about my love of baseball and my favorite position was right field and he talked to me about it and gave me a few tips and I can honestly say he is genuinely a good person
Mike Trout is taking the Henry Aaron approach to fame. He knows it brings a lot of trouble, more than it's worth. Trout is a private man, and a very wise man in that respect. I think it's actually a pretty good thing for his character that he hasn't won a World Series yet. It keeps you very humble to be on bad team after bad team. It keeps you from thinking you're hot stuff, keeps that ego down. There is a reason he walks more than anyone in the league. He's trying to get on base for the TEAM to drive him in.
You didn't talk about his person either. There are great players that I hate because of their person rather than their play, but Mike Trout has made me love watching him succeed and I'm a Mariners fan.
Best Hitter in the game every year of his career. Top 5 defensive center fielder every year of his career. Top 5 baserunner every year of his career. If he keeps it up for the next 7-8 years he'll go down as the greatest of all time
@@5000yes1 I won't argue against that I agree. I'm just saying he's proven he's the most consistent hitter by a decent margin since he's entered the league (Altuve has been fairly close and Miggy early on was obviously)
@@commandershepard1838 I'll give you 2012 and 2013 but even then... "isn't even close" clearly shows your bias. Trout's OBP was better than Miggy's each of those years. As far as I'm concerned Trout hasn't even fully reached his prime yet. Look at what he's doing right now and it's really only reminiscent of Bonds the way teams pitch around him. Also if you look outside of hitting there is no one who comes close to Trout in terms of the combination of baserunning fielding and hitting.
For decades people have wondered what Mickey Mantle would’ve looked like if he didn’t have ongoing knee injury. Mike Trout is truly showing us that answer and it’s so exciting.
KomodoDojo ok. And is Pujols anywhere near the defender trout is??? The base runner??? Pujols was a beast. But his body broke down. Besides he was never a top defender or ever a above average base runner. Trout is all around GREAT.
@@lucass8317 Get back to us in 2023. Update: It's 2021 and Trout has missed most of the season. Turning 30 mow and he's already dinged by injury. It will only get worse from here once his bat speed slows down.
Over his last 162 games, Trout has compiled 11.4 WAR by hitting at a 195 wRC+ (.310/.459/.642 slash line for a 1.101 OPS) and a .450 wOBA, with 48 HR. He stole 26 bases in 28 attempts (92.9% success rate) with above average defensive stats in CF (DRS and UZR). In other words, he has been an above-average centerfielder who hits like peak Bryce Harper and steals bases as efficiently as Mookie Betts.
Steven Kunzer it’s really not though. That’s why WAR is great. It adjusts for eras. His WAR says that he is as dominant in today’s league as Ruth was in the 20’s. Take that with the fact that technology and training has made this the time of greatest talent, and it’s not hard to argue that Trout is the greatest man to ever play this sport
Does WAR accont for expansion and different strategies of eras? Yes I like looking up WAR and it is probably the best all encompassing stat but I feel looking at WAR to WAR as the end all be all is obtuse. Look at the guys with 15 WAR seasons in the 1800’s for example
Also a replacemt player in a league with under 20 teams would stand to be a better player than a league with 30. Also factor in that Basball was the sport to play earlier on where now it is one of many professional sports that the best athletes in the world can choose and actually make a living off of.
@@coolguy02536 WAR was created to understand the value, roughly, that a player brought to a team by comparing him to the league average. It was in usage far before the emergence of Mike Trout.
And Trout is on pace to lead all players in MLB history in strikeouts. Lmao when people say he's the GOAT. If you take Trout's Two MVP seasons and total his strikeouts you get 321 Ks. Joe DiMaggio in his entire HOF career only has 369 Ks. In 19 seasons Pujols has 1216 Ks, in 9 seasons Trout has 1002 Ks.
@@WORSTplayerevr18 Mantle struckout like Trout and his career overlapped Dimaggio's. If people are going to say Trout is the GOAT theyre going to have to compare era's.
I think WAR, and a lot of the other 'new age' stats are flawed. Having said that, I do believe Trout is great, and knocking on the door of immortality.
Not a whole lot of reasoning behind your flawed assertion. The reality is it is the best stat available. It combines contribution from hitting, fielding, and base running into one number and gives a very good estimate of total output. Far preferable to your gut feel and whims.
It is in the interest of MLB to have the Angels get good now that he has signed that extension. If the Dodgers and Angels can both be good, and Trout can be in the Playoffs with Ohtani every year, baseball will not have to change anything to get back to the top of the sports ratings. Once the Pujols contract comes off the books, I hope they make some really good moves. Trout and Ohtani are both young, exciting, and marketable. I am a Red Sox fan, so I am glad that Trout isn't on a contender, but I still think it would be better for baseball if they figured out how to fix the Angels.
Not trying to start hostility in the comments, but would y’all rather have Ken Griffey Jr in his prime, or Mike Trout now (assuming his prime is now), and why?
True but its also really tough man, ken griffey was a baller and if u compare them now junior is by far better but trout could become the goat when its all said and done so its tricky.
Theroux I disagree, as I’ve been a fan of the game since the early 80’s, and Trout is better. Not a lot better, but I’d rather have trout for his unlimited potential.
Absolutely astonishing to think that right now in April 2019, Trout is tearing up the league like never before, so that everything in this video seems like "he's just warming up".
By nearly all these metrics, Mookie Betts has been his equal for the past three seasons. Not trying to say Mookie is better, but it’s an interesting thing to consider
KomodoDojo Trout also has a better career BA (.308 to Pujols’ .302), better OPS (.995 to Pujols’ .935), and a better WAR through their first 7 full seasons (63.8 to Pujols’ 54.9). Pujols is no doubt a HOFer but Trout is statistically better all around
@@brinkleyrichardson Pujols by both his age 29 season and his 11th MLB season was well ahead of Trout in almost all offensive categories except SB. Batting avg was off the charts.
It's a dumb stat that is calculated 4 or 5 different ways by different stat companies. It's also widely misused by analysts who use it to compare players in different positions when it's supposed to only be used to compare players in the same position.
I saw Arod play in 2007, Hit 54Hrs, 156rbi. 143runs, 314avg. 422obp, 645slg. and play great defense and baserunning. Watching the games i have never ever seen trout as dominant as arod was that season. No one who saw arod that season would ever despute who the better player was. In 2016 Trout hit 29hrs, 100rbi, 123runs, and 315avg. 441obp, 550slg. which was a great season but very weak to what we saw arod do in 2007 yet trout had a higher WAR. Trout also had a higher offensive WAR which is just ridculous. Its a shame ppl who dont watch baseball, dont watch the games will look back and actually say trouts 2016 season was better then arods 2007 because of a bias useless stat like WAR. People just repeat what others say, hes gotten off to the best start??? really? so if i run 3 miles in 30 minutes, your telling me a person who runs 1 in 15 is on pace to run 3 faster then me??? Lets look at first full 7 seasons Pujols vs Trout. It seems like you can double trouts stats and still be behind in WAR but i get it. MLB wants to reach american children, making him the face. they cant rely on traditional numbers cuz he gets killed by latino players arod and pujols in those numbers so well make advance stats that we cant actually see. Albert Pujols: .332AVG, 282HRS, 861RBI, 847RUNS, .420OBP, .620SLG, .1040OPS, 1344HITS, 2514TB Mike Trout: .310AVG, 235HRS, 632RBI, 773RUNS, 420OBP, .579SLG, 1.000OPS, 1160HITS, 2171
aj... I agree with most of your points. Think you jumped the tracks on the Latino thing. Arods legacy is tarnished by PEDs. Albert is STILL beloved in STL. Had he stayed, he'd be shoulder to shoulder with Stan the Man in their hearts. Latino got nothing to do with it.
TheBatugan77 idk man, I feel like since trout has come, how we view performance has changed to fit what he does well. They create this he’s on pace to be the best and show you advance numbers that nobody can see to back up there point. For a long time it was Latino players who were the face and in those countries kids wanted to play baseball. Ever since you saw the crazy crazy umpire calls in the WBC I knew something was off. Adam Jones said it that the MLB wanted to bring baseball back to the US, USA won the WBC that year and we saw some ridiculous calls during. Trout generates these advance numbers fast, it’s kinda crazy and they use that to built this false narrative. Idk what it is, a bias, am I just looking for a reason but something is wrong. There were articles and people saying last year he was off the maybe the greatest starts in a season and was on pace to have the best season ever with numbers in mid May inferior to what I’ve seen ppl do in April lmao 😂 what is going on lol guy has more war in his career then ichiro had his entire career lol it’s crazy and nobody questions this they just agree and call him the best player ever cuz mlb network said so.
@itheuser First Hes a great ball player, and is elite ever single season without fail and scary thing is hes getting better and is having his best season yet. My problem isnt with him its more with the pundits whos job is to know and analyze the sport completely ignoring and forgetting what guys like pujols did, i understand arod has an asterisk but anyone who played the game knows you gotta be damn good to put up arod numbers.
The reason they all have less WAR is because they all grounded in to double plays a bunch. Pujols line of 333 avg 420 obp and 620 slg looks beautiful and more eye popping than trouts BUT there are a few caveats. Pitchers throw harder today and you see more of them per game.making hitting today more difficult. Also angels stadium is a pitchers park and st. louis wasn't. which is why trouts ops+ is higher than pujols, aroid or miggy. But back to my point, when pujols grounds into almost 30 doule plays a season, hes cost his team around 3 wins or so. trout avoids them better than pujols, miggy, mays, aaron, griffey or bonds.
He's not close (yet), and he's already getting injured and setting for the decline. Pujols was better by the same age and # of MLB season (with rings), and Trout has no hope in hell of reaching Pujols career #s or impact.
@@billlarussa5908"no hope in hell of reaching Pujols career #s or impact." Ummm... Pujols has played 21 seasons and has a career WAR of 101. Trout has played 12 seasons and has a career WAR of 85. He is about 3 or 4 good seasons away.
Unlike basketball or football, championships wins isn’t a metric for considering one the best player in the world. Do you deny the greatness of Ty Cobb or Ted Williams because they never got rings?
He can’t be the GOAT batting 0.83 in the Post Season. He’s gonna have to prove he can perform as an individual in clutch moments, regular season is the regular season for reason. I wouldn’t rank him above the Captain currently just off of WAR & ability, it’s about a lot more.
@@KomodoDojo Pitchers aren't batters. Evaluating them the same way doesn't make much sense. The value in today's baseball at the plate is swing for the fences, and if you fail, it doesn't matter. It's the most advantageous way to generate runs today, why there's far less doubles today than ten years ago. Plus, pitchers are also evaluated on ERA+, FIP, WHIP, Pitcher WAR. I bet you that in 20 years, there won't be pitchers in the majors that can reach in the 15 in all-time Ks or reach 3,000 Ks.
@@de132 I can look at hitters and compare from other eras I'm not buying that ideology. Plenty of great hitters today produce at a high level with reasonable amount of Ks. It's just a phase that stat people think actually contributes to winning. But if you look at teams that win WS over this era they all are won by teams loaded with contact hitters and stud pitching. You win when guys advance runners which knock out pitchers. It's a crock of shit if you believe swinging for the fences is a good strategy. How did the Yankees, Twins, and Dodgers do in the postseason after shattering the regular season team HR record??? WAR is bs stat that doesn't translate to winning, it unfairly compares the value of players in different positions by basing it on antiquated stats and ignores how they played and situations they were in
I agree with the commissioner. Harper is only famous bc he wants to be. Hes an attention seeking child that needs to grow up. Mike Trout is humble, has a great attitude, and he is a better player than harper can even dream of being.
Bonds wasn't truly great 'til 1990 when he won the MVP at 25. His 89 season he had a sub 800 ops. He was very good for that time tho , at least according to ops+. By the time he got to candlestick park (hitters park) he was hitting 40+ homeruns a year.
Funky Muncy - Ruth didn’t become a full time hitter until he was 24 and Musial started at 21. Since Trout started at 20, he had a head start in WAR over the two.
Trout is awesome, but WAR is a bullshit number that is calculated differently by different franchises that tells the something - but can't possibly actually tell them how many wins a guy is worth above an average replacement. Regardless, I'm pretty sure we don't need that to see how talented Trout is.
Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr, Ernie Banks, Ty Cobb, Tony Gwynn are just some of the All-Time greats that have never won a World Series.
What's to defend. Anyone reasonable would agree those players greatness are not limited by their lack of championships. Even the greats needed additional players around them to win a World Series. Ruth played on some of the most talented teams. DiMaggio, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, all of them played with fellow HOFs. Was Reggie Jackson better than Ken Griffey Jr? Absolutely not. Not that it should matter, but I'm not an Angels fan but I do enjoy watching great players.
No you don’t. How does his team’s success have anything to do with him being the best, or one of the best ever. Baseball isn’t like basketball where one player can carry a team to a title.
First off Mansfield is a failed commissioner. Because of the shifting in baseball the viewership is down big time. Because the defense can literally put the whole damn infield or outfield on one side of the field. You might say well then hit it to the other side. You cant though because the pitcher pitches to the shift and forces the batter to hit into the shift. Making it a 1 2 combo that is destroying the game because people want to see action, hits, homeruns, offense. Not 4 infielders on the damn right side of the infield. This started to get out of hand 6 years ago or so. There should be a limit to which you can shift. There has always been slight shifting but for the past 6 years or so its gotten ridiculous. Every other sport has created rules to stop defenses from abusing a loophole. Like in the nba they put in the 5 second back down rule because of Charles Barkley. They put illegal defense where you have to be within a reasonable distance from the player you are guarding. They put the 3 second rule. In football they got tougher on passing interference calls because they want more offense and for defenders to not be able to abuse or stop long passes. They made it to where you cant hit the QB as hard because the QBs are the draw and people want to see offense. But in baseball you can put the whole damn defense on one side then the pitcher pitches to that shift and makes the game more boring. And that clown wonders why baseball is losing viewers lol. Give me a break. It because people dont want to see no offense because the whole damn defense is on one side of the field and the pitcher is pitching to that shift. Mike trout would average 335+ a season without this b.s. shifting that is out of control. But to ser this video break down the stats is crazy. Trout is a living legend. He should be the biggest athlete in the world. But because mlb and Mansfield has his head up his @ss the recognition isn't there.
Andreas Dengler it’s just a measure of individual value/performance. However good or bad the player’s team is doesn’t matter when looking at a player’s WAR. A 10 WAR player would be a 10 WAR player regardless of what team he is on, be it a contender or the worst team in the league.
@@billlarussa5908 Trout plays one position. The team's playoff woes are in spite of him being one of the very best to ever play the game, not because of him.
Trout is certainly a more complete position player than Williams, Ruth or Gehrig. Cobb might be similarly valuable in terms of base-running and defense. But the dead ball era is so different that it is almost like comparing the modern MLB to college Baseball. They just aren’t the same. Plus, Cobb was a nasty and violent racist. I don’t like Pete Rose much for the Hall of Fame. But I would trade Rose entering the hall for Cobb being removed from the hall. It’s an issue I really wish MLB would address. There should be a means for eliminating some players from the hall after we learn better. I could probably pick about 20 players that could easily be agreed by 75% of the writers today to be remove from the hall of fame. And most of them are dead already anyway.
@@cormel6895 I recommend reading about wins above replacement on fangraphs. library.fangraphs.com/misc/war/ It's a measure used to see how productive a player is, and how much value he brings to his team.
How though? It literally measures how good a player is all around. Trout isn’t the best hitter ever (though he’s not far off), but he’s the best all around player ever so far in his career.
KomodoDojo Pujols has been playing since 2000, Trout has been playing since 2011. Do you understand how time works? Because Pujols has had much more *time* to put up whatever numbers you’re talking about. In terms of WAR, Trout is unreal and much better than Pujols, and ability wise he’s clearly the best baseball player ever. So idk wtf you’re talking about tbh
Baseball fans already know about his greatness. He is liked by the people he wants to be liked by for the right reasons and it's respectable.
I got into baseball about a year ago and immediately liked Trout. It's a shame I can't watch the games live but Trout is definitely one of my favorites
Edit: he just has that kind of effect on people... they like him almost immediately
Mike Trout is taking the Henry Aaron approach to fame. He knows it brings a lot of trouble, more than it's worth. Trout is a private man, and a very wise man in that respect. I think it's actually a pretty good thing for his character that he hasn't won a World Series yet. It keeps you very humble to be on bad team after bad team. It keeps you from thinking you're hot stuff, keeps that ego down.
There is a reason he walks more than anyone in the league. He's trying to get on base for the TEAM to drive him in.
I got a chance to meet him when he came to my school once about 7 years ago and man he was the nicest guy ever I remember him talking to me about my love of baseball and my favorite position was right field and he talked to me about it and gave me a few tips and I can honestly say he is genuinely a good person
Mike Trout is taking the Henry Aaron approach to fame. He knows it brings a lot of trouble, more than it's worth. Trout is a private man, and a very wise man in that respect. I think it's actually a pretty good thing for his character that he hasn't won a World Series yet. It keeps you very humble to be on bad team after bad team. It keeps you from thinking you're hot stuff, keeps that ego down.
There is a reason he walks more than anyone in the league. He's trying to get on base for the TEAM to drive him in.
You didn't talk about his person either. There are great players that I hate because of their person rather than their play, but Mike Trout has made me love watching him succeed and I'm a Mariners fan.
Yeah, take Manny Machado for example. Very talented player, but I have zero respect for him because of the way he conducts himself.
Why does this video only have 11,000 views after seven months?
Maybe nobody knows that this channel even exists. Nothing on the blog seems to indicate that it does.
And just like that, we’re at 20,000. The algorithm is weird sometimes.
@@JackDanger99 Crazy. Seven months to 11,000, then two more days to 20,000.
@@JackDanger99 and now its at 35k lol
Because mike trout isn't famous :/ ?
Best Hitter in the game every year of his career. Top 5 defensive center fielder every year of his career. Top 5 baserunner every year of his career. If he keeps it up for the next 7-8 years he'll go down as the greatest of all time
Mostly true, but I still think Miguel Cabrera's 2012 Triple Crown was better than Trout's season.
Not even remotely true.
@@5000yes1 I won't argue against that I agree. I'm just saying he's proven he's the most consistent hitter by a decent margin since he's entered the league (Altuve has been fairly close and Miggy early on was obviously)
Miggy was better when he was healthy. Trout isn’t even close to prime miggy. Which includes 2012-15.
@@commandershepard1838 I'll give you 2012 and 2013 but even then... "isn't even close" clearly shows your bias. Trout's OBP was better than Miggy's each of those years. As far as I'm concerned Trout hasn't even fully reached his prime yet. Look at what he's doing right now and it's really only reminiscent of Bonds the way teams pitch around him. Also if you look outside of hitting there is no one who comes close to Trout in terms of the combination of baserunning fielding and hitting.
Petition to make trouts nickname Ares
Sam Konstan why tho??🤔
@@steelersfan6290 "God of WAR"
STEELERS FAN Ares is the Greek god of War. *That’s* why.
Amazing
Watching Trout is what it must have been like to watch Mickey Mantle. They even have a similar body type.
Wow, underrated video. Good job.
For decades people have wondered what Mickey Mantle would’ve looked like if he didn’t have ongoing knee injury. Mike Trout is truly showing us that answer and it’s so exciting.
Okay who doesn't like Mike Trout he's the best player on the league baseball team and he is such a good player to the angels go
Mike Trout
This video might be one of the most underrated and under watched things on RUclips. Great video about a truly great ball player.
My favorite stat.? WAR/salary. Case in point; Prince Fielder.
Welp, that's what happens when you don't stick around long enough to get a $500 Million deal.
Real Baseball fans know exactly who he is, the best player of my Generation and I’m 50
In 19 seasons Pujols has 1216 strikeouts, in 9 seasons Trout has 1002 strikeouts.
KomodoDojo trout will definitely be better by the end of career
KomodoDojo ok. And is Pujols anywhere near the defender trout is??? The base runner??? Pujols was a beast. But his body broke down. Besides he was never a top defender or ever a above average base runner. Trout is all around GREAT.
Ummmm... that wouldn't be your generation, buddy. And there are players better than he from your (our generation, like The Kid, Jeter and Pujols.
@@lucass8317 Get back to us in 2023.
Update: It's 2021 and Trout has missed most of the season. Turning 30 mow and he's already dinged by injury. It will only get worse from here once his bat speed slows down.
He would destroy as a running back in football if he played that, but I like him more as a baseball player.
No shit
6'2" 235lbs and runs that fast he'd be a solid middle linebacker
Over his last 162 games, Trout has compiled 11.4 WAR by hitting at a 195 wRC+ (.310/.459/.642 slash line for a 1.101 OPS) and a .450 wOBA, with 48 HR. He stole 26 bases in 28 attempts (92.9% success rate) with above average defensive stats in CF (DRS and UZR).
In other words, he has been an above-average centerfielder who hits like peak Bryce Harper and steals bases as efficiently as Mookie Betts.
in other words, he Mike Trouts like Mike Trout.
In 19 seasons Pujols has 1216 strikeouts, in 9 seasons Trout has 1002 strikeouts.
@@KomodoDojo Spammer... Strikeouts are going up across the league but trout is dropping his k% and increasing his bb%
Mike has that "ah shucks" attitude. He's a pure baseball player inside and out lol
Great video
Going to a couple angels games in July simply because of him. And to see pujols one last time. If you love the game you pay to see the greats
Great content.
He's other worldly good. He needs to be in the playoffs.
Well, he’s 38th all-time in WAR as of 2022.😳
I’m a Rangers fan and Mike Trout is my favorite player. That’s how much I admire the way he plays the game.
I just hope he has a healthy career and gets a WS ring. He is the best player going since 2012 but it is hard to compare eras too much.
Steven Kunzer it’s really not though. That’s why WAR is great. It adjusts for eras. His WAR says that he is as dominant in today’s league as Ruth was in the 20’s. Take that with the fact that technology and training has made this the time of greatest talent, and it’s not hard to argue that Trout is the greatest man to ever play this sport
Does WAR accont for expansion and different strategies of eras? Yes I like looking up WAR and it is probably the best all encompassing stat but I feel looking at WAR to WAR as the end all be all is obtuse. Look at the guys with 15 WAR seasons in the 1800’s for example
Also a replacemt player in a league with under 20 teams would stand to be a better player than a league with 30. Also factor in that Basball was the sport to play earlier on where now it is one of many professional sports that the best athletes in the world can choose and actually make a living off of.
Probable top 5 player with a shot at GOAT, awesome to be watching him. Sucks it's with the Angels.
GOAT even w/o stat
Doesn't seem to be the case if the entire "stat" was fabricated solely to dickride him. Hence why the two are seemingly inseparable...
@@coolguy02536 WAR was created to understand the value, roughly, that a player brought to a team by comparing him to the league average. It was in usage far before the emergence of Mike Trout.
@@hypetrained Don't spread misinformation (last sentence). That hole your digging can't get much deeper.
Theroux The WAR stat became popular around the time Peter Brand started changing the game in Oakland...
Then all those journalists and experts sure took quite awhile to catch on! A most convenient set of circumstances.
love trout, but the most impressive thing in this video is simmons's decoy at 3:33
And Trout is on pace to lead all players in MLB history in strikeouts. Lmao when people say he's the GOAT. If you take Trout's Two MVP seasons and total his strikeouts you get 321 Ks. Joe DiMaggio in his entire HOF career only has 369 Ks.
In 19 seasons Pujols has 1216 Ks, in 9 seasons Trout has 1002 Ks.
KomodoDojo different era
@@WORSTplayerevr18 Mantle struckout like Trout and his career overlapped Dimaggio's. If people are going to say Trout is the GOAT theyre going to have to compare era's.
Aye. Everyone also remains willingly oblivious towards Trout's record-setting 184ks by an "MVP" winner. Awkward.
Theroux you can not be this stupid lmao
I think WAR, and a lot of the other 'new age' stats are flawed. Having said that, I do believe Trout is great, and knocking on the door of immortality.
Who do you think is the greatest of all-time in baseball
Not a whole lot of reasoning behind your flawed assertion. The reality is it is the best stat available. It combines contribution from hitting, fielding, and base running into one number and gives a very good estimate of total output. Far preferable to your gut feel and whims.
It is in the interest of MLB to have the Angels get good now that he has signed that extension. If the Dodgers and Angels can both be good, and Trout can be in the Playoffs with Ohtani every year, baseball will not have to change anything to get back to the top of the sports ratings. Once the Pujols contract comes off the books, I hope they make some really good moves. Trout and Ohtani are both young, exciting, and marketable. I am a Red Sox fan, so I am glad that Trout isn't on a contender, but I still think it would be better for baseball if they figured out how to fix the Angels.
Who came here after Trout robbed Yelich's home run?
Franklin - it was recommended it to me, RUclips knows 👀
@@noahmenchaca1267 I thought the saaame thing
Fast forward a few months and he’s making 430 mil
Awesome video.
He is the greatest player of my lifetime, could be the GoAT
Not trying to start hostility in the comments, but would y’all rather have Ken Griffey Jr in his prime, or Mike Trout now (assuming his prime is now), and why?
Trout is like a young Hank Aaron in his prime. I'd take that over Junior's prime years without question.
Anyone choosing Trout over Griffey couldn't show their youthful naivete any harder.
True but its also really tough man, ken griffey was a baller and if u compare them now junior is by far better but trout could become the goat when its all said and done so its tricky.
lets be honest though, we all know its barry bonds.
Theroux I disagree, as I’ve been a fan of the game since the early 80’s, and Trout is better.
Not a lot better, but I’d rather have trout for his unlimited potential.
Makes New Jersey proud
One of the best to ever live
Whoa the stats
And another MVP after this video.
In 1/3 of a MLB season.
I feel like I'm listening to cut rate In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida here.
Absolutely astonishing to think that right now in April 2019, Trout is tearing up the league like never before, so that everything in this video seems like "he's just warming up".
Like never before, my a$$. You must've just started watching baseball this decade I suppose.
Not to mention his postseason stats
Owned :^)
@JCA Ditto?
By nearly all these metrics, Mookie Betts has been his equal for the past three seasons. Not trying to say Mookie is better, but it’s an interesting thing to consider
Mookie Betts is better. He's a better fielder and a better hitter.
Shout out to the Mick!
Trout is Superman from Planet Baseball
How many rings?
1:42 the Mariners had the Kid and A-Roid at the same time smh
Edgar Martinez (maybe the best right-handed hitter of his generation) and Randy Johnson as well. Loaded team.
The mlb should really market him somewhat like the nba markets Lebron
He also has a lot of parallels with Lebron. They are both future legends that are walking highlight reels.
I agree.
I love Trout but Griffey Jr will always be the goat in my mind
uh Griffey Jr is one of the best ever for sure but definitely not THE GOAT
@@fetusface963 that swing is just a thing of beauty! It's a shame he was so injury prone
@@byAngelicc no disrespect to him obv, he's a legend
Too bad his career tapered off late.
If only he stayed healthy, he would definitely have the strongest case for GOAT but too bad injuries happened
To be clear though, he is the god of baseball. He plays baseball.
and this is why he got that fat contract
If he keeps this level of greatness up his whole career he’ll go down as the 🐐
In 19 seasons Pujols has 1216 strikeouts, in 9 seasons Trout has 1002 strikeouts.
KomodoDojo Trout also has a better career BA (.308 to Pujols’ .302), better OPS (.995 to Pujols’ .935), and a better WAR through their first 7 full seasons (63.8 to Pujols’ 54.9). Pujols is no doubt a HOFer but Trout is statistically better all around
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He hasn’t declined yet, if you factored Only Pujol’s peak years his stats would be better as well.
@@brinkleyrichardson Pujols by both his age 29 season and his 11th MLB season was well ahead of Trout in almost all offensive categories except SB. Batting avg was off the charts.
What the hell is WAR?
It's a dumb stat that is calculated 4 or 5 different ways by different stat companies. It's also widely misused by analysts who use it to compare players in different positions when it's supposed to only be used to compare players in the same position.
Imaginary wins
Now add switch hitting and you got mantle.
I saw Arod play in 2007, Hit 54Hrs, 156rbi. 143runs, 314avg. 422obp, 645slg. and play great defense and baserunning. Watching the games i have never ever seen trout as dominant as arod was that season. No one who saw arod that season would ever despute who the better player was. In 2016 Trout hit 29hrs, 100rbi, 123runs, and 315avg. 441obp, 550slg. which was a great season but very weak to what we saw arod do in 2007 yet trout had a higher WAR. Trout also had a higher offensive WAR which is just ridculous. Its a shame ppl who dont watch baseball, dont watch the games will look back and actually say trouts 2016 season was better then arods 2007 because of a bias useless stat like WAR. People just repeat what others say, hes gotten off to the best start??? really? so if i run 3 miles in 30 minutes, your telling me a person who runs 1 in 15 is on pace to run 3 faster then me??? Lets look at first full 7 seasons Pujols vs Trout. It seems like you can double trouts stats and still be behind in WAR but i get it. MLB wants to reach american children, making him the face. they cant rely on traditional numbers cuz he gets killed by latino players arod and pujols in those numbers so well make advance stats that we cant actually see.
Albert Pujols: .332AVG, 282HRS, 861RBI, 847RUNS, .420OBP, .620SLG, .1040OPS, 1344HITS, 2514TB
Mike Trout: .310AVG, 235HRS, 632RBI, 773RUNS, 420OBP, .579SLG, 1.000OPS, 1160HITS, 2171
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I agree with most of your points.
Think you jumped the tracks on the Latino thing. Arods legacy is tarnished by PEDs. Albert is STILL beloved in STL. Had he stayed, he'd be shoulder to shoulder with Stan the Man in their hearts. Latino got nothing to do with it.
TheBatugan77 idk man, I feel like since trout has come, how we view performance has changed to fit what he does well. They create this he’s on pace to be the best and show you advance numbers that nobody can see to back up there point. For a long time it was Latino players who were the face and in those countries kids wanted to play baseball. Ever since you saw the crazy crazy umpire calls in the WBC I knew something was off. Adam Jones said it that the MLB wanted to bring baseball back to the US, USA won the WBC that year and we saw some ridiculous calls during. Trout generates these advance numbers fast, it’s kinda crazy and they use that to built this false narrative. Idk what it is, a bias, am I just looking for a reason but something is wrong. There were articles and people saying last year he was off the maybe the greatest starts in a season and was on pace to have the best season ever with numbers in mid May inferior to what I’ve seen ppl do in April lmao 😂 what is going on lol guy has more war in his career then ichiro had his entire career lol it’s crazy and nobody questions this they just agree and call him the best player ever cuz mlb network said so.
@itheuser First Hes a great ball player, and is elite ever single season without fail and scary thing is hes getting better and is having his best season yet. My problem isnt with him its more with the pundits whos job is to know and analyze the sport completely ignoring and forgetting what guys like pujols did, i understand arod has an asterisk but anyone who played the game knows you gotta be damn good to put up arod numbers.
The reason they all have less WAR is because they all grounded in to double plays a bunch. Pujols line of 333 avg 420 obp and 620 slg looks beautiful and more eye popping than trouts BUT there are a few caveats. Pitchers throw harder today and you see more of them per game.making hitting today more difficult. Also angels stadium is a pitchers park and st. louis wasn't. which is why trouts ops+ is higher than pujols, aroid or miggy. But back to my point, when pujols grounds into almost 30 doule plays a season, hes cost his team around 3 wins or so. trout avoids them better than pujols, miggy, mays, aaron, griffey or bonds.
Barry Bonds walked more than ANYONE, but the numbers are overweighted to his later years. MIke is still AWESOME.
What could mantle have done if he had the medical technology to help his injuries today or if he stayed healthy
The 🐐!!! 😇
As much as I love Trout and his numbers speak for themselves, but he's got to at least win 1 ring (if not more) to be considered the greatest
Undoubtedly the best baseball player ever.
He's not close (yet), and he's already getting injured and setting for the decline. Pujols was better by the same age and # of MLB season (with rings), and Trout has no hope in hell of reaching Pujols career #s or impact.
@@billlarussa5908"no hope in hell of reaching Pujols career #s or impact."
Ummm... Pujols has played 21 seasons and has a career WAR of 101. Trout has played 12 seasons and has a career WAR of 85. He is about 3 or 4 good seasons away.
I did not know A-Rod's WAR was so high all the way through his career. Mike Trout is better though, no roids.
Just hasn't been caught yet lol
Fancy seeing you here
Trout does the intangibles ARid didnt always do. Like steal alot of bases (because that's cause for injuries) and diving for balls
Because WAR wasn't existent until A-Rod's career was over?
@@travismccoy3927 False on both counts.
Is it just me or does he have t rex arms
It's a shame he's wasted his career with the Angels.
Unlike basketball or football, championships wins isn’t a metric for considering one the best player in the world. Do you deny the greatness of Ty Cobb or Ted Williams because they never got rings?
Ben Schocket-Greene that’s true
Ben Schocket-Greene when you chase rings, you turn into what lebron is currently dealing with right now. I think trout is fine where he is
He can’t be the GOAT batting 0.83 in the Post Season. He’s gonna have to prove he can perform as an individual in clutch moments, regular season is the regular season for reason. I wouldn’t rank him above the Captain currently just off of WAR & ability, it’s about a lot more.
It's clear he's the greatest right now that there has ever been
He's not even a top 100 all time yet.
And so far this season he's having the best season ever
This isn't a Cody Bellinger video my man
5th best hitter ever according to OPS+
the angels has won O world series....speaks a lot eh? he is more Wilt Chamberlain than MJ
The Angels won the 2002 World Series!
videoman954 with him
@B4 freedomfighter Unless, of course, he actually had any under his belt.
Why did this just get recommend to me?
I did that.
Problem?
Deal.
Trout is the best player ever. I’m also a Mariner fan so I see him lots of times through out the year.
In 19 seasons Pujols has 1216 strikeouts, in 9 seasons Trout has 1002 strikeouts.
@@KomodoDojo Total strikeouts is a bad stat to compare batters. Especially batters whose careers started in the "home run or strikeout" primary era.
@@de132 so why are pitchers then heavily evaluated for strikeouts? It's a major factor in cy young voting.
I don't buy your argument
@@KomodoDojo Pitchers aren't batters. Evaluating them the same way doesn't make much sense. The value in today's baseball at the plate is swing for the fences, and if you fail, it doesn't matter. It's the most advantageous way to generate runs today, why there's far less doubles today than ten years ago.
Plus, pitchers are also evaluated on ERA+, FIP, WHIP, Pitcher WAR. I bet you that in 20 years, there won't be pitchers in the majors that can reach in the 15 in all-time Ks or reach 3,000 Ks.
@@de132 I can look at hitters and compare from other eras I'm not buying that ideology. Plenty of great hitters today produce at a high level with reasonable amount of Ks.
It's just a phase that stat people think actually contributes to winning. But if you look at teams that win WS over this era they all are won by teams loaded with contact hitters and stud pitching.
You win when guys advance runners which knock out pitchers.
It's a crock of shit if you believe swinging for the fences is a good strategy. How did the Yankees, Twins, and Dodgers do in the postseason after shattering the regular season team HR record???
WAR is bs stat that doesn't translate to winning, it unfairly compares the value of players in different positions by basing it on antiquated stats and ignores how they played and situations they were in
I agree with the commissioner. Harper is only famous bc he wants to be. Hes an attention seeking child that needs to grow up. Mike Trout is humble, has a great attitude, and he is a better player than harper can even dream of being.
is Bonds purposefully left off these charts?
Bonds wasn't truly great 'til 1990 when he won the MVP at 25. His 89 season he had a sub 800 ops. He was very good for that time tho , at least according to ops+. By the time he got to candlestick park (hitters park) he was hitting 40+ homeruns a year.
I don’t think so, I think they left out Babe Ruth, Stan Musial and some others to make it easier to see the comparison they’re making
Funky Muncy - Ruth didn’t become a full time hitter until he was 24 and Musial started at 21. Since Trout started at 20, he had a head start in WAR over the two.
Is Mike Trout better at baseball than Lebron James is at basketball?
Jacoby Jones was fourth in WAR in the AL and he’s a .220 hitter with no power. WAR overvalues defense wayyyyy too much.
when?
Trout is awesome, but WAR is a bullshit number that is calculated differently by different franchises that tells the something - but can't possibly actually tell them how many wins a guy is worth above an average replacement.
Regardless, I'm pretty sure we don't need that to see how talented Trout is.
They do need WAR to say how good he is cause that’s the ammunition they use to say how good he is. He’s overrated.
@@rolandotavarez255 My only point is that it's a nonsensical number that is not accurately named.
If Manny "hustling is not my cup of tea" Machado is making 30 Mill a year, Trout should be making 60
All of those numbers, and zero World Series rings. He needs those to be truly one of the greats.
Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr, Ernie Banks, Ty Cobb, Tony Gwynn are just some of the All-Time greats that have never won a World Series.
@@tonynelamichael And yet we don't see any of you zealously defending any of those players on the scale of Trout...
What's to defend. Anyone reasonable would agree those players greatness are not limited by their lack of championships. Even the greats needed additional players around them to win a World Series. Ruth played on some of the most talented teams. DiMaggio, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, all of them played with fellow HOFs. Was Reggie Jackson better than Ken Griffey Jr? Absolutely not. Not that it should matter, but I'm not an Angels fan but I do enjoy watching great players.
What's to defend. /topic
God should’ve made Mike Trout a New York Yankee.
Title should be Mike Trout Is a God.
Foolishness
We all know that in order to become a GOAT you need titles....and that's one thing he doesn't have yet
No you don’t. How does his team’s success have anything to do with him being the best, or one of the best ever. Baseball isn’t like basketball where one player can carry a team to a title.
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Look at him now....
First off Mansfield is a failed commissioner. Because of the shifting in baseball the viewership is down big time. Because the defense can literally put the whole damn infield or outfield on one side of the field. You might say well then hit it to the other side. You cant though because the pitcher pitches to the shift and forces the batter to hit into the shift. Making it a 1 2 combo that is destroying the game because people want to see action, hits, homeruns, offense. Not 4 infielders on the damn right side of the infield. This started to get out of hand 6 years ago or so. There should be a limit to which you can shift. There has always been slight shifting but for the past 6 years or so its gotten ridiculous. Every other sport has created rules to stop defenses from abusing a loophole. Like in the nba they put in the 5 second back down rule because of Charles Barkley. They put illegal defense where you have to be within a reasonable distance from the player you are guarding. They put the 3 second rule. In football they got tougher on passing interference calls because they want more offense and for defenders to not be able to abuse or stop long passes. They made it to where you cant hit the QB as hard because the QBs are the draw and people want to see offense. But in baseball you can put the whole damn defense on one side then the pitcher pitches to that shift and makes the game more boring. And that clown wonders why baseball is losing viewers lol. Give me a break. It because people dont want to see no offense because the whole damn defense is on one side of the field and the pitcher is pitching to that shift. Mike trout would average 335+ a season without this b.s. shifting that is out of control. But to ser this video break down the stats is crazy. Trout is a living legend. He should be the biggest athlete in the world. But because mlb and Mansfield has his head up his @ss the recognition isn't there.
War= wins above replacement. Yet his team is usually mediocre.
EXACTLY!
That's not his fault. They never have any pitching.
Andreas Dengler it’s just a measure of individual value/performance. However good or bad the player’s team is doesn’t matter when looking at a player’s WAR. A 10 WAR player would be a 10 WAR player regardless of what team he is on, be it a contender or the worst team in the league.
Maybe the commissioner should stop removing MLB videos from RUclips and social media and then maybe Baseball would stop declining in popularity
Mookie Betts lead in WAR last season, not Trout.
they made the video before the season was over. At one point they mention 'August 1st' as a reference point.
He might be the BOAT but not the GOAT
AWSOME!! THE BEST PLAYER EVER, HANDS DOWN !!
No kratos is
Only athlete on earth who could get paid 430 mil and have it be a discount.
He's robbing the Angels. Or should I say, the Angels are robbing themselves. 11 Trout seasons, 1 playoff appearance, ONE playoff hit (a solo HR). ONE.
@@billlarussa5908 Trout plays one position. The team's playoff woes are in spite of him being one of the very best to ever play the game, not because of him.
Trout is certainly a more complete position player than Williams, Ruth or Gehrig. Cobb might be similarly valuable in terms of base-running and defense. But the dead ball era is so different that it is almost like comparing the modern MLB to college Baseball. They just aren’t the same.
Plus, Cobb was a nasty and violent racist. I don’t like Pete Rose much for the Hall of Fame. But I would trade Rose entering the hall for Cobb being removed from the hall. It’s an issue I really wish MLB would address. There should be a means for eliminating some players from the hall after we learn better.
I could probably pick about 20 players that could easily be agreed by 75% of the writers today to be remove from the hall of fame. And most of them are dead already anyway.
Give me a call when he joins the 500-500 club
or the 40-40 club
or gets an OPS of over 1.000 for 9 years in a row.
He will likely end up in the 600-300 club. Which only 3 others have done: Mays, Bonds, and ARod
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Trout may go down as the player with the most WAR in his career, but he will never win a World Series with the Angels
You need a team to win the World Series. Trout, as good as he is, can't do it by himself.
WAR is basically imaginary wins.
@@cormel6895 I recommend reading about wins above replacement on fangraphs. library.fangraphs.com/misc/war/ It's a measure used to see how productive a player is, and how much value he brings to his team.
WAR is a very misleading stat imo
How though? It literally measures how good a player is all around. Trout isn’t the best hitter ever (though he’s not far off), but he’s the best all around player ever so far in his career.
@@bentroutman9968 His logic is "Trust me bro. I listen to my gut."
Shouldve came home to the phillies
Btw, the depth of analytics is getting crazy, in a good way
Trout is amazing and carries the Angels to mediocrity. Now they just need some actual pitching around him..
Trout is what happens if you take Rickey Henderson, mickey mantle, ted Williams and ty Cobb, and put them all together
Betts had a higher WAR in 2018, and quit trying to make Trout the face of MLB. He's great but plenty of other players worthy of acclaim.
@B4 freedomfighter you're getting paid *_nada_* to shill.
@B4 freedomfighter Strikeouts are bad amigo!
Ah insanity. Maybe saying it enough times will actually make it true, though it certainly hasn't worked in your favor yet!
Too bad he will never win a world series with the Angels such a shame to have his career wasted.
Yes, your baseball skills should speak for themselves-bragging not necessary
he's already the best baseball player ever, he's the messi of baseball even though messi is still better at football than trout is at baseball
floyd brown lmao how
Children...
Theroux ??
Except Pujols had a much better career, numbers don't lie. So Trout didn't even have the best career out of the players on his current team.
KomodoDojo Pujols has been playing since 2000, Trout has been playing since 2011. Do you understand how time works? Because Pujols has had much more *time* to put up whatever numbers you’re talking about. In terms of WAR, Trout is unreal and much better than Pujols, and ability wise he’s clearly the best baseball player ever. So idk wtf you’re talking about tbh