they've been slated for gradual retirement in the 2030s for a long time. Of course, who knows what will happen between now and then. They might be kept around like the nighthawks and pulled out of retirement to do things
The A-10 Thunderbolt II was supposed to be retired in the late 1980s, then again in the mid 1990s, the again in the mid 2000s, then around the end of 2010s. They were dreamed obsolete back in 1990s and were scheduled for decommissioning. During his first presidency, American president, Donald J. Trump, approved of the A-10 to receive new longer wings with more hard mounting spots. When Donald J. Trump becomes the American president again, in 2025, he will concentrate on making the United States of America energy independent again. The savings from purchasing far less foreign petroleum, and petrol gas, will probably be used for upgrades to proven military technologies, help American infrastructure, return careers to United States of America and even Canada, and reduce the strangle hold China has on the American economy.
I feel like it’s not gonna retire until it gets at least 1 air to air kill (something besides a balloon). It does seem like it’s gonna be that stubborn
Would be a shame to spend billions developing literally the best fighter jet ever created just to have it's only confirmed kill being a spy balloon before retirement. Upgrading it to meet 6th gen standards makes way more sense than doing the whole process over again with the NGAD program imo.
When the past American President, Donald J. Trump, returns to be the American president again, in 2025. The enormous amounts of money President Donald J. Trump will save the United States of America by allowing the nation to use its own petroleum, there will likely be a lot more upgrades to American military hardware, and also reduce the strangle hold the Chinese have on the economy of the United States of America. There will be more changes to United States of America in 2025. I envy my American brothers and sisters. L
I live by an air force base. They're constantly trying to get some stationed here. Hope they get em 1 day cause seeing that thing ripping in the sky would be sick. What an engineering marvel
May it never come to it but it will still be interesting how our F22 raptor does against other so called stealth and next generation air superiority fighters for example the j-20 in real air combat.
Sometimes, you need a chainsaw and not a precision chisel. Old conventional is the chainsaw. It's just like how I like my car naturally aspirated old school torque converter automatic or manual, and not some turbo, hybrid, or EV with a CVT or electric gearbox.
The mighty warbird will retire one day. When the nations no longer have conflicts, people treat each other like the family they truly are, peace reigns all over the planet, and there is no more war, the mighty warbird will rest. Until then that grande day, that the good await, and the evil will lament, the warrior must fly on.
Any fighter is only as good as the guy in the seat. And the F-22 has some of the best prepared pilots in the world. Glad to see they're not letting these aircraft go to seed
The Raptor is my absolute favorite. Used to be the Tomcat but this jet took over for me when I was in middle school when it came out. Honing a Supreme blade makes sense instead of waiting for the ngad.
I juat saw F-22s takeoff from Savanah Hilton Head Airport. Im still in awe how the fast the go vertical straight up to like 10-20000 ft. Nothing like seeing them.
'Do not go gentle into that good night...old age should burn and rave at close of day...rage, rage against the dying of the light'...this poem moves me every time...also in connection with the Raptor.
When you are surrounded you have the enemy exactly where you want them. Now you can attack in any direction. Great Video. Cancelling the F22 was very short sighted.
Need to get this info to Growling Sidewinder ASAP! Need to see that new helmet added to the F-22 in DCS! Really though, great news. Seems like an actual appropriate use of military budget for once. Thanks, Sandboxx!
Man.....don't apologize for anything. Your content is some of the absolute best in the business, and since our business is world class, that makes your content some of the best in the world.
That peregrine missile is big change for both F22s & F35s, when your talking about doubling your missile load out. Extended range, drone wingman and upgrades in EW to go along with better missiles, looking harder and harder to cross to Taiwan.
Alex, thank you for covering this. As remarkable as the F-22 still is, its lack of IRST is a significant disadvantage. It’s reassuring knowing that upgrades are at least being tested and considered. This channel has been and continues to be informative and trustworthy. As a viewer, I appreciate your citations and accurate information gathering. Always concise, and well narrated.
Hopefully they can put on the new more durable RAM paint. Everybody says that old stuff does not like rain and cost way to much in time and money to keep good.
This is the reason the tax payers get to pay for a new 6th gen fighter. It’s so extremely expensive to use that they need a new fighter! If they could cut the fly hour cost by a huge margin this plane could live on a bit longer. Fantastic plane either way, the new upgrades will serve it well for sure.
It's a potentially ridiculous idea but after seeing those stealth pods I can't help but imagine E-22 and E-35 variants for electronic warfare and early warning.
There's a potentially huge problem with the stealth fuel pods: if they're coated with the same top-secret radar absorbing material, and they're being dropped as the plane no longer needs them, won't that give away samples of the RAM coating to any enemy who recovers one of these pods? Is it worth giving away the secret coating just to extend the range of the F-22?
I understand that but I think possibly what they are thinking is that even with the material they would not be able to replicate it nor know the maintaince needed for it. I don't entirely agree with process but at the same time despite being able to legally buy engines and hiring engineers from europe and the US china has still yet to master jet engines....for passenger planes to the level needed to make reliable engines for even those.
The challenge isn't just in knowing the secret formula, it's in being able to actually produce and apply it. That's why it's so expensive. You can maybe do some testing on the dropped pods, but that's not really the same thing. Either way, the benefit of flexibility is paramount. You can always choose NOT to use the pods, but you can never use them until you have them. There are many situations where, yes, it would be preferable to have the range to complete missions than to leave the fleet sitting at home unused because you can't risk a carrier getting close enough (or whatever).
@@Cyrribrae Basically the worst case is that they get a boost in development and they might gather enough material to apply it to a few aircraft but again they would lack maintaince needed to keep the material working
@@kumiq17 My concern is that it is still a huge advantage for such a pod to be captured or recovered. They (presumably China or Russia, but more likely a collaboration of the two) could test it to see what radio or IR frequencies work best to detect it, and any number of other things that I would prefer them not to be able to do. I strongly suspect there would be an effort to recover such a pod it were known that a bunch of these were scattered somewhere. I really hope they have self-destruct mechanisms built in so they don't float if dropped on water. At least when they sink to the bottom of the ocean, recovering them will be far more difficult.
@@Berkana it's really just probably not that big of a deal. These things are fragile to begin with (the coating, not the pod), which is why they have to spend so much maintenance time on them. Again, you can do a little testing, but it's not really the same. (IR testing doesn't make any sense anyway). And it's not like it's a secret what bands work best - there's not some secret radio wave that suddenly negates stealth. And the pods are different shapes on the plane compared to on the ground. The US makes weapons that are ready to be used. China and Russia do what you suggest: make big claims to the press, but never show, rarely test, and try to be scary. That strategy works online, but it's shown serious shortcomings against Ukraine, for example. So no, having the capability is much better than pretending you have the capability or simply having nothing.
749 F-22s available today would mean we wouldn't hear a peep out of Russia and China today. Congress commissioning a recent study to find out what it would cost to restart the F-22 production line is an acknowledgement that it was a massive mistake to cut the buy.
@@Chuck_HooksIt would be a massive mistake to restart production for F-22s. The F-22 is not designed for a fight in the Pacific and is too dated to support CCAs. The extreme costs of restarting production would push back NGAD for years. These costs would be better spent in producing a new, modern, purpose built fighter to combat China.
Nope. The thing is, nobody outside of China really knows what the J 20's abilities are. Is it built like far too many Chinese constriction projects, or is it actually good? Without real combat data we don't and won't know.
@@tommanseau6277you can still speculate from the clues we've seen. It's not like we need to be 100% sure of anything, since we're in a casual environment.
Pretty much. Definitely still a threat, though. Much better to be prepared for anything, especially because air dominance plays a role in DETERRANCE as well, not just in actual combat.
@@matthewstrange3778 The SU57 still doesn’t have LoS visual targeting. Russians still think we’re in a dogfighting era? Is your comment some kind of joke?
Don't get it twisted. As sad as it is to say (as I worked on the F-22) the F-22 is in it's twilight years. These upgrades are simply there to keep the F-22 as up to date as possible before NGAD.
I definitely agree. It is nuts to see how many F22 fanboys refuse to accept that it is becoming outdated. Sure it is an amazing aircraft (and a sexy one at that) but it isn't designed nor ready for a fight in the Pacific.
met someone at a gunshow who once flew f-22s. you'd never know it as he was about 350 pounds wearing a sweat stained star wars shirt that almost reached his belly button and the massive glasses. he said the f-22 could actually fly in space and reach orbit- said during the bin laden raid he was called in last minute to do emergency close air support. he made it from his base in arizona to pokistan in 27 minutes, dropped a few bombs, and made it home 30 minutes later. he told his wife he was getting an oil change heh. that guy was awesome. he also did a stint in delta force as a sniper but couldn't talk about it except for taking out bin ladens body double in downtown karachi the day before 9/11.
He lied to you. I've met dozens of these BS artists... okay, first, lets start with his BS about Binladens body double- if it were true, he wouldn't be able to talk about it. #2 - the F22 has air breathing engines - space doesn't have air, so... "do the math", as they say. 😂
The new stealth pods could also be used by 4th generation fighters to reduce their radar signatures too. So, I would assume that in the future, the military with eventually make these pods standard issue in high threat environments.
I'd be very surprised if NGAD development depended much, if at all, on the status of F22 upgrades. Well, the money perhaps, but I don't think you're going to speedup R&D that much even with more money. Maybe later on, when NGAD is doing well, they can shift money to speed up production and stuff. But I don't think we're quite there yet.
Hey Alex! 👊😎 Really enjoyed this one and it brought a whole new light to the scorpion HMD. The same issue will be implemented as the same to submarines USA or otherwise. Submarines have a well. Let's call it for simplistic terms a. Wikipedia of sound transmissions for damn near every ship and submarine in the world. As we all know, sound travels a lot further. Underwater than it does in the air. Now grabbing on to a heat. Signature of an aircraft will be much difficult, more difficult due to the fact that the heat signature of an aircraft changes all the time. Angles of reflections for stealth is great. China making the j20 stealthy on a 12 to 12 where the size is much more limited than a side angle at 3 to 9. Clock references or even a 6 heat signature going to FLIR circumstances. Especially when it comes to a BVR. Then just like in Vietnam it's going to turn into a VID before committing. I did take notice that the raptors heat signature was never shown in this volume of your tutorial. I believe the F-22 is an excellent test bed for our 6th generation fighters that are OTW. ASAP ! No doubt ! With the drones to run as blockers or wide receivers in football terms. Now in A symmetrical warfare circumstances where nothing but bogeys will be from our 9:00 to 3:00 and time references that'll be no problem. It's just not military aircraft s just like submarines they have to have the entire Wikipedia of the flir from civilian to military to get a good BVR justified contact. God I hope the other one being a friendly will have a good one as well 🕊️ I really wish that the USAF they were talking about it about 2 or 3 years ago sending the YF-23 to Japan knowing that the super Cruise was well above the mark. Heat signature reduced to almost nil. Using the same practices as NASA and the space shuttle. Just adding kennard's to the end of the wings to take care of the asset of thrust vectoring. Which was shown to be more effective. 99% of all testing is computerized now as we all know. They can work out most of the bugs before it even gets built. We've come a long way. Really appreciate all the work that you put into your tutorials. Alex and if nobody else has said it I surely will. Thank you so much for your service. Please keep them coming. God bless 🕊️🕊️🕊️
It's worrisome that we are so concerned with being ready in the short-term for a war with China (this combined with stuff like buying the wedgetail instead of developing something more capable that wouldn't be ready for 10 years). Things are going badly.
Hopefully the stories coming out about China's economy tanking are true. And as long as they believe it to be too costly, or downright unsuccessful to invade Taiwan, things won't go badly. Guess those are big ifs...
You should cover the new V-280 Valor and the X-defiant prototypes. iirc the army was looking at the X-Defiant to replace the blackhawk but is now going with the Raider X. It's interesting how we're essentially getting both a (hopefully better) Osprey and a modular blackhawk-like helicopter that can even fulfill attack roles.
9:32 Aww...Dang! I was hoping for a Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Watterson-esque cartoon drawing... I'm not yet sure who should bear the greater share of responsibility for my disappointment, Devil Dog; you or myself... 😆
Well that sounds like the opposite of retirement. Approved.
Needs to be capable all the way up until that time!
they've been slated for gradual retirement in the 2030s for a long time. Of course, who knows what will happen between now and then. They might be kept around like the nighthawks and pulled out of retirement to do things
Sounds like F22 will be fighting in WWIII
The A-10 Thunderbolt II was supposed to be retired in the late 1980s, then again in the mid 1990s, the again in the mid 2000s, then around the end of 2010s. They were dreamed obsolete back in 1990s and were scheduled for decommissioning. During his first presidency, American president, Donald J. Trump, approved of the A-10 to receive new longer wings with more hard mounting spots. When Donald J. Trump becomes the American president again, in 2025, he will concentrate on making the United States of America energy independent again. The savings from purchasing far less foreign petroleum, and petrol gas, will probably be used for upgrades to proven military technologies, help American infrastructure, return careers to United States of America and even Canada, and reduce the strangle hold China has on the American economy.
Amen brother!
We all knew that beast wasn't ready for retirement. 🇺🇸💪
@juancarrero1119 Hercules.
But also yes.
I feel like it’s not gonna retire until it gets at least 1 air to air kill (something besides a balloon). It does seem like it’s gonna be that stubborn
Let the kid eat!
Would be a shame to spend billions developing literally the best fighter jet ever created just to have it's only confirmed kill being a spy balloon before retirement. Upgrading it to meet 6th gen standards makes way more sense than doing the whole process over again with the NGAD program imo.
When the past American President, Donald J. Trump, returns to be the American president again, in 2025. The enormous amounts of money President Donald J. Trump will save the United States of America by allowing the nation to use its own petroleum, there will likely be a lot more upgrades to American military hardware, and also reduce the strangle hold the Chinese have on the economy of the United States of America. There will be more changes to United States of America in 2025. I envy my American brothers and sisters. L
Took my 12 year old daughter to an air show with the F-22. F-22 is now her phone wallpaper. When you see it you know.
That is awesome to hear.
It’s a menacing yet gorgeous plane.
I live by an air force base. They're constantly trying to get some stationed here. Hope they get em 1 day cause seeing that thing ripping in the sky would be sick. What an engineering marvel
That's super awesome!
Love her already… I have a 16 y.o. she can meet in a few years. 🤣
Hell yeah, love the HLC shoutout, "would you intercept me, I'd intercept me"
-- Sincerely, Buffalo Bill
Theme: Q Lazarus, Goodbye Horses
So hard...
when’d he say that
Hlc?
Habitual Line Crosser. Watch his stuff, it's hilarious.
"Would you intercept me?"
*licks lips
"I'd intercept me.."
*gyrates hips with malicious intent
I would intercept me!
Okay habituallinecrosser
(Does Silence of the Lambs Dance)
*Vectors thrust with malicious intent
@@williammartin9751 YES! Omg this is so much better. Gonna use it from now on.
Hostile aircraft: Ha! We got you surrounded F-22.
F-22 (in HLC voice): Good. Now I will be able to finally put max effort in
Bad guys: Why do I hear final boss music?
May it never come to it but it will still be interesting how our F22 raptor does against other so called stealth and next generation air superiority fighters for example the j-20 in real air combat.
Cringe
F22: I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me.
Bad guys: Maybe you can't count, but there's four of us and only one of you.
f-22: So go get some more guys and we'll make it and even fight.
*F-22 Is pure, military-grade American Muscle*
"Would you intercept me? I would intercept me!" Iykyk😂
Its interesting cause as a kid i was sad all the 4th gen fighters were getting replaced by the f22/f35 but crazy how time changes things
Sometimes, you need a chainsaw and not a precision chisel. Old conventional is the chainsaw. It's just like how I like my car naturally aspirated old school torque converter automatic or manual, and not some turbo, hybrid, or EV with a CVT or electric gearbox.
@@DroneStrike1776 F35 will be able to control drone wingmen in the future allowing the F35 to access an arsenal the F16 couldn't even dream off
@@DroneStrike1776
For sure and end of the day wars are won with economic weapons if they are still viable but 700+ raptor orders was crazy back then
The day the king will fly into the sunset and be replaced will come, but not today.
The mighty warbird will retire one day. When the nations no longer have conflicts, people treat each other like the family they truly are, peace reigns all over the planet, and there is no more war, the mighty warbird will rest. Until then that grande day, that the good await, and the evil will lament, the warrior must fly on.
@@indridcold8433Cringe ASF
@@indridcold8433 that day will never come
@@teaser6089 The sad thing is, you are likely very correct, even if you do not want to be.
@@teaser6089unfortunately our governments have a lot of people that can’t use the upper brain
Any fighter is only as good as the guy in the seat. And the F-22 has some of the best prepared pilots in the world. Glad to see they're not letting these aircraft go to seed
The exact reason why Russia is losing the war.
Eventually that pilot is going to be AI. The limits on g forces then becomes material strength, not human limitations.
@@RazyrDiarmait that and terrible equipment compared to nato lol
Cool story bro. So, uh, why did inferior iranian pilots annihilate Saddam's experienced pilots? Oh right, the technical advantage.
"Would you intercept me? I'd intercept me." The F-22
Let me just say. This is one of the best channels of it's type on social media. Nice job.
The Raptor is my absolute favorite. Used to be the Tomcat but this jet took over for me when I was in middle school when it came out. Honing a Supreme blade makes sense instead of waiting for the ngad.
Not as much as producing our promised 750 aircraft. 🫡
Me too, I used to love the F14 after driving past Miramar NAS every day to work in the late 80's (Top Gun). But the F22 is just tits.
The Big Cat will always be my favorite bar none, but the Raptor cannot be touched.
Two beautiful planes, love them both.
@@GT-mq1dxthe big cat, as in the massive Indian 747 with a cat painted on its front?
I juat saw F-22s takeoff from Savanah Hilton Head Airport. Im still in awe how the fast the go vertical straight up to like 10-20000 ft. Nothing like seeing them.
'Do not go gentle into that good night...old age should burn and rave at close of day...rage, rage against the dying of the light'...this poem moves me every time...also in connection with the Raptor.
As forgettable as it was for me as a teenager in the late eighties, I recently realized it moves me now as well
sounds like you want to make the world a worse place for others as your last action. no dignity
The F-22 is like that old grandpa who says he’s going to retire but never does
B-52: When I was your age...
@@jtho8937ha, but truth!!!
But is still quite capable of no struggle kicking your ass...
He has "old man strength." 😮
Or that one prize fighter that was kept from the competitions because no one was good enough to let him warm up on
When you are surrounded you have the enemy exactly where you want them. Now you can attack in any direction. Great Video. Cancelling the F22 was very short sighted.
The Wehrmacht at Stalingrad probably beg to differ.
Again amazing F-22 stock photo from Poland.
Ofc with Bełchatow power plant in the background ;).
Speedy recovery brother
The F-22 Raptor, still “kicking arse”. ✊🇺🇸👍
Need to get this info to Growling Sidewinder ASAP! Need to see that new helmet added to the F-22 in DCS! Really though, great news. Seems like an actual appropriate use of military budget for once. Thanks, Sandboxx!
United States : the f22 is being retired.
Russia : yes! Now we attack!
United states: pyske
*Psych
Such a dope airplane. I got to see one at an air show, it was something I will always remember.
HLC reference!!!!!! Love both these guys.
Damn Alex Hollings! You continue to have the greatest content. I’ve been following you since the SofRep days
YES! Keep the F22 Raptor fighting!!
"into that good night". He said the line! Thankyou for great work
Love your content man keep it up 👍
Get well soon. Thanks for the info.
Take care Alex, we will be here when you get back.
Man.....don't apologize for anything. Your content is some of the absolute best in the business, and since our business is world class, that makes your content some of the best in the world.
That peregrine missile is big change for both F22s & F35s, when your talking about doubling your missile load out. Extended range, drone wingman and upgrades in EW to go along with better missiles, looking harder and harder to cross to Taiwan.
Peregrine does not even exist yet😂
I love this plane! I’m glad we’ll have them around awhile.
Alex, thank you for covering this. As remarkable as the F-22 still is, its lack of IRST is a significant disadvantage. It’s reassuring knowing that upgrades are at least being tested and considered.
This channel has been and continues to be informative and trustworthy. As a viewer, I appreciate your citations and accurate information gathering. Always concise, and well narrated.
Hopefully they can put on the new more durable RAM paint. Everybody says that old stuff does not like rain and cost way to much in time and money to keep good.
This is the reason the tax payers get to pay for a new 6th gen fighter. It’s so extremely expensive to use that they need a new fighter! If they could cut the fly hour cost by a huge margin this plane could live on a bit longer. Fantastic plane either way, the new upgrades will serve it well for sure.
Feel better, Alex, thanks.
Thank you Alex and only the very best for you.
Most of F22s have more than half life left
That's about $70 million dollars per plane for an upgrade! Wowza!
So what’s the flying cost per hour of this marvel of engineering?
@harrysamwel3665 50-60 thousand. It cost to have the most premier fighter in the world. I feel safer having it. 🇺🇸
It's a potentially ridiculous idea but after seeing those stealth pods I can't help but imagine E-22 and E-35 variants for electronic warfare and early warning.
I think the f35 or a pack of them already can..
Best wishes from Australia Alex. Get better soon mate.
Great video and info as usual, thank you Alex. Some of the F-15 footage was shot from right here in Okinawa.
Alex is the goat
Ha! I always figured they'd be upgraded. They're just too good to be mothballed or scrapped.
What a cool plane and a totally different plane even now before the upgrade than it was when it first came out.
This is great news! GOD bless America
Good health and God bless you.
Thank you for all you do for us, your fans!
Get better soon Alex! 😊
Great vid again…hope you feel better soon Alex!
"This feature [IRST] was fairly new when the raptor program opted to omit..." Wrong. And, no discussion of why that decision was made.
Cost is the reason
Can you say "Obama"?
I'm beginning to think with ceramic RAM and the new RDE dual mode scramjets, 6th generation fighters might be hypersonic.
This upgrade can’t come fast enough!!
The actual Dylan Thomas quote is, “Do not go gentle into that good night”.
The F-22 won’t let any adversaries go gentle into the night.
@@kenjifox4264 touché
"We're surrounded"
"Great, every direction is target-rich"
We're surrounded? That simplifies the problem.
Good night Chesty wherever you are! Semper Fi ! Thanks Alex
Habitual Linecrosser mentioned. Nice.
Thank Barry for allowing the short sightedness of the production line. Long live the Fighters!
I was wondering if anyone would acknowledge that fact.
He almost did as much damage to America as the so-called current idiot.
Good call.
I'm thinking the same thing
Barry?
🎖️🤗🏆🙏
Thank you for sharing
"Would you intercept me? I'd intercept me" LOL
There's a potentially huge problem with the stealth fuel pods: if they're coated with the same top-secret radar absorbing material, and they're being dropped as the plane no longer needs them, won't that give away samples of the RAM coating to any enemy who recovers one of these pods? Is it worth giving away the secret coating just to extend the range of the F-22?
I understand that but I think possibly what they are thinking is that even with the material they would not be able to replicate it nor know the maintaince needed for it.
I don't entirely agree with process but at the same time despite being able to legally buy engines and hiring engineers from europe and the US china has still yet to master jet engines....for passenger planes to the level needed to make reliable engines for even those.
The challenge isn't just in knowing the secret formula, it's in being able to actually produce and apply it. That's why it's so expensive. You can maybe do some testing on the dropped pods, but that's not really the same thing. Either way, the benefit of flexibility is paramount. You can always choose NOT to use the pods, but you can never use them until you have them. There are many situations where, yes, it would be preferable to have the range to complete missions than to leave the fleet sitting at home unused because you can't risk a carrier getting close enough (or whatever).
@@Cyrribrae Basically the worst case is that they get a boost in development and they might gather enough material to apply it to a few aircraft but again they would lack maintaince needed to keep the material working
@@kumiq17 My concern is that it is still a huge advantage for such a pod to be captured or recovered. They (presumably China or Russia, but more likely a collaboration of the two) could test it to see what radio or IR frequencies work best to detect it, and any number of other things that I would prefer them not to be able to do. I strongly suspect there would be an effort to recover such a pod it were known that a bunch of these were scattered somewhere.
I really hope they have self-destruct mechanisms built in so they don't float if dropped on water. At least when they sink to the bottom of the ocean, recovering them will be far more difficult.
@@Berkana it's really just probably not that big of a deal. These things are fragile to begin with (the coating, not the pod), which is why they have to spend so much maintenance time on them. Again, you can do a little testing, but it's not really the same. (IR testing doesn't make any sense anyway). And it's not like it's a secret what bands work best - there's not some secret radio wave that suddenly negates stealth. And the pods are different shapes on the plane compared to on the ground.
The US makes weapons that are ready to be used. China and Russia do what you suggest: make big claims to the press, but never show, rarely test, and try to be scary. That strategy works online, but it's shown serious shortcomings against Ukraine, for example.
So no, having the capability is much better than pretending you have the capability or simply having nothing.
At the end, you mentioned my favorite Gen Puller quote.
749 F-22s available today would mean we wouldn't hear a peep out of Russia and China today.
Congress commissioning a recent study to find out what it would cost to restart the F-22 production line is an acknowledgement that it was a massive mistake to cut the buy.
don't think things work like that
@@ferrous3262 Congress seeing about restarting F-22 production says otherwise
@@Chuck_Hooks nuclear weapons remain supreme
@@blue_ish4499 Only useful if you're the only one who has them.
Conventional overmatch keeps American enemies quiet
@@Chuck_HooksIt would be a massive mistake to restart production for F-22s. The F-22 is not designed for a fight in the Pacific and is too dated to support CCAs. The extreme costs of restarting production would push back NGAD for years. These costs would be better spent in producing a new, modern, purpose built fighter to combat China.
Stay well, Alex.
Am I the only one who thinks the J20 is little more than a stealthish missile truck?
Nope. The thing is, nobody outside of China really knows what the J 20's abilities are. Is it built like far too many Chinese constriction projects, or is it actually good? Without real combat data we don't and won't know.
It's totally invisible..
..to Chinese radar
@@tommanseau6277you can still speculate from the clues we've seen. It's not like we need to be 100% sure of anything, since we're in a casual environment.
That's likely exactly what the J20 is... Which is still a weapon to be feared.
Pretty much. Definitely still a threat, though. Much better to be prepared for anything, especially because air dominance plays a role in DETERRANCE as well, not just in actual combat.
A lot detailed information on the F22, good stuff thanks for the upload Alex. I hope you get well soon and “fly low 🏴☠️ hit hard” 💪
The F-22 is a beast. 18 years later it towers above the newest Russian fighters.
Russian fighters have had off bore sight targeting for decades, f22 was way behind in that regard.
@@matthewstrange3778 The SU57 still doesn’t have LoS visual targeting. Russians still think we’re in a dogfighting era? Is your comment some kind of joke?
@@DemsRNutlessno it's not a joke it's the truth. Su 35 probably beats f 22 honestly.
Great content as always
Sandboxx is my most trusted military channel!
Get well soon. Take care.
Don't get it twisted. As sad as it is to say (as I worked on the F-22) the F-22 is in it's twilight years. These upgrades are simply there to keep the F-22 as up to date as possible before NGAD.
I definitely agree. It is nuts to see how many F22 fanboys refuse to accept that it is becoming outdated. Sure it is an amazing aircraft (and a sexy one at that) but it isn't designed nor ready for a fight in the Pacific.
Thank you!!! Logic has prevailed.
met someone at a gunshow who once flew f-22s. you'd never know it as he was about 350 pounds wearing a sweat stained star wars shirt that almost reached his belly button and the massive glasses. he said the f-22 could actually fly in space and reach orbit- said during the bin laden raid he was called in last minute to do emergency close air support. he made it from his base in arizona to pokistan in 27 minutes, dropped a few bombs, and made it home 30 minutes later. he told his wife he was getting an oil change heh. that guy was awesome. he also did a stint in delta force as a sniper but couldn't talk about it except for taking out bin ladens body double in downtown karachi the day before 9/11.
That was a well thought out comment:)
He lied to you.
I've met dozens of these BS artists...
okay, first, lets start with his BS about Binladens body double- if it were true, he wouldn't be able to talk about it.
#2 - the F22 has air breathing engines - space doesn't have air, so... "do the math", as they say. 😂
The new stealth pods could also be used by 4th generation fighters to reduce their radar signatures too. So, I would assume that in the future, the military with eventually make these pods standard issue in high threat environments.
Better to have fewer F22s and get NGADs earlier.
I'd be very surprised if NGAD development depended much, if at all, on the status of F22 upgrades. Well, the money perhaps, but I don't think you're going to speedup R&D that much even with more money. Maybe later on, when NGAD is doing well, they can shift money to speed up production and stuff. But I don't think we're quite there yet.
Get well soon, Alex!
Stil want the yf23. Put it on a flat top, long range.... best looking plane ever.
Hey Alex! 👊😎 Really enjoyed this one and it brought a whole new light to the scorpion HMD. The same issue will be implemented as the same to submarines USA or otherwise. Submarines have a well. Let's call it for simplistic terms a. Wikipedia of sound transmissions for damn near every ship and submarine in the world. As we all know, sound travels a lot further. Underwater than it does in the air. Now grabbing on to a heat. Signature of an aircraft will be much difficult, more difficult due to the fact that the heat signature of an aircraft changes all the time. Angles of reflections for stealth is great. China making the j20 stealthy on a 12 to 12 where the size is much more limited than a side angle at 3 to 9. Clock references or even a 6 heat signature going to FLIR circumstances. Especially when it comes to a BVR. Then just like in Vietnam it's going to turn into a VID before committing. I did take notice that the raptors heat signature was never shown in this volume of your tutorial. I believe the F-22 is an excellent test bed for our 6th generation fighters that are OTW. ASAP ! No doubt ! With the drones to run as blockers or wide receivers in football terms. Now in A symmetrical warfare circumstances where nothing but bogeys will be from our 9:00 to 3:00 and time references that'll be no problem. It's just not military aircraft s just like submarines they have to have the entire Wikipedia of the flir from civilian to military to get a good BVR justified contact. God I hope the other one being a friendly will have a good one as well 🕊️ I really wish that the USAF they were talking about it about 2 or 3 years ago sending the YF-23 to Japan knowing that the super Cruise was well above the mark. Heat signature reduced to almost nil. Using the same practices as NASA and the space shuttle. Just adding kennard's to the end of the wings to take care of the asset of thrust vectoring. Which was shown to be more effective. 99% of all testing is computerized now as we all know. They can work out most of the bugs before it even gets built. We've come a long way. Really appreciate all the work that you put into your tutorials. Alex and if nobody else has said it I surely will. Thank you so much for your service. Please keep them coming. God bless 🕊️🕊️🕊️
It's worrisome that we are so concerned with being ready in the short-term for a war with China (this combined with stuff like buying the wedgetail instead of developing something more capable that wouldn't be ready for 10 years). Things are going badly.
Hopefully the stories coming out about China's economy tanking are true. And as long as they believe it to be too costly, or downright unsuccessful to invade Taiwan, things won't go badly. Guess those are big ifs...
Get better soon, brother. Enjoyed your video as always. Keep up the good work!
Keep up the great work Alex and team. Awesome channel.
Glad to hear the news
Get well Alex and great content as usual!
YF-23 Supremacy 🕷️🕷️🕷️
I really am proud of the 22. Hope you feel better quick, Alex...
You should cover the new V-280 Valor and the X-defiant prototypes. iirc the army was looking at the X-Defiant to replace the blackhawk but is now going with the Raider X. It's interesting how we're essentially getting both a (hopefully better) Osprey and a modular blackhawk-like helicopter that can even fulfill attack roles.
I worked at Lockheed Martin on the F-22 program for it's 10 year run. They should have built all 755 like they originally were supposed to.
Still should.
Another outstanding video. Great job Alex, as always.
Hope your medical situation improves…prayers lifted 🙏
Take care of yourself first Alex, we cannot do without you.
9:32 Aww...Dang!
I was hoping for a Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Watterson-esque cartoon drawing...
I'm not yet sure who should bear the greater share of responsibility for my disappointment, Devil Dog; you or myself...
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SHE LIVES!! YES!! WOOOOOOOOOO!
First time seeing a Rapter in the wild a couple days ago. Such a beautiful plane!
Killer shit man.
Thank You!
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In the middle of a dog fight then you get a software update..... LOL
F22: “they’ve got me surrounded… those poor bastards”.
Were surrounded!😢
F22: ..Finally!
A real challenge! 😎
Alex making the best content on the tube! Every video I'm sad when it ends. I love this channel so much!
“King Raptor, ready for takeoff.”
If you know, you know…
Thanks Alex! All the health for my rocker!