Grundig Trento a/WE Radiogram Pt 3 - The Cabinet
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- I was given this Grundig radiogram, it's in good condition but needs a thorough going over. This week I tackle the cabinet, it's in good condition but needs work, I find someone has been in here before and I attempt to reverse the damage. I assemble the components and give it a test drive.
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The output transformer/s I require are Grundig Part Nos 9048-074.08 or 9048-074.09. Any transformer with 9048-074 will do, the last two digits are mounting options (I think). The specs for the transformer are 11k Ohms primary with centre tap and approx. 5 Ohm secondary. If you can help please leave a comment. Thank you.
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This is another one of those restorations where it's hard to tell which is most admirable, your extraordinary knowledge and skill or your legendary patience and persistence to do the job right. Lucky for us, neither is ever in short supply.
Haha... thanks Moshe 😄
I realize it is pretty randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to watch new tv shows online ?
David your production quality is the perfect companion to your restoration and repair work.
Thanks jonka1. I try 👍🙂
Thank You David for this restoration. We had the same model Grundig in our home when I was 10yo lad for many years. We thought we were Christmas owning this "Stereo" at the time. We had many family parties where the Grundig played all night long. Hearing he sound and tone really took me back to my happy carefree childhood. Seeing it restored in all its glory reminded me of when Dad bought it home in the Premier wagon with the neighbor helping to carry it in. I truly hope you get as much pleasure from yours as we did ours. Great to listen to the footy on too, lol.
Hi John, It took me back too when I heard it, amazing. We had a number of house parties back in the day, Pimm's was in high demand I recall. You were lucky to have a stereo radiogram 😄
There is no doubt about it, you set a standard the rest of us have to live up to......bloody awesome work.
Thanks Harb 😀
Well, this was a surprise. I have just finished repairing a couple of electrostatic tweeters for the Telefunken Dacapo project, and will have the video ready for publication tomorrow. I won’t give any spoilers, but I guess this is “electrostatic tweeter week” 😊
Great job on the woodwork. Love the detail.
Manuel & Dave Should get together maybe halfway in between how about laying on the beach in San Diego California.
Thank you Manuel, I will be very interested to see what and how you did yours, I couldn't find a lot of info on them. I hope you had better luck than me, looking forward to your video 😀
That would be a sight Mack 😄
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This segment brought back so many memories! My Uncle Victorio had that exact stereo. As a little boy in the 50's I was so amazed at the sound. Uncle Victorio sure knew how to live I used to think. He was larger than life to me!
Thank you theBigMoose, these old sets invoke memories of the 'good old days', it still sounds great today. Thanks theBigMoose 🙂
The amount of fabrication on making the rear cover panel was absolutely in good hands. Few of us would ever consider making one. You get two massive
thumbs up on both handling the asbestos and repair of the veneer on the outside of the cabinet.👍🏻👍🏻 Your electrostatic speaker repair failed because
the plastic must be stretched over the metal frame. The edges must be adhered to the metal like a diaphragm. The tightness was lost over time and
not your fault when doing your repair. All in all David you set the bar really high when it comes to vintage home console repair. Very much impressed. Steve
Hi Steve, thank you. I used double sided tape on one of the speakers but didn't stretch the plastic. I have a few tips on repairing them from comments, maybe I'll get them going again, thanks Steve 👍🙂
Your commitment to returning a quality piece from the dustbin to its proper place is amazing. I hope you get the pleasure you seek with such commitment. I applaud you!
Thank you zorka4098, I'm sure I will 🙂
WOW. Your attention to detail, patience and persistence is astounding. And you're right, these units aren't HiFi but they do have that special sound and vibe to them. Watching those auto changers do their thing absolutely captivated me as a small boy. They still do.
Thanks Dale, indeed, it's 1965 when I turn it on and it fills the room with sound. The auto changer is a marvel to watch, an analogue computer 😀
Philips and Grundig worked together on many products. My German grandparents used to say that Grundig looked great but was not well put together and Philips had good components even in their cheaper products. They tended to buy Telefunken and BrAun. This series brought back memories of my childhood holidays in Germany.
Hi Ethel, I would probably agree on your Grandparents opinion, that radio is pretty basic in construction but it does work well. It's nice that you have fond memories from childhood 🙂
The dangers of asbestos are VASTLY overstated. Many, many men worked around this stuff for their full time job (while smoking cigarettes) and didn't get sick from it. Getting exposed to a few fibers 1 time is not going to kill you.
You may be right tarstarkusz but I hope I have neutralised it in any case 🙂
Well, David another fantastic restoration. One could almost relive the joy and amazement catching first sight of this unit on the floor of HG Palmers showroom back in the day.
Looking forward to part 3 1/2-4. Pity we are not neighbors I would enjoy listening to you belting out the good old songs on the Grundig Radiogram.🔊
Keep up the good work.
Hi Ernie, thank you. I doubt you would hear anything belting out from my place, my wife likes the volume set at barely audible then turns it down 😄😉
We choose to fix this backboard in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. J F K
"I could just drill some holes and put a screw in the top, that would be easier. I've never done easy." David Tipton
You sir are a absolute legend Dave, your attention to detail is unsurpassed. Aviation Industry I believe you said, It really does show..... Radiogram sounds great by the way. Your music choice was awesome.
The 'moon' speech ! Nice ! :o) Or was it the backboard speech ?! ;o)
What a motivational speaker was JFK and you A Last. I loved your comment and raced to show my wife, we both had a good chuckle. Gotta love the Humperdinck. Thanks A Last 😄🙂
I really like it when my favourite RUclipsrs release a video on the same day at approximately the same time every week. Conversely...
Hi Hamish, same time same day but not every week 😄
That was so much fun to watch ,I can hardly wait for part four. No pressure Dave! LOL! Your right,there is something special about the sound and look of these older units, that just isn't captured with todays technology. I'm so glad you are saving them. When I was young, I had a real old radio from the 20's and later, a unit like the one you just fixed. I hate to say it, but I just didn't know what to do with them. They have been lost to time and entropy. Every day people throw some of these things out. You're stemming the tide of the inevitable. Good show!
I did a 'part four' and replaced the faulty output transformers. They have a different sound for sure, more mellow, not as brash. Thanks Tyrone, you must be running out of videos by now 😄
Your attention to detail even when you are the only one who will ever see it is astonishing. I'm sure you will crack the code of those electrostatic tweeters in the end. Another lovely resto.
Thanks Ian, I hope I can get another crack at the tweeters 😀
Hi Dave. Another brilliant restoration. I just love the comment on the little latch saying I never have done easy. Your ingenuity shows no boundaries. The finish and quality of your work is outstanding. The only problem is I think I have now seen all your restorations at least twice!! Keep up the good work.
Haha... thanks Martin 😀
That's not pretty good. That's just perfect Dave. And I really enjoyed watching you bring this oldie back to life. Thanks!!
Thanks Rene 👍😀
I am so jealous! As a child my friends parents owned a conceal like yours, and we would lay on the floor and listen for hours. What wonderful memories. Thanks for sharing the video. Cheers!
Hi Bruce, I did the same and when this started playing I went back to those days. Thank you Bruce 👍😀
I am russian . I have original german radio " Grundig concert boy 1000 ", 1971 , and " Shaub -Lorens touring " , 1971 ...Thank you Germany for quality !!!!
Grundig made good equipment 👍🙂
Grundig turntable repairs are difficult but done to perfection, cabinet work excellent. Thank you for excellent video.
Mak in Pakistan
Thank you Mak 😊
Nice job David. I love the look of these old Grundigs from the 1960's. Grundig had such a distinctive look. You can spot them from across the room. Love how you manufactured the back panel. A lot of people would of not bothered since you can't see it. That's what I like about your work, your attention to detail. Well done again. Joe
Thank you Joe, I have seen a number of Grundig grams since I pick this one up and they follow a similar look. I could have made a panel with a few slots in it in no time but the copy looks better 🙂
Fine job Dave! The fact that you never do things the easy way makes your videos stand above the others. Also, the introduction your granddaughter does brings a smile every time!
Hi Allen. I enjoy putting in the extra effort, nobody sees it but I know it's there. My granddaughter is a gem 😍 Thanks Allen 🙂
Another great restoration you seem to always overcome obstacles as they come up David. Thanks for showing us how its done.
Thanks LUCKYLARRY, there are plenty of obstacles thrown up to keep me busy 😀
Wow. Just wow. Not only do you do electrical and mechanical repairs, but you are a cabinet maker, as well! Splendid job.
Thanks Saint Michael, jack of all trades, master of none 😄
@@DavidTipton101 You remind me of my Dad. He could do anything. Mechanical (and mechanical drawing) and electronic repairs. Woodworking. Plumbing. Car repairs. Painting. Read philosophy and history. I miss him...
When I was growing up, my parents and many of my aunts and uncles had a "console" stereo with a record player and/or an 8-track tape player.
I remember really enjoying the big, warm sound that came from them.
Most everyone I knew had a radiogram when I was young, I don't remember anyone having an 8 track though. Thanks Rick 🙂
Sensational job Dave, all I can say is "WOW". Deserving of a caffeine fix I would say.
Thanks Graham 😀☕😉
Wow... you whipped out the Humperdinck! I'm impressed all around. Nicely done sir.
Nothing but the best from the 60s. Thanks William 🙂
Strange satisfying feeling when looking at the work quality invested!!! I envy you Dave!! 😜👍🍻 Cheers mate!
No need for envy hadi reg, I'll have a beer though, cheers 🍻🙂
Very, very nice! Love watching what you do to restore these fine devices...
Thank you Volktales 🙂
Dear David what a restoration! About electrostatic tweeters I think that high voltage should polarize the plastic film ( relevant the metal grid). You should check for continuity and distance between the two elements. I believe that correct distance is essential. Tweeters should be connected trough a capacitor (4.7uf?) to avoid high currents (🔥) due bass contents.
Thank you My Messy Lab. I don't understand the exact working principle but the felt presses the plastic membrane firmly against the metal plate, maybe that's why don't work. You are correct, I will fit some caps to the tweeters 👍
Crikey Mate! another great job, Engelbert Humperdink was my mothers' favorite back in the day.....Spanish eyes yup. I got lucky a few years back I found a blond Telefunken Opus 7 for $40 and managed to get it working right. German engineering sounds wonderful. God bless.
Thanks Mike, yes it sounds wonderful, right back to the 60s sound. Good job with the Telefunken for $40, it would fetch more than that these days 😀
Impeccable restoration Dave, beautiful. I love the Howards Restorer, as I've used it now on two projects and it does amazing. The repairs you made on the cabinet were very good, and I learned from you that tape transfer method, so thank you. That lower box turned out robust and fantastic and the attention to detail on the rear cover was some of the best I've seen. What a beautiful piece you now have! Awesome video!
Thank you Gregg. The Restor-A-Finish worked really well, surprisingly well actually, I was lucky to get it in Australia. I have a lead on a OP transformer from a friend in Germany so I hope to have it running properly soon. Thanks 🙂
Fantastic to get the proper part Dave! It's a beautiful piece for your home.
OH wow what a journey, the radio , then the record play and now a fully restored cabinet, i tip my hat off to you. Great job, and as always looking forward to the next adventure, i await with bated breath.
Thanks Stephen, there was quite a bit of work in there 😉😄
Another gem, Dave. You handled the asbestos very well... of course.
Thanks Wayne, always a touchy subject 🙂
@@lesdmark I don't think so, the lacquer shouldn't burn from the amount of heat generated. I'll keep an eye on it though 👍🙂
Brilliant Dave! We had fun too, thanks for sharing!
Thanks James, my pleasure 👍😀
Hi David. Superb job as usual. The cabinet came out really well, and looks stunning. The back cover with all of those holes and the adjustable fixings is good, and is also a fine example of your attention to detail and skills. Shame about the electrostatic speakers, but at least you have overcome the problem and it sounds good. As always another enjoyable video that I thoroughly enjoyed. Cheers Chris.
Thank you Chris. I was very happy with the back panel and disappointed with the speakers but I still have them and maybe one day will get them going again, the tweeters work very well though 👍🙂
I have been looking forward to this 4th part, and now the next and final part to this project. What a master restorer you are. Not only that, you also understand very well the RUclips viewer and how important it is to edit your videos so that repetition isn't a thing. And you are not all over your videos like so many shouty Americans are in theirs, instead, you let the project be the star. Great stuff. I am glad I stumbled upon your lovely channel a few weeks ago. I subscribed immediately, naturally! Over and out from the Czech Republic.
Thanks Project Yeti, the project is the star no doubt about that. Thanks for the sub and welcome, I'm glad you enjoy my videos 😀
David you made that cabinet look new , once again , you've out done yourself , love watching your videos , Sheldon Los Angeles
Thanks Sheldon in LA 😀😀
Again, what a dedication! Amazing surgeries!
Thank you Andres 🙂
Amazing woodworking skills! It's turned out a beauty indeed. Note how the turntable is branded Grundig but manufactured by Philips, according to the label on the back. I recognized the phono cartridge too as typical 60's-70's Philips.
Thanks alpcns. The turntable is straight from Philips 🙂
Beautiful job again David! I am currently restoring a NordMende radiogram with a similar though older design of cabinet, and you have given me some good ideas to make a "trough" for the record player in my model.
Thank you Robert. Yours is missing too? It needs to be sealed I think. The original in mine looked like egg carton cardboard. Good luck with your restoration 👍🙂
The aero engineer in you came out in this one for sure. No one sees much of the aircraft they fly in but it’s nice to know it’s been repaired right! Grundig always seemed to make good quality kit and this one looks really nice. The surface restorer really did a fantastic job. Electrostatic speakers an interesting and unusual choice. Not the easiest to repair. Quad electrostatics cost a kidney to refurb. Nice job once again. Hope you get the minor gremlins sorted in due course.
Thanks Gary. I agree, there's not much room for mistakes in aviation. The electronics were up to Grundig standards, the chipboard cabinet was disappointing and showed their effort to remain completive in the market. I didn't hold much hope for the electrostatic speakers although I have other German sets and the electrostatic speakers work in them 🙂
Excellent results! I'm glad you had a chance to try the Howard's product...I sold that stuff for years and people seem to love it. It sure looks good on your cabinet.
Thanks Don, yep, the Howards worked well, I was surprised and impressed 👍🙂
David, you do AMAZING work!! You're such a wood GURU!!!
Haha... thanks pi-duino 😄
Absolutely brilliant work on this console David. You are also right on the sound quality and ambience that one can feel from this vintage entertainment machine. If you haven't experienced it for yourself then you can't appreciate the results. Thanks for the quick blast to the past with EH and take care!
Thanks John. They aren't anywhere near HiFi but they do sound special and comfortable, like a hot chocolate in your favourite mug 😀
A great result as always - well done ! I don’t know if you found it but the late and much lamented Paul Pinyot did some good work with Electrostatic tweeters. It was all documented on his website which is still archived. I was able to find it in a 2009 snapshot. One of his techniques involved replacing the metallized film with material from
one of those shiny Mylar balloons !
Thanks SInewave423. I don't know of Paul Pinyot but the Mylar balloons sound like a good idea, thanks 👍🙂
That was certainly a superb job (as always) and a wonderfully enjoyable video. And it will almost certainly boost the sales of The Best of Englebert Humperdinck. Cheers Dave.
Thank you Mark. I agree, a number of comments have said they would look up Engelbert Humperdinck, I should be getting a commission 😉🙂
The restoration has been perfect and very good. Greetings from Charles.
Hi Charles, thank you 🙂
You're a magician Dave.
Thanks for posting a great series, looking forward to the next one. 🙂👍
Thank you Draco 10 😀
Your attention to detail is amazing, great vid Dave 👍👍
Thank you waynio67 😀
Fantastic job as usual. That liquid wood restorer works very well. We must have something similar in the UK. Once again thank you for sharing.
Thanks Terry, it's an American product you might be able to get it in the UK. There are other similar products available 🙂
I saw the recovery of the speakers, it reminded me a little bit of the techniques I use for book recovery. To close the holes in the speaker membrane I usually use a technique I use to close holes in book pages: pieces of tissue paper soaked in wallpaper glue, in this case at least 3 layers are used in a mold made in the speaker itself, and then the parts that fit with the hole are cut, and then the sealant is applied to electrical materials.
I wondered about moulding the repair patch to fit the speaker, how do you make the mould Carlos?
@@DavidTipton101I usually use PVC film under a similar part of what I want to copy, then I glue it with tissue paper soaked in wallpaper glue (any glue that is liquid is perfect), then I superimpose the layers so that stay as thick as you want. Once this is done, cut the shape of the hole in the copied part and fit it into the missing part. And to fix it, use a piece of tissue paper and a little liquid glue.
This is roughly how it goes for mending book pages that have holes in them. I can say that the technique is complicated and time-consuming, but at least the result is satisfactory.
What a great job. I know what you mean about playing a record on a cabinet device made for it. the sound is magical.
I couldn't agree more Midnight Wind, just like the old days 😀
Dave as always, This was an epic repair I just love watching your skills unfold, loved every moment, looking forward to the final Demo, hope you and family are keeping well
Best regards Barry
Hi Barry, it was an epic repair but what a beautiful set and full of warmth and olden day appeal. I have a possible link to a transformer in Europe, hopefully that comes through. Thanks Barry, cheers 🙂
Dave, I am in awe of your skills and insights. Makes me wish I lived in Australia, down the street from you.
Haha... thanks Gar 😀
Dave,
Your quality of workmanship is only surpassed by your creative genius! Most people would not go to the amount of detail that you do that makes your work superior to all the rest.
I would like to request an addition to the back panel you created. How about a label that includes important information, like your name, Date worked on, and any other worthwhile information?
Maybe even a URL to the schematic?
Your work is such an inspiration to all of us. Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks Wayne, an info sticker would be a nice touch 🤔🙂
That is an absolute stunner! The cover you made for underneath the record deck probably works better than the factory item.
Thanks Paul, the cover was fun to make 😀
Another Tipton Triumph! Looking forward to Part 4.
Thanks Chris 😀
She's a beauty and that sixties sound is the best
I totally agree KubotaManDan, thanks 😀
Thos Grundig deck are so easy to work on. Well done with your early diagnostics.
Thank you Peter 🙂
Great job Dave ...Flex Seal liquid works well on speaker cones as well I wouldn't be suprised if its the same thing you used with just a different name.. Thanks Dave....Always enjoy your videos ..
Hi Paul, thank you. I did a search for Flex Seal and there are a number of rubber seal products available, you may have opened a new product range for me 🙂
I think that plastic is an electret, and would be polarized during manufacture. Over time, it will depolarize and then it will not work any more. It is similar to a piezo element in how it works I suspect, and isn't actually electrostatic. An electrostatic speaker usually uses three connections usually with the diaphragm connected to the center tap of a transformer through a DC supply, and the two plates on either side connected to the transformer such that the electric field can pull/push the diaphragm using electrostatic forces.
Hi kevtris, I know the modern electrostatic speakers use three elements, I don't really know how these work. The article I read with the guy repairing these had high successes rate. I will do a bit more digging 🙂
It really looks great. This is the first time seeing electrostatic tweeters, I would have used piezo tweeters as a last resort. Love the cabinet restoration.
Thanks Nigel, the piezo speakers are the closest to electrostatic in sound and don't need a crossover... and are cheap 👍😉
You worked really hard on this and it looks great. I hope you resolve the output problem. Thanks again for another brilliant video.
Thanks Ged, I hope so too 👍😀
You are a legend the trouble you go to astounds me love it.
Thanks Chris 👍😄
Another great job Dave 👍 the cabinet looks like new. Well done 💥💥💥
Thank you Trevor 🙂
The liquid tape looks like a great product. I had tried some of the early makes of it and that was not up to par. What I have been using was weather gasket glue for use in automobiles. I purchased a tube for use on my motor home, the weather seal was loose around the front hood where you filled the fluids, every time I opened it, I would have to press the stuff back before I could close it. Well the big tube made quick work of it and I had most of it left. That has held the seal for years. Later while we were touring the South West USA, mostly very arid desert land, the handle on my wife's microwave/convection oven came loose. I examined it, and since the oven was mounted overhead and difficult to disassemble, I used some of that seal to just glue the handle back on the face of the oven. That has also held for years now with no problem. So when I was building a ghost detector for my niece who runs one of those ghost hunting clubs, I had 10 resistors showing on the top of the build, wanting to cover them and make it look a bit more presentable, I covered them with that stuff and it blended in well with the black project box I built it in. That too has worked great, and my niece reports that all the members of her club are very impressed with the build saying it works better and looks better then the 300 buck units they have purchased for the same process. I had built this one with an Arduino as the main processor and averaged the emf before displaying in over the 10 LED'S across the top. Since I was using 18650 equivalent flat pack batteries to power it, I also added an (OH SHIT!!!) button which lite three 3 watt LED's across the front of the unit to give them light to run away with. They loved that part of the unit. I have been offered a few hundred bucks to build more of them but at 70 years of age, I don't really want to start doing such things, as I love not having to punch a clock any more and not having schedules to tell me where to be or what to do. Relaxing and growing old, even absent my better half who went to be with God last year, it is a fairly good life, or ending to what was a very exciting and wonderful life filled with adventures to relive as I sit here and age. I have the pictures I took along the way, and listen to the music I loved as I made my way through the years of my life. Still listen to my WIFI radio almost daily and when I feel the need for one particular song, Alexis is at my elbow and usually finds the song that has grown in the center of my mind and press the need to hear button. Strange the things we have now days that I never dreamed could have existed in my lifetime when I was a boy. (Alexia is now playing Miller's Cave!)
Thanks Jerry, that's a lot to digest. I glad you can still enjoy life after losing your wife. Hopefully it will get easier as time passes 🙂
In another comment it was suggested that the electrostatic speakers may be electrets. This may be the case or this may be single ended rather than dipole type electrostatic speaker. However, this is not the main point of my comment, I noticed that the front of both speakers was a patchy grey colour. The front of these speakers should also be conductive, usually Aquadag would have been painted on uniformly to make a conductive surface. To me it looks as though a large amount of the Aquadag has flaked off and new coat needs to be applied before these speakers will have a chance of working again.
I have a funny feeling that David isn't going to let these tweeters go unrepaired .... I fully expect a followup video in a few months time !
Hi Peter, I wondered about the coating too but the front plate is metal so wasn't sure what to do, why would it need a conductive coating on metal? I just put the meter across some good areas of the coating and it indeed appears to be conductive, the plot thickens 🤔🙂
While I don't know much about these particular electrostatic tweeters I have had some experience in repairing and maintaining my Quad ESL57 speakers, which are a dipole type. If you are interested trying to get your tweeters working, have a look at this link: www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174153 this may help. The front side of your speaker looks patchy but what is important is the Aquadag layer on the other side and the connection from the front. The speaker is just capacitor with one plate being the Aquadag layer on the rear of the perforated panel, then the dielectric being the diaphragm, usually Mylar, and finally the other plate is the conductive layer on the back of the diaphragm. My guess is there is no connection front to back of the perforated panel or if it is connected the charge distribution across that isn't uniform enough for the speaker to work. Actually the same goes for the conductive layer on the diaphragm but you have already measured this and it seems to be good. Hope this helps.
@@peteroneill404 Somewhere I have a book I bought years ago on building electrostatic loudspeakers that has a compilation of various articles on commercial versions - including tweeters - it'll take a bit of digging up from the loft but I'll see if I can find it - I know I did loan it out to someone at obe time and I'm assuming I got it back .....
I think the principle of these tweeters is different to the Quads - they're not 'push pull' and don't require à polarising voltage. Beware too on assuming the diaphragm is conductivie - the Quads are but only 'just' otherwise the charge moves around with the actual physical movement creating non linear distortion.
U forget the Quads actual resistivity but it's certainly higher than you can measure with a standard multimeter.
Quad used a solution of 'something' - off the top of my head I forget what but there have been various alternatives proposed such as powdered graphite rubbed onto the diaphragm.
It would certainly make for an interesting video and I know you like a challenge David !
@@mrb.5610 Yes, I think I have a copy of the same book or something similar. Also, yes these tweeters are single ended rather than a dipole used in the Quad. These tweeters have one only perforated plate or stator where the Quads have two stators with the diaphragm located between them. The stators are driven from a centre tapped transformer, with the centre tap connected to one side of polarizing power source with the other side connected to the diaphragm. Finally the resistance of the diaphragm coating used in the Quads is much higher than what has been used in these tweeters.
Fantastic job Dave.So precise and thorough. This is a great video. Really enjoyed this one.Great Great channel.Best wishes Terry uk 🇬🇧 ❤.
Thanks Terry, glad you enjoyed it 👍😀
Lot of work and skills put in to it
Thank you Odessia 2021 🙂
Looks absolutely gorgeous!
Sounds good. Well that was quite the undertaking to get this one up to par.
Job well done I say. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Rod, it's now in our family room 🙂
@@DavidTipton101 as it should be. 👌🏻
Another awesome job. I hope you can get that transformer sorted out soon!
The video was a perfect ending to my Friday night. 😁👍
Hi Don, thank you. I hope I can get it worked out too 👍😉🙂
This is an awesome restoration, Dave! Your cabinet repairs are almost invisible and the refreshed finish looks great too. The back cover replica is spot on and the record player cover... well, I've never seen something like that in my life. Looking for the next episode, cheers.
Thank you Dmitri, it was bit of work but it came out looking good, well worth the effort 👍😀
DAVID .... what can I say that would adequately describe this joyous restoration ? Your inquisitive mind , attention to detail , work ethic and willingness to go that extra mile on areas that will never be seen are in some ways a nod to the past and skillset and expectation of consumers now long gone ...... unlike today where people have slepwalked into low expectations and accept " inbuilt redundancy " all while professing to love the planet aand wringing their hands on the best way to save it by reducing waste ..... oh the irony !!! David I would love to see you work on a high end 1920s or 30s standing set of the type people huddled round to hear the ongoing peace talks then ultimately the declaration " WE ARE NOW AT WAR " and would go as far to say if you can find a suitably distressed one I would be more than happy to pay for it whilst at the same time claiming NO OWNERSHIP of it even after restoration .Please let me know if this would interest you . It is a privilege to watch your skills put to the test , and school children would benefit from this content rather than some of the indoctrination they have to endure at the moment .
Hi Mei Chong, thank you for your kind comment. I agree, we do accept some pretty rubbish stuff knowing it will fail within a short time. I did do a 1931 console radio a while ago and I have a similar console waiting for restoration with both the cabinet and the radio in bits, a failed restoration attempt by the previous owner, that should be fun 🙄
A excellent refurbishment Dave and full Marks in trying to repair the Electocstatic Speakers I had a listen a good Bose Headphones and Radio Gram sounds Magnificent full Marks Dave, Ian.
Thanks Ian, the sound is from a mic in front of the gram, I was surprised it sounded as good as it did but more surprised it sounded good through headphones 👍🙂
Really a good job on that new box under the record player, I bet it is much better than the original protection. Everything else was great. It is a pity that those old speakers are not working anymore, but the tweeters are OK. I hope that someone finds those output transformers. Thanks.
Thanks RÁDIOS ANTIGOS. I haven't given up on the tweeters yet. I have a lead on a transformer too 👍😀
That is a beautiful piece. Thanks again for another great set of videos.
Thanks robbyxp1 🙂
Waw am impressed with the finished radiogram,
Me too Martin, thank you 👍🙂
Speakers a coat of thinned out PVA glue on the cone and the suspension works wonders to make them a little more stiffer and not to have tears. The liquid tape is good though to fix tears in the suspension, and for the centre just take some paper and damp it with the glue, and form around the ball from a roll on deodorant, and leave to dry. Then you have a dome that you can cut and glue in place.
The cones on this were in good condition SeanBZA. I have in the past coated weak cones or even a bit of black spray paint. Good idea for making the dome 😀
great job the work on the back cover was better than the original
Thanks Angelo 👍🙂
Wonderful video as always Dave. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching Brian 😀
You can use space blanket to make a new membrane for the electrostatic element. Use a multimeter to find the conductive layer.
Hi Derek another good tip, thanks. Someone also suggested those silver balloons would work 😀
Beautiful craftsmanship, you've outdone yourself again! The electrostatic tweeter in my tabletop Grundig works, but it's pretty subtle. Just adds a tiny bit of sizzle. I don't know if that is how it's supposed to be, or if my hearing is off (probably), or if it would work better if rebuilt. Really enjoyed watching your project, and I agree about the lovely warm sound. I run mine every day. Cheers
Thanks Mark. The electrostatic speakers don't do much, the piezo speakers I used are about the same but they make a difference. Nice to hear you still enjoy your set 👍😀
Finally 3rd part also arrived. Very nice video. 👌
Thanks A DDD 🙂
oh daid I hope you get her full operational.... pure midcentury modern ... and so many little things that were needing work
Thanks chris b, I'll get it working one way or another 👍🙂
David. I know you are the King of restorations, I just wondered if you ever upgrade some of the old cabinets? Maybe install newer higher powered speakers and a power amplifier upgrade to make an old unit sound like a new one? I think one of those old cabinets with a state of the art system inside would be awesome to hear and have!
Hi Greg, no I haven't tried upgrading, if I had a attractive spare cabinet it would be an option 🙂
That was so so amazing again Dave, playing some Humperdinck well what can i say ? You just made my day and gave me the urge to put some of my Humperdinck records on the Thorens. Thank's for sharing my friend :-)
Hi Sarge, I had forgotten about EH, I didn't know I had the record. My wife was tapping along in the other room 🙂 Thanks Sarge 😀
Beautiful, Dave!
Thank you Vic 😀
That restofinish really did a great job, would love to try that one day - didn't have much trust in that either.
It worked very well Manny 👍😀
Dave you out did yourself on designing and making that back cover and I have made about dozen backs over the years and My stationary scroll saw has been really handy to use .
Hi Richard, thank you. A scroll saw would be handy 👍😀
@@DavidTipton101 they are very handy I have had one since i was a teen .
Outstanding carpentry work !
Thank you W Rex 🙂
A1 Job David just love German Radiogram.
Thanks ACHF, me too 😀
All my cabinet restorations get the "Howard's treatment". I'm not all that well versed in woodworking so the Howard's products save my butt over and over. Besides Restor-A-Finish I use Howard's Feed 'n' Wax too. It's good stuff!
I would be tempted to make the whole thing over, being feared of scraching it in use and paint it all bright orange
I didn't have the Feed-N-Wax, I will check the store next time I go 👍🙂
Just found your channel. What an astounding refurb. You're right - it has got that classic 60s sound. I've subbed so now to explore the back catalogue. I prefer doing battery radios as I'm not totally au fait with mains (240v) so probably safer sticking with what I know. Trouble is, I've got 4 x 70s music centres here waiting. Just started on a Roberts R200 (1961) radio which is dead so I'll be filming my amateur attempts on this for YT.
Hi spankysmagicpiano, welcome and thank you. Best to stick with what you are comfortable with. When you post your video let me know in the comments 👍😀
What a nice piece. I'm sure back in it's day, its original owner would have felt proud to own this.
She's a big girl though, is she a keeper ?
I can imagine the family's joy when this set was delivered Ellesmere. It depends whom you ask Ellesmere, I say yes, my wife says "you're kidding"... I will wait and see how it pans out 👍😉
Nice work David...Looks & sounds great..Well done..Thanks for sharing..Ed..uk..😀
Thanks Ed 😀
A great restoration, many thanks.
Thank you Girish 😀
I have an old Bozak speaker with a bit of a mashed corner that needs rebuilding. I was thinking of doing it kintsugi style and painting the repair gold.
Interesting idea Jonathan 👍🙂
Great work, as always. I'm assuming that you checked the high voltage supply for the electrostatic speakers?
Hi Fred, thank you. Yes I did, in the video you can see the test lead hanging off the speaker terminal, I forgot to turn the camera on 🤦♂️🙂