Influencer Lets Audience Decides if He Lives or Dies | Chicago Med
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024
- A social media influencer lets his users vote on medical advice, forcing Dr. Charles to make a decision.
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Season 05, Episode 08, Too Close To The Sun,
Maggie gets unsettling news about a new friend and breaks protocol to support him. One of the doctors from the Med family is rushed into emergency surgery after a violent assault.
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If I were Dr choi I would break the camera and be like "oops I'm sorry" 😂 just watching this makes me stressed!
Or have the girl tossed out. Filming in a hospital is a huge patient privacy problem.
Tbh I would have spoken to the camera to try convince them
Yuppp
Good way to catch a lawsuit lmao
Well said they're Stupid decision makers
Honestly yeah, Dr. Charles made a good decision here, instead of a vote on a high likelihood of death, he makes a vote on certain death. The fans don't care about him and think it's funny, and he needed to realize that. Anything like this would need a clause that the vote cannot be anything that poses immediate potential death on the person or breaks any laws.
I mean if they liked the show then they wouldn't vote for him to jump because he'd die and whoops, no more show. No more merch. No more fun. They just wanted him to suffer. That's the kind of people the website would attract anyway, someone who wants to force him to do horrible stuff.
And to be honest, (I don't know about chicago specifically though) you can be put in jail for manslaughter if you tell someone to kill themself or help them find ways of doing it. These people were attempting manslaughter, they are by definition criminals. Why would you give them what they want?
Wouldn't it be murder by proxy
@UCQ-mdHD_xrpzoNZTSNQ96_A tbh i dont know where that would come under in the uk
@@cristalmewtwo4160 technically yes but it would probably be insanely difficult to find and prosecute everyone that voted especially if they're not all in the USA.
@@SjofnBM1989 yeah I'm just saying what I thought it would be classified as
Wheeling a patient onto the roof, asking him to jump
Certified psychiatry moment
They literally took that idiom "If someone told you to jump off a cliff would u do it" and modernized it so ppl understand! Love this show
I agree but the original idiom is "If *everyone* around you jumped off a bridge, would you do it?" and in this case (I'm intentionally deviating from the video's content here) is it more likely that everyone is delusional or the bridge is on fire? (A paraphrase of an xkcd comic.)
Pretty sure you don't need to modernize "If someone told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?". Everyone understands what that means, it doesn't matter what year it is.
Seriously though, there are 1 million people who would happily watch someone die and get a kick out of it ?
Humanity is a worthless species
Oh ofcourse. People die on video all over meme sites
Honestly, most of them would probably just do it for the memes, they don't expect him to actually jump(certain death). And if he did, most would blame and judge him for being stupid (I mean...).
The surgery vote, I'm more unsure if a real chat would actually not vote on a surgery lol
I mean, globally? There are tens of millions who would probably pop a chub at it. You underestimate the size of a 7 billion population and the prevalence of psychopaths lmao.
But realistically on a streaming website that's publicly available? Not even nearly lmao. For one they'd get banned from any mainstream site that could attract such an audience for the content being too outrageous. Secondly people wouldn't be so brazen when they know other people can see their behaviour and any harm their chat messages or votes cause can be easily linked to them in an investigation.
fucking Jake Paulers- if it's not extreeme, rhey don't get a kick out of it
I like the fact that they don't just paint him as an stupid influencer desperate for likes. Dude was destitute before this and now he's got a roof over his head. While he's making a dumb decision I can understand why he's so desperate to keep gimmick going.
Who is 'they?'
Dr Choi, the character, sure does. Dr Charles doesn't and by extention neither does the writing staff.
Or by 'they' do you mean that's the feeling you got from watching it?
@@thegatorhator6822 I meant they as in Chicago Med as a whole
@@thegatorhator6822 they mean the writers.
He is a stupid influencer desperate for likes
sadly you feel that way
If Dr. Charles leaves the show, it’ll be the last straw for me. He’s the best
he is a serial killer and a psychopath, just to ruin it 4 u
@@mohammedali8436 I need a season and an episode to believe that
@@larakwiez6735 u want to believe it tho 😂
Agreed
@@mohammedali8436 except that I don’t
Choi reacted so realisticly lol
Not really. He is in a hospital so he can legally tell them not to stream and if she denied that request then she would be kicked out
There are probably people who would do this. So stupid.
Shut up no
Yeah, its horrifying what people do to go viral on RUclips.
i swear to you there was a guy, who once climbed outside of a window, hanging just by his hands, for 4 dollars.
@@moty6369 Oh my!
@@moty6369 what is scary is these people are our future!
I hate it when people would just see a person die just for their own enjoyment without knowing how others and the person's family would feel
or what their origin story is and why they are doing it.
The restraint Dr.choi displays here is commendable
Right? I would have called security and got the gf and the camera escorted off the premises.
The most unrealistic thing is 800k people watching a live stream.
It happens, just not in the US lol
@@curerose6906 on what platforms?
@@heart.9889 Twitch
@@curerose6906 that got me curious, it actually happened five times the past year that someone had at least 800k viewers.
Twitch has millions
Surely they can't film or live feed anyone who doesn't give permission. The way they stick the camera in someones face surely can't be legal. You could be in hiding or have any reason to refuse x
theyre in public, so they can film anything without it being illegal. anyone who goes out in public gives their consent to being filmed exactly as they are
@@novachek4386 except they are not in public, they’re in the hospital..
@@rosecalvin1004 which is still a public hospital. the only way in which it is illegal to film is if the hospital says they don't allow it
@@novachek4386 its a up to the hospital and its policies, you cant film the staff or other patients and if it is a private hospital you cant do anything without consent
@@novachek4386 Omg imagine just filming everyone in there, that's fucked.
This was so frustrating to watch, and the sad thing is that things like this have already happened IRL. It's unbelievable how much social media and internet success can consume people.
I still remember the livestreamer that killed his gf because they told him too
Humanity continues to disappoint me. Even if though this is fiction it seems likely that some influencer would actually do this and it ends in them dying horribly.
How many IRL streamers have done that. . . ? Sometimes maybe because for money, but when they do it because they think they have nothing to lose? Now, sadly, there are. . .
There are already people who do this and died.
It's not the same idea, but look up Stas Reeflay. Just like the guy in the video, Stas does whatever his followers tell him to do in the donations they give out. And at one point it got too far. Just like this....
@@Silverblade416 a japanese kid has jumped off a building when she asked her followers what to do. It was a famous case in Japan a decade ago. The girl was highly neglected and was left alone after going back from school and seek the attention of strangers.
No adult would do this, but for kids attention and popularity is very important for them.
Edit: her online name was roro-chan
@@seraby7151 Forgive my language but. . . Aw man. . . That's f*ckin' awful. . . . That's the first time I heard of it. Most of the news about suicidal/reckless influencers I heard are from the U.S.. . .
Sadness and loneliness that transcends financial and physical needs. . . *THAT* and maybe along with the need for recognition. . . That is very dangerous, yeah?
Update: I just finished reading an article about Roro-chan, and holy sh*t. . . How come we never heard of this before?! (I'm from the Philippines, by the way) This is too sad. . . Someone could've stopped her. . .
The girlfriend annoys me so much
Same. She just as weird as those followers telling him to refuse surgery and to jump off the building.
She only cares about viewers and money
quite a common kind of abusive relationship
😂😂😂 like he didn't agree to it
Me too
oh lord, cant imagine the heights influencers go through, this isnt real but the things they do in real life sometimes scares me on how the internet has got a hold on all of us
Edit: Holy, 1k likes, mother i made you proud
House already did an episode like this!
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 oh i didnt know that, thanks for telling :)
im pretty sure tons of people die from tik tok challenges
Nature chooses
Tbh, I do think this is a bit of a boomer view on streaming. Are there crazy outliers? Yeah. They don't have 800K live viewership.
He needs to leave that girl
He is just as responsible for the channel and the concept. The problem was that he wanted to put himself through hard times to keep his condo and his lifestyle.
I wish they would make an episode about a person who is addicted to watching Chicago Med and Dr. Charles counsels them, cause that would be a HEAVY relate to me😭
Trust me, I'm there with you
The Chicago account liked it! Imagine if it’s actually being pitched!!
Dr. Charles is usually right. There is always method in his madness!
Idk if anyone else kept pausing to read the livestream chat but they really captured how toxic and unhinged a fan base on the internet can be and how people will gladly see you suffer for their own amusement
honestly its like any livestream i see
2:07
Nobody:
MaryN_07323: “Did he say appendicitis!?”
MaryN_07323: “Appendisighdis is bad y'all”
My daughter got acute appendices 3 days after turning 18. Legal age at adulthood where we live. She was apprehensive about the surgery. I wonted like hell to tell her she HAD to have the surgery. The possibility and risks of competition if she didn’t were horrendous. But I wonted to allow my ‘ now adult child’s’ choice. Thankfully a older friend she had online. Convinced her to go ahead with the surgery. Before I had to pull the ‘I’m your mother do as your told!’ Card!!
I really don’t won’t to Tell her what to do. But honestly, after talking with the surgeon, she wold have been tempted death to take her, if she had not agreed to surgery!!
Anxiety can be deadly in the right circumstance. 😓😭
i think its better to tell her what is *right to do* and make her aware of all possibilities of the situation then give her some space ! so great that she have such a supportive family and friends ^^
@@77mounir I did let her know what I thought she should do. And made sure she understood what the doctor told us. It was a hard situation, I found it difficult to express my opinion while allowing her to make her own decision.
She had been to the hospital on her own(because of covid). Then came home because she was to anxious to stay there. I called our family dictator to get the results of her tests. That’s when we learned what was happening. The surgeon at the hospital. Said because she had made it 48h already. Their was a possibility it wouldn’t burst. But if it didn’t now, it would be likely to do so in the future.
Wanted* would*
Bless her, that's a big thing to go through when you suddenly become an adult. Normally making your own decisions comes a lot slower at that age!
For me I think I have always had such a big fear of death that I would take any advised option that gave me the least chance of dying.
She’s allowed to make decisions you don’t like lol. She’s a separate person.
As someone pedantic enough to freeze frame and check, can i just say they put a lot of work in to making a realistic stream chat
Thought I was the only one lol
the names are not realistic there would be at least one person called xX_giantboobies420_Xx
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 no no, it’s dead now, there’s should be at least a spam bot
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 How did you know my twitter handle?
Honestly, I am okay with him using the concept of him using his followers to vote for whatever he do, but if I was a follower I wanted him to take the surgery. It is simply immoral to risk people's lives for their own amusement. When I saw the result for yes for his to jump off the building, I ask, do they really want an innocent person to die? Or torture a person, who is innocent. In this video, it's not the fault of the stupidity of the influencer, but the immorality of the audience. I apologised who feels offended by this.
No you're completely right, the world has become a terrible place that encourages people to hate others and behave in immoral ways. I mean the website would attract an overwhelming majority of people who want him to suffer by the nature of the website, given they can make him do anything, but even so he was only doing what he felt would be his best bet. He was so fixated on losing his better life that he didn't truly realize he was risking almost certain death, (which is why Charles used a guarunteed death as an example vote). Despite the risk, he was worried that if he did the surgery he would end up poor again, and that clouded his judgement. Absolutely the issue is with how the world is completely forgetting what empathy is.
It doesn't help either that there are a lot of psychopaths and sociopaths who lack empathy just in general and don't care about him dying, and that would be among the terrible people who would be attracted to the website.
U must be new to internet
@@TheMartuksxxxx not exactly, but I just hate people like these. I will get over emotional sometimes or all the time
I would think the surgery vote was more immoral and unrealistic because that was serious stuff with a doctor telling the patient what he should do(and therefore telling the chat as well).
Jumping over the building because of their votes is just so out there and few if anybody would take that seriously...
If I was in that chat I would vote yes on jumping off the roof just because there is no way they do it, and vote for the surgery because that is serious and life and death stuff, and a doctor is clearly telling and warning what should be done.
And I agree, the audience is not blame-free. But if that man died because he decided to listen to votes from a bunch of strangers that he has never met. Then it's really on him and his girlfriend.
Yeah, me too. What kind of morons would say no to surgery. That is so twisted!
What kind of girldfriend is that? She doesn't care if he dies or is in pain or wtver, throw the whole thing away how toxic
I had apenditis recently. It ruptured after 2 days of having abdominal pain. The rupture was one of the most extreme pain I've ever had. My recovery was 6-8 weeks. It's been about 3 months now. I'm all good and happy.
Imagine House in this situation, he’d have a feast
I feel like some people are reading this vid a little wrong,, I don't see it as a social media addiction (though that might be a factor), but more of a dependence on the people who watch/send money or a sense of owing the viewers/donators for the life they now live. It sounds like they were homeless before starting the stream so maybe its a fear of losing what they have and going back to living in their car.
It actually does sound like....it is funny though lol
I don’t think there is a wrong way to see it. For me, this clip represents the darker side of humanity that want to see a person they have no emotional attachment to suffer for their entertainment and willing to pay for it
Him, maybe.
Her - she only cares about fame. 😞
me seriously reading the comments on the website💀💀
Glad to see that Doctor Charles manage to break the limelight spell out of Dennis.
I love how they took him outside and let he fans decide
Very accurately portrayed the pathetic lust of influencers for followers.
Why is it lust?
I think it also reflects the sometimes sadistic and petty nature of followers.
@@thegameranch5935 because they get off on it. The definition of lust.
It’s pretty pathetic. But it’s definitely real. 😞
@@dmf1301 isn’t lust something sexual?
@@thegameranch5935 you think you're smart. But you're actually not.
wow, Dr Charles is a genius
who lets someone film in a hospital??
Well, after my sister pregnancy I was allow to bring a camera to film my niece and my sister.
@@BlackCatFilmProductions a child’s birth is totally different
@@missmandy9726 Also my friend is in hospital and give me daily posts on Facebook on her progress.
Lol literally this hole show.
Btw this is a joke comment
This reminds me of the roro-chan incident. She wasn't even a teen and she had jumped for her followers. The case had been covered up by the press but it cam into light about a year ago because of a song dedicated to her. Some believe it may have been the 'minky-momo curse' which is horrible. She had grown up in a rough home as well... rip
Oh yeah... I remember her
The roro-chan incident is heavily debated as it is believed nobody told her/pushed her to jump in the chat, with the majority asking her to 'get down' or 'get help' or 'think about it'.
But what happened afterwards was real and devastating. Something we should focus on instead.
How the internet took her death and made fanart of it, FNF mods, music videos ECTECT...
It was disgusting. And inappropriate.
Dr Choi : Page Dr Charles!😡😡
Dr Charles : How you doing? 👋 🌈😇 I'm Dr Charles 🥰❤🌈
I remember watching the Truman Show and being scared to death about it becoming reality. A bunch of strangers deciding that you should live and die for their amusement...We are living that movie
Not everyone nowadays is a psychotic media influencer who feels they have to cater to their fans over every life decision they make yknow. Normal people still exist
This felt like an episode of Black Mirror, indeed a dark reflection of the impact of modern technology.
What's scary is this happens in real life. There are evil people out there who enjoys this kind of thing. They're murderers but think it's not murder.
Lo!
The fact that this could happen in real life scares me. There are so many crazy people
I'm pretty sure that's illegal somehow? Like a breach of patient privacy?
He shared it on his own.
There has to be hospital rules on shooting videos
@@nipunkothare there would be when it comes to the media.
But patients themselves have the right to film whatever they want.
For their own treatment - they can’t barge into someone else’s cubicle and start filming them.
most unrealistic thing is a gopro camera battery lasting that long honestly
Dr. Charles is ruthlessly brilliant.
I'd pay to get him as a friend
People can be so cruel and sick. I'm glad the guy realized that.
Like a lot of Chicago med vids, this could have been prevented if he had just a little sense, took a hiatus and did the surgery off camera and just covered it up like his camera broke and the new one took too long to come
I'm sure most "fans" are actually just kids with their parent's money and with no sense of repercussions.
Also, someone mentioned that dr. house had a similar episode? Does anyone know if it's on youtube? I'd like to see house's reaction
Yes except that House literally blackmailed the patient emotionally and insulted her and her viewers's IQ.
Bro I know this is all made up and stuff but like wtf.... People actually voted for him to suicide and unfollwed after he refused???
Like that's the most messed up thing I've seen
The followers aren't messed up. This is just fun for them. They're not really expecting him to jump. No sane person would do that. That guy and girl are the messed up ones.
@@iagreewithyou3478 no
It’s both
Sane people don’t joke like that if there’s a chance harm is an actual real consequence
After viewing many of these clips I believe the Hippocratic Oath revolves around the patient not that voters. Simply put those voters aren't exactly family. So another words you could take that camera and photo machine out of the hospital
Dr Charles took wat our mom's always tell us literally.. 😂😂😂
This is so cringe and sad at the same time
This is the best show I have ever watched thank you
Dr Choi is so 🥰
Ok, but I'm glad they found a way to do these stuff differently. Usually influencers in movies/shows are some kind of stupid, full of themselves teenagers desperate for likes and fame. This dude just wanted to live a decent life with his girlfriend and made it clear he doesn't want to disrespect anybody.
Great doctor's,really used his own medicine to show him the reality
What happened after that? Like Aviva was still trying to save the channel instead of worrying how their followers basically wanted him to commit suicide!
In the country I live in, you can't have a camera in a doctor's face like that
And if they tell you leave the room you better leave
It's legit how the world will look in 10 years if we don't stop excessively use social media.
I had thought I'd do that but wasn't sure I could, good thing Dr Charles showed us we can actually challange our patients like that
This is why it’s important to have a real job. You don’t have to rely heavily on other people like your viewers or subs. I’m all for social media as part time or extra but a full time job? No.
Yeah, because a "real job" is more reliable. I'm working for a company which was doing great until a few years ago and now we're all worried for our jobs. Anyone at anytime can lose their job, it pretty much doesnt matter where they work and everyone at least partly relies on other people. If someone loves having a RUclips channel or blog or whatever and makes enough money, I'd say go for it. Do what you love. It's no different from other people who work in the entertainment industry and rely on people not losing interest. If it doesn't work out anymore, you can still look for a new job, you may have to do that at some point in your life anyway.
@@Eldyra @Jelly T get a govt job then you don't have to worry about anything
@@monomis7infinite840 Good luck with finding a company that you know will be successful until it's time for you to retire 🙄 I do have what is considered a good job that is well paid, but you have no control over the economic situation or the decisions the management makes.
@@Eldyra well I said govt job not company I guess
@@monomis7infinite840 not everyone want govt. Job people have different talent and different interest which they want pursue as a career. And look at the population and look at the govt. Job vacancies how many people going to have that?? People also want to enjoy life not just want to make money u need to understand that different people have different outlook on life. I myself never wanted to do govt. Job I find it so boring and I don't even have interest in that area which they provide.. And some people don't even have that much to prepare for those test and last but not the least how some people pay black money to get govt. jobs. And, most of the govt. job don't even pay you well. At the end we relay on others.
This was a particularly clever move by Dr Charles because if he went against the vote and said no, they could persuade him to do the surgery. If he went with the vote and agreed to jump, we'd be back to what Dr Charles was talking about before - a risk to himself, at which point the hospital can forcibly step in. Either way, they get the surgery done
I would like to see a Twitch stream like this happen one day, that would be lit af, lol.😂😂 the writes did a mad and funny job writing this show.😂😂
The chat is filled with sick, perverted, psychopaths. How disgusting
I like how the chat isnt the same recycled garbage over and over and actually lines up with whats happening in the scene.
This just proves how bad some people are... my god the "YES" is killing me. 😱
Humanity continues to surprise me
Not real
@@MrMonkey2150 Still kinda reflects on real life though
The fact humans are still around is more surprising.
@@elliotmay7571 not really. This is an outrageous 20,000% exaggeration.
It continues to disappoint me.
LMAO REAS THE COMMENTS FROM THE LIVESTEAM HAVE ME DEAD “is that the same hospital after the naked skydiving?”
I would totally lose my patience if i was a doctor in this scenario
If i was there i would have straight-up grabbed that camera and throw it out of the room personally
And this is why I don't care what people think. They'll make you do anything for a cheap thrill.
I think in reality the stream would have probably been shut down by the site.
This is why social media is stupid
Lol at 0:13 when you pause & read the chats just as Dr Choi first appears on their show, one chat says “okay everyone who said he was hot is right” then another “dr c’s very dreamy” and one after that saying “yeah what’s dr Choi’s first name???” hahaha some funny chats in this I paused to read them, they are pretty funny and surprisingly accurate for something like this going down, just not enough meme references or swearing hahaha.
4:58 "THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT"
I have only watched the odd clip of this series as I can't get it on my cable, is it always as tense as this in their episodes ? 😮
People like that are so sickening🙄🙄
I wanna be like Dr Charles. What a champ.
It's really sad, he just want to be sincere to his fans and really appreciates them for helping him but some fans are just bad people. Just because you are helping someone it doesn't give you right to abuse them or harass them or make them your puppet. But these kind of fans think that they now own the creator life. Disgusting.
It's sad that there are people in the world that's like this
If I was Dr Choi, I would have said "I do not consent to this."
Why do I feel this is going to become a real case in like a week or so
"If i don't obey, it's over?" Well, if you die just because some strangers voted you not to have a surgery that could save your live, then it's over just the same for your live streaming. The only difference is, if you die, there's no chance for you to have a better life than doing some stupid live streaming with stupid rules. Geez, this is just as scary as Two Face's coin toss maybe worse with real people makes the decision which can be stupid or cruel.
Haven't literally 3 - 4 medical shows had this exact plot for an episode?
I've had my Appendix removed I would rather my the surgery than risking my life
Why are cameras allowed in a hospital?
this is just so stupid, why let strangers make the choice for you when your life is literally in danger..the things people do for clout is unbelievable.
isn't there a law that will criminalise those who urged him to jump?
Probably
props to the people who wrote those comments, must be hundreds of thousands
I empathise with him. His followers helped him out of poverty and he feels like he owes his followers everything. I too felt like I must sacrifice my well being for those who have done me good. His followers are absolute murderers for actually wanting him to commit suicide.
It's the sheep/nazi/group bully effect. A bunch votes and thinks everyone else as a group is at fault. Because ur just one person u don't think ur vote counts. But it does because everyone thinks the same!
Can he please dump the girl after he recovers
Don’t be surprised if someone does something like this anyday soon.
You’re a very wise mediator Sir
Favorite moments when Dr. Charles makes those big flashy demonstrations. Some people NEED the wake up call, jeez
When I heard the doctor ask the boy to jump off the roof, I thought his followers would eventually regain their composure. Unfortunately, when they started persuading him to jump, I gave up hope. I mean, how stupid and brainless you can be to get someone to commit suicide? If they were his real fans, if they really cared about it, they would NEVER do something like this. There is also something definitely wrong with his girlfriend. I mean, how can you be concerned about some stupid internet channel / profile more than your own boyfriend? How can *Anything* be more important! He was so sick, he might even die, and she refused to give him support in a difficult situation for a moment! She was always on the step of that camera, that fucking selfie stick of hers! Everyone here, everyone (except Dr. Choi and the other doctor) acted like they didn't have their own minds! Just like fully programmed robots!
This would have worked both ways for the hospital, it played out that the guy decided to go against the vote for jumping and to get the surgery, but if he'd chosen to jump he would have been taken by the psychs before he could hurt himself and forced to have the surgery, so Hansen was very clever here
his gf is getting on my nerves
Yeah bro
Wait no let me cast a vote to see if she’s getting on ur nerves 🤗
“They are my friends, I just do everything they say, with no questions, or regard to my well-being, and in return, they give me money and attention”
I just read about an American "influencer" that on purpose crashed his plane for views and risks 20 years in prison for it... my mind instantly thought of this clip. Some people just... wtf?!?!?
Isn’t this basically like the red room in “welcome to the game” and “welcome to the game 2”? They literally vote to kill him.
But if he died, he lose everything, not just the condo.
This touches a very important subject, and it is anonymity disinhibition, the people voting for him to die want to watch him suffer and show no restraint in claiming so in the chat because no one knows who they are, they are anonymous, when maybe in real life they would say otherwise with the anonymity they have no restraint.
Of course, it isn't everyone since many stick to their morals no matter who is watching or if someone knows who they are, but for those who voted to make him suffer did it out of the comfort and safety of anonymity that ensured they wouldn't have to face consequences for their actions, pretty cool honestly