Improving the BMC TeamMachine SLR 01 - This is what we do.

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • This is the BMC Team Machine range topping SLR 01 Carbon Road bike. Off the shelf this has a huge price tag, you would expect BMC to make it utterly perfect. However, it takes this humble little bike shop in Cumbria to bring it up the the level of perfection this bike and rider deserve.
    Full Spec
    Frame, BMC Team Machine SLR 01 One
    Wheels, ZIPP 353 NSW
    Tyres, Pirelli P-Zero TLR SL Race
    Groupset, SRAM RED AXS, 44/31 10-28
    Saddle, Selle Italia Novus Boost Lady
    ICS Cockpit 2 Piece Aero with BMC Clip on extensions
    BB, BBinfinate BB86 to SRAM DUB
    Measure, Measure again, grind, measure, etc....
    Tools used
    Sealy Honing Tool
    Internal Micrometer
    Praxis 40.85 gage
    Hambini 40.95 gage
    Engineers Parallels,
    Park BB Press
    We use Wera tools for all our Hex, Torx and Torque tools.

Комментарии • 325

  • @kevinfrost1579
    @kevinfrost1579 Год назад +23

    Paul cannot praise what you do and how you do it highly enough, absolute ⭐. Always balanced, fair, detailed, factual. Shows there is a future in the bike industry for those with skill and application. Somewhat ironic that the opportunity nowadays so often lies, in part, turning manufacturers ‘flagship’ offerings into items fit for purpose. Your patience and focus are exemplary. Good stuff 👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +4

      Thank you Kevin. I think I am on a little mission to revive the bike shop into a meaningful place for cyclists, rather than the showrooms for big brands many have become.

    • @aljaliah6868
      @aljaliah6868 Год назад +2

      @@Mapdec You are on the right path, a motion shared by many of your followers I would say.

    • @kevinfrost1579
      @kevinfrost1579 Год назад

      @@Mapdec mechanics’ mechanic , cyclists’ cyclist 👍 ….. yeah baby !

    • @seanmccuen6970
      @seanmccuen6970 10 месяцев назад

      calm down, all he does is pay attention to the details like anyone should. any bike I build that I'll be riding, all this is standard and compulsory.
      it's common sense, ffs.

  • @MrJiiPee75
    @MrJiiPee75 Год назад +1

    I’m so happy that found this channel! I think you are amazing guy! 😊🙏🏻 The truth is out there in the bike industry and people have to see that you can’t always have the perfect parts or bike only on fake reputation or lots of money

  • @MrSzwarz
    @MrSzwarz Год назад +51

    For over 4K this is uacceptable frameset quality.

    • @BikeLife154
      @BikeLife154 Год назад +5

      That’s exactly what I was thinking from the beginning.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +18

      For a tiny bit of paint and 0.02 mm.. even the best HyperCars and planes get a little finishing from a mechanic / fitter. This video should highlight the value a good shop brings, not that the frame is worthless.

    • @petersouthernboy6327
      @petersouthernboy6327 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Mapdecthe void in the BB area is problematic in terms of BMC Quality Control. The least they could have done is fill the void with epoxy and face the ID. Just a bad look at a minimum.

  • @bigwave_dave8468
    @bigwave_dave8468 Год назад +2

    Brilliant work. It seems very poor of BMC to sell such an exotic bike and not check fundamental things (bb and rear cassette operation) Note to self...oh, nevermind, I wasn't going to buy it anyway :-)

  • @tomascjenkins
    @tomascjenkins Год назад +2

    I think it's criminal that BMC and Zipp can let goods go out of their factories that are not 100%.
    I had a BMC 2 years ago that had a creak. It turned out that the head tube was manufactured misaligned and could not be fixed. The UK importer who actually found the fault to their credit gave me a full 4 figure refund. So no quibbles with them at all.
    Bike shops should not be 're-manufacturing' defective goods to make them work.
    Bike companies should get their processes and QC in order and make products that are not defective.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Bike shops have been doing this for years, centuries even. Every bike shop has reaming and facing tools to fix factory defaults on metal frames. Just the cycling industry is behind on dealing with carbon.

  • @enuazeal
    @enuazeal Год назад

    beautiful bike :) one question, what is your favorite bar tape (using it on most builds)?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      We like tape like the Fabric Knurl Tape. Lots of brands make similar. Slightly rubberised, gel backed.

  • @djiembefolaDan
    @djiembefolaDan Год назад +21

    My favorite new bike tech channel. It's fun to watch someone who knows what they're doing and gives a crap!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thank you

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +6

      Fu## about to find out. Yes. I’m promoting by business by showcasing the services we offer. It’s more fun than advertising and discounts. 🤷‍♂️

  • @youling1997
    @youling1997 Год назад +20

    I felt sad after watching because I know I probably will never encounter a bike shop that's as professional as yours. But I did learn a lot from your videos, so maybe one day I will build my dream bike myself.

  • @veloaddict
    @veloaddict Год назад +8

    The illusion that if you pay more you get better.

  • @echtogammut
    @echtogammut Год назад +17

    I'm really impressed by your commitment to build quality, if I didn't do my own builds, I'd fly across the pond for my next bike. As for the integrated Quark power meters, from my own experience I've only had Shimano chainrings wear enough that I needed to replace them. All of my SRAM rings are still cranking, with regular chain replacements. For road use, I don't see the integration being an issue, but for CX, Gravel or MTB, I've had enough ring strikes going over logs and granite that I want my rings as cheap to replace as possible.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thank you.

    • @RC-fp1tl
      @RC-fp1tl Год назад

      Steel is real for chainrings

  • @feedbackzaloop
    @feedbackzaloop Год назад +13

    The best way to deal with Sram DUB is to avoid Sram DUB.

    • @_Zane__
      @_Zane__ Год назад

      Hah, is sram that bad?

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop Год назад +1

      @@_Zane__ not _that_ bad, but it's just nothing you can do about it.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +4

      But then… Shimano Power meter 🫣

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop Год назад +1

      @@Mapdec there are plenty of other powermeters for Shimano axle... At the worst Sram still has GXP, if you want to remain true to the brand.
      As you shown, 30mm axles are no good fit for 41mm bores

    • @justinharrington6335
      @justinharrington6335 Год назад +1

      Worst thing about sram is when u need to maintain it. Badly designed and crap. Used force and rival 1x.

  • @MrDazP1adv3ntures
    @MrDazP1adv3ntures Год назад +13

    That was a well explained workshop session. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together to keep us all informed. I am looking forward to your next installment already.

  • @blublublublublublub
    @blublublublublublub Год назад +5

    I see these one piece BB inserts as problematic once you want to remove them again. My Mountainbike had an adapter from BB30 to BSA in it. Dirt has built up over the years in the recess area in the middle which caused problems when I pushed the insert out. I ended up scratching the bearing seats of the frame. Not fatal but very ugly:)

  • @mgoo1713
    @mgoo1713 Год назад +2

    First race crashes snaps the frame, has to throw it away and buy a beater race frame....Reality sets in

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Год назад +10

    I saw Wera screwdrivers tested to destruction in a comparison with several other brands. They scored either top in each test, or within 1 or 2 places of top. Excellent quality tools, which I guess is why Mapdec recommends them.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +6

      We don’t mess about with cheap tools. The bikes we work on are too expensive, and time is too precious.

  • @merckxy54
    @merckxy54 Год назад +4

    Great build, . Shame BMC did not quality control the bottom bracket, but then that why Hambini is in this world for!!!!!

  • @Gusst210
    @Gusst210 3 месяца назад +1

    Surtout si vous voulez revendre un vélo pour changer n'achetez pas un BMC...!! d'occasion même très très beau et état Neuf.
    personne n'achète un BMC d'occasion .il n'ont pas bonne presse ......💩💩🤮

  • @flipooh
    @flipooh Год назад +3

    Wow!! Done to perfection but disappointed with BMC in this instance. I did have a BMC SLR01 which I was really pleased in the past. I think at that money bike manufacturers should be charged for wasting time. There are far too many cases of these problematic bottom bracket otherwise you or Hambini wouldn’t be banging on about it.

  • @mrredpilledout550
    @mrredpilledout550 Год назад +6

    "Badly Made Carbon, Bicycle Made Crap" - Hambini

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 Год назад +5

    There’s probably only a dozen or so (and that’s being generous) other shops in the world that would do what you did here with that bike.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Thank you.

  • @lleweybyrne
    @lleweybyrne Год назад +2

    Kudos to you for sorting out BMCs lack of QC. But this just illustrates how appalling the manufacturing processes are even at the top end of the bike industry. The BB should be absolutely perfect when leaving the factory. End of story. It shouldn’t be praiseworthy when it’s sized correctly, just the norm. This is a premium product so the tolerances should be on a level with the aero industry, not your local agricultural metal bending shop.

  • @paulsymons562
    @paulsymons562 Год назад +11

    That right there is why I build my own bikes up from frames and do all my own mechanics and wheel builds.
    Looks like even massively expensive bikes come slapped together from the manufacturer with poor attention to detail. In my experience they also tend to have no-to-minimal grease or other lubrication.
    My costs are just tools, my time is free so I can take the time to do it right.

  • @Curian53
    @Curian53 Год назад +3

    I never understood why would people buy branded bikes with shit quality. Why would a mechanic fix it instead of sending it back? Yes, it is time consuming but you are just giving him a shit product which is somewhat fixed by you. Just go with the brands hambini recommends

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Hambini reems everything he sees. Remember he only sees the tiny sample of things that slipped through QC. Bike shops have been fixing frames since forever. Every bike shop in the world has facing and reaming tools to fix HS, BB frame alignment etc. Just that only a handful of shops apply to carbon.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Nothing new there. Bike shops fix this stuff. Just that too many fix it when it comes back with complaints rather than fix it from new.

  • @graemehill
    @graemehill Год назад +4

    With these non-circular steerer tubes that a lot of modern bikes have how exactly does the stem attach? Is it like D shaped seat posts where you don't have to get the seatpost alignment right because it only fits in a single orientation? I'm wondering whether there's a higher damage risk if you crash. With a normal stem/steerer it's common for the handlebars to go out of alignment in a crash but that's better than breaking the steerer or handlebar.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      There are semi circular inserts. The stem would still rotate around them.

    • @graemehill
      @graemehill Год назад

      @@Mapdec good to know thanks

  • @taavinen
    @taavinen Год назад +5

    Interested to see if you hear from BMC on this one given the spec of the frame

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +5

      I’ll let you all know.

  • @davidramez6219
    @davidramez6219 Год назад +2

    BMC inventory for size 51 is very difficult to find at local shops. When you finally find a shop that has it, they can't ship it.

  • @davenicoll43
    @davenicoll43 5 месяцев назад +2

    I do enjoy Pauls videos, he is meticulous in his inspection of bikes and to be fair if it's top of the range it should have an elevated QC system and I hope BMC watch his videos and learn.

  • @universe-juice
    @universe-juice Год назад +2

    Time is bringing its manufacturing to US. Not sure how to feel about that, but im hoping they will keep their integrity. Will definitely be getting an ADHX in the near future. Maybe make a trip to the site. Have already talked to some people who will be working with them. Fingers are crossed

  • @andypendred8973
    @andypendred8973 Год назад +2

    What a joke of a frame - £4k for a 'fundamentally round' BB housing 😂Good work from Mapdec but what hope and confidence does anyone have in bike manufacturers when even top end frames like this aren't built correctly ?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      It has long been the role of the bike shop, or car dealership for that matter to correct defects. You should be more angry at the bike shops that don’t check.

    • @andypendred8973
      @andypendred8973 Год назад

      @@Mapdec it should not be the bike shop's job to correct defects - a £4k frame (or any frame for that matter) should not have defects - if it does it's not fit for purpose - it should be ready to be assembled without any correcting by a machanic - lets face it (no pun intended) making a carbon bike frame should be pretty simple.

  • @SupercarAlex150
    @SupercarAlex150 Год назад +3

    Amazing video!! I love these videos, keep up the amazing work!

  • @davemellor4697
    @davemellor4697 Год назад +3

    Excellent attention to detail,I have to say the BMC team machine although not an aero design is a great looking bike,and with that bar set up its an all rounder as you can do TT on it as well!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      That’s the idea. Really versitile race bike.

  • @_J.F_
    @_J.F_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    If I ever win the lottery.....

  • @donschloth5785
    @donschloth5785 Год назад +4

    Absolutely love your work and attention to detail. Thank you.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @9090Glenn
    @9090Glenn Год назад +1

    a BIG BMC Team Machine fan - so it is sad to see the lack of quality in that frame - definitely a send back to the factory issue - bad press for them - like you say that is a top end frame and to see that defect in the BB of all places is truly disheartening - come on BMC you have to do better

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      I’m going to address this ‘send it back’ issue in a follow up I think

  • @davidoliver4567
    @davidoliver4567 Год назад +3

    Amazing, a humble little bike shop that should be the envy of all. Your clientele are so lucky. After years of abusing my body ski racing, marathon running, even in the late 80's I bought a LeMond bike and moved to France to play on the bike. My knees finally fell apart. I am rehabbing a total knee replacement as we speak, and planning on hitting the mountain (40 minutes away here in Oregon) and doing a fair bit of road cycling (easier on my remaining non bionic knee) next fall. Your videos and your obvious attention to detail (along with a dose of the infamous 5 year old) have and are encouraging me to build my own bike (Look 765 optimum). A few years ago I transformed a old Raleigh Technium (repainted and all) into a single speed for college daughter. I wish I was in your neighborhood. Thanks heaps for the inspiration. Sorry if I rambled on...that's what us old folks do haha

    • @davidoliver4567
      @davidoliver4567 Год назад

      though I do have another daughter in London

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Sounds like a life well lived. The 765 optimum is amazing. it’s exactly the endurance bike I was hunting for.

  • @9090Glenn
    @9090Glenn Год назад +2

    I have a Specialised Tarmac SLR4 (with Shimano Ultegra which is not a great fit as it used PF press fit Adaptors that seemed to constantly squeak after 3-4 months use - so needed to be replaced often - to fit a Shimano 6750 Compact Ultegra crank to a OSBB Tarmac SL4 frameset we used a WMPF30OUT1 Wheels-Manufacturing PF30 To Outboard ABEC-3 Bearings 24mm - similar to the one-piece BB unit you are showing - the results have been exceptional - hate to say I can feel increased watt output but ... I can - it seems there was some frictional resistance in the older PF Adaptors with the Crank that increased as they wore out - perhaps it is psychological as well - hearing that squeak in your BB seems to sap your energy - this new all-in-one BB system has proved to be the correct way to tackle this problem - converting to SRAM was a better option but too costly

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Nice. The Wheels BB is 2 piece thread together, but it is a good in between option. It has worked for you. 👍

    • @nellyx1x493
      @nellyx1x493 Год назад

      Yes, I have the same frame as you and tried a couple of 30-24 step down adapter options that didn't work sufficiently- the correct tolerances between the two are seemingly impossible to achieve, when ideally the adapter should be a proper press-fit itself but for assembly practicality it has to be slip fit. Once the adapter gets a bit worn it wont prevent the crank from rocking or squeaking like a quacking duck. The solution you found is the best one.. I have similar good results from the praxisworks bb30-24 unit- the only problem comes when it's time to remove it, hammer time.... the Hambini converter is the ultimate. I noticed the better stiffness from the outward bearing too, which is daft from a super stiff frame hobbled by the too narrow bb30 (OSBB) stance...

  • @rcg9573
    @rcg9573 Год назад

    Bottom bracket shell lack of quality is an ongoing problem with BMC, Cervelo, Giant, Trek, Canyon, Open, etc.... It seems as though these firms simply do not want to put in the time or cost to make a proper to spec bottom bracket like Time does. Even Specialized still has BB issues despite the fact they have returned to a threaded and molded in alloy BB. This is precisely why I stay away from these overhyped, overpriced and overmarketed brands. It's bad enough to sell a product with an out of spec BB if it was being sold at an entry level dirt cheap price. But to sell a frameset for multiple thousands of dollars that has obvious poor quality fabrication and a lack of quality control in a critical area such as the BB shell is inexcusable. I'm amazed that consumers keep falling for this foolishness. Hambini also has a great vid on a BMC frame (I believe it was a Roadmachine model) that had a BB shell that was so out of spec and out of round that calling it atrocious would be an understatement.
    I have no issues spending top $ for a quality well made machine, but if I'm doing that I'm only going to do it for a truly high quality fabbed product, not a product that is sold based on pro riders being paid to ride it.
    I also agree with you regarding what other bike shops would do in this situation. I do not know of a single bike shop (even those that advertise themselves as supposedly high end shops) that would actually take the time to fix the BB shell and bring it back up to spec. They would have absolutely sold it out the door as is with those compressed BB bearings and allowed the customer to simply deal with the bearings constantly failing down the road.

  • @antoshaloco
    @antoshaloco 2 месяца назад

    I have few coins to add. BMC ICS is not a best system at all. The perpendicular stiffness of the handlebar is very low, and the foam in the fork steerer cracks after few years of usage.

  • @johnyblamounth9142
    @johnyblamounth9142 Год назад +1

    Tapered cranksets are rubbish!!! comparing free spin from your previous video to this one. Is more than obvious who's won that challenge.

  • @davidgeorge9233
    @davidgeorge9233 Год назад +3

    You are a credit to the industry, above and beyond attention to detail.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thank you ☺️

  • @gelliao
    @gelliao Год назад +2

    I hope you can get a LOOK 795 Blade RS into your HQ and review them too!! Keep them coming!! I love your contents!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      There is one on the channel already and we have the new one lined up.

  • @WowRixter
    @WowRixter Год назад +4

    Very thorough and great attention to detail. The undersized BB shell is quite the surprise. Also does BMC make anything in Switzerland?

    • @cccpkingu
      @cccpkingu Год назад +2

      Prototypes maybe. This said "Made in Taiwan" underneath the BB on a sticker.

    • @WowRixter
      @WowRixter Год назад +1

      @@cccpkingu I noticed that and was a bit surprised for their flagship frame

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +2

      They haven’t made in Switzerland for decades.

    • @mikebrewer1346
      @mikebrewer1346 Год назад

      They did build their Impec frames in a Swiss factory for a period c.2010. No idea when that operation ceased.

    • @neilrobinson7965
      @neilrobinson7965 Год назад

      What about the Masterpiece frames? Are they made in Switzerland?

  • @PaulPannell
    @PaulPannell Год назад +2

    I recently bought a SLR01 Teammachine three. I wanted to swap the cockpit with a shorter stem however BMC, here in the California, said I had to buy another cockpit to change it and there was no refund. Not the best customer service considering how expensive the bike was. Disappointing.

  • @kirkh666joejoe
    @kirkh666joejoe 2 месяца назад

    I dont understand, inthink bmc makes the best frames of all manufacturers. This video should be titled ’how our expectations are even higher than bmc’

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 месяца назад

      Wow. I should show you some things that really are well made.

  • @seanmccuen6970
    @seanmccuen6970 10 месяцев назад

    merely attends to the common pragmatic details of a build from A-Z, then calls it 'gucci'. lolol, more power to ya.

  • @simonalexandercritchley439
    @simonalexandercritchley439 Год назад +2

    Cudos to you putting the customer first. A well explained and detailed video.BMC should pay you for your time and for saving their ass.

  • @alanhielsing6973
    @alanhielsing6973 3 месяца назад

    I didn't only saw the video, I proved my British pronounce with you man...

  • @StanEby1
    @StanEby1 Год назад +2

    For someone with knowledge and experience not even close to yours, it is very interesting indeed to hear verbalized what your discerning eye sees, and to be edified by the wisdom you have gained through the application of your considerable intelligence over years of profitable experience. Bravo.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thanks Stan.

  • @daviddjerassi
    @daviddjerassi Год назад +2

    Beautifully executed what a difference the Lady rider has now got a Team machine as a real Pro rider would have your attention to detail is top class a great video thank you .

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thank You David.

  • @cornishalps9870
    @cornishalps9870 5 месяцев назад

    Bruh I'm 172cm and I need 53t chainrings so I can race midblock

  • @Epitome63
    @Epitome63 9 месяцев назад

    My impression is that the superior materials allow less precise craftsmanship. I am wary of a new bike. It seems like all the manufacturers share these same traits.

  • @mislevis
    @mislevis Год назад +1

    I had same problem with my BMC and Hambini BB few years ago.

  • @harleypurcell7766
    @harleypurcell7766 29 дней назад

    Tyre logos not lined up with the valves… whats going on?? 😂

  • @JibbaJabber
    @JibbaJabber Год назад +1

    BMC - r u watching??
    Everyone else - you've been warned!

  • @sabamacx
    @sabamacx Год назад +2

    Love seeing bike builds as anal about minutae as I am.

  • @nelsonlopez879
    @nelsonlopez879 10 дней назад

    Thanks for this review, i was getting interested in one of those

  • @cormacatcyclesierranevada1451
    @cormacatcyclesierranevada1451 29 дней назад

    you forgot to remove the blue protective tape from the headset cover ;)

  • @stevenkates4876
    @stevenkates4876 Год назад +1

    Please analyze the ENVE Melee. It uses a KOGE threaded BB. I have this bike and if you like Ferrari Lamborghini McLaren Ducati Big Wave Surfing; this bike is for you. Love your channel. Thanks for the content.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      We had an enve in. They wouldn’t let us review it. Waiting for a customer to bring us one.

  • @RB-xv4si
    @RB-xv4si Год назад +1

    I’d be curious to see your take on one of BMC’s masterpiece frames if you ever get your hands on one.

  • @JamesSocialCycling
    @JamesSocialCycling Год назад +2

    You’ll be getting a delivery if my new machine has any defects🫣😁👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Fingers crossed!

  • @samueltrumpy4433
    @samueltrumpy4433 Год назад +2

    I just finished building up the exact same frameset and have to say, the bb area is really bad. I already built quite a few of direct chinese brands and have never had such a poor spinning crankset after installing. Maybe it is because I used the standard shimano bb? I had to push the crankset in pretty hard. Thinking about changing the bb already. Maybe to a threadfit? Would you have one to recon for that frame and shimano 24mm crank? Other then that, the frame is built really nicely, like you mentioned, perfect fork and nice guidance inside the frame for the brake hoses and everything. I built it with the ics fully integrated handlebar and that was actually a nightmare! Compared to a directly chinese fully integraded handlebar, that bmc branded thing which costs 5 times the price, it‘s actually embarrassing how bad of a build it is. I hope it at least rides perfect! Thanks for the video and the insights! Greetings from Switzerland.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      If you had to press the crankset in hard… stop, pull it back out, remove the BB and figure out why the cranks was hard to install. Often the compliance in Shimano BB hide a multitude of sins, but this sounds tight.

    • @samueltrumpy4433
      @samueltrumpy4433 Год назад

      @@Mapdec thank you very much for that quick answer. I actually could install everything and ust testrode it. It works perfectly, no creacking, nothing. So you still think I should get the bb out then? I didn‘t habe to hammer it in or so, just give a little bit of a hard knock with the hands..

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Depends how good you want it to be, or how long it lasts.

  • @ChlorophyllCrusher
    @ChlorophyllCrusher 12 дней назад

    Am I right in thinking brands allocate their best (wrt QC) frames to frame-only sales, and the rest to become completes? I’ve suspected this for a long time…. If common practice, in fact, might we surmise that companies that are not selling frame-only don’t do good enough QC to pull it off?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  12 дней назад +1

      I wish it were that simple. I think it just comes down the training and ethics of the QC inspector that day.

  • @samuel8590
    @samuel8590 Год назад +1

    Built my SLR01 with 12 Speed Dura Ace. Absolutely love it!! Good job on this one.

  • @stuartbennett4476
    @stuartbennett4476 Год назад +6

    Nice job 👏🏻 Prices charged Vs quality delivered is shocking from the bike industry

    • @hughstultz7849
      @hughstultz7849 Год назад

      I think this is the essence of Hambini’s critiques if you look past the expletives. A round hole that’s supposed to be 40.8mm should be exactly that, especially at the prices we are being asked to pay.

  • @co7013
    @co7013 Год назад +1

    I recently saw the aluminium Team Machine. Now that's a bike I would buy.

  • @rodcosta2345
    @rodcosta2345 Год назад +1

    Either that's the smallest 51 ever or you're related to Sasquatch... which is it?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      It’s a 51cm

  • @diehardbikes
    @diehardbikes Год назад

    Just an issue with the frame design. Not the groupset, people

  • @maniastrat
    @maniastrat Год назад +1

    Great video Thanks! Your customer is very lucky to have such a conscientious builder/shop to deal with! That aside Holy Smokes!! A bike that price with those problems? Also the price in itself for that TeamMachine something made in Taiwan... is insane IMHO 😉I always thought they must be Swiss made at that crazy price. In any case "you" do beautiful work 👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thanks Mike.

  • @kpizzle1985
    @kpizzle1985 Год назад +2

    This is a fantastic video!

  • @donwinston
    @donwinston Год назад +1

    I believe being able to specify frame size, stem length, and crank length is very important. I find it unbelievable that a mail order business like Canyon won't let you do this.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Me too. I feel this is a fundamental of bike sales.

  • @davidburgess741
    @davidburgess741 Год назад +1

    My LBS wouldn't do all this! Trek bicycles are "high quality " I consider myself an experienced amateur, but missed the need to face my aluminum frame. If I left it as the Direct marketer delivered, the threaded bb would have also been left dry. In that case, let the buyer beware, or at least have the skills to put it right!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      High quality. Ok

  • @terrywalker7127
    @terrywalker7127 Год назад +1

    I still get confused on bottom brackets. I see this one is not treaded? Had it been threaded, could you have fixed it?
    Your shop it top of the line. Wish we had such customer oriented mechanics as you.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Yes. Fixing threaded BB is an everyday task of a bike shop.

  • @stickmenkissarmy6907
    @stickmenkissarmy6907 9 месяцев назад

    Super work, I still like shimano 🎉🎉🎉😊

  • @TheKryztiandivor
    @TheKryztiandivor Год назад +1

    Good idea to fix the bottom bracket Yourself, because a new frame from the factory would most likely have the same problem. 👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +3

      Yeah. My thoughts too. I would have to rebuild the bike, send it back, argued the toss, start again…. The issue is as common as over painted BSA faces that need facing off. Just fix it and move on.

  • @1afterthep
    @1afterthep Год назад

    no bike ever comes with the saddle you want or need

  • @martincoenen2
    @martincoenen2 9 месяцев назад +1

    I really love your honest opinions and craftsmanship and videos, lots of respect,keep up the good work !👍

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks. Really appreciate the kind words.

  • @bikesavvy3654
    @bikesavvy3654 Год назад +1

    A full race bike but selecting a equivalent 50-34. Better chain line staying well clear of that 10 cog

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      It’s all relative to w/kg and weight of bike / weight or rider

  • @dogukantosun5547
    @dogukantosun5547 Год назад +2

    Hey Mapdec, what is the best spinning BB standard in your opinion?

    • @sabamacx
      @sabamacx Год назад +1

      Even the cheapest $10 Shimano BB's spin beautifully provided the frame is manufactured and prepared correctly.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +2

      BB standard for best spin??? Probably BB65. Let’s not go there. With enough accuracy a Shimano Ultegra BB will spin perfectly well. Lots of track cyclists still use octolink etc too.

  • @stijnhof08
    @stijnhof08 Год назад

    About the bb, if you would use shimano instead of sram would everything be fine?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      It would likely be better, I wouldn’t go as far as fine.

  • @dylanliu6758
    @dylanliu6758 Год назад

    buy a rotor crank problem sovled

  • @Vinch22
    @Vinch22 Год назад +3

    Perfect example of a true MECHANIC! 💯

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Thank you

    • @SPLSE
      @SPLSE Год назад +2

      @@charlesmansplaining Also a sign of a true mechanic. Messy hands. Messy work.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      very true.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      My hands are my livelihood. I learnt early that a few seconds saved not using gloves is often weeks of sore hands, broken skin, rashes and reduced work. Look after your hands. wear barrier cream and use gloves.

  • @TheChindoboi
    @TheChindoboi Месяц назад

    Love the work you've done to identify and remove the void in the BB.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Месяц назад

      Thank you kindly

  • @olekmehera7256
    @olekmehera7256 Год назад +1

    300 quid max they paid for the frame and the poor bloke got shafted, well done for sorting it at least! The paintjob is sick as well!

    • @meneldil7604
      @meneldil7604 Год назад

      £300 frame with a £3000 paint job as are most top frames the samller brand tend to try harder cos thay cant aford the bad press

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      More like a £4000 frame and the final QC is on minimum wage, and drunk.

  • @klosenorway
    @klosenorway Год назад

    Nice video! I have a similar bike, and i want to remove a few spacers. I’ve heard that this is not possible without also cutting the fork? I do not have a one pice handlebar/stem but a similar system to what you fitted on this bike. Thanks

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      It is possible to adjust without cutting, but you need to find a spacer that will sit in the recess at the top cap.

    • @klosenorway
      @klosenorway Год назад

      @@Mapdec Many thanks!

  • @mohamadkhanafer7978
    @mohamadkhanafer7978 2 месяца назад

    Should I be worried regarding the bottom bracket? What would be a good solution, I’d like this bike to last as long as possible

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 месяца назад

      The solution is just to check it and fix it if you need.

    • @mohamadkhanafer7978
      @mohamadkhanafer7978 2 месяца назад

      @@Mapdec how often does a press fit bottom bracket need to be changed? I put in about 2000 miles a year. And how do I maintain it if there’s any maintenance at all

  • @diehardbikes
    @diehardbikes Год назад

    Personally in regards to the power meters: i think that if they made the power meter removable that would be a great upgrade. If they used a torx bolt system that might be they way to go. Or maybe a chinch system. Just some ideas. It is true that if you dont tighten them properly readings will be off, but its just the same as the chainrings tightened to the arm, in that case. So no real difference.

  • @hermes987
    @hermes987 Год назад +2

    Great and through work! Well done!

  • @5amba
    @5amba Год назад +1

    wax that chain

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      I’m not on board with that. Round here it needs redoing too often.

    • @5amba
      @5amba Год назад

      @@Mapdec I thought it's a race (only) bike ?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Oh. What video are we on. The BMC. Ah. 🤷‍♂️. That’s up to the customer. I don’t offer the service like some shops do as generally it causes us more problems. Folk have high expectations of a wax chain but often aren’t prepared for the mantiance it needs

  • @RobPollen
    @RobPollen 6 месяцев назад

    did that not say 46 / 33 on the Chainrings ?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  6 месяцев назад

      Yes. Owner is 70+ age group worlds triathlete, under 50kg. The gear ratios are perfect for them.

  • @pedallinraw
    @pedallinraw Год назад

    Nice build but let’s all be honest you’ll get just as good frame purchased yourself direct from China for peanuts and just as good,direct from the same factory ….
    I had some of the first carbon wheels in the UK a few years ago now before middle men companies sprung up and put on their rip off profit ….still using those wheels too….
    Frames are terrible now with carbon steerer ….disc brakes…..internal cables….etc….
    Rim brakes …external cabling…27.2 post…..folk must have money to burn 🤣🥰👍🏻

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Kinda. Just one word I want to add. You ‘might’ get just a good frame… there is a lot of luck involved.

  • @DanTuber
    @DanTuber Год назад +1

    Job well done. Attention to details. But what would happen if you shaved too much carbon in the BB and made it oversized?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      I would have to pay for a new frame.

    • @neilrobinson7965
      @neilrobinson7965 Год назад

      @@Mapdec do bike workshops generally have liability insurance in case of a mistake or something breaking? Very scary attempting potentially risky repairs otherwise?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      @@neilrobinson7965 oh god yes!

  • @acckids
    @acckids Год назад +1

    Enjoyable and informative

  • @universe-juice
    @universe-juice Год назад +1

    Good man!

  • @SrFederico
    @SrFederico Год назад +1

    I wish I lived near your shop.

  • @Onigure
    @Onigure Год назад +1

    I'm still amazed a 46t chainring exists, even use it for racing. I have much to learn about gearing.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Remember there is a little 10t back there.

    • @galenkehler
      @galenkehler Год назад +1

      As Mapdec says, with the inclusion of the 10t cog they're expecting you to go smaller in the front. Multiply the front by 10% to get the rough equivalent, so a 46t will ride roughly equivalent to a 50-51t on a traditional cassette (11-xx)

    • @Glebaka
      @Glebaka Год назад +3

      @@galenkehler i dont think that any of pros keen on using 10t cog as its not efficient

    • @galenkehler
      @galenkehler Год назад +1

      @@Glebaka 1. You're absolutely right and the 10t sucks.
      2. In the video, it was stated that the user was both low power and low weight, so inefficiency will be a pretty small consideration, especially if they're looking for lower gears they probably won't even use the 10 or 11 tooth cogs, and certainly not in a high power situation.
      3. I totally agree with you, and I don't think I'd ever run a 10t cog, I dont even like 11

    • @nellyx1x493
      @nellyx1x493 Год назад

      10tooth cog has no place on a road bike. Have it on the mtb, and you can feel through the pedals that it shouldn't be trusted - it's ok for mtb, but wouldn't want to be putting the meat down through the pedals on road in that gear. Ok for bimbling though I suppose. Bigger chainrings give a noticeably smoother pedal feel anyway, something you notice going from standard to compact, so why anyone would want to go even smaller is beyond me. What this is, is brands having to reinvent the wheel every so often to stay relevant.

  • @TroggyPK
    @TroggyPK Год назад

    just a quick fyi from a local bike shop mechanic, i agree barely any bike shop would go this far with a bike build simply because we dont have the time to spend an entire day on one bike, through any day we're maybe tuning up some 15-20 bikes as a small shop and all of these bikes are basically apollo/carrera bike shaped objects that people cannot simply afford to replace. i fully understand a boutique shop selling only £4000 to £14,000 frame builds should be doing this wih every bike but your average bike shop selling family bikes simply do not have the time or the staff to be spending a full day completely stripping a new bike down and rebuilding it as a part of the PDI process its simply not economical or profitable on bikes that sell to 98% of the market which are well under the £1000 mark.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      Aye. Those bikes don’t really need it. For years Park Tool etc have made quick easy tools for that use. I assume you have a frame alignment gage, hanger alignment gage, dropout gage and a some frame taps and tools to hand if you need them.

  • @Garfie1d73
    @Garfie1d73 Год назад +1

    Hambini would be proud.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      We are Hambini dealers now ☺️

  • @Jerzj
    @Jerzj Год назад

    Fantastic attitude as a shop!
    I own ‘20 SLR01 and must say I live riding the bike, but ie original replacement bearings quality from BMC is just unacceptable. Paint is also very soft and scratches easily. But still, really like the bike :)

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад

      Thanks Jerzy. I hope the paint on this one is good. It looks amazing. The rich red really doesn’t show on camera

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. Год назад

    great video, thank you, but does make me want to travel half way across the country to use you.....and unfortunately thats not going to happen...so will continue to debate which is my 'best' LBS. At least I'm in London, but that means they are (all) too busy to devote extra time to this level of care and attention.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Год назад +1

      I heard that London gets busy. Haven’t been for years. Lots of McDonalds if if remember. Thanks for the kind words. Maybe we will see you on a trip to the Lake District one day.

  • @nickyburnell
    @nickyburnell Год назад

    1. Well done, bravo. 2. No such thing as a perfect carbon frame, no matter how much you pay. 3. Made in Tiawan. Massive margins at BMC. Don't believe the hype.