The SS34/SX80 will shoot identical speeds as a V3X/P4 at the same poundage on performance, and still have a better "feeling" draw and transition into the valley. Add in the Bowtech tuneability, the adjustable mods, the flip disc, and buy some Lucky stops for it, and you have more adjustability than most other leading manufacturers, and as much as an Elite. It is hard to fault Bowtech with these two offerings.
I had a REALLY hard time choosing between the omnia and the ss34. Ultimately the speed of the omnia won me over. If I had a longer draw length I would have jumped on the bowtech.
I was on the fence between buying this bow and the Athens Archery Vista 35. But this bow has serving separation issues, and NO DEALER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. It was first suspected that it was due to cheap strings, but moreover, the cams eventually cut into your strings. There are a lot of unhappy purchasers, Jeff. This can't be swept under the rug. The Athens Archery Vista 35 is a much wiser investment. It does not require a bow press, has a smooth draw, amazing hold and NO resistance at full draw. It is well balanced, shoots 331 fps (at 31.5" setting), and is available in several customizable riser and limb combos. It also costs $100 less than the SS34. Bowtech has a lot of disappointed customers right now, and hopefully they'll make things right with those patrons. One shouldn't pay $1,200+ for a bow that eats up your strings. This was left out of your video, but is only fair for the public to know.
@@jeffcordero_ Of course! It's important to divulge the bad as well as the good, because prospects are influenced by archery reviewers and instructors like yourself in the purchase decisions they make. Glad you understand.
I would love to, unfortunately not many shops around me carry them, or at least shops that will let me come film. I am working to try and find a place that will!
Hoyt and Matthews have to come some sort tuning solution like Bowtech and Elite to keep those top spots. I need a new bow, I love the Hoyt, but I’m afraid next years bows will all have the new tuning solution. Decision …
Hi Jeff. Great video on the pluses and minuses of Bowtech's latest sensation. I'm 31.5" draw, and had it on the radar as a 3D choice. But the topic of serving separation with the cams and strings concerns me. What are your unbiased thoughts and findings on this issue? One reviewer (who supposedly put over 150 arrows through) blamed it on poor strings.
Understood. Thanks for the quick response! I suspect Bowtech will fix the problem with their next year's model. It'll probably be called something like the "SS34X".😅
I had surgery on my shoulder and the doctor warned me about bow hunting in general so when I went to get a new bow I was going to get it with 60# limbs and back it off so I wouldn’t rip my shoulder apart. The shop owner handed me a Solution SS and told me to draw it to see how it felt. It was a 70# bow and I drew it with zero issues. This will be my third season hunting with it and I’ve had zero issues.
Great review! Have you shot the Mathews TRX34 by any chance? I'm wondering how it compares in smoothness and cycle feel for you. The TRX has the smoothest cycle imo.
Say what u like about smooth draw. This bow is the hardest drawing bow I’ve ever picked up. 60lbs feels more like 66-68lbs. Was a total deal breaker for me.
I still can't choose between the omnia and the ss34. They are both great bows. But the tune ability and the speed of the omnia has me leaning towards it. Ahhh I can't decide!
Kinda comparing apples and oranges. They both can tune though. Bowtech has Deadlock which moves the cam over and Elite has S.E.T which changes the angle of the cam but the adjustment is at the limb pocket not at the cam. 2 different ways to get the same result. Elite has more tuneability though. You can adjust letoff from 70%-90% 1% at a time and 1/4 in draw length adjustments.
Like others have said on this thread. From a tuning stand point, these two companies are forging a new path. You can't go wrong with either. Go with what feels right
I agree. I bought the Solution SS and after shooting the SS34 I think that the Solution has a better draw cycle. Not a huge difference, but it’s noticeable.
I have the SX80, set on 73lb. Like you say super smooth and steady but really loud. Sends an arrow with a loud thump, sounds like a spring loaded air rifle. Disappointed in that regard. This is compared to my 33 Phase 4 and Hoyt RX5.
Jeff, the BowTech 34SS is so smooth because it is so slow. 30” draw length at 70lbs can only spit out a 440 grain arrow at 281 fps!?! Common. That’s the trade off. Back the limb bolts out on a V3X 33, or any bow for that matter and things get smooth. No thanks on the BT 34SS.
My V3X33 was only 5 fps faster then the SS34 on comfort(475 grain), granted I’m a 27.5”, so maybe the speed differences aren’t that bad at smaller draws, but I find bowtech to be worth the minor speed loss.
The tuning options are seriously over-rated…..I mean, how often do you really tune your bow? How many people worried about tunability actually know how to tune their bow? How it holds and shoots matters most…..followed by how it draws. None of the flagship bows are hard to tune.
Just so you know, I almost turned you off because of the "SS" and "F" comment toward the beginning. It didn't seem to fit your work, which I'm relatively familiar with and, though, it seemed unnecessary to me, I haven't decided why you choose the "F" description. Anyway, once past the beginning and resisting the turn off decision, a solid review. Best wishes!
The SS34/SX80 will shoot identical speeds as a V3X/P4 at the same poundage on performance, and still have a better "feeling" draw and transition into the valley. Add in the Bowtech tuneability, the adjustable mods, the flip disc, and buy some Lucky stops for it, and you have more adjustability than most other leading manufacturers, and as much as an Elite. It is hard to fault Bowtech with these two offerings.
Love that bow! My favorite bow of 2023
I had a REALLY hard time choosing between the omnia and the ss34. Ultimately the speed of the omnia won me over. If I had a longer draw length I would have jumped on the bowtech.
great minds think alike.... stay tuned 😉
Great shooting bow
Love your content! thanks for taking the time. it will gain from 8 to 10 fps on performance setting.
Thanks Rick!
I was on the fence between buying this bow and the Athens Archery Vista 35. But this bow has serving separation issues, and NO DEALER WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. It was first suspected that it was due to cheap strings, but moreover, the cams eventually cut into your strings. There are a lot of unhappy purchasers, Jeff. This can't be swept under the rug.
The Athens Archery Vista 35 is a much wiser investment. It does not require a bow press, has a smooth draw, amazing hold and NO resistance at full draw. It is well balanced, shoots 331 fps (at 31.5" setting), and is available in several customizable riser and limb combos. It also costs $100 less than the SS34.
Bowtech has a lot of disappointed customers right now, and hopefully they'll make things right with those patrons. One shouldn't pay $1,200+ for a bow that eats up your strings. This was left out of your video, but is only fair for the public to know.
Thanks for the update. I shot it just for this review. I do not work in the pro shop and am not familiar with this issue.
@@jeffcordero_ Of course! It's important to divulge the bad as well as the good, because prospects are influenced by archery reviewers and instructors like yourself in the purchase decisions they make. Glad you understand.
Sweet bow and great review! Would like to see a prime review in the future if possible.
I would love to, unfortunately not many shops around me carry them, or at least shops that will let me come film. I am working to try and find a place that will!
@@jeffcordero_ no problem thanks anyways for all the content.
Hoyt and Matthews have to come some sort tuning solution like Bowtech and Elite to keep those top spots. I need a new bow, I love the Hoyt, but I’m afraid next years bows will all have the new tuning solution. Decision …
I don't think thats really a bad thing though...
“Slightly different limb pockets” to mean aluminum vs. plastic. Bowtech really needs to stop the plastic limb pockets.
Hi Jeff. Great video on the pluses and minuses of Bowtech's latest sensation. I'm 31.5" draw, and had it on the radar as a 3D choice. But the topic of serving separation with the cams and strings concerns me. What are your unbiased thoughts and findings on this issue? One reviewer (who supposedly put over 150 arrows through) blamed it on poor strings.
I don’t have an opinion. I only shot the bow for a review, I do not work in the pro shop. Sorry
Understood. Thanks for the quick response! I suspect Bowtech will fix the problem with their next year's model. It'll probably be called something like the "SS34X".😅
There's no 13/16 on bowtech, riser to arrow front and rear of shelf set even, that's it, where that falls it falls
I've lost muscle mass do to an injury an had to back off on poundage I shot that bow at 60# an it felt like 55# or so great video thanks
Butter draw cycle.
I had surgery on my shoulder and the doctor warned me about bow hunting in general so when I went to get a new bow I was going to get it with 60# limbs and back it off so I wouldn’t rip my shoulder apart. The shop owner handed me a Solution SS and told me to draw it to see how it felt. It was a 70# bow and I drew it with zero issues. This will be my third season hunting with it and I’ve had zero issues.
Nice work! Would love to see some recurve reviews lol
I know a guy that knows guy that could get me on the right path... wait, thats you...
Great review! Have you shot the Mathews TRX34 by any chance? I'm wondering how it compares in smoothness and cycle feel for you. The TRX has the smoothest cycle imo.
I have a TRX 40, same cam. It gets hard comparing a marketed hunting bow (SS34) to a marketed target bow (TRX34). Both have great draw cycles.
Say what u like about smooth draw. This bow is the hardest drawing bow I’ve ever picked up. 60lbs feels more like 66-68lbs. Was a total deal breaker for me.
You must be talkin about the SR cuz I pulled every bow in the shop and this one felt like 40lbs
I thought the vtm felt better, personally
How does it compare with the Solution? Smoothness and let down.
I still can't choose between the omnia and the ss34. They are both great bows. But the tune ability and the speed of the omnia has me leaning towards it. Ahhh I can't decide!
Tuneability? Lol bowtechs deadlock is just as easy. They're both adjustable with an Allen.
Kinda comparing apples and oranges. They both can tune though. Bowtech has Deadlock which moves the cam over and Elite has S.E.T which changes the angle of the cam but the adjustment is at the limb pocket not at the cam. 2 different ways to get the same result. Elite has more tuneability though. You can adjust letoff from 70%-90% 1% at a time and 1/4 in draw length adjustments.
Like others have said on this thread. From a tuning stand point, these two companies are forging a new path. You can't go wrong with either. Go with what feels right
Shoot the era too
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Have you shot the fortis 33 EC2 cans??
Actually the revolt xl is the smoothest of all
Haven’t shot that one yet.
The solution ss seemed smoother to me
I agree. I bought the Solution SS and after shooting the SS34 I think that the Solution has a better draw cycle. Not a huge difference, but it’s noticeable.
Anyone know the reflex measurement on the ss34?
Yes it is only complaint I have is from the factory lots of cosmetic flaws
It’s too bad that Bowtech doesn’t make that bow at A 24.5-25in draw length
I have the SX80, set on 73lb. Like you say super smooth and steady but really loud. Sends an arrow with a loud thump, sounds like a spring loaded air rifle. Disappointed in that regard. This is compared to my 33 Phase 4 and Hoyt RX5.
I can see that. It's hard in this range for me to compare sound because it is tighter and confined.
Got an SX80, quieter than my V3X and Enkore. Less vibe than my mathews as well. Best bow of 23 so far.
@@o.n.e.wayhunting must be something wrong with mine
Jeff, the BowTech 34SS is so smooth because it is so slow. 30” draw length at 70lbs can only spit out a 440 grain arrow at 281 fps!?! Common. That’s the trade off. Back the limb bolts out on a V3X 33, or any bow for that matter and things get smooth. No thanks on the BT 34SS.
That was on the comfort mod. You can add 8-10 fps on performance.
Exactly! It’s not great engineering it’s smooth because it’s ridiculously slow.
My SX80 speed wise, performs exactly like my V3X33 at the same poundage. And it still draws better on a "feel" basis.
My V3X33 was only 5 fps faster then the SS34 on comfort(475 grain), granted I’m a 27.5”, so maybe the speed differences aren’t that bad at smaller draws, but I find bowtech to be worth the minor speed loss.
@@toddlymburner5783 yeah thats just not true
Athens was smoother.
The tuning options are seriously over-rated…..I mean, how often do you really tune your bow? How many people worried about tunability actually know how to tune their bow? How it holds and shoots matters most…..followed by how it draws. None of the flagship bows are hard to tune.
I agree.
But their limbs still don't last
🤷🏼♂️
Just so you know, I almost turned you off because of the "SS" and "F" comment toward the beginning. It didn't seem to fit your work, which I'm relatively familiar with and, though, it seemed unnecessary to me, I haven't decided why you choose the "F" description. Anyway, once past the beginning and resisting the turn off decision, a solid review. Best wishes!
bc it’s fucking smooth roger