my dad, Syd Bennett was in this band, played banjo. he left to pursue his career in picture restoration just before they had the no.1 single, which is why he's not in the film. tho, i believe he was in a famous tv. appearance and on at least one of the albums. half of these guys i met when i was a sprog as they stayed in touch long after he left the band.
My friend Douglas Gray was the original double Bb tuba player, and also left the band just before it hit the big-time, so he must have known your dad. He told me he was the one who thought up the name of the band one night when all nine of them were in the pub drinking.
For what it's worth.... this band was my great inspiration. Whispering Paul McDowell my hero, when everything happening here was totally against pop music at that time. Sheer delight and brilliance. I've just recorded Pasadena with a brass ensemble as a personal tribute...... something I've wanted to do since 1961 !!
It's a very clever name. The fact that there are 9 in the band is a drinking term to have "one over the eight" meaning that you were drunk and incapable. Thus, Temperance meant "No drinking". Beautiful and elegant. Much like the band.
I just heard Brian May talking about them on Elis and John BBC radio show. So it made me look them up. He talked about a 1961 recording using just one microphone by George Martin. I was born that year. I’ve never heard of the band. But There’s 9 of them here?! I love Crazy Little Thing Called Love and it’s delightful to know there’s this influence. Or other songs that have an essence of another era like Here’s Looking At You by Blondie … or their cover of The Tide Is High … originally a song by the Jamaican group Paragons with John Holt which I only recently learned and just had to Google for details. It’s great to hear a band try a completely different sound.
By Palmer-Williams...The Temperance Sevens' version was included on "Ring A Ding Rhythm" movie, which was subsequently issued as the LP "It's Trad, Dad" on Capitol Records.
Thanks for your answer. Acknowledging Bill Lenny's work, I wrote my comment because I read that Richard Lester, though more uncredited than not, always worked on his movies editing: he said it was the part of filmmaking he loved most . His worst movies are those where he couldn't control the editing at all
Richard Lester was the director, he along with the art director and film editor are responsible for the marvelous mis-en-scene of "It's Trad, Dad." I'll take credit for a nice presentation package made from the two songs the Temperance Seven played, but Bill Lenny and Gilbert Taylor were responsible for the editing style.
So great to see & hear this. Thanks for making & uploading. I grew up being told about this band as mum was married to John R T 's brother in the 50s, but never heard them until recently.
Ahead of their time,and vastly under-rated! An influencing factor of my formative years,they're deeply embedded in my phsyche- part of my DNA; years roll on,but I never tire of their recordings!(All temperance papers,please copy!) Roland Birchby.
Vitajazz: I hope you won't mind a correction. That's "Count" Clifford Bevan on piano here, not "Canon" Colin Bowles (who wore a dog-collar on stage). There was a book (I wish I still had it!) written by veteran Radio 2 DJ Brian Matthew at the height of the trad boom in 1961, which had a whole chapter on the Temps. The captions to the illustrations were quite positive on the identification.
Thank you, I was using Temperance Seven LP covers and trying to match pictures to the artist credits, I have no authoritative reference on what was my favourite music group when I was growing up in Britain in the fifties/early Sixties.
From Paul Mcdowell's obituary - "He recalled that when his father died of emphysema at around this time, “my mother told me not to worry about going to Hell. It was right here on Earth. I was wearing my existentialist rope-soled sandals at the time and wondered what Jean Paul Sartre would have made of her statement.” 🙂
Well said Henry. Give me a call when you can please. (Baritone sax player - I played your Bass sax once, in that small pub in Bristol area). Hope you are well. Regards WL
@@taliesin8192 Hello Warren, I'm ok for 80 I suppose. we are still at the Chelsea every Tuesday coming up for 18 years - longest residency in my life... Incidentally, upon receipt of your comment, I mistakenly went to the old RUclips posting of this number and answered a 12 year old query.
@@Henry24542 Ruddy marvelous and THANK YOU dear Henry. I shall visit next Tuesday the 16th. August and look forward to it very much. My Greatest Regards as ever.
Brian and Neil not related as far as I know. I had a brief correspondence with Brian Innes a few years back over one of their "Sunday Night at the London Palladium" performances. For more info about him and the Temps read his autobiography "A long way from Pasadena".
@@Krzyszczynski From Brian Innes's comments in his autobiography (see above) he actually managed to get his cigars tax-deductable as they were necessary on-stage props.
@@Krzyszczynski I was told by a mutual friend that George Martin momentarily forgot Martin Fry's name and made up Franklin Paverty on the spur of the moment.
@@briancollins2913 Was thinking perhaps Franklin Paverty was a joke on Franklin "Poverty" as Franklin Roosevelt was president here in the U.S. during the 1930's great depression? I'm rather new to appreciating the Temperance Seven so forgive me if that's a joke everyone got long ago! - Ken K. musescore.com/user/23900941/scores/4435296musescore.com/user/23900941/scores/4435296 rhe Temperance Seven
my dad, Syd Bennett was in this band, played banjo. he left to pursue his career in picture restoration just before they had the no.1 single, which is why he's not in the film. tho, i believe he was in a famous tv. appearance and on at least one of the albums. half of these guys i met when i was a sprog as they stayed in touch long after he left the band.
My friend Douglas Gray was the original double Bb tuba player, and also left the band just before it hit the big-time, so he must have known your dad. He told me he was the one who thought up the name of the band one night when all nine of them were in the pub drinking.
I knew Alan Swainstone Cooper (bushy beard). Now departed. Went to his funeral when some of the original band played. Fantastic.
For what it's worth.... this band was my great inspiration. Whispering Paul McDowell my hero, when everything happening here was totally against pop music at that time. Sheer delight and brilliance. I've just recorded Pasadena with a brass ensemble as a personal tribute...... something I've wanted to do since 1961 !!
I remember this song and Somewhere in Sahara from childhood. I thought they were fab!
Ah, this is REAL MUSIC!!! Many thanks for sharing!
My Late Dad liked 👍this music 🎶and I like it as well
Excellent bass saxophone solo.
Love the band, love the music.......such a sense of fun.
Love how they’re called the Temperance Seven, and there are nine performers. I guess two drink?
It's a very clever name. The fact that there are 9 in the band is a drinking term to have "one over the eight" meaning that you were drunk and incapable. Thus, Temperance meant "No drinking". Beautiful and elegant. Much like the band.
@@DaveyL1954 Thanks for the explanation!
I have only heard their records but never seen a film of them. This is fantastic. Thanks.
Huge influence on Queen. May and Mercury loved these guys
I just heard Brian May talking about them on Elis and John BBC radio show. So it made me look them up. He talked about a 1961 recording using just one microphone by George Martin. I was born that year. I’ve never heard of the band. But There’s 9 of them here?! I love Crazy Little Thing Called Love and it’s delightful to know there’s this influence. Or other songs that have an essence of another era like Here’s Looking At You by Blondie … or their cover of The Tide Is High … originally a song by the Jamaican group Paragons with John Holt which I only recently learned and just had to Google for details. It’s great to hear a band try a completely different sound.
Thats my Grandad on the tuba
Martin Fry is your grandad?
apegrum wow you lucky thing to have a talented Grandad who are my mind is in a great jazz band.
You must be a distant relative of mine! Martin is my distant cousin :)
That's my father in law on the piano!
My Grandad is on the Banjo!
EXCELLENT 📀FABOULOUS 💿AWESOME 📀
possibly the best tune ever
possibly!! - how very dare you!
Great performance - what a shame there doesn't seem to be more video of them from this era!
Wonderful. Thank you.
Excellent music
Great filming shots!!! to a classic
sounds like the sound of the Roaring 20's all over again.😊
theses guys are brill just love there music
By Palmer-Williams...The Temperance Sevens' version was included on "Ring A Ding Rhythm" movie, which was subsequently issued as the LP "It's Trad, Dad" on Capitol Records.
At 1:38", the piano player is incorrectly identified. That is Cliff Bevan.
Thanks for your answer.
Acknowledging Bill Lenny's work,
I wrote my comment because I read that Richard Lester, though more uncredited than not, always worked on his movies editing: he said it was the part of filmmaking he loved most .
His worst movies are those where he couldn't control the editing at all
Richard Lester was the director, he along with the art director and film editor are responsible for the marvelous mis-en-scene of "It's Trad, Dad." I'll take credit for a nice presentation package made from the two songs the Temperance Seven played, but Bill Lenny and Gilbert Taylor were responsible for the editing style.
So great to see & hear this. Thanks for making & uploading. I grew up being told about this band as mum was married to John R T 's brother in the 50s, but never heard them until recently.
Ahead of their time,and vastly under-rated! An influencing factor of my formative years,they're deeply embedded in my phsyche- part of my DNA; years roll on,but I never tire of their recordings!(All temperance papers,please copy!)
Roland Birchby.
Trippy when your high… ☮🔥
way after their time. genius
Awesome...
Vitajazz: I hope you won't mind a correction. That's "Count" Clifford Bevan on piano here, not "Canon" Colin Bowles (who wore a dog-collar on stage). There was a book (I wish I still had it!) written by veteran Radio 2 DJ Brian Matthew at the height of the trad boom in 1961, which had a whole chapter on the Temps. The captions to the illustrations were quite positive on the identification.
Thank you, I was using Temperance Seven LP covers and trying to match pictures to the artist credits, I have no authoritative reference on what was my favourite music group when I was growing up in Britain in the fifties/early Sixties.
You are correct. Cliff Bevan is a friend of mine and that is no doubt him at the piano.
I knew Al Coopewr [reeds] [RIP]and a later drummer Dave Mills. Good players both.
From Paul Mcdowell's obituary - "He recalled that when his father died of emphysema at around this time, “my mother told me not to worry about going to Hell. It was right here on Earth. I was wearing my existentialist rope-soled sandals at the time and wondered what Jean Paul Sartre would have made of her statement.” 🙂
Love it🎉
Foot Tapping 🎉
That was incredible
I was 5years xxxxlumxxxx❤❤❤❤
Great video!
Two chaps not mentioned so far are Ray Whittam on bass sax and John Gieves Watson on banjo.
Well said Henry. Give me a call when you can please. (Baritone sax player - I played your Bass sax once, in that small pub in Bristol area). Hope you are well. Regards WL
@@taliesin8192 Hello Warren, I'm ok for 80 I suppose. we are still at the Chelsea every Tuesday coming up for 18 years - longest residency in my life... Incidentally, upon receipt of your comment, I mistakenly went to the old RUclips posting of this number and answered a 12 year old query.
@@Henry24542 Ruddy marvelous and THANK YOU dear Henry. I shall visit next Tuesday the 16th. August and look forward to it very much. My Greatest Regards as ever.
Fabulous!
Awesome!
Was that Helen Shapiro of Walking BACK to happiness fame? Craig Douglas too? It was. Ring a Ding Ding Rhythm 1962 film. Dick Lester.
hip retro before it was hip to be retro. 1962? wow!
I still play the 7" parlaphone single of this very often. brilliant tune
Yes
23:59 Our Ukulele Trio have added You're Driving me Crazy & Pasadena to our Repertoire. ~ Bernd Williams
Knew Cephas Howard, great man. Anyone know if he is still with us?
TheJonnyfrank
Apparently alive and living in France 🇫🇷
Thanks for the update. He must be in his 80's. Saw him play with Temperance Seven on Shanklin pier in the 1970's!! Time flies.
Editing masterpiece
When it comes to music between the wars,there are two giants,who have very sadly both passed away..JRT Davies and Brian Rust
John R T Davies = John Ristic Twiston Davies. Ross was his mothers maiden name.
thats my dad on piano
!Cool
Lucky you! He's an ace musician and by all accounts a great fun guy as well.
Al principio aparece la hermosa Helen Shapiro, lindo
Yes - Helen was just wonderful, wasn't she? Still singing, but it tends to be inspirational now.
Sad to say singer Paul McDowell died on 2nd May,2016
Whispering Paul McDowell please
(-;
a great loss
You forgot to name Cephas Howard on trumpet!
Nothing but inuendo..
Abraham Lincoln tickling the ivories.
And Brian Innes died July 15th 2014 in the south of France.
parabot19 my son's great grandad.
@@nainaramavrat8962 Was he related to Neil Innes of the Bonzo's?
How many cigar-sellers filed for bankruptcy afterwards? :)
Brian and Neil not related as far as I know. I had a brief correspondence with Brian Innes a few years back over one of their "Sunday Night at the London Palladium" performances. For more info about him and the Temps read his autobiography "A long way from Pasadena".
@@Krzyszczynski From Brian Innes's comments in his autobiography (see above) he actually managed to get his cigars tax-deductable as they were necessary on-stage props.
Arthur Hayes brought me here
does anybody know the currant whereabouts of Martin Fry (Franklin D. Paverty)?
Do you mean Richard Lester's editing work ?
Woody Allen on drums?
Is that Franklin D. Paverty on sousaphone ?
Sure is.
@@Krzyszczynski I was told by a mutual friend that George Martin momentarily forgot Martin Fry's name and made up Franklin Paverty on the spur of the moment.
@@briancollins2913 Was thinking perhaps Franklin Paverty was a joke on Franklin "Poverty" as Franklin Roosevelt was president here in the U.S. during the 1930's great depression?
I'm rather new to appreciating the Temperance Seven so forgive me if that's a joke everyone got long ago! - Ken K.
musescore.com/user/23900941/scores/4435296musescore.com/user/23900941/scores/4435296 rhe Temperance Seven
I liked _Did you shake your Booty in Djibouti?_ and _Ain't Nobody got Nobody like my Body Ain't no Body but me_
Wonderful stuff what year was this filmed please ?
The film was called 'It's Trad Dad' 1962
Thanks
How come there's nine of them
Limiting oneself to only seven pints is "temperance".
But they always had one over the eight.
Because, they claimed, they were always "one over the eight".
By Palmer-Williams..