Arcs (with Leaders & Lore) - 4p Teaching & Play-through by Heavy Cardboard

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @roynoyes8696
    @roynoyes8696 5 месяцев назад +35

    This may be the best teach I've seen of any game I've looked up. It was so smooth and methodical and thorough. Great job Edward.

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  5 месяцев назад +4

      That was really kind of you to say. Thank you and glad you liked it!👍🏼

    • @chiehlilee9224
      @chiehlilee9224 5 месяцев назад

      I’m guessing it made sense 😊

  • @markpetek3125
    @markpetek3125 5 месяцев назад +16

    The game starts at 1:24:30

  • @grandad1982
    @grandad1982 6 месяцев назад +42

    The wooden bits are so much nicer than the plastic! Thanks for the stream.

    • @WideMouth
      @WideMouth 6 месяцев назад +4

      I agree. I have both, and found that the wooden pieces are easier to move and are better for indicating damage. I may find a solution to make the plastic ships work better, but for now I’m sticking with the wooden ones

    • @CopperLontra
      @CopperLontra 6 месяцев назад +2

      I thought the same thing. I'm gonna give everyone the chance to use the plastic because we have them but the wood has a better shape imo. Leder should stick with wood, they have nice pieces.

    • @SFuruli
      @SFuruli 5 месяцев назад

      And then you have me who love both the wooden and plastics. ❤️😍

  • @JoostN86
    @JoostN86 6 месяцев назад +25

    This guy knows how to explain rules. Well done!

    • @elqord.1118
      @elqord.1118 6 месяцев назад +5

      My go to for learning games. Love his style

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 месяцев назад +7

      I appreciate that. Thank you!

  • @albertrenfred7673
    @albertrenfred7673 5 месяцев назад +6

    I have only discovered this channel two months ago and have watched some of you guy’s older videos, and I gotta say that Edward is probably the best guy on RUclips to be able to coherently explain board game rules without it sounding overwhelming to newcomers. I have been able to enjoy watching you guys play board games I have never heard of and probably never even going to try getting into mostly due to Edward’s rule explanations. So thank you Edward for your work, and I look forward to seeing you explain more board game rules and watching you guys play more board games.

  • @soIarjetman
    @soIarjetman 6 месяцев назад +10

    Big fan of your Oath streams, and this was a great game of Arcs. I think you are all going to love the campaign.

  • @benf5287
    @benf5287 Месяц назад

    This is an amazing game and the time you took to walk through the teach and clearly articulate all the nuances was fantastic. You had me up and playing quickly.. thank you!

  • @BoromirTheGrey
    @BoromirTheGrey 5 месяцев назад +9

    I've watched a few of these vids and have to say Edward does an excellent job of teaching the game. Reminds me of myself amongst my gamer group. I have to learn the game, teach it, and then play, as well as answer questions during the game. I understand the extra work. Keep it up. Cheers

  • @harisiadis
    @harisiadis 5 месяцев назад +1

    Edward knows how to present the rules in a way that is easy to understand and absorb. He really prepares us to play the game right away. I appreciate his approach and compared to other videos that present the rules of Arcs, his way was the most helpful. Thank you very much!.

  • @brianturow5986
    @brianturow5986 5 месяцев назад +2

    Had a chance to play this game twice so far. On the second playthrough, once I got the hang of managing the cards, the game really clicked for me and I started to thoroughly enjoy it.

    • @SFuruli
      @SFuruli 5 месяцев назад

      It clicked for me too once I learned how to set myself up for victory. 😊

  • @elqord.1118
    @elqord.1118 6 месяцев назад +4

    1:03:00 is when the teach for Leaders and Lore begins

  • @OnionMortgage
    @OnionMortgage 5 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome! love when this channel plays the games that interest me, y'all are so articulate with your actions, it gives me ideas of how to play myself. Really excited for this one.

  • @reigningmeeples
    @reigningmeeples 6 месяцев назад +6

    Fantastic playthrough, Edward! It confirmed everything that I thought Arcs was...so I bought a copy of the game (I missed the KS).

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 4 месяца назад

      When is it releasing/sending out. I didnt back, i should have... I want it now so bad but need to save money. I need to know if I can wait a min or hop on it now.

  • @spectrumunit
    @spectrumunit 6 месяцев назад +16

    I think Edward made a mistake I have also been making prior when explaining the catapult move action. You have to stop movement either wenn you a) hit a sector, that somebody else is controlling or b) move to a planet. It does not matter, wether it is in control of anybody or not, you just have to stop if you move to a sector with a planet on it. (See Arcs rulebook p. 13).
    Although to be fair: the rules have been revised and updated on April 11th and the sentence has been rephrased in order to clarify, which was probably AFTER Edward had read the rules by himself.
    But most importantly: thanks for the playthrough and the explanations! You always have the best videos on the most complex boardgames! You guys rock!

    • @spectrumunit
      @spectrumunit 6 месяцев назад +10

      LOL - always watch until the end kids! :D Kyle did the same clarification I just did 😄
      Anyways, I will leave the comment up, so everyone can see what happens if you judge too soon and take me as a bad example 🤣

    • @RobWinton
      @RobWinton 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@spectrumunitI really appreciate your second comment! I can relax knowing they correct themselves eventually 😁

  • @AlProvorse-v2t
    @AlProvorse-v2t 5 месяцев назад +1

    @3:54:20 Provoking outrage should happen at the point in the combat sequence that the city is destroyed. Followed by ransacking and then raiding. So you can obtain cards or resources of the type outraged in that battle action.

  • @PatrickMurphy-sg5fn
    @PatrickMurphy-sg5fn 25 дней назад

    Playing my first game tomorrow. Thanks for the teach.
    Watching the playthrough, I suspect was Kyle absolutely correct to play for second here. Seems like it will be a common occurrence in Arcs (which is ok). Wonder if they could have noticed James cities were scoring him so many points and acted earlier.

  • @stop_dave
    @stop_dave 5 месяцев назад +5

    "there are ... 🤘2 options"
    😂 great vid btw

  • @Big_Dai
    @Big_Dai 6 месяцев назад +2

    @2:49:42 What was the joke? EDIT: OH!
    I like some of the systems, but I think I was right not to back this.. as it changed quite a bit from what I expected it to be, and it doesn't talk to me like Oath does.

  • @CATPLANET24
    @CATPLANET24 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this play-through!

  • @GhERM2SOIED72
    @GhERM2SOIED72 3 месяца назад

    So compelling! I'd put on the FTL game soundtrack whenever I set this up~

  • @stephenowen9382
    @stephenowen9382 6 месяцев назад +9

    Looking forward to your 3 Act campaign game with Regents, Outlaws, Imperial Fleets, Edicts, Summits, 24 Plot Lines and the dreaded Blight! The campaign system is what Arcs was ultimately designed for.

  • @chrissgamingtable3446
    @chrissgamingtable3446 27 дней назад

    Watching your video question on battle . I see your having the defenders deal their own damage.
    But the rule books has it as attacker resolves all dice.
    Is this a house rule. Or where do I find it in the rules. To solve a debate. We had in our game group

  • @allencordell
    @allencordell 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good call with the red X’s

  • @Tnklaar
    @Tnklaar 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is the round table conversation somewhere on the patreon page, still?

  • @constChg
    @constChg 4 месяца назад

    2:37:43 u can’t tax rival city unless u control it?

  • @fnord3125
    @fnord3125 5 месяцев назад +1

    i know it’s not an official rule, but i wonder if it would work to play with just a leader or just a lore card…

  • @danielsgustum2345
    @danielsgustum2345 5 месяцев назад

    Oh that intro song.. I remember a roland guy that made it. Just can't find it anymore :(

  • @JustinLillich
    @JustinLillich 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've come to the realization this is a much more colorful version of Burning Man In Space

  • @tylerdryden
    @tylerdryden 5 месяцев назад

    Page 22 says "Rarely, a player will have no starports or ships
    on the map. If this happens, they place 3 fresh
    ships in any gate at the end of their turn." It uses the word OR. So does this mean if you have ships, but not starports you get to place 3 fresh ships every turn??

  • @jjschm20
    @jjschm20 5 месяцев назад +2

    I can really see the DNA of Pax Pamir 2e in this game.

  • @destroyerheekoo
    @destroyerheekoo 5 месяцев назад +2

    2:49:42 freudian slip? 😏 LOL

  • @constChg
    @constChg 5 месяцев назад

    Perfectly explained, watched few how to play this one covers the widest range of scenario I could imagine. Great job!
    Only hope the playthrough was without the leaders and lore!

  • @lumitic774
    @lumitic774 6 месяцев назад

    I keep noticing 20 min explanations of the game! hehe what a beast of a game

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 месяцев назад

      What do you mean?

    • @lumitic774
      @lumitic774 6 месяцев назад

      The game takes awhile to explain, 20 min seems to be the usual time it takes to cover the core rules. The game is really complex. Dont get me wrong, your explanation was perfect! Learning to teach the game myself to my group

    • @ilqrd.6608
      @ilqrd.6608 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@lumitic77420 minutes is super short compared to what‘s usually played here on this channel

    • @lumitic774
      @lumitic774 6 месяцев назад

      @@ilqrd.6608 I was looking for Heagemony games, found it in your channel. indeed... 20 minutes seems super short.

  • @JosephAnderson-i5g
    @JosephAnderson-i5g 6 месяцев назад +2

    Has anyone sleeved this? Does it still fit in the box?

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 месяцев назад +1

      Haven’t sleeved but the rulebook states that yes sleeved cards fit and spells out how to organize if sleeved.

    • @scottmueller7700
      @scottmueller7700 5 месяцев назад

      It all fits in the campaign box. There are four wells that are used for cards and individual tokens for the campaign episodes. Bag the campaign episode tokens, label them, and place them in one well. Put everything in the other three. I needed some space in the fourth well for cards that didn't manage to fit in the others, but that's because my sleeves were a bit thicker than average.

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  5 месяцев назад

      Go watch the unboxing (and reboxing) I did for the Arcs campaign game.

  • @MentalMendel
    @MentalMendel 6 месяцев назад

    Hey HC, where'd you get those red X tokens from?

    • @stephenlake7398
      @stephenlake7398 6 месяцев назад +2

      Votes for Women.

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 месяцев назад +2

      I actually mentioned it multiple times during the stream. 👍🏼

    • @MentalMendel
      @MentalMendel 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Heavycardboard Ah, I did skip the teach part of the video as I already knew how to play the game. I did at one point hear a reference to Votes For Women, but I couldn't tell what was being referenced.

    • @MentalMendel
      @MentalMendel 6 месяцев назад

      @@stephenlake7398 thanks!

  • @jjschm20
    @jjschm20 5 месяцев назад +1

    Even the base game (w Leaders) might be a game of the year candidate, let alone the campaign game.

  • @jankogo
    @jankogo 6 месяцев назад

    Cool! I haven´t heard of this game at all. Love Root though so interested for sure.

  • @the_luggage
    @the_luggage 3 месяца назад

    I imagine Ken didn't enjoy himself with this one, just going through the motions without a chance of winning for a few hours. For those of you who know the game's tactics well, what could he have done differently?

    • @Onebasilisk3770
      @Onebasilisk3770 17 дней назад +1

      Can’t say whether he enjoyed it or not, but the way the game shook out with James winning both Tyrant and Keeper in the second chapter, it much solidified his win. Being immune to Relic theft with Keeper active, James only needed a 5 or 7 to activate Keeper and lock points in the third chapter.
      I think the primary reason for James’ domination was the due to the other players under appreciating the Anarchist’s ability to tax foreign cities without control. James constantly scooped captives with taxes to win Tyrant. The other players should have been more aggressive in killing his ships beside their cities.

  • @ekted
    @ekted 6 месяцев назад +3

    It's a shame they went with red and reddish-orange as 2 of the card suit colors. Maybe they are easier to distinguish in person.

    • @Melric74
      @Melric74 6 месяцев назад +2

      They aren't. :)

    • @steinfi3
      @steinfi3 5 месяцев назад

      Sadly no. My one gripe. Not sure how that made it through proofing.
      However this is a fantastic game and I am loving it.

  • @jonaskissling8343
    @jonaskissling8343 5 месяцев назад

    Immortal words of Ross 😂

  • @HallowedError
    @HallowedError 5 месяцев назад +1

    Voice volumes are kinda up and down between the players and that room has a lot of echo which makes this frustrating to listen to. Everything apart from that seemed pretty well done but I cannot watch the whole thing

  • @brunobaretta5522
    @brunobaretta5522 6 месяцев назад

    the guys played way too conservatively there. They waited until they completely annihilated James' ships before they started raiding. Sometimes you lose a couple of ships raiding big whoop. You need to leave yourself time to roll more dice if the initial raids don't work. It's one thing not wanting to raid against three ships but being scared of one little ship guys?

    • @brunobaretta5522
      @brunobaretta5522 6 месяцев назад

      Also - I think people didn't realize, but you can still raid someone if they have no buildings on the board by attacking their ships

    • @Heavycardboard
      @Heavycardboard  6 месяцев назад +1

      We appreciate your opinions, but we all know the rules👍🏼

    • @brunobaretta5522
      @brunobaretta5522 6 месяцев назад

      @@Heavycardboard Whoops your right! I misread that last play! Great game though, thanks for streaming

  • @Darkhan9
    @Darkhan9 5 месяцев назад

    That combat system...god damn, why do all the games with space battles use dice for combat? I want to play a boardgame not craps. Well, more money to spend on something else.

    • @alexmo1941
      @alexmo1941 2 месяца назад

      Would you rather have combat take 6 hours and with a graphing calculator 😂

    • @Darkhan9
      @Darkhan9 2 месяца назад

      @@alexmo1941 i don't want to play craps.

  • @elqord.1118
    @elqord.1118 6 месяцев назад +17

    I love the gameplay but man is that map and universe uninteresting and lacking personality. The planets don’t have names, the locations mean nothing. Feels much more like an abstract game than it should. Does the campaign flesh this world out or will we always refer to these planets as “I will go to this yellow planet for an oil barrel”. That feels like a lot of potential was wasted to make this more thematic

    • @josephanderson3026
      @josephanderson3026 6 месяцев назад +8

      Name the planets and cities yourself

    • @elqord.1118
      @elqord.1118 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@josephanderson3026 no sorry, not my jam

    • @mrp4242
      @mrp4242 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@elqord.1118I’m with you. I ordered the game because it looks fun and after reading the rulebook I was very intrigued. Root is in my top-10, but Oath felt bloated to me (still kept it, I mean it’s beautiful). One of the first things I noticed though was the lack of planetary/system names. Yes, I suppose you can ‘name it yourself’, but I think having them on the board adds to the mystique of world building that I think was a bit of a missed opportunity. I mean, even Tiny Epic Galaxies has planet names.
      I’ve not yet ordered the campaign. Waiting to see how this plays first. People have extolled its virtue. But campaign games can be a bit hit or miss for me and the family. I played through the Fenris campaign (Scythe) with my buddies and it took us like a year to complete it. Oath has only seen a few plays and we backed it on kickstarter. We’ve owned Gloomhaven for years, yet are only about 7-8 completed (beaten) scenarios. I did back the new Flash Point campaign because we *love* it and the game seems to beg for that kind of story line; we’ll see.
      So I’m in the wait and see for the Arc’s campaign expansion, perhaps someone else can tell us if expansion adds to the ‘Reach’s’ lore.

    • @the_luggage
      @the_luggage 5 месяцев назад +11

      Fascinating how different things matter to different people. For me, the game is jam-packed with storylines & theme and planet names wouldn't even feature in my top 100 things I'm looking for in a game.

    • @elqord.1118
      @elqord.1118 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@the_luggage It gives you the bones and asks you to imagine the rest. Good if it works for you but it doesn't for me. If you don't make up stuff, the game itself is a cold and clinical affair

  • @RichieDcik
    @RichieDcik 6 месяцев назад +1

    I really dislike the change they made to the map.

    • @maquisardnh
      @maquisardnh 6 месяцев назад +12

      And I really like it! Opinions are fun.

    • @FBracht
      @FBracht 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@maquisardnhmine is just like yours, lookie dat! The new map is absolutely gorgeous

    • @blakraven66
      @blakraven66 6 месяцев назад +5

      Didn't like the 2nd iteration, but this one is fine. The great thing about it is there's no longer dead/empty space, everything in the map is important. My only complaint about it is the lack of color subdues Kyle's art but I understand it's for readability.

    • @ilqrd.6608
      @ilqrd.6608 6 месяцев назад +1

      Same. Still super bummed. It fails to capture the imagination. Looks functional but that is the best I can say about it

    • @saluk7419
      @saluk7419 6 месяцев назад

      @@ilqrd.6608 I liked the old map, but I kind of like how when all the ships are facing inward it looks like the Tangled opinions meme. like so much pent up aggression. It really sells some of the game's themes better than the old one.