I love the snake rollmark! I hate the S&W M&P, white paint filled logos on the M&P 15 (even though they are good rifles). I guess I'm old school, I think the more it looks low-key and classy like a Colt the better it is! Peace.
I got really really lucky and bought a bushmaster and a WASR 10 off a friend of mine for 1200$ just before COVID! They are both built very well! Nothing as far as the typical issues I read about pertaining to both rifles. Very happy with, Big Baby and Arkham! (My deadly works of art). Neither had ever been fired!
@@peteregger7928 I was so excited he still wanted to sell them to me a few years after the initial offer! He's a serious pistol guy so they sat in a closet, in cheap cloth rifle bags for probably a few decades. When I stripped them to clean they were so full of towel lint!!!!
I wish I still had my old (2003-2005?) Bushmaster rifles. I have picked up some very nice uppers and lowers from the new kids on the block (PSA, BCA, Del-Ton) but there's just something about the Bushmasters I miss. I came across an original Bushmaster 20-iinch A2, HBAR last summer. I'm sort of happy to leave the HBAR in my memories, but I almost grabbed it just to have a Bushy again. I wish I had. 🙁 Thanks for the video!
When I did the comparison to the newer Windham I was a little surprised at how well the machining was done on the Bushmaster using the older techniques of the day. The mag well area was way better on the Bushy! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I really like my windham. I've had it for about 7 years. The one thing i don't like about the lower is the gap that appares machined behind the pistol grip. Yours bush master looks like it may have the same gap my windham has.
I have quite a few AR's where the grip and receiver aren't perfect. The Colt new old stock (NOS) grips seem to fit the best most of the time. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks! Much appreciated! Got a couple in the works right now but cannot upload. Service box at the sidewalk got submarined last week from some unusually heavy rain here in Las Vegas. My internet download speed is about half and the upload speed is non-exsistent at .600 MBPS (600K). They're supposed to be out here tomorrow to repair. @@hegefarms4260
The Bushmaster with the Colt upper is a Carbine HBAR, 1:9 twist, NATO 5.56 chamber and barrel chrome lined. Colt complete uppers sold separately back in the early to mid 90's I believe other than 20" were called conversions. The conversions had the caliber stamped on the side of the receivers. 7.62x39, 9mm, .223. The .223 stamped receivers as far as I know all actually had NATO 5.56 barrels. They came complete with a magazine and whatever else was needed for that caliber.
@@peteregger7928 Pretty Neat Set Up I Really Would Like to See You Shoot It if You Haven’t Already In a Video I Missed I Also Prefer The Bushmaster Roll Markings Vs Laser Engraving of Windham
Thank you for confirming what I've always - believed and that is that they just don't make things like they used to. No hate meant against Windham Weaponry. I'm sure they are more than sufficient to get the job done. But I want to say thank you for this very in-depth and informative comparison. I have a fix handled A1 m4 style Bushmaster carbon from the early 90s with a 16 inch barrel that's 14" plus a. 2" compensator or whatever. What I really love about this set up I'll do it is practically meaningless is that the bayonet fits purposely since the compensator is much bigger than a pencil barrel upon which the bayonet wabbles making it basically pointless pardon the pun😊
Sorry for the late reply! RUclips notifications often don't work well! You've probably heard that Windham Weaponry has closed their doors and no longer in business! Unfortunate! Not the best rifles but they weren't bad either!
Not good as any colt dd or fn made quality is wwl I put my 20in government a4 fit and finish up to any the big plays and it beats most colt Cr new models or not colt parts at all mix run of the mill junk a tcp colt old school first model 6920,le is the real good AR-15 they or gtg spec as for Springfield saint s or Windham weaponry a4m4gov they gtg and will last a life time
My older Windham's from years ago had no issues either. Something changed in about the last two years. Unfortunate they had to close their doors and shut down the business!
Thanks! I think original Bushmaster's are rare... on RUclips anyway! They were considered as good or maybe better than Colt back in the early 90's! Too bad Freedom Arms Group (Remington) destroyed the original company!
@@peteregger7928 I bought a preban bushmaster a2 a few weeks ago. Never fired, had an awful time with the rear take down in, which I took care of. Have not zeroed it yet, but it appears better build quality than my old colts. Got rid of the colt hbar that had the stupid block in the lower.
Good comparison. I'm with you on the Bushmaster lower being much nicer/ HD. Kind of disappointed with the WW since their prices are a little on the premium side. I'd like to see how your Rock River compares to these. Thanks
Thanks! My Rock River build was mostly just the barrel, buffer assembly, BCG and furniture. Can't remember what I used on the lower but I'm thinking it was a PSA. Rock River will only sell the lower if the order is placed by the FFL. They will not let you make the purchase and then ship to the FFL of your choice. FFL's around here don't get to excited about having to get on the phone and jump through some artificially created hoops. Anyway that's how it was when I tried to order a lower from them at the time. Chicago! Lol!
Where/when did you get that Windham Weaponry rifle? I have never seen such a poorly made rifle with their name on it ever. I really couldn’t believe it. After watching your video I pulled out my rifle to compare all the areas in question and my rifle had none of the problems yours did except the mag well was thin compared to your Bushmaster. But it was machined perfect. I don’t know if you just got an employee having a bad day or what but honestly I don’t understand why WW would let that rifle go to sale like that. I have never seen anything like it and the only thing that looks like Windham to me is the name on it.
Yep! Bought directly from them! Wasn't real happy about it either and their customer service wasn't exactly proactive! Don't look at Windham quite the same way anymore and now that Richard Dyke (owner) has passed on...?
@@peteregger7928 So this is a newer rifle? If so that’s not a good sign and it really saddens me. WW was my go to for affordable quality. I was about to buy their AR in 7.62
New Windham weaponry a4m4gov etc better fit finish then my colt my dd. And will out shoot both them. Look at the new colts all run of the mil crap if they have a Cr. Serial number junks cheap crap if it old school tcp it's a 6920le gtg the Windham weaponry is a fine AR-15 deep dark blueing fit so tite mades lot the so called high end guns look lk run of the Mill and it's as high in as they get now wwl is gtg Saint gtg fine ars
I bought the complete lower brand new that way. If you look closely at the stock you can see the little "B" forging. Bought the complete lower around late "94" maybe early "95".
Now let’s compare the actual names. ‘Bushmaster’ evokes images South East Asian or Central American jungles. And being the master of your environment. ‘Windham Weaponry’ evokes images of Wuthering Heights or some other gay shit. So. . . Bushmaster, for the win. Based solely on its name.
Good eye! It's actually a 1994 Colt conversion upper sitting on top of the Bushmaster lower for this video. The Colt upper conversion's back then came with the sear block lower BCG because they didn't know what type of lower they were going to be used on. Only Colt was doing this with the BCG supplied uppers. Some manufacturers back then did civilianize the trigger group and at the time I made my purchase this was the case with Bushmaster. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@peteregger7928I have a question my ar the front of the barrel where the muzzle goes is that a thread protector? Or I gotta take it to someone to make me some threads
@@Dredogg820 Not sure I'm understanding your question? If the muzzle end of the barrel is threaded it should be 1/2" x 28 TPI (threads per inch) for 5.56/.223 and you just install the muzzle device of your choice using some type of jamb nut, crush washer or split lock washer. If you do not wish to run a muzzle device then a screw on thread protector should be used.
I bought a ban model that doesn't have have flash hider on the barrel and not machined for a screw on type but someone has installed a three position stock. Weapon is new never fired,any ideas on obtaining a flash hider that will fit said weapon without machining?
They sold compensators/brakes that would attach with set screws for the non-threaded barrels years ago during the Assault Weapons Ban. They may still be around somewhere but I haven't seen one for quite some time. You may be able to machine one from a larger caliber A2 such as LR308/A10 and drill holes for set screws. The only other option is to pull the barrel and have someone thread it. There's a retired METRO cop here in Vegas that would thread an AR barrel for $50.00. I believe John Thomas of Retro Arms Works offers this service but I don't know what he charges. R.A.W. is out of Illinois.
I have this same type firearm, my question is: in front of my serial # it does not have a “L” in front of the numbers. It has BFI then the serial number. What is the difference between the “L” and BFI.
Was your's purchased before or after the original Bushmaster was sold to Remington (Freedom Arms Group)? Thinking that might be the difference? "L" was original Bushmaster for sure but don't know when or who started using BFI?
Original Bushmaster was made in Windham, Maine. Bushmaster owner sold to the "Freedom Arms Group" which was basically "Remington". Freedom Arms Group moved manufacturing to New York which is when quality went down hill! Richard Dyke the original owner of Bushmaster after his non-compete agreement expired got back into business rehiring many of his old employees calling his new company Windham Weaponry and once again started manufacturing in Windham, Maine. Freedom Arms Group (Remington) Bushmaster once again moved manufacturing to a brand new facility in the state of Alabama but Remington eventually went bankrupt! Windham Weaponry last September closed their doors for financial reasons after Richard Dyke the original owner of Bushmaster passed away but has recently reopened under new management/ownership and is for now back in business!
Yes, light weight but the profile is backwards if you ask me! Seems to work though as both of my Windham A2 Government's one with 1:7 and the other with 1:9 are accurate.
Windham Weaponry rifles are good! Other than receiving a blem lower from them awhile back after paying full retail they have always functioned flawless and shot accurate! My real gripe with Windham is using standard A2 front sight bases instead of the correct "F" marked. Still like them though and own three!
That Bushmaster lower looks awesome, thats a keeper for sure, love the actual stamping.
The mag well area on the Bushmaster was really much better! Old school machining practices as good if not better than a lot of the new CAD/CNC stuff!
I am a fan of the armpistol snake rollmark. Very nice! Many of the external differences between the two are due to different forgings being used.
I love the snake rollmark! I hate the S&W M&P, white paint filled logos on the M&P 15 (even though they are good rifles). I guess I'm old school, I think the more it looks low-key and classy like a Colt the better it is!
Peace.
The Bushmaster snake logo is way better than a horse! Lol!
I got really really lucky and bought a bushmaster and a WASR 10 off a friend of mine for 1200$ just before COVID! They are both built very well! Nothing as far as the typical issues I read about pertaining to both rifles. Very happy with, Big Baby and Arkham! (My deadly works of art). Neither had ever been fired!
Original Bushmasters are hard to find let alone unfired! The Bushmaster is worth what you paid for both of them! Your friend gave you a great deal!
@@peteregger7928 I was so excited he still wanted to sell them to me a few years after the initial offer! He's a serious pistol guy so they sat in a closet, in cheap cloth rifle bags for probably a few decades. When I stripped them to clean they were so full of towel lint!!!!
I wish I still had my old (2003-2005?) Bushmaster rifles. I have picked up some very nice uppers and lowers from the new kids on the block (PSA, BCA, Del-Ton) but there's just something about the Bushmasters I miss. I came across an original Bushmaster 20-iinch A2, HBAR last summer. I'm sort of happy to leave the HBAR in my memories, but I almost grabbed it just to have a Bushy again. I wish I had. 🙁
Thanks for the video!
When I did the comparison to the newer Windham I was a little surprised at how well the machining was done on the Bushmaster using the older techniques of the day. The mag well area was way better on the Bushy! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I grabbed the same, a2 hbar, for 400 on GB. COuld not believe I got it.
A video I didn't think I needed! Cool stuff.
Thanks! Much appreciated!
I really like my windham. I've had it for about 7 years. The one thing i don't like about the lower is the gap that appares machined behind the pistol grip. Yours bush master looks like it may have the same gap my windham has.
I have quite a few AR's where the grip and receiver aren't perfect. The Colt new old stock (NOS) grips seem to fit the best most of the time. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have a Windham Weaponary AR10 with some aftermarket parts and it’s amazing
Windham's aren't bad! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I hate to hear Windham Weponery is going out of Business as of 9/12/23
I just got their email! They made decent rifles. That's to bad!
Love your videos
Thanks! Much appreciated! Got a couple in the works right now but cannot upload. Service box at the sidewalk got submarined last week from some unusually heavy rain here in Las Vegas. My internet download speed is about half and the upload speed is non-exsistent at .600 MBPS (600K). They're supposed to be out here tomorrow to repair. @@hegefarms4260
Actually they just opened again under new ownership and management 😊
Thanks For The Comparison Pete 😀😊😀 I Like Both Rifles Is The Bushmaster 1:9 or 1:7 Twist
The Bushmaster with the Colt upper is a Carbine HBAR, 1:9 twist, NATO 5.56 chamber and barrel chrome lined. Colt complete uppers sold separately back in the early to mid 90's I believe other than 20" were called conversions. The conversions had the caliber stamped on the side of the receivers. 7.62x39, 9mm, .223. The .223 stamped receivers as far as I know all actually had NATO 5.56 barrels. They came complete with a magazine and whatever else was needed for that caliber.
@@peteregger7928 Pretty Neat Set Up I Really Would Like to See You Shoot It if You Haven’t Already In a Video I Missed I Also Prefer The Bushmaster Roll Markings Vs Laser Engraving of Windham
I have an original Bushmaster and gotta say it rocks
They originals have slightly thicker dimensions everywhere so maybe that makes them a little more robust I think! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you for confirming what I've always - believed and that is that they just don't make things like they used to. No hate meant against Windham Weaponry. I'm sure they are more than sufficient to get the job done. But I want to say thank you for this very in-depth and informative comparison. I have a fix handled A1 m4 style Bushmaster carbon from the early 90s with a 16 inch barrel that's 14" plus a. 2" compensator or whatever. What I really love about this set up I'll do it is practically meaningless is that the bayonet fits purposely since the compensator is much bigger than a pencil barrel upon which the bayonet wabbles making it basically pointless pardon the pun😊
Sorry for the late reply! RUclips notifications often don't work well! You've probably heard that Windham Weaponry has closed their doors and no longer in business! Unfortunate! Not the best rifles but they weren't bad either!
Not good as any colt dd or fn made quality is wwl I put my 20in government a4 fit and finish up to any the big plays and it beats most colt Cr new models or not colt parts at all mix run of the mill junk a tcp colt old school first model 6920,le is the real good AR-15 they or gtg spec as for Springfield saint s or Windham weaponry a4m4gov they gtg and will last a life time
I have 2 of Windhams MPC's from about 2012, and they don't exhibit any of the defects seen on your example.
My older Windham's from years ago had no issues either. Something changed in about the last two years. Unfortunate they had to close their doors and shut down the business!
as always good stuff, i have to check mine out along with my colts.
Thanks! I think original Bushmaster's are rare... on RUclips anyway! They were considered as good or maybe better than Colt back in the early 90's! Too bad Freedom Arms Group (Remington) destroyed the original company!
@@peteregger7928 I bought a preban bushmaster a2 a few weeks ago. Never fired, had an awful time with the rear take down in, which I took care of. Have not zeroed it yet, but it appears better build quality than my old colts. Got rid of the colt hbar that had the stupid block in the lower.
@@majorlee76251 A2! Never fired! That's a find!
Good comparison. I'm with you on the Bushmaster lower being much nicer/ HD. Kind of disappointed with the WW since their prices are a little on the premium side. I'd like to see how your Rock River compares to these. Thanks
Thanks! My Rock River build was mostly just the barrel, buffer assembly, BCG and furniture. Can't remember what I used on the lower but I'm thinking it was a PSA. Rock River will only sell the lower if the order is placed by the FFL. They will not let you make the purchase and then ship to the FFL of your choice. FFL's around here don't get to excited about having to get on the phone and jump through some artificially created hoops. Anyway that's how it was when I tried to order a lower from them at the time. Chicago! Lol!
Windham uses both laser and roll marks still. The fsb is correct for the carry handle
Here's an older video I did talking about detachable "Commercial" vs MilSpec dimension handles. ruclips.net/video/lI9VT-ai65c/видео.html
Where/when did you get that Windham Weaponry rifle? I have never seen such a poorly made rifle with their name on it ever. I really couldn’t believe it. After watching your video I pulled out my rifle to compare all the areas in question and my rifle had none of the problems yours did except the mag well was thin compared to your Bushmaster. But it was machined perfect. I don’t know if you just got an employee having a bad day or what but honestly
I don’t understand why WW would let that rifle go to sale like that. I have never seen anything like it and the only thing that looks like Windham to me is the name on it.
Yep! Bought directly from them! Wasn't real happy about it either and their customer service wasn't exactly proactive! Don't look at Windham quite the same way anymore and now that Richard Dyke (owner) has passed on...?
@@peteregger7928 So this is a newer rifle? If so that’s not a good sign and it really saddens me. WW was my go to for affordable quality. I was about to buy their AR in 7.62
@@bigmacfullerton7870 ruclips.net/video/8ZMw5BzBfUw/видео.html About a year ago! Here's another video I did on a recent Windham purchase!
New Windham weaponry a4m4gov etc better fit finish then my colt my dd. And will out shoot both them. Look at the new colts all run of the mil crap if they have a Cr. Serial number junks cheap crap if it old school tcp it's a 6920le gtg the Windham weaponry is a fine AR-15 deep dark blueing fit so tite mades lot the so called high end guns look lk run of the Mill and it's as high in as they get now wwl is gtg Saint gtg fine ars
@@rickyjohnson9594slow down when you are typing my man..... for efff sake
looks like somebody installed a retro xm177 style car stock on the bushmaster with that aluminum stock and spanner nut assembly.
I bought the complete lower brand new that way. If you look closely at the stock you can see the little "B" forging. Bought the complete lower around late "94" maybe early "95".
Cool man!
Thanks Hybrid!
Now let’s compare the actual names.
‘Bushmaster’ evokes images South East Asian or Central American jungles.
And being the master of your environment.
‘Windham Weaponry’ evokes images of Wuthering Heights or some other gay shit.
So. . .
Bushmaster, for the win. Based solely on its name.
Ha! Ha! Hard to beat the name "Bushmaster"!
Windham weaponry a4m4gov good as colts dd both
I am Bushmaster, master of the bush. lol
@@peteregger7928
bushmaster has that damn ban era BCG and hammer just like mine thats a very close SN.
Good eye! It's actually a 1994 Colt conversion upper sitting on top of the Bushmaster lower for this video. The Colt upper conversion's back then came with the sear block lower BCG because they didn't know what type of lower they were going to be used on. Only Colt was doing this with the BCG supplied uppers. Some manufacturers back then did civilianize the trigger group and at the time I made my purchase this was the case with Bushmaster. Thanks for watching and commenting
I just bought one from egunner can’t wait to use it
Bushmaster? Original?
@@peteregger7928 it’s a XM15-E2S
@@peteregger7928I have a question my ar the front of the barrel where the muzzle goes is that a thread protector? Or I gotta take it to someone to make me some threads
@@Dredogg820 Not sure I'm understanding your question? If the muzzle end of the barrel is threaded it should be 1/2" x 28 TPI (threads per inch) for 5.56/.223 and you just install the muzzle device of your choice using some type of jamb nut, crush washer or split lock washer. If you do not wish to run a muzzle device then a screw on thread protector should be used.
I bought a ban model that doesn't have have flash hider on the barrel and not machined for a screw on type but someone has installed a three position stock. Weapon is new never fired,any ideas on obtaining a flash hider that will fit said weapon without machining?
They sold compensators/brakes that would attach with set screws for the non-threaded barrels years ago during the Assault Weapons Ban. They may still be around somewhere but I haven't seen one for quite some time. You may be able to machine one from a larger caliber A2 such as LR308/A10 and drill holes for set screws. The only other option is to pull the barrel and have someone thread it. There's a retired METRO cop here in Vegas that would thread an AR barrel for $50.00. I believe John Thomas of Retro Arms Works offers this service but I don't know what he charges. R.A.W. is out of Illinois.
i am looking for the same thing..... i have a xm15 hbar 20"barrel without the flash hider and was wondering how to attach one
@@answersforlooking9430 The set screw version I'm sure is still around... somewhere! Lol!
Bush master is a good gun
Yes, the original was! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have this same type firearm, my question is: in front of my serial # it does not have a “L” in front of the numbers. It has BFI then the serial number. What is the difference between the “L” and BFI.
Was your's purchased before or after the original Bushmaster was sold to Remington (Freedom Arms Group)? Thinking that might be the difference? "L" was original Bushmaster for sure but don't know when or who started using BFI?
How many kinds of bushmaster are made and what from country the original bushmaster
Original Bushmaster was made in Windham, Maine. Bushmaster owner sold to the "Freedom Arms Group" which was basically "Remington". Freedom Arms Group moved manufacturing to New York which is when quality went down hill! Richard Dyke the original owner of Bushmaster after his non-compete agreement expired got back into business rehiring many of his old employees calling his new company Windham Weaponry and once again started manufacturing in Windham, Maine. Freedom Arms Group (Remington) Bushmaster once again moved manufacturing to a brand new facility in the state of Alabama but Remington eventually went bankrupt! Windham Weaponry last September closed their doors for financial reasons after Richard Dyke the original owner of Bushmaster passed away but has recently reopened under new management/ownership and is for now back in business!
The Windham has a Gov't profile barrel?
Yes, light weight but the profile is backwards if you ask me! Seems to work though as both of my Windham A2 Government's one with 1:7 and the other with 1:9 are accurate.
Just picked up this Windham. For $500 complete, fee's and taxes, not too shady.
Windham Weaponry rifles are good! Other than receiving a blem lower from them awhile back after paying full retail they have always functioned flawless and shot accurate! My real gripe with Windham is using standard A2 front sight bases instead of the correct "F" marked. Still like them though and own three!
@@peteregger7928for me the FSB not being F marked was actually good because I was building an A2 at the time.
Used?
Yes, but very carefully!@@ryanranard5187
Do you own a Vietnam era rifles?
No, I don't. I wish I had picked something up back in the day!
, quality best in new wwl ars gtg
Sadly Windham Weaponry has closed their doors! No longer in business! That's unfortunate!