Simple answer- No, tithing is not biblical in the New Testament. Don't confuse tithing with giving. I've sat in many services and heard preaching from Malachi 3. If your only giving 10% then according to Malachi your still under the curse. The Apostle Paul talked about this referring to the Law of circumcision (Tithing is under the law). He states in Gal 5:3 if you keep the law of circumcision than your obligated to keep the whole Law. Some preachers like to confuse giving with tithing. They are not the same. One is freedom the other is Law.
Yes amen well said.. An exactly in Malachi I have heard so many pastors quoting that saying the church is the storehouse and taking rest of the verse out of context plus the lord was talking about the priest where robbing God it's crazy how these leaders put the burdens on the people them there selves won't carry
I was tithing for 8 years straight, God has blessed me so much. We should not serve money but allow money to serve us. Tithing might not be required BUT giving sure is!! And IF you have a true relationship with Jesus like you say you do, simply ask him to put any amount in your heart and soul and you will give it. Simple as that..
TheMirabillis yes it is right as God wants every person loving & believing in Jesus to be wealthy & prosperous. We are no more living under any curse of poverty..we have the authority to have it all & to have a heart to give,perhaps the people you are referring to give more & that’s how they are blessed abundantly..we should do our bit what the Bible say & not bother about how people are living
Give to the poor!!! You give to HIM!!! How is giving to a church to build bigger buildings, or giving a pastor who drives around in an expensive car giving to God??? How corrupt the gospel has become! You are still trying to place burdens on people by telling them where they should start... People read your Bible it says between you and God! Don't let another man tell you how much you should give! And if you are going to be beholden to the law of tithing, the word of God says You must be beholden to all other laws 600 plus! Be blessed I pray for these men of God, because I believe the heart is in the right place, but do not beat leading people astray. If you are giving money to a church, and ignoring the poor people in that said Church, are we fulfilling God's law? Loving your neighbor as yourself?
Anyone who says you are giving to God, then puts the cash in his pocket or building. (The temple of God was torn down 70 AD) has a problem on the heart area!
If you don't give to your church. How will any bills get paid? But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. II Corinthians 9:6-7 NKJV
@@raecenemalone8699 read your Bible my sister....go up a few verses before...who was that money for? It was for the poor suffering saints...certainly NOT for a pastor to buy private jets...live in a lavish house or drive a Bentley! Wake up!!!
It always amazes me how so many pastors say we aren't under the law but have no problem quoting Old Testament dealing with the tithe when that was under the law how convenient when it benefits them.
I have not found a dedicated believer who has a problem with tithing. For sure some people abuse tithing, but that's their problem. I have found many times that people who have a problem with tithing have problem with giving in general, they don't love the Church, and they are very selfish and stingy.
Haven't you taken the time to honestly listen to the arguments for and against tithing? Any serious and humble consideration of both sides of the argument should at least begin to recognise the valid and logical interpretation of any anti-tithing argument. Your grossly overgeneralised comments have very little substance in scripture. "You have found....", "I have found....", "...they are very selfish and stingy...". Your presentation is simply a personal attack on Born Again Christians who have arrived at a different understanding of giving and tithing. Can't you at least begin to recognise that these people, like Todd, actually have a valid argument? You tithe? Good. May the Lord continue to bless you in all you do. Others don't tithe, but give with a generous heart? Good, may the Lord prosper and bless them. What frustrates me about proponents of the tithe is how they characteristically have the same arguments, as if they were parroting off what they have heard, rather than through a fair and honest examination of the Word of God. I can see why tithing proponents believe what they believe. I can also see why anti-tithing proponents believe what they believe. I believe the Word of God offers greater support for the latter. Be happy and serve God. To tithe or not to tithe, that is the question. It has been adequately answered for me. I am convinced. Are you?
What i saw some churches that i've visited was they teach the malakai 3:10 after service including the visitors and invited people that not know the bibble yet and they dont comeback..i pray them to teach how to fix their heart first and giving is to be follow depend on thier conviction..
+Song of Joy exactly the old tithe wasn't even dealing with money but of the stocks . Jesus criticize the Pharisee when they were saying they tithe and fast but the lord talk of the importance of love , kindness mercy and grace
The new testament principle is very straight as Paul said,' Those who give generously will be blessed generously and those who give less generously will be BLESS less.' Many people do not believe that even though pauls says it,' FOR GOD LOVE A CHEERFUL GIVER.' However, when it comes to money it become the matter of heart and many says Paul was not talking to them ha ha ha
Oliver C . well said brother I don't believe that tithing is biblical under the new covenant. But if we examined the scriptures about the offering. I've come to the conclusion that if we're not giving 10% of our income as an offering more likely we're not giving the biblical offering.. we are supposed to be generous with our giving and if we merely give 5or 10dollars out of 500 dollars we are not giving to man we're giving to God is not our money is his money. sow sparingly and you will reap sparingly. The true is many people don't give 10% of their income as an offering because they're stingy. And God doesn't need our money he owns everything We are the ones that are blessed when we give .
Giving is good but what I believe you to be endorsing is contrary to what God through Paul says in 2nd Corinthians 9;6-15. Be blessed and keep giving as God leads you to give.@@max41050
When it comes to tithing,I ask myself what's the motive? If a person really wants to serve God,then that's ok.HOWEVER if a person tithes just expecting to get rewards from God,then their motives are wrong. Salvation is a gift,and cannot be bought.Blessings Andrew
Here are a few key points that everyone needs to understand, on the topic of tithing: (1) Levites receive tithes, and no one else. God Himself mandated this (see Numbers 18:21-22). (2) The tithe of Abraham to Melchizeded was a tithe of tradition, not religion, becasue there were no religious or legal requirement to tithe, as he did. (3) The tithe promised by Jacob was similarly one of tradition, not a religious observance (4) No gentile has ever been required to tithe in the Old testament. Only Jews. And only to Levites, because of Numbers 18:21-22. (5) No gentile has ever been asked to tithe in the New Testament, and certainly, not the church (6) Every mention to tithe in the New Testament was directed to Jews, as was required by the law of Moses, never to Gentiles (7) Gentile believers were never required to live by the law of Moses in the New Testament; this law is what mandated tithing. Concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is not the full counsel of God. It is an excerpt, quoted to the church since the dark Ages as a deliberate misrepresentation of God's Word. There is even a date when this actually started. When we give, in the New testament, it is Jesus' promise in Luke 6:38 whereby we are blessed, instead of the act of tithing. Jesus said, "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." If you're interested in learning more, I have researched and written about this in "Tither, You Are Free!", which you can pick up on Amazon. Be blessed!
The tithe was meant to take care of the poor, orphans and Widows in society but lately I see no help to the needy but people driving better cars and living lavish life style idk ....
My pastor does those things. I am a single parent, and they have given to me many times. They also do charity work, give packs to the homeless, help little elderly ladies, and they redid the orphanage. I have seen many pastors who give from their resources.
No, tithe was for the Levi priests, because they didn’t have an inheritance like the rest of Israel. And it was never money. It was produce, vine and cattle. And it was 10%. If one lived too far from the temple to actually carry the tithe then they were allowed to sell the vine and cattle and produce and use the profit to travel on and then give what was left once they arrived at the temple. Tithing is not a requirement. Giving to ministries one believes in is allowed and giving to others is always expected of followers of Christ.
Jesus told one guy to sell everything he had, give it to the poor and follow Him. I've never seen a rich 'pastor' do that. Jesus let Judas be in charge of the money bag so why would you think he cared about the money?
"Giving to the poor/ needy" its was referring to (hunger and thirst) poor in spirit and hunger and thirst for Christ' righteousness.thats why (Matt.5:3) Jesus mention " blessed are the poor" meaning- poor in spirit or hunger and thirst for righteousness and they shall be filled...
@@lancionbedick4615 Mark 10:21 does say poor as in "needy" not poor in spirit. You are citing a different verse. This is how it goes: Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,”he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
@@avasmith235 didnt you know what talking about, the wors.POOR IN SPIRIT? what mean poor in spirit you.hav been mention? Why Jesus told in Matt chptr 5" blessed.are poor"? Do you hav d idea and to whom Jesus addresses" blessed are the poor,?
How do we give to God??? We give to God by Giving to the poor. Churches should make sure that the tithes are for being a Blessing. Yes, the pastor needs to be paid and the expenses of the church( building )needs to be addressed with the money that's coming in. However, there many churches that disregard the widows, orphans, the homeless etc in order to facilitate the running of the church. Even after Jesus preached, he FEED the poor who were listening to his teachings. People not only need Spiritual Food, they need physical food, clothing and shelter too. The church should be taking care of the less fortunate, not the Government.
"The church should be taking care of the less fortunate, not the Government." I would prefer to say: along with the government. We must remember that in OT times, the system of government of God's people was a theocracy or something close; that is a government where leaders are members of the clergy, and the state's legal system is based on religious laws. In other words, the church was involved in what we hold governments responsible for today... and that included Social Welfare. Thus the tithes and what it was used for....
You're definitely blessed if you tithe. But if you don't, your not cursed. With that being said, real believers have no problem giving, its who we are. Giving is a way of life if you're truly born again. You look forward to giving. Some ppl are stingy and tight, so that's on them. And those ppl wonder why ends don't meet.
If I tith, I am under the curse of the law, not Grace, Romans 10:4, today's modern tithing is not biblical read Leviticus, if you are really tithing are you tithing under the scripture, are you obeying the three different types of tithing I don't think so matter fact I know so.
I don't see how you could be blessed for either following the law of Moses if you think you can tithe money of which you aren't allowed to or you are giving from compulsion so neither of these paths will lead to blessing when both goes against the word of God
Salvation is NOT conditional in any way. God may "call upon us" for various things, but those are not conditional transactions that we must act on or we lose our salvation. He encourages us to move in directions that help us experience Him (love) so that we can eventually (in this life or beyond) become truly at one with him (manifested sons & daughters of Him). Salvation is a guaranteed byproduct of being in Christ from the foundation of the world. What we DO or DON'T do in life has nothing to do with keeping your salvation, but it does have everything to do with experiencing your life to the fullest that God intended for us. Unless you can experience and see the Father's unconditional love for you, you will always be driven to do all kinds of "rituals" like tithing from a fear of "losing your salvation", and you won't be able to live a fearless life (perfect love casts out fear). When you are free from the fear that "Christian" teaching has enslaved the world in (that God is conditional/transactional), you will be surprised at how naturally you excel in "goodness" out of desire, not compulsion. Peace
May the Lord bless those who rely on his Word. the best part of this are the reminders that we should not give if we only want to be noticed or to be recognized, we should not give if we expect something in exchange, we should not give if we think that God won't love you if you don't give.
"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:21) "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." (Matthew 6:24) These are just a few of the verses that come to mind when I think about giving, and God knows our heart...better than we do.
The real question here is who we give to or how is it that we should give. The scriptures say give with love and that is true but should we only be giving to the local church/temple or should we also spread that out into the community and the needy. I feel that we should give to God by giving and helping one another and not just the church.
I'm Christian and give to my church pastor for radio, a sign, pay church bills but when he got a new Mercedes I kinda had to stop and think about it. my problem isn't giving to church for bills, parking lot lights, radio, TV my problem is they force tithes saying if we don't pay we be cursed then Christian get scared pay out of fear even if they struggling with finances. they tell us trust in the lord. so people keep tithing get in more debt. I had car problem set me back I still tithe but when I see my pastor in a Mercedes I'm like really. your members are in financial trouble and you do this. I'm not a hater I just feel bad for the Christian who struggling. I would feel bad driving a Mercedes when there are poor people out there in my community. I guess not all are humble or think the same way. God loves a cheerful giver so I give a tithe, offering what I can because if I give out of fear or obligation its not blessing you. they don't teach Christians that. they forcing tithes out of fear and so many Christian are going down. while some pastor are main ones who prosper.
Most Pastors have never studied the Covenant God made with the Levite tribe and Israel. So this subject is difficult to approach if there is no line upon line or precept upon precept study of the subject. A few small scriptures taken out of context cannot compare to years of study of tithing. The books of the Bible needed for study will take months and years to grasp the context needed. Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Malachi, Hebrews are the foundational books needed to encapsulate the subject in its entirety. First, .....why did God establish tithing in regards to the whole tribe of Levi? Answer: there was a promise of dividing the promised land among the tribes (thousands of people per tribe) However, the Tribe of Levi would not be receiving land to grow crops and raise animals. Instead they would be responsible for all things Tabernacle.....cleaning, making shewbread, conducting daily sacrifices, music, managing the storehouse, etc. So to compensate for their laborious tasks the other tribes who got land to grow crops, like wheat, olives, rye, vineyards and raised cattle.....would take a tenth of the best and provide the tribe of Levi the food to be stored in the storehouse. Abraham gave a tenth portion, of the things recovered from the things taken during a raid on Sodom and Gomorrah which included Lot's possessions as well, to Melchisedek after this priest blessed him and gave him bread and wine when he returned with the goods. Genesis 14 and Hebrews 7 (verse 1- 6). It was a war spoil and not his personal wealth 10%. Hebrews chapters 8, 9, and 10 show that this priesthood covenant ( Levite covenant) is now obsolete. There is no Tabernacle or Temple. There is no longer any need of daily sacrifices or yearly High Priest atonement in the Most Holy Place or Holy of holies. When Jesus was crucified, his blood established a new covenant. Up until his death, the old covenant was still in place....but when he died the veil in the Temple that separated the Holy of holies for the High Priest....was torn in two pieces. Now we all are kings and priests under a new covenant.....which is probably why the church started with a share equal, no one suffered lack as seen in the Book of Acts chapter 4:30 - 35.
I've been tithing my whole life and have been taught its mandatory. Now I'm searching these topic. It isnt so I can find some excuse not to give, but because I'm currently caught up in debt. My point is, if the topic is indeed mandatory or not. Regardless, I still plan on giving a tenth but out of knowledge that it's not mandatory
Hi John. I'll simply offer my interpretation of key related scriptures and an opinion. Tithing was compulsory (mandatory) under Mosaic law in the bible. However, only items of the land - produce and livestock were accepted as tithable items. There's no such thing as a tithe on earned monetary wages although there's ample evidence money was used in those times. One also has to consider that the Levitical Priesthood only received 1% of the tithe. they received that from the Levites who actually received 10% of the items of the land from the Israelites who were farmers and livestock producers within the Holy land. Old testament laws have been fulfilled by Christ in the Christian faith. Even if we were still under the law, we wouldn't be able to tithe money as there is nowhere in the bible where tithing law was amended to include money. So tithing isn't giving. It was a mandatory tax but didn't involve money. No we are free to give as our convictions lead, money or otherwise, not under compulsion as some would have us believe.
This should be freeing you up to give what you can until your debt is paid you are still supposed to pay the people you owe money to before you really have any money to give
the missing piece here is PASTORS are NOT PRIESTS. WE ARE..... GOD expects us to help others in need among us. we aren't giving to the organization called church but loving people we are in relationship with including our pastor. DONT GIVE TO ANYTHING YOU DONT LOVE, IT PROFITS NOTHING.
I grew up being taught that tithing was just as important now as in the Old Testament, because Jesus mentioned it during His ministry. For the past few years, I've done it because I didn't want to be a thief regarding what God has blessed me with...but I haven't really asked Him about the specifics, either. I do believe that if you attend a specific church regularly, member or not, you should contribute to that church as a gesture of respect...both toward God and those who lead that church. I donate to mission work as well, but that's a personal choice because I want to help those with little or even nothing. I do believe the desire to bless the needy comes from God, especially when it has nothing to do with fueling our own ego. A lot of philanthropists do the same thing, because they prefer showing kindness away from the spotlight of criticism.
I love how they say, " you don't have to tithe, but, you should probably give more than that."...So in other words, They continue to make you feel guilty if you dont tithe, and they continue to pressure you into giving more than 10%.
mathew mann Nah, YOU feel guilty. I don't believe the tithe is relevant to Christians, but I DO believe my giving should exceed the so called 10% I used to call a tithe. If you used to tithe a tenth, but now realize it's not biblical anymore, why give less than the tenth now that you know you should give freely?? Most people who argue against the tithe don't do so because the scripture says it was only for Israel, but they argue it because they don't want to give much of anything anyway.
Read the heart of God on giving from 2nd Corinthians 9;6-15. You telling someone how much they should give and then shaming if they don't give at least 10% is in direct contrast to what God is saying in this passage. @@AyoBaby Also, who should I give my money too? 2nd Corinthians 9:9????
@@AyoBaby tithing was more than 10% if you add up the tithes. And it was not money, but food i.e, livestock and produce. The local church isn't a storehouse and the pastor in not a Levitical priest. The church isn't the Temple. Please keep in mind a tithe and giving are not the same. People use them interchangeably, huge error. Giving is a gift. Tithing is a tax, involuntary.
The thing I don't understand is practically every southern Baptist preacher will say in practically every sermon pertaining to giving that Jesus commands us to give 10 percent of our gross income to the church. When searching for that in the biblical texts I have never seen anything to substantiate that claim
From the book of New Testament on Matthew 5:17 Jesus said: " Don't misunderstand why I have come - it isn't to cancel the laws of Moses and the warnings of the prophets.No,I came to fulfill them,and make them all come true. It's very clear that tithing is under the law of Moses but it was instructed by God.for from the book of Exodus 22: 29 God said to Moses " You must be prompt in giving me the tithe of your crops and your wine,and the redemption payment for your oldest son. Also from the book of Malachi 3: 8-10 God said" 8 You have robbed me of the tithes and offerings due to me.9 And so the awesome curse of God is cursing you for your whole nation hs been robbing me.10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse so that there will be food enough in my temple: if you do,I will open up the windows of heaven for you and pour out blessing so great you won't have room enough to take it in! And Jesus also said from the book of Luke 20:25 He said, "Then give the emperor all that is his- and give to God all that is His. I think it's very clear that even Jesus commanded us to give what belongs to God -the tithes because He knows the Churches needs it for the expenses of the churches,for church mission to bring the gospel to every place..if we don't give our tithes, how can we support what the churches needs? Our Pastors just reminded us of giving our tithes but not commanded us to give our tithes.it is our own free will to give it. And it's our own guilty conscience To Our Almighty God if we don't give it because He commanded us to give it through Moses.
Usually it takes a person to lose their house or their car or something that they own that they pay for in order for them to understand to stop giving their money to these preachers. I hope people wake up before they lose everything they have including their marriage because a lot of marriages end due to financial situations of you and your wife being broke and poor and your spouse can't take it anymore so they leave you.
There is not one passage of Scripture telling any Jew or Christian to give 10% of their money to a religious institution. Second, while tithing is biblical it is not Christian. This was strictly a practice for the nation of Israel under the Old Covenant which has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ in the New Covenant.
Jesus said giving to believers Was GIVING TO HIM. remember Matthew 25:40. You wont hear that in church, they want you to give it to the church treasury. Not the members!
Definitely real truth on the subject of the tithe. This is the greatest breakdown that I have yet to hear concerning the matter. I feel even more compelled to give as God prospers me. It is a part of my journey in faith and my relationship with Yahweh to be able to give more for advancing the work of the Kingdom of God, not just give to pay the bills of the "church".
James Harris Yea Brother thts.good 4 you. But wht about the widows, orphans an the poor..should this be a law 4 them as well.??? I see as anybody got it give it bit those tht.live in poverty let them be a cheerfulgiving .to each it's own.
Many preachers use Malachi 3:8-10, which makes a similar promise: “Will a man ROB GOD? ... In TITHES AND OFFERINGS. BUT we must go back in the Torah, to find where the LAW is that discusses this matter. In Numbers 18:19-24, it states: “And the LORD YHVH spake unto Aaron, Thou shalt have no INHERITANCE in their land, neither shalt thou have any part among them: I am thy part and thine inheritance among the children of Israel. And, behold, I have given (to) THE CHILDREN OF LEVI all THE TENTH (TITHE) in Israel FOR AN INHERITANCE, FOR THEIR SERVICE (THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD service), even THE SERVICE OF THE TABERNACLE of the congregation.... But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD YHVH, I have given TO THE LEVITES to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.” Deuteronomy 18:1-5 reiterates this command: “The PRIESTS the LEVITES, and all the TRIBE OF LEVI, shall have no part nor INHERITANCE with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the LORD YHVH made by fire, and his inheritance. Therefore shall they have no inheritance among their brethren: the LORD YHVH is their inheritance, as He hath said unto them. And this shall be THE PRIEST'S DUE FROM THE PEOPLE, from them that offer a sacrifice, whether it be ox or sheep; and THEY SHALL GIVE IT UNTO THE PRIEST the shoulder, and the two cheeks, and the maw. The FIRSTFRUIT also of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the first of the fleece of thy sheep, shalt thou give him. For the LORD YHVH thy God hath chosen him out of all thy tribes, to stand to minister in the name of the LORD YHVH, him and his sons for ever....” So, does this really apply today? The Temple was destroyed in AD 70, and Yeshua is now our High Priest, this having no need of the Levitical Priesthood. Besides, the true believers in Messiah are to be the holy temple of God, (1 Corinthians 3:16-17 & 6:19) just as Yeshua referred to His body as the temple. (John 2:19-21) The Renewed Testament reconfirms that it was the Levites who were commanded to take tithes from their brethren, “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5) Paul confessed: “I ROBBED other churches, taking wages of them, TO DO YOU SERVICE.” Now his reward is: “In order that, when I preach the gospel, I may set forth the gospel of Messiah WITHOUT CHARGE OR COST, SO THAT I DON'T ABUSE MY POWER OF AUTHORITY OR INFLUENCE in proclaiming the gospel.” (2 Corinthians 11:8 & 1 Corinthians 9:18)
I love your teaching. You are as a father among believers and I am very blessed to have your channel as a resource in my life. I love how dedicated you are to using scripture in your answers to questions and how you reveal the gospel in all of questions you answer.
Very well said , the principle of giving , The tithe was a law given to the Israelites , not the gentiles nations , so is not direct commandment or law or even a revelation in the new testament about tithe in the form of money and that is passed to the gentiles , that change to money , not only those changes , Numbers 18 explain about 10% to the Levites that in turn separate 1/10 of that tight to the priesthood , that means 1% , often called the tight of the tight , many didn't tight in Israel because even if they work the fields , land , produce , animals they just receive a salary , the produce or animals didn't belong to them and salary , is the equivalent today to money and money was never use for tithe , however the principle of the tithe o do is a good principle as expressed in the interview it turn in to negative consequences since many only go about to comply to that doctrine of man never expressed in the bible to tithe in money, and would have continue in offerings cheerfully , as proposed in the heart , according to how has been prosper as it was done in the early church , as the interviewed said today people give about 2 or 3% but worst yet is a letter given to the Nation of Israel Malachi 3 in which people are condemned , coursed accused of been a thief when that letter was never to gentiles nations and much less about money, that is wrong , very wrong , and on top the Roman Catholic doctrine to have excomúlgate the Christians for not giving a monetary tithe not found in the whole bible causes the person to be falling in to a guilt state that ends departing from the church and we know that back slider will get seven spirits that are worse than the one originally cast out of that person and then this person may become irresponsible at work , at family , may lose the job and therefore in most cases that marriage and on top of the those that tried to force that monetary tithe on that person see all destroy in the street and said , see that happens to him because didn't tithe and if that person now got the knowledge that is not such a thing of monetary tithe in the bible and reply that claim ,the response is But you are not congregating , that is the cherry on the top of irony , the same people that force him out with all the human doctrine of monetary tithe are now accusing the person of not assisting church , so if you consider those situations that are occurring on the daily bases then o do the principle of tithe is good the application has caused more harm than good , so if the churches have stay in the principle yes written in the bible about giving cheerfully and all the was mention in the interview ,as the church did in the beginning many would not have back slide because that none biblical monetary tithe despite how good the principle is and many of those may have died separate from the Lord all for that good principle that have been turned in to a course , for some reason God in his wisdom never inspired a prophet or apostle to introduce a change to a tithe from food to money and from only Israel to gentiles , from only those that own that produce and animals to now every one , from 1% the priesthood ...Numbers 18 ...receive from the Levites to the whole 10% just because is called the tithe of the tithe and is use as if it means 10% when is actually 1%, and pastors claim is all for them , that has nothign and is no were near what the tithe was for in the first place.
In order to show the gratitude towards God, Every Christian should give tithe. 1. We support to spreading gospel. 2. We feed the family who feeds us in spiritually. Not only that 3. We will get blessings more and more...
The church I go to does not go around with a bag to collect tithes but our pastor makes mention that most give on line or else their is a donation box at the front of the church. First church that I’ve been to that does not go on about tithe. It’s so liberating and I’m a joyful giver to my church community. Praise God for this wonderful teaching on tithing.
They probably have more money coming in than when they hammer them, with fear mongering and threats of being cursed and be accused of robbing God if they don't bring their tithe to the storehouse they claim is the church
He basically tried to get people to give more and do a type of tithing by saying your should give weekly as the false bibles say. The modern false bibles say give each/every week. That verse isn't about weekly giving at all. That was Paul passing through and collecting for the saints who needed help so he was telling the church he was visiting to have whatever they were giving ready so that he didn't have to worry about when he got there. Satan is really sneaky. Go and compare the KJV To the modern versions and you will see the slight of hand. Real lies, real fast.
Hi @bible4truth - did you get a chance to watch the video? What verse did you feel was used incorrectly? Also, here is an article on the King James Version of the Bible that you may find helpful. bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
Look at this guys recommendation of bibles and you will see he is trying to get you to NOT read the KJV. Why are american's so gullible? Seriously? How can you be such a sucker? Are you a berean?
about those bible versions: Yeah...And the SEED in every beleiver is JESUS CHRIST (Luke 8:11; John 1:1, Gal 2:16). That is why Paul says in Gal 2:20 KJV it is no longer I that live, but **CHRIST that liveth IN ME**. Where is Christ? IN ME. So...here is my question for you: Is CHRIST in you? If so, does Christ IN YOU sin? Answer should be: NO But do you sin in the flesh? Answer should be: Yes, (if we say we have no sin, we lie) So, how is it that 1 John 3:9 in the modern versions say Christ (the SEED) in you sins at all? Your FLESH isn't born again. It is the Spirit of God that is the inner man and that CANNOT sin. And, there is only ONE SPIRIT in all saints, who are all sinners still according to the flesh, yet sinless according to the spirit. Or are you saying Jesus is corruptible seed? Also. Notice the NASB error Perversions... English Standard Version No one born of God **makes a practice of sinning**, for **God’s seed abides in him**, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. New American Standard Bible No one who is born of God **practices sin**, because **His seed abides in him**; and **he cannot sin** (oops!), because he is born of God. (the forgot to change it--oops!...they fully perverted it in the ESV, which has been since revised) CORRECT - MATCHES PAUL (in my flesh dwelth no good thing) King James Bible Whosoever is **born of God doth not commit sin**; for **his seed remaineth in him**: and **he cannot sin**, because he is born of God.
Here is the verse used incorrectly. And, surely you don't agree because you don't recommend a KJV bible. And I see why... Paul wasn't coming through every/each week. There was a dearth and Paul was simply facilitating the collection for the saints as he was passing through and wanted them to have their collection ready. It wasn't a weekly/each week thing at all. FUTURE TENSE AND ONGOING English Standard Version On the first day of **every week**, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as **he may prosper**, so that there will be no collecting when I come. New American Standard Bible On the first day of **every week** each one of you is to put aside and save, as he **may prosper**, so that no collections be made when I come. BASED ON DEARTH, SIMPLY FACILITATING HELPING CHRISTIANS AS PAUL PASSED THRU...THIS ISN'T A WEEKLY THING. THAT IS COMPULSION, THAT IS TRYING TO ESTABLISH A REPETITIVE GIVING OF $$$. And, weeky at that. King James Bible Upon the first day of **the week** let every one of you lay by him in store, as God **hath prospered him**, that there be no gatherings when I come. bring your liberality...Satan is tricky.
Three simple questions: 1. Can it be given to any organization? 2. Can I give for some time and stop tithing for some time and continue again? 3. Does it have to absolutely be 10% or can it be less or more? Please tell me the answers. Thank you
This is the best Biblical response i've heard. I learned later in the Bible that the tithe wasnt a New Testament commandment. Are we giving because we love God? Its not really about the amount but how you're using what God gave you out of your love for him. Have to be honest with yourself when you ask that question.
What people need to hear is who is the tithing goes to. The reason God started tithing is welfare to the poor people. The tithe is not for church or pastors. Please educate people on that. The pastors are fed enough. Jesus said that we should give to the poor. Even, in the old testament, one tenth of the tithe for the Levite and the rest to the poor. Nehemiah 10:38. When next you want to talk about tithe, educate the people about it. In the Bible, Jesus fed 5000 people. Nowadays, 5000 people are feeding the pastor. The pastors will use the money to build more churches and even more tithes would come in. Then it's time to start buying jets. Yet, many are poor in the church.
Wasn't Paul taking up a special collection for the poor in Israel when he asked them to put aside something every Sunday? This was not a commandment for everyone to give each and every Sunday. Correct me if I'm wrong. God bless.
They still want to push it somewhat even though they are not saying it. When they had a garden in Israel they left the corners of the field for the poor so they could have something to eat. 😊
The new testament principle is very straight as Paul said,' Those who give generously will be blessed generously and those who give less generously will be BLESS less.' Many people do not believe that even though pauls says it,' FOR GOD LOVE A CHEERFUL GIVER.' However, when it comes to money it become the matter of heart and many says Paul was not talking to them ha ha ha. When you touch someone pocket you are touching his heart.
@@michaelmerck7576 Give generousley is not a small amount is it?? And less generousely is not a big amount is it? The Jews only gave those if they were land owners not everyone and they also got it back every three years. But in this case paul is telling everyone not just land owners. Because it is a matter of faith. Once I worked for BBC as an Engineer and I thank God and gave all the month money while I was earning 1700 pounds per week not month and I gave it all for one month, the amount Paul is asking for is much bigger than 23 percent but like the old testament you will get it back from the Lord because he says he will bless you generously. And most people fail to do this, othere are seeking God for everything and causes themselves mental problems where God says those who are sklled will not serve before an inferior person.
I think that Jesus' disciples are supposed to give to human need. As regards tithing, the mainstay of the tithe was to go to Levites and 1/10 of that to the High Priest. Today we know Jesus is the High Priest and we are a nation of priests (according to Peter)...….so IF tithing was in effect then we would just give it to ourselves right? Under the Law Covenant, tithing was not a "make up your own rules" thing. It was the LAW of tithing and had to be done according to the Law dictates. There's no way that is in effect now under the New Covenant which is a new Age. (Unless it's manipulated)
What is the difference between giving and tithing? Aren't they both GIVING? If tithe is forbidden wouldn't have Jesus forbid tithe in the N.T? Now why giving offerings when both offering and tithe were commanded by God in the O.T? I believe both tithing and offering fall under Giving. I don't know why people argue over something that keeps the place of worship and the Pastor in charge maintained. The error is to put pressure on people in order to give. Giving needs to be taught properly.
In my opinion there's a common misconception that tithing is a form of giving. Giving can only be done as an act of free will. Tithing was compulsory (mandatory) under Mosaic law. Abraham's tithe may have been customary and in that sense, compulsory, although there's no biblical evidence that it was ordered by God. Also, nowhere was money accepted as a tithe in the bible. However, money was accepted as an offering and in the temple tax. The tithe under Mosaic law was specifically received as items from the increase of the land (produce and livestock). Giving is unlimited in scope, type, frequency or amount. We are free to give, not bound to pay.
The difference between tithing and giving is that tithing under Mosaic Law was limited to within the Holy Land, could only be given to a Levite (with the exception of a poor tithe and the tithe for the festival), was a compulsory (mandatory) ordinance under the law, was limited in the amount and the contents could only be items of the land - food and livestock. Giving (or offerings) can involve money, items or time, is unlimited in scope and size, can be given to anyone anywhere.
It was not mentioned in the new testament because the tithing was for the levites and Jesus fulfilled the law and no need to bring back the fulfilled law in the new covenant
Respectfully Brother, and with love I encourage you to go back and keep reading… the Tithe was also for the widow, stranger in your gates(see Deuteronomy14 for example), and orphans, Primarily the Feast days, and in Leviticus it says if you are unable to make the journey to the Feast you use the tithe for yourself, but go even further back and we see Abraham giving a tithe to Melchizedek in Genesis 14. This is before there were Levites. God’s Commandments for Tithing were Not “only for the Levites”. Hope these extra verses and info is a blessing and taken with no offense, as none is intended. God Bless!!
@@Shield_Labs I never said no to those things either, you need to go back and read my text. The point of the text was to show tithing was not for ministers in God's house, they got a tenth of a tith, 1%. Read your bible and read my text
Tithe(10%) in the OT is talked about in different places. For example Lev 27:30-34 talks about a holy tithe which is given to the levites entirely. However, Deuteronomy 14:22-29 talks about a different 10% that is eaten in a feast by the owner and those who are less privileged-levites,stranger,orphans and widows within your gates. God reserves a 10% for himself that he supports the ministry of levites. He also expected the people to share with the less privileged. The Lord also asked for freewill offerings from the people as we see in Exodus 35:4-19. The OT and NT are not in disagreement on the subject of the sacred 10% and offerings.
The only thing I can say is that no matter what you do for God as long it’s a good thing then it’s a good thing. The only biblical obligation that exists is to love each other as selves. The benefit of tithing is that God will also keep his paybacks on time
Biblical tithing wasn't really giving, it was a compulsory ordinance under Mosaic law, a tax really that was specifically (and only) composed of produce and livestock. Giving is the essence of Christianity but we are free to give, not bound to pay.
We don't have to tithe, we get to tithe. In the scriptures, tithing is a means of honoring God(Prov 3:9). Abraham honored God by tithing before the Law was even given(Heb 7:1-2). Abel brought an offering to God long before the Law was given(Gen 4:4). By tithing, we acknowledge God as our source, so that even though we have 10% less, we know He will bless the remaining 90% so that our purchasing power is greater than if we had kept the 100%. I've tithed from the time I became a Christian up until this day, which is many, many years. Through life's ups and downs God has never failed to honor that commitment with special provision. Blessings in terms of health, promotion at work and most importantly being used in part time ministry. Tithing just works. It works because it requires faith to do it and faith pleases God(Heb 11:6). Sometimes I even do special exploits in faith, where I will quadruple tithe(40%). I do it anonymously. The blessings that follow are thrilling. It seems the greater the step of faith, the greater the blessing. So to me, it's just silly to quibble over a tithe when it can so enhance your walk with the Lord!
The Biblical Truth Of Giving (2 Corinthians 9: 7) Each of YOU should give what YOU have DECIDED in your heart to give, not RELUCTANTLY or under COMPULSION, for God loves a CHEERFUL GIVER.] Paul says each of you should decide in your heart what you will give = In other words NO one should determine how much money you give other than YOU… Secondly, When we give we shouldn’t give RELUCTANTLY = If you are feeling reluctant about giving, you should examine (in prayer and with careful thought) why you feel this way. That way when you give your money you can give with the right spirit. After all God loves a Cheerful Giver. Finally Paul says that we shouldn't give under COMPULSION= In other words we shouldn't be giving because somebody is mandating and pressuring us and coercing us into giving a certain amount. Whatever we give it should be given with the right attitude because God is looking more at YOUR ATTITUDE THAN THE AMOUNT THAT YOU GIVE.. #TruthTime
God gave everything for me. He saved me! The least I can do is give him back part of what he allows me to earn and my time so that it can be used to serve others and get the message of the Gospel to them. It's like any human relationship. When you're in love with that person you shower them with gifts. You don't care how much something costs, you just care about expressing your love for that person. Why shouldn't we give even more to God, the one who gave us life and loves us more than we can imagine, more than any other human has?
giving to church yes I do but don't lie to me and tell me I will be cursed, I'm a robber and give the devil permission to give me sickness and financial problems if I don't tithe because sweetie I'm still having financial problems and I know Jesus died I won't ever get sick or go hungry. I don't depend on tithe. I just give a tithe or offering or more if I can. forcing of the tithe and putting fear in Christians that they will be cursed really ticks me off. do pastor really need million dollars homes, car, jets or can they live humble like Jesus. it makes Christians look bad like that Joel olsteen rejected those hurricane victims outside his church. he wasn't going to support them so he lied saying his church was flooded. with all these million you would think they had a building for emergency like that. so are we really giving to God or the pastors pockets? then again not all pastor are this way. I know a catholic priest who raised money for his church to build a new building and lives in a little modest home driving a modest car. while my Christian pastor lives in a huge home and drives Mercedes. not all are going to live humble lives. they love that money when its in there hands. May God forgive me but its true.
The truth of that is that Jesus doesn't expect or demand that you try to match what is free gift of salvation with man's attempt to buy his way to paradise.Jesus would much rather you take that money and tend to his sheep and care for others
Because you can never even come close by giving money when Jesus is primarily concerned with your heart.your idea would be like throwing money at Jesus so you won't have to take time to get to know him
Do Not give before you pay your Bills, that would be poor stewardship. If you give money that you owe, you aren't giving your money but someone else's. So tithing is not a new testament command that's true, but saying you need to give before being responsible with your money is stupid and will lead to problems. Not very wise . God wants you to be free not in debt.
He Lives Funny he says this when Christian principal are what America claims to live by. Yet they take from our money before we get to even spend it. have we forgotten fica, SSI, Medicare that's all goes to the poor and disabled, elderly right. Then we turn around and go to the church and give it again, if it was biblical I would but it's a contradiction. Ijs
Yes we have a rich church in the west,rich pastors too, certainly compared to a generation ago. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is as true of the church as it is of the world-rich west,while many millions of Christians in poor countries lack physically and spiritually,how can this be. Give where the needs are greatest for the gospel,this will give great enthusiasm to your giving,be led by vision for God's kingdom. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also
My situation is very difficult. I long in my heart to give financially to my Church, however my husband is a non-believer and has asked me to stop giving due to our changes in finance during COVID. I still desire to give and I do in many other ways, but feel conflicted in regards to giving money...I do not want to go against my husbands request. Does anyone have advice in regards to this please!? 🙏🏼 Blessings from Australia!
Blessing fellow believers in lifestyle is just as important as giving financially, having someone over for a meal or spending time over a cup of coffee and lending an ear to someone in need is a wonderful thing to do. God sees the heart not just the $$. Fellow Aussie
How about a teaching on what the money should be used for... These guys are quick to talk about giving but you'll never hear them talk about biblical spending... The reality is none of these "pastors" is given the right to use money for anything... The hunger for money seems to run all the way to church leadership...
They call it stewardship when they want us to be thrifty and frugal,don't pay a trash bill ,take it to the dump yourself,don't eat out,things like that
"2% of Christians give a tithe or more." . The question "Are NT Christians supposed to tithe" misses the crux of the issue. The issue is why are Christians today, living in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, with some of the best creature comforts and prosperity available, still behaving like we have no other option but to be stingy and then using the lack of a biblical mandate as a way to ease our guilty conscience? . God is our love, our life, our all! But when it's time to give, and we'll pay for house, cars, food, vacation, Christmas gifts, kids' 3-4 extracurricular activities and all the equipment and fees that go with it, 200-channels of cable, Netflix, unlimited data plan, etc....then might have $5 left to toss in the collection for God's kingdom. . THAT'S the problem God's church faces today, not the question of whether tithing is mandated.
The tight or the giving does not belong to the pastor, it belongs to the poor, the widow, the lost, the orphan etc. There is giving in the church, but the Christian is called to go and preach the gospel with Holy Spirit fruit, giving, preaching and miracles(not forcing God, but aawaiting His will in everything) If you just sit in church meetings without movement towards the needy and lost, you will start to glorify messages and gifts of the pastor and start to give more in church then what you were called to do. God is a Holy God do not expect Him to make you rich in this world, expect Him to make you holy. Holiness is the highest attribute of the being of God, this is why the angels shout holy, holy in Heaven. Holy is also the Name God. This is why the Spirit in the old testament has been renamed as the Holy Spirit in the New testament. This is because the Holy Spirit can live in men and make him holy. In the old testament the Spirit of God just rested for a while for a specific purpose on the man or prophet of God. Holy Spirit is the Life of God given to man as a gift. Holy Spirit is not a title, but caries the Highest attribute of God's being, His holiness. Do not get lost in this self gospel of prosperity that is all about me and my life here on earth, but let God be God and though His Holy will do to you as He please while He perfect His working in you. It's all about God Himself, not you and what you want. Eternal life in John 17 is that we May know the Father and His Son Jesus Christ that He has sent. He came for the poor and commanded later do not gather riches here on earth where thiefs can brake in etc, but gather for you riches in heaven. This is the krucks of heavenly mindednes for the child of God. Do not beg with your giving to God, do not feel entitled before He decides what's good for you. Focus on winning souls, fruit of the Spirit, giving with joy without expecting anything in return to allow God to have his will what's good for you.
Investing in eternal things is giving to PEOPLE who are in genuine need, NOT in support of dead buildings, parking lots, lighting, chandeliers, carpeting, etc. It was ALWAYS about needy people and the actual priests of God, NOT to the modern clergy class as a man-made profession. Can anyone show me one example where the OT law required to hand over one red cent to the Levites? I have read where ranchers and farmers with producing lands, flocks and herds were required to hand over a tenth of the INCREASE from those producing realms, NOT monetary wages earned from labor. This guy is another false teacher. He added "wealth" in what he said as to what is to be handed over as "giving". The Law makes NO use of that term in relation to money, especially monetary WAGES from labor. This guys is just another false teacher among so many.
Thanks @Jamie - we're glad you find the videos helpful. Be sure to compare what we say to God's Word or follow along as we share verses that way you can compare what we're saying / teaching to what God's Word says.
The tithe was for the nation of Israel. We (The body of Christ) are now under the new covenant. We are no longer under the law. We are now under grace. Under the law they were required to give by necessity, but in 2 Corinthians chapter 9 we are instructed to give non grudgingly for God loves a cheerful giver. Think about it. You cannot do both of these at the same time. You can either give by necessity or purpose giving in your heart and be a cheerful giver. Its either be required to give a tenth of every dollar or give as you purpose. The law is of necessity, but grace allows you to decide for yourself. Additionally, the biblical tithe had nothing to do with money. They were required to tithe off their livestock, produce, and crops. They never used money to tithe. The tithe was for those who worked their land so many were excluded from the tithe like fishermen. No land, no livestock, no vineyard, meant no tithe. The homeless and the widows were not required to tithe either. But tell a prosperity preacher that and he will tell you that they are robbing God! The tithe applied to farmers and herdsmen. Unfortunately, the prosperity gospel preached today failed to rightly divide the word of truth as in the bible we have law giving instructions and grace giving instructions. We the new Body of Christ are under grace giving instructions. Romans 6 :14 says we are not under the law, we are under grace. And if the prosperity gospel preachers teach that we are required to tithe then they must also teach not to leave your residence on the sabbath, or remove all the leaven from your homes on passover eve, or 3 times per year all men must visit the holy land. etc etc... But no they will say that was for Israel. Bingo! Exactly! If you are teaching that we are under the law, you cannot pick and choose which laws you want to follow and not follow.
TITHING PART 2 As I looked at this New church generation, tears(blood) tickle down my chin(holy). Looking at this New generation preachers, I discovered they are given to knowledge (filthy) and not WISDOM(refined). Looking at the men of God in this new church generation, I discovered they are using knowledge (filthy) to explain my word(holy) rather than wisdom(refined). Yes, a man may want to go for knowledge (excessive) and at the end, he will see himself becoming an ATHEIST. Pastors are not excluded. Are you not supposed to be teaching your sheep(members) to appear before me in holiness (Deuteronomy 22:5, Jeremiah 4:30, 1 Corinthians 11:6) and not argue if tithing is right or not. Now, Mr Preacher I have somewhat against thee. Thou hast used your excessive knowledge (filthy) to CONFUSE humanity although to those my spirit (holy) are in them, they cannot be confused. Now talking about TITHE, it is a great MYSTERY but will be exposed for man to know and learn. A man went to work and came with a thousand naira and the Pastor told him to bring a tenth for his tithing. Looking at the pastor, I discovered he has not paid his own one- tenth. Foolish Pastor! How could you tell your sheep to bring one-tenth when you have not brought yours. Now Pastors are likened to TAX COLLECTOR(A book written by the author - search books by Anthony Ebubechukwu Orji on Amazon)). What is the meaning of that? What is the meaning of that? Yes, tax in a country is used to renovate, repair and provide essential services for the people likewise in my body(churches), these taxes(tithes) are used to RENOVATE the house(churches). Now, a tax-tithe collector (Pastor) was also told to bring his tithe(tax) but he secretly IGNORED seeing he is the one that collects the tithes and no one will know if he pays his or not. Foolish Pastor! Are you aware you are dealing with Spirit of Spirit(God) and not man. Looking at the Pastor, I discovered he has a stain on his pocket(spiritually). Writing the word(pocket-spiritually), a man given to knowledge (filthy) quickly asked if the garment of salvation which a man receives when he gives his life to God do have pockets. Foolish man! Why using your carnal knowledge for things of Spirit. Looking at the Pastor(thief), I discovered he was called a THEIF by God and a ROBBER by the devil. But why? But why? Yes, a man that God has blessed and refuses to bring a tenth unto God and not the Pastor, Bishop, Left and Right Reverend is a THIEF before God and a ROBBER before the devil. Yes, this is what it means. A man was looking for work and God in his infinite MERCY sent his angels (GOOD and MERCY) and immediately the man got the work. Now that man will be too foolish not to bring a tenth before God at the end of the month. What should the money be used for? Yes, as a tax in a country is used for essential services(road repairs, other important facilities etc), so is the tithe(tax) used by the worker(Pastor, Bishop, Apostle, Evangelist) to do the work of God. What kind of work? Yes, a church that was build 15years ago needs to be repainted. A church that does not have instruments need complete sets of musical instruments, a church that was using wooden chairs before needs a modern plastic chairs, a church that does not have sound systems, need a modern and workable one. Ones in a year, churches need to do HARVEST, which is one of the reason of tithing. Sunday shlchool manuals which the members are using need to be published using that tithe, Christian magazine(Evangelism) also need to be produced for man(sinners) to read and get CONVERTED so that their will be MEAT(CONVERTS) in the store house(church and paradise ). Now, a church that pay their tithe and the PASTOR(THIEF) still put burden on them to CONTRIBUTE (evil of evil) in one way or the other inside my body(churches) is a very, very big thief. Burden(contribution) should not be placed on the members to CONTRIBUTE (evil of evil) inside the church. The tithe gotten from the members should be used for that purpose. Yes, a MAN(Apostle, Bishop, Pope, Right Reverend, Left Reverend, Church members , Deacon, Deaconness, Choir Master, ect that does not pay his TITHE is a REBEL to God and to man. Why? Why? Yes, God is Spirit and those that will worship him MUST worship him in spirit and in truth. How can a man eat all and expect the devil to SPARE him. Infact the devil will MAJESTICALLY walk up to God and seek PERMISSION ( most atimes it is granted) to CHASTISE such a man. Now talking about a man that God called to open JUST A SINGLE MINISTRY and due to greed, he decides to go into BUSINESS by opening churches here and there on earth. This is the wisdom for them: Church 1: gets her tithe and send a tenth of the total tithe to the head quarters. Now the head quarter will collect all these tithes from all her branches. It is called TITHE of TITHE. What the head quarter does with the tithe is this, if there is any of it's branches that are having very, very few members, it means that what they will accumulate will be less and hence they need to do HARVEST and as such the head quarters will send either a tenth to that church or a part for them to do HARVEST. Now if a man(Angel, Pastor, Bishop, Apostle, Deacon, Pope etc) stands on the pulpit and tell HUMANITY not to pay TITHE, such a man(Bishop, Teacher, Apostle, Evangelist, Right and Left Reverend etc) SHOULD BE ACCURSED BY THE BRETHREN. IT IS FINISHED! IT IS FINISHED! Books by the writer is available on Amazon, create space, kindle direct publishing, ( Search - books by Anthony Orji)
How you spend your money paints a true picture of your heart. If you ever claim to love God with all your heart mind soul and strength then this should be reflected in your giving.
I find disagreement with that statement. I pay household expenses, maintain a vehicle of which I use for my work and buy groceries and sometimes have to grab a sandwich somewhere when I travel so I don't think I am extravagant in any way but you couldn't see my expenses and tell anything about me other than I try to be sensible in all I do
I don't like to tithe anymore because I've seen what the money is actually spent on- the expensive tv for the pastor's home, the mercedes car for the church secretary, the never ending starbucks account for the youth pastor. one year of me giving humbly out of my heart every single paycheck with money I have because of my college degree went to paying for the pastor's home tv. It's supposed to compensate them for their services but I feel used. I tithe thinking it's going to the rent of the church building and the church bulletins but I've seen what most of it goes to and it's to pay the staff generous salaries so they can buy nice things. it's like the churches don't take the money seriously and squander it and make a fool out of those that give it
Its where your treasure is, your heart will be also. He said it wrong. This is very important because your heart wants to be bad. If our treasure is where our heart is, we are in big trouble!!
Do Christians believe that it is God’s will to tithe the things that are Caesar’s unto God? ---> “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are Gods.” < Mathew 22:21, Mark 12:17, and Luke 20:25.
He says "if you were an Old Testament Jew you didn't just give one tenth. you gave...." How would he account for the fact Jesus born under Jewish law did not give 10% as tithe yet fulfilled the law 100% or else he could not be our Passover lamb without sin? What about his Apostles who could not tithe under the law not having produce of the field or flocks to tithe? Some were Fishermen and fish obviously did not qualify under tithing law. Just imagine the stink at the Temple if fish storehouse in the vicinity of the grain one!
*Give offering , Give more than 10% and help to Kingdom of God . Give by believing in scripture Luke 6:38 " Give and you will be given " ..... you will see a real quick Financial help from God . Sow a seed and you will see the crops of Blessings*
You are saying you are not under law, but you hold on to old testament tithe, That is real contradiction.. Why do you not go and get gold from fishes mouths, You are issuing temple tax and claiming it as tithe, Matthew 17:27 But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."
you can give what u want and think what u want or do what u want thats it!but the question is ,is that what God wants us to do?H e said give 10% not 23% not 20% but 10% from ur income ,gross or net...and now u are in the new covenant and the old covenant is gone?thats ur point...No tithing according to Paul not from God Himself...choose who u want to obey...if u love Him just follow dont complain or argue...
In bible it don’t say to give money. Giving can be anything like food, water, clothes, money, your time, etc. People think giving is just money but it isn’t. Let God lead you what to do, don’t follow after man.
There is a difference between tithing and giving, or offering. Malachi 3:8 ESV says: "Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions." God would not have said this if that 10 percent (tithe) did not belong to Him. He is telling us that it is not ours. He would never accuse us of stealing (rob) had it belonged to us. So, since the 10 percent belongs to God, we are not giving anything when we tithe but are simply putting God's portion where He wants it to go. Holding on to it would be holding on to what is not ours, thus truly robbing its rightful owner, God. Today, the question is whether God is still laying claim to that 10 percent. If the bible says that He is not then we do not have to tithe. But if it does not say, then we must. Some say He is not, since we are no longer under Law... "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." That is Romans 10:4 ESV / 8. But then in Matthew 5:17-18 ESV / 3, Jesus says: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." Additionally, the present situation is that church members are perceiving that tithes are not being destined to what God has instructed. Many Church leaders, on the other hand are saying that it is the duty of the congregation to tithe and not watch what is being done with it, since that is God's business. Even those who preaches that we are no longer under law insists on keeping this one law. What a predicament! What I can say is that the solution is there in the bible. In the meantime, we can always offer what is ours, and we should. After all, 2 Corinthians 9:6-15 ESV / 29 says: "The point is this: (...) Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."
I agree with your conclusion, that we should give in accordance with what is in our hearts. Amen. I might add that there's strong evidence that the book of Malachi was specifically directed at the Levitical Priesthood. As such it didn't even apply to all of Israel and doesn't apply to us today.
@@markb7067 What other provisions then did our God make for taking care of the widows and orphans? May you please enlighten us as to biblical reference of such?
@@CG-cx9fv I believe that we (God people) are responsible for the provision for taking care of the widows and orphans. It is our responsibility and privilege to give to support those in need as we are able and lead. However, there is no biblical mandate for giving money to any religious institution or any curse for not doing so.
TITHE BY A HOUSE WIFE- PATR 3 A house wife is supposed to pay tithe not COMPULSORILY through MONEY but through her act(HOLY). Yes, a house wife is not just a woman that is married into the house and stays at home but a woman that is married into the house and does a job seemingly for a woman to do. Now, a woman who works for example in the bank cannot take her money and pay TITHE without her husband's approval and a woman who pays tithe without her husband's approval has done that in the FLESH and not by the SPIRIT(Holiest). Now a woman is tied to the LAW of her husband provided she is married to a man and the man is still ALIVE. But immediately the man dies, she is FREE from the LAW of her husband and she is now tied to the LAW of either God or the devil depending on whether she is holy or not. If she is holy, she is tied to the law of God but if she is unholy, she is tied to the LAW of the devil. Now concerning a woman paying TITHE, it shall be explained in PLAIN LANGUAGE for humanity to LEARN and also know that a being(Holy) is writing through man(writer). Now, a woman that the husband is ALIVE and gives her MONEY and mentions what she is to do with the money, if the woman fails to CARRY out such a TASK(whether holy or not), she has SINNED AGAINST God. This exclude a woman going to buy evil inside the house. Now, a woman whom her husband tells to use money for certain things in the HOUSE and the woman decides to REMOVE one-tenth when her husband has not given her permission to use the money for TITHE, has done that in the FLESH and not in the SPIRIT. But if the man later finds out and decides to FORGIVE her, her SINS will truly be FORGIVEN her. It is a STOLEN MONEY before God and that money can never, never be accepted before the MOST HOLY GOD. It is finished! It is finished!
Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Amen
@@samsucceeds2995 yes, that’s not tithing. It’s giving what’s in your heart. Not the same.
@@undergrace1808 amen
Simple answer- No, tithing is not biblical in the New Testament. Don't confuse tithing with giving. I've sat in many services and heard preaching from Malachi 3. If your only giving 10% then according to Malachi your still under the curse. The Apostle Paul talked about this referring to the Law of circumcision (Tithing is under the law). He states in Gal 5:3 if you keep the law of circumcision than your obligated to keep the whole Law. Some preachers like to confuse giving with tithing. They are not the same. One is freedom the other is Law.
Yes amen well said.. An exactly in Malachi I have heard so many pastors quoting that saying the church is the storehouse and taking rest of the verse out of context plus the lord was talking about the priest where robbing God it's crazy how these leaders put the burdens on the people them there selves won't carry
wow.
These leaders build these churches and want members to pay for there dream.
1917shooter yes. I agree with giving but Thithing is not needed, but optional.
That's the problem. Giving is what he is speaking. BUT they're are churches and leaders that say you are in sin if you are not TITHING.
I was tithing for 8 years straight, God has blessed me so much. We should not serve money but allow money to serve us. Tithing might not be required BUT giving sure is!! And IF you have a true relationship with Jesus like you say you do, simply ask him to put any amount in your heart and soul and you will give it. Simple as that..
Jesus feeds Required giving you say? Please explain Romans 12:6-8 for us in light of your assertion.
JesuFeeds.. Well said!
Jesus feeds.. Well said!
Do you think it is right and just that certain preachers live in huge mansions, drive Rolls Royces and Bentleys, and also own jets ?
Yes or No ?
TheMirabillis yes it is right as God wants every person loving & believing in Jesus to be wealthy & prosperous. We are no more living under any curse of poverty..we have the authority to have it all & to have a heart to give,perhaps the people you are referring to give more & that’s how they are blessed abundantly..we should do our bit what the Bible say & not bother about how people are living
Give to the poor!!! You give to HIM!!! How is giving to a church to build bigger buildings, or giving a pastor who drives around in an expensive car giving to God??? How corrupt the gospel has become! You are still trying to place burdens on people by telling them where they should start... People read your Bible it says between you and God! Don't let another man tell you how much you should give! And if you are going to be beholden to the law of tithing, the word of God says You must be beholden to all other laws 600 plus! Be blessed I pray for these men of God, because I believe the heart is in the right place, but do not beat leading people astray. If you are giving money to a church, and ignoring the poor people in that said Church, are we fulfilling God's law? Loving your neighbor as yourself?
Anyone who says you are giving to God, then puts the cash in his pocket or building. (The temple of God was torn down 70 AD) has a problem on the heart area!
So true! The message of giving is off point from Gods heart. 2nd Corinthians 9:9
Amen!🙌
If you don't give to your church. How will any bills get paid?
But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
II Corinthians 9:6-7 NKJV
@@raecenemalone8699 read your Bible my sister....go up a few verses before...who was that money for? It was for the poor suffering saints...certainly NOT for a pastor to buy private jets...live in a lavish house or drive a Bentley! Wake up!!!
It always amazes me how so many pastors say we aren't under the law but have no problem quoting Old Testament dealing with the tithe when that was under the law how convenient when it benefits them.
I have not found a dedicated believer who has a problem with tithing. For sure some people abuse tithing, but that's their problem. I have found many times that people who have a problem with tithing have problem with giving in general, they don't love the Church, and they are very selfish and stingy.
Haven't you taken the time to honestly listen to the arguments for and against tithing? Any serious and humble consideration of both sides of the argument should at least begin to recognise the valid and logical interpretation of any anti-tithing argument. Your grossly overgeneralised comments have very little substance in scripture. "You have found....", "I have found....", "...they are very selfish and stingy...". Your presentation is simply a personal attack on Born Again Christians who have arrived at a different understanding of giving and tithing. Can't you at least begin to recognise that these people, like Todd, actually have a valid argument? You tithe? Good. May the Lord continue to bless you in all you do. Others don't tithe, but give with a generous heart? Good, may the Lord prosper and bless them. What frustrates me about proponents of the tithe is how they characteristically have the same arguments, as if they were parroting off what they have heard, rather than through a fair and honest examination of the Word of God. I can see why tithing proponents believe what they believe. I can also see why anti-tithing proponents believe what they believe. I believe the Word of God offers greater support for the latter. Be happy and serve God. To tithe or not to tithe, that is the question. It has been adequately answered for me. I am convinced. Are you?
phillyCivicSi he was saying the opposite
What i saw some churches that i've visited was they teach the malakai 3:10 after service including the visitors and invited people that not know the bibble yet and they dont comeback..i pray them to teach how to fix their heart first and giving is to be follow depend on thier conviction..
Few words, did you even watch the video?
Giving and Tithing is NOT synonymous. All giving is lead by the Holy Spirit with no percentage commanded
He runs a mega church they all cherry pick verses to make people think tithing is biblical.
+Song of Joy exactly the old tithe wasn't even dealing with money but of the stocks . Jesus criticize the Pharisee when they were saying they tithe and fast but the lord talk of the importance of love , kindness mercy and grace
The new testament principle is very straight as Paul said,' Those who
give generously will be blessed generously and those who give less
generously will be BLESS less.' Many people do not believe that even
though pauls says it,' FOR GOD LOVE A CHEERFUL GIVER.' However, when it
comes to money it become the matter of heart and many says Paul was not
talking to them ha ha ha
Oliver C . well said brother I don't believe that tithing is biblical under the new covenant. But if we examined the scriptures about the offering. I've come to the conclusion that if we're not giving 10% of our income as an offering more likely we're not giving the biblical offering.. we are supposed to be generous with our giving and if we merely give 5or 10dollars out of 500 dollars we are not giving to man we're giving to God is not our money is his money. sow sparingly and you will reap sparingly. The true is many people don't give 10% of their income as an offering because they're stingy. And God doesn't need our money he owns everything We are the ones that are blessed when we give .
Giving is good but what I believe you to be endorsing is contrary to what God through Paul says in 2nd Corinthians 9;6-15. Be blessed and keep giving as God leads you to give.@@max41050
When it comes to tithing,I ask myself what's the motive? If a person really wants to serve God,then that's ok.HOWEVER if a person tithes just expecting to get rewards from God,then their motives are wrong. Salvation is a gift,and cannot be bought.Blessings Andrew
I'm sorry, but the word 'tithe' perpetuates abuse. No reason to use it to describe giving in a NT church.
Here are a few key points that everyone needs to understand, on the topic of tithing:
(1) Levites receive tithes, and no one else. God Himself mandated this (see Numbers 18:21-22).
(2) The tithe of Abraham to Melchizeded was a tithe of tradition, not religion, becasue there were no religious or legal requirement to tithe, as he did.
(3) The tithe promised by Jacob was similarly one of tradition, not a religious observance
(4) No gentile has ever been required to tithe in the Old testament. Only Jews. And only to Levites, because of Numbers 18:21-22.
(5) No gentile has ever been asked to tithe in the New Testament, and certainly, not the church
(6) Every mention to tithe in the New Testament was directed to Jews, as was required by the law of Moses, never to Gentiles
(7) Gentile believers were never required to live by the law of Moses in the New Testament; this law is what mandated tithing.
Concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is not the full counsel of God. It is an excerpt, quoted to the church since the dark Ages as a deliberate misrepresentation of God's Word. There is even a date when this actually started. When we give, in the New testament, it is Jesus' promise in Luke 6:38 whereby we are blessed, instead of the act of tithing. Jesus said, "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." If you're interested in learning more, I have researched and written about this in "Tither, You Are Free!", which you can pick up on Amazon.
Be blessed!
The tithe was meant to take care of the poor, orphans and Widows in society but lately I see no help to the needy but people driving better cars and living lavish life style idk ....
My pastor does those things. I am a single parent, and they have given to me many times. They also do charity work, give packs to the homeless, help little elderly ladies, and they redid the orphanage. I have seen many pastors who give from their resources.
No, tithe was for the Levi priests, because they didn’t have an inheritance like the rest of Israel. And it was never money. It was produce, vine and cattle. And it was 10%. If one lived too far from the temple to actually carry the tithe then they were allowed to sell the vine and cattle and produce and use the profit to travel on and then give what was left once they arrived at the temple. Tithing is not a requirement. Giving to ministries one believes in is allowed and giving to others is always expected of followers of Christ.
Exactly my thoughts on it
@@cynthiabrundidge4110
RIGHT YOU ARE Cynthia Brundidge. Judas who carried the MONEYBAG had PRODUCE, VINE, AND CATTLE IN THE "MONEYBAG"! U UP 2 DATE!
Allen Elman Read your Bible before you mock me.
Jesus told one guy to sell everything he had, give it to the poor and follow Him. I've never seen a rich 'pastor' do that. Jesus let Judas be in charge of the money bag so why would you think he cared about the money?
"Giving to the poor/ needy" its was referring to (hunger and thirst) poor in spirit and hunger and thirst for Christ' righteousness.thats why (Matt.5:3) Jesus mention " blessed are the poor" meaning- poor in spirit or hunger and thirst for righteousness and they shall be filled...
@@lancionbedick4615
Mark 10:21 does say poor as in "needy" not poor in spirit. You are citing a different verse.
This is how it goes:
Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,”he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
@@lancionbedick4615 POOR not just poor in spirit.
Read MATTHEW 25:35-40
@@avasmith235 didnt you know what talking about, the wors.POOR IN SPIRIT? what mean poor in spirit you.hav been mention? Why Jesus told in Matt chptr 5" blessed.are poor"? Do you hav d idea and to whom Jesus addresses" blessed are the poor,?
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Love offerings are biblical. Tithing in its modern day practice is not biblical and is against God
How do we give to God???
We give to God by Giving to the poor. Churches should make sure that the tithes are for being a Blessing.
Yes, the pastor needs to be paid and the expenses of the church( building )needs to be addressed with the money that's coming in. However, there many churches that disregard the widows, orphans, the homeless etc in order to facilitate the running of the church.
Even after Jesus preached, he FEED the poor who were listening to his teachings. People not only need Spiritual Food, they need physical food, clothing and shelter too. The church should be taking care of the less fortunate, not the Government.
"The church should be taking care of the less fortunate, not the Government."
I would prefer to say: along with the government.
We must remember that in OT times, the system of government of God's people was a theocracy or something close; that is a government where leaders are members of the clergy, and the state's legal system is based on religious laws. In other words, the church was involved in what we hold governments responsible for today... and that included Social Welfare. Thus the tithes and what it was used for....
Churches have no business being in the tithe business
You're definitely blessed if you tithe. But if you don't, your not cursed. With that being said, real believers have no problem giving, its who we are. Giving is a way of life if you're truly born again. You look forward to giving. Some ppl are stingy and tight, so that's on them. And those ppl wonder why ends don't meet.
If I tith, I am under the curse of the law, not Grace, Romans 10:4, today's modern tithing is not biblical read Leviticus, if you are really tithing are you tithing under the scripture, are you obeying the three different types of tithing I don't think so matter fact I know so.
I don't see how you could be blessed for either following the law of Moses if you think you can tithe money of which you aren't allowed to or you are giving from compulsion so neither of these paths will lead to blessing when both goes against the word of God
God can do more with my 90% than I could ever do with my 100%
Tithing was never money. Enough said.
People need to wake up and do your own study. Todays church is a business, Pastors are more like CEO's.
Daniel Sierra so true. My eyes were opened when I begin to study.
Truth!
Daniel Sierra is y is all churches?
Daniel Sierra don't some churches today help the needy and poor with offerings and thites?
Precisely!!! Wolves of wallstreet
Salvation is NOT conditional in any way. God may "call upon us" for various things, but those are not conditional transactions that we must act on or we lose our salvation. He encourages us to move in directions that help us experience Him (love) so that we can eventually (in this life or beyond) become truly at one with him (manifested sons & daughters of Him). Salvation is a guaranteed byproduct of being in Christ from the foundation of the world. What we DO or DON'T do in life has nothing to do with keeping your salvation, but it does have everything to do with experiencing your life to the fullest that God intended for us. Unless you can experience and see the Father's unconditional love for you, you will always be driven to do all kinds of "rituals" like tithing from a fear of "losing your salvation", and you won't be able to live a fearless life (perfect love casts out fear). When you are free from the fear that "Christian" teaching has enslaved the world in (that God is conditional/transactional), you will be surprised at how naturally you excel in "goodness" out of desire, not compulsion.
Peace
May the Lord bless those who rely on his Word. the best part of this are the reminders that we should not give if we only want to be noticed or to be recognized, we should not give if we expect something in exchange, we should not give if we think that God won't love you if you don't give.
All Isreal did not Tithe! Carpenters did not tithe; fishermen did not tithe. Was Never money
Robert Johnson farmers-and those who raised animals were the only ones who tithed.
"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matthew 6:21)
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." (Matthew 6:24)
These are just a few of the verses that come to mind when I think about giving, and God knows our heart...better than we do.
The real question here is who we give to or how is it that we should give. The scriptures say give with love and that is true but should we only be giving to the local church/temple or should we also spread that out into the community and the needy. I feel that we should give to God by giving and helping one another and not just the church.
INQUIZITIV3 both if possible
I'm Christian and give to my church pastor for radio, a sign, pay church bills but when he got a new Mercedes I kinda had to stop and think about it. my problem isn't giving to church for bills, parking lot lights, radio, TV my problem is they force tithes saying if we don't pay we be cursed then Christian get scared pay out of fear even if they struggling with finances. they tell us trust in the lord. so people keep tithing get in more debt. I had car problem set me back I still tithe but when I see my pastor in a Mercedes I'm like really. your members are in financial trouble and you do this. I'm not a hater I just feel bad for the Christian who struggling. I would feel bad driving a Mercedes when there are poor people out there in my community. I guess not all are humble or think the same way. God loves a cheerful giver so I give a tithe, offering what I can because if I give out of fear or obligation its not blessing you. they don't teach Christians that. they forcing tithes out of fear and so many Christian are going down. while some pastor are main ones who prosper.
Most Pastors have never studied the Covenant God made with the Levite tribe and Israel. So this subject is difficult to approach if there is no line upon line or precept upon precept study of the subject. A few small scriptures taken out of context cannot compare to years of study of tithing. The books of the Bible needed for study will take months and years to grasp the context needed.
Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Malachi, Hebrews are the foundational books needed to encapsulate the subject in its entirety.
First, .....why did God establish tithing in regards to the whole tribe of Levi?
Answer: there was a promise of dividing the promised land among the tribes (thousands of people per tribe)
However, the Tribe of Levi would not be receiving land to grow crops and raise animals. Instead they would be responsible for all things Tabernacle.....cleaning, making shewbread, conducting daily sacrifices, music, managing the storehouse, etc. So to compensate for their laborious tasks the other tribes who got land to grow crops, like wheat, olives, rye, vineyards and raised cattle.....would take a tenth of the best and provide the tribe of Levi the food to be stored in the storehouse.
Abraham gave a tenth portion, of the things recovered from the things taken during a raid on Sodom and Gomorrah which included Lot's possessions as well, to Melchisedek after this priest blessed him and gave him bread and wine when he returned with the goods. Genesis 14 and Hebrews 7 (verse 1- 6). It was a war spoil and not his personal wealth 10%.
Hebrews chapters 8, 9, and 10 show that this priesthood covenant ( Levite covenant) is now obsolete. There is no Tabernacle or Temple. There is no longer any need of daily sacrifices or yearly High Priest atonement in the Most Holy Place or Holy of holies.
When Jesus was crucified, his blood established a new covenant. Up until his death, the old covenant was still in place....but when he died the veil in the Temple that separated the Holy of holies for the High Priest....was torn in two pieces. Now we all are kings and priests under a new covenant.....which is probably why the church started with a share equal, no one suffered lack as seen in the Book of Acts chapter 4:30 - 35.
I've been tithing my whole life and have been taught its mandatory. Now I'm searching these topic. It isnt so I can find some excuse not to give, but because I'm currently caught up in debt. My point is, if the topic is indeed mandatory or not. Regardless, I still plan on giving a tenth but out of knowledge that it's not mandatory
Hi John. I'll simply offer my interpretation of key related scriptures and an opinion. Tithing was compulsory (mandatory) under Mosaic law in the bible. However, only items of the land - produce and livestock were accepted as tithable items. There's no such thing as a tithe on earned monetary wages although there's ample evidence money was used in those times. One also has to consider that the Levitical Priesthood only received 1% of the tithe. they received that from the Levites who actually received 10% of the items of the land from the Israelites who were farmers and livestock producers within the Holy land.
Old testament laws have been fulfilled by Christ in the Christian faith. Even if we were still under the law, we wouldn't be able to tithe money as there is nowhere in the bible where tithing law was amended to include money. So tithing isn't giving. It was a mandatory tax but didn't involve money.
No we are free to give as our convictions lead, money or otherwise, not under compulsion as some would have us believe.
It shouldn’t be mandatory, as some pastors make us think so.
This should be freeing you up to give what you can until your debt is paid you are still supposed to pay the people you owe money to before you really have any money to give
He did not answer the question. Giving and tithings are two different things. His answer was a tiptoe.
the missing piece here is PASTORS are NOT PRIESTS. WE ARE..... GOD expects us to help others in need among us. we aren't giving to the organization called church but loving people we are in relationship with including our pastor. DONT GIVE TO ANYTHING YOU DONT LOVE, IT PROFITS NOTHING.
so... let's put away the law... but reach back and retrieve it when we want to guilt believers into giving money
So...we aren't under the law but yet we are expected to adhere to an OT law for giving...
Yeah....makes sense.
Exactly
Be generous and be joyful. 100% true. 👍
Amen
I grew up being taught that tithing was just as important now as in the Old Testament, because Jesus mentioned it during His ministry. For the past few years, I've done it because I didn't want to be a thief regarding what God has blessed me with...but I haven't really asked Him about the specifics, either. I do believe that if you attend a specific church regularly, member or not, you should contribute to that church as a gesture of respect...both toward God and those who lead that church. I donate to mission work as well, but that's a personal choice because I want to help those with little or even nothing. I do believe the desire to bless the needy comes from God, especially when it has nothing to do with fueling our own ego. A lot of philanthropists do the same thing, because they prefer showing kindness away from the spotlight of criticism.
Moses worked and supported herself even though they offered him things
Read Deuteronomy 14:22-26
Christianity are not under any obligation to pay tithe
Giving him is not starting at a church!! Your own family.. yes give to the church! But more importantly to those in need!!
I love how they say, " you don't have to tithe, but, you should probably give more than that."...So in other words, They continue to make you feel guilty if you dont tithe, and they continue to pressure you into giving more than 10%.
mathew mann Nah, YOU feel guilty. I don't believe the tithe is relevant to Christians, but I DO believe my giving should exceed the so called 10% I used to call a tithe. If you used to tithe a tenth, but now realize it's not biblical anymore, why give less than the tenth now that you know you should give freely?? Most people who argue against the tithe don't do so because the scripture says it was only for Israel, but they argue it because they don't want to give much of anything anyway.
Tithing was never earned income. 😀
Read the heart of God on giving from 2nd Corinthians 9;6-15. You telling someone how much they should give and then shaming if they don't give at least 10% is in direct contrast to what God is saying in this passage. @@AyoBaby Also, who should I give my money too? 2nd Corinthians 9:9????
@@AyoBaby tithing was more than 10% if you add up the tithes. And it was not money, but food i.e, livestock and produce. The local church isn't a storehouse and the pastor in not a Levitical priest. The church isn't the Temple. Please keep in mind a tithe and giving are not the same. People use them interchangeably, huge error. Giving is a gift. Tithing is a tax, involuntary.
The thing I don't understand is practically every southern Baptist preacher will say in practically every sermon pertaining to giving that Jesus commands us to give 10 percent of our gross income to the church. When searching for that in the biblical texts I have never seen anything to substantiate that claim
From the book of New Testament on Matthew 5:17 Jesus said: " Don't misunderstand why I have come - it isn't to cancel the laws of Moses and the warnings of the prophets.No,I came to fulfill them,and make them all come true.
It's very clear that tithing is under the law of Moses but it was instructed by God.for from the book of Exodus 22: 29 God said to Moses " You must be prompt in giving me the tithe of your crops and your wine,and the redemption payment for your oldest son. Also from the book of Malachi 3: 8-10 God said" 8 You have robbed me of the tithes and offerings due to me.9 And so the awesome curse of God is cursing you for your whole nation hs been robbing me.10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse so that there will be food enough in my temple: if you do,I will open up the windows of heaven for you and pour out blessing so great you won't have room enough to take it in! And Jesus also said from the book of Luke 20:25 He said, "Then give the emperor all that is his- and give to God all that is His.
I think it's very clear that even Jesus commanded us to give what belongs to God -the tithes because He knows the Churches needs it for the expenses of the churches,for church mission to bring the gospel to every place..if we don't give our tithes, how can we support what the churches needs? Our Pastors just reminded us of giving our tithes but not commanded us to give our tithes.it is our own free will to give it. And it's our own guilty conscience To Our Almighty God if we don't give it because He commanded us to give it through Moses.
Usually it takes a person to lose their house or their car or something that they own that they pay for in order for them to understand to stop giving their money to these preachers. I hope people wake up before they lose everything they have including their marriage because a lot of marriages end due to financial situations of you and your wife being broke and poor and your spouse can't take it anymore so they leave you.
There is not one passage of Scripture telling any Jew or Christian to give 10% of their money to a religious institution. Second, while tithing is biblical it is not Christian. This was strictly a practice for the nation of Israel under the Old Covenant which has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ in the New Covenant.
Jesus said giving to believers Was GIVING TO HIM. remember Matthew 25:40. You wont hear that in church, they want you to give it to the church treasury. Not the members!
Definitely real truth on the subject of the tithe. This is the greatest breakdown that I have yet to hear concerning the matter. I feel even more compelled to give as God prospers me. It is a part of my journey in faith and my relationship with Yahweh to be able to give more for advancing the work of the Kingdom of God, not just give to pay the bills of the "church".
James Harris
Yea Brother thts.good 4 you.
But wht about the widows, orphans an the poor..should this be a law 4 them as well.??? I see as anybody got it give it bit those tht.live in poverty let them be a cheerfulgiving .to each it's own.
Many preachers use Malachi 3:8-10, which makes a similar promise: “Will a man ROB GOD? ... In TITHES AND OFFERINGS.
BUT we must go back in the Torah, to find where the LAW is that discusses this matter. In Numbers 18:19-24, it states: “And the LORD YHVH spake unto Aaron, Thou shalt have no INHERITANCE in their land, neither shalt thou have any part among them: I am thy part and thine inheritance among the children of Israel. And, behold, I have given (to) THE CHILDREN OF LEVI all THE TENTH (TITHE) in Israel FOR AN INHERITANCE, FOR THEIR SERVICE (THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD service), even THE SERVICE OF THE TABERNACLE of the congregation.... But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD YHVH, I have given TO THE LEVITES to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.”
Deuteronomy 18:1-5 reiterates this command: “The PRIESTS the LEVITES, and all the TRIBE OF LEVI, shall have no part nor INHERITANCE with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the LORD YHVH made by fire, and his inheritance. Therefore shall they have no inheritance among their brethren: the LORD YHVH is their inheritance, as He hath said unto them. And this shall be THE PRIEST'S DUE FROM THE PEOPLE, from them that offer a sacrifice, whether it be ox or sheep; and THEY SHALL GIVE IT UNTO THE PRIEST the shoulder, and the two cheeks, and the maw. The FIRSTFRUIT also of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the first of the fleece of thy sheep, shalt thou give him. For the LORD YHVH thy God hath chosen him out of all thy tribes, to stand to minister in the name of the LORD YHVH, him and his sons for ever....”
So, does this really apply today? The Temple was destroyed in AD 70, and Yeshua is now our High Priest, this having no need of the Levitical Priesthood. Besides, the true believers in Messiah are to be the holy temple of God, (1 Corinthians 3:16-17 & 6:19) just as Yeshua referred to His body as the temple. (John 2:19-21) The Renewed Testament reconfirms that it was the Levites who were commanded to take tithes from their brethren, “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5)
Paul confessed: “I ROBBED other churches, taking wages of them, TO DO YOU SERVICE.” Now his reward is: “In order that, when I preach the gospel, I may set forth the gospel of Messiah WITHOUT CHARGE OR COST, SO THAT I DON'T ABUSE MY POWER OF AUTHORITY OR INFLUENCE in proclaiming the gospel.” (2 Corinthians 11:8 & 1 Corinthians 9:18)
I love your teaching. You are as a father among believers and I am very blessed to have your channel as a resource in my life. I love how dedicated you are to using scripture in your answers to questions and how you reveal the gospel in all of questions you answer.
Thank you for these videos! they are all very edifying. Grace and peace from God to you!
Thanks @Miguel - we're glad you find them helpful!
Very well said , the principle of giving , The tithe was a law given to the Israelites , not the gentiles nations , so is not direct commandment or law or even a revelation in the new testament about tithe in the form of money and that is passed to the gentiles , that change to money , not only those changes , Numbers 18 explain about 10% to the Levites that in turn separate 1/10 of that tight to the priesthood , that means 1% , often called the tight of the tight , many didn't tight in Israel because even if they work the fields , land , produce , animals they just receive a salary , the produce or animals didn't belong to them and salary , is the equivalent today to money and money was never use for tithe , however the principle of the tithe o do is a good principle as expressed in the interview it turn in to negative consequences since many only go about to comply to that doctrine of man never expressed in the bible to tithe in money, and would have continue in offerings cheerfully , as proposed in the heart , according to how has been prosper as it was done in the early church , as the interviewed said today people give about 2 or 3% but worst yet is a letter given to the Nation of Israel Malachi 3 in which people are condemned , coursed accused of been a thief when that letter was never to gentiles nations and much less about money, that is wrong , very wrong , and on top the Roman Catholic doctrine to have excomúlgate the Christians for not giving a monetary tithe not found in the whole bible causes the person to be falling in to a guilt state that ends departing from the church and we know that back slider will get seven spirits that are worse than the one originally cast out of that person and then this person may become irresponsible at work , at family , may lose the job and therefore in most cases that marriage and on top of the those that tried to force that monetary tithe on that person see all destroy in the street and said , see that happens to him because didn't tithe and if that person now got the knowledge that is not such a thing of monetary tithe in the bible and reply that claim ,the response is But you are not congregating , that is the cherry on the top of irony , the same people that force him out with all the human doctrine of monetary tithe are now accusing the person of not assisting church , so if you consider those situations that are occurring on the daily bases then o do the principle of tithe is good the application has caused more harm than good , so if the churches have stay in the principle yes written in the bible about giving cheerfully and all the was mention in the interview ,as the church did in the beginning many would not have back slide because that none biblical monetary tithe despite how good the principle is and many of those may have died separate from the Lord all for that good principle that have been turned in to a course , for some reason God in his wisdom never inspired a prophet or apostle to introduce a change to a tithe from food to money and from only Israel to gentiles , from only those that own that produce and animals to now every one , from 1% the priesthood ...Numbers 18 ...receive from the Levites to the whole 10% just because is called the tithe of the tithe and is use as if it means 10% when is actually 1%, and pastors claim is all for them , that has nothign and is no were near what the tithe was for in the first place.
In order to show the gratitude towards God, Every Christian should give tithe.
1. We support to spreading gospel. 2. We feed the family who feeds us in spiritually. Not only that
3. We will get blessings more and more...
Going from the story of the widow's mite it seems everyone has something God would like to see them give. He truly seems to love cheerful giving.
The church I go to does not go around with a bag to collect tithes but our pastor makes mention that most give on line or else their is a donation box at the front of the church. First church that I’ve been to that does not go on about tithe. It’s so liberating and I’m a joyful giver to my church community. Praise God for this wonderful teaching on tithing.
They probably have more money coming in than when they hammer them, with fear mongering and threats of being cursed and be accused of robbing God if they don't bring their tithe to the storehouse they claim is the church
He basically tried to get people to give more and do a type of tithing by saying your should give weekly as the false bibles say. The modern false bibles say give each/every week. That verse isn't about weekly giving at all. That was Paul passing through and collecting for the saints who needed help so he was telling the church he was visiting to have whatever they were giving ready so that he didn't have to worry about when he got there. Satan is really sneaky. Go and compare the KJV To the modern versions and you will see the slight of hand. Real lies, real fast.
Hi @bible4truth - did you get a chance to watch the video? What verse did you feel was used incorrectly? Also, here is an article on the King James Version of the Bible that you may find helpful. bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
Who said the KJV is correct ??? Because it uses words like THOU ???
Look at this guys recommendation of bibles and you will see he is trying to get you to NOT read the KJV. Why are american's so gullible? Seriously? How can you be such a sucker? Are you a berean?
about those bible versions:
Yeah...And the SEED in every beleiver is JESUS CHRIST (Luke 8:11; John 1:1, Gal 2:16). That is why Paul says in Gal 2:20 KJV it is no longer I that live, but **CHRIST that liveth IN ME**. Where is Christ? IN ME.
So...here is my question for you:
Is CHRIST in you?
If so, does Christ IN YOU sin?
Answer should be: NO
But do you sin in the flesh?
Answer should be: Yes, (if we say we have no sin, we lie)
So, how is it that 1 John 3:9 in the modern versions say Christ (the SEED) in you sins at all?
Your FLESH isn't born again. It is the Spirit of God that is the inner man and that CANNOT sin. And, there is only ONE SPIRIT in all saints, who are all sinners still according to the flesh, yet sinless according to the spirit. Or are you saying Jesus is corruptible seed?
Also. Notice the NASB error
Perversions...
English Standard Version
No one born of God **makes a practice of sinning**, for **God’s seed abides in him**, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.
New American Standard Bible
No one who is born of God **practices sin**, because **His seed abides in him**; and **he cannot sin** (oops!), because he is born of God. (the forgot to change it--oops!...they fully perverted it in the ESV, which has been since revised)
CORRECT - MATCHES PAUL (in my flesh dwelth no good thing)
King James Bible
Whosoever is **born of God doth not commit sin**; for **his seed remaineth in him**: and **he cannot sin**, because he is born of God.
Here is the verse used incorrectly. And, surely you don't agree because you don't recommend a KJV bible. And I see why...
Paul wasn't coming through every/each week. There was a dearth and Paul was simply facilitating the collection for the saints as he was passing through and wanted them to have their collection ready. It wasn't a weekly/each week thing at all.
FUTURE TENSE AND ONGOING
English Standard Version
On the first day of **every week**, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as **he may prosper**, so that there will be no collecting when I come.
New American Standard Bible
On the first day of **every week** each one of you is to put aside and save, as he **may prosper**, so that no collections be made when I come.
BASED ON DEARTH, SIMPLY FACILITATING HELPING CHRISTIANS AS PAUL PASSED THRU...THIS ISN'T A WEEKLY THING. THAT IS COMPULSION, THAT IS TRYING TO ESTABLISH A REPETITIVE GIVING OF $$$. And, weeky at that.
King James Bible
Upon the first day of **the week** let every one of you lay by him in store, as God **hath prospered him**, that there be no gatherings when I come.
bring your liberality...Satan is tricky.
Three simple questions: 1. Can it be given to any organization? 2. Can I give for some time and stop tithing for some time and continue again? 3. Does it have to absolutely be 10% or can it be less or more? Please tell me the answers. Thank you
This is the best Biblical response i've heard. I learned later in the Bible that the tithe wasnt a New Testament commandment. Are we giving because we love God? Its not really about the amount but how you're using what God gave you out of your love for him. Have to be honest with yourself when you ask that question.
What people need to hear is who is the tithing goes to. The reason God started tithing is welfare to the poor people. The tithe is not for church or pastors. Please educate people on that. The pastors are fed enough. Jesus said that we should give to the poor. Even, in the old testament, one tenth of the tithe for the Levite and the rest to the poor. Nehemiah 10:38. When next you want to talk about tithe, educate the people about it. In the Bible, Jesus fed 5000 people. Nowadays, 5000 people are feeding the pastor. The pastors will use the money to build more churches and even more tithes would come in. Then it's time to start buying jets. Yet, many are poor in the church.
Foluso Joseph Those kind of pastors are wolves in disguise
What do you drive, are you on an expense account, do you have a jet, do you fly first class, do you get a bonus?Tell the truth🙏🏻
Wasn't Paul taking up a special collection for the poor in Israel when he asked them to put aside something every Sunday? This was not a commandment for everyone to give each and every Sunday. Correct me if I'm wrong. God bless.
They still want to push it somewhat even though they are not saying it. When they had a garden in Israel they left the corners of the field for the poor so they could have something to eat. 😊
I can't afford to not tithe; God has blessed me so abundantly.
Yes you can afford not to tithe but give whatever you want when you use the word tithe you infer a forced command which is not in play now
The new testament principle is very straight as Paul said,' Those who give generously will be blessed generously and those who give less generously will be BLESS less.' Many people do not believe that even though pauls says it,' FOR GOD LOVE A CHEERFUL GIVER.' However, when it comes to money it become the matter of heart and many says Paul was not talking to them ha ha ha. When you touch someone pocket you are touching his heart.
Oliver C
Paul saying give generously for those who can.you can't pay your way into Heaven .!! Then on the flip side be a Cheerful Giver .🤣🤣
If you noticed what Paul didn't talk about was any set amount. Nothing to guilt trip you to outdo the jews who gave up to 23 percent
@@michaelmerck7576 Give generousley is not a small amount is it?? And less generousely is not a big amount is it? The Jews only gave those if they were land owners not everyone and they also got it back every three years. But in this case paul is telling everyone not just land owners. Because it is a matter of faith. Once I worked for BBC as an Engineer and I thank God and gave all the month money while I was earning 1700 pounds per week not month and I gave it all for one month, the amount Paul is asking for is much bigger than 23 percent but like the old testament you will get it back from the Lord because he says he will bless you generously. And most people fail to do this, othere are seeking God for everything and causes themselves mental problems where God says those who are sklled will not serve before an inferior person.
I think that Jesus' disciples are supposed to give to human need. As regards tithing, the mainstay of the tithe was to go to Levites and 1/10 of that to the High Priest. Today we know Jesus is the High Priest and we are a nation of priests (according to Peter)...….so IF tithing was in effect then we would just give it to ourselves right? Under the Law Covenant, tithing was not a "make up your own rules" thing. It was the LAW of tithing and had to be done according to the Law dictates. There's no way that is in effect now under the New Covenant which is a new Age. (Unless it's manipulated)
When you take into account taxes to the government, we do pay a lot to help the government. Israel was a nation when tithes were like our taxes!
Well taxes always feels like it takes most of my paycheck so it's hard to give more than 10%.
give accordingly. Pastor john mcarthur and john piper has simple message about tithing... i am not for this message of this pastor
What is the difference between giving and tithing? Aren't they both GIVING? If tithe is forbidden wouldn't have Jesus forbid tithe in the N.T?
Now why giving offerings when both offering and tithe were commanded by God in the O.T?
I believe both tithing and offering fall under Giving. I don't know why people argue over something that keeps the place of worship and the Pastor in charge maintained.
The error is to put pressure on people in order to give. Giving needs to be taught properly.
In my opinion there's a common misconception that tithing is a form of giving. Giving can only be done as an act of free will. Tithing was compulsory (mandatory) under Mosaic law. Abraham's tithe may have been customary and in that sense, compulsory, although there's no biblical evidence that it was ordered by God. Also, nowhere was money accepted as a tithe in the bible. However, money was accepted as an offering and in the temple tax. The tithe under Mosaic law was specifically received as items from the increase of the land (produce and livestock). Giving is unlimited in scope, type, frequency or amount. We are free to give, not bound to pay.
The difference between tithing and giving is that tithing under Mosaic Law was limited to within the Holy Land, could only be given to a Levite (with the exception of a poor tithe and the tithe for the festival), was a compulsory (mandatory) ordinance under the law, was limited in the amount and the contents could only be items of the land - food and livestock.
Giving (or offerings) can involve money, items or time, is unlimited in scope and size, can be given to anyone anywhere.
It was not mentioned in the new testament because the tithing was for the levites and Jesus fulfilled the law and no need to bring back the fulfilled law in the new covenant
Tithing was not as much giving as obedience to a law.tithe was never was money
This is a good, responsible explanation on giving according to New Testament principles... Thank you.
loved this so much!!! RTRQ always seems to enlighten me, and open my eyes in some way. love my church!
Thanks @erinn - we're glad you find the video helpful!
We should give our tithe. It's a must and not an option. Pls don't misunderstand that, it's a covenant between you and God.
A tith was only to the levits, a ten of the tith went to Gods house. Nehemiah 10 v 37. Read your bible
Respectfully Brother, and with love I encourage you to go back and keep reading… the Tithe was also for the widow, stranger in your gates(see Deuteronomy14 for example), and orphans, Primarily the Feast days, and in Leviticus it says if you are unable to make the journey to the Feast you use the tithe for yourself, but go even further back and we see Abraham giving a tithe to Melchizedek in Genesis 14. This is before there were Levites. God’s Commandments for Tithing were Not “only for the Levites”. Hope these extra verses and info is a blessing and taken with no offense, as none is intended.
God Bless!!
@@Shield_Labs I never said no to those things either, you need to go back and read my text. The point of the text was to show tithing was not for ministers in God's house, they got a tenth of a tith, 1%. Read your bible and read my text
beautiful principle! what you have said is a gift.
i hope you give more than the tithes. i can only give tithes and i pray i learn to give more.
Get that tithe word out of your mindset .give any amount you want when you want to give it
Tithe(10%) in the OT is talked about in different places. For example Lev 27:30-34 talks about a holy tithe which is given to the levites entirely. However, Deuteronomy 14:22-29 talks about a different 10% that is eaten in a feast by the owner and those who are less privileged-levites,stranger,orphans and widows within your gates. God reserves a 10% for himself that he supports the ministry of levites. He also expected the people to share with the less privileged. The Lord also asked for freewill offerings from the people as we see in Exodus 35:4-19. The OT and NT are not in disagreement on the subject of the sacred 10% and offerings.
The only thing I can say is that no matter what you do for God as long it’s a good thing then it’s a good thing. The only biblical obligation that exists is to love each other as selves. The benefit of tithing is that God will also keep his paybacks on time
Biblical tithing wasn't really giving, it was a compulsory ordinance under Mosaic law, a tax really that was specifically (and only) composed of produce and livestock. Giving is the essence of Christianity but we are free to give, not bound to pay.
We don't have to tithe, we get to tithe. In the scriptures, tithing is a
means of honoring God(Prov 3:9). Abraham honored God by tithing before
the Law was even given(Heb 7:1-2). Abel brought an offering to God long
before the Law was given(Gen 4:4). By tithing, we acknowledge God as our
source, so that even though we have 10% less, we know He will bless the
remaining 90% so that our purchasing power is greater than if we had
kept the 100%. I've tithed from the time I became a Christian up until
this day, which is many, many years. Through life's ups and downs God
has never failed to honor that commitment with special provision.
Blessings in terms of health, promotion at work and most importantly
being used in part time ministry. Tithing just works. It works because
it requires faith to do it and faith pleases God(Heb 11:6). Sometimes I
even do special exploits in faith, where I will quadruple tithe(40%). I
do it anonymously. The blessings that follow are thrilling. It seems the
greater the step of faith, the greater the blessing. So to me, it's
just silly to quibble over a tithe when it can so enhance your walk with
the Lord!
You aren't even allowed to tithe of income of money
The Biblical Truth Of Giving
(2 Corinthians 9: 7) Each of YOU should give what YOU have DECIDED in your heart to give, not RELUCTANTLY or under COMPULSION, for God loves a CHEERFUL GIVER.]
Paul says each of you should decide in your heart what you will give = In other words NO one should determine how much money you give other than YOU…
Secondly, When we give we shouldn’t give RELUCTANTLY = If you are feeling reluctant about giving, you should examine (in prayer and with careful thought) why you feel this way. That way when you give your money you can give with the right spirit. After all God loves a Cheerful Giver.
Finally Paul says that we shouldn't give under COMPULSION= In other words we shouldn't be giving because somebody is mandating and pressuring us and coercing us into giving a certain amount. Whatever we give it should be given with the right attitude because God is looking more at YOUR ATTITUDE THAN THE AMOUNT THAT YOU GIVE..
#TruthTime
God gave everything for me. He saved me! The least I can do is give him back part of what he allows me to earn and my time so that it can be used to serve others and get the message of the Gospel to them.
It's like any human relationship. When you're in love with that person you shower them with gifts. You don't care how much something costs, you just care about expressing your love for that person. Why shouldn't we give even more to God, the one who gave us life and loves us more than we can imagine, more than any other human has?
giving to church yes I do but don't lie to me and tell me I will be cursed, I'm a robber and give the devil permission to give me sickness and financial problems if I don't tithe because sweetie I'm still having financial problems and I know Jesus died I won't ever get sick or go hungry. I don't depend on tithe. I just give a tithe or offering or more if I can. forcing of the tithe and putting fear in Christians that they will be cursed really ticks me off. do pastor really need million dollars homes, car, jets or can they live humble like Jesus. it makes Christians look bad like that Joel olsteen rejected those hurricane victims outside his church. he wasn't going to support them so he lied saying his church was flooded. with all these million you would think they had a building for emergency like that. so are we really giving to God or the pastors pockets? then again not all pastor are this way. I know a catholic priest who raised money for his church to build a new building and lives in a little modest home driving a modest car. while my Christian pastor lives in a huge home and drives Mercedes. not all are going to live humble lives. they love that money when its in there hands. May God forgive me but its true.
The truth of that is that Jesus doesn't expect or demand that you try to match what is free gift of salvation with man's attempt to buy his way to paradise.Jesus would much rather you take that money and tend to his sheep and care for others
Because you can never even come close by giving money when Jesus is primarily concerned with your heart.your idea would be like throwing money at Jesus so you won't have to take time to get to know him
Do Not give before you pay your Bills, that would be poor stewardship. If you give money that you owe, you aren't giving your money but someone else's. So tithing is not a new testament command that's true, but saying you need to give before being responsible with your money is stupid and will lead to problems. Not very wise . God wants you to be free not in debt.
He Lives
Funny he says this when Christian principal are what America claims to live by. Yet they take from our money before we get to even spend it. have we forgotten fica, SSI, Medicare that's all goes to the poor and disabled, elderly right. Then we turn around and go to the church and give it again, if it was biblical I would but it's a contradiction. Ijs
I think your time is more important! Cooking, cleaning, painting, (church maintenance.)
Yes we have a rich church in the west,rich pastors too, certainly compared to a generation ago.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is as true of the church as it is of the world-rich west,while many millions of Christians in poor countries lack physically and spiritually,how can this be.
Give where the needs are greatest for the gospel,this will give great enthusiasm to your giving,be led by vision for God's kingdom.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also
My situation is very difficult. I long in my heart to give financially to my Church, however my husband is a non-believer and has asked me to stop giving due to our changes in finance during COVID. I still desire to give and I do in many other ways, but feel conflicted in regards to giving money...I do not want to go against my husbands request. Does anyone have advice in regards to this please!? 🙏🏼 Blessings from Australia!
Blessing fellow believers in lifestyle is just as important as giving financially, having someone over for a meal or spending time over a cup of coffee and lending an ear to someone in need is a wonderful thing to do. God sees the heart not just the $$.
Fellow Aussie
@@jakekOK thank you so much for this encouragement brother 🙏🏼
Now it’s called Gov. Tax
How about a teaching on what the money should be used for... These guys are quick to talk about giving but you'll never hear them talk about biblical spending... The reality is none of these "pastors" is given the right to use money for anything... The hunger for money seems to run all the way to church leadership...
They call it stewardship when they want us to be thrifty and frugal,don't pay a trash bill ,take it to the dump yourself,don't eat out,things like that
"2% of Christians give a tithe or more."
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The question "Are NT Christians supposed to tithe" misses the crux of the issue. The issue is why are Christians today, living in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, with some of the best creature comforts and prosperity available, still behaving like we have no other option but to be stingy and then using the lack of a biblical mandate as a way to ease our guilty conscience?
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God is our love, our life, our all! But when it's time to give, and we'll pay for house, cars, food, vacation, Christmas gifts, kids' 3-4 extracurricular activities and all the equipment and fees that go with it, 200-channels of cable, Netflix, unlimited data plan, etc....then might have $5 left to toss in the collection for God's kingdom.
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THAT'S the problem God's church faces today, not the question of whether tithing is mandated.
Real Truth. Real Quick They are many ministers that say if you dont give money you wont make it to heaven.
But why is giving to God always equated to giving to the church ? Is the church God ?
The tight or the giving does not belong to the pastor, it belongs to the poor, the widow, the lost, the orphan etc.
There is giving in the church, but the Christian is called to go and preach the gospel with Holy Spirit fruit, giving, preaching and miracles(not forcing God, but aawaiting His will in everything)
If you just sit in church meetings without movement towards the needy and lost, you will start to glorify messages and gifts of the pastor and start to give more in church then what you were called to do.
God is a Holy God do not expect Him to make you rich in this world, expect Him to make you holy.
Holiness is the highest attribute of the being of God, this is why the angels shout holy, holy in Heaven.
Holy is also the Name God. This is why the Spirit in the old testament has been renamed as the Holy Spirit in the New testament.
This is because the Holy Spirit can live in men and make him holy. In the old testament the Spirit of God just rested for a while for a specific purpose on the man or prophet of God.
Holy Spirit is the Life of God given to man as a gift. Holy Spirit is not a title, but caries the Highest attribute of God's being, His holiness.
Do not get lost in this self gospel of prosperity that is all about me and my life here on earth, but let God be God and though His Holy will do to you as He please while He perfect His working in you. It's all about God Himself, not you and what you want.
Eternal life in John 17 is that we May know the Father and His Son Jesus Christ that He has sent.
He came for the poor and commanded later do not gather riches here on earth where thiefs can brake in etc, but gather for you riches in heaven.
This is the krucks of heavenly mindednes for the child of God.
Do not beg with your giving to God, do not feel entitled before He decides what's good for you.
Focus on winning souls, fruit of the Spirit, giving with joy without expecting anything in return to allow God to have his will what's good for you.
Investing in eternal things is giving to PEOPLE who are in genuine need, NOT in support of dead buildings, parking lots, lighting, chandeliers, carpeting, etc. It was ALWAYS about needy people and the actual priests of God, NOT to the modern clergy class as a man-made profession. Can anyone show me one example where the OT law required to hand over one red cent to the Levites? I have read where ranchers and farmers with producing lands, flocks and herds were required to hand over a tenth of the INCREASE from those producing realms, NOT monetary wages earned from labor. This guy is another false teacher. He added "wealth" in what he said as to what is to be handed over as "giving". The Law makes NO use of that term in relation to money, especially monetary WAGES from labor. This guys is just another false teacher among so many.
I'm always satisfied with your answer. thank you
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The tithe was for the nation of Israel. We (The body of Christ) are now under the new covenant. We are no longer under the law. We are now under grace. Under the law they were required to give by necessity, but in 2 Corinthians chapter 9 we are instructed to give non grudgingly for God loves a cheerful giver. Think about it. You cannot do both of these at the same time. You can either give by necessity or purpose giving in your heart and be a cheerful giver. Its either be required to give a tenth of every dollar or give as you purpose. The law is of necessity, but grace allows you to decide for yourself. Additionally, the biblical tithe had nothing to do with money. They were required to tithe off their livestock, produce, and crops. They never used money to tithe. The tithe was for those who worked their land so many were excluded from the tithe like fishermen. No land, no livestock, no vineyard, meant no tithe. The homeless and the widows were not required to tithe either. But tell a prosperity preacher that and he will tell you that they are robbing God! The tithe applied to farmers and herdsmen. Unfortunately, the prosperity gospel preached today failed to rightly divide the word of truth as in the bible we have law giving instructions and grace giving instructions. We the new Body of Christ are under grace giving instructions. Romans 6 :14 says we are not under the law, we are under grace. And if the prosperity gospel preachers teach that we are required to tithe then they must also teach not to leave your residence on the sabbath, or remove all the leaven from your homes on passover eve, or 3 times per year all men must visit the holy land. etc etc... But no they will say that was for Israel. Bingo! Exactly! If you are teaching that we are under the law, you cannot pick and choose which laws you want to follow and not follow.
TITHING PART 2
As I looked at this New church generation, tears(blood) tickle down my chin(holy). Looking at this New generation preachers, I discovered they are given to knowledge (filthy) and not WISDOM(refined). Looking at the men of God in this new church generation, I discovered they are using knowledge (filthy) to explain my word(holy) rather than wisdom(refined). Yes, a man may want to go for knowledge (excessive) and at the end, he will see himself becoming an ATHEIST. Pastors are not excluded. Are you not supposed to be teaching your sheep(members) to appear before me in holiness (Deuteronomy 22:5, Jeremiah 4:30, 1 Corinthians 11:6) and not argue if tithing is right or not. Now, Mr Preacher I have somewhat against thee. Thou hast used your excessive knowledge (filthy) to CONFUSE humanity although to those my spirit (holy) are in them, they cannot be confused. Now talking about TITHE, it is a great MYSTERY but will be exposed for man to know and learn. A man went to work and came with a thousand naira and the Pastor told him to bring a tenth for his tithing. Looking at the pastor, I discovered he has not paid his own one- tenth. Foolish Pastor! How could you tell your sheep to bring one-tenth when you have not brought yours. Now Pastors are likened to TAX COLLECTOR(A book written by the author - search books by Anthony Ebubechukwu Orji on Amazon)). What is the meaning of that? What is the meaning of that? Yes, tax in a country is used to renovate, repair and provide essential services for the people likewise in my body(churches), these taxes(tithes) are used to RENOVATE the house(churches). Now, a tax-tithe collector (Pastor) was also told to bring his tithe(tax) but he secretly IGNORED seeing he is the one that collects the tithes and no one will know if he pays his or not. Foolish Pastor! Are you aware you are dealing with Spirit of Spirit(God) and not man. Looking at the Pastor, I discovered he has a stain on his pocket(spiritually). Writing the word(pocket-spiritually), a man given to knowledge (filthy) quickly asked if the garment of salvation which a man receives when he gives his life to God do have pockets. Foolish man! Why using your carnal knowledge for things of Spirit. Looking at the Pastor(thief), I discovered he was called a THEIF by God and a ROBBER by the devil. But why? But why? Yes, a man that God has blessed and refuses to bring a tenth unto God and not the Pastor, Bishop, Left and Right Reverend is a THIEF before God and a ROBBER before the devil. Yes, this is what it means. A man was looking for work and God in his infinite MERCY sent his angels (GOOD and MERCY) and immediately the man got the work. Now that man will be too foolish not to bring a tenth before God at the end of the month. What should the money be used for? Yes, as a tax in a country is used for essential services(road repairs, other important facilities etc), so is the tithe(tax) used by the worker(Pastor, Bishop, Apostle, Evangelist) to do the work of God. What kind of work? Yes, a church that was build 15years ago needs to be repainted. A church that does not have instruments need complete sets of musical instruments, a church that was using wooden chairs before needs a modern plastic chairs, a church that does not have sound systems, need a modern and workable one. Ones in a year, churches need to do HARVEST, which is one of the reason of tithing. Sunday shlchool manuals which the members are using need to be published using that tithe, Christian magazine(Evangelism) also need to be produced for man(sinners) to read and get CONVERTED so that their will be MEAT(CONVERTS) in the store house(church and paradise ). Now, a church that pay their tithe and the PASTOR(THIEF) still put burden on them to CONTRIBUTE (evil of evil) in one way or the other inside my body(churches) is a very, very big thief. Burden(contribution) should not be placed on the members to CONTRIBUTE (evil of evil) inside the church. The tithe gotten from the members should be used for that purpose. Yes, a MAN(Apostle, Bishop, Pope, Right Reverend, Left Reverend, Church members , Deacon, Deaconness, Choir Master, ect that does not pay his TITHE is a REBEL to God and to man. Why? Why? Yes, God is Spirit and those that will worship him MUST worship him in spirit and in truth. How can a man eat all and expect the devil to SPARE him. Infact the devil will MAJESTICALLY walk up to God and seek PERMISSION ( most atimes it is granted) to CHASTISE such a man. Now talking about a man that God called to open JUST A SINGLE MINISTRY and due to greed, he decides to go into BUSINESS by opening churches here and there on earth. This is the wisdom for them:
Church 1: gets her tithe and send a tenth of the total tithe to the head quarters. Now the head quarter will collect all these tithes from all her branches. It is called TITHE of TITHE. What the head quarter does with the tithe is this, if there is any of it's branches that are having very, very few members, it means that what they will accumulate will be less and hence they need to do HARVEST and as such the head quarters will send either a tenth to that church or a part for them to do HARVEST. Now if a man(Angel, Pastor, Bishop, Apostle, Deacon, Pope etc) stands on the pulpit and tell HUMANITY not to pay TITHE, such a man(Bishop, Teacher, Apostle, Evangelist, Right and Left Reverend etc) SHOULD BE ACCURSED BY THE BRETHREN. IT IS FINISHED! IT IS FINISHED!
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How you spend your money paints a true picture of your heart. If you ever claim to love God with all your heart mind soul and strength then this should be reflected in your giving.
I find disagreement with that statement. I pay household expenses, maintain a vehicle of which I use for my work and buy groceries and sometimes have to grab a sandwich somewhere when I travel so I don't think I am extravagant in any way but you couldn't see my expenses and tell anything about me other than I try to be sensible in all I do
Again there you go stirring up guilt on people if they aren't giving all their money to the church
I don't like to tithe anymore because I've seen what the money is actually spent on- the expensive tv for the pastor's home, the mercedes car for the church secretary, the never ending starbucks account for the youth pastor. one year of me giving humbly out of my heart every single paycheck with money I have because of my college degree went to paying for the pastor's home tv. It's supposed to compensate them for their services but I feel used. I tithe thinking it's going to the rent of the church building and the church bulletins but I've seen what most of it goes to and it's to pay the staff generous salaries so they can buy nice things. it's like the churches don't take the money seriously and squander it and make a fool out of those that give it
@Rahul Gautam, well this is why conversion is being do one so that the pastors can make money,have you tithe?
Its where your treasure is, your heart will be also. He said it wrong. This is very important because your heart wants to be bad. If our treasure is where our heart is, we are in big trouble!!
Do Christians believe that it is God’s will to tithe the things that are Caesar’s unto God? ---> “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are Gods.” < Mathew 22:21, Mark 12:17, and Luke 20:25.
He says "if you were an Old Testament Jew you didn't just give one tenth. you gave...." How would he account for the fact Jesus born under Jewish law did not give 10% as tithe yet fulfilled the law 100% or else he could not be our Passover lamb without sin? What about his Apostles who could not tithe under the law not having produce of the field or flocks to tithe? Some were Fishermen and fish obviously did not qualify under tithing law. Just imagine the stink at the Temple if fish storehouse in the vicinity of the grain one!
*Give offering , Give more than 10% and help to Kingdom of God . Give by believing in scripture Luke 6:38 " Give and you will be given " ..... you will see a real quick Financial help from God . Sow a seed and you will see the crops of Blessings*
You are saying you are not under law, but you hold on to old testament tithe, That is real contradiction.. Why do you not go and get gold from fishes mouths,
You are issuing temple tax and claiming it as tithe,
Matthew 17:27
But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."
you can give what u want and think what u want or do what u want thats it!but the question is ,is that what God wants us to do?H e said give 10% not 23% not 20% but 10% from ur income ,gross or net...and now u are in the new covenant and the old covenant is gone?thats ur point...No tithing according to Paul not from God Himself...choose who u want to obey...if u love Him just follow dont complain or argue...
But there is this whole thing...that you sow to get...then you tell God to pay you back...you reap. It is like a casino....
In bible it don’t say to give money. Giving can be anything like food, water, clothes, money, your time, etc. People think giving is just money but it isn’t. Let God lead you what to do, don’t follow after man.
Man this is blessful
There is a difference between tithing and giving, or offering.
Malachi 3:8 ESV says: "Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you
say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions."
God would not have said this if that 10 percent (tithe) did not belong to
Him. He is telling us that it is not ours. He would never accuse us of stealing (rob) had it belonged to us. So, since the 10 percent belongs to God, we are not giving anything when we tithe but are simply putting God's portion where He wants it to go. Holding on to it would be holding on to what is not ours, thus truly robbing its rightful owner, God.
Today, the question is whether God is still laying claim to that 10 percent. If the bible says that He is not then we do not have to tithe. But if it does not say, then we must. Some say He is not, since we are no longer under Law... "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." That is Romans 10:4 ESV / 8. But then in Matthew 5:17-18 ESV / 3, Jesus says: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."
Additionally, the present situation is that church members are perceiving that tithes are not being destined to what God has instructed. Many Church leaders, on the other hand are saying that it is the duty of the congregation to tithe and not watch what is being done with it, since that is God's business. Even those who preaches that we are no longer under law insists on keeping this one law. What a predicament! What I can say is that the solution is there in the bible.
In the meantime, we can always offer what is ours, and we should. After all, 2 Corinthians 9:6-15 ESV / 29 says: "The point is this: (...) Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."
I agree with your conclusion, that we should give in accordance with what is in our hearts. Amen. I might add that there's strong evidence that the book of Malachi was specifically directed at the Levitical Priesthood. As such it didn't even apply to all of Israel and doesn't apply to us today.
@@markb7067 What other provisions then did our God make for taking care of the widows and orphans? May you please enlighten us as to biblical reference of such?
@@CG-cx9fv I believe that we (God people) are responsible for the provision for taking care of the widows and orphans. It is our responsibility and privilege to give to support those in need as we are able and lead. However, there is no biblical mandate for giving money to any religious institution or any curse for not doing so.
TITHE BY A HOUSE WIFE- PATR 3
A house wife is supposed to pay tithe not COMPULSORILY through MONEY but through her act(HOLY). Yes, a house wife is not just a woman that is married into the house and stays at home but a woman that is married into the house and does a job seemingly for a woman to do. Now, a woman who works for example in the bank cannot take her money and pay TITHE without her husband's approval and a woman who pays tithe without her husband's approval has done that in the FLESH and not by the SPIRIT(Holiest). Now a woman is tied to the LAW of her husband provided she is married to a man and the man is still ALIVE. But immediately the man dies, she is FREE from the LAW of her husband and she is now tied to the LAW of either God or the devil depending on whether she is holy or not. If she is holy, she is tied to the law of God but if she is unholy, she is tied to the LAW of the devil. Now concerning a woman paying TITHE, it shall be explained in PLAIN LANGUAGE for humanity to LEARN and also know that a being(Holy) is writing through man(writer). Now, a woman that the husband is ALIVE and gives her MONEY and mentions what she is to do with the money, if the woman fails to CARRY out such a TASK(whether holy or not), she has SINNED AGAINST God. This exclude a woman going to buy evil inside the house. Now, a woman whom her husband tells to use money for certain things in the HOUSE and the woman decides to REMOVE one-tenth when her husband has not given her permission to use the money for TITHE, has done that in the FLESH and not in the SPIRIT. But if the man later finds out and decides to FORGIVE her, her SINS will truly be FORGIVEN her. It is a STOLEN MONEY before God and that money can never, never be accepted before the MOST HOLY GOD. It is finished! It is finished!
It doesn't mean we shouldn't receive, because said he would supply our needs also. Jesus said so.
God don't need your money. Love is the answer. Tithing is the old covenant not today.
if we give don't we store up treasures in Heaven according to Matthew 6:19
I appreciate you not teaching that Tithe is money. Awesome teaching! Thx