He’s not being thrown to the wolves after a single preseason game. Hes being tossed aside for showing very little growth in 3 years in the league. Major difference.
CAP 🤡 Trey was drafted with the idea of "grooming" for the future so year 1 he was benched because Kyle was sucking Jimmy G up until he realized Jimmy was a joke. Year #2 injured Year #3 Tossed under the bus 🚌 despite putting up better numbers than Darnold in less time.
Word everyone acts like we has this guy bench warming. He gets his snaps in practice like everyone else and has his opportunity to shine but never did. He's a concept draft, a guy with very little experience but knows football and has all the physicality but none of the IT factor. Happens every year with players, I have no idea why they're so laser focused on San Fran
Trey is in year three. Should have stayed in college. He lacks experience and confidence. Just because you have the outside traits doesn’t mean you are good. Slow processing, mechanics and accuracy issues. They brought in Sam for a reason. Big scout failure. Trey looks petrified and overwhelmed.
Totally agree with your assessment of him. However, why should he have stayed in college? He was drafted 3rd overall, thoroughly vindicating his decision.
@@greggnelson9334 His on-field performance is proof that not only did Trey make a bad decision about hitting the draft market early, but also about the front office's decision to take him @ #3.
@@chrisscott8604he would have been exposed another year in college and would have lost draft status. So for him personally he did the right thing for the pay day. He’s a bust and he knows he’s a bust.
@@greggnelson9334 Well, if the point was to just get drafted, yeah, he made the right decision. But if the point was to have a successful long-term career and get the big bag contract extension as a starter, it was the worst decision of his life to come out early. Sure, if he stayed in college, it could have ended in catastrophe, but that probably wouldn't have happened. I think Trey would have benefited from hitting the transfer portal and playing at a bigger school against better competition for a couple of years before declaring for the draft. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
@@stephenatencio2398 yeah man, but there are some athletes out there looking to do more than score 1 pay day. Look at Justin Herbert. Signed a deal 10X bigger than his original contract. Stop thinking small, my guy.
He looked absolutely terrified out there. I can't help but think he should've transferred to major program after his freshman year. I wish him the best, but I don't see it with the niners.
The sad part is that he is a great team player, teammate. He has handled EVERYTHING very respectfully, professionally, maturely, taken responsibility for his mistakes, and has been the best team player on the sidelines. You don’t always see backup qbs or injured players so engrossed in the games and celebrating with his team’s players on all sides of the ball like he has. I mean, he is the one that went and retrieved Purdy’s first td ball after it was thrown wherever during the celebration. He went on his own, off camera.
I can't help but feel bad for him as a person. But this league is a ruthless business at the end of the day. You perform or it chews you up immediately.
I don’t watch that show since Wiley left, but Acho was on point with his assessment. Also had to laugh at Shady because he’s right about Lances running
@@BrocktaviusKingofNFC When Cowherd does it its becasue of his daugher , now its becuase of dudes hygine. Clowns around here dont know anything about football , just a bunch of over emotional fan boys.
Man, I feel bad about his situation. Drafted above where he should have been, all that expectation... At this point, the best thing that could happen to Trey is to get on a team that isn't making a run for a SB. I guess it is a good reminder that a couple additional years of college would have helped prepare him for the league.
couldn't agree more.. He was put in a position he never was qualified for. As a niners fan, I was shocked and appalled on that draft day. The niners organization could not have seen enough say he was that good. With COVID, impacting sports leading up to that draft.
I agree. It be best for both parties to part ways. I don’t think he fits Shanahan’s offense. He might be better off with offense like the Bears or Giants
@@John-tc7yp yeah man, but there are some athletes out there looking to do more than score 1 pay day. Look at Justin Herbert. Signed a deal 10X bigger than his original contract. Stop thinking small, my guy.
The Niners drafted him because he looks like Patrick Mahomes. Just because he looks like Mahomes doesn't mean he can play like him. I knew he was going to be a bust!
The sad part is that Lance would have still been available for the 49ers with their no. 12 pick. Mac Jones didn't even go until no. 15. And they would have had those other two first round and one third round picks. Think what they could have done with all that wasted draft capital. Very poor judgement by Lynch and Shanahan..
The 49ers made Trey a multimillionaire -- stop feeling sorry for him, I think he will land on his feet whether he is a good NFL qb or not. People are so dramatic.
I watched it yesterday and they were 100% on point. You can't argue with that. 3rd year in the league and can't recognize a Cover 2 look in your pre-snap read? That is why he holds the ball for over 3.3" and kills the play. Whether you like it or not, all signs point to a bust. You can't just blame it on not having playing time because like any back-up QBs, you are supposed to learn as a scout team QB.
Stfu, it’s 1 preseason game, he’s coming back from a injury, if piggyback pick Purdy would’ve played terrible you’d be making a billion excuses for him so stop hatin GOT DAMN
I been saying this exact same thing since we drafted him. I just don’t see what it is that he does well. He’s not hyper athletic, he’s not that fast, he’s not that elusive, he doesn’t run it that well, he’s not a natural thrower, requires perfect mechanics to throw well, doesn’t throw well off platform. Even if he one day becomes an actual NFL QB with hard work, effort, time and playing time, he’ll never be the hyper athletic, Mahomes/Allen dual threat QB that was advertised. Good thing we lucked out on Purdy cus if Not we would have lost a great coach over this pick.
What they said is true for the most part. His accuracy has objectively improved, but he is still struggling with the basics. No pre-snap reads is asking for disaster outside of a hurry up offense. Slow progression reads, linked to no pre-snap reads. Late delivery to receivers through their route.
Some commentators seem to be saying that Lance was the victim of a conspiracy and would not get a chance to play. The fact is that he was over-evaluated from day one. .
Here's the thing, if someone were to watch this preseason game, in no particular order just the gameplay itself, and no knowledge of external context, you would say that based on Lance's performance, he likely wouldn't make the roster. The only reason this is not the case is because everyone knows how high Lance was drafted and what the Niners gave up for him, so they keep trying to cling onto any threat of hope or promise, giving him every excuse in the book. But just use your eyes, the guy is the 3rd best qb on the team, without question. It shouldnt matter that he cost us alot, hes just not good and he is not worth keeping. McCoy hit the nail on the head, he has no business in the league right now, i dont know how much more evident it can be.
I actually agree with them a little. Trey’s ability as a dual threat was way overstated. He has average speed for a QB. I think his film popped because he was going against Division II opponents. Trey has above average arm strength but isn’t accurate. If he can learn defenses and improve his accuracy, he might be able to stay in the NFL. I’m skeptical and I think it’s more likely he’s out of the league after 4/5 years. He’ll get a camp invite after the niners let him go but I don’t think he makes another roster. This is a colossal fail by Lynch but his job might be saved due to the brilliance of Shanahan and the out of nowhere emergence of Purdy.
Average speed for a QB? Lance ran a 4.92 40 yards dash. Purdy ran 4.84, but his 10 yard split is 1.55, which puts him in the 90th percentile. Arm strength is another metric that is way overblown. Bill Walsh said that accuracy, touch, and decision making were more important. Purdy has higher velocity on his throws than either Brees or Lamar Jackson. Also, 86% of all NFL throws are within 20 yards and Purdy set an NFL record for completion percentage on intermediate throws, defined as 11-20 yards.
Brad, I think the criticism isn’t based just on Sunday’s game. Even to most of us fans is obvious that he’s not close to being were he needs to be. A good throw here and there during practice is not the same as a game where you have a real pass rush. 49ers made a mistake to trade up not knowing which QB they were going to pick.
Processing, recognizing, and accuracy are more important than throwing a long pass. And his running ability is not as good as advertised. Below average speed and doesn’t have pocket awareness
@@apolloorosco6852 I agree. Kaep was a really good QB, but I don’t think he was fully committed to football towards the end of his career. Which unfortunately was too early in his career. KL and JL had to move on and change the culture in the locker room. I’d do the same
The real problem is analyst and scouts before the drafts. They are now looking for “freak athletes” without taking into consideration they level of talent they played against or the people they had around them. That’s why everyone who wasn’t an ISU fan was shocked about Purdys play last year.
I think they are not the only ones, all of the 49era players know that. That's why they couldn't contain their emotions when Lance got injured last season and Garoppolo came in, they weren't happy that Lance got injured, just happy he wasn't on the field anymore. It was obvious by the 49ers players reaction that they knew Lance had no business being on the field. They have seen a lot of him and they know he is no good. Anyone who has seen Lance play and really understands football and is willing to give an honest opinion of him should know that by now. Will he become good one day? It's possible, but I think it's highly unlikely.
Instead of unloading on Lance, you should be asking the question who is the dumbass who confused this kid for a top flight QB and traded the farm for him. Lance didn't choose to be drafted #3
Agreed. I think the coaching staff was concerned going into pre-season LAST year with Trey Lance that he wasn't picking up on the fundamentals of QB'ing in this league, which is why they brought back Jimmy G after they basically did everything to show him the door in the offseason. The coaching staff and the organization was walking the tight rope of having committed to TL to be the starter going into the season, but I think in reality he was on a very short leash with Jimmy G as the backup. Their saving grace was that TL got hurt early into the 2nd game of the season, which took the decision making out of their hand. And from that point, they knew the TL experiment was over. Going into this season, they brought in Sam Darnold to be the #1 backup and insurance for Purdy. He was NOT brought in to compete with TL. I believe they had already made the decision to move off of TL, tried offload him before the draft, and then kept him through pre-season and gave him reps to increase his value as much as possible before they traded him.
@@adidasut11 if what you are saying is true, they are even bigger fool than I thought. You just name Lance Qb1 if you have no faith in him just to save face. What if he does not get hurt but holds the team back? And how signing darnold and staging a competition increase his trade value? Who these fools want to fool? When you give up on a player you traded 3 first round after just 4 games, there are too many question marks. It smells too fishy.
Trey gotta put his big boy pants on and go out there and make plays. Just like Josh Allen said in his commercial for Trey when he was drafted. Bruh just get out there and make plays!
@@Kolohe56the same bum who said Bosa wasn't better than Parson because he doesn't run down players 10 yards down the field? 😂 y'all goofy if u even consider that dude a analyst
This happens every damn year. Some team overreaches and overpays for a QB in round 1, then the player gets blamed when it doesn't pan out. Trey Lance didn't trade up to take Trey Lance. Right now he couldn't start in the XFL.
They only think he was looking at the out route, when it looked like he was faking the throw to the out so he could hit the hole. However before he could even throw he took a sack. That won't happen with a 1st team OL. This guy has thrown barely 100 passes in the NFL.. what he is or isn't has yet to been seen. Take the pressure off him and let him chill with a team and build up and we could see a very different player in the future. I think the 49ers ruined his chances with them with how he was managed with his first year and injury. No one can see the future but that's not how you handle a 1st round QB. Maybe its just me that sees it this way.. I imagine him being good for another team that works with him.
Personally, I agree. Everything they said is what I've been saying since his draft night. It's not fully his fault, but why in the [censored per RUclips] would you take a QB 3rd overall with very little experience and put him on a "win now" team? I wanted Mac Jones (or at least Fields since he played for a good school and had experience), his play style would've been great for us, this is why when I saw how Purdy played against the Packers in preseason, he instantly became my favorite QB. Smart, accurate, poised, pocket/mobile when needed to be qbs that look to throw to any of our elite recivers, and that can read defenses is what this team needed. But everyone had to have a Running QB so badly, everyone had to bring race into this discussion as if skin color makes you any more or less of a player. Just to clearify things before everyone starts with the name-calling, i dont want Trey to fail, I want all of the Niners QBs to play well and stay healthy. Yes, Purdy is my favorite and I want to see him continue to be our starter and franchise QB, but I still want Trey to show us SOMETHING. I don't THINK he will, I'm praying im wrong and I get called out for my takes. However, realistically I just don't see any change. It's Trey's 3rd year and we still haven't seen much improvement, and that experience needed to be developed in college or on another team that is in rebuild mode rn, not when we're soo damn close to the main prize.
@1who4me Shanahan picked Lance. There was an interview with Lynch about it. You should look it up. It almost seemed like Shanahan had more power than Lynch and I think he still does. I say that because when the team was about to hire Shanahan as the hc, they didn't have a gm yet. According to Lynch, he, for the lack of a better word, volunteered for the position and to work hand in hand with Shanahan. This was due to the previous hc and gm circus show. I'm sure you remember that.
Was rooting for Trey, but this is so sloppy all around. O line was terrible, but he held the ball too long. All that talk about him improving his mechanics and the ball is still wobbly.
Trey Lance was still falling asleep on the job on game day last week. He was not mentally and physically ready on game day. I can see the shadow of Giovanni Carmazzi following Trey Lance wherever he goes on football field. We would like to give him another chance in the next game before we put one more nail in the coffin of his NFL career. I just can't wait to see his performance against the Broncos on this Saturday afternoon at Levi's Stadium.
They are elite veterans. Who know the X’s and O’s of the game. Just because their takes don’t align with 49er RUclips “analysts” reporting from their basements doesn’t mean they are wrong or being mean. It means you should probably change who you’re getting your info from.
Harsh but thats life. When i watched on sunday i thought we were going to see what ive been hearing content creators say when attending practice, "he looks improved." I didnt see that sunday. This is why i ran with jimmy. He won games. I dont want Ls to let trey learn how to be an nfl qb. Its WAY more enjoyable as a fan to see my team actually in the hunt for a sb...even though some fans will say with brock it will never happen. I think it will happen with brock and that it will NEVER happen with trey. Trey might be out of the league next season.
Oh it was most definitely people in his ear talking it up. But yes, he should've stayed in school to better his NFL career, cause his inexperience is showing big time.
@@Kolohe56He was selected third overall, which completely justifies his decision. And, frankly, another year in college wouldn't have made much of a difference in his game. Because it would not have greatly improved the aspects of his game in which he is deficient: processing quickly, pocket presence, anticipation, quick release, accuracy, etc. These are not things that come naturally to him, as they do to Purdy or Aidan O'Connell, for example, and I doubt he'll ever be able to overcome them sufficiently to be a starter in this league.
@@greggnelson9334Assuming he didn't blow all of his money. Most bad 1st round picks go broke after leaving the NFL. Too much partying and too much waisted spending.
@@tikka300wsm5what games are you basing this on? Chicago in a monsoon without Kittle and rushing more than RB1. Or 2nd game getting hurt first quarter.. 3rd year. More like 2nd missing all last year but 5 quarters. It's cause he is colored.
@@MindTrain17 Fields played in that same weather.... and the team wasn't good enough to bear the worst team in the nfl because kittle wasn't playing?!?!?! Stop it...
@@tikka300wsm5yeah and Fields had worse stats but y'all don't bring it up cuz he won not thanks to anything he did but because our coach choked and the team constantly hurt themselves with dumb penalties and blown coverage
Kaep was way better than Lance, but to be fair, I don’t believe Greg Romans offense was more difficult than Kyles. Doesn’t excuse not being able to read the D though
I don’t understand why they made TL QB 1 over Jimmy G and why they kept him around after he lost to the 3 - 14 bears. Last year. I would’ve kept Jimmy and dropped Trey.
They low key kinda right tho. The man has had the playbook for 3 years now. Youre fully healthy and you’re starting in a preseason game where you should be dominating against second and third stringers. I agree if the NFL had a G league that is where he should be right now, until he proves otherwise.
Trey was running a offence that was made for a drop back passer ,, Trey was never that .. plus he knews the o-line is very weak,, I like to see any other those people out there talking back about his play that game. step out and try to do it you self with the same offence ,, give him the true test,, with all starters like how Brook with get ... then and then you see where he at ... until then ... SHUT THE HELL UP HATERS !!!!
Good idea. The would be cool if the NFL could affiliate with the XFL or USFL or both for a G-League type system. But with the nature of Football with the injuries, the money invested in the players, and the Player's Union I don't think it can ever happen sadly. Cuz a guy Lance could really use the reps at a lower, slower level.
3rd year quarterback and still can’t read a NFL defense is a major red flag 🚩. Makes me wonder how much film Trey Lance actually studies and how dedicated he actually is. You can say “He needs more reps, he sat out a couple of seasons” well by saying that you’re basically admitting Trey Lance entered the draft, took the money and ran with it. Red flags everywhere 🚩 🚩🚩. He looks good throwing practice balls and hitting the weights. Trey Lance may be the biggest QB bust since Jamarcus Russell, as a 49ers fan I really hope that’s not the case. If you ask me, Trey Lance is now competing against Sam Darnold for QB2, QB1 is out of the picture.
Niners should cut lance, at this point they are just letting him get bullied every week. I feel like lance is the nerdy kid everyone picks on in high school, just let the dude move to a different team where he can actually have a chance. This is just mean.
Never has a young player gotten written off faster after a handful of starts and preseason games. Can’t use the race card because Trey gets hates from everyone. The kid has got hurt twice which has severely slowed his development. I still feel Treys story is far from finished but man people are burying him.
The NFL is writing the script for Trey, he's done with this team. He'll go to the vikings home town kidding coming back home to lead the vikings and they'll have the 49ers vs vikings in the playoffs. Trey gets revenge on the team that tried to ruin his career. The 49ers are going to go after kirk cousins next year because Purdy isn't it.
The AZ Cardinals moved off of Josh Rosen after ONE YEAR! The 49ers coaches have seen more than enough in practice and games to know that they have with Trey. Problem is that he's still owed $19 million in guaranteed money over the next two years. Even if they trade Lance, the 49ers will still take a $5.4 million dead cap hit for the next to years, but save close to $8 million.
Every QB in the NFL wants to be in the 49ers (especially rookie QBs) as they know they can go to the NEXT LEVEL. Trey Lance is lucky to be in the 49ers but he is NOT READY for the NFL
This is missed by a lot of ppl, it’s a huge indictment on Trey regardless of what anybody says.. and anybody who would want Trey over Shanahan is out of their minds
@@ev-x29284I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you have no reason to believe he's going to be better. He's demonstrated that he doesn't belong at this level.
Shanahan hasn’t developed a single quarterback while here in San Francisco, Purdy was all luck and had 4 years I. College. Shanahan is an offensive genius but he’s nowhere near a quarterback whisperer and it hurts to say because I’m a huge 49er fan
Well keep crying cuz you guys all sound goofy when you say stuff like that not every quarterback is going to pan out and trade-lance might not have panned out whether Kyle was a quarterback of whisper or not. It's not like all these quarterback whispers get people to do stuff all the time
I have to disagree on not being a QB Whisperer as several QBs had their best years under him and without him they weren't as great. Part of the issue is he is the head coach at SF which means someone else needs to spend more time with the QB. But I also think he got the best out of Jimmy and probably will do the same with Purdy. I do not think Trey has the head or talent for the Pro game. He can take partial blame for drafting Trey but I think he really wanted Mac according to some reports. Also, Jimmy was not his choice.
How was Purdy doing what he did last year luck? He showed he had elite IQ as a rookie, underrated athleticism, and his confidence is thru the roof. Not an ideal qb but he gives us the best chance to win right now and he looked really good doing it.
@@juiceman8990 Purdy runs a faster 40 yard dash than Lance, his 10 yard split time of 1.55 seconds puts him in the 90th percentile, and his ball velocity is faster than Drew Brees and Lamar Jackson. Purdy has more than enough athletic ability to play QB in the NFL.
I would have to agree. I don’t think he belongs in the NFL!! he has shown he is not prepared or ready!!! Zero awareness!! Cannot read a defense whatsoever!!! And too much hesitation!!!! All I can say at this point is I’m glad we let him go!! have fun with him Dallas😂
Blame 49ers GM for wasting so many number 1 picks on a guy who never played against competition. If Trey were a second round gamble based on his physical skills.... maybe that would have made sense. The team that could have drafted Patrick Mahomes (and several other top QBs after that) went CRAZY for an unproven QB. 😂
The 49'ers set the record of how not to draft a quarter back. The old saying goes stats don't lie. Trey did not have enough snaps at the college level to be a 1st round qb pick !
Dude Trey Lance didn’t play in a big conference. I’m a big Niner fan and have been disappointed every time he had a start at QB1. Just feel it was such a waste giving up all those picks in a big draft year.
I agree with the “put him in the G league” approach. In Euro soccer they do this thing called “loaning” players and basically a large club with give a player to a smaller club in a worse league so that player can get real game time. I wish the 9ers could send Trey to the cfl or XFL for a bit and then bring him back.
I never understood this draft pick from day one. I saw a long arm motion and a propensity to pull the ball down and run before the play develops. Major flaws
@@ytyahudah5046, yes that’s a rookie record that still stands today. Trey Lance was not given a fair shot, he was not given enough reps to improve as a young player.
Some players learn from experience. Just like some people learn from life experiences. Lance has never had a chance to get in-game experience. In his first season, he didn't play because Jimmy G was in there. 2nd season, it was an injury.
3rd year and he has not changed at all and I never believed he should be qb1…never…if I could share screenshots of messages between my son and I over the years I could prove this. I also thought the game was too fast for Trey and he will almost always opt to keep the ball and get sacked, try to run it, or pass the ball too late. ALSO, I would be able to prove that I believed Purdy was going to be what he was last year and when Jimmy G went down(even though I was sad) I was not worried about the rest of the season. This season though, I have question marks only because you can never know how a player will react after getter injured.
@@jonnyvelocityat some point you have to recognize that's on him. NFL coaches get paid to put the best team on the field. Nobody is invested in watching a team tank a season just to see if maybe, possibly, perhaps, one day one player finally clicks and puts it all together. This isn't YAFL, and Shanahan isn't Lance's daddy-coach.
Being very hard on him I like Trey Lance he seems to be a likable person but I don't think he's confident right now but I hope he can prove people wrong right now he's too hesitant to let it loose don't see the running ability being used not even trying it but don't know but I truly wish him the best
He's a bust and that's not the worst part. Brock was last picked and plays like a QB1, which is lucky and great for the niners. The worst part is they don't know how to draft a proper QB.
Where are Trey Fanboys now. The coaching staff has never been in on him nor his teammates. The analysists don't like his game and former players even think he doesn't belong in the NFL. It's kinda obvious imo the whole drafting of Trey was wrong. The one thing he was supposed to have even isn't there. Where is the speed. Brock is quicker avoiding the rush. The Niners are gonna get nothing for him so just cut him and take the hit. I would rather have Allen as QB 3. Trey fanboys it's time to put those jerseys in the closet. It's over.
I don’t blame Lance for not being good. He reminds me of Deshon Kizer. Kizer received all this hype of being a top 5 pick and after watching him struggle in his final year at Notre Dame, he ended up being a second round pick and didn’t pan out. Lance couldn’t dominate Missouri Valley defenses. Aside from from his no interceptions, his numbers were pretty mediocre. Lance should have been a 3rd round pick. Teams haven’t learned anything from history and continue to take these overhyped QB’s with their top 5 picks, which hasn’t produced much stardom in recent years. Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold or Marcus Mariota. The top 5 picks have produced way more busts at the QB position than success, but teams continue to do it and this is what happens. Drafting a 5’8 QB first overall is never a good idea, yet the Cardinals did it and now in hindsight, it shouldn’t happen again. Then Carolina does it just a few years later with Young, who is 5’9. Running QB’s don’t win. Didn’t work with Newton, Vick, Mariota, Vince Young, Tebow or Kaepernick. Yet people continue to draft them early and often.
They aren't wrong sadly. It's not Treys fault either. Its crazy to think that the 49ers literally got rid of Jimmy G for a project QB with 3 1sts. At this time Brock Purdy was also a unknown. I was pissed at this whole extravaganza they did whilst the majority of the fan base was manipulated by 49er youtubers convincing them that Jimmy G is crap, Trey is wayyy better & will be the king of the NFC. BRUH!
All this falls on Trey's shoulder. He has not improved from season 1. The way he played against the Raiders was awful. He needs to be on the Falcons or similar team. He's not ready for the bright lights.
Their is definitely some truth to what these guys are saying and it sucks cause I really felt like trey would be him idk I just feel bad for the guy honestly.
I was pissed when SF gave so much away for a guy who played only about 1 season in college and drafted him #3 overall. I was them pissed that they traded him to Dallas. WTF!!
The thing I appreciate is that they're telling the truth, unbiased and brutal. What breaks my heart is if any of them were white, the "media" would be calling these statements "raysis" and would coddle Lance, perpetuating the problems and issues. QB is hard and GOOD passing is quick thinking, understanding what you're LOOKING at. People think this 'dual threat' QB/retardo rugby is the "evolution" of the game when it's the OPPOSITE. It's how the NFL was before the forward pass, is DEVOLVING, dumbing down and it erodes the team concept, starving RB's and WR's of valuable roles.
The injury was extremely unfortunate but he just doesn't have enough playing experience even going back to college. He'd have a great future in the XFL.
Acho sounding like he should be on the view or some day time soap opera 😅 too much drama for week 1 preseason. Use the negative Trey, Time to ball out !!!
He’s not being thrown to the wolves after a single preseason game. Hes being tossed aside for showing very little growth in 3 years in the league. Major difference.
Carson Wentz was the same way . Same school .. they boost him up in the draft ..NINERS got reeled in ..
CAP 🤡
Trey was drafted with the idea of "grooming" for the future so year 1 he was benched because Kyle was sucking Jimmy G up until he realized Jimmy was a joke.
Year #2 injured
Year #3 Tossed under the bus 🚌 despite putting up better numbers than Darnold in less time.
Word everyone acts like we has this guy bench warming. He gets his snaps in practice like everyone else and has his opportunity to shine but never did. He's a concept draft, a guy with very little experience but knows football and has all the physicality but none of the IT factor. Happens every year with players, I have no idea why they're so laser focused on San Fran
@@StreetDisciple86 I'm 100% certain there was NEVER a 2nd string QB battle between Lance & Darnold.
@jonathandutra4831 yeah I think you're right about that.
Trey is in year three. Should have stayed in college. He lacks experience and confidence. Just because you have the outside traits doesn’t mean you are good. Slow processing, mechanics and accuracy issues. They brought in Sam for a reason. Big scout failure. Trey looks petrified and overwhelmed.
Totally agree with your assessment of him. However, why should he have stayed in college? He was drafted 3rd overall, thoroughly vindicating his decision.
@@greggnelson9334 His on-field performance is proof that not only did Trey make a bad decision about hitting the draft market early, but also about the front office's decision to take him @ #3.
@@chrisscott8604he would have been exposed another year in college and would have lost draft status. So for him personally he did the right thing for the pay day. He’s a bust and he knows he’s a bust.
@@greggnelson9334 Well, if the point was to just get drafted, yeah, he made the right decision. But if the point was to have a successful long-term career and get the big bag contract extension as a starter, it was the worst decision of his life to come out early. Sure, if he stayed in college, it could have ended in catastrophe, but that probably wouldn't have happened. I think Trey would have benefited from hitting the transfer portal and playing at a bigger school against better competition for a couple of years before declaring for the draft. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
@@stephenatencio2398 yeah man, but there are some athletes out there looking to do more than score 1 pay day. Look at Justin Herbert. Signed a deal 10X bigger than his original contract. Stop thinking small, my guy.
3 first round picks and $27.8 million *POOF* gone. Unbelievable.
Close your eyes and pretend we gave that for Brock Purdy….takes away some of the pain 😅
He looked absolutely terrified out there. I can't help but think he should've transferred to major program after his freshman year. I wish him the best, but I don't see it with the niners.
The sad part is that he is a great team player, teammate. He has handled EVERYTHING very respectfully, professionally, maturely, taken responsibility for his mistakes, and has been the best team player on the sidelines. You don’t always see backup qbs or injured players so engrossed in the games and celebrating with his team’s players on all sides of the ball like he has. I mean, he is the one that went and retrieved Purdy’s first td ball after it was thrown wherever during the celebration. He went on his own, off camera.
I can't help but feel bad for him as a person. But this league is a ruthless business at the end of the day. You perform or it chews you up immediately.
I don’t watch that show since Wiley left, but Acho was on point with his assessment. Also had to laugh at Shady because he’s right about Lances running
Acho spends more time hating on trey than hygiene
The show is garbage without Wiley and Jason. Shady and Joy are worse than Trey's field vision.
The thing that makes it too real is that I find that joy will never bad mouth a young AA QB. So for her to do it, she’s on to something.
@@royvalenzuela1662 lol. yeah thats it . Jouy said so. what about everyone else that said this from the begining ?
@@BrocktaviusKingofNFC When Cowherd does it its becasue of his daugher , now its becuase of dudes hygine. Clowns around here dont know anything about football , just a bunch of over emotional fan boys.
Man, I feel bad about his situation. Drafted above where he should have been, all that expectation... At this point, the best thing that could happen to Trey is to get on a team that isn't making a run for a SB. I guess it is a good reminder that a couple additional years of college would have helped prepare him for the league.
couldn't agree more.. He was put in a position he never was qualified for. As a niners fan, I was shocked and appalled on that draft day. The niners organization could not have seen enough say he was that good. With COVID, impacting sports leading up to that draft.
Trey has close to 40m sign-on bonus. No need to feel bad for him
I agree. It be best for both parties to part ways.
I don’t think he fits Shanahan’s offense. He might be better off with offense like the Bears or Giants
@@John-tc7yp yeah man, but there are some athletes out there looking to do more than score 1 pay day. Look at Justin Herbert. Signed a deal 10X bigger than his original contract. Stop thinking small, my guy.
Bro, look-a-here..... McDonalds is hiring right now as we speak. No experience necessary.
They are not destroying him, they are telling the truth. Playing with his eyes closed. That bad
He mix white and black he confuse
The Niners drafted him because he looks like Patrick Mahomes. Just because he looks like Mahomes doesn't mean he can play like him. I knew he was going to be a bust!
The sad part is that Lance would have still been available for the 49ers with their no. 12 pick. Mac Jones didn't even go until no. 15. And they would have had those other two first round and one third round picks. Think what they could have done with all that wasted draft capital. Very poor judgement by Lynch and Shanahan..
Thank you someone that finally golfing Coach and GM accountable
Who was selfish enough to advise him to declare ? He absolutely should habe returned to school.
The 49ers made Trey a multimillionaire -- stop feeling sorry for him, I think he will land on his feet whether he is a good NFL qb or not. People are so dramatic.
It’s not a conversation about money
I watched it yesterday and they were 100% on point. You can't argue with that. 3rd year in the league and can't recognize a Cover 2 look in your pre-snap read? That is why he holds the ball for over 3.3" and kills the play. Whether you like it or not, all signs point to a bust. You can't just blame it on not having playing time because like any back-up QBs, you are supposed to learn as a scout team QB.
Stfu, it’s 1 preseason game, he’s coming back from a injury, if piggyback pick Purdy would’ve played terrible you’d be making a billion excuses for him so stop hatin GOT DAMN
I been saying this exact same thing since we drafted him. I just don’t see what it is that he does well. He’s not hyper athletic, he’s not that fast, he’s not that elusive, he doesn’t run it that well, he’s not a natural thrower, requires perfect mechanics to throw well, doesn’t throw well off platform. Even if he one day becomes an actual NFL QB with hard work, effort, time and playing time, he’ll never be the hyper athletic, Mahomes/Allen dual threat QB that was advertised.
Good thing we lucked out on Purdy cus if Not we would have lost a great coach over this pick.
At the most, he'll become Geno Smith but with worse mechanics.
And you were called all kinds of horrible things for just broadcasting what you were seeing, same as me. Those people should be ashamed of themselves.
They always seem to save their asses by striking gold on late-round picks.
What they said is true for the most part. His accuracy has objectively improved, but he is still struggling with the basics. No pre-snap reads is asking for disaster outside of a hurry up offense. Slow progression reads, linked to no pre-snap reads. Late delivery to receivers through their route.
Did guys like marino were good at pre snap reads
@@jmgonzales7701 Are you trying to compare Lance to Marino?
no@@ShiggyMiyamo
Some commentators seem to be saying that Lance was the victim of a conspiracy and would not get a chance to play. The fact is that he was over-evaluated from day one. .
Here's the thing, if someone were to watch this preseason game, in no particular order just the gameplay itself, and no knowledge of external context, you would say that based on Lance's performance, he likely wouldn't make the roster. The only reason this is not the case is because everyone knows how high Lance was drafted and what the Niners gave up for him, so they keep trying to cling onto any threat of hope or promise, giving him every excuse in the book. But just use your eyes, the guy is the 3rd best qb on the team, without question. It shouldnt matter that he cost us alot, hes just not good and he is not worth keeping. McCoy hit the nail on the head, he has no business in the league right now, i dont know how much more evident it can be.
4th best, he’s not better then Allen
I actually agree with them a little. Trey’s ability as a dual threat was way overstated. He has average speed for a QB. I think his film popped because he was going against Division II opponents. Trey has above average arm strength but isn’t accurate. If he can learn defenses and improve his accuracy, he might be able to stay in the NFL. I’m skeptical and I think it’s more likely he’s out of the league after 4/5 years. He’ll get a camp invite after the niners let him go but I don’t think he makes another roster. This is a colossal fail by Lynch but his job might be saved due to the brilliance of Shanahan and the out of nowhere emergence of Purdy.
Is his arm strength above average though? It looks really average to me.
Average speed for a QB? Lance ran a 4.92 40 yards dash. Purdy ran 4.84, but his 10 yard split is 1.55, which puts him in the 90th percentile. Arm strength is another metric that is way overblown. Bill Walsh said that accuracy, touch, and decision making were more important. Purdy has higher velocity on his throws than either Brees or Lamar Jackson. Also, 86% of all NFL throws are within 20 yards and Purdy set an NFL record for completion percentage on intermediate throws, defined as 11-20 yards.
@@brettwheeler7753reality sure is a pain in the ass for some people.
Nice post.
@@brettwheeler7753I thought Lance's 40 yard was around 4.6. Damn.
More like three years and he's gone...
They ain’t wrong. He has showed nothing. Purdy has done more in less time.
That just doesn’t make sense if trey has less stars in his career than purdy had in 1 season
@@larrysain2827just about to say that
Brad, I think the criticism isn’t based just on Sunday’s game. Even to most of us fans is obvious that he’s not close to being were he needs to be. A good throw here and there during practice is not the same as a game where you have a real pass rush.
49ers made a mistake to trade up not knowing which QB they were going to pick.
Processing, recognizing, and accuracy are more important than throwing a long pass.
And his running ability is not as good as advertised. Below average speed and doesn’t have pocket awareness
Truly they wanted Mac jones and then media and probably inside influences told them Lance. They listened. It is what it is.
Kap was a better QB and KS & JL got rid of him as soon as they got to SF. Then they draft another type of QB just like him but only worse.
@@apolloorosco6852 I agree. Kaep was a really good QB, but I don’t think he was fully committed to football towards the end of his career. Which unfortunately was too early in his career. KL and JL had to move on and change the culture in the locker room. I’d do the same
@@Cosmo0114 yeah I understood that move but not the Lance move. But oh well that’s the way it goes sometimes.
Great take from Hall of fame group of guys….OPPS 🤣🤣
I think Trey needs a fresh new start with a different organization.
He’s a bust and the league knows it. Thats why we can’t trade him.
Looks like the Cowboys got a firsthand look and saw what everyone else saw
8 months late, but thank God for Jerry Jones lol@@stephenatencio2398
The real problem is analyst and scouts before the drafts. They are now looking for “freak athletes” without taking into consideration they level of talent they played against or the people they had around them. That’s why everyone who wasn’t an ISU fan was shocked about Purdys play last year.
Trey you gotta do something because the league is no longer waiting for you.
give lance a couple more years to learn and he could become a starting qb. he hasn't played much football...
I think they are not the only ones, all of the 49era players know that. That's why they couldn't contain their emotions when Lance got injured last season and Garoppolo came in, they weren't happy that Lance got injured, just happy he wasn't on the field anymore. It was obvious by the 49ers players reaction that they knew Lance had no business being on the field. They have seen a lot of him and they know he is no good. Anyone who has seen Lance play and really understands football and is willing to give an honest opinion of him should know that by now. Will he become good one day? It's possible, but I think it's highly unlikely.
Bro that’s exactly what I noticed as soon as he went down it was obvious
Instead of unloading on Lance, you should be asking the question who is the dumbass who confused this kid for a top flight QB and traded the farm for him. Lance didn't choose to be drafted #3
Agreed. I think the coaching staff was concerned going into pre-season LAST year with Trey Lance that he wasn't picking up on the fundamentals of QB'ing in this league, which is why they brought back Jimmy G after they basically did everything to show him the door in the offseason. The coaching staff and the organization was walking the tight rope of having committed to TL to be the starter going into the season, but I think in reality he was on a very short leash with Jimmy G as the backup. Their saving grace was that TL got hurt early into the 2nd game of the season, which took the decision making out of their hand. And from that point, they knew the TL experiment was over.
Going into this season, they brought in Sam Darnold to be the #1 backup and insurance for Purdy. He was NOT brought in to compete with TL. I believe they had already made the decision to move off of TL, tried offload him before the draft, and then kept him through pre-season and gave him reps to increase his value as much as possible before they traded him.
@@adidasut11 if what you are saying is true, they are even bigger fool than I thought. You just name Lance Qb1 if you have no faith in him just to save face. What if he does not get hurt but holds the team back?
And how signing darnold and staging a competition increase his trade value? Who these fools want to fool? When you give up on a player you traded 3 first round after just 4 games, there are too many question marks. It smells too fishy.
Trey gotta put his big boy pants on and go out there and make plays. Just like Josh Allen said in his commercial for Trey when he was drafted. Bruh just get out there and make plays!
Trey needs to understand that all these ex Players despise the 49ers......
What did they say that was wrong in that film breakdown?
Actually Emannuel Acho always talks good about the 9ers.
@@Kolohe56the same bum who said Bosa wasn't better than Parson because he doesn't run down players 10 yards down the field? 😂 y'all goofy if u even consider that dude a analyst
I’ve seen all these guys praise other niner players. Your assessment is fknstupid
Trey Lance was the biggest bust in 49er history.
This happens every damn year. Some team overreaches and overpays for a QB in round 1, then the player gets blamed when it doesn't pan out. Trey Lance didn't trade up to take Trey Lance. Right now he couldn't start in the XFL.
your smoking dick, trey is a viable option in the nfl
I think he could start in the XFL. He might not have a winning record or great numbers, but that league is low level enough to where Trey could start.
If you don't think he could win, why would you think he could start?@@darrenkrehoff5200
Your exactly right this year it’s the Indianapolis colts taking Richardson they just got their version of trey lance
Yes he could...
And he could be an ok backup in the NFL...
But he's certainly no starter at this point...
hopefully he starts treating all this negativity as motivation to be great
It’s year 3 that ship has sailed. He’s 1 season away from being out of the league, and good riddance.
Breaking down that play is very concerning he’s not locked in like he should it’s obvious he should have learned this while injured
They only think he was looking at the out route, when it looked like he was faking the throw to the out so he could hit the hole. However before he could even throw he took a sack. That won't happen with a 1st team OL. This guy has thrown barely 100 passes in the NFL.. what he is or isn't has yet to been seen. Take the pressure off him and let him chill with a team and build up and we could see a very different player in the future. I think the 49ers ruined his chances with them with how he was managed with his first year and injury. No one can see the future but that's not how you handle a 1st round QB. Maybe its just me that sees it this way.. I imagine him being good for another team that works with him.
Personally, I agree. Everything they said is what I've been saying since his draft night. It's not fully his fault, but why in the [censored per RUclips] would you take a QB 3rd overall with very little experience and put him on a "win now" team? I wanted Mac Jones (or at least Fields since he played for a good school and had experience), his play style would've been great for us, this is why when I saw how Purdy played against the Packers in preseason, he instantly became my favorite QB. Smart, accurate, poised, pocket/mobile when needed to be qbs that look to throw to any of our elite recivers, and that can read defenses is what this team needed. But everyone had to have a Running QB so badly, everyone had to bring race into this discussion as if skin color makes you any more or less of a player. Just to clearify things before everyone starts with the name-calling, i dont want Trey to fail, I want all of the Niners QBs to play well and stay healthy. Yes, Purdy is my favorite and I want to see him continue to be our starter and franchise QB, but I still want Trey to show us SOMETHING. I don't THINK he will, I'm praying im wrong and I get called out for my takes. However, realistically I just don't see any change. It's Trey's 3rd year and we still haven't seen much improvement, and that experience needed to be developed in college or on another team that is in rebuild mode rn, not when we're soo damn close to the main prize.
In hindsight, but dude has all the tools just can’t make the correct decisions
It's Trey's fault in that he presented himself as someone who was ready to step into the NFL and play QB.
It’s ok, the truth is management wanted a diverse qb like mahomes to look good. Shanahan wanted Jones. Management forced him to take Lance. WCYD
@@1who4meI call bullshit. The reason Jones did not get drafted is because he plays exactly like Jimmy G and fans wanted a dual threat QB.
@1who4me Shanahan picked Lance. There was an interview with Lynch about it. You should look it up. It almost seemed like Shanahan had more power than Lynch and I think he still does. I say that because when the team was about to hire Shanahan as the hc, they didn't have a gm yet. According to Lynch, he, for the lack of a better word, volunteered for the position and to work hand in hand with Shanahan. This was due to the previous hc and gm circus show. I'm sure you remember that.
I hate to say this but they are spot on.
They were the only ones telling the truth. No one else wants to say it. The Trey Lance we saw Sunday is not an NFL quarterback. Not even close.
All I know is Purdy better be the guy because this organization is going to crumble piece by piece if he isnt.
...and Lance better look salvageable soon as well
That's ridiculous
Facts
With Jed at the top insider trading lol
@@Fred.sports facts. Brock is better than Brady and Mahomes put together.
Trey lance worst quarterback 49ers ever had
Worst managed quarterback situation of all time😅
Was rooting for Trey, but this is so sloppy all around. O line was terrible, but he held the ball too long. All that talk about him improving his mechanics and the ball is still wobbly.
Trey Lance was still falling asleep on the job on game day last week. He was not mentally and physically ready on game day. I can see the shadow of Giovanni Carmazzi following Trey Lance wherever he goes on football field. We would like to give him another chance in the next game before we put one more nail in the coffin of his NFL career. I just can't wait to see his performance against the Broncos on this Saturday afternoon at Levi's Stadium.
They are elite veterans. Who know the X’s and O’s of the game.
Just because their takes don’t align with 49er RUclips “analysts” reporting from their basements doesn’t mean they are wrong or being mean.
It means you should probably change who you’re getting your info from.
Harsh but thats life. When i watched on sunday i thought we were going to see what ive been hearing content creators say when attending practice, "he looks improved." I didnt see that sunday. This is why i ran with jimmy. He won games. I dont want Ls to let trey learn how to be an nfl qb. Its WAY more enjoyable as a fan to see my team actually in the hunt for a sb...even though some fans will say with brock it will never happen. I think it will happen with brock and that it will NEVER happen with trey. Trey might be out of the league next season.
The next person that says he should have stayed in school and not taken the 34mil should really really think about that even if you are a doctor.
Just couch potatoes 🥔
Oh it was most definitely people in his ear talking it up. But yes, he should've stayed in school to better his NFL career, cause his inexperience is showing big time.
@@Kolohe56He was selected third overall, which completely justifies his decision.
And, frankly, another year in college wouldn't have made much of a difference in his game. Because it would not have greatly improved the aspects of his game in which he is deficient: processing quickly, pocket presence, anticipation, quick release, accuracy, etc. These are not things that come naturally to him, as they do to Purdy or Aidan O'Connell, for example, and I doubt he'll ever be able to overcome them sufficiently to be a starter in this league.
Yes he would have been exposed as a bust earlier and lost his pay day. So for him that was the best decision.
@@greggnelson9334Assuming he didn't blow all of his money. Most bad 1st round picks go broke after leaving the NFL. Too much partying and too much waisted spending.
Biggest bust in 49ers history at this point
And to think we could've had Justin Fields
Thanks for drafting Trey :)
As a bears fan thanks for that
Shanny needed a QB not a RB
Fields ain't all that either lmao
I think he’ll improve as a passer but up to this point he hasn’t been all that, he’s a great runner tho
The only person I trust to break down QB footage is JT O’Sullivan.
He said the same. Not good from Trey
@@wally5278 Overall he had the same take that he missed almost every read.
@@kfings yup, he said he had at least 5 plays that he should have thrown the ball. Open reads.
@@wally5278 wide ass open lol
@@kfings right! Lol
Dam this kid didn’t deserve this……wow
He sure the hell does. He was 3rd overall and in his 3rd year. He should be able to read a basic defense like they just showed.
@@tikka300wsm5you realize the raiders were disgusing cover 3 on that play? a lot of good qbs get tricked by disguise coverages all the time
@@tikka300wsm5what games are you basing this on? Chicago in a monsoon without Kittle and rushing more than RB1. Or 2nd game getting hurt first quarter.. 3rd year. More like 2nd missing all last year but 5 quarters. It's cause he is colored.
@@MindTrain17 Fields played in that same weather.... and the team wasn't good enough to bear the worst team in the nfl because kittle wasn't playing?!?!?! Stop it...
@@tikka300wsm5yeah and Fields had worse stats but y'all don't bring it up cuz he won not thanks to anything he did but because our coach choked and the team constantly hurt themselves with dumb penalties and blown coverage
I had high hopes for him. Sadly hes looking more and more like a kaep 2.0
Kaep was way better than Lance, but to be fair, I don’t believe Greg Romans offense was more difficult than Kyles. Doesn’t excuse not being able to read the D though
Karp could at least run and make his own luck. This kid has nothing.
Kaep went to a sb....not a bad player, refrain from talking about the nfl its making you look bad
@@BrocktaviusKingofNFCso did Jimmy G but yall hated him
What in the hell did the 49ers see that caused them to throw away all those picks for Trey Lance? Someone had to have been fired for that.
I don’t understand why they made TL QB 1 over Jimmy G and why they kept him around after he lost to the 3 - 14 bears. Last year. I would’ve kept Jimmy and dropped Trey.
trey needs to shut down social media and focus on real life
They low key kinda right tho. The man has had the playbook for 3 years now. Youre fully healthy and you’re starting in a preseason game where you should be dominating against second and third stringers. I agree if the NFL had a G league that is where he should be right now, until he proves otherwise.
I wanna put money that trey lance was just chilling when he was injured instead of learning.
Trey was running a offence that was made for a drop back passer ,, Trey was never that .. plus he knews the o-line is very weak,, I like to see any other those people out there talking back about his play that game. step out and try to do it you self with the same offence ,, give him the true test,, with all starters like how Brook with get ... then and then you see where he at ... until then ... SHUT THE HELL UP HATERS !!!!
I just hope the NFL starts realizing that the best physical attributes players, doesn't guarantee translation to a good player.
The fact they haven’t realized that by now is insane
Dumbasses saw Tom Brady lead two dynasties and play for over 20 years but they still don't learn
for a QB, the intangibles are a lot more important than physical ability.
Good idea. The would be cool if the NFL could affiliate with the XFL or USFL or both for a G-League type system. But with the nature of Football with the injuries, the money invested in the players, and the Player's Union I don't think it can ever happen sadly. Cuz a guy Lance could really use the reps at a lower, slower level.
3rd year quarterback and still can’t read a NFL defense is a major red flag 🚩. Makes me wonder how much film Trey Lance actually studies and how dedicated he actually is. You can say “He needs more reps, he sat out a couple of seasons” well by saying that you’re basically admitting Trey Lance entered the draft, took the money and ran with it. Red flags everywhere 🚩 🚩🚩. He looks good throwing practice balls and hitting the weights. Trey Lance may be the biggest QB bust since Jamarcus Russell, as a 49ers fan I really hope that’s not the case. If you ask me, Trey Lance is now competing against Sam Darnold for QB2, QB1 is out of the picture.
100% agree just to add I’d think he would be competing for qb 3 position against Allen lol
I'm not sure he is competing with Darnold for QB2. He might actually be competing with Allen for QB3.
Clown
Niners should cut lance, at this point they are just letting him get bullied every week. I feel like lance is the nerdy kid everyone picks on in high school, just let the dude move to a different team where he can actually have a chance. This is just mean.
Never has a young player gotten written off faster after a handful of starts and preseason games. Can’t use the race card because Trey gets hates from everyone. The kid has got hurt twice which has severely slowed his development. I still feel Treys story is far from finished but man people are burying him.
The NFL is writing the script for Trey, he's done with this team. He'll go to the vikings home town kidding coming back home to lead the vikings and they'll have the 49ers vs vikings in the playoffs. Trey gets revenge on the team that tried to ruin his career. The 49ers are going to go after kirk cousins next year because Purdy isn't it.
The AZ Cardinals moved off of Josh Rosen after ONE YEAR! The 49ers coaches have seen more than enough in practice and games to know that they have with Trey. Problem is that he's still owed $19 million in guaranteed money over the next two years. Even if they trade Lance, the 49ers will still take a $5.4 million dead cap hit for the next to years, but save close to $8 million.
He should have stayed in college and got more playing time.
Every QB in the NFL wants to be in the 49ers (especially rookie QBs) as they know they can go to the NEXT LEVEL. Trey Lance is lucky to be in the 49ers but he is NOT READY for the NFL
This is missed by a lot of ppl, it’s a huge indictment on Trey regardless of what anybody says.. and anybody who would want Trey over Shanahan is out of their minds
i agree. I just hope that maybe he could meet with a couple vets and learn from his mistakes. He should and will be much better than this.
@@ev-x29284I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you have no reason to believe he's going to be better. He's demonstrated that he doesn't belong at this level.
@@darrenkrehoff5200 maybe he should move to the xfl or usfl or smth then.
Shanahan hasn’t developed a single quarterback while here in San Francisco, Purdy was all luck and had 4 years I. College. Shanahan is an offensive genius but he’s nowhere near a quarterback whisperer and it hurts to say because I’m a huge 49er fan
Well keep crying cuz you guys all sound goofy when you say stuff like that not every quarterback is going to pan out and trade-lance might not have panned out whether Kyle was a quarterback of whisper or not. It's not like all these quarterback whispers get people to do stuff all the time
I have to disagree on not being a QB Whisperer as several QBs had their best years under him and without him they weren't as great. Part of the issue is he is the head coach at SF which means someone else needs to spend more time with the QB. But I also think he got the best out of Jimmy and probably will do the same with Purdy. I do not think Trey has the head or talent for the Pro game. He can take partial blame for drafting Trey but I think he really wanted Mac according to some reports. Also, Jimmy was not his choice.
How was Purdy doing what he did last year luck? He showed he had elite IQ as a rookie, underrated athleticism, and his confidence is thru the roof. Not an ideal qb but he gives us the best chance to win right now and he looked really good doing it.
It's not the head coaches job to develop a QB. It's like blaming Warren Buffet because the guy at Dairy Queen can't dip a cone properly.
@@juiceman8990 Purdy runs a faster 40 yard dash than Lance, his 10 yard split time of 1.55 seconds puts him in the 90th percentile, and his ball velocity is faster than Drew Brees and Lamar Jackson. Purdy has more than enough athletic ability to play QB in the NFL.
I would have to agree. I don’t think he belongs in the NFL!! he has shown he is not prepared or ready!!! Zero awareness!! Cannot read a defense whatsoever!!! And too much hesitation!!!! All I can say at this point is I’m glad we let him go!! have fun with him Dallas😂
As a 9er fan put him at 3rd string until you have no choice but to play him.
Blame 49ers GM for wasting so many number 1 picks on a guy who never played against competition. If Trey were a second round gamble based on his physical skills.... maybe that would have made sense. The team that could have drafted Patrick Mahomes (and several other top QBs after that) went CRAZY for an unproven QB. 😂
The 49'ers set the record of how not to draft a quarter back. The old saying goes stats don't lie. Trey did not have enough snaps at the college level to be a 1st round qb pick !
Sadly the criticism is a lot of truth! Still root for the dude though
Dude Trey Lance didn’t play in a big conference. I’m a big Niner fan and have been disappointed every time he had a start at QB1. Just feel it was such a waste giving up all those picks in a big draft year.
I agree with the “put him in the G league” approach. In Euro soccer they do this thing called “loaning” players and basically a large club with give a player to a smaller club in a worse league so that player can get real game time. I wish the 9ers could send Trey to the cfl or XFL for a bit and then bring him back.
I never understood this draft pick from day one. I saw a long arm motion and a propensity to pull the ball down and run before the play develops. Major flaws
Fields was the pick.
He should be nowhere near an nfl field
If you cannot improve your abilities during three years of training in your prime, you gotta quit the job.
feel bad for him but man we lucky we got purdy 👍🏽
Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie season I’m going to let that marinate.
🤦🏿♂️ Damn! 28 int ?
@@ytyahudah5046, yes that’s a rookie record that still stands today. Trey Lance was not given a fair shot, he was not given enough reps to improve as a young player.
Some players learn from experience. Just like some people learn from life experiences. Lance has never had a chance to get in-game experience. In his first season, he didn't play because Jimmy G was in there. 2nd season, it was an injury.
3rd year and he has not changed at all and I never believed he should be qb1…never…if I could share screenshots of messages between my son and I over the years I could prove this. I also thought the game was too fast for Trey and he will almost always opt to keep the ball and get sacked, try to run it, or pass the ball too late.
ALSO, I would be able to prove that I believed Purdy was going to be what he was last year and when Jimmy G went down(even though I was sad) I was not worried about the rest of the season. This season though, I have question marks only because you can never know how a player will react after getter injured.
3rd year of starting and hasn't... oh, wait.
@@jonnyvelocityat some point you have to recognize that's on him. NFL coaches get paid to put the best team on the field. Nobody is invested in watching a team tank a season just to see if maybe, possibly, perhaps, one day one player finally clicks and puts it all together. This isn't YAFL, and Shanahan isn't Lance's daddy-coach.
All his physical traits that let him dominate in college are negated in the pros.
Being very hard on him I like Trey Lance he seems to be a likable person but I don't think he's confident right now but I hope he can prove people wrong right now he's too hesitant to let it loose don't see the running ability being used not even trying it but don't know but I truly wish him the best
I would give Trey time to show his worth & then judge
Time is running out because Brock is better option
He's a bust and that's not the worst part. Brock was last picked and plays like a QB1, which is lucky and great for the niners. The worst part is they don't know how to draft a proper QB.
Lance is dreadful but McCoy shouldn’t be on tv. Just because you are a player doesn’t mean you should be an analyst. Christ.
Where are Trey Fanboys now. The coaching staff has never been in on him nor his teammates. The analysists don't like his game and former players even think he doesn't belong in the NFL. It's kinda obvious imo the whole drafting of Trey was wrong. The one thing he was supposed to have even isn't there. Where is the speed. Brock is quicker avoiding the rush. The Niners are gonna get nothing for him so just cut him and take the hit. I would rather have Allen as QB 3. Trey fanboys it's time to put those jerseys in the closet. It's over.
I don’t blame Lance for not being good. He reminds me of Deshon Kizer. Kizer received all this hype of being a top 5 pick and after watching him struggle in his final year at Notre Dame, he ended up being a second round pick and didn’t pan out. Lance couldn’t dominate Missouri Valley defenses. Aside from from his no interceptions, his numbers were pretty mediocre. Lance should have been a 3rd round pick. Teams haven’t learned anything from history and continue to take these overhyped QB’s with their top 5 picks, which hasn’t produced much stardom in recent years. Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold or Marcus Mariota. The top 5 picks have produced way more busts at the QB position than success, but teams continue to do it and this is what happens. Drafting a 5’8 QB first overall is never a good idea, yet the Cardinals did it and now in hindsight, it shouldn’t happen again. Then Carolina does it just a few years later with Young, who is 5’9. Running QB’s don’t win. Didn’t work with Newton, Vick, Mariota, Vince Young, Tebow or Kaepernick. Yet people continue to draft them early and often.
The 49ers are going to need Trey at some point during the season. Look at how bad the OL was...no QB is going to survive the season on the 49ers.😂
Trey Lance had his chance during the pre-season games and I must say he came up short.
They aren't wrong sadly. It's not Treys fault either. Its crazy to think that the 49ers literally got rid of Jimmy G for a project QB with 3 1sts. At this time Brock Purdy was also a unknown. I was pissed at this whole extravaganza they did whilst the majority of the fan base was manipulated by 49er youtubers convincing them that Jimmy G is crap, Trey is wayyy better & will be the king of the NFC. BRUH!
Gave all that away for a guy with 320ish career pass attempts in college lol
@@slowmobius2136 don't remind me 😭
I feel played for Jimmy g he should still be in the nines as a backup , he already took a payout for the team .
All this falls on Trey's shoulder. He has not improved from season 1. The way he played against the Raiders was awful. He needs to be on the Falcons or similar team. He's not ready for the bright lights.
Their is definitely some truth to what these guys are saying and it sucks cause I really felt like trey would be him idk I just feel bad for the guy honestly.
I was pissed when SF gave so much away for a guy who played only about 1 season in college and drafted him #3 overall. I was them pissed that they traded him to Dallas. WTF!!
The thing I appreciate is that they're telling the truth, unbiased and brutal. What breaks my heart is if any of them were white, the "media" would be calling these statements "raysis" and would coddle Lance, perpetuating the problems and issues. QB is hard and GOOD passing is quick thinking, understanding what you're LOOKING at. People think this 'dual threat' QB/retardo rugby is the "evolution" of the game when it's the OPPOSITE. It's how the NFL was before the forward pass, is DEVOLVING, dumbing down and it erodes the team concept, starving RB's and WR's of valuable roles.
The injury was extremely unfortunate but he just doesn't have enough playing experience even going back to college. He'd have a great future in the XFL.
Lance should never have been drafted.
I'm tired of hearing about TL5 too, Enough with him, Trade him for a bottle of Water.
Acho sounding like he should be on the view or some day time soap opera 😅 too much drama for week 1 preseason. Use the negative Trey, Time to ball out !!!
Not a single lie was said in the entire conversation.
Players know.
Lance is top 7 in this league. Everyone is going to eat crow.
They critize the o line they where not protecting sht
That 'out and up' looked like a TD but Trey opted for the out, pump faked and took the sack.
They aren’t wrong. The dude can’t play and can’t read a defense. It’s as if he’s never played football before.
Or maybe he can play but he's playing the wrong position.
He's like a Running Back trying to throw the ball.
Lance is a joke
I was a trey lance believer until Sunday, traded all that draft capital for a project, yet got a stating caliber qb w/ the last pick lmao
Kids awful. Those analysts on ESPN are just as bad