Hi all, for those curious about my statement regarding "C/4 rate" : The 200ah battery was supplying 50 amps to the inverter. If you take the Capacity of the battery (200) and divide it by 4, or 200/4 you get "50"! So, 50 amps current draw is C/4! PS: On the other hand, C/10 is a perfectly safe and easy rate for charge/discharge of normal LiFePo4 batteries. That's capacity divided by 10. So for a 200ah battery, C/10 rate is 20 amps.... For those of you that don't know, the slash character "/" in C/X implies division, not multiplication! This can cause confusion. Hope that helps - any questions feel free to ask :) -Dave
@@SupertigerDev Hello, C/4 is not healthy long term for normal LiFePo4 whether charging or discharging. There are so many reasons. Don't worry I am working on a video about charge/discharge rates and long term durability of LiFePo4. Much of the information available is quite erroneous. I hope the upcoming video will provide some clarity on this topic for all DIY'ers. FYI: C/10 (capacity divided by 10) is quite safe and easy for normal LiFePo4 batteries. That is what I limit my batteries to for long term use. Have used them for about twelve years now.
@Jon-fs2zj Hello, lead acid is tremendously more affected by C rate. They lose much more power (are less efficient) the greater the discharge rate. Lifepo4s can still have this issue, but are so much better performing. Nevertheless, lead acid batteries still work and are still in use today. Hope this is helpful... any questions please ask :)
I have a 2000w inverter (running watts - max is much higher). If I hook it up to a car battery, and car running, will there be any problems? And again if the car isn't running. battery is lead acid, 600CCA, 12v. Alternator presumably is a stock 100 amp one. On the car battery alone, how long with the power last?
@truckywuckyuwu Right on, I build custom 12v appliances :D several 12-volt ovens, a 12v cooktop, and various other DC cooking appliances. You can see a few of my builds in the video linked below. Anyway, inverters will be here for a long time, millions of people use them, and me too sometimes. It's good to have options :) 12v cooktop, ovens cooking demo on a 200ah battery ruclips.net/video/hQQrRcwd6dg/видео.html
This video is really typical of the useful content you post on your channel ! Your videos have enough information along with links to the same components I need to build the project . I appreciate the way you keep your projects safe and still frugal for those of us that are retired on fixed incomes.. Thanks for these great videos !
Also one of my fave practical tinkering channels. Plus, he answers all his comments, although, I am not sure he will still be able to when he gets to 200K ;-)
@christopherd.winnan8701 I'm thankful you like the content :D I don't know if this channel will ever hit 200k... but if it does, I'll try to keep up lol
Those 1200W are the peak power that it can delliver. I think is about the startup power needed by a motor or the cold resistence of the heater when you plug it in. However, I agree, for up to 600W for that price you got a very good deal. I also would buy two of them for that price, just in case, you never know how much it will last, especially if you run it close to its max 600W.
@sebastian19745 The FETs in this inverter are too tiny, in order to surge 100A+ they need to be a certain size (or enough of them in parallel) to not pop under a surge. Generally speaking, doubling the continuous rating is standard marketing practice. I never believe it and have almost never seen a basic inverter meet the rated surge. Best to focus on the continuous rating at this price level. I was actually impressed by how it performed. Thought it would burn before the food cooked.
These cheap modified sine wave inverters can last a long time if the loads are small. I actually used it to power a Samsung inverter refrigerator. I'm happy to say it did not break the refrigerator and the inverter continued to work for 3.5 years. Though inverter refrigerators convert that AC to DC so maybe the waveform doesn't matter? Also I believe these inverters should have a fuse soldered inside it. My 600W inverter has two 35A fuses in parallel.
Hopefully if I don't use this inverter 24x7 it will survive a long time. Interesting case study with the Inverter fridges... probably has rectification so it would make sense it can survive square wave. Standard AC induction compressors tend to heat up and have other issues if powered by square wave. I really wish this thing had a fuse outside! but for the price I won't complain :)
Modified sine wave works GREATish for resistive loads...they are HELL on inductive loads such as motors for compressors and whatnot That is a neat little "load bank" for testing those inverters, as it will provide a decent continuous load on the output, same for those little heater boxes as well.
I can find these inverters at yard sales for 5 bucks,good prep items,but I don’t trust any electrical devices for durability or quality. The cost of that battery is a lot of Coleman fuel or propane and those appliances are almost bulletproof. Keep up the good work.
Good points. Personally, I keep propane as a backup to my DC and AC cooking appliances. Propane can sit for years without any issues in case there is an emergency.
Amazing it actually pushed full 600 watts for anytime! I'd guess it would do 400 watts continuous and 600 for a few minutes before going into overload. 1200 watts for a split second till the capacitor inside gets sucked down.
@curtchase3730 I was cringing during the tests. But the outside never got too hot to touch. However pushing 600w would be a bad idea for 24x7 operation, I bet it would eventually burn out. For a "prepper" inverter and emergency use and cooking a quick emergency meal, I think (hope) it will serve me well :D
I've been running a cheap modified sine wave, 240V, 3000W inverter for about 6 years in my campervan. It easily handles my toaster, kettle, air fryer, and recently my new 300W mini a/c unit. All inverters have the best efficiency at low power running, so try to avoid running them at high load levels. All my other electronic devices in the van are either direct 12v or 18v dc.
@normanmazlin6741 Interesting. I'd like to test a larger square wave inverter for cooking. The 600w will be for portable and intermittent use and it should be fine for that
@solarpoweredge I haven't had success getting it to work with my 2000w induction cooktop, which is odd, given that the heating system is basically a badly designed transformer. I would like to try it on other induction cookers.
@normanmazlin6741 Thanks for the info. I had a feeling induction cooktop on square wave "could" be problematic... I have some ideas about this and will test in my workshop. If successful I will share the results
@christopherd.winnan8701 They are from "Gauge Wire and Cable" on e_bay, he does nice work. USA made wire etc. $7.52/ea 18inch 4awg 3/8 lugs Yes I'm working on another direct-PV cooking setup, it will take a while to finish. Hope to share it as soon as humanly possible :)
Thumbs up for science. 👍 My experience with modified waves haven't been as favorable. The inverters have survived, however, low wattage appliances haven't.
@jamesfalvey77 Right on, tasty science :D I am not surprised, many appliances just can't handle the square wave. However, planning to test several different devices for public service and "see what happens"... hopefully it won't cost me a fortune like the Peltier module research did :0
@billruss6704 The FETs sure are small but for the price I don't complain. It can handle 600w for 30 minutes, then I let it cool down. The outside never got too hot to touch. I think for 24x7 use, 600w would result in a puff of gray smoke :D
@billruss6704 Does the fridge have a standard (non inverter) compressor? I know square wave can damage and overheat inductive AC compressors. On the other hand... I hear of folks running fridges temporarily during emergencies... maybe that's the key here
6:52 I'm not sure you got that calculation correct, 4C would be 800A 4x battery capacity, I think your running it at around 0.25C discharge. At around 50amp the battery should last hour 4 hours. @4C the battery would be empty in 15mins. please corrects me if I'm wrong as I'm not 100% sure on this.
I got a 2000w one from eBay $49. I live in Australia and it's about 5/6 years old no daily use but got me out of problems every year with power outages . Microwave. fish tank. phone charger. lights.tv .hot days with fans. I can't complain
When I first started out in solar I bought harbor freight chicago tools 2000 watt inverter. Man that thing is a beast. But, has massive fans which are great and bad for when I had small setup. I needed something run fans to what the load was ramping up to temps and load. So moved on into PSI Xantrex stuff. But, I always keep my little Modified stuff still. They still serve their purposes.
@1kzrider Sounds like a workhorse. That's making me want to by a HF inverter :D I have a Samlex and Xantrex in my house. Plus a couple of generic overseas models. Decent quality units but probably will upgrade to something larger and let them power small freezers - or just have spares
@@solarpoweredge Yea, now I have big lifepo4 batts. I will get use out that big blue 2000 watt modified 12v inverter. I have come across this one inverter and been using it for least 3yrs or so now brand is Cotex this one is 24V 700watt PSI. This is a daily work horse. Runs my desktop and other devices. This channel did good review I think on it. ruclips.net/video/ZfVVrHZm_zk/видео.html Man I like your channel I like what your doing with Solar to DC direct stuff. Been doing this with DC Fans only. But, you sir have done leaps and bounds better. I am very interested in your PV to Heat stuff. I have 3 diff setups. 48V big batt 120Ah with 2k of panels. 24V 200Ah ecoworthy batts 3x355 panels then a little 50watt panel on a 30watt ecoworthy. I moved to Victron on all my MPPT CC's.
@1kzrider Those batteries sound great 👍 lots of fun. I like that inverter and want to buy it... that's the problem, I want 2 of each.... Thanks for watching my videos, yt is a toxic environment and I value anyone who will give my work more than a passing glance... an unbelievable amount of work/suffering is behind each project video. thanks for watching :D
@@solarpoweredge Just know myself and I am sure others understand all your hard work. And I actually do appreciate those like yourself trying to help others out. Keep up the good work and forget the negative folks out there. Evil exist sadly and people find trying to tear others down entertainment. Best we can do is pray for them. Cheers~~
@1kzrider You are the kind of person I want to reach :) thanks for being here. I hold the same beliefs about prayer. We can provide something "Good" to the world in a sea of evil, avoid joining the wrong side. Make the world a little better. The rest is often out of our hands! Take care and thanks again!
You got lucky that that inverter was able to supply the advertised wattage. Pro tip: Cook the potatos for about half an hour before the broccoli so that they finish cooking close to the same time.
@josephpadula2283 Excellent idea, I have one but have not tested it yet. I am curious as to whether it works, and if so is it less efficient than on a sine inverter? If I get around to it I will upload and share the results :D
@deanedeane4318 You are right :) I think they overcooked. Because I wanted a longer test. But I always warn people that I'm no cook, so they know my skill level ! take care :D ❤️
@janicereadymartcher7696 Yes it's surprising what 37 bucks can do. Here is part of my solar equipment install for the solar workshop. ruclips.net/video/OEPnwosBYE0/видео.html I have not shown the main system installed in my house, maybe in the future I can record that
@@solarpoweredge if you use it conservatively at maybe half the rated capacity (300w), will it guarantee that it will last for a long time? too bad it's not pure sine wave though, 300w is more than enough for charging electronics like laptops and phones.
@peejae082004 I am looking for a cheap PSW inverter to compare, but my budget is quite low :) 300w limit should greatly extend the longevity - but the main concern is temperature. If we could guarantee the electronics stay around ~40C (better fan?) this is a quick and sure way to maximize lifecycle!
@viyusavery248 Right on! I plan to run modified inverters on any cookers or heaters in the future, while saving the more expensive inverters for computers and sensitive loads
For resistive loads any power source is good, no matter the waveform if it is an AC source, or a battery (DC). The only case pure sine inverters are needed is induction motors or classic transformers. For all the rest of the loads, the modified sinus inverter will work fine. About "sensitive loads"...most of them use switching power supplies in our days. Such a supply has no need of pure sinus since it rectifies the input current into DC and then chops it in square pulses adjusting their duration in order to adjust the voltage at the output. This means that these power supplies are independent of the input wave shape and can work happily with pure DC. Modified sinus inverters work on the same principal. So, no problem for the so called "sensitive loads" which is a marketing term only. Finally, we put a simple LC filter at the output of a modified sinus inverter, practically if we suppress the third harmonic content at the output, we can use the inverter for any load. On the other hand it is a luxury to use pure sinus inverter for cooking or heating in general. It just doesn't make sense. A brutal rectangular inverter will do the job perfectly. A DC source like a battery will do the same...
@harmonyaquarian9210 Hi! glad you liked this.... there is a link in the video description to the pot, or just search for it by name on walmart or amazon. (I can't put links in the chat)
@kevinoakes1870 Thank you :D I liked this inverter, hope it lasts. PS sorry for the confusion, I meant C/4 or capacity divided by 4: 200/50=4 (but C/10 is the rate I normally try to stay with)
@stefanocerna6504 Agreed, I love lifepo4 :) C/10 (20 amps) is the best rate for storage (energy) cells you can find more info on my blog. C/4 or 50 amps I would not do that long term, as it's not healthy for storage cells. that said, occasionally exceeding C/10 shouldn't have a big impact on cell longevity.
@Glocktard You are confusing Multiply with Divide! C/x is standard terminology, "/" (slash) means Divide. The C/4 rate for this battery, as stated in the video, is 50 amps. Capacity (C) / divided by 4 is 50. But C/10 is a better rate, totally healthy for Lifepo4 storage cells. That's 20 amps with a 200ah battery (C/10 = 200/10 = 20amps) I did not say "4C" 4*C, that would be 800 amps! Hope that makes sense!
ok but you never actual tested the VTOMAN Portable Power Station to do like soldering , rework station usage all day to be plug in , just wondering can you do that ??? i just need to know if it can handle it or not , because i like to cut my power bill in half lol
@HalifaxComputersRepair Based on the performance running other loads, I am 100% sure it will handle a rework station. You could have a solar panel outside and run a cable inside to power your system, would be a cool setup
i have a few of the 3 and 400 watt ones i bought or aquired over yrs but they had external fuses like cars have.. but when i bough the 100 ah lipo4 i sprung for a 1500 watt pure sine wave. slipped and blew fuses on it opened it up and removed fuses from inside i used frcuips to pull them and they fell apart. then looked in and positive connection to board has strands sticking out of the solder . fortunatly i took the 3 yr warrantee they refunded and bought one mant yt were buying and worked well but they should all have external fuses
@VigilanceTech That's a good idea, I'll try it as soon as possible. Probably looks like a square wave with added peaks, or at least that's how the "modified" ones tend to look on the scope
Great value for a 600 watt'er! Great info. I just bought a previously owned 1100 watt"er ( looks mint) for exactly the same reason ... just to have in the war chest. I paid $40 CDN ... so almost free in $USD 😂. Did the same type of load test and it worked flawlessly even with the 8 AWG supplied leads. At 18" voltage drop is very small even at almost 90 amps but thicker would absolutely be better.
I did not expect to be impressed, but I should be more open minded about affordable inverters - this thing impressed me and survived. (Just hope it lasts though) ... you got a bargain on the 1100w, 40cdn is like $28, Nice job lol :D
You may not want to put in the effort for this low value inverter, but putting an IR camera on the unit while under heavy load does a great job of identifying hot spots (potential failure points) which sometimes can be easily remedied...ie poor connections /air flow etc. S
Obvious, but IR is done with cover removed and use some sort of external fan as without the shroud, cooling is compromised and you still want some level of air flow.
@Building_the_SHACK Superb advice. I've been offered IR cameras for review, but haven't been able to get to it. Maybe soon. and then this inverter will be one of the first "scientifc volunteers"
@Building_the_SHACK Right, removing the cover would affect the air flow. So maybe keep the cover on and take it off mid test and quickly take a scan of the components, then put it back on. Well that's my idea anyway :D
You'll be lucky to get even 6 months worth of use out of this high frequency, transformerless inverter. All high frequency inverters, even the much larger XP models offer shorter life expectancies. You should buy a low frequency, transformer based inverter instead.
@quickquote1568 This inverter certainly won't last forever, but for a standby/emergency solution I think it's OK. I have a LF inverter for normal daily use
Hmm, maybe you should also take a look to tataliken inverters. The are mostly pure sinewave wave (real) and not very expensive. Maybe not the greatest inverter but for the price it's i think! . Really nice to have! :)
@CIVILDEFENSEBUNKER Yes they are more efficient, however there is no 12v version of this cooker / steamer and I want to use it. Perhaps in the future I can convert it to 12v or direct PV.
Any thoughts on modifying one of the cheap quality square wave inverters with a Pure Sine Wave Inverter SPWM Board EGS002 EG8010 + IR2110 Driver Module?
I like to keep my eye out at the second hand shops for the older high quality jumper cables as well for the ideally 2 gauge, though what not. Seems the pure copper is becoming less and less a find. Even so.
I also wonder about the most cost effective ways to DC-DC convert higher voltage solar panels down to the 48V or lesser range so to save on copper. Parallel the cheap DC-DC converters so can handle higher current load?
@jafinch78 Hi, it's technically challenging but could work. The square inverter has many components sine inverters have too. There is no question we'd have to heavily modify the circuit board, maybe cut some traces, etc.
@jafinch78 Regarding parallel DC-DC converters: good thinking.... I've done something similar and it works. The trick seems to be balancing the two boards. But once they're balanced it works!
Can you make a video of how to connect this device to a battery and how to charge the battery from a solar panel without a smart card to regulate the charging? ❤😊
Hello, yes I have a couple of systems built that way, I will record a video for you as soon as humanly possible... hope it will be helpful! Take care :) ❤️
You should monitor the voltage drop on the inverter to see how fast or slow it gets back to voltage for sensitive equipment. Also components can wear/break down prematurely due to stress of voltage drops that are too drastically.
@LawPope Good idea and good points. That Ampintv 1200w can run my video PC with no problems. But I have not checked the voltage regulation / reaction time, need to do that soon.
@dough6393 Welcome! love that meter... just added a link to the description, sorry can't post web links in chat.... or search for Gochifix scopemeter PS older video where I tested it ruclips.net/video/RBoQZ_HWm70/видео.html
@chris_mk5supra Yes they do, so have to be careful what is plugged in. Resistive cooker, heater, light bulbs, they are OK. The mosfets look too tiny for 100 amps, I wouldn't bother. Most inverters just double the normal rating as a standard marketing practice. However, I'm going to be reasonable and say this is a good inverter, because it didn't overheat and made 600w continuous. Not sure what would happen after 1 hour (vs 30m) maybe I'll try that next
@@solarpoweredge what about grounding with thise inverter? are they safe? i have one that i stoped using because people said it was dangerous and bad for electronics, maybe i could have some use for in in the end
I bought a very inexpensive one to do a test with a solar panel setup. I plugged in my Watt-meter and it gave me weird readings and then stopped working after like 10 seconds. Lets say the experiment stopped and it has been in a drawer since.
@chris_mk5supra The ground is floating on this inverter (most small inverters are the same), so in effect we can think of it as a standalone high voltage converter. The main thing to avoid is bad wiring (exposed conductors, damaged cords) and contact with water, other than that it should be as safe as any inverter to use. Some electronics and pretty much all AC induction motors can be damaged or affected by the square wave, so best to stick with a Sine inverter for those types of loads. Hope that helps
@Luke-san Yeah that's not cool... the wattmeter I used seems OK with square wave, however it is a fact that some electronics react poorly to it. Also the readout might be a bit inaccurate. Based on the input power W, the output readout seemed very reasonable. Maybe next time I'll try 2 different meters and compare the results
@Vangeliss I have some very old and small inverters. One is square wave and over 15 years old. If I don't run this 600w to death 24x7, it should be fine! (Especially if I avoid surges and overheating)
@simonallan9941 Despite being cheap, I was impressed the both soldered and crimped the alligator clamps... don't think I've seen that before at this price
True! While I am curious about testing desktop computers and induction appliances on square wave (to see how they handle it) I don't want to risk it at all
@IntenseGrid Thanks :D I can't even make an inverter for that amount, especially considering the time (labor) involved! And if I did, it probably would't work...
@elelegidosf9707 My preferred way of pronouncing the word is in fact "soddered". However it seems to irk a lot of people, so I usually try to say "soldered". I'm from coastal south :D
@@solarpoweredge One has to adapt. For example, am a Brit living in the USA and I have to speak v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y and c-l-e-a-r-l-y so that the natives understand me.
@JuanMartinezavalos-lt8uk Hi, a link is posted in the description - that is an affiliate link so I may get a small commission if you use it. But if you don't want to use it, can just search Amazon for: "600W Power Inverter" and it should be one of the top results. If you have any problem finding the inverter, please let me know. PS: I can't post links here in the chat
Cheap electronics thst won't last long. Buy two!, and learn how to fix and get spares for the mosfets or what ever goes wrong on the first one. It will probably overheat and take out some components. Put better cooling fan heat sinks on .
@ewanbaxter9199 Through the AC or USB-C? did you try running anything else? I do know square wave is pretty dirty and some electronics don't want to run on it
@erichertsens Can be true, although resistance appliances are far cheaper/simpler and don't need complex electronics. I plan to test an induction cooktop on this inverter out of curiosity, just to see what happens.
@@solarpoweredge Induction cooktops usually need 1500 watts in my experience, tried a modified 1k watt inverter on one myself and when turning up the cook top the inverter started to smoke during a heating cycle. Didnt beep, shutdown or anything just a bit of smoke, sorry dont recall the model other than it was yellow and black, not a dewalt though. Still works just thinking it asked too much from a modified 1k model. Pure sine 2k inverter worked fine, have a 1.5K pure model I should test as well once its not freezing cold outside.
Quite sad that we all know now that half of the claims on consumer goods are a fat LIE ! About the MTBF of this converter, we'll know when it gives up when it gives up . . . . . . right? 😋
@taunteratwill1787 Yeah pretty much every low cost inverter just doubles the rated power for decorative purposes. Under a surge test they either burn or fail to deliver the rated amps. Good point about MTBF, we simply don't know... however I was very impressed the inverter could keep itself so cool. So I feel it has a good chance to survive my use case :D
Hi all, for those curious about my statement regarding "C/4 rate" :
The 200ah battery was supplying 50 amps to the inverter.
If you take the Capacity of the battery (200) and divide it by 4, or 200/4 you get "50"! So, 50 amps current draw is C/4!
PS: On the other hand, C/10 is a perfectly safe and easy rate for charge/discharge of normal LiFePo4 batteries. That's capacity divided by 10. So for a 200ah battery, C/10 rate is 20 amps....
For those of you that don't know, the slash character "/" in C/X implies division, not multiplication! This can cause confusion.
Hope that helps - any questions feel free to ask :)
-Dave
can i get more information about this, is it bad for the battery?
@@SupertigerDev Hello, C/4 is not healthy long term for normal LiFePo4 whether charging or discharging. There are so many reasons. Don't worry I am working on a video about charge/discharge rates and long term durability of LiFePo4. Much of the information available is quite erroneous. I hope the upcoming video will provide some clarity on this topic for all DIY'ers.
FYI: C/10 (capacity divided by 10) is quite safe and easy for normal LiFePo4 batteries. That is what I limit my batteries to for long term use. Have used them for about twelve years now.
Does this apply to lead acid batteries as well?@@solarpoweredge
@Jon-fs2zj Hello, lead acid is tremendously more affected by C rate. They lose much more power (are less efficient) the greater the discharge rate. Lifepo4s can still have this issue, but are so much better performing. Nevertheless, lead acid batteries still work and are still in use today. Hope this is helpful... any questions please ask :)
I have a 2000w inverter (running watts - max is much higher).
If I hook it up to a car battery, and car running, will there be any problems?
And again if the car isn't running.
battery is lead acid, 600CCA, 12v.
Alternator presumably is a stock 100 amp one.
On the car battery alone, how long with the power last?
I loaned a friend my harbor freight 2kw inverter he used it a couple months made coffee almost every day still works fine
@micro4329 Nobody will loan me an inverter as of yet. I do try to treat them well... oh well
Get yourself some 12/24v cooking appliances. You can power directly then. Save a ton of energy wasted with inverters.
@truckywuckyuwu Right on, I build custom 12v appliances :D several 12-volt ovens, a 12v cooktop, and various other DC cooking appliances. You can see a few of my builds in the video linked below. Anyway, inverters will be here for a long time, millions of people use them, and me too sometimes. It's good to have options :)
12v cooktop, ovens cooking demo on a 200ah battery
ruclips.net/video/hQQrRcwd6dg/видео.html
This video is really typical of the useful content you post on your channel ! Your videos have enough information along with links to the same components I need to build the project . I appreciate the way you keep your projects safe and still frugal for those of us that are retired on fixed incomes.. Thanks for these great videos !
@zing913945 You're most welcome! I appreciate the kind feedback, thanks very much :) 👍
One of the few channels left that isn't pushing products and looking out for the needs of regular folk
@subhobroto I'm keeping that in mind for future videos, thanks Shuvo :)
Also one of my fave practical tinkering channels. Plus, he answers all his comments, although, I am not sure he will still be able to when he gets to 200K ;-)
@christopherd.winnan8701 I'm thankful you like the content :D
I don't know if this channel will ever hit 200k... but if it does, I'll try to keep up lol
Those 1200W are the peak power that it can delliver. I think is about the startup power needed by a motor or the cold resistence of the heater when you plug it in. However, I agree, for up to 600W for that price you got a very good deal. I also would buy two of them for that price, just in case, you never know how much it will last, especially if you run it close to its max 600W.
@sebastian19745 The FETs in this inverter are too tiny, in order to surge 100A+ they need to be a certain size (or enough of them in parallel) to not pop under a surge.
Generally speaking, doubling the continuous rating is standard marketing practice. I never believe it and have almost never seen a basic inverter meet the rated surge. Best to focus on the continuous rating at this price level. I was actually impressed by how it performed. Thought it would burn before the food cooked.
I try not to exceed 50-60% of my inverters rating to be on the safe side. This inverter did well. Nice video and Greetings from Jamaica.
@lawrencedavidson6195 Hello in Jamaica :) you're right, that's a very safe number. Running max watts for a long time can be risky
These cheap modified sine wave inverters can last a long time if the loads are small. I actually used it to power a Samsung inverter refrigerator. I'm happy to say it did not break the refrigerator and the inverter continued to work for 3.5 years. Though inverter refrigerators convert that AC to DC so maybe the waveform doesn't matter?
Also I believe these inverters should have a fuse soldered inside it. My 600W inverter has two 35A fuses in parallel.
Hopefully if I don't use this inverter 24x7 it will survive a long time. Interesting case study with the Inverter fridges... probably has rectification so it would make sense it can survive square wave. Standard AC induction compressors tend to heat up and have other issues if powered by square wave.
I really wish this thing had a fuse outside! but for the price I won't complain :)
Clamped and Soldered, good, Modified sine wave, not good for electronics but OK for resistive loads!😁😁
@wallychambe1587 Right on :D and it doesn't overheat, which surprised me. Was cringing during the test :D
Modified sine wave works GREATish for resistive loads...they are HELL on inductive loads such as motors for compressors and whatnot
That is a neat little "load bank" for testing those inverters, as it will provide a decent continuous load on the output, same for those little heater boxes as well.
@haydenc2742 Right on! a load bank that cooks potatoes is what I call "extra efficient"
i know for sure universal motors dont care about it but for triak dimmer it would be a problem
I can find these inverters at yard sales for 5 bucks,good prep items,but I don’t trust any electrical devices for durability or quality. The cost of that battery is a lot of Coleman fuel or propane and those appliances are almost bulletproof. Keep up the good work.
Good points. Personally, I keep propane as a backup to my DC and AC cooking appliances. Propane can sit for years without any issues in case there is an emergency.
Amazing it actually pushed full 600 watts for anytime! I'd guess it would do 400 watts continuous and 600 for a few minutes before going into overload. 1200 watts for a split second till the capacitor inside gets sucked down.
@curtchase3730 I was cringing during the tests. But the outside never got too hot to touch. However pushing 600w would be a bad idea for 24x7 operation, I bet it would eventually burn out. For a "prepper" inverter and emergency use and cooking a quick emergency meal, I think (hope) it will serve me well :D
This is essentially my camping setup.
@RichardRudolph-u2r Excellent :D
Excellent suggestion for preparing. Steamer on order. Thanks for sharing.
@glyngibbs9489 Awesome.. hope you like it! I am no good at cooking, but anything that boils and steams from a battery is interesting to me :)
I've been running a cheap modified sine wave, 240V, 3000W inverter for about 6 years in my campervan. It easily handles my toaster, kettle, air fryer, and recently my new 300W mini a/c unit. All inverters have the best efficiency at low power running, so try to avoid running them at high load levels. All my other electronic devices in the van are either direct 12v or 18v dc.
@normanmazlin6741 Interesting. I'd like to test a larger square wave inverter for cooking. The 600w will be for portable and intermittent use and it should be fine for that
@solarpoweredge I haven't had success getting it to work with my 2000w induction cooktop, which is odd, given that the heating system is basically a badly designed transformer. I would like to try it on other induction cookers.
@normanmazlin6741 Thanks for the info. I had a feeling induction cooktop on square wave "could" be problematic... I have some ideas about this and will test in my workshop. If successful I will share the results
@@solarpoweredge
Thanks
How much were the cables, and can you cook directly from the panel?
@christopherd.winnan8701 They are from "Gauge Wire and Cable" on e_bay, he does nice work. USA made wire etc. $7.52/ea 18inch 4awg 3/8 lugs
Yes I'm working on another direct-PV cooking setup, it will take a while to finish. Hope to share it as soon as humanly possible :)
Thumbs up for science. 👍
My experience with modified waves haven't been as favorable. The inverters have survived, however, low wattage appliances haven't.
@jamesfalvey77 Right on, tasty science :D I am not surprised, many appliances just can't handle the square wave. However, planning to test several different devices for public service and "see what happens"... hopefully it won't cost me a fortune like the Peltier module research did :0
These usually works until the mosfet breaks but good backup.
@billruss6704 The FETs sure are small but for the price I don't complain. It can handle 600w for 30 minutes, then I let it cool down. The outside never got too hot to touch. I think for 24x7 use, 600w would result in a puff of gray smoke :D
@@solarpoweredge Sounds like it would work great for cycling an energy efficient refrigerator. I think that I will get one for emergency back up.
@billruss6704 Does the fridge have a standard (non inverter) compressor? I know square wave can damage and overheat inductive AC compressors. On the other hand... I hear of folks running fridges temporarily during emergencies... maybe that's the key here
6:52 I'm not sure you got that calculation correct, 4C would be 800A 4x battery capacity, I think your running it at around 0.25C discharge.
At around 50amp the battery should last hour 4 hours. @4C the battery would be empty in 15mins.
please corrects me if I'm wrong as I'm not 100% sure on this.
@TWMist Hello, the discharge rate was C/4 (I pinned a comment up top)
I got a 2000w one from eBay $49. I live in Australia and it's about 5/6 years old no daily use but got me out of problems every year with power outages . Microwave. fish tank. phone charger. lights.tv .hot days with fans. I can't complain
@deathwish5410 That's a real bargain! gonna look for one around here :D
When I first started out in solar I bought harbor freight chicago tools 2000 watt inverter. Man that thing is a beast. But, has massive fans which are great and bad for when I had small setup. I needed something run fans to what the load was ramping up to temps and load. So moved on into PSI Xantrex stuff. But, I always keep my little Modified stuff still. They still serve their purposes.
@1kzrider Sounds like a workhorse. That's making me want to by a HF inverter :D I have a Samlex and Xantrex in my house. Plus a couple of generic overseas models. Decent quality units but probably will upgrade to something larger and let them power small freezers - or just have spares
@@solarpoweredge Yea, now I have big lifepo4 batts. I will get use out that big blue 2000 watt modified 12v inverter. I have come across this one inverter and been using it for least 3yrs or so now brand is Cotex this one is 24V 700watt PSI. This is a daily work horse. Runs my desktop and other devices. This channel did good review I think on it. ruclips.net/video/ZfVVrHZm_zk/видео.html
Man I like your channel I like what your doing with Solar to DC direct stuff. Been doing this with DC Fans only. But, you sir have done leaps and bounds better. I am very interested in your PV to Heat stuff.
I have 3 diff setups. 48V big batt 120Ah with 2k of panels. 24V 200Ah ecoworthy batts 3x355 panels then a little 50watt panel on a 30watt ecoworthy. I moved to Victron on all my MPPT CC's.
@1kzrider Those batteries sound great 👍 lots of fun. I like that inverter and want to buy it... that's the problem, I want 2 of each....
Thanks for watching my videos, yt is a toxic environment and I value anyone who will give my work more than a passing glance... an unbelievable amount of work/suffering is behind each project video. thanks for watching :D
@@solarpoweredge Just know myself and I am sure others understand all your hard work. And I actually do appreciate those like yourself trying to help others out. Keep up the good work and forget the negative folks out there. Evil exist sadly and people find trying to tear others down entertainment. Best we can do is pray for them. Cheers~~
@1kzrider You are the kind of person I want to reach :) thanks for being here. I hold the same beliefs about prayer. We can provide something "Good" to the world in a sea of evil, avoid joining the wrong side. Make the world a little better. The rest is often out of our hands! Take care and thanks again!
You got lucky that that inverter was able to supply the advertised wattage.
Pro tip: Cook the potatos for about half an hour before the broccoli so that they finish cooking close to the same time.
@memadmax69 I wasn't thinking of that at all... thanks for the tip!!
PS This is why I never claim to be a cook....
@@solarpoweredge lol. Hey great vids btw keep it up and have a good one.
@memadmax69 Thanks :D take care
Thanks for sharing 👍
@TheIronHeadRat Welcome, hope this stuff will be helpful to folks :D
For cooking perhaps test an induction heater that looks like a one “burner” stove top .
Might be too much for this inverter but worth looking at ?
@josephpadula2283 Excellent idea, I have one but have not tested it yet. I am curious as to whether it works, and if so is it less efficient than on a sine inverter? If I get around to it I will upload and share the results :D
I think your greens will be mushy ! Interesting test ! Hopefully it'll keep going ! ❤😉🙃😎 NZ
@deanedeane4318 You are right :) I think they overcooked. Because I wanted a longer test. But I always warn people that I'm no cook, so they know my skill level ! take care :D ❤️
Gives you an idea on how to survive cheaply. I would like to see a full setup of about 1500 watts. Phil.
@janicereadymartcher7696 Yes it's surprising what 37 bucks can do. Here is part of my solar equipment install for the solar workshop.
ruclips.net/video/OEPnwosBYE0/видео.html
I have not shown the main system installed in my house, maybe in the future I can record that
most of these inverters do work, but the biggest question is... for how long!
That is true, I am not sure how long it will last, time will tell
@@solarpoweredge if you use it conservatively at maybe half the rated capacity (300w), will it guarantee that it will last for a long time? too bad it's not pure sine wave though, 300w is more than enough for charging electronics like laptops and phones.
@peejae082004 I am looking for a cheap PSW inverter to compare, but my budget is quite low :)
300w limit should greatly extend the longevity - but the main concern is temperature. If we could guarantee the electronics stay around ~40C (better fan?) this is a quick and sure way to maximize lifecycle!
They say modified sinewave is ok for resistive loads
@viyusavery248 Right on! I plan to run modified inverters on any cookers or heaters in the future, while saving the more expensive inverters for computers and sensitive loads
For resistive loads any power source is good, no matter the waveform if it is an AC source, or a battery (DC).
The only case pure sine inverters are needed is induction motors or classic transformers. For all the rest of the loads, the modified sinus inverter will work fine. About "sensitive loads"...most of them use switching power supplies in our days. Such a supply has no need of pure sinus since it rectifies the input current into DC and then chops it in square pulses adjusting their duration in order to adjust the voltage at the output. This means that these power supplies are independent of the input wave shape and can work happily with pure DC.
Modified sinus inverters work on the same principal. So, no problem for the so called "sensitive loads" which is a marketing term only. Finally, we put a simple LC filter at the output of a modified sinus inverter, practically if we suppress the third harmonic content at the output, we can use the inverter for any load.
On the other hand it is a luxury to use pure sinus inverter for cooking or heating in general. It just doesn't make sense. A brutal rectangular inverter will do the job perfectly. A DC source like a battery will do the same...
A high power DC/DC converter (enough to drive the resistive loads) will work equally well...
Great information. I have several inverters, but have never tried cooking on my solar power. Where can I get one of those pots?
@harmonyaquarian9210 Hi! glad you liked this.... there is a link in the video description to the pot, or just search for it by name on walmart or amazon. (I can't put links in the chat)
@ Thanks. Found it.
@harmonyaquarian9210 Awesome. NP
Great video. You are running the battery at 0.25C not 4C 4C would be 800 amps!
@kevinoakes1870 Thank you :D I liked this inverter, hope it lasts.
PS sorry for the confusion, I meant C/4 or capacity divided by 4: 200/50=4 (but C/10 is the rate I normally try to stay with)
@@solarpoweredgethe lifepo4 is good and full a 1c 200ampere is fast and 0.25c is 50amper 12.8volt 640watt is ok
@@solarpoweredgeI don’t think your explanation of capacity makes sense!
@stefanocerna6504 Agreed, I love lifepo4 :) C/10 (20 amps) is the best rate for storage (energy) cells you can find more info on my blog. C/4 or 50 amps I would not do that long term, as it's not healthy for storage cells. that said, occasionally exceeding C/10 shouldn't have a big impact on cell longevity.
@Glocktard You are confusing Multiply with Divide! C/x is standard terminology, "/" (slash) means Divide.
The C/4 rate for this battery, as stated in the video, is 50 amps.
Capacity (C) / divided by 4 is 50.
But C/10 is a better rate, totally healthy for Lifepo4 storage cells. That's 20 amps with a 200ah battery (C/10 = 200/10 = 20amps)
I did not say "4C" 4*C, that would be 800 amps!
Hope that makes sense!
great video, good job!!
@virgilwalker683 Hi, thanks for your kind feedback!! take care :D 👍
Good to know. Thanks
@oscaranderson1822 Welcome! I love affordable solar options. Hope this inverter will survive my cooking methods :D
What’s the wattage of your cooker?
@dontknowbrian 600w - it's worth noting that the net power going into the inverter exceeds that (estimated ~89% efficiency)
Nice idea...just happen to have a 2300w invertor i have on my compact tractor..
@davidkarath6549 That's awesome. Mobile power comes in handy
ok but you never actual tested the VTOMAN Portable Power Station to do like soldering , rework station usage all day to be plug in , just wondering can you do that ??? i just need to know if it can handle it or not , because i like to cut my power bill in half lol
@HalifaxComputersRepair Based on the performance running other loads, I am 100% sure it will handle a rework station. You could have a solar panel outside and run a cable inside to power your system, would be a cool setup
600w = 5 amps or about 700 watts.
Square wave is fine for resistive loads.
Save the propane for emergencies.
@crazysquirrel9425 True! we can't make our own propane, but can charge batteries. I might even build a campfire before burning propane
i have a few of the 3 and 400 watt ones i bought or aquired over yrs but they had external fuses like cars have.. but when i bough the 100 ah lipo4 i sprung for a 1500 watt pure sine wave. slipped and blew fuses on it opened it up and removed fuses from inside i used frcuips to pull them and they fell apart. then looked in and positive connection to board has strands sticking out of the solder . fortunatly i took the 3 yr warrantee they refunded and bought one mant yt were buying and worked well but they should all have external fuses
@remocres Inverter repair sounds like lots of fun lol. I agree... we need external fuses, in fact I'd pay a bit extra for that, it's worth it
I would have liked to see the output on a scope
@VigilanceTech That's a good idea, I'll try it as soon as possible. Probably looks like a square wave with added peaks, or at least that's how the "modified" ones tend to look on the scope
Great value for a 600 watt'er! Great info. I just bought a previously owned 1100 watt"er ( looks mint) for exactly the same reason ... just to have in the war chest. I paid $40 CDN ... so almost free in $USD 😂. Did the same type of load test and it worked flawlessly even with the 8 AWG supplied leads. At 18" voltage drop is very small even at almost 90 amps but thicker would absolutely be better.
I did not expect to be impressed, but I should be more open minded about affordable inverters - this thing impressed me and survived. (Just hope it lasts though) ... you got a bargain on the 1100w, 40cdn is like $28, Nice job lol :D
You may not want to put in the effort for this low value inverter, but putting an IR camera on the unit while under heavy load does a great job of identifying hot spots (potential failure points) which sometimes can be easily remedied...ie poor connections /air flow etc. S
Obvious, but IR is done with cover removed and use some sort of external fan as without the shroud, cooling is compromised and you still want some level of air flow.
@Building_the_SHACK Superb advice. I've been offered IR cameras for review, but haven't been able to get to it. Maybe soon. and then this inverter will be one of the first "scientifc volunteers"
@Building_the_SHACK Right, removing the cover would affect the air flow. So maybe keep the cover on and take it off mid test and quickly take a scan of the components, then put it back on. Well that's my idea anyway :D
You'll be lucky to get even 6 months worth of use out of this high frequency, transformerless inverter. All high frequency inverters, even the much larger XP models offer shorter life expectancies. You should buy a low frequency, transformer based inverter instead.
@quickquote1568 This inverter certainly won't last forever, but for a standby/emergency solution I think it's OK. I have a LF inverter for normal daily use
Hmm, maybe you should also take a look to tataliken inverters. The are mostly pure sinewave wave (real) and not very expensive. Maybe not the greatest inverter but for the price it's i think! . Really nice to have! :)
@haajee1 Thanks for the tip, I'll check those out! A small PSW inverter option would be nice to have powering a computer in an emergency :D
Wouldn't 12 volt appliances be more efficient rather than converting with an inverter?
@CIVILDEFENSEBUNKER Yes they are more efficient, however there is no 12v version of this cooker / steamer and I want to use it. Perhaps in the future I can convert it to 12v or direct PV.
what is the case temp of the inverter?
@johnconrad5487 Around 37C and that was after running quite a while. I think the cooling setup is decent
89% efficiency isn't too bad.
@inyoudeep1 Especially for 37 bucks :D I try not to complain too much :)
Any thoughts on modifying one of the cheap quality square wave inverters with a Pure Sine Wave Inverter SPWM Board EGS002 EG8010 + IR2110 Driver Module?
I like to keep my eye out at the second hand shops for the older high quality jumper cables as well for the ideally 2 gauge, though what not. Seems the pure copper is becoming less and less a find. Even so.
I also wonder about the most cost effective ways to DC-DC convert higher voltage solar panels down to the 48V or lesser range so to save on copper. Parallel the cheap DC-DC converters so can handle higher current load?
@jafinch78 Hi, it's technically challenging but could work. The square inverter has many components sine inverters have too. There is no question we'd have to heavily modify the circuit board, maybe cut some traces, etc.
@jafinch78 Good idea, copper is so expensive now. I am looking for any new-old-stock cable spools of very large gauge wire. Hard to find around here
@jafinch78 Regarding parallel DC-DC converters: good thinking.... I've done something similar and it works. The trick seems to be balancing the two boards. But once they're balanced it works!
Can you make a video of how to connect this device to a battery and how to charge the battery from a solar panel without a smart card to regulate the charging? ❤😊
Hello, yes I have a couple of systems built that way, I will record a video for you as soon as humanly possible... hope it will be helpful! Take care :) ❤️
@solarpoweredge Hello Thank you That would be nice of you Do you have Instagram so I can contact you if I need to know something from you?
Welcome :) I don't use instagram or any chat programs, but you are welcome to chat me on here - at least that's the easiest way I have currently
Put a noctua fan in it
Makes a lot of air, and are very quiet
@sysierius But then I can't complain about the noise! Seriously, good idea, I have to check those fans out
What make and model is your multi meter?
@slickjimmy76 Hi it's a Gochifix the first version not the newer one. Shown here ruclips.net/video/RBoQZ_HWm70/видео.html
You should monitor the voltage drop on the inverter to see how fast or slow it gets back to voltage for sensitive equipment.
Also components can wear/break down prematurely due to stress of voltage drops that are too drastically.
@LawPope Good idea and good points. That Ampintv 1200w can run my video PC with no problems. But I have not checked the voltage regulation / reaction time, need to do that soon.
Thanks for the video. Your multimeter looks interesting, nice display. Can you tell me what the make/model #'s are?
@dough6393 Welcome! love that meter... just added a link to the description, sorry can't post web links in chat.... or search for Gochifix scopemeter
PS older video where I tested it ruclips.net/video/RBoQZ_HWm70/видео.html
@@solarpoweredge Thank you sir, just subscribed to your channel!
@dough6393 You are welcome sir, I appreciate the sub thank you very much :D 👍
Dont these modified wave inverter ruin Electronics ? Btw 1200 was peak power.
@chris_mk5supra Yes they do, so have to be careful what is plugged in. Resistive cooker, heater, light bulbs, they are OK.
The mosfets look too tiny for 100 amps, I wouldn't bother. Most inverters just double the normal rating as a standard marketing practice. However, I'm going to be reasonable and say this is a good inverter, because it didn't overheat and made 600w continuous. Not sure what would happen after 1 hour (vs 30m) maybe I'll try that next
@@solarpoweredge what about grounding with thise inverter? are they safe? i have one that i stoped using because people said it was dangerous and bad for electronics, maybe i could have some use for in in the end
I bought a very inexpensive one to do a test with a solar panel setup. I plugged in my Watt-meter and it gave me weird readings and then stopped working after like 10 seconds. Lets say the experiment stopped and it has been in a drawer since.
@chris_mk5supra The ground is floating on this inverter (most small inverters are the same), so in effect we can think of it as a standalone high voltage converter. The main thing to avoid is bad wiring (exposed conductors, damaged cords) and contact with water, other than that it should be as safe as any inverter to use. Some electronics and pretty much all AC induction motors can be damaged or affected by the square wave, so best to stick with a Sine inverter for those types of loads. Hope that helps
@Luke-san Yeah that's not cool... the wattmeter I used seems OK with square wave, however it is a fact that some electronics react poorly to it. Also the readout might be a bit inaccurate. Based on the input power W, the output readout seemed very reasonable. Maybe next time I'll try 2 different meters and compare the results
Where can I get that model at?
@itistrue5451 Hi, there is a website link posted in the description, below the video. Hope that helps, I cannot post the links here in chat
Ty for your time
@itistrue5451 Welcome :)
Gracias por un buen aporte 😊
@eduardojesuslopezfernandez1397 No hay problema! cuídate
i think all it matters is the longevity. I doubt it will last for long
@Vangeliss I have some very old and small inverters. One is square wave and over 15 years old. If I don't run this 600w to death 24x7, it should be fine! (Especially if I avoid surges and overheating)
If they have battery spring clamps, they're cheap...
@simonallan9941 Despite being cheap, I was impressed the both soldered and crimped the alligator clamps... don't think I've seen that before at this price
As long as it's a resistive load, your OK. Using a Modified Sine Wave Inverter with inductive loads, well let's say don't.
True! While I am curious about testing desktop computers and induction appliances on square wave (to see how they handle it) I don't want to risk it at all
@@solarpoweredge Be careful using a computer power supply. I think most have a capacitive ac input. That maybe OK.
@KA9DSL Interesting. Waiting until I have a computer for "test purposes". Right now, all of mine are too important to risk in lab tests..
@@solarpoweredge Your starting to sound like a cautious engineer.
Been there tried that with a pump , The inverter turned into a furnace ,would have used other words but YT not keen on it 😂
Fun to watch.
@WhatDadIsUpTo Glad to hear :) tried to keep it short :D
nicely done
@andrievbastichy8551 Thank you!! :D
Excellent review.
Those things have gotten so inexpensive!
@IntenseGrid Thanks :D I can't even make an inverter for that amount, especially considering the time (labor) involved! And if I did, it probably would't work...
I enjoyed the video!
Glad to hear it, means a lot - thank you :)
You correctly said that the wires are "soldered" instead of the usual "soddered". Where are you from?
@elelegidosf9707 My preferred way of pronouncing the word is in fact "soddered". However it seems to irk a lot of people, so I usually try to say "soldered". I'm from coastal south :D
@@solarpoweredge One has to adapt. For example, am a Brit living in the USA and I have to speak v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y and c-l-e-a-r-l-y so that the natives understand me.
I always heard the L was silent
@elelegidosf9707 Effective communication is an art!
@@VigilanceTech Hod my beer; I need to think about this.
Where I can buy it?
@JuanMartinezavalos-lt8uk Hi, a link is posted in the description - that is an affiliate link so I may get a small commission if you use it. But if you don't want to use it, can just search Amazon for: "600W Power Inverter" and it should be one of the top results. If you have any problem finding the inverter, please let me know. PS: I can't post links here in the chat
better get a 12v cook top much more efficent without all the jazz of a inverter
@Corgi_Repairs I made my own 12v cooktop:
ruclips.net/video/Vb4bkJ0AHtA/видео.html
And 12v ovens:
ruclips.net/video/hQQrRcwd6dg/видео.html
Cheap electronics thst won't last long. Buy two!, and learn how to fix and get spares for the mosfets or what ever goes wrong on the first one. It will probably overheat and take out some components. Put better cooling fan heat sinks on .
@yesihavereadit Thanks for the comment, good points. I thought this inverter stayed pretty cool, outside case reached 37C which isn't too bad.
use hybrid Inverter (aprox. 100$) you'll get an complete renewable energy managment system! It can work aogrid, parallel to grid or ofgrid.
@svendittmann3105 I hear ya! I don't have one yet but maybe I'll get one to test
I had one of these, different label, it would not even charge my laptop!!
@ewanbaxter9199 Through the AC or USB-C? did you try running anything else? I do know square wave is pretty dirty and some electronics don't want to run on it
Good story!
Thanks :D I tried to keep the video shorter so it wasn't too boring :D 👍
But I want something just the opposite, I want to plug into 120 volt outlet and run my 2000 lb atv winch............
@job38four10 It's possible to make a really rough DC power supply for this purpose... except I don't have a winch yet :D
Ya just missin the beef/chicken/lamb/pork/deer....
Good score.
@theo.k.corral6895 Right on, sounds very tasty. A little beef with the potatoes doesn't hurt anything
@@solarpoweredge - As you have a steamer, have you tried chicken steamed in fresh coconut? Black skinned chicken, if you can get it!
@christopherd.winnan8701 Making me hungry already... no I never tried it, but sounds delicious. Noted for future investigation, thanks lol :D
I have a couple of these cheeeeeeeeep Inverters
@raysoucie489 Excellent. I have 2 cheap msw inverters. The amazing part is, they still work but we'll see in a few more years lol
cook with induction, way more efficient
@erichertsens Can be true, although resistance appliances are far cheaper/simpler and don't need complex electronics. I plan to test an induction cooktop on this inverter out of curiosity, just to see what happens.
@@solarpoweredge Induction cooktops usually need 1500 watts in my experience, tried a modified 1k watt inverter on one myself and when turning up the cook top the inverter started to smoke during a heating cycle. Didnt beep, shutdown or anything just a bit of smoke, sorry dont recall the model other than it was yellow and black, not a dewalt though. Still works just thinking it asked too much from a modified 1k model. Pure sine 2k inverter worked fine, have a 1.5K pure model I should test as well once its not freezing cold outside.
cool!
:D 👍
Engagement.
Yay for engagement! :D
Quite sad that we all know now that half of the claims on consumer goods are a fat LIE !
About the MTBF of this converter, we'll know when it gives up when it gives up . . . . . . right? 😋
@taunteratwill1787 Yeah pretty much every low cost inverter just doubles the rated power for decorative purposes. Under a surge test they either burn or fail to deliver the rated amps. Good point about MTBF, we simply don't know... however I was very impressed the inverter could keep itself so cool. So I feel it has a good chance to survive my use case :D