Tony Parsons: There is No I and Nothing Ever Happens
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Interview with Tony Parsons, July 2019. Questions by Devasetu (Jetzt-TV, Tony Parsons interview02). Question: What ist the essence of what you are saying in your talks to the people who are coming to you?
Answer: The essence of the open secret communication is that it attemps to illuminate the nature of nonduality…
Q: What you understand by nonduality?
A: Nonduality is only a term, which points to that, which can‘t be known, which points to the everything and the nothing…
Q: And the people are only forms? …
A: … Many people in the world are sure or believe that they are real and that is a great dilemma. There is nothing that is real, everything is only an appearance.
Q: And this illusion has fallen away in your system?
A: Yes, only aparently, because it was never real, there wasn‘t a real something to fall away…
Q: This has happened at once or by and by.
A: It‘s timeless…it doesn‘t happen in time. ...
Q: Was there some cause?
A: No, there is no cause...it doesn‘t really happen, so it doesn‘t need a cause. …
Q: To be in your presence…
A: I don‘t have any precence, I don‘t have anything, there is no one …
Q: Can you give something to the people?
A: There is no I, there is nothing to give … there is only everything …
Q: In your talks... you are a kind of destroyer?
A: Absolutely. … I‘m known as a terminator. …
Q: If we talk about something it is always a story?
A: Yes. …
Q: What can you say to the sentence „Nothing ever happens.“
A: Absolutely. …
Q: This fullness has the character of love?
A: This fullness … is unconditional love … - and much more.
Love Is, that's all. No judgement, no 'me' trying to get, just the natural state of unconditional being/loving.
for no one
You words are simply to grasp thank you x
I wonder if you could tell me please what is non duality, or pointers that I may grasp in plain English x
Thank you Robert for your reply I wish yourself, family, and all a peace joyful easter
if SOMEONE is saying that there is NOONE..its obviously NONSENSE
'You can never find what you are looking for because you are looking for a something but what you are really looking for is everything'.
I love tony parsons...at first i found that for me its no acceptable live whitout a purpose but then i realize that there is no purpose at all in life, the purpose its for the me that invents everything that we "know" but the reality is that nothing exist whitout the socalled person and the story; cammon can you even imagine this planet whitout the humans? No god no heaven no hell no good no bad, perfect, everything is what it is ( aparently) because is only energy coming from nowhere and going back to nowhere. It's no the ultimate freedom? Thank you tony
S B B
I love tony because of his sense of humor.
“Nothing exists without the so-called person and the story.” Nothing exists anyway. But I agree that the person makes stuff appear to exist and animals dont. Whether thats good or bad is one of the most meaningless questions I can imagine
lol
You don't love Tony Parsons. There is no one.
To the interviewer: Thank you for doing this .... very authentic .... To Tony: I love you ... or however this goes ..... from no-one .... to no-one
From a duality perspective, this was a good interview. The moderator asked very engaging questions.
Advaitasoftie!
Tony Parsons is a rare real deal.
It is not short of astonishment that Tony Parsons was able to compress so elegantly in modern tongue the entire Sutra of unadulterated Buddhism.
Even though Great Britain as an empire has many a criminal repertoire in her shameful history, when he says there is nothing to teach, I knew immediately he was a genuine Buddha from England.
I'm going to give you some tough love. You're fucking retarded If you believed anything he said.
Tony Parsons isn't a rare real deal. As Tony Parsons said, Tony Parsons isn't real. There is no one.
There is no shameful history. There is no me.
@@karlskaret275 that's what Hitler would love to say
Almost identical to Buddha's emptiness. Nobody"s home. Except that our action is driven by thoughts that serve the body
No it isn't. Thoughts are just information about what apparently happens.
Apparently.
"(Life is) like a kaleidoscope without meaning"... What a freedom in there...
indeed !
Yeah but that is just a belief and what happens whwn it goes? Another video?
@@KaoticSheep9 bull's eye.
@@KaoticSheep9 Chill bro
Tony says, "all that is, is boundless energy." It may appear that way from a purported perspective within the framework of the seeming or apparent realm. Energy is vibration, it ebbs and flows, comes and goes, never stopping to be, never is it present. Presence, reality, that which is all there is of all there is, is not energy, as it is not frequent, it simply IS! Of course, words can't really do the job in this apparent scenario. What is All is utterly ineffable.
yeah yeah
Today i.e., 17th July 2024 at around 10pm metaphorically the lights switch off, and the understanding dawned, nothing ever happens. However, paradoxically for this individual body-mind things happen. Happening & time by large is limited to subjectivity which inherently & actively functions to verify and posit something is happening but from the one substance's perspective it is what it is, it is pure being without the notion of what it becomes, it simply is.
For water there are no waves, but for the limited human-individual-subjectivity there's waves, and the ocean.
Think of deep sleep which is unknowable, the ending of the apparent everything which is an illusion. Waking up is the illusion of the separate self, completely ordinary nothing special, and none of this actually happens.
why bother
One of the best!
Everything is attached to the idea of "I", that's the root thought. On realizing its falsehood, the illusion vanishes.
Yup ! I am one of this that says “WOW!” I’m blown away by this . Or the “ I “ is blown away …… literally!
In everything there is always room for something. And in non-duality there is duality. We are animated pieces of the no thing. The everything so vast that it is beyond description and happens for the reason of no reason. Why? Because. Why not.
We is a thought construct
Yet another reason to come together to keep our fears at bay. No one can teach anyone. What happens is the only truth. Fear is the only sure thing that leads me straight to my Greatness, because there is no other than "I Am".
Thank you
thank you Tony
This is what I’ve been looking for!
You found nothing.
@@ibperson7765 yes its not very impressive...
@@ibperson7765 I will check it out, thanks!
hahaha
Thank you for doing this interview! I so appreciated your openness and kindness in going into a "subject" that was beyond your experience (apparently:).
Can anyone explain me one thing pls….
How can i hear myself speak from within with my mouth shut… i am not making any noise but i can hear myself think and speak from within like we have inner ears you know ?
I'm a Buddha and I'm alright,
I Buddha all day,
and I Buddha all night.
Tony’s full sense of humor can be more fully experienced in his videos addressing the questions fielded from larger audiences. He finds his answers as baffling and as humorous as others do.
Instablaster.
Danke sehr gut.
Can someone explain what the purpose of these talks are? It's simple and simplistic all at once. On one level it's just a riddle whose answer is that there's no answer because this is all that there is. On the other level it's a rationality for accepting that you will be nothing when you die by saying that you're nothing now and never were anything. Of course the same reality can be described accurately in different ways depending on the perspective. I just don't get why people keep asking this guy questions based on his perspective when the answers are so predictable and simple. Why not go do something fun instead?
Because who would do something fun instead when there is no separate individual ‘you’ to do it?! That's the riddle. Its all just one thing. All wild free energy and part of the energy are bodies who are like natures automatic robots. But we think we have free will and choice to go and have fun. That's the illusion too. 😊
If I drink too much beer I get a hangover........apparently.
David Dibben it’s as if that last gin Tony had wasn’t even there, the tree was always in a state of falling, I and the tree are one.. Or er.. maybe that’s the Gin talking?
@@mirrorperson1744 Lol. There is no gin and no one to drink it!
Wow!! Exactly!! That is exactly what it is.
concepts are never the actual
@David Dibben If too much beer is apparently drunk, there´s an apparent feeling of "hangoverness".;)
Thank you. Xx
Everything that I am is coming from nothing. When you speak theres nothing that did it
Theres nothing but an appearance. But there isnt even an appearance of a you, the “I am” you mentioned. “You” are just an impersonal appearance like an apparent whirlpool in the river. It is just apparently the apparent river. It is not apparently a stand-alone thing. It is only apparently the river. So this “Everything that I am” is doubly non-existent and shouldnt be the start of a sentence.
Great! Loved the interview!
(that which cant be known) can be known only by not knowing! and you really dont know how much you dont know or even what is (not knowing) consciousness is singularity that (i) cant ever understand or know)))
Wow! Best ONE so far. 😌
Love it
Incredible 👏
wow, it's the grand High Priest of FUTILITY himself, tony parsons ! if there's nothing to do, nothing to get and nobody to know it, why does he bother to open is mouth at all ? what's the sensible response to hearing his message? never to give him even one more second of your attention? after hearing it once, why do people STILL waste their time chasing his wonderful message of Futilty?
Youre talking about nothing and no one is talking
Dan, he doesn't open his mouth because he is not the doer.
good money maker
Like the painting in the background!
Same, I would like to have that on my wall! :D
@@MikkoVille It is on your wall. It always has been and always will be. :D
he've just said it doesn't exist ha ha ha. And you and me either.
There is no " " to like the painting. There is only the appearance of liking a painting. FYI
the word "individual" contains the word "dual" 🤯
lieber Wolfram Umlauf____________________bitte warum setzt du keine Übersetzung darunter oder als synchron:Stimme--------------- mach`das BITTE
Ist ne Menge Arbeit...
Letztendlich wird eh nichts gesagt ;-)
Schau einfach Andreas Müller da wird das zu 90% auch gesagt.
It always puzzled me Tony and others like him fail to mention that there are two basic Realities or if they did, I missed it..! .......One is The Absolute Reality where nothing ever happens ,the other is the relative reality when everything happens....the problem for me starts when the one speaking is in the relative reality.......do they really know by experience of the Ultimate reality or are just pretending they know. ?
Papaji states in his book "The Truth is" "Nothing ever existed is the Ultimate Truth" which really made my headache....until the two realities were explained by an Adviata Monk...It depends on from which reality they are speaking from....but it must be genuine,how can we tell ,is it just yet another idea, another concept they are repeating from another mind ? this is dangerous another form of Dogma no better or different from all the others.
In a book, there is no real time. In a movie, there isn't. What noted "In the beginning..."?
What a clever way to rake in the money. Offer absolutely nothing and bank the proceeds.
The value of the incomprehensible is quite high!
This guy must be fun at funerals..
Omg I need to get him to one!
Funnily enough he probably is far more fun than the usual competition of folk trying not to show how devastated, angry or downright relieved they are at some supposed loved ones passing
When my nan was dying I was a mess, everyone else seemed to just be stunned that I would be so upset!
We’re all little programmed robots I’m afraid
gut, erinnert zu werden ....
Hi Tony, listening to you amplifies the suffering. What are you talking about?
Om nama Shivaya
POV: You’ve just been told you’re a brain in a vat, and the life you thought you knew was a lie.
If nothing has any meaning then why the manifestations in the first place. The evolutionary road to life, let alone intelligent life, is a complicated process and all manifestations (be they apparent or not) are bound by apparent laws of physics which implies apparent purpose. This boundless energy he speaks of is apparently bound by its own laws in the space of its own manifestations and are not random acts of a maverick nothing........for what if it has no purpose or meaning?
That does not sound like the voice of the True Self.
“At the first level on the path, he saw mountains as mountains and rivers as rivers. On the second level of the path, he saw that mountains are not mountains and rivers are not rivers. And at a third level, he saw once again mountains were mountains and rivers were rivers.”
That all sounds like spiritual bypassing, and I am unsure that the seeker here sees the mountains and the rivers once again, it is instead quite lost in the formless.
I think there is a form of awakening here (which is a simple natural process once the illusion of the ego is realised) but the embodiment of the vision and the true awakening of the heart does not seem to have happened yet, the human being has been left behind, after all its good service to the cause of consciousness :)
Neo-Advaita as generally understood in the west is, without a cautious approach, a dangerous one way ticket to nihilism. After being completely absorbed with our egos it is easy to completely go the other way and completely reject anything which has to do with the form and the substance but that is still duality.
Awakening is not a major station in the evolution of consciousness on this planet, embodiment is, the spirit made flesh as it's been described.
Well said. Ramana spoke about false liberation which few ever comes out of. Neo advaita seems to fit that description.
Bla bla bla
Problem is with everything you’ve written is that it’s just a theory or a story just like anything else. You don’t know objective reality you just claim to, whereas in neo-advaita the claim is that no one knows objective reality. Why would the “voice of the true self” sound like a particular way? It’s due to what you’ve learned and what your particular spiritual practice is. Also you’re taking what tony has said here as prescriptive, as an instruction. It’s not saying everything is meaningless therefore go do something, it’s saying everything is unfolding.
@@augmentedphallus4596 aren’t theories and stories coming from that little noisy place we call the mind? Regarding my spiritual practise I have none I don’t separate the visible from the invisible and never did. Regarding my experience of reality you make a lot of statements :) in the end whatever works for you is good.
You say you don’t have stories, and that all stories come from the mind, which was my point about your initial comment. Your initial comment is a story about “true self” and paths. Neo-advaita says this is all a story. I’m not sure I believe it, but it’s interesting to consider.
Great interview and great interviewer! Excellent questions and active listening. Thank you so much!
@Ekai Om I agree, some of the questions were really good! Not only obsessed with the apparent me as is the case with questions that are usually asked.:)
Good point. Interviewer was so good that I didnt notice how good he was until your comment. He was.
Chuang-Tse and Lao-Tse are recommended readings in this case.
Non-duality.Nihilism as a crispy creme doughnut :-)
8:15 interviewer: so the seeking ends when the seeker is no more? parsons: and never was
@No you What do u mean?
Beam Machine Beam Machine Apparently someone named “No” asked you a question, and since deleted it. Because I see a response from you here “@No What do you mean?”
I saw you replying to no one and no comment asking what he meant. Perfect analogy for the seeker. Seeking meaning lol. Even his (non) name being “No”, haha.
What does happen mean? Maybe happens means something different because I'm seeing things happen right in front of me, right now
Fnally smething from Tony, its been a while and i been fuckin missing him. He has a responsibility, to Meeee😂😂😂😂😂 please send more videos❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏
This may be depersonalization/derealization or dissociative disorder that happened to a person who is involved with non-duality teachings and then interprets it as this radical nonduality. 🤷 who knows
What you call the realization your head is foreign to you?
Crikey, is this guy still earning from this semantic confusion? I suppose it is a timeless message though there is only the apparency of things changing to no-one nowhere, now. Because ultimately there's only now but yet even that is only an apparency to no-one, nowhere, everything is perfect to no-one.
🤣
LOL, it's a MYSTERY!
Tony Parsons and his clone Jim Newman seem to me to be presenting nothing more than half-baked sophistry and semantics. I'm not convinced that either has a true experiential understanding of advaita. It sounds like a mere repetition of non-duality catchphrases that any slick presenter could piece together from books or youtube videos.
D. Nielsen I mostly agree with you. That is, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here. But there is something to their style of speaking and answering that breaks down one’s concepts and allows (some) truth to shine through. It’s not the full truth, and it stops short of Self-Realization, or whatever other name we might call it. But there is some value to it. I definitely agree that their experiential understanding is limited, though.
D.Nielsen the "I" that isn't convinced is a concept.concepts dont point to anything inherently real;
What if your doubts are wrong?
@@mikem3779 The Absolute, or Reality, is regarded as having for sentient beings two aspects. The only aspect perceptible to the unenlightened is the one in which individual phenomena have a separate though purely transitory existence within the limits of space-time. The other aspect is spaceless and timeless; moreover all opposites, all distinctions and 'entities' of every kind, are here seen to be One. Yet neither is this second aspect, alone, the highest fruit of Enlightenment, as many contemplatives suppose; it is only when both aspects are perceived and reconciled that the beholder may be regarded as truly Enlightened. Yet, from that moment, he ceases to be the beholder, for he is conscious of no division between beholding and beheld. This leads to further paradoxes, unless the use of words is abandoned altogether. John Blofeld (in his Translator's Introduction to Huang Po).
@@pumpkini586 would it matter?:)
Not easy to interview Tony 😂
Infinity has no agenda.
Please,please watch the interview with Ian McNay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andreas … Thank you so much for your tip. I listened yo 2 parts already.. going through 3 rd. Stopped … just to Thank you sincerely..! 🙏 Will go through the rest now..! 🙏
Non-Duality or as Tony says it 'Non-Joo-allity' is enjoying a wide audience these days!
a self-negation paradox is a logical impossibility
subject precedes object of negation. the Subject remains
Subject without object? A logical impossibility.
Subject and object, appear only in dream and waking state, not in deepsleep!
Same with consciousness.
So subject and object, clearly come and go, together.
The experience of deep sleep is known, the coming and going of consciousness is also known because the subject being no-thing cannot come and go, it IS.
@@anoistime2297 But who knows all that?
@@hermansohier7643 Who? is asking.
@@anoistime2297 What i mean is that theres no way you can talk about this,it's not even this.
Is life making the thoughts too? Is life happening causing the me feeling?
Yes. Thinking is the result of the lie I am. All thoughts are bs.
@@ibperson7765 thoughts just come, this is the way your mind makes your body do things. The important thing is to not value the thoughts and make it more than it is. the thought is the thought and nothing more. but yes you could say that without a ego there cant be thoughts.
Thoughts are happening, apparently, to no one and for no one.
@@dannick6076 Thoughts are not necessary for action. Not conscious thought anyway, not anything we normally think of as thought. I acknowledge there must be brain activity of some kind when the body is doing, but I have had periods of activity in a state of pure, non-dual immediacy without a thought in my head. Im not alone. I recall reading this before. Subjective raw experience without thought. And that is what I would call thought, subjective first-person experience. Just one example is Krishnmurti talking about three-hour walks through the woods without a single thought the whole time.
leider nicht in DEUTSCH:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.ist das so schwer zu machen oder will er das nicht ? mega schade
Fun to watch, even though I don’t get it
I just find this guy to be a smug unhelpful pain.
There is a self. And it's able to make decisions and can improve. People are real. Free will exists and things are happening.
Great. Then why waste your time commenting on non duality videos?
@@imransuhail82 So people don't fall down the same delusional rabbit hole I did.
@@FootyFrenzyHD can you elaborate on this rabbit hole you fell down? I'm interested in hearing your story, if you're willing to share.
@@versoturner5777 I got severe psychosis, disassociation and was on the verge of suicide because of these so called "teachings" Because i embodied what they said and that's where it goes if you take it seriously and embody what is said . Nonduality is clearly a complete spiritual bypass game. Just listen to what is being said by these so called "non dual" teachers You hear the same phrases parroted such as "everything is happening by itself" with "no doer" "people aren't real" "nothing is happening" "free will is an illusion" and "all pain and suffering is love" like seriously? This is clearly spiritual bypassing. Non duality it's a warped cult that brainwashes people using repetitive indoctrination ( in the form of the nondual phrases i mentioned] into accepting a very nihilistic metaphysical dogma. Ironically this so called "nonduality" is the most dualistic thing you can do. As soon as i realised how delusional i had gotten from these teachings my life got exponentially better. But had i continued down the "path" i'd be dead.
everything you said can be proved wrong so easily, you’re just compulsively reassuring yourself bcs you’re afraid to sit in a place that strips away your sense of control.
Fabulous, you are not what you imagine to be, and you cannot do anything to change that! Then, get depressed if you are realistic, or go through three more decades of naivety, waiting for "it" happens to you, and when you see that it does not happen yet and it is not going to happen at all, feel like a shit. Really dangerous thinking covered by misticism. And even more, Who knows this guy has the truth?
@@wiard Yes and you are going to say this things to yourself and nothing is going to happen!! Or you think that you are going to be part of the 1% of the humanity that "gets it". In the meantime you are not in one side nor in the other, and you feel powerless!
you're overthinking it, thus, missing the most simple and obvious thing.
@@eyeeye7356 Really, can you stay with that obvious thing or is only an illusion? Just be honest with you. There is a lot of people looking for that obvious thing, no one get it and life is short. Stay dreaming until you feel upset.
again, thinking yourself away from the simplicity of the present moment. It's just bla bla, constant inner dialogue, comparisons, conclusions... it's just bla bla... the obvious is beyond bla bla
@@eyeeye7356 Keep dreaming!
But who knows that there are others ,and that these others all believe in the illusion?
headless.org
The person is an IMAGE in that which has no description.
@@FirstPersonHood When the head is gone,as Douglas Harding said,things get done without any effort ,the conceptual thinking is left out of the game .
@@hermansohier7643 exactly
the mind free of conditions, which is useful in that respect...
That ego - non-ego dance is so pointless. Isn't Wholeness incomplete without genuine experience of being separate, and striving to reunite (or not?)? This whole notion of self and form being 'unreal' seems largely confused, and a good way to keep disciples coming - the preached enlightenment is unattainable by definition.
I would like to add subtitles in Hebrew to this video please
Correct, but painfully unhelpful. It is an in-retrospect and subjective view of non duality. There are known processes that can invite these insights to arise and allow the sense of individuality to be systematically eroded. Otherwise this would all be a hopeless "pursuit". What this is, is the result of integration of different levels of the mind, which once consolidated stops looking for itself.
But yes, there are personality differences, which is what the interviewer was asking.
But they are not real. So, no.
Only apparently, and only apparently if by personality you dont include an apparent source or center or unconditionality as an apparent part of it. So overall Id say there are no personality differences unless you add qualifications.
@@yoso585 Is your body real? Your body doesn't look like my body.
@@ibperson7765 Actually, you need to add qualifications to say there are no personality differences, which is what you just did. Is you body different than mine? To add the qualifier apparently adds nothing to the discussion other than to get us to question the apparent realness of the ego-center which is very different from personality and body differences which are real. The only unreal thing is the ego-center.
Testa Yes the ego-center, the existence of a separate me apart from all that is, is particularly unreal - totally fake in fact, just made of thoughts and images. Everything else in the phenomenal world has an unreality to it also, but not as totally fake and totally unreal as the imagined separate self. Everything is created by awareness through the uber-limiting filters of the mind. Time, space, objects, your body... they all are less real and more created than you think. There is a very real way in which even time doesnt exist, is a construct, the eternal one beyond space and time knows
i think the notion of time is very important. He says there is no real time, only appearance. My notion is different.
We live here to resolve time distortions (in this planet and this system solar). This time distortions put us in differents bubble of times that leads us to feel as separate individuals while it's just thoughts , not natural conscius impressions of truth. Time is biologycal and psychological, but the psychology is manipulated by powerfulls entitys on this special planet because it's the price of the universe (it's a galactic seed planet, she has 200 womb chakras that's unique in the all universe, habitually the most is 4 womb chakras). You stop the psychology, the idea of i you resolve a knot due to time. I is a state, a signature frequency of existing reality and not a fixed identity. It can take itself for a form, but is not limited to this concept of form. In fact form is a great vehicule, and we can dance the changing of forms. the time of our cloks is artificial, a social convention that has no living universal truth behind it, a manipulation of our mind, as is the patriarchy and other things.
Where did i found this notions?
Listening to Andrew Bartzis, the galactic historian.
i like to listen people like him (tony parsons) because he make me feel things. Andrew Bartzis will lead you deep and precisely into understanding,
Time does not exist, it is just an agreed upon falsehood like space. Plenty of ''primitive'' tribes do not know what the falsehood called time is
Nice story you created there lol
I have often wondered how much of this kind of talk (and I don't just mean Tony - there are plenty that parrot this) is deliberate obfuscation or does it arise from a genuine incapacity to be of any real help?
I think most would find these non dual sermons quite paralysing.
For anyone that is lost or confused after having listened to this or similar :
It is true that very little can be said that's of any real help.
Understanding, spiritual or intellectual, is not the key. (it may be a hindrance)
What you are looking to do is taste/grok the actual reality of yourself directly just for a nanosecond.
If you are a seeker then SEEK.. really
I mean really TRY with all your heart to get a direct taste of the "feeling" of yourself
Take this seeking energy and turn it back upon itself to find its source (the actual REALITY of that (not some intellectual understanding)
What am I? Really
What does it feel like to be here?
What is that.. to be "here"
You know you are here? Right?
You can't deny it?
Now what is it that makes that impossible? (to deny you are here)..
Go there with your attention
At some point you will get a conscious glimpse
At that point you are basically done..
You now know where to "look"
The glimpses will keep happening until all fear misery dissatisfaction, the whole feeling of trying to get something, the search itself come to an end.
What you are left with is what you have always wanted -your like exactly as it is (minus the fear and it's effects) - very ordinary and at the same time a gift beyond description.
who needs help?
@Icy_cool , you will understand it. can not be talked about it. Just pay attention.
@Icy_cool you realise there is no inherent self when you realise there is no inherent self to realise it.
@Icy_cool more like ,you are awareness,not a person with awareness
@Icy_cool "Only knowledge that brings an awareness in seperation"could you explain that a bit?
There are still fragments of the ego left in Tony. He is unaware of this in my opinion.
There is certainly a character there, quite a funny guy. Isn’t the egoless persona of some equally questionable though ?
@Mitchell Geisen The tiresome I have no ego ego.
I "feel" his ego, unlike eckhart tolle. It could be because I have an ego and he is poking it or something, but it does seem he has an ego and gets annoyed
It's as though he is trying to get something. Yet he is teaching that there is nothing to get.
@davidofhalifax, it's so sweet of him to apparently help apparent people when there is no help for no one 😉
After the sense of separation evaporated, you would have no resentment and trauma and alike?
so do we realize all this he's talking about when we die?
Who is the you?
Death is an image to that which can't be described
I think so.
Nothing was ever born 💞
So fucking hard, toomuch suffering
GREAT VIDEO.. so we not persons, and who we are in non duality world ? souls ? energy ? what is definition ?
no one can define non-duality its unknowable.
Maybe...God ;)
@@robertjsmith Non-Duality: noun (concept), that which has no definition and is unknowable.
But how is there no Freewill when he also said everything is spontaneous and not predetermined?
don't bother trying to work it out go for a walk instead
@@chrisbusby4395 Haha, yea I suppose but only if I can will it!
Anyone know how to get some questions answered regarding this? I tried emailing via his open secret page but wouldn't allow me to.
So I just have to suffer from severe panic attacks, fear, insomnia etc am I! Plus you don't even know what I want to ask! What are you going on about, have you not listened to Tony's meetings? If my asking a question is pointless then what is he doing holding these meetings for people to ASK QUESTIONS. I have studied non duality for 5-6 years so I'm not some newbie who is here to ask stupid questions and I don't really appreciate your comment when you have no idea about what I want answered. So I suggest you think before you post anything! I'm interested if you are the person to whom I emailed and got no response from. 😡
@@AntiSocialBlackMetalWhore Tony and other 'gurus' like him won't offer free responses; they have a comfortable established business of... selling words [as you can see on Tony's website for instance]. But getting to your problems- it looks like indeed, you'd just have to suffer those things you mention; however, what you can do is change your views on what that 'suffering' is and on who the one who suffer is. I am not sure how Tony's or anybody's concepts would erase your problems. Words can indicate but not describe; there are words and words- those who create more questions-responses with no end in sight and words that have an impact after they are gone [as they say 'the finger pointing at the moon is not the moon'- the looking is yours but be careful to not confuse the pointer with the pointed...] While those physical problems may continue suffering does not have to be the same or does not have to be at all. The space here is not adequate for elaboration- I suggest go on Quora- there are quite a few people there who are happy to provide their pointers on people's problems, free of charge. Good luck!
@@rostrinn2845 so this is your experience with quora pointers- you had a toothache and they didn't fix it? Well, has it ever occurred to you trying a dentist for that?
@@rostrinn2845 finally?! what do you mean- i just started...
You hear gibberish because your mind is tuned to gibberish and nonsense. [I didn't say anything about trying to put into words what cannot be put into words]
Language is a tool appropriate for communication- tell doctor Rostrinn your problems and he'll give you more words back and a few drugs to fix you [for a little while... and then you got to go back for more...]
Words don't matter, what matters is their impact after they are gone. Reality is not a matter of language and will fix nothing for you. For fixing there are 'scientific fixers' ready to prescribe band aids to any suffering [because this is all they know and do], even to the fear of death ...
@@rostrinn2845 A 'well oiled' body and mind or a 'rusty' one make no difference in understanding life. Scalpel and drugs can't do that for you [not everything is a nail because you only have a hammer...], you have to do it yourself. Doctors with all their science are impotent in telling you you what you are. This kind of 'something sever' is not the same as a broken bone. For a broken bone you go to the doctors; for a broken heart there is philosophy [that offers pointers towards the inner, not the outer].
I thought that was easy to figure out...
At first I thought the speaker has a "I" and the video had a message. Then I watched a bit and now I am very relieved, the man who is speaking has no "I" , the video has no message and it has nothing to do with truth. So it meets all the criteria of real comedy.
But one question remains then, if the man has no I, then who speaks there? Possibly the brother of Commander Data? Nevertheless misterious, Commander Data is a machine and the one sitting there looks like a person to confuse. Well, without an "I" the transition might be fluid.
headless.org will explain your confusion
@@FirstPersonHood Thank you, on headless.org i found an "I" which is called "true I" there and i assume that it has nothing to do with "Ego", "thinking", or even any kind of identification but on top of this i hope it has something to do with the "Alpha and Omega I" in each person. Because that is what we are, not only eternal being but at the same time an "I" who is to develop into a cosmic "I". Thus comes to the vertical axis of being the horizontal axis which is the time axis (time in the sense before and after, not measured). In other words God develops himself and he would find it a pity if we got stuck in an ancient consciousness which can be experienced by today's human being in a very short moment in orgasm. No the truth is about 40cm further up in the body and means "heart". Here exactly there where vertical and horizontal meets you can find this "true i". Some also call it "Christ".
Search up rupert spira on real experiential knowledge on non duality. Preferably suffering and neo advaita video to understand this mechanical teaching of non duality isn't it.
@@IsaiahMolina37 Tony Parsons is speaking from realization and refusing to allow the individual to play the game of other. His message leaves you where you never left.
yes
Always came across a bit smug for my liking.
How can there be nothing and no words to explain nothing
Because it is a story only, suoerimposed on what is only.
Ok an Illusion
Thats the typical neo advaita bullshit. No talk about qualifications, no talk about karma yoga, no knowledge about nonduality at all. Nondual simply means no separation between subject and object. So he simply talks nonsense, and everybody thinks there must be something profund...he jumps into jana yoga and the last stages of vedanta, without knowing anything about the system at all. Vedanta is not only nonduality, its it also about duality and the knowledge about objects and the field of existence, how to take care of the doer leading to freedom from the doer. Sitting there with a body, saying there is no one is wrong. There is someone and you experiencing it. To say there is no one while the experience of someone is there is mindfuck. Its like sitting on a chair while saying there is no chair. The chair is not real, the wood is real, the chair is dependend real, depending on wood. But there is no knowledge about sathya and mithya at all. No teaching, no knowledge, so nobody gets freedom from that confused neo advaita talks.
why too much suffering 为什么这么多苦难
The echo of Tony’s voice 😕
so wolfram have you figured out or more (LOL!!) accurately not know what isn't!
😄😄everything is only an appearance, of no- thing, nothing😃😄
Basically non duality seems to be a state where you speak mumbo jumbo in such a complex way that it seems you are saying something meaningful or helpful when you are just laughing at people for believing in people
nope..if the teacher cant chat about the *real I* then he/she doesnt know what reality is
While I agree with most of what he is saying, he doesn't seem to be a good teacher. People go to him for advice on how to "get to" the enlightened state, yet he doesn't give them much knowledge or direction. No meditation or sitting in silence? I'll stick with going to Adyashanti retreats :)
Gary Deyter The whole point is that there’s nowhere to “get to”! Adyashanti has a lot of great stuff but it feels that he keeps people on the seeking path, looking for something that already is. Of course There’s not it wrong with that or going to his retreats, it is what it is :)
@@pumpkini586 yeah there's no one to get to anything. But this type of teaching doesn't help those who can't get that point. A teacher needs to meet his/her students at the level they are at. Tony's comments will ring true to some people. Great. Most however are stuck in illusion and his "teachings" won't have a strong impact. Tony's books however are beautiful.
Gary Deyter The teaching isn’t meant to help “anyone”. Everything is already perfect, even illusions and ignorance.
Who is it that can’t get the point? Who is it that needs help and is stuck?
Cooper Roberts That which appears to be confused (or is playing a game of hide and seek of sorts). So that It wakes up to its reality or “finds/realizes” what It truly is. Illusions need to be looked at and seen as unreal. The seeker needs to realize it is searching for what it already is, which is everything. These people can’t see reality and need pointers to it, which is what teachers give. Parson seems to dismiss the seeker as nonexistent, which it is, but how does that help people who can’t see through the illusion of personhood?
Gary Deyter Why do they need pointers or help? What’s wrong with living in illusion? The nondual world seems to believe that being unenlightened is less preferable to being enlightened. But that’s impossible because an “unenlightened person” living in ignorance is absolutely perfect as is...see what I’m sayin?
Nihilism at its best with a very poor level of practical wisdom. If Tony had the choice to sleep either on a bed of nails or a comfy bed which one would he choose? We can guess. Pain is real enough, even when "nothing is real"!
Another little comment not related to Tony, as I don’t know him personally but I am always amazed to see that so many individuals who are still struggling to stabilise their human personality, with a very poor level of individuation / individualisation and general cohesiveness of their energies are so desperately trying to “awaken”. As if awakening was going to solve all their already existing psychological disorders. That’s probably why we end up up with so many confused and confusing self appointed “spiritual teachers?”. Nowadays I am mainly relying on my dog to get back to what really matters.
@@wiard spot on
who cares?
body naturally moves towards pleasure and comfort. big deal.
@@eyeeye7356 Exactly, I rest my case, this experience is real enough to trigger spontaneous and real inclinations.
@@calwendreamkeeper3556 nothing is real. but this is impossible to grasp for a personalized entity.
I agree with everything Tony Parsons says except that it must be able to be known because you are non-duality it can't be known by the mind-body or personality, and everything simply Rises just as it does it is non-duality being any given thing or non thing pairing just the way it does. There's no one who knows and yet you are non-dual Shining as what appears always and what more specific can appearance be then the central figure that protects the universe through its own senses and opinions beliefs Concepts or rather judgments, !?nothing's happening, exactly the way it appears. We could call it life, or a dream but we should probably do that within the context of what is obviously occurring, apparently, in the moment. The words that that is a dualistic way of seeing things can occur!. But whoever would say it would be, either living in a conceptual framework and judgmental teaching based on their own interpretation or spontaneously speaking from the present moment in which non-duality, rains! I don't want to be clever. And yet I'm doing the certainty of anyone is apparently, simply what arises! I want to admit that there's a problem in that I'm not able to dictate my words properly. Every time I turn around these words are being scrambled after I say them and review them I can only get a couple words out at a time. It's just strange thing that happened, from time to time, I apologize for the inconvenience. I'm willing to clarify my statements if need be. Otherwise oh, I absolutely love Tony Parson videos hahaha
Only don't know ( the seeker the i didn't like this book title but apparently true )
1 Beyond etc. -beyond the relative world which is a mixture of existence and non-existence. The world is said to be existent as it is perceived in ordinary consciousness, but to be non-existent as it is lost in super-consciousness. Knowing the nature of the world, the man of Knowledge is quite unconcerned with it. ASTAVAKRA SAMHITA
i didn't mean to write my comment below four times, and can't delate it
You are an amateur philosopher, Tony. Not any of Your concepts is developed at the smallest scale. Learn a bit negative theology for that You know a bit more what You are talking about.
Haha there is no tony
What a phony and con artist. He says this does not have a cause yet charges those gullible people money to cause a "destruction or deconstruction" in them lol