2017 Lexus NX 300h Hybrid Takes on The Gold Mine Hill Off-Road Review
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The NX300h did surprisingly well considering it's main purpose is not to go off-road and it's a hybrid. Add to that the eye opening fuel efficiency and it looks like Lexus really did their homework on powertrain and chassis.
i know it is pretty randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to watch new tv shows online?
Yeah, my mom has the NX 200. It's a good daily driver and good at hauling big screen TV's and what not but it is no offroad truck. The entire reason for this category is that almost nobody was taking their SUV's offroading.
Not quite right, remember a lot of people lives in regions with all 4 seasons.
We bought it because of snow in the winter and here in the Black Forest GER there are still a lot of dirt roads, so its necessary a car with some off-road capabilities.
We wanted this time, also a little bit of luxury, love the interior and exterior design of the Lexus.
And off course, the brand is well know of durability.
Honda is also a good choice, no argue.
Thanks for the video! I really enjoy Gold Mine Hill.
This car is meant for the asphalt trails only. That's where it'll be happy.
Mitsu. still calls their Outlander PHEV S-AWC and it has open diff.'s on both axles.
I go there all the time in my stock xj and it has no problems in 2wd on those obstacles lol
It looked like a traction control issue, not tire issue. It was spinning one front and one rear. If the traction control is working, it'll apply breaks on the spinning wheels to get torque to the wheels that are actually carrying some weight. Traction control should have been on, not off.
It will be interesting to see how this Lexus holds up.
"except for the grill. The grill is a little bit in your face" hahaha just wait for the next generation, Nathan 🤣
i would bet that its the absence of electronic locking differential imitation and not the tires primarily. its common Toyota problem with the current small platform which should be in line for revision in few years.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! That's exactly it, it's doing the one wheel peel.
Keep it up.... so few channels now test trail capability. Even a little bit.
I suspect the RAV4 hybrid would perform slightly better if fitted with the same tires since its lighter with the same powertrain? And the RAV4 gas only AWD might do even better with the diff lock? Wonder if you could do that comparison on gold mine hill sometime :)
Can you do a video of the Lexus RX450H taking on the gold mine hill?
Personally I'm not sure Hybrids are really meant for much more than light to moderate snow. I would like to be wrong on that though. I've been wondering why not a hybrid with a driveshaft fixed to where when needed both the gas and electric can power all wheels?Or at least whatever wheel needs the power. While Nathan is probably right about the tires,I wonder if more power to one of the other wheel's would have helped.
It seems to be the case with all these car based crossovers that off-road performance is hugely dependent on the tires. Throw on some tires with good snow performance and this Lexus would do anything its owners would be likely to ask of it. I'm actually fairly impressed that it did as well as it did on this trail.
It has nothing to do with tires. Here, the traction control seems to be inexistent.
Traction control and proper throttle application would have made that obstacle look much easier.
Lexus rules!
Please do the Mitsubishi Outlander with S-AWC (not the Sport)
Request proper tires for test terrain.
Would like to see it do the same run with trac control engaged. After all thats what its for...
What's the ground clearance and approach angle? Seems a lot for its class just by looking at it.
@@richrox712 Exactly 😂
why doesnt toyota use their FWD differential, which is a limited slip one, in their AWD models?
Great information on the test for a another station wagon on steroids, "crossover".
+The Fast Lane Car Got to disagree with you Nathan. It's obvious that the tires weren't the issue. The LF and RR tires were off the ground and the car didn't send power to the other tires properly. If a system isn't working just say it.
Savage! Brutes!
*High Five*!
Hopefully the 2020 will have lockers.
Why did you say that you don't blame the traction control. Traction control would ideally use the brake on the spinning tire and therefore giving power to the opposite wheel of the axle, which in this case didn't happen at all, and the vehicle couldn't move forward. I mean ok it is not the kind of vehicle that is going to see a trail ever but still if we are talking traction control it is kind of a fail as the same situation could arise on an icy road.
Plus the fact that it is a hybrid I think kind of helps its case as it hasn't got to deal with the same problem on a center diff, when the electric motor is used power goes to the front and the rear period, so I think if the TC would be just a bit better it would do quite well just by having to manage the side to side movements of the power, but it doesn't...
PS I really really like the nx300h and would definitely own one, not hating here.
TC isnt replacement for limited slip it cuts the power first then pulses brakes which wont help in this case. Lexus FWD based SUVs have pathetic AWD systems, transfer case doesnt lock, it maybe sens 25% of TQ to the rear
NIGHTMAREuki there are traction control systems that use the brakes not only to cut the power to the spinning wheel, but to send power to the other wheel as well (systems exactly like the ones used in modern jeeps with no lockers, such as the base wrangler, and SUVs like the Range Rover), that is the problem here that the system only tries (and fails at that too) to stop a wheel from spinning, not to transfer any power.
That's actually called EBD, or electronic brake distribution. It had other names too, but it's not just traction control. Still, it should have it.
EBD is during braking only, based on the load of the car will apply more brakes to the rear if there is more weight in the car. has nothing to do with AWD or slipping or traction control
Rafael, what you're talking about is torque vectoring. and brake based systems generally suck. because ABS modules can only pulsate and not apply variable pressure to spinning wheels
I don't understand why this test was conducted with traction control off.
95% owners will never ever take this car off road. I do understand it's a test and with the right tires, the car probably would made it up that hill.
those are the right tires, regardless the AWD is horrible. you want a Wrangle tires on a crossover? the Tiguan, the X3 passed this test instantly, Toyota rav4, Mazda CX3, Honda hrv,Lexus Nx and Hyundai all failed even with multiple tries.
Also that lexus interior. Is it reeeally worth it? Is the normal one that bad? :o
when is the 2018 model comes out for sale? the current design is not appealing at all
Can u guys do a x3 or x5 with no m sport with out the m sport it has more ground clearance
all Germans cars would pass the test, they have real AWD, they don't cheap out like Asian cars(except subaru)
do the Dodge Journey SXT next
You should use a lexus NX200t f-sport.
question is does it worth 50k ? I'm kinda between buying Lexus NX 300 f sport 48k and 2019 rav4 xse hybrid 33k
kerem have you driven a 2019 RAV4 yet. I was decided between the same two vehicles. There are no 2019 RAV4 hybrids available to drive yet but I was seriously disappointed with the limited model I drove. It was super buzzy and noisy inside to me. I have a 2018 Camry XSE V6 and was rooting for the RAV4 to be a good replacement for my wife’s 2016 Sienna SE. But after driving both we just ordered a 2019 Ultrasonic Blue Mica NX300 F-sport. It just drove so much nicer, yes it’s more expensive but it so much more car in my opinion.
Problems with electric vehicles are that they don't offer or incorporate low-range into design which is possible, but won't do it for weight and over-complication issues. All electric wheel ration is oriented for hard surface, but for off-road, even for electric driven wheels, needs to lower gears for smooth-torque movements.
symmetry08 Oh god I wouldn't want to work on a hybrid awd and turbo crossover
If you cant drive, don't blame the car. Come to South Africa I will book you a proper off-road training
The reason the lexus NX300H is not going up the traction control system is off so the vehicle can't get traction. I go in worst places the that with my electric vehicle all i do i turn on the traction control system
Hey Nathan, remember whenever i said go drive a minivan?
Drive a minivan up gold mine hill. Raging 260-280hp and AWD and fat van body. Dooo iiitt.
it has solid axles right lol
6:25 Wrong Nathan. Traction control is the only one to blame. No tire will have grip when it's in the air. Traction control should kick in and brake the wheel that's spinning.
sic22l Agreed but it also needs to transfer that torque to any wheels that still have traction.
That's what would happen after braking one wheel - open diff would send power to the other one.
I love Hybrid cars Lexus super,
This have to do more about not having the right tires than the vehicle this car will perform in snow great specially if it have snow tires
Ye it would but only if the road is flat. Off-road in snow, forget about it
You have to turn on the diff lock
Saif Gmdi it doesn't have
What diff lock? There's no connection between the engine and the rear wheels.
not the ideal canidate for testing the electric motors set up, but I still am curious to see how it does.
The tires hate off road 😂
the car is horrible off road and on snow
at this price range, it is a shame that the RX does not have a proper LSD or similar system. Its all about marketing. The cost of adding off-road capability is very small compared with the Lexus price range, they just do not do it, because the market does not want people to have on-road and off-road abilities at the same time at a reasonable cost. If you have a wife, both have full-time job, then you will need three cars to enjoy everyday driving and weekender adventures.
They will take the 300 up gold mine hill but not the 570? whats wrong with this picture?
Normaly the new NX300H has the 2.0L turbo ! No ?
NX200t has 2.0 turbo.
and its a very sweet turbo
Bit laggy and very thirsty I'd say.
do toyota rav4
It performed the same way, shit AWD
front grill on this and other Toyotas looks like the Predator face.
NatureRecycleFlorida, Front grill is a copy from AUDI/VW few years back and Toyota just go crazy with it.
its still fugly
The dashboard and the console on this lexus doesn't look luxury to me. Their interiors used to be top notch. Now they have taken a step down.
What if they did this with a Jeep Grand Cherokee srt
What are noy the right tyres to go off road !!!
Is not the car, is the DRIVER !!!
Electrically powered rear wheels SHOULD work well. Electrical engines are king in terms of control and power. So them Toyota engineers need to reconsider the design.
Change the tyres,... it will perform much better, ...
The Lexus isn't designed to drive off road. It's "AWD not 4WD".
I think a Jeep would be a better purchase for $50k. Though I do enjoy seeing city rovers taken on dirt trails.
Jeep would be as nice to drive on road.
As expected another Japanese car with bad AWD(except Subaru). No one can deny that fuel economy and reliability are the high points of the Lexus, AWd is not.
Very underrated in my opinion. You can find an NX200T with under 40k miles for $26k. Incredible value.
cx-5 did even in mud.
tires are not fit for offroad maybe
really confused to why you turned off traction control as that assists the driver when loosing traction. try again with traction control and it should brake the spinning wheels. I find this video very misleading as I wanted to see how the traction control would keep up
Richie Ho Traction control in loose dirt like that is useless. It cuts power so fast that you have no propulsive force. You can sit there with your foot to the floor as it revs to a staggering 1500 rpm and tries to find a little traction at each wheel. With it off you can at least get a some power by spinning wheels.
In this case traction control wasn't braking any wheel. It was just cutting the power going to all 4 wheels. Traction control was rubbish.
Christina that is exactly what I wanted to see. the first run you can see traction control kick in without cutting all power. he made it further than the second run when the traction control is turned off. I wanted to see if it does cut all power like Honda crv's do but from the first run it doesn't with only minor interference with wheel slipping. I can't assume that it doesn't or does cut power as this video only covers traction control off. I guess the main point of the video is to see if the batteries do power the rear separately which it does really well but without traction control you are mimicking 90s 4x4 systems with centre diff.
Well, at least it has the shape to go offroad, even if not the ability. It just loses all it's power out the spinning wheel.
50 grand and it's got the same hybrid energy monitor display as in my mother's old 2002 Prius.... no thanks lol
Please take that Ram 2500 long term truck up this hill.
That was anemic and disappointing. The Lexux NX is primarily a front wheel drive car. It won't do well in snow.
Romeo Mariano Wrong, these do well in the snow. Check out Moodus and Vincent's channel with Rav4 Hybrids.
@@SirtubalotTX I am tired of people like your lying to people. They do not do well on snow. They do only when in flat terrains while they struggle on small snow hills
@@youarerightbut5066 Did you even bother watching the videos that I mentioned?
Don't tell nobody that this vehicle is 4WD
The so called Toyota hybrid AWD is totally a joke. We have seen many of them stuck in light snow condition looking for help. For Toyota off road: 4Runner, Tacoma, Tundra, and FJcruiser.
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Autumn Shimmer, sounds like a stripper i used to know.
Fake truck. Buy it for looks. Given clearance, any Subaru will do easily on stage 2 GMH.
Thanks for reminding me why I'm not impressed with Lexus.
NO DO THE RX350 2016 not this
It also has a locking diff and down hill descent.
Just another SUV
sdushdiu They have their uses, higher driving position, more cargo space & headroom for rear passengers + it can do as much offroad as any crossover & owner like this will do..
BarbecuedPossum
If everyone has a SUV is the driving position higher?
... really?... It's not just about being able to see over other cars. Gives you a better view over hedges etc on country roads for example. I would never buy something like this but I can see why people do. Also you are forgetting one thing.. Not EVERYONE has an suv. So the visibility over 60% or whatever of traffic is still better
+Barbecuedpossum - yup, they are really nice to cruise around in. Plus they are really easy to get in and out of, especially compared to my GTI. :) But to be honest I prefer zippy to comfort.
Screw sitting up higher! There will be trucks that will still be MUCH higher than any crossover out there.
so you're basically covering lexus' ass by saying there's not enough grip where in reality 2 wheels are perfectly planted on the ground and ready to go and just awd system sucks and that's why you're not going anywhere. can you guys be clear and unbiased towards your audience, I watch your videos to get an honest idea and review of a car not get fed up with tales. do you care about your reputation? then start speaking truth.
ugh that grill
50k for a gussied up economy softroader suv (RAV4), nuts.
What grip ? toyota rav4 with electrical rear wheels is the worst suv on the market in real tests.Even the kia has better suv.
50K lol !
terrible....
BMW is horrible
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GRAND CHEROKEE would kick its ass
Indeed it would.
no shit it''s made for offroad
that's why i will not buy a toyota of lexus, even though i work at toyota. pathetic that such an expensive luxury brand suv cant bother to put in a limited slip diff in the rear..... talk about cost cutting and maximize profit from lexus, how is that perfection like their motto says?
Tony Cao I agree! I like Lexus but lately they have been throwing some shitty performance cars out there. And 50k for this? No thanks!
And ugly as hell imo
might as well be FWD, another Piece of shit lexus
Mine le awd rav4 can do better like this shit hybrid.
Old Gregg this is true. last week i already tested both of them... ;) cheers.
Typical cheap Japanese interior. Lots of spray painted hard plastic. This is not the interior of a "luxury" car.