Did He Go Too Far? {Storytime}
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Observing the human behavior dynamic is fascinating. The unspoken power balance you mentioned, done consciously or unconsciously, is spot on.
I knew you were gonna say chutzpah !!!
You can never really grasp the dynamics between a str8 guy and girl. This is what str8 guys do, it's a very natural thing and the str8 girl knows all about it. It is nothing like what two guys feel like.
There will always be a difference on what women feel in these kind of situations, and gay men.
100%
Interesting story.. Btw, I LOVE when you keep flipping the camera! It's cute and please don't stop doing it! 😊😂👍
Really, you do?? 😅
@@KevenTalks Yes, very much in fact. It's kind of part of the personality of when you are having a discussion with your audience and to me it is characteristic 👌💯
@@unstoppableguy Thanks for telling me this! So funny, someone else told me it was distracting. I guess I should do whatever feels right to me since there will always be 2 different responses to everything! 😅
@@KevenTalks Yes! Exactly, as I said, I find it cute & very endearing! Especially as you have alot of interesting things to say. Ignore the other commenter! I look forward to seeing this again! 😂👍👌😘
It’s possible also that she could have been attracted to him but turned off by the method, like thinking he just does this with everyone so she’s not special. I remember when I was in college and new to the scene a stripper I was into at a bar approached me and told me i was his type and I somehow ended the interaction because I figured it was his common pickup line to get money but looking back based on body language and eye contact I think he actually wanted my number and was being legit
Stay away from strippers!! It's just like actors - they can't be trusted! 😂
I feel sorry for younger generations these days. Everyone everywhere seems to be triggered, traumatized or upset by just about anything. Lets' see, a guy made a silly joke to try and pick up a girl who wasn't interested. He left immediately when it didn't work, she started breathing heavily like she'd been assaulted. He needs a new pick up line and she needs a therapist. Men have been trying to pick up women ( or other men) since the beginning of time. Honestly, is this even a thing these days ?
I believe therapists are causing these problems.
They create lifelong patients.
Considering the violent rape culture that has been normalized I totally understand her being triggered. You however I don't understand. Are you old as you imply? And probably male. I dont understand why you think its acceptable to go up to a random person and hit on them when chances are you're not their type. Why do you think being a nuisance to someone should be socially sanctioned like in the "good old days"?
My therapist disagrees
@@gamerboyz2024 😂😂
@@gamerboyz2024 Hahaha
From the sounds of it, he handled the interaction perfectly fine. He didn't do anything other than be unattractive to her, and when she said no, he stopped. He didn't argue with her or anything, so I think he's fine.
It seemed fine to me too, but I hadn't at all considered the power dynamic of someone laying down vs someone hovering above them, uninvited. If you think about it, that's never happening when someone hits on someone. They just make eye contact and approach them.
@@KevenTalks I don't think it necessarily creates a power dynamic. If the genders were reversed, we wouldn't see it as a power dynamic. If she was actually triggered, I get it, and that was probably scary for her. I still don't think the man did anything wrong here other than be unattractive.
@@KevenTalks we may be teaching women to analyze situations using this kind of language and that makes women more anxious about benign situations
I would not appreciate some random dude standing over me, especially if hes not attractive to me. Straight men wouldn't appreciate it if gays started hitting on them like that. I would probably just dismiss him as a nuisance but if I were a smaller female with a past history of abusive male attention I could see why it upset her. Women are wired differently from us. Whereas you and me might go to the beach to sunbathe AND check out the hot guys most women just want to mind their own business, sunbathe and be left alone.
Exactly. I hear a lot of female friends say they just want to be left alone when out in public. Meanwhile I'm like, no come bother me! 😂
@@KevenTalks What if he's an ugly douchebag? Thats who approaches people 99% of the time
LOL that's a great point. In that case I just walk faster before they can approach
Genders aren't all equal. Women don't want to be hit on for the 53rd time this month. Gays certainly would welcome it!
Interesting. I’m glad to have crossed into the category of old man! I enjoy being considered harmless by most whereas young men are seen as a threat on the beach, on the road and many other places.
Ohh that's an interesting perspective!
He is being creepy. He is standing above her, she is lying on the beach at his feet. Imagine what that looks like. She wouldn't have had to have had a bad experience to feel freaked out. Approaching someone in a bar, organically, is way different to suddenly appearing above you with a cheap pick-up line. Don't be envious of him - he's a prick. I am reminded of women hearing footsteps behind them as they walk down the street. The man who is behind her, possibly, probably, in all innocence, hasn't thought how threatening it feels. There is an imbalance, not like between two men. EDIT: I paused just before you mention the imbalance dynamic right at the end. Note to self - listen to it all before jumping in!
Yes, it's a different dynamic for sure!
Would love to meet you at Twist (early) for drinks… (friendly flirting 😅lol😏) this topic is so relevant… I see it all the time in Miami & DC.
This is absolutely ridiculous.
If she is having an anxiety attack bc she was approached on a public beach then that’s a problem with her. We should sympathize, sure. But that’s abnormal on her part.
We’re in a moral panic around women’s safety and the panic doesn’t actually make women safer.
I felt the same way at first too, but then I considered the power dynamic of him hovering over her, and I thought about all the times my female friends have said they were uncomfortable when a guy approached them totally uninvited, out of the blue. It's quite fascinating - I WISH I would get approached! LOL but it goes to show you we're all wired so differently.
How about doing a video of the Lost art of cruising. 60s, 70s, and 80s you can score a hookup anywhere! 🧑🤝🧑
I don't think I have the skill set or experience to make a video on that 😅
yes, the cruising was rampant and could take place almost anywhere in the '70s. It was great fun, but it wasn't exactly like that anymore by around 1984... I don't know about the '6os other than cruising the wrong man could get you killed then where I am from.
I dont know where some straight men get their confidence. It seems to me that women are a much more risky group to approach because of what is considered acceptable to say and do to them. And the expectations that women have for men that want to show interest in them.
I think when its two men, we are more comfortable hitting on eachother bc we don't take it as a threat, but as a compliment.
Women seem to only want a certain scenario(s) or "their type" to show interest, and in the way they want it shown.
I've had guys I'm not interested in flirt with me and i still think it's a compliment that someone finds me attractive. I just politely decline and move on.
But i do understand there is a different power dynamic between a male and a female. I just think straight guys have to walk a much more intricate and touchy line than gay men often, bc they are dealing with a woman.
Such an interesting POV because meanwhile I think it's way more awkward for a guy to hit on a guy (unless it's clearly a gay environment like a gay bar) because a) you don't know for sure they're gay and b) some straight guys get so uncomfortable with the idea of another guy hitting on them - but I completely get what you're saying that there's also a "danger" in coming on too strong with a woman.
@KevenTalks Yes. You're right about if it's a gay environment, it's easier for men. But yeah, just in a general environment where you don't know if a guy is gay, then it is more difficult in that way.
Ah yes I see what you mean then. Yes, generally women can be really harsh to men / have super high expectations of courtship, which as you mentioned, makes the confidence factor really interesting among guys like him. But listen, he's sexy and for him to be doing this so often - it must work a good portion of the time!
Heterosexual men's brains are wired a bit differently to gay men's. Gay differences compared to straight people of the same sex are reflected in their psychology and the ways they relate to others.
To some extent, homosexuality is part of a package of mental traits, many of which can be considered gender-variant or gender non conformist, whereas heterosexuality is part of a package of gender-typical or gender conformist. For example, gay men and lesbians are gender shifted in a variety of male favoring-visuospatial traits such as mental rotation, targeting, and navigation, as well as female-favouring tasks such as verbal fluency and object location memory. The association between sexual orientation and other gendered traits arises because all these traits differentiate under the influence of a common biological process-the sexual differentiation of the brain under the influence of sex hormones.The mind of the average gay individual is a patch work of gendered traits, some indistinguishable from same-sex peers, some shifted past way toward the other sex, and others typical of the other sex.
Sexual orientation is an aspect of gender that emerges from the prenatal sexual differentiation of the brain. Whether a person ends up gay or straight depends in large part on how this process of biological differentiation goes forward, with the lead actors being genes, sex hormones and the brain systems that are influenced by them. Sexual orientation(as well as other gender differences) is biologically determined before birth in the utero by prenatal sex hormone exposure. The organisational effects of hormones on the brain prior to birth have permanent effects.
An organism exists to propagate it's genetic material. It's the reason we have our sexual organs, sex drive and sexual motivations to secure high value mates. In most people our biology's are geared toward securing and attracting sexual partners of the opposite sex in order to reproduce and for the survival of our offspring. Males have evolved to coordinate their sexual arousal and attraction indices more strongly than women because it aids them in building their sexual orientation towards relevant sexual targets. Gay men share a lot of sexuality traits with other men in terms of arousal patterns etc...but they have a different sexual orientation because in other areas of the brain they are more female-typical. Some aspects of the neurological organization of male sexual arousal are independent of sexual orientation, and therefore expressed similarly in heterosexual and homosexual men. It's believed that gay men, during some point in fetal life, were exposed to unusually low levels of androgens, which allowed their hypothalamic circuits to develop in a female-typical direction.
If testosterone levels during a critical prenatal period are high , the brain is organized in such a way that the person is predisposed to become typically masculine in a variety of gendered traits, including sexual attraction to females. If testosterone levels are low during that same time period, the brain is organized in such a way that the person is predisposed to become typically feminine in gendered traits, including sexual attraction to males.
Gendered interests are predicted by testosterone exposure in utero. Higher levels are associated with male-typical interests and behaviours, regardless of whether the baby is male or female. These include a preference for mechanically interesting objects and systemizing occupations in adulthood. Lower levels are associated with a preference for people orientated activities and occupations. stemming from evolutionary roots. Women. who are tasked with the role of bearing children, evolved to be more sociable, empathic, and people focused, while men, as hunter-gatherers, were rewarded for strong visuopatial skills and ability to build and use tools. That's why science, technology, engerneering and mathematics fields tend to be dominated by men.
Male homosexuality is no just an isolated trait but rather part of a package of gender variant traits, If a man inherits a few of these genes, he will have some feminine characteristics, which might include increased empathy and kindness, decreased aggressivness and the like, These genes increase his attractivness to women, permitting him more sexual access and thus offering him the likelihood of having more offspring. If a man inherits all of these genes, however, he will be feminized to the point of homosexuality, and his reproductive success will drop markedly. Because each feminizing gene is present in many more straight men than gay men(straight men are the vast majority of the males) it only has to raise each straight man's reproductive success by a small amount to compensate for the lowered reproductive success of gay men.
Different pathways can lead to homosexuality and some may be accompanied by a broader gender-nonconformity and others less so. All gay people have some gender-atypical traits( such as gay men are androphilic like most females and lesbians gynephilic like most males) but few have the entire package. No one is 100% male typical or 100% female typical, but homosexual people are generally more atypical than heterosexual people. Gay men are shifted in a female direction compared with straight men, and lesbians are shifted in a male direction compared with straight women. These are only shifts and not complete gender reversals, and they don't affect every gender trait. Gay men have at least some gender atypical traits(some more than others) but few have the entire package. Gay people remain gender typical in a variety of traits, especially those related to sexuality, such as their interest in casual sex.
In areas of personality, men rank higher than women on measures of assertiveness, competivness, aggressiveness, and independence(these getting things done traits are sometimes referred to collectively as instrumentality).
In area of cognition, Men perform better than women at variety of visuospatial tasks such as mental rotation, targeting accuracy, and navigation(especially when navigating by distant landmarks or compass directions rather than by local cues)
Women perform better than men at some memory tasks, including episodic memory(memory of events) verbal memory and memory of the locations of objects. They are also better at tests of verbal fluency(quickly coming up with words that match a certain category) and some other verbal skills, face recognition, and behavioral tasks requiring fine hand movements.
Women rank higher than men on measures of expressivness, sociability, empathy, openness to feelings, altruism and neuroticism.(the last item includes the tendency to depression, anxiety, self-consciousness, and low self esteem) Men prefer thing-oriented activities and occupations(e.g carpenter) whereas women prefer people-oriented activities and occupations(e.g social worker) Women have better developed aesthetic interests and less developed technological interests than men. In studies on occupational preferences that noted that all the masculine occupations were thing-orientated, whereas at least three of the feminine occupations were people orientated. The study showed a major gender shift among gay men and women in the people-thing dimention, with gay mens interests shifted toward people like straight women and gay womens shifted towards things like heterosexual men. At least two studies have reported that gay men score higher than straight men on tests of empathy-a female favoring trait. Gay men and bisexual men also score higher on tests of aesthetic interest, another female favouring trait.
Several studies have reported that gay men are less physically aggressive than heterosexual men and one of these found lesbians are more physically aggressive than heterosexual women. Gay people also tend to be gender shifted in instrumentality and expressiveness(these are sets of male-favouring traits) In visuospatial abilities like mental rotation, at least several research groups have conducted sizeable studies comparing performance at this task between gay and straight subjects-one of them an internet-based test by several hundred thousand subjects from around the world- reported that gay men perform less well than straight men. With regard to women, studies found a shift in the opposite direction-that is lesbians performed better at the task than did straight women. In another study gay men performed worse than straight men at targeting(throwing a ball to the centre on a target a few feet away) and lesbians performed better than straight women. They examined navigation strategies. They found that the strategy preferred by gay men(use of nearby-landmarks) resembled that preferred by straight women., and differed from that preferred by straight men( use of distant landmarks or compass bearings) Two large studies found differences in the ability to judge the orientation of a line-a male favouring task, gay men performed worse than straight men on this task. and lesbians performed better than straight women.
@@user-ho8br1cw8c There is considerable evidence that gay peoples visuospatial abilities are shifted, on average in the direction of the other sex. Women tend to outperform men in verbal fluency and some related verbal skills. in a study measuring verbal fluency the gay men performed significantly better than the straight men and about as well as the straight women, whereas the lesbians scored significantly worse than the straight women and about as badly as the heterosexual men. This data suggest a complete gender inversion in verbal fluency among gay men and women, compared with their heterosexual peers. In another study on memory tasks gay men outperformed straight men and did as well as straight women. When listening to sounds, straight men tend to have a bias for their right ear, which both gay men and straight women lack. They also tend to outperform gay men and straight women in tests of spatial awareness, where success depends on a part of the brain - the parietal cortex - which is usually larger in men than in women.
Also there was marked differences in the left and right amygdalas of straight men and women. In straight men the right amygdala was more richly connected with other brain regions than was the left amygdala, whereas in straight women the left amygdala was more richly connected. Whats more, the main functional connections formned by the amygdala were to different brain regions in the two sexes. In gay men and lesbians, these characteristics were almost entirely sex-atypical; the findings in gay men resembled those of straight women, and the findings in lesbians resembled those of straight men. The connections that link the amygdala to other parts of the brain these connections usually link to different areas in the brains of men and women, and sprout from different hemispheres -the right in men, and the left in women. Other groups have certainly detected asymmetries before in children, and some have even done so in the brains of foetuses.
That was the pattern they saw from the straight volunteers from their study, but the homosexuals showed the reverse pattern. The amygdalas of gay men had more in common with those of straight women - the two halves were well-connected, they had more neurons projecting from the left half (as opposed to the right in straight men) and these neurons connected to the same parts of the brain that those of straight women do. In straight women and gay men, the connections were mainly into regions of the brain that manifest fear as intense anxiety. The regions involved in phobia, anxiety and depression overlaped with the pattern they saw from the amygdala.This fits with data showing that women are three times as likely as men to suffer from mood disorders or depression and gay men have higher rates of depression too. In straight men and lesbians, the amygdala fed its signals mainly into the sensorimotor cortex and the striatum, regions of the brain that trigger the “fight or flight” response. It’s a more action-related response than in women.
In straight men and lesbians, the amygdala (which influences our emotional reactions to stress) connects to the sensorimotor cortex and the striatum, parts of the brain involved in the “fight or flight” response and governs fear and aggression... But in straight women and gay men, the amygdala’s connections feed into the anterior cingulate cortex and the subcallosum. These areas are for processing emotions and influence our moods and have been implicated in mood-related disorders such as anxiety and depression. The volumetric patterns of brain activity in both lesbian women and gay men, or grey matter volumes in the perirhinal cortex in lesbian women. Some of these effects seem to be unique to sexual orientation, such as cortex cortical thickness in the orbitofrontal, cingulate cortex, precuneus, and left occipito-termporal cortex volumetric increase of the suprachiasmatic nucleus of the hypothalamus and visual areas as well as the anatomy of the corpus callosum in gay men. Several small-scale neuroimaging studies have also suggested cross-sex shifts in homosexual men and women in brain responses to putative sex-specific pheromonal compounds.
MRI scans showed In straight men the right hemisphere was 2% larger than the left. In straight women, the two hemispheres were the same size. In gay men the two hemispheres were also the same size. In lesbians the right hemisphere was slightly larger than the left. Studies have showed the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus INAH3 is significantly smaller in gay men than straight men. Infact there is no significant difference between its size in the gay men and in women. Activity pattern in this region of the hypothalamus have been reported to differ between gay and straight men. A cell group called the suprachiasmatic nucleus was larger in gay men than in straight men. The suprachiasmatic nucleus is concerned with the regulation of circadian rhythms,. The size of this commissure is known to be larger in women than in men Heterosexual men exhibited more gray matter volumes in the thalamus, thalamic and in the cerebellum and premotor cortex than homosexual men.
Functional decoding analyses suggested that thalamus and pre-/post-central gyri are involved in broad networks associated with action execution, perception, pain monitoring, reward processing, motor learning,complex information processing, processing incoming sensory information, exchanging and relaying sensory, motor, and cognitive information to higher-order association areas, integrating information across networks and modulating cortical laminar synaptic activity, that spanned somatosensory and higher-order cognitive functions motor, and cognitive information to higher-order association areas, integrating information across networks and modulating cortical laminar synaptic activity(which goes back to male-typical traits)
The thalamus and sensorimotor areas are functional and structurally connected by fiber projections to the somatosensory and sensorimotor cortices. These pathways from thalamic nuclei to the sensorimotor areas mediate the interaction between attention and arousal in humans as well as having a putative role in multisensory information integration and processing of nociceptive and non-nociceptive information. Moreover, these two regions were part of the prediction map acquired by the automatic meta-analytical tool based on studies associated investigating sexual orientation The thalamus has numerous reciprocal cortico-thalamic connections with reward and sensory-motor regions. Meta-analytic findings show that the thalamus encodes primary and secondary rewards, reward processing, and reward anticipation. Additionally the role of the thalamus in encoding human sexual preference. The rewarding psychophysical properties of sexual stimuli (i.e., valence, intensity, magnitude, pleasantness,) differ between heterosexual and homosexual individuals. GMV differences in this region may change reward propensities by weighing the stimuli associated with one’s preferred sex more rewarding relative to the ones associated with one’s less desired sex. The morphological differences between homo- and heterosexual individuals reflect atypical cerebral sex dimorphisms.
The precentral gyrus is implicated in the regulation of emotion and self-evaluation, including the perception of body image. Moreover, the precentral gyrus was associated with self-motion control of penile movement as well as with the imagination of sexual behaviors during sexual arousal when visual stimuli were presented. Compared with heterosexual participants, homosexual men showed significantly increased fractional amplitude of low-frequency fluctuation (fALFF) in the right middle frontal gyrus and right anterior cerebellum, and decreased fALFF in the left postcentral gyrus, left lingual gyrus, right pallidum, right postcentral gyrus, left interior parietal gyrus, right superior temporal gyrus, left cuneus, and left inferior frontal gyrus. Additionally, fALFF in the left postcentral gyrus and left cuneus correlated positively, When the seeds in the left cuneus, left cuneus, and left superior parietal gyrus also had reduced FC in homosexual participants, Both heterosexual and homosexual individuals exhibited higher activity of the post-central gyrus during subjective arousal. Together with the thalamus, precentral regions showed higher activation in heterosexual individuals while watching female-to-female and female-to-male sexually arousing videos. Hence, these regions are likely involved in sexual arousal.
Statistical parametric mapping showed that viewing erotic film excerpts that induced sexual arousal was associated, in both groups, with activation of the middle prefrontal gyrus, bilateral temporal lobe and postcentral gyrus, thalamus, insula, vermis, left precuneus, occipital cortex, parietal cortex, and cerebellum. In homosexual men, the left angular gyrus, left caudate nucleus, and right pallidum were activated; in contrast, heterosexual men showed no activation in these regions. However, heterosexual men showed activation in the bilateral lingual gyrus, right hippocampus, and right parahippocampal gyrus, areas not activated in homosexual men. In both groups, region-of-interest analysis revealed no correlation between the magnitude of amygdala or thalamus activation and the reported level of sexual arousal.
I do not have anything to say this time Keven. I watched and I really could not relate at all because I am not hetrosexual, no one hits on me and I am not dating. . I do think women should always consider personal safety. You just never know who is out there and what kind of personality they have. It is always about personal safety.