Links to all boards discussed are in the description above. Timestamps align with sections split into price or form factor (or similar categorization), so those boards are listed cheapest to most expensive. This is less focused on VRMs than normally, since a lot of these boards bleed together with VRM quality, and looks at a mix of VRM quality, extra features, networking, memory OC, and more. Support this type of work by grabbing a GN Mousemat or PC building Modmat on the store: store.gamersnexus.net/ Watch our revisit of the AMD R7 1700 CPU in 2020: ruclips.net/video/RHw67eaT32U/видео.html Find Buildzoid here: ruclips.net/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 | Best Z490 Motherboards Intro 00:42 | Cheapest Z490 Boards Recapped 05:43 | Best ~$200 Z490 Motherboards 09:13 | Best Micro-ATX & Mini-ITX Z490 Boards 13:38 | $300 Z490 Workstation Boards & 10GbE Recap 18:24 | Best $300 Z490 OC & Gaming Boards 22:17 | THE Overclocking Motherboard: ASUS APEX vs. Hero 26:00 | $750 Z490 Motherboards Trying to Do Everything 28:03 | Conclusion: Figure Out Features You Want & Spend Less
"There's nothing stopping you from running a MATX board in a ATX case... Sure it'll look a little empty, but that's just extra airflow" Hahaha I died from that
@@tomstech4390 Lets be clear here, the extra airflow as was? 40€ extra ;-) I have no problem with mATX, even they are usually not for me, but I am not paying a single cent extra for a smaller form factor. I would pay for better VRMs or memory topology.
Dude seriously thank you so much. I'm about to build a pc when the new gpu's drop, but I haven't gamed on a pc since like the Doom and Duke Nukem days in the 90's on a Packard Bell. I feel like I've figured everything else out, but motherboards are kinda overwhelming for somebody who was been out of the loop for awhile.
Ever since I began researching my PC build and buying the components, it’s been a roller coaster experience! From fanboy biases to the shouting matches of whats better or worse in the PC is insane!
I bought a z490 with a 10700K and was shamed on every reddit & forum I posted my build. It's rough being an Intel user nowadays. Can't even share my build without getting harrassed.
Reddit is terrible, full stop. As a 3900x owner, I ... really don't care one way or another what other people use. If I had a reddit account I'd probably join in on shaming you because groupthink is very powerful and it's reddit's only strong suit. It's not your build being intel based, it's reddit hating intel because that's the cool thing to do.
I hear ya. Nothing good on reddit nowadays except for the niche hobby subreddits like r/woodworking and other hobby-dedicated subs. All of the "main" subreddits are just toxic and cynical.
I really liked the time codes for each section. All I cared about were the $300 gaming/OC boards, and that allowed me to skip 18 minutes of content I had no interest in.
This video helped me chose the SUPER MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge WiFi and I loved it! My 10700K is running all 8 cores humming at 5Ghz 1.275v without a sweat. Thank you, Tech Jesus!
@@BIOHAZARDXXXX Honestly, there is no need for 5.1 GHz at all cores. No game uses all cores at 100%. You are just wasting about 50 watts of electricity for nothing. Turbo boost should be good enough. Just watch the stock vs overclock 10700k benchmarks. In most games it doesn't make any difference at all.
mine is msi z490 - A pro, i just picked it in hurry for my i7 10700k, was very anxious while watching the video because of coil whine, didn't expect good components and positive review.
GamersNexus always has him doing more concise / less rambly videos. If you want to go Full-Buildzoid, check out Actually Hardcore Overclocking. Be warned, each motherboard rundown will be like an hour long X)
@@ludibriumpq the z490 a pro and asus z490prime were tested over at hardware unboxed in there "Intel Z490 VRM Testing" video, he also talks about VRM quality and phases and how easy the can overclock the or just fail miserably.
At that point, why not just get a more expensive board that'll handle everything else better while also giving you the ports? (Which granted _is_ assuming you can find ones in that price difference.)
@@navawtff lol not really. Intel z490 is good, but b550 is at least on par if not better. Really, does z490 offer pcie 4.0 at a reasonable price? no. Does z490 cost more for the same quality board? yes. Is z490 on a platform with many security issues? yes. b550 suffers from none of these problems and is better in most ways. The real world wants something besides a 5% lead in gaming and adobe suite.
After long consideration I went with the Asus Proart. I don't overclock and I don't game at all. It's mostly workstation loads. And since my PC is in a separate room from my desk area I can replace all the cabling between my PC and my desk with just a thunderbolt connection. On top of that I can run an extra M.2 SSD for my Adobe Lightroom library next to my boot drive. It's the perfect board for my setup really.
I'm rocking the Asus ROG STRIX Z490-F and I'm loving it, didn't wanna spend too much, and I hate MSI's BIOS (and I'm familiar with the ROG one), so I went with this board. Only complaint is that the RGB logo looks more green than yellow (I set it to yellow in AURA sync).
What a bummer, and that's from a company that seemed to have figured out that slapping big fat heatsinks onto VRMs just makes your board instantly better...
laptops have a similar cooling system, but on laptops, it is used to cool the main cpu and gpu, but in this model, we can say that the VRMs are actively cooled by a fan, so it might be a bit more efficient than bigger heat sinks, assuming the fan is properly ventilated
Would be interesting to see an overclocking comparison between boards to see if I spent an extra 100 or 200 or 300 would it allow me to push my CPU overclock further. Starting at the 200-250 price point perhaps. So keep all other variables the same (CPU, RAM, PSU, cooling) and just change out the board. I realize this is probably a lot of work :) could include RAM overclocking as well.
These are the standouts motherboards. Check BZ channel, he covers all the boards there. Knowing him, probably didn't include it because of bad price to performance
Thanks GN and Buildzoid, i just wait for these reviews every gen now before pulling the trigger, can't stress enough how much they help when putting together a build
This is exactly what I was looking for! I had the MSI z490 Edge Wifi in my cart but I wanted to be sure it was a good fit for lightly overclocking a 10700k. You guys are the best!
has ASUS still the "feature" of shutting down after 2 seconds of booting, waiting a few seconds and then booting up completely? (and sometimes multiple times)
I got my msi unify last week and I’m loving it . It’s my first non asus board and was afraid of bad bios but I’m actually surprise and like it even more than asus bios .i paired it with an 10700k and I haven’t game on it yet , I’m still on Overclocking fun
Another feature I found interesting on the Gigabyte ITX board was that it had four fan headers. Most ITX board only give you two: one for the CPU fan and one for a system fan. The Z490I has one cpu fan header and three system fan headers. If you actually want to run powerful hardware, you very often end up with more than one fan, and having multiple fan headers is nicer than using splitters or adapters. My current ITX system has a 140mm, a slim 120mm, and a 40mm fan all running off the single fan header on the motherboard using a couple splitters. It would have been nice to control them separately.
@@rickyyoung Looking forward to my Vision- G paired with a 10600K and an Arctic Freezer 280 (on offer same price as 240 so went for it) and 32GB of blingy RAM.
I love the look of the vision boards. I did go for the Unify in the end even though I had probs with my MSI Z87 gaming back in the day. If any probs I'll switch to Asus or gigabyte ultra ;)
@@shaneeslick it's their "enthusiast" lineup they actually try on. the matx equivalent is "mortar" and the mitx is "gaming plus ac". it's all vrm performance, no fluff like extra nvme slots and usb ports. it sucks for some people but there's a reason pcie expansion exists, and no it is not just video cards.
I picked up the Maximus XII Hero with my i7-10700K. LOVE THIS MOTHERBOARD!! It has everything! Slapped that CPU in and was at 5.0ghz stable at 1.25V instantly. This was an upgrade from a Haswell i7-5930K at 4.3ghz that would piss itself at 4.4ghz. The Hero, 10700K, coupled with my 2080TI I'm seeing frames I didn't even know were possible! LOL.
I have the same motherboard with an i9-10900K, 64GB of 3200MHz DDR4, 2 RTX 2080s SUPER in SLI and a Sound Blaster ZxR. I also have an Intel Optane 905P SSD.
I got the Vision D in a sale, £210 for my upgrade my coding and gaming station, I dont overclock and have a placeholder i5 10500 til 11th gen. I mainly got it for the amount of USBs and thunderbolt ports. Im getting great 1080p gaming and emulation on Yuzu with a GTX 1070, I might even try a hackintosh if i can nab a radeon cheap. I would have went AMD this build but 3600 stock shot up. Great video, really informative content and advice for all fields of computing work.
Spot on on the MSI Z490-A Pro. Just got this board based on your recommendation and in 5 minutes had a 10600k at 5ghz and 32 gigs (4x8) of ram at 4266mhz stable. Funny enough, I was running the Z270-A Pro and thought I'd get a more feature-rich board for an upgrade.......guess not :D
All z490 asrock are trash. Buildzoid did a separate overview video of them on his actually hardcore overclocking channel. They put all the money they had for Z490 into making good b550 boards.
Hardware unboxed had made a video on z490 motherboards and he said that asrock z490 motherboards in the entry- level price range are badly designed and concluded to stay away from these boards according to his tests. While stress testing, some of these crashed, or throttled whereas the other motherboards passed with flying colors
Thank you very much for this video. Really helped me make a decision on a motherboard. Was gonna get gigabyte aorus pro but now I'm gonna get a Asus strix. Was also thinking of the Asus pro but I'll cough up the extra money to have a longer lasting motherboard.
Was there any findings with issues on the Intel i225V 2.5Gbe port boards? I'm having the issue that i've found elsewhere that is specific to this particular intel port. Excellent information as usual, keep up the great job GN.
Newegg finally got the Apex in stock a free days ago and I should have it in a couple days. Also got a 16 GB kit of Patriot steel 4400 MHZ to go with it. And that kit is also on the qvl for the Apex. Can't wait to play with that memory.
The VRM situation really is fine at this point lol. When you look at many boards these days you could think that the aibs have some vrm fetish or something lol its nowhere NEAR as bad as it used to be.. infact in many cases its just stupidly good and you wish they would have used some of that money on other features
These prices are what I remembered motherboards to be priced at but prices have radically gone up in Sweden. The $750 "does everything" mobo is closer to $1200 here. while the budget $200 Gigabyte Vision G is closer to $350.
Just to say another reason for the ASUS Z490 HERO is that it has a built in DAC for those who don't want to spend extra money on a DAC or don't need one of a super high quality just one good enough to push mid range speakers/headsets.
Any reason why Gigabyte's offerings didn't make it in to the list? Been eyeballing The aorus Master/Ultra for a little while, but now you guys have got me doubting my picks :p
Revisiting this video since I just noticed one thing. While the Intel Z and B series boards get the most attention, the opposite happens with the H7 series (like H470), which I rarely see reviews from tech channels. I feel like I'm among that niche user base who don't OC but have a lot of stuff to plug into PCI-E slots plus multiple HDDs, and H7 boards seem to offer that better than B boards (at least the H97 I'm currently using clearly does that better than my dead B85 board for sure). It'll be interesting if there are some level of coverage for that in the future.
Watching this video just makes me think that 2018 was probably the best time to build a computer. Really good B450 and X470 boards on the AMD side and Z370 boards that weren't a bunch of suck that didn't cost an arm and a leg.
@sonicchilidog 2018 was the year after most of that blew over, if I remember correctly. Mid-2017 was the worst, but mid to late 2018 was significantly better. Not as good as we have it now though and maybe I'm remembering a couple things wrong. Currently very sleepy.
Guys, maybe you can make a video about the difference in Z490 boards sound systems. I purchased the Asus Z490-G based on it's Wi-Fi and sound capability. I did not really care about its other features. There are boards with built-in DACs which outperform almost any ~$100 DAC available on the market. Even just an ALC1220 with dual amps outperforms FiiO K3 for example. I would like to learn more about that
Buildzoid’s pc is running windows 7, you can tell because if you look at the top right it has the windows 7 style window buttons and if you pay close attention when his pc loads you have the vista/7 style spinning circle logo on the mouse cursor
LoL I loved hearing the frustration in your voice at the fact people are buying 700 dollar motherboards. I think everyone should have the Godlike board, it would solve just about every problem out there. Most people use their computers for more then one aspect that you've outlined here. Future proofing means less money spent overall
I want to know what TB3 controller those ITX boards are using... it makes a large difference concerning throughput. Also, no mention of Asrock’s Phantom Gaming ITX? That was the best ITX last gen...
I live in India, and the prices of boards and other pc parts are inflated in online stores, and the offline stores are closed due to the current situation. Is there a solution I can work around this? I am a student, currently about to turn 16 years old, and wanted to build a PC when I was 6th grade, which was about 4 years ago. Since then, I've been doing a lot of research on PC Parts, and watching a lot of reviews from your channel and other youtube channels like Linus tech tips, Bitwit, hardware unboxed etc. During the time period, I had been saving a lot of money in every possible way, such as not asking for birthday presents, not spending money on a lot of unnecessary items, and not going outside that frequently, which feels difficult for me, as I get decent grades, and my friends who score lower do a lot of fun playing outside, and currently have high end laptops which cost around a thousand dollars and play for 2 to 3 hours a day, while I do the research and study. I am not like them and don't do gaming and usually do a bit of gaming in the weekends.. I asked my parents on when I will get to build my new PC, and they after the exams, but I didn't know about which exams. And then I seceretly heard them say after my 10th grade exams, which made me had a bad mood inside. Fast forwarding to March which is 4 months ago before writing this comment, my 10th grade final exams have been completed, and I was about to go but at the same time the lockdown has started in my area. I have no other options other than to wait, which I have been doing *since the PAST 4 years.* It feels like All of the years of research had gone to waste, and I had missed so many things, like not attending any hangouts my friends do, and not enjoying my life like my friends did. Even today I feel the same, and now I am starting to feel that my parents are not allowing me to build my own pc, which is a shame as I fixed their issues like replacing a dead hard drive and recovering the data from it due to an OS level problem, and also fixed some of my neighbor's computers. They still won't let me do a part time job, even if I still get good grades and not waste my time. Other than researching, I don't do any gaming, because I don't have a good laptop, and even if it is an older title that works well, I still don't play. This is the situation of me right now. A person who is willing to build a pc but have personal problems to overcome... Also, can you suggest me a way, while buying pc parts, that have "gaming" in the name, or some products that have are usually have gaming-centric names? Not that I do frequent gaming, but some parts, like the msi z490 gaming edge WiFi is a very good board for 200 dollars and have all the features I need with future proofing for a mainstream board, but the problem is that when my parents see that it is built for "gaming" and have things like some aggressive designs, they are relating it to something like an Xbox or playstation., which is bought entirely for gaming. Even while watching your videos, my parents think that I am watching gaming videos and wasting my time. @Gamers Nexus , if you are reading this comment, I hope that this comment was worth your time, because it took me an hour to write this comment, and also am a big time viewer of your channels. Love from India
I guarente there are comments asking for this sort of round up on B550 boards - My additiong to that request is to mention where, if at all the break to "Just get a Z series board" happens
Links to all boards discussed are in the description above. Timestamps align with sections split into price or form factor (or similar categorization), so those boards are listed cheapest to most expensive. This is less focused on VRMs than normally, since a lot of these boards bleed together with VRM quality, and looks at a mix of VRM quality, extra features, networking, memory OC, and more.
Support this type of work by grabbing a GN Mousemat or PC building Modmat on the store: store.gamersnexus.net/
Watch our revisit of the AMD R7 1700 CPU in 2020: ruclips.net/video/RHw67eaT32U/видео.html
Find Buildzoid here: ruclips.net/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 | Best Z490 Motherboards Intro
00:42 | Cheapest Z490 Boards Recapped
05:43 | Best ~$200 Z490 Motherboards
09:13 | Best Micro-ATX & Mini-ITX Z490 Boards
13:38 | $300 Z490 Workstation Boards & 10GbE Recap
18:24 | Best $300 Z490 OC & Gaming Boards
22:17 | THE Overclocking Motherboard: ASUS APEX vs. Hero
26:00 | $750 Z490 Motherboards Trying to Do Everything
28:03 | Conclusion: Figure Out Features You Want & Spend Less
would be best if b460 included 😇
I would like to see content on board power delivery VS real world overclocking on standard cooling. At what voltages it start mattering
@@qzxyst6946 Then it wouldn't be a Z490 round-up. The title didn't have B460 in it.
Gamers Nexus Yea i know that, What i meant is for future. B460 boards are still incomplete right?
@Kamina are you on drugs?
"There's nothing stopping you from running a MATX board in a ATX case... Sure it'll look a little empty, but that's just extra airflow"
Hahaha I died from that
Does buildzoid even run motherboards in cases? I always see the dark pcb or motherboard box as test bench.
@@joefowble No he doesn't he says that just limits airflow
I'm not putting a full tower case under my 46" monitor, it'll look silly. 🤣
Joseph W. Fowble his normal system is on a testbench, there is a video on his channel.
@@tomstech4390 Lets be clear here, the extra airflow as was? 40€ extra ;-)
I have no problem with mATX, even they are usually not for me, but I am not paying a single cent extra for a smaller form factor. I would pay for better VRMs or memory topology.
Dude seriously thank you so much. I'm about to build a pc when the new gpu's drop, but I haven't gamed on a pc since like the Doom and Duke Nukem days in the 90's on a Packard Bell. I feel like I've figured everything else out, but motherboards are kinda overwhelming for somebody who was been out of the loop for awhile.
Ever since I began researching my PC build and buying the components, it’s been a roller coaster experience! From fanboy biases to the shouting matches of whats better or worse in the PC is insane!
Haha welcome to the hobby.
Pc master racists 😂
Always do your own thing, that's the beauty nowadays..it's alot easier with this much choice 😉
But yeah, welcome to the hobby 😁
Thanks guys!
I bought a z490 with a 10700K and was shamed on every reddit & forum I posted my build. It's rough being an Intel user nowadays. Can't even share my build without getting harrassed.
Reddit is terrible for that sort of thing. Nothing wrong with that build. Enjoy it!
Reddit is terrible, full stop. As a 3900x owner, I ... really don't care one way or another what other people use. If I had a reddit account I'd probably join in on shaming you because groupthink is very powerful and it's reddit's only strong suit. It's not your build being intel based, it's reddit hating intel because that's the cool thing to do.
Stay away from reddit. It's not a good place.
Hackintosh it and you'll be a hero
I hear ya. Nothing good on reddit nowadays except for the niche hobby subreddits like r/woodworking and other hobby-dedicated subs. All of the "main" subreddits are just toxic and cynical.
I really liked the time codes for each section. All I cared about were the $300 gaming/OC boards, and that allowed me to skip 18 minutes of content I had no interest in.
This video helped me chose the SUPER MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge WiFi and I loved it!
My 10700K is running all 8 cores humming at 5Ghz 1.275v without a sweat. Thank you, Tech Jesus!
For real? I was confused which one to get. Thanks!
I got the MSI Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi as well. It is running very good so far with 10700k.
If you are getting 5Ghz at just 1.275v, why don't you push it further? You could probably get 5.3 @ ~1.375 at that rate.
@@BIOHAZARDXXXX Honestly, there is no need for 5.1 GHz at all cores. No game uses all cores at 100%. You are just wasting about 50 watts of electricity for nothing. Turbo boost should be good enough. Just watch the stock vs overclock 10700k benchmarks. In most games it doesn't make any difference at all.
@@BIOHAZARDXXXX With MSI Unify here, 10700K 5.0GHz + uncore 4.8GHz = 1.23v. 5.2GHz core clock + 5.0GHz uncore = 1.37V
5.3GHz not boot even with 1.5v.
Thank you for your continued hard work. These types of videos are very appreciated.
Good video as always 💥👍
You can hear AsRock screeching in the background
mine is msi z490 - A pro, i just picked it in hurry for my i7 10700k, was very anxious while watching the video because of coil whine, didn't expect good components and positive review.
Just 30 minutes? What did you do to BZ?
Optimization.
they actually told him to shorten his videos as of lately, sadly :(
@@bananya6020 each brand got a 1hr+ long video on his channel. So yeah... go there if you want the long version
GamersNexus always has him doing more concise / less rambly videos. If you want to go Full-Buildzoid, check out Actually Hardcore Overclocking. Be warned, each motherboard rundown will be like an hour long X)
@@shaneeslick xD
Just happily switched to Z490 Gaming X + 10600k from RIVBE + 4960X.
Finally 6C/12T that draws 50W at idle..
I was missing the days when ASUS would do this for their boards. THANK YOU!
I am surprised by the lack of Gigabyte Aorus boards considering for the Z390 they were the best at any given price range. Be it Elite, Master etc.
Nice stuff. The Asus TUF seems to be very good, spec to price ratio -wise.
I have the am4 b450m pro. For a small form factor pc, it comes with 2 m.2 slots, 2 gpu slots, and has 4 ram slots up to 64 gb
Do you happen to know how the z490 tuf comapres to like the other cheaper z490 such as msi z490 a pro and asus z490p
That's the one I bought a few days ago, so I was hoping to see it in this video
@@ludibriumpq the z490 a pro and asus z490prime were tested over at hardware unboxed in there "Intel Z490 VRM Testing" video, he also talks about VRM quality and phases and how easy the can overclock the or just fail miserably.
These comparison videos are great. So informative. Great job!
Thanks, was just looking for this video since I’ve seen them done in the past. Good timing
Honestly though, you can get more usb ports by just getting an expansion card for like 20-50 dollars extra
At that point, why not just get a more expensive board that'll handle everything else better while also giving you the ports? (Which granted _is_ assuming you can find ones in that price difference.)
But you lose a pcie slot and depending on it's position on the MoBo it can be a hassle, plus the extra cabling from the pcie card
i bet you could melt it with a 2080ti running at 4k
Azenturi mainly because I already bought the board and cannot return it.
Greatly helped me in choosing cheap z490 board according to my needs. Thanks !
Awesome. Very thorough!
This was a brilliant summary. Thanks buildzoid!
Thanks Steve.
I'd love to see this type of video when B550 is released.
Same
yayaya
it happened
B550 is trash, intel is better
@@navawtff lol not really. Intel z490 is good, but b550 is at least on par if not better. Really, does z490 offer pcie 4.0 at a reasonable price? no. Does z490 cost more for the same quality board? yes. Is z490 on a platform with many security issues? yes. b550 suffers from none of these problems and is better in most ways. The real world wants something besides a 5% lead in gaming and adobe suite.
Finally! I've awaited exactly for this video.
absolutely epic video, thank you so much Buildzoid! You are an absolute beast and I appreciate your existence and this video!
After long consideration I went with the Asus Proart. I don't overclock and I don't game at all. It's mostly workstation loads. And since my PC is in a separate room from my desk area I can replace all the cabling between my PC and my desk with just a thunderbolt connection. On top of that I can run an extra M.2 SSD for my Adobe Lightroom library next to my boot drive. It's the perfect board for my setup really.
Amazing video bro
I'm rocking the Asus ROG STRIX Z490-F and I'm loving it, didn't wanna spend too much, and I hate MSI's BIOS (and I'm familiar with the ROG one), so I went with this board. Only complaint is that the RGB logo looks more green than yellow (I set it to yellow in AURA sync).
Thanks man.... I have cleared all my confusion 🙌😎
OMG amazing content! Thank you!
Excellent video.
Brilliant video! Super helpful! Thank you guys!!! 👍👍👍👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥
BZ have you seen how they are cooling the VRM on the MSI Unify? It is a fan pointed at a heat pipe lol.
What a bummer, and that's from a company that seemed to have figured out that slapping big fat heatsinks onto VRMs just makes your board instantly better...
yes he have seen it. it doesn't matter
ruclips.net/video/4NLtZfsTa48/видео.html
laptops have a similar cooling system, but on laptops, it is used to cool the main cpu and gpu, but in this model, we can say that the VRMs are actively cooled by a fan, so it might be a bit more efficient than bigger heat sinks, assuming the fan is properly ventilated
good infos! thank you ! you helped me a lot.
Would be interesting to see an overclocking comparison between boards to see if I spent an extra 100 or 200 or 300 would it allow me to push my CPU overclock further. Starting at the 200-250 price point perhaps. So keep all other variables the same (CPU, RAM, PSU, cooling) and just change out the board. I realize this is probably a lot of work :) could include RAM overclocking as well.
This totally pumped me up
apart from praising Buildzoid, just wanted to say that tforce rgb ram actually looks pretty cool
It's hideous as f*k
The RGB may hurt OC.
Thank you sooo much for this. I always struggle when picking a mobo
Where are the aorus master and aorus extreme?
Probably sacked for their terrible default power and voltage settings. I wouldn't be surprised.
These are the standouts motherboards. Check BZ channel, he covers all the boards there. Knowing him, probably didn't include it because of bad price to performance
Thanks GN and Buildzoid, i just wait for these reviews every gen now before pulling the trigger, can't stress enough how much they help when putting together a build
nice list and alot info here
27:29 Steve's head is gonna explode when MSI calls it 'XL EATX'!!!
The amount of Googling I did on this video to understand... and I am still barely keeping up.
I was waiting for this.
This is exactly what I was looking for! I had the MSI z490 Edge Wifi in my cart but I wanted to be sure it was a good fit for lightly overclocking a 10700k. You guys are the best!
I’m getting the same thing but what gpu did you go for?
has ASUS still the "feature" of shutting down after 2 seconds of booting, waiting a few seconds and then booting up completely? (and sometimes multiple times)
That's your board freaking out because you have something configured wrong.
I got the one that does everything.... no regrets
I’m going that route as well
Which is that
AfaqH the motherboard that does everything
@@afaqh5699 Godlike
Didn't you do a great breakdown/review of 1660 Supers? Your voice sounds familar.
Great work
First time I see a Buildzoid video, I've always watched Steve, I really like this 'let's go over the main z490 mobos out there' type of video.
I got my msi unify last week and I’m loving it . It’s my first non asus board and was afraid of bad bios but I’m actually surprise and like it even more than asus bios .i paired it with an 10700k and I haven’t game on it yet , I’m still on Overclocking fun
Cool cool. I got my board here but 6 days till my 10900KF. Love the look.
Patriot viper 4000 just arrived too, now just come on ebuyer!
Another feature I found interesting on the Gigabyte ITX board was that it had four fan headers. Most ITX board only give you two: one for the CPU fan and one for a system fan. The Z490I has one cpu fan header and three system fan headers. If you actually want to run powerful hardware, you very often end up with more than one fan, and having multiple fan headers is nicer than using splitters or adapters. My current ITX system has a 140mm, a slim 120mm, and a 40mm fan all running off the single fan header on the motherboard using a couple splitters. It would have been nice to control them separately.
Of course it was buildzoid. It had to be. I'll watch it even though I have no intention whatsoever of going intel anytime soon.
I watched it and i'm not changing my 6600k for a while either
@@rickyyoung Looking forward to my Vision- G paired with a 10600K and an Arctic Freezer 280 (on offer same price as 240 so went for it) and 32GB of blingy RAM.
@@rickyyoung i have a fuckin 4820k lol and I'm gpu bottlenecked but his voice is just nice
I love the look of the vision boards. I did go for the Unify in the end even though I had probs with my MSI Z87 gaming back in the day. If any probs I'll switch to Asus or gigabyte ultra ;)
Thank you very much Buildzoid.
This just confirmed that to OC the hell out of i5 10600K I just need MSI Z490 Tomahawk.
@@shaneeslick it's their "enthusiast" lineup they actually try on. the matx equivalent is "mortar" and the mitx is "gaming plus ac". it's all vrm performance, no fluff like extra nvme slots and usb ports. it sucks for some people but there's a reason pcie expansion exists, and no it is not just video cards.
@@bananya6020 those pcie x4 little slots have a purpose for extras. for OC it's the vrm spec not the slot/bennies spec.
Thanks for this.
I picked up the Maximus XII Hero with my i7-10700K. LOVE THIS MOTHERBOARD!! It has everything! Slapped that CPU in and was at 5.0ghz stable at 1.25V instantly. This was an upgrade from a Haswell i7-5930K at 4.3ghz that would piss itself at 4.4ghz. The Hero, 10700K, coupled with my 2080TI I'm seeing frames I didn't even know were possible! LOL.
What ring clock and what memory you had on the 5930K ?
@@kindis4282 I had 2666mhz Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 16 gigs in Quad Channel. I don't remember the ring clock TBH.
I have the same motherboard with an i9-10900K, 64GB of 3200MHz DDR4, 2 RTX 2080s SUPER in SLI and a Sound Blaster ZxR. I also have an Intel Optane 905P SSD.
@@Patrick73787 Nice! Yeah I was going to pick up the i9 but it was sold out! It still is on newegg!
I got the Vision D in a sale, £210 for my upgrade my coding and gaming station, I dont overclock and have a placeholder i5 10500 til 11th gen. I mainly got it for the amount of USBs and thunderbolt ports.
Im getting great 1080p gaming and emulation on Yuzu with a GTX 1070, I might even try a hackintosh if i can nab a radeon cheap. I would have went AMD this build but 3600 stock shot up.
Great video, really informative content and advice for all fields of computing work.
Intel - "we need new chipsets because of power requirements for the new, higher core chips"
Buildzoid - " basically a Z390 power configuration"
:D
... which was in the same sentence as BZ explaining that z390 isn't enough.
@@unitedfools3493 so basically that power configuration is not enough.
@@unitedfools3493 Shh, Intel bad, AMD good.
This video is a godsend! ;)
Exactly what I am looking for when considering purchase.
thanks! hope this kind of video will be a thing when 11th gen desktop happens =))))
Spot on on the MSI Z490-A Pro. Just got this board based on your recommendation and in 5 minutes had a 10600k at 5ghz and 32 gigs (4x8) of ram at 4266mhz stable. Funny enough, I was running the Z270-A Pro and thought I'd get a more feature-rich board for an upgrade.......guess not :D
That ProArt board is probably the best looking motherboard I have seen in years. All these other angled "gaming" boards look so trash.
Just skipped right over AsRock? I was really curious how the Taichi and Phantom models stacked up against the competition.
Hardware said they aren’t recommending any of the AsRock boards.
All z490 asrock are trash. Buildzoid did a separate overview video of them on his actually hardcore overclocking channel. They put all the money they had for Z490 into making good b550 boards.
Hardware unboxed had made a video on z490 motherboards and he said that asrock z490 motherboards in the entry- level price range are badly designed and concluded to stay away from these boards according to his tests. While stress testing, some of these crashed, or throttled whereas the other motherboards passed with flying colors
Thank you very much for this video. Really helped me make a decision on a motherboard. Was gonna get gigabyte aorus pro but now I'm gonna get a Asus strix. Was also thinking of the Asus pro but I'll cough up the extra money to have a longer lasting motherboard.
The rear I/O on these low end boards are worse than the P8Z77-M Pro I got for my first build… oof
Was there any findings with issues on the Intel i225V 2.5Gbe port boards? I'm having the issue that i've found elsewhere that is specific to this particular intel port. Excellent information as usual, keep up the great job GN.
This is awesome. This is the whole package in one Video. B550 next?
Thanks to this video and black cyber monday days I got the Gaming x!
Newegg finally got the Apex in stock a free days ago and I should have it in a couple days. Also got a 16 GB kit of Patriot steel 4400 MHZ to go with it. And that kit is also on the qvl for the Apex. Can't wait to play with that memory.
Rip 4400mhz wont do shit
It's time Roman gives the MB manufacturers some shit again for using extruded aluminium heat capacitors instead of heatsinks on the VRMs.
The VRM situation really is fine at this point lol. When you look at many boards these days you could think that the aibs have some vrm fetish or something lol its nowhere NEAR as bad as it used to be.. infact in many cases its just stupidly good and you wish they would have used some of that money on other features
These prices are what I remembered motherboards to be priced at but prices have radically gone up in Sweden. The $750 "does everything" mobo is closer to $1200 here. while the budget $200 Gigabyte Vision G is closer to $350.
i was waiting for the "and someone even took a bite from it" on the apex one lmao.
"I just bought the 750$ motherboard"
"ok cool, what gpu u got?"
"Ohh just a 2080super, couldent afford a 2080Ti"
*facepalm*
:D
a fool and his money...
At least he can keep the amazing motherboard and slap a 3080 in it thatll kill the 2080ti which just tanked in value
Is there any specific reason the Aorus master or Aorus extreme weren’t included? I know the VRMS were superior on the previous Z390 platform.
Wondering as well
Same
A word of warning: you cant use the 10 GbE AIC and the Thunderbolt 3 Ports at the same time it is one or the other.
Any thoughts on Z490 Aorus Elite AC?
Just to say another reason for the ASUS Z490 HERO is that it has a built in DAC for those who don't want to spend extra money on a DAC or don't need one of a super high quality just one good enough to push mid range speakers/headsets.
Any reason why Gigabyte's offerings didn't make it in to the list? Been eyeballing The aorus Master/Ultra for a little while, but now you guys have got me doubting my picks :p
This man is speaking in another language
Revisiting this video since I just noticed one thing. While the Intel Z and B series boards get the most attention, the opposite happens with the H7 series (like H470), which I rarely see reviews from tech channels. I feel like I'm among that niche user base who don't OC but have a lot of stuff to plug into PCI-E slots plus multiple HDDs, and H7 boards seem to offer that better than B boards (at least the H97 I'm currently using clearly does that better than my dead B85 board for sure). It'll be interesting if there are some level of coverage for that in the future.
in Australia, the Z490 boards are about $100 more than the equivalent X570 boards - if you can get them at all.
Did you look at the MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Carbon?
shit board
One thing about the Vision G it has a typo on the top where it says Sliver instead of Silver
Can you please do one for 2021? I'd love a breakdown of the Intel Z-590 chipset options.
So what is the better motherboard for overclocking?
Watching this video just makes me think that 2018 was probably the best time to build a computer. Really good B450 and X470 boards on the AMD side and Z370 boards that weren't a bunch of suck that didn't cost an arm and a leg.
@sonicchilidog 2018 was the year after most of that blew over, if I remember correctly. Mid-2017 was the worst, but mid to late 2018 was significantly better.
Not as good as we have it now though and maybe I'm remembering a couple things wrong. Currently very sleepy.
Guys, maybe you can make a video about the difference in Z490 boards sound systems. I purchased the Asus Z490-G based on it's Wi-Fi and sound capability. I did not really care about its other features. There are boards with built-in DACs which outperform almost any ~$100 DAC available on the market. Even just an ALC1220 with dual amps outperforms FiiO K3 for example. I would like to learn more about that
Buildzoid’s pc is running windows 7, you can tell because if you look at the top right it has the windows 7 style window buttons and if you pay close attention when his pc loads you have the vista/7 style spinning circle logo on the mouse cursor
Ordered MSI MEG Z490 ACE couple days ago to pair with a 10900k, only saw this video now. Hopefully I chose a good one.
LoL I loved hearing the frustration in your voice at the fact people are buying 700 dollar motherboards. I think everyone should have the Godlike board, it would solve just about every problem out there. Most people use their computers for more then one aspect that you've outlined here. Future proofing means less money spent overall
Buildzoid for President ! Finally a sign of life.
What's the story around 2:40 with MSI's "six layer tab daisy chain topology" ? 4400Mhz? Couldn't find any info on this topic anywhere.
I want to know what TB3 controller those ITX boards are using... it makes a large difference concerning throughput.
Also, no mention of Asrock’s Phantom Gaming ITX? That was the best ITX last gen...
Where is my msi gaming carbon? Was it not released at the time of the vid?
I live in India, and the prices of boards and other pc parts are inflated in online stores, and the offline stores are closed due to the current situation. Is there a solution I can work around this?
I am a student, currently about to turn 16 years old, and wanted to build a PC when I was 6th grade, which was about 4 years ago. Since then, I've been doing a lot of research on PC Parts, and watching a lot of reviews from your channel and other youtube channels like Linus tech tips, Bitwit, hardware unboxed etc. During the time period, I had been saving a lot of money in every possible way, such as not asking for birthday presents, not spending money on a lot of unnecessary items, and not going outside that frequently, which feels difficult for me, as I get decent grades, and my friends who score lower do a lot of fun playing outside, and currently have high end laptops which cost around a thousand dollars and play for 2 to 3 hours a day, while I do the research and study. I am not like them and don't do gaming and usually do a bit of gaming in the weekends.. I asked my parents on when I will get to build my new PC, and they after the exams, but I didn't know about which exams. And then I seceretly heard them say after my 10th grade exams, which made me had a bad mood inside. Fast forwarding to March which is 4 months ago before writing this comment, my 10th grade final exams have been completed, and I was about to go but at the same time the lockdown has started in my area. I have no other options other than to wait, which I have been doing *since the PAST 4 years.* It feels like All of the years of research had gone to waste, and I had missed so many things, like not attending any hangouts my friends do, and not enjoying my life like my friends did. Even today I feel the same, and now I am starting to feel that my parents are not allowing me to build my own pc, which is a shame as I fixed their issues like replacing a dead hard drive and recovering the data from it due to an OS level problem, and also fixed some of my neighbor's computers. They still won't let me do a part time job, even if I still get good grades and not waste my time. Other than researching, I don't do any gaming, because I don't have a good laptop, and even if it is an older title that works well, I still don't play.
This is the situation of me right now. A person who is willing to build a pc but have personal problems to overcome...
Also, can you suggest me a way, while buying pc parts, that have "gaming" in the name, or some products that have are usually have gaming-centric names? Not that I do frequent gaming, but some parts, like the msi z490 gaming edge WiFi is a very good board for 200 dollars and have all the features I need with future proofing for a mainstream board, but the problem is that when my parents see that it is built for "gaming" and have things like some aggressive designs, they are relating it to something like an Xbox or playstation., which is bought entirely for gaming. Even while watching your videos, my parents think that I am watching gaming videos and wasting my time.
@Gamers Nexus , if you are reading this comment, I hope that this comment was worth your time, because it took me an hour to write this comment, and also am a big time viewer of your channels. Love from India
I guarente there are comments asking for this sort of round up on B550 boards - My additiong to that request is to mention where, if at all the break to "Just get a Z series board" happens
I love my z490-I by ASUS and i7-10700K.
Best looking boards are full ATX or E-ATX, small ones are ugly ! 🤢🤮
You don't have the place to have a Mid or full sized case at home ?
1:32 Uh oh... my office PC use Z390 UD actually .. lol