I had that trimmer with a bad seal on the clutch side. Said it was NLA. Measured it up, looked in the CR catalog for a part number and went to my bearing supply house. $3. Away she went! Sometimes you get lucky with those throwaway trimmers. 99% of Dealers/Small Engine shops won't even touch them. I love a challenge!
This engine was in good shape even with the oil/carbon. Yea it needed a seal but it isn't really worth it. I may have a different machine for him. Juan just left with a load of scrap but I did put aside a few weaders that may come back. I will try to fix one and offer it for a good price.
They won't touch them because they're hourly labor rate is more than a used consumer grade trimmer is worth. They make sure of that, it's a major part of the sales pitch for getting home owners to buy the $350 professional grade. When you pay that much money for a trimmer then a yearly $130 service charge after the 2nd or 3rd year will seem cheap. Then after a few years of paying that you'll buy a new one. Let's face it any trimmer will start reliably after sitting around the first and maybe the second off season with no storage procedure, just tossed in the shed wet. Parts don't generally cost more for cheaper models. My $150 trimmer has a $32 OEM carb. Unless I'm mistaken that is about equivalent in price to a Stihl or Echo carb kit. But even then a $120/hr labor rate and a $32 OEM carb is $152(without parts markup), can you see how the math works? I've been in a shop buying parts and watched this scenario play out. Customer said it's only 2 years old and ran perfect the last use the prior season and now it won't start, he was quoted way more than it cost new. I said I'll take a look at it which irritated the shop owner. We went outside, I dumped his fuel in a Gatorade bottle purged the carb with the primer, added fuel from my can and fired it up. In under 10 minutes it cleaned up and ran perfect, with no tools, in the parking lot of the shop I did exactly what the shop would have charged $90 plus parts to do on what was then a $79 trimmer. When the shop owner came out after realizing what was going on he wasn't happy and I told his almost customer in front of him that what I did was exactly what they were going to charge him at least $90 to do. I told him at the end of the season drain the fuel and purge the carb just like I did and it'll fire up and run great on new fuel next season.
Anything can be fixed. Unless it was his dead grandfather's equipment that brings back good memories for the customer it's best to be honest and say put the $150 estimated bill towards a $179 Echo or Stihl with a 2 year warranty. Good vid Arch. Thanks for the Shout Out!! Dilly Dilly!
I've also found that when the compression is low on a 2 stroke engine the impulse signal is low as well and it cannot supply enough fuel to keep running. Changing from the Blue Acetate Pump diaphragm to the Brown Teflon diaphragm will pump easier. Just my 0.02
Good to know, I rarely change those, usually the engine is dead or I put a new carb on. Sooo hit or miss with these.. Found a kewl guy on youtube last night. He's upstate and has his own shop,, gonna message him to see if he would like to stop in our channels.. I subbed him but I forget his name..
I enjoy my electric hart weed eater. But I will say that for the really heavy stuff on my property I usually cut with the gas powerd weed eater. Most of my land tho I just use the electric.
@@TheNovaJohn for me the price of the batteries is the real problem man. its ridiculous, they want 150 dollars or somthin like that for one of the weed eater batteries
Hey, Arch! I've recently seen a few mentions online about adding ATF to slow leaking tires to stop the leaks. A lawn tractor I was working on had two tires that leaked down over the Winter - very low leaks. I added 4oz to each and drove it around to spread it over the entire inside of the tire. I know your special sauce of ATF/2-stroke fuel and use that a lot on gaskets, plus I know you have all sorts of other chemicals you use for various things, so I thought you'd be the one to ask this question. What are your thoughts on ATF into very slow leaking tires? Do you do that and is it very successful? Thx!
I often put very black oil mixed with gas about 50% on the Outside of old tires to help them seal up and remain flexible not to mention the carbon black makes them look a little better. I shy away from putting any oil on the inside because it will contaminate the tire and prevent the use of slime or fix a flat which is much better and these are latex water based products..
did you even think of pulling the muffler and checking the piston and rings for scoring and carbon build up in the ring groves? of course you didn't , your just another wanta be
yea, I mentioned I looked in the carb hole,,Not to mention the compression was good. Your just a another dick dude, get your own channel!! Us youtubers make fun of people like you
I had that trimmer with a bad seal on the clutch side. Said it was NLA. Measured it up, looked in the CR catalog for a part number and went to my bearing supply house. $3. Away she went! Sometimes you get lucky with those throwaway trimmers. 99% of Dealers/Small Engine shops won't even touch them. I love a challenge!
This engine was in good shape even with the oil/carbon. Yea it needed a seal but it isn't really worth it. I may have a different machine for him. Juan just left with a load of scrap but I did put aside a few weaders that may come back. I will try to fix one and offer it for a good price.
I have 4 or 5 Echo Trimmers (the old Gray ones) a customer dropped off hoping I could make one work! Challenge Accepted!!
Absolutely, I did one last year, came back great,, still haven't put that video up on the channel...Those are my favorites!
They won't touch them because they're hourly labor rate is more than a used consumer grade trimmer is worth. They make sure of that, it's a major part of the sales pitch for getting home owners to buy the $350 professional grade. When you pay that much money for a trimmer then a yearly $130 service charge after the 2nd or 3rd year will seem cheap. Then after a few years of paying that you'll buy a new one. Let's face it any trimmer will start reliably after sitting around the first and maybe the second off season with no storage procedure, just tossed in the shed wet.
Parts don't generally cost more for cheaper models. My $150 trimmer has a $32 OEM carb. Unless I'm mistaken that is about equivalent in price to a Stihl or Echo carb kit. But even then a $120/hr labor rate and a $32 OEM carb is $152(without parts markup), can you see how the math works?
I've been in a shop buying parts and watched this scenario play out. Customer said it's only 2 years old and ran perfect the last use the prior season and now it won't start, he was quoted way more than it cost new. I said I'll take a look at it which irritated the shop owner. We went outside, I dumped his fuel in a Gatorade bottle purged the carb with the primer, added fuel from my can and fired it up. In under 10 minutes it cleaned up and ran perfect, with no tools, in the parking lot of the shop I did exactly what the shop would have charged $90 plus parts to do on what was then a $79 trimmer. When the shop owner came out after realizing what was going on he wasn't happy and I told his almost customer in front of him that what I did was exactly what they were going to charge him at least $90 to do. I told him at the end of the season drain the fuel and purge the carb just like I did and it'll fire up and run great on new fuel next season.
Anything can be fixed. Unless it was his dead grandfather's equipment that brings back good memories for the customer it's best to be honest and say put the $150 estimated bill towards a $179 Echo or Stihl with a 2 year warranty. Good vid Arch. Thanks for the Shout Out!! Dilly Dilly!
Thanks Ken, I think I spelled ya channel name with one S,,sorry lol
This customer came back and dropped off his mower this morning!!!!
have a good week arch. We are going to west virgina this week for our 50th . i will still be on u tube down there to watch your videos
Congratts my friend!! Enjoy
I've also found that when the compression is low on a 2 stroke engine the impulse signal is low as well and it cannot supply enough fuel to keep running. Changing from the Blue Acetate Pump diaphragm to the Brown Teflon diaphragm will pump easier. Just my 0.02
Good to know, I rarely change those, usually the engine is dead or I put a new carb on. Sooo hit or miss with these..
Found a kewl guy on youtube last night. He's upstate and has his own shop,, gonna message him to see if he would like to stop in our channels.. I subbed him but I forget his name..
The more the merrier! We can always learn something from one another!
Nice one again uncle Arch. By the way, I love the upbeat piece of music you used here. Good instrumental to jam out to.
Right,, not to heavy but kewl sound...
That is a great question ❓ Archie
Hey bud!
@@TheNovaJohn hello there uncle Archie 🤣
Happy Monday Arch!
Thanks Johnny,, luved ya dishwasher video!
Great info
Hey Henry!!! How you??? Thanks fer watchin!!
I enjoy my electric hart weed eater. But I will say that for the really heavy stuff on my property I usually cut with the gas powerd weed eater. Most of my land tho I just use the electric.
Exactly!
I use my nice Stihl but if cash free's up a bit a simple electric for quick maintenance is key!
@@TheNovaJohn for me the price of the batteries is the real problem man. its ridiculous, they want 150 dollars or somthin like that for one of the weed eater batteries
Yup, again somethin I wanna chat about during a live show..
Now way out huh,, they got us coming and going!
Hey, Arch! I've recently seen a few mentions online about adding ATF to slow leaking tires to stop the leaks. A lawn tractor I was working on had two tires that leaked down over the Winter - very low leaks. I added 4oz to each and drove it around to spread it over the entire inside of the tire. I know your special sauce of ATF/2-stroke fuel and use that a lot on gaskets, plus I know you have all sorts of other chemicals you use for various things, so I thought you'd be the one to ask this question. What are your thoughts on ATF into very slow leaking tires? Do you do that and is it very successful? Thx!
I often put very black oil mixed with gas about 50% on the Outside of old tires to help them seal up and remain flexible not to mention the carbon black makes them look a little better.
I shy away from putting any oil on the inside because it will contaminate the tire and prevent the use of slime or fix a flat which is much better and these are latex water based products..
i flip them upside down and run them for a few minutes hear and there sometimes they run a little better
Good idea!
2 strock are time consuming and very boring 😁
Sooo true!
did you even think of pulling the muffler and checking the piston and rings for scoring and carbon build up in the ring groves? of course you didn't , your just another wanta be
yea, I mentioned I looked in the carb hole,,Not to mention the compression was good.
Your just a another dick dude, get your own channel!! Us youtubers make fun of people like you