I'm hazarding a guess here, but I think if you give Jago time, the number of subscribers to this highly subterranean channel will rise up to great heights.
When I first started watching the channel, he had barely a thousand subs to his name. Two years later he's got 142 thousand. So I'd say he's doing very well indeed!
I noticed that too. I will have ask both of them if they have met or did joint project together. However they both have their own unique style with respect to content and presentation both are excellent.
The first time they decided to burrow through Borough Station without bothering to close it down. This time they closed down Borough station even though the burrowing works are mostly done and across the river in another totally different borough.
I once worked on the Financial Times building at No.1 Southwark Bridge, most of my job consisted of explaining to people that it wasn't the entrance to Southwark tube station which is actually on Blackfriars Road and Union Street.
I did hear there was a similarly named station somewhere in Australia serving a factory complex where ovens and other kitchen equipment were manufactured. Evidently it was named The Cooker Borough.
Geez doesn’t it look a hideous rebuild. You’re right; it looks like either a bunker or a air vent/machine building or lavatory block - not an entrance (which seems an afterthought). It doesn’t even look 1980’s.
I used Borough station regularly until lockdown. I worked in the building in Marshalsea Road that abuts the station for many years before we moved across the junction into Great Dover Street. In the morning rush hour you often used to get people trying to go north from London Bridge take a train south to Borough in order to more easily get onto a northbound train.
Onzqrds qnd upzqrds1 (Sorry, I had the French keyboard on for some reason.) I was intending to say: Onwards and upwards! (I'd always thought the French said "En avant!" when they wished to move forwards, but, no, they evidently write it as "Onzqrds1". It might explain why Napoleon was eventually defeated - you need clear commands in battle, I believe.)
I remember location-scouting for some TV show around Borough in the '90's and coming across the sign saying 'Site of the Clink Prison' and having chills because I didn't even know The Clink was a real place! It was like I'd bumped into history! I had a quiet moment there - just me and Borough!
Trinity Church Square is worthy of a visit if you're in the vicinity of Borough tube station. If it wasn't for the parked cars you feel like you've gone back in time 200 years.
Fortunately, not being in the US, the railway never had to deal with the United States Board on Geographic Names, or Londoners would have had to put up with decades of the signs for the station spelling it "Boro". (Seriously, that's a thing that happened. A US federal government agency spent a fair part of the 20th century insisting that places with "-borough" in their names drop the "ugh" on official signage. The practice still lingers in, for instance, old highway signs that were put up during that period and haven't been replaced yet. There was also a huge and ridiculous controversy over whether Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania should really have an H in it.)
@@TomLuTon A Canadian railroad also randomly named a town in Alberta "Xena" (decades before the TV show), simply because it was between Watrous and Young on the line and no one could think of another X name. True story! :)
Gibbet, both a noun and a verb. Refers to the pre 19th century jolly old English practise of leaving the bodies of executed criminals to literally rot away, until skeletonized and falling to pieces, in public. And also of feeding the crows, hence 'carrion crows'.
@@tonywise198 - If there was a past miscreant called Millet, then certainly. I don't presently have any lists of Beggars, Mendicants, Vagabonds, Guttersnipes, Hobbledehoys, and other top gits, but It would have been bracingly smelly fun to watch Mr Millet 'feed the birds'.
@@robertmcgovern8850 No, actually it's the Trinity, a relatively unspoilt Fullers' pub, and an example of early 20th century Brewers' Tudor. Long time since I've been in there, since, when I lived in London, and was in that area, I would always tend to go to the Royal Oak, in Tabard St, which I believe is the only London tied house of Harvey's Brewery. Always a nice pint of Sussex Bitter and good home-cooked food.
For reasons I won't bore you with, Knightsbridge Crown Court used to be at Borough. We spent a lot of time waiting there for people who, perhaps not unreasonably, had gone to Knightsbridge instead.
Well known railway buff Pete Waterman has offices located on Borough high street. I have seen him many a time having lunch at the local Hing Loong restaurant.
The Bishop of Winchester owned enough of Borough to make harlotry one of his major streams of income, as it were. The bit of Mediaeval wall you showed was his town house, known as Winchester Palace. It is not recorded if the Right Reverend Bishop oversaw the collection of his due, but one hopes his mind was on higher things.
Borough does indeed look dated, I think it's because the 1980 rebuild was designed to look like a cheap version of a 19th century public convenience. BTW changing to Burgh in the 9th century would be about right because no doubt it was converted just after Alfred took Lundun back from the Danes to make it defendable from raiding parties.
Yep. The 'Burgh's' being fortified townships/villages, strategically placed throughout England, that were 'nodes of governance' (tax collection, military muster stations etc...) all Alfred's idea, along with the burgeoning 'English Royal Navy'.
I have a soft spot for Borough, I'm in the pub next door to it every Saturday afternoon. The fact I now have to get a bus or WALK to the pub from London Bridge until it's reopened vexes me somewhat.
I cycle by Borough every day for work. I think it's cool that a station can *not* stick out like a sore thumb. It may not be pretty, or full of signifiers pointing towards transport history, but it works. And that's what's cool.
Gotta agree with you about the architecture (or lack of). Even the Holden station feels a step back; I like the C&SL dome. The new one looks like a bad imitation of a Holden drum. Strangely I had never realised that London Bridge was omitted from the original C&SL. It seems a no-brainer now, but when there was nothing north of KWSt and the purpose was mainly to bring people from South London to the City, I guess it didn't seem a high priority. Even now there's a fair walk from the mainline to the tube.
Living in E&C at the turn of the century, Borough was architecturally one of my favourite stations because of its uncomplicated, smooth lines and the concrete roundel. It fitted in with the street scene, with the beautiful Art Deco building on the opposite side of the High Street. Then they did the lift upgrade and put the awful metal monstrosity on top. Thus ending my regard for Borough.
@@LMB222 2nd biggest. May I submit to you my hometown rail system... THE NEW YORK SUBWAY SYSTEM! Not the oldest in the world, to be sure. But by stations and total track milage, remains the world's largest! You're welcome...
Borough reminds me somewhat of Stepney Green with regard to its unlovely / unlovedness. Mind you it’s been tidied up a bit since I was commuting there in the ‘70’s. Enjoyed the story . . .
Being in London this past October I had opportunity to walk past this station, coming from the HMS Belfast and going to the Ministry of Sound for my niece's costume rave, and yes, it does look more like public toilets than a tube station. I do enjoy when I recognize the places as a place I too have been, thus my affinity for the channel.
Another wonderful video and particular to me as I lived round the corner for 18 years. Interestingly Pete Waterman had his studio behind Borough Tube in Vine Yard, Dave Prowse ( aka Darth Vader) had his gym opposite on Marshallsea Rd and the original Harrods store was established a couple of doors down at 228 Borough High St ( now a dry cleaners ) 😊
I do wonder what the company was thinking when it came to (re)building certain stations. Real estate in London is expensive, so why have a station building with no flats or offices above it?
The most interesting thing I learnt from this entertaining video was the fact that the 2 tube tunnels are one on top of the other - a really interesting fact. Cheers Jago 👍
Surprisingly I didn't see a link to Jago's excellent pendant video on the Borough tunnel collapse, so here it is: ruclips.net/video/eWaWfPDx69A/видео.html . A very interesting account of a narrow escape I never knew about. Tunnelling ain't easy, but at least they didn't swallow an entire building like they did at Heathrow. (Another good subject for a video?)
Jago loved the video. As usual your dry wit is much appreciated. I finally got to contribute to your wonderful channel via this new fangled dollar/heart symbol. I'd buy some merchandise if you had some. Keep up the good work
There used to be a recording studio at the top of what is now the Clink museum. I remember lumping amps and guitars up and down those stairs in the 90’s.
Just behind Borough Station is Vineyard Studios, home of the Famous 80's hit factory of Stock, Aitken and Waterman! I lived a few hundred meters from there and it was the station that began many, many journeys for us as kids in the 60's and 70's, not forgetting the Red Bus Rover tickets we would buy there to explore as far as the London Bus network would take us during the school holidays! I remember Whyteleaf south of Croydon was the furthest south we could get by bus, but this is an underground channel. sorry👍👍
@@rogerblackwood8815 We (siblings) often did the same. We'd go to Downe in Kent. Seemed miles out into the countryside - no place for a red bus! No.146 I recall.
@@stephenweston1807 Can you imagine where we would have ended up if the green line buses did the same ticket! Me and a few friends hopped on a goods train once up near Highbury, we ended up in Crewe! The police phoned our parents and they give us some money to get home after our parents deposited the same in the local police station! We got the book thrown at us when we eventually got me😖😖This was in the early seventies!
Great video as always. It's interesting how deep level tunnelling was a great inovation in South London, but somehow there is still a dearth of tube lines south of the river.
I think I read somewhere that other than the Northern Line route to Morden, most South London areas were harder to tunnel than soft clay northern London? Apparently it was only until more advanced tunnelling equipment was develope that it became more practical to tunnel further in South London?
The station is obviously a thinly-disguised UFO that London Transport were going to use to serve all stations simultaneously with its teleporters, rendering borough-specificity moot.
5k to go till 150k!! Love the Disclaimer about the "houses of ill dispute". Always get excited when I see you have posted. Boring Bunker of Borough Station , Station.
Big shout out to the guys that run the stall at Borough Market selling a large variety of top quality saucissons. My favourite market stall. Check them out!👍
If borough is a modern rendering of Burgh, it joins the distressingly long list of London names that are just defensive fortifications. Barbican , Tower Hill, Aldgate, Moorgate.
Looked so much better before the 80s rebuild.... Just the question why..??? LT done some daft things from the 80s...even though some bus garages looked good.... And then knocked down again... 😕 Great video as usual...
The original Globe and other theatres were not thought of as we now think of them; going to a theatre was not a respectable thing to do; a bit of a rough experience. 😁 As for Shakespeare himself, he lets say liked a good drink, in fact one of the taverns he frequented, where the Aldwych was created in the early 2Oth century, survived well into the nineteenth century, before wooden structure went into collapse; there is a nineteenth century photograph of it. 🍻 I wonder what the Saxons would make of Borough station and underground trains? 😁
Am I right in thinking that the map at 3:50 shows the the tube station at London Bridge as being on the north bank of the river!. I suppose the name could in theory apply to a station at either end of the eponymous bridge, but I've never seen any suggestion of it ever being anywhere other than at the south end. An error on the map?.
Do all underground station platforms have a dip/hump in the level? When the train comes comes in there is a higher or lower step up into the train, depending upon where you are standing. Is this carefully thought through, or did it just happen?
On surface railways they are called "Harrington Humps" and are a modular construction on cost grounds and installed to meet disability regulations. The first was installed at Harrington station in Cumbria. Underground humps are masonry construction and therefore strictly speaking are not Harrington humps.
Ok I thought the OP may have been referring to the design whereby many tube stations were built with a hump in the track to facilitate the slowing down and the speeding up on departure of the trains in the early days when electric traction was not powerful & which I think did start on this line. Not the more modern disability access step.
The answer to the question is no. Not all tube stations have a level boarding hump in situ. In fact, I believe they are still in the minority - you can look on a tube map and see where they are... Most tube platforms are still only accessible via a flight of stairs... So, as yet no humps installed either.
When you get the chance, mayhaps you could explain why the platforms on a number of stations are "hilly". Were levels not a thing back then or was it a part of the Victorian style I've never hears of. I'm not asking for an entire video on the ups and downs of the Tube's platforms, just a witty aside. Many thanks.
The City essentially bought Southwark, from the Crown, because it constituted the main invasion route from the South; much the same as how England held onto Calais for many centuries long after we’d been booted from everything bar the Channel Islands. (which is the only holding left, incidentally, entitling HMQ to be styled, as her maj is, Duke of Normandy) The Corporation still maintains ownership of similar strategic landholdings dotted around the South East, but it’s their continued possession of freeholds, in Southwark, that’s actually the chief source of its contemporary wealth.
This part of London has come up in the world over the last 20 years, so not sure why there isn’t an office or other large building built over the station.
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Wow, the original 1890 station was so elegant! The current one has the architectural finesse of a garden wall.
My garden wall is insulted
How does this channel not have more subscribers. Interesting content, eloquently narrated. I enjoy very much - thank you
I'm hazarding a guess here, but I think if you give Jago time, the number of subscribers to this highly subterranean channel will rise up to great heights.
When I first started watching the channel, he had barely a thousand subs to his name. Two years later he's got 142 thousand. So I'd say he's doing very well indeed!
you can make a clone account to increase Jago's subscribe count :D
Jago rules, his videos rule!
140k subs is a lot for the content type.
A nice win double today, new videos from Jago and Geoff Marshall within minutes of each other
FIGHT!!!!!!!
I just want to Geoff to comment saying thanks for the video, you are the Jago Hazzard to my Geoff Marshall. Then my life would be complete.
@@grahammcdonald3650 i need them to COLLAB. that'll complete MY life 😂
I noticed that too. I will have ask both of them if they have met or did joint project together. However they both have their own unique style with respect to content and presentation both are excellent.
@@ideuni mine will be complete if Britney Spears runs a bath for me…😂😀
The first time they decided to burrow through Borough Station without bothering to close it down. This time they closed down Borough station even though the burrowing works are mostly done and across the river in another totally different borough.
They neary got buried in the burrows at Borough the first time around... so they borrowed some wisdom to burrow through next time.
I once worked on the Financial Times building at No.1 Southwark Bridge, most of my job consisted of explaining to people that it wasn't the entrance to Southwark tube station which is actually on Blackfriars Road and Union Street.
In the tunnels, they "Borough" underground... I'll get my coat.
Security!!! Escort this Gentleman out!
I can dig it.
I'll let myself out...
You took this old pun from the previous video on the 1923 tunnel collapse - it sounded familiar so it's not even original
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I did hear there was a similarly named station somewhere in Australia serving a factory complex where ovens and other kitchen equipment were manufactured. Evidently it was named The Cooker Borough.
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I was there at the renaming ceremony on April the first.
@@simonwinter8839 I think you'll find it took place on 31st February.
@@cargy930 No,I'm never wrong about a date - apart from the date I got married to !!
@@simonwinter8839 Yep, they _never_ let you forget that one! :D
I liked the legal disclaimer 😂
I notice he didn't mention the Bishop's House of Ill Repute. Maybe his legal adviser thought it might not go down well with the current bishop.
A short walk from Borough station is one of my favourite pubs- the Market Porter. I could sure use a pint.
London is such an amazing city, so full of history. Go around the corner and you find more amazing things. From New England to Olde England, luv ya.
Interesting video. Is that Geoff Marshall @ 2:29 checking the number of steps?
Geez doesn’t it look a hideous rebuild. You’re right; it looks like either a bunker or a air vent/machine building or lavatory block - not an entrance (which seems an afterthought). It doesn’t even look 1980’s.
The thing on the roof makes it look like it's the air conditioning plant for the entire... well... borough.
reminds me of the N Line doc storage stations, and therefore, a slight win
I used Borough station regularly until lockdown. I worked in the building in Marshalsea Road that abuts the station for many years before we moved across the junction into Great Dover Street. In the morning rush hour you often used to get people trying to go north from London Bridge take a train south to Borough in order to more easily get onto a northbound train.
Among other things, I certainly got a chance to master the British pronunciation of "Borough"! 😁
Onzqrds qnd upzqrds1
(Sorry, I had the French keyboard on for some reason.) I was intending to say: Onwards and upwards!
(I'd always thought the French said "En avant!" when they wished to move forwards, but, no, they evidently write it as "Onzqrds1". It might explain why Napoleon was eventually defeated - you need clear commands in battle, I believe.)
Correct pronounciation of Borough is very thorough of you 😉
@@davidbull7210 That's pronunciation, not pronounciation! 😁
@@EElgar1857 Ah bolloucks 😂
I remember location-scouting for some TV show around Borough in the '90's and coming across the sign saying 'Site of the Clink Prison' and having chills because I didn't even know The Clink was a real place! It was like I'd bumped into history! I had a quiet moment there - just me and Borough!
It was in Borough station I saw a green 1940's train come through. It didn't stop, sadly. Otherwise I would have greatly enjoyed a ride on it!
Green Internally ? Dont think any were painted Green Externally - unless you mean the Yellow painted engineering locomotives and rolling stock ?
Trinity Church Square is worthy of a visit if you're in the vicinity of Borough tube station. If it wasn't for the parked cars you feel like you've gone back in time 200 years.
Fortunately, not being in the US, the railway never had to deal with the United States Board on Geographic Names, or Londoners would have had to put up with decades of the signs for the station spelling it "Boro".
(Seriously, that's a thing that happened. A US federal government agency spent a fair part of the 20th century insisting that places with "-borough" in their names drop the "ugh" on official signage. The practice still lingers in, for instance, old highway signs that were put up during that period and haven't been replaced yet. There was also a huge and ridiculous controversy over whether Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania should really have an H in it.)
I have understood that the various "-boros" in North Carolina are spelled that way by local preference rather than federal edict (e.g. Greensboro)?
@@jaakkomantyjarvi7515 maybe it’s a reflection of their wonderful education system. Keep it simple for the village idiots to spell.
Those U.S. government officials were -- _themselves_ -- renamed Burros.
Happened in Canada as well, but it was done by the railroads because 'the names are too long'. Hence Peterboro & Scarboro
@@TomLuTon A Canadian railroad also randomly named a town in Alberta "Xena" (decades before the TV show), simply because it was between Watrous and Young on the line and no one could think of another X name. True story! :)
I think the newest iteration of Borough station looks like a 1980s public convenience.
Wow 0:01 that facade has main character energy.
I just love the Cage hanging outside The Clink. There should be modern versions of this!
Gibbet, both a noun and a verb.
Refers to the pre 19th century jolly old English practise of leaving the bodies of executed criminals to literally rot away, until skeletonized and falling to pieces, in public. And also of feeding the crows, hence 'carrion crows'.
@@mickeydodds1 Thanks for that. I was really scratching my ancient head for the word gibbet.
So we're talking a giant bird feeder then? Marvelous.
@@stephenweston1807 Yep! Gibbet full of millett?
@@tonywise198 - If there was a past miscreant called Millet, then certainly. I don't presently have any lists of Beggars, Mendicants, Vagabonds, Guttersnipes, Hobbledehoys, and other top gits, but It would have been bracingly smelly fun to watch Mr Millet 'feed the birds'.
I love this area - really atmospheric and full of history.
What is the story of the timbered building two doors on the left? Genuine Tudor survival, or cheesy mimic?
@@robertmcgovern8850 Neither, really - between-the-wars build, definitely not genuine Tudor, but nothing especially cheesy about it.
@@rodjones117 Fair enuf.🙂 As long as it isn't Ye Olde Globe Gift Shoppe, we'll let it pass.😉
@@robertmcgovern8850 No, actually it's the Trinity, a relatively unspoilt Fullers' pub, and an example of early 20th century Brewers' Tudor. Long time since I've been in there, since, when I lived in London, and was in that area, I would always tend to go to the Royal Oak, in Tabard St, which I believe is the only London tied house of Harvey's Brewery. Always a nice pint of Sussex Bitter and good home-cooked food.
For reasons I won't bore you with, Knightsbridge Crown Court used to be at Borough.
We spent a lot of time waiting there for people who, perhaps not unreasonably, had gone to Knightsbridge instead.
One thing Jago doesn’t cause is a Hazard! 😂😂
Well known railway buff Pete Waterman has offices located on Borough high street. I have seen him many a time having lunch at the local Hing Loong restaurant.
That will be The Vineyard Studios where Stock, Aitken and Waterman ran "The Hit Factory" in the 80's?
The Bishop of Winchester owned enough of Borough to make harlotry one of his major streams of income, as it were. The bit of Mediaeval wall you showed was his town house, known as Winchester Palace. It is not recorded if the Right Reverend Bishop oversaw the collection of his due, but one hopes his mind was on higher things.
The whores of the area were kniqn as Winchester Geese because of the bishops' ownership of the area.
@@luxford60 good heavens!!!
Jago Hazard's Underground London: come for the content, stay for the history snippets
Borough does indeed look dated, I think it's because the 1980 rebuild was designed to look like a cheap version of a 19th century public convenience. BTW changing to Burgh in the 9th century would be about right because no doubt it was converted just after Alfred took Lundun back from the Danes to make it defendable from raiding parties.
Yep. The 'Burgh's' being fortified townships/villages, strategically placed throughout England, that were 'nodes of governance' (tax collection, military muster stations etc...) all Alfred's idea, along with the burgeoning 'English Royal Navy'.
Boro, to me, is Middlesbrough FC!
Seeing a Jago Hazzard video before it hits 1K+ views? I shall gladly enjoy this mundane occurrence.
I've a real soft spot for Borough as my favourite pub in the city is just around the corner
"Bugger Borough"
As King George VI might have said.
Nice one...King George V (sorry to be such an anorak!)
I have a soft spot for Borough, I'm in the pub next door to it every Saturday afternoon. The fact I now have to get a bus or WALK to the pub from London Bridge until it's reopened vexes me somewhat.
I cycle by Borough every day for work. I think it's cool that a station can *not* stick out like a sore thumb. It may not be pretty, or full of signifiers pointing towards transport history, but it works. And that's what's cool.
Gotta agree with you about the architecture (or lack of). Even the Holden station feels a step back; I like the C&SL dome. The new one looks like a bad imitation of a Holden drum. Strangely I had never realised that London Bridge was omitted from the original C&SL. It seems a no-brainer now, but when there was nothing north of KWSt and the purpose was mainly to bring people from South London to the City, I guess it didn't seem a high priority. Even now there's a fair walk from the mainline to the tube.
Living in E&C at the turn of the century, Borough was architecturally one of my favourite stations because of its uncomplicated, smooth lines and the concrete roundel. It fitted in with the street scene, with the beautiful Art Deco building on the opposite side of the High Street.
Then they did the lift upgrade and put the awful metal monstrosity on top. Thus ending my regard for Borough.
@@sapiotone Thanks for that explanation.
The fact that Borough Station has been rebuilt several times and yet still doesn't use escalators is kinda ridiculous.
Entire tube is ridiculous if you live in London. It must be the biggest running museum in the World.
@@LMB222 2nd biggest. May I submit to you my hometown rail system... THE NEW YORK SUBWAY SYSTEM! Not the oldest in the world, to be sure. But by stations and total track milage, remains the world's largest! You're welcome...
@@JoseMorales-lw5nt And no fare zones. It may seriously suck in other ways though.
@@emjayay Well, it's in New York, for starters. _heyoooooo_
Nice one jago 👍🏻🇬🇧
Borough reminds me somewhat of Stepney Green with regard to its unlovely / unlovedness. Mind you it’s been tidied up a bit since I was commuting there in the ‘70’s. Enjoyed the story . . .
Being in London this past October I had opportunity to walk past this station, coming from the HMS Belfast and going to the Ministry of Sound for my niece's costume rave, and yes, it does look more like public toilets than a tube station. I do enjoy when I recognize the places as a place I too have been, thus my affinity for the channel.
wicked gag with the caption. feels like the boundaries of comedy are being tinkered with politely, new ground being explored there lol
Another wonderful video and particular to me as I lived round the corner for 18 years. Interestingly Pete Waterman had his studio behind Borough Tube in Vine Yard, Dave Prowse ( aka Darth Vader) had his gym opposite on Marshallsea Rd and the original Harrods store was established a couple of doors down at 228 Borough High St ( now a dry cleaners ) 😊
Lovely! Settle home from a long day with a cosy Jago video.
I do wonder what the company was thinking when it came to (re)building certain stations. Real estate in London is expensive, so why have a station building with no flats or offices above it?
Sometimes you want your station to stand out - and possible fire risk or escape of water
Excellent, informative and entertaining as ever Mr Jago.
The most interesting thing I learnt from this entertaining video was the fact that the 2 tube tunnels are one on top of the other - a really interesting fact. Cheers Jago 👍
I learnt something new today, thanks
Special memories..thanks for this
Surprisingly I didn't see a link to Jago's excellent pendant video on the Borough tunnel collapse, so here it is: ruclips.net/video/eWaWfPDx69A/видео.html . A very interesting account of a narrow escape I never knew about. Tunnelling ain't easy, but at least they didn't swallow an entire building like they did at Heathrow. (Another good subject for a video?)
Great video😊
Jago loved the video. As usual your dry wit is much appreciated. I finally got to contribute to your wonderful channel via this new fangled dollar/heart symbol. I'd buy some merchandise if you had some. Keep up the good work
Even the most unloved station deserves a video of its own...and now it has one. Thanks Jago.
There used to be a recording studio at the top of what is now the Clink museum. I remember lumping amps and guitars up and down those stairs in the 90’s.
Just behind Borough Station is Vineyard Studios, home of the Famous 80's hit factory of Stock, Aitken and Waterman! I lived a few hundred meters from there and it was the station that began many, many journeys for us as kids in the 60's and 70's, not forgetting the Red Bus Rover tickets we would buy there to explore as far as the London Bus network would take us during the school holidays! I remember Whyteleaf south of Croydon was the furthest south we could get by bus, but this is an underground channel. sorry👍👍
@@rogerblackwood8815 We (siblings) often did the same. We'd go to Downe in Kent. Seemed miles out into the countryside - no place for a red bus! No.146 I recall.
@@stephenweston1807 Can you imagine where we would have ended up if the green line buses did the same ticket! Me and a few friends hopped on a goods train once up near Highbury, we ended up in Crewe! The police phoned our parents and they give us some money to get home after our parents deposited the same in the local police station! We got the book thrown at us when we eventually got me😖😖This was in the early seventies!
Worked at the Clink in '84-86 when it was a rehearsal studio.
I used the studio a couple of times so we may have met. Hello again!
@@ianthomson9363 Hello 😃
Very informative as usual! I don't think I have ever used this station!
Borough is a station I have never found a reason to use. Still I do enjoy Jago's jaunts on our behalf.
Borough - It's all gone a bit Meta!
It's about time my local station had a video
Great video
Thank you Mr H. You have made a captivating video out of an uninspiring subject. Ta. Simon T
Great video as always. It's interesting how deep level tunnelling was a great inovation in South London, but somehow there is still a dearth of tube lines south of the river.
What proportion of South London Tunnelling increased when the Battersea Power Station extension was built.
I think I read somewhere that other than the Northern Line route to Morden, most South London areas were harder to tunnel than soft clay northern London? Apparently it was only until more advanced tunnelling equipment was develope that it became more practical to tunnel further in South London?
The least used zone 1 station perhaps? I’ve been past it plenty of times but never had the need to get off there. As ever, great stuff!
I think that's actually Lambeth North
The station is obviously a thinly-disguised UFO that London Transport were going to use to serve all stations simultaneously with its teleporters, rendering borough-specificity moot.
5k to go till 150k!! Love the Disclaimer about the "houses of ill dispute". Always get excited when I see you have posted. Boring Bunker of Borough Station , Station.
Another great video, and so many Boroughs, I think a case Jago of pushing your own wheelborough! sorry that wasn't very punny.... Drew
Big shout out to the guys that run the stall at Borough Market selling a large variety of top quality saucissons. My favourite market stall. Check them out!👍
Good one Jago 👍
Thanks
0.55 My great great grandfather lived in Bear Gardens.
Good video keep up the good work 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thanks Jago,
You could always try to interpose Borough with the Chas'n'Dave song Rabbit. See how many "Borough " could count then
If borough is a modern rendering of Burgh, it joins the distressingly long list of London names that are just defensive fortifications. Barbican , Tower Hill, Aldgate, Moorgate.
"Borough, Borough, Borough, wonderful Borough..." from the musical "Boroughlot".
Looked so much better before the 80s rebuild.... Just the question why..??? LT done some daft things from the 80s...even though some bus garages looked good.... And then knocked down again... 😕 Great video as usual...
Yes, why, was Borough Station rebuilt ? What is the least used (Tube) Station in Zone 1 ?
The original Globe and other theatres were not thought of as we now think of them; going to a theatre was not a respectable thing to do; a bit of a rough experience. 😁
As for Shakespeare himself, he lets say liked a good drink, in fact one of the taverns he frequented, where the Aldwych was created in the early 2Oth century, survived well into the nineteenth century, before wooden structure went into collapse; there is a nineteenth century photograph of it. 🍻
I wonder what the Saxons would make of Borough station and underground trains? 😁
Are the abandoned tunnels under the Thames still accessible to maintenance staff?
Am I right in thinking that the map at 3:50 shows the the tube station at London Bridge as being on the north bank of the river!. I suppose the name could in theory apply to a station at either end of the eponymous bridge, but I've never seen any suggestion of it ever being anywhere other than at the south end. An error on the map?.
Cheers jags, my station from the 70's and the huge concrete roundel gets a mention, is it the only unpainted one on the system?
Unless I'm mixing up stations, the connecting walkways are (were) so windy when trains come in or out. Like a vacuum tube.
Do all underground station platforms have a dip/hump in the level? When the train comes comes in there is a higher or lower step up into the train, depending upon where you are standing. Is this carefully thought through, or did it just happen?
I think they added the higher step to have step free access onto the trains
On surface railways they are called "Harrington Humps" and are a modular construction on cost grounds and installed to meet disability regulations. The first was installed at Harrington station in Cumbria. Underground humps are masonry construction and therefore strictly speaking are not Harrington humps.
Ok I thought the OP may have been referring to the design whereby many tube stations were built with a hump in the track to facilitate the slowing down and the speeding up on departure of the trains in the early days when electric traction was not powerful & which I think did start on this line. Not the more modern disability access step.
The answer to the question is no.
Not all tube stations have a level boarding hump in situ.
In fact, I believe they are still in the minority - you can look on a tube map and see where they are...
Most tube platforms are still only accessible via a flight of stairs... So, as yet no humps installed either.
Oh, and I think the only line with a step down into trains is at the west end of the Piccadilly?
I'm sure someone will correct that if I'm wrong 😃
5:55 if it’s within the congestion charge and is in zone 1, I would say it is, which both borough and Southwark are.
The little station that could... and did... and will do again after May 2022.
Jago, I wish you'd explain what that kink in the platform is at Borough, and why it's there.
Yes please I've noticed it in other stations.
Agreed. It manages to look ugly on the outside while still being cramped inside!
Could you cover Ravenscourt Park?
It was my home station.
When you get the chance, mayhaps you could explain why the platforms on a number of stations are "hilly". Were levels not a thing back then or was it a part of the Victorian style I've never hears of. I'm not asking for an entire video on the ups and downs of the Tube's platforms, just a witty aside. Many thanks.
im sure Jago will do his level best
I agree not glamorous, feels like a smaller station in the outskirts of London but it gets me where I need to go!
The current surface building looks like one of the entrances to the Northern Line deep-level shelters.
I "Boroughly" enjoyed this video!
The City essentially bought Southwark, from the Crown, because it constituted the main invasion route from the South; much the same as how England held onto Calais for many centuries long after we’d been booted from everything bar the Channel Islands. (which is the only holding left, incidentally, entitling HMQ to be styled, as her maj is, Duke of Normandy)
The Corporation still maintains ownership of similar strategic landholdings dotted around the South East, but it’s their continued possession of freeholds, in Southwark, that’s actually the chief source of its contemporary wealth.
Thanks for explaining why I have seen various Corp of London badges around the place, some in Lambeth too! Very interesting👍👍
I’m sure this will be boroughly thorough
Only Jago could make something so mundane sound so interesting.
it looks like it would be a Transformer station or power station for the tube....lol
At 6:42 is the platform undulating?
Surprised that you didn't mention the spiral staircase from ground level to the platforms.
Yes thank , Very interesting as always I do agree with you the borough station facade does look a bit well like a public toilet not very glamorous
LOL that's my office on the right in the first scene.
It looks like a public convenience (and old fashioned amenity they used to have in the old days)
Borough High Street and no mention of Chaucher - or the Kings Head or is it The George (?) Pub/Inn
This part of London has come up in the world over the last 20 years, so not sure why there isn’t an office or other large building built over the station.
Burg ( a defended place ?). How does this compare with Burgh Heath in Surrey?
Can you make a video on the Broadwater Farm Estate Riot?