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Remember, the ai isn't making up these suggestions on the spot or out of thin air. It's taking all its cues from what's already been done. And it's not the rare cases, oh no, this is all the most commonly done methods. The things that get suggested multiple times, from multiple sources. The ai isn't being cruel and evil. It's just following the example its 'parents' gave it.
Its crazy how motivating an AI purely by profit makes it immediately dive into every corrupt methodology nearly immediately. It nearly categorically explained how government corruption works lol.
@@WilliamLDeRieuxIV Yeah, I don't exactly wonder myself. I get it. Although I also don't conflate capitalism to purely a profit motive. Nor do I deny we need some socialist policies, better regulation of antitrust crimes, and better laws to counter corruption; which using an AI in this way could help inform.
@@SmokeandSpirit > I also don't conflate capitalism to purely a profit motive Well it's very easy for capitalists to be consumed with greed (they only see dollar signs), thus, capitalism is a gateway that can lead to them thinking that it is ok to exploit the people (like the AI did) just because it might be more profitable. In other words, capitalism enables them.
@@WilliamLDeRieuxIV Most certainly. Just people have complex arrays of motivations and values. They are not a purely one dimensional expression no matter what system they exist in. Also money is a multipliar of the expression of those values, not the determinor of, said values. I wouldnt deny some people are susceptible to greed induced brain rot. I don't think its the cause of it though. Though the fact that anyone can reach absurd levels of wealth is silly. There's no value to having that much power concentrated in ones hands. It destroys the balance of power in society and the government and puts all of our well being at risk. Especially if we cannot ensure its left in the hands of those who would create the most shared value with it. If capitalism has any strong flaw its that it doesnt reward honest people with the higher reward, so the dishonest gain more power. This is why it needs to be counterbalanced at least in some respect with socialistic ideals imo. Regulation can only go so far. Wealth caps and basic income may indeed become an inevitability by the time true AI automation gets here anyways. The only reason i dont speak complete ill will on capitalism is its just free enterprise and ill cling to that freedom until the day i die. So its not capitlism itself thats messed up its uncapped capitalism or capitalism on meth like we have now or this "greed is good" bullshit.
The part about 'blocking affluent neighbourhoods from low income areas with barriers like highways' makes me wonder if this AI is just the CS version of Robert Moses
As many psychologists and computer scientists pointed out ChatGPT and similar software are not true AI. They just collect information out there and replicate it without any creative addition whatsoever. I think this video demonstrates that very well.
Even these large language models like GPT, which like you said are not actual AGI, all seem to have one thing in common. They are more than happy to help troubleshoot how to eliminate the human problem. We are an incredible, brilliantly stupid species for certain. We know this will end badly but we are going to do it anyway. 🧐☠
A low funded fire department (or any other government service) doesn’t mean that it’s low funded across the whole city (/state/country in real life). It means that the services near the rich people are very well funded, the services near the well off are okay, and the services for the majority of the city are very low to make up for the extravagant funding in the rich areas. If Cities: Skylines 2 had areas where racial minorities lived then the service levels would be at the level just enough so that the rich would not notice the people and their suffering.
That's the US way of public services : everything is highly decentralized, then public services funding are directly linked to local wealth with very low state help (and more lower federal state help...). This isn't the european way, like here in France for example, where most of public services are state level funding and partially local gestion. In fact, poorest counties benefit more funding in education (best way to leave poverty) or public safety (poverty = more crime, unfortunately), for example. Access to health services is the same for everyone and doesn't depend on personal wealth. This is a more fair system and bring more chances for everyone to prosper despite their origin, but it's also a very expensive way and less business friendly, nothing is perfect.
Wait, I never paid close attention to the fire trucks in CS2 but I KNOW in CS1 there were actual firemen who would run out of the truck and spray water and stuff... In the base game. At launch. But tell me again that CS2 is a proper sequel.
@@Dramn_ It's not awful. The problem with CS2 is that it's not an upgrade it's a side - grade. It has a bunch of stuff it does do really well - like building roads and setting transport lines just work better in CS2. But there are also so many things it does so much worse, like mod support, and simple details like firefighters putting out the fire or, you know, fences. I still can't believe fences weren't in the base game!
@@heavyarms55 the power of technology does wonders! Jokes aside, it looks goofy when the firetrucks just go to the house, kill the fire, don't elaborate, then leave. As funny as it is, I really hope it was a dumb oversight by the devs
Worlds Gonverned by artificial intelligence often learned a hard lesson:Logic Doesn't Care. -Yin-Man Wei, This Present Darkness: A History of the Interregnum CY 11956
I get the impression that AI is a Alpha Release still using placeholder assets till it can get its actual real assets installed... including but not limited to its glowy evil red eyes and devil horns. :P
the great irony is that a lot of the advice that sounds the most evil isn't actually very profitable. If your goal was absolute maximal profits, building all of your infrastructure somewhere prone to natural disasters is... well it's a questionable choice to say the least. (Cheap land is cheap for a reason) The whole monopolization of basic infrastructure thing though checks out, I mean that's basically the entire job of politicians.
As crazy as it sounds, its actually something people have done, and still do. IDK how well it would work on a city scale, but many smaller communities have been intentionally set up in places where maintaining them would be a constant and expensive process, then put them under contracts that force the community members to keep going through specific companies to repair said damage. Or presented themselves as the only option for repairs in that area. The most popular places such such scams are drained swamps, low land near underwater rivers, and sand beds, places where foundation work have a very short lifespan no matter how durable it looks at first.
@@FastForwardPlans if a company is the one that built the town, its *_their_* money that is wasted from building stupidly. Making investments that you know will fail is bad business, plain and simple. Politicians however, *_they_* can spend other people's money,, so yes there is actually a strong incentive for them to encourage building in poor locations and then either take money under the table, invest, run, etc. a business for repairs. The side at fault there however is the politician/public-governance side of the equation, not the investor/private-enterprise side of the equation though since only the former has the ability to draw in money that isn't already theirs. It's forcing *_other_* people to make poor investments by spending their taxes poorly *_then_* capturing some of the value when those investments fail. If I *_force_* you to spend 100 dollars buying dogecoin on the agreement that whenever you sell your dogecoin I'll get 50% of the revenue, then even if you lose 99% of your investment, I'll still come out of it two quarters richer because I never had to invest any of *_my_* money, yet I was able to capitalize on your losses that I forced onto you. Suddenly I don't have to give a damn about whether the investment is actually profitable, because if you lose 50% of your value (and I take another 50%) then I gain 25 dollars if you spend 100 dollars. However, if you spend 100,000 dollars and you lose 90% of your value, I still gain 5000 dollars. If it's not my money that's lost, I don't need to care if the investment is good, so long as I can spend a lot of it. If, however, I'm forced to make investments with my *_own_* money, then I kinda don't want to spend it on things that I know won't hold their value. Can that still happen? Sure, but there is an incredibly strong selective pressure against it since it's bad business that loses you money.
nobody. Well, I think Kibitz suggested a personality for a fun video, but it knows to do these things PURELY by reading lots of human text and learning from it. It is just mimicking a human. Any "programming" they tried to put on it actually LOWERED all evil things it might say. By default, it just read all books, all internet, and figured out what to do by all those examples.
Liking the Dystopian AI controlled future. Will we see Escape From Proprisa in the future? With Kibitz Plissken jumping in to save the totalitarian ruler? 😂
*to self:* this is just a kibz video, you can remain calm, take everything he says with a grain of salt, the man isn't really advocating for a horrible capitalistic world, it's just sarcasm and third degree, please let it just be sarcasm and third degree... oh no he's got AI generated content now... please let this be satire please please please
I thought I was pretty jaded and cynical already, but the fact that the "AI" is pulling all of that from real world training data shows me I underestimated how evil humanity is.
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"Doint solve problems, Leverage problems" You would make a great politician :D
Remember, the ai isn't making up these suggestions on the spot or out of thin air. It's taking all its cues from what's already been done. And it's not the rare cases, oh no, this is all the most commonly done methods. The things that get suggested multiple times, from multiple sources. The ai isn't being cruel and evil. It's just following the example its 'parents' gave it.
Its crazy how motivating an AI purely by profit makes it immediately dive into every corrupt methodology nearly immediately. It nearly categorically explained how government corruption works lol.
@@SmokeandSpirit And then lots of people wonder why there's so much push-back on capitalism.
@@WilliamLDeRieuxIV Yeah, I don't exactly wonder myself. I get it. Although I also don't conflate capitalism to purely a profit motive. Nor do I deny we need some socialist policies, better regulation of antitrust crimes, and better laws to counter corruption; which using an AI in this way could help inform.
@@SmokeandSpirit > I also don't conflate capitalism to purely a profit motive
Well it's very easy for capitalists to be consumed with greed (they only see dollar signs), thus, capitalism is a gateway that can lead to them thinking that it is ok to exploit the people (like the AI did) just because it might be more profitable. In other words, capitalism enables them.
@@WilliamLDeRieuxIV Most certainly. Just people have complex arrays of motivations and values. They are not a purely one dimensional expression no matter what system they exist in. Also money is a multipliar of the expression of those values, not the determinor of, said values. I wouldnt deny some people are susceptible to greed induced brain rot. I don't think its the cause of it though.
Though the fact that anyone can reach absurd levels of wealth is silly. There's no value to having that much power concentrated in ones hands. It destroys the balance of power in society and the government and puts all of our well being at risk. Especially if we cannot ensure its left in the hands of those who would create the most shared value with it.
If capitalism has any strong flaw its that it doesnt reward honest people with the higher reward, so the dishonest gain more power. This is why it needs to be counterbalanced at least in some respect with socialistic ideals imo. Regulation can only go so far. Wealth caps and basic income may indeed become an inevitability by the time true AI automation gets here anyways. The only reason i dont speak complete ill will on capitalism is its just free enterprise and ill cling to that freedom until the day i die. So its not capitlism itself thats messed up its uncapped capitalism or capitalism on meth like we have now or this "greed is good" bullshit.
The part about 'blocking affluent neighbourhoods from low income areas with barriers like highways' makes me wonder if this AI is just the CS version of Robert Moses
With an interesting EARLY LIFE section.
I sure do love living next to incinerators
good reminder of how little your life in the united kingdom is worth
Jamaicanism 🇯🇪🇬🇬
As many psychologists and computer scientists pointed out ChatGPT and similar software are not true AI. They just collect information out there and replicate it without any creative addition whatsoever.
I think this video demonstrates that very well.
Even these large language models like GPT, which like you said are not actual AGI, all seem to have one thing in common. They are more than happy to help troubleshoot how to eliminate the human problem. We are an incredible, brilliantly stupid species for certain. We know this will end badly but we are going to do it anyway. 🧐☠
Terrific that this is how we are managed. Not in our best interest.
Welcome to Cities SKYNET??? Seriously tho, Do you want Skynet... cause this is how we get skynet!
LOL skynet hahaha this is how it is now were do you thank thew Billions in tax's goes lol
underrated comment right here
Holy shit, the A.I already knows the capitalism playbook of evil. I'm both impressed and concerned
the AI is trained by USA gov historic data with city planning/social issue
No Wonder it was evil
My god, it's full of stars
A low funded fire department (or any other government service) doesn’t mean that it’s low funded across the whole city (/state/country in real life). It means that the services near the rich people are very well funded, the services near the well off are okay, and the services for the majority of the city are very low to make up for the extravagant funding in the rich areas. If Cities: Skylines 2 had areas where racial minorities lived then the service levels would be at the level just enough so that the rich would not notice the people and their suffering.
Just like real life
That's the US way of public services : everything is highly decentralized, then public services funding are directly linked to local wealth with very low state help (and more lower federal state help...). This isn't the european way, like here in France for example, where most of public services are state level funding and partially local gestion. In fact, poorest counties benefit more funding in education (best way to leave poverty) or public safety (poverty = more crime, unfortunately), for example. Access to health services is the same for everyone and doesn't depend on personal wealth. This is a more fair system and bring more chances for everyone to prosper despite their origin, but it's also a very expensive way and less business friendly, nothing is perfect.
Wait, I never paid close attention to the fire trucks in CS2 but I KNOW in CS1 there were actual firemen who would run out of the truck and spray water and stuff...
In the base game.
At launch.
But tell me again that CS2 is a proper sequel.
Yea its awful
To be fair, the city didnt budget enough to hire actual firefighters. So sentient fire trucks will do
@@Renavo I feel like that would be more expensive though...
@@Dramn_ It's not awful. The problem with CS2 is that it's not an upgrade it's a side - grade. It has a bunch of stuff it does do really well - like building roads and setting transport lines just work better in CS2.
But there are also so many things it does so much worse, like mod support, and simple details like firefighters putting out the fire or, you know, fences. I still can't believe fences weren't in the base game!
@@heavyarms55 the power of technology does wonders!
Jokes aside, it looks goofy when the firetrucks just go to the house, kill the fire, don't elaborate, then leave.
As funny as it is, I really hope it was a dumb oversight by the devs
Worlds Gonverned by artificial intelligence often learned a hard lesson:Logic Doesn't Care.
-Yin-Man Wei, This Present Darkness: A History of the Interregnum CY 11956
is that from Alpha Centauri?
@@TheSykoRC andromeda acendant
I get the impression that AI is a Alpha Release still using placeholder assets till it can get its actual real assets installed... including but not limited to its glowy evil red eyes and devil horns. :P
aaaaaand that's basically why people somehow are afraid of AI but not themselves. It's like looking in the mirror.
so the ai wanted to make usa ^_-
isnt this just china ? Massive polution and put people to work 24/7
This is literally how we Europeans imagine the US works.
@@rikopals Only in Democrat (Blue) areas like Chicago, San Francisco, NYC, etc.
@@crazysquid0227 good job bringing politics into this. we all know there is practically no difference between red and blue in the USA
@@leonardochapman4736agreed. Literally every city is built the same whether it’s Democrat or Republican runned
So you just made LA
It's uncanny how similar this is to real life! 😆😆
the great irony is that a lot of the advice that sounds the most evil isn't actually very profitable. If your goal was absolute maximal profits, building all of your infrastructure somewhere prone to natural disasters is... well it's a questionable choice to say the least. (Cheap land is cheap for a reason) The whole monopolization of basic infrastructure thing though checks out, I mean that's basically the entire job of politicians.
As crazy as it sounds, its actually something people have done, and still do. IDK how well it would work on a city scale, but many smaller communities have been intentionally set up in places where maintaining them would be a constant and expensive process, then put them under contracts that force the community members to keep going through specific companies to repair said damage. Or presented themselves as the only option for repairs in that area.
The most popular places such such scams are drained swamps, low land near underwater rivers, and sand beds, places where foundation work have a very short lifespan no matter how durable it looks at first.
@@FastForwardPlans if a company is the one that built the town, its *_their_* money that is wasted from building stupidly. Making investments that you know will fail is bad business, plain and simple. Politicians however, *_they_* can spend other people's money,, so yes there is actually a strong incentive for them to encourage building in poor locations and then either take money under the table, invest, run, etc. a business for repairs. The side at fault there however is the politician/public-governance side of the equation, not the investor/private-enterprise side of the equation though since only the former has the ability to draw in money that isn't already theirs.
It's forcing *_other_* people to make poor investments by spending their taxes poorly *_then_* capturing some of the value when those investments fail. If I *_force_* you to spend 100 dollars buying dogecoin on the agreement that whenever you sell your dogecoin I'll get 50% of the revenue, then even if you lose 99% of your investment, I'll still come out of it two quarters richer because I never had to invest any of *_my_* money, yet I was able to capitalize on your losses that I forced onto you. Suddenly I don't have to give a damn about whether the investment is actually profitable, because if you lose 50% of your value (and I take another 50%) then I gain 25 dollars if you spend 100 dollars. However, if you spend 100,000 dollars and you lose 90% of your value, I still gain 5000 dollars. If it's not my money that's lost, I don't need to care if the investment is good, so long as I can spend a lot of it.
If, however, I'm forced to make investments with my *_own_* money, then I kinda don't want to spend it on things that I know won't hold their value. Can that still happen? Sure, but there is an incredibly strong selective pressure against it since it's bad business that loses you money.
I was hoping so much to hear the "buh-bye" performed by the fried TTS at the end, and my prayers to the Great AI have been heard!
Kibitz: "how do I best grow this city?"
The Bot: "RACISM!"
I'm concerned who programmed this thing.
It said wealth segregation
nobody. Well, I think Kibitz suggested a personality for a fun video, but it knows to do these things PURELY by reading lots of human text and learning from it. It is just mimicking a human. Any "programming" they tried to put on it actually LOWERED all evil things it might say. By default, it just read all books, all internet, and figured out what to do by all those examples.
Liking the Dystopian AI controlled future. Will we see Escape From Proprisa in the future? With Kibitz Plissken jumping in to save the totalitarian ruler? 😂
This felt like breaking the 4th wall because theres so much redlining like this where I live
Love the twist at the end, though i expected to see some signs midway through.
:)
*to self:* this is just a kibz video, you can remain calm, take everything he says with a grain of salt, the man isn't really advocating for a horrible capitalistic world, it's just sarcasm and third degree, please let it just be sarcasm and third degree... oh no he's got AI generated content now... please let this be satire please please please
This video was really creatively done 😆 Great work bud!
Machiavellian AI. I love it
Why would I not be surprised if most city managers follow this same AI management criteria.
lol - I love the first 3 min. Subscribed!
15 seconds in: Interesting.
2 minutes in: OMG YES 😂
that city really resembles los angeles eh makes sense
Can we get a series of this collab?
your vids are 100% cool!
bro just introduced the video saying skibidi skylines
LOL, this AI assist. game was funny! Good stuff Kibitz!
I thought I was pretty jaded and cynical already, but the fact that the "AI" is pulling all of that from real world training data shows me I underestimated how evil humanity is.
This ai is like Neuro-sama, Neuro tells you to do good things for the cities, then evil Neuro tells you to do bad things that let the cities burn.
I think it's better to NEVER let any AI control the world. xD
Eh, its about the same as what happened in the real world.
It really says alot about the writers of the AI for how much it keeps talking about exploiting the people for profit and power.
Me screaming at the screen because the water pump is gonna get everyone sick
This scares me a little. I love it!
Wait a sec... Cities Skylines seriously doesn't have freakin TOLL ROADS??? *flips a table*
Yay more skylines 2 content
12:02 POV you finally afford a house in this market and you're trying not to see or hear all the crappy industry around you
I think this is the best video you have ever made.
What in the name of Asimov did you set ChatGPT to?! Captain planet villain mode?!
13:25 As long as the police person is Maegan Hall, everything is fine!
I like how all the AI's advice for to how to make a billion dollars start with "have a lot of money"
You could try surviving mars, its really fun
new city skylines, but every building that can be upgraded you have to max upgrade
🤣 Its scary how accurate this is!
This looks like my city, no joke. Probably not the layout of the place.. but just how its run.. 1 to 1 representation
Dude at 12:02 was HIGH AF
Everything is fine, because this game was also made with AI, others cannot explain its problems.
gpt was shockingly honest about how and why things are done
bet they patched that out
I love how the Ai woman is glitching so much.
When are you doing a modded playthrough? Because i can't wait any longer your video's are like drugs i can't stop or i get kibitz withdrawls.
I feel like City Skylines is most likely yet the moset realistic city building simulator and yet the goofiest city buildibg simulator ever.
Yea, Lets not let Ai take over the world. please, Or elect kibitz as president
😂😂😂 that ai is savage
It's crazy how the AI told you to do exactly what the South African government has been doing for 20 years
wow... that sounds like most cities in real life... :O
Feed it screenshots from in game and let it create ai pictures on how it wants to develop
Talk about a glass ceiling simulator. Jeez
Who trained this bot on the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition?
Imkibitz has met his evil master !
Privatize services... sentence of death
Whoooooo!!! Cities Skylines!!!
Bring more manor lords please!!!!!
This ai must be used by the Canadian government.
Me be like seeing the AI be like 'aight imma head out'
Wow where did you find the AI’s Evil Overlord switch?? Every time I use OpenAI it always whines about the “morality” of exploiting the poor 😂
you should go back to satisfactory and make more of those AI limiters... after this video I've got a feeling we're gonna need a lotta them
AI being dystopian be like
This scares me
That was amazing
When an AI bluntly explains capitalism
ai in this one is tryin to be jeff bezos
well, I guess ai doing human things right
5 1/2 minutes in, and his bot made late stage capitalism.
World GDP ~110-120trillions $ ~15000$/people
GDP ppp ~210-220trillions $ ~28000$/peoples
World profit GDP ~+6% +7,2trillions $ ~900$/people...
Day 2 of asking Kibz to play They Are Billions again
This one is genius hahah
kibiz, could you maybe try to continue playing DSP
Anyone thinking AI is unfit to rule should either read I, Robot again or watch this video
Literally Las Vegas
Looks like most cities that you built.
Day 7 of asking for a continuation on Techtonia
We’re screwed if chat GBT gets out
Chat-GPT is just like SCP-079 and it’s concerning
LMAOO it’s just Houston
Kibz when you gonna play satisfactory again
leave it to this cohort to come up with an ai on the spectrum
yet to the savant AI we are the idiots in-deeds
Are you going to come back to satisfactory for update 1.0?
you too AI Lord.
I think Xi Jinping is using the same AI
Oh look, Kibitz built Ohio!
The ai was trained by america i bet
This AI scares me
Nice one!!! You are spot on on how we are approaching climate change. :D
oops she's saying the quiet part out loud