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Civic Si Mugen - BASE
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2020
- We figured we'd put Georges Mugen Civic Si on the Dyno as it sits.
We have a graph with the stock tune, the drop in tunes provided with the Flash Pro for the K+N intake and more
This part 1.
I am so glad you guys are posting 8th gen civic videos. I wanted a S2000 but I came across a 08 si coupe for cheap and bought it. I am so excited to watch all the mods you guys are going to do. Keep up the good work guys.
@Mad Max only had it a week but so far I do.
Blake Ferrell its a fun car to drive, my gf also has the 08 Si coupe in black. I drive it every now and then when she wants to drive my 99 prelude. I love the shifts, smooth, short and precise. It also tends to want to hang up in RPMs. All stock, no mods. Its her daily. Its a great and fun daily for sure. 👍
@@Hakuna_My_Tatas you are right about it loving to be in the high RPM's.
Love the 8th gen content
Michael M Glad your enjoying it. It’s fun and rewarding.
Was never really a fan of that generation Civic, but I'm really enjoying the Mugen SI content! Good stuff!
Why not? This was the closest we ever got to a JDM Type R before the latest gen
Loving the 8th gen content. I hope we see more of it
Jean Bonilla Thanks buddy. It’s fun for sure.
@@LHTPerformance anytime keep up the awesome content. I learn so much from ur tips that u give out. I also own a 8th gen that I done mods based on recommendations u guys have put out.
Yes plz. More 8th gen content or more accurately, 6th gen Si content!!!
@@Soul_Freezer they got a few EM1 and EK that are good. But those cars are starting to become rare well at least all the good one that have not been clapped out
Love the 8th gen that's what I have and been waiting for you guys to work on. It's been a long time since you guys have worked on one. I'm so excited that George has this car and what road he's going to go down with. Supercharger? Turbo? NA? The options with this car are endless. I would love to see him make his own channel just with this car. Can't wait to see what's next. Please show more of this car. Love you guys✌
Very nice car and great tuning info. Love the exhaust note.✅👌🏾👍🏽😊
Coming back to this video, it's so refreshing to see my 2 favorite Honda youtubers on the same video. I remember when the Mugen FA5s dropped. They were undesirable because the markup here in California had them costing the same as a brand new S2K and all you were given were the rims, aerokit, exhaust and suspension as mentioned. 15 years later, the discontinued wheels and exhaust have retained their value and prices of these Mugen FA5s have done well, too. I've seen listings from $10k-$24K locally. I'd expect the prices to go up from there in the next 15 years. But then again, these prices are similar to used S2K prices as of 2022.
Ooooooo folks..... I have a FA5 with mugen parts I bogth in a period of 6 years, that's my dream car of all time ,just see you making a series of it I just cant wait .... thanks, thanks a lot
Love seeing these cars. Having such a limited quantity is what makes them rare. I know 2 people personally who own a Mugen Si. Obviously no improvement power wise, but the styling and “Mugen” badge sets it apart. Wouldn’t pay for a Mugen Si. I’ll be fine with a regular FA5. Considering I already have a 2020 Type R. I’d love to own an si to just mess around with.
Nice content, enjoy your vids.
Love this Car!!! Had to buy one when I saw one for sale in my neck of the woods
Love the video, also would love more content on that CRX
Hey John and George. That generation Civic (especially the 4 door) is still one of my favorites, so I'm loving this content. That center display is really cool and I think the car looks awesome. Shoutout to this episode's special guest stars.🙌 I had to laugh when you started pronouncing those names. One of the first mods I did in '95 on my '94 GS-R was a GReddy exhaust. I cringed every time someone would say greedy or Gee ready.😬 Anyway, keep up the great videos. See ya on part 2.
TheMick26 Lol. I remember the Greddy stuff. I couldn’t afford one and it kinda started me building exhausts.
Thanks for the civic content!!!
I always loved this car.
Such a clean Mugen Si!
That dash looks really cool
Once again awesome video..
Thanks you so much..
Would like to visit the shop some day ..
I / we own two limited
. Scion xb release series 10 . .
Once again keep up the great work.
Daamn didn't expect that! Best crossover ever xD
That Mugen civic looks and sounds great. I'm my opinion that mugen front lip looks way better , night and day. Sweet!
Loving the 8th gen Civic 👍🤙
This is sick! It feels like I'm going back in time with my 8thgen Honda Civic Si! lol Keep up the videos!
I have a kinda similar car in red (see pic) so really looking forward to how this FD develops♥️👍👍
Man that's a badass car
Honda Pro Jason in the house. Awesome Collaboration. Been a fan of both of you for years. Now you’re in the know! Great video as usual.
Had one. Mugen intake. Shorty Header. Larger cat. Tanabe exhaust. Hondata tune. Fun car
nice I have a mugen si its a perfect daily stock at the moment, did the car pass smog as is? Since you had a cat
@@patrickebrahimi1931 Don't need smog in Iowa. I had no CEL.
@@imraycl oh yeah I forgot other states dont smog... stupid california :( got reffed on my s2k I had for a test pipe 3" and 3" exhaust b4
Just so that you guys know...I have been a subscriber for a long time now, but recently thought “why haven't LHT uploaded anything as of late?”...well, I was UNSUBSCRIBED from your channel, apparently...RUclips did that, not me. No way.
LOVE your content, and am very much looking forward to videos of George's new acquisition, as I also own an 8th gen Civic Si FA5. Love the damn thing.
Hope that this has not been happening to too many other people out there, the unsubscribing! 😟
Circadian Haze That’s interesting. I wonder how many people that’s happened to
Lotta stuff Androids do that RUclips takes a blame. Anything weird that happens to me I atribute to the crazy Android.
love it
I haven't seen a clean Civic Si Mugen for nearly 10 years since my dad bought it used from a Honda dealership.
I bought a 09 FA5 ralleye red and I love this car. I’m going to keep her forever and just keep rebuilding whenever it goes bad, thinking of supercharging or turbocharging it, not sure what do, I want a reliable car with 300whp.
I remember G-ready from back in high school 😭😭
Digivolution Lol. I remember people asking for them... At first we’re like ..What? Who makes those 🤔
The front lip that's on it now does look better. Good thing it has the mugen suspension those 8th gen front strut towers are a pain to work around
Car reminds me of my old 00 Si
That red Crx is calling me
great video. very much appreciate it. I have an 09 SI (NON mugen) with the same intake and it looks like tuning it really isnt worth it. Id like the VTECH to engage sooner but eh.... at 158k I should prob leave well enough alone
Awesome congrats on the Mugen si! I got one myself it was badly taking care of im slowly restoring it to its prime and better, everything is stock from the Mugen si parts it comes with, I was wondering if I put a kraftwerks rotrex kit with a stock cat or high flow cat would it still pass smog? Im in california and I had a 05 dc5 k24a4 block stock tsx internals and k20z1 head stock and a fuel rail also had a quiet exhaust forgot the name was rare from i remember japan made and it had shorty headers with a cat and a old 3 year tune from church tuning what the seller told me when I bought the car and I think it had a carb legal intake i believe it was and it passed smog one day my dad took it for inspection since it was time for passing, while I was asleep and when he came home he told me it had passed and I was very suprised so do you think it would have a chance on my 8th mugen si stock with a rotrex kraftwerks kit to pass how the rsx did? (sadly it was running a really old tune and revved maybe to high and had bad rod knock and that was the end of that car, didn't have money at the time as a teen to go for a new tune which I had believed caused the rod knock or he had poorly put the motor together previous owner)
Boom in time
makes me miss my 8th gen si
Thank you for pronouncing Mugen correctly. . .
i worked at a dealer as a tech when they were sold. only 500(maybe 1000) of them made, most dealers only got one. we had the one on our lot for like a year and a half....haha
Why is that funny? Same thing happened to the 1995 LTW M3, as qith several 1997 and 1998 Type Rs. These kinds of cars don't appeal to the masses.
Use the "MAP" based maps and you will gain if you're not using that.. good video tho love the Mugen Si's.
damn i really want one of these but i cant seem to find one in atl 😂. ima get one of these eventually at the right time and right day if god permits 🙏🏽
How does the CARB compliant "stock tuned" compare? Or how do the other CARB compliant tunes compare, for that matter? Less power than the "race" tunes?
Ahhhh yes, the door hinge problem lol. They didn’t make the hinges stiff enough so the doors don’t like to stay open. Source: FG2 owner myself.
im surprised no one mention the mugen si has the mugen short shifter , im sure its not the same as the face lift shiter either
Did the flashpro work with your android head unit? With my android hu what i did to connect it chinese bt elm bt obd2 adaptor is i paired it first using the bluetooth app within the android radio. Once its paired, you can open torque pro and it should work.
Wish you guys were based in MD. I need someone to do my H22 swap in my CE1 accord wagon rhd! And I want it done right and to look factory!
Dam you made almost the same power I did and I have way more parts. I either need a new tuner or my car is slow lol. I made 196hp with sri, p2r spacer with gaskets, rdx injectors, aem 340 fuel pump, stock header with 70mm high flow cat and 2.5 inch exhaust system. Dyno tuned on ktuner v2 on a dyno jet
“They ignore all of this, but point out that”
Yeah those people don’t matter. They definitely don’t own a mugen si.
Brodey Dover I disagree with that statement. The enthusiasts are most likely going to point out something like that. The average person wouldn’t even notice. Being “picky” in the car world is probably a good thing.
I do. And they are OCD about their work, which we all appreciate, so it's just natural that their audience is a bit OCD about car stuff as well. They addressed it here and answered the questions about it. Nuff said.
Gotta have the complete package
@@slowmanEF in actuality it's not even remotely OCD it's people that are half ass that claim other people are anal. These folks are thorough and good at what they do plain and simple
How much you charge to tune my 8th gen Si got hondata?
I recommend getting a true cold air intake or a custom made one that k&n is not efficient and during the summer it heat soaks horribly i had it and sold it and put the stock airbox back on.
Kenny_Fa5 The car came with the intake already on it. Hence why we didn’t run with the stock box.
@@LHTPerformance is george eventually gonna put a CAI in the future?
Kenny_Fa5 Stay tuned for the next episode
Did these come stock with the Mugen (carbon/fibreglass) air intake box? I assume they did.
Sweeet video
Completely stock 8th gens make 180-185hp at the wheels if anyone was wondering
How many miles are on this engine?
Were those base maps MAF or MAP based? I ask because you have to search a bit more for the MAP based ones, which supposedly make a difference.
At the end, you forgot to say "Enjoy your cars."
Hondapro jason!
That hot air intake!
HighSpeedEnthusiast As mentioned. It came on the car.
@@LHTPerformance No doubt! Wasn't suggesting anything other than it's probably working against you. K&N is also notorious for missing the center of the air stream with the mass air flow sensor. There are very few companies out there that flow test and set their intakes. Most drop that mass air flow sensor in the Airstream and call it a day without it ever aligned.
HighSpeedEnthusiast No worries
@@LHTPerformance absolutely positive that the k-series are the finest for bangers ever manufactured on this planet! One of mine just turned 180 K and it still hits 9000rpm every time I drive it! Love the channel keep up the great work🤘
Clean civic si mugen baseline dyno
Very nice video, I have that same dasaita head unit for my 9th gen , but I still csnr figure out how to get Hondata to work, it's installed, but it won't sync, I didn't know the torque app could work, I have the full version, guess I will try it tomorrow and see.
Cloud Thomas I unplugged the Flashpro and plugged it back in and it worked. If you noticed the green light on the Flashpro was flashing rapidly when it’s like that it won’t connect.
George Fitzgerald thank you, but my issue is I can’t even get my flash pro to pair with my radio, it see it when I go to Bluetooth, when I click pair it doesn’t do anything. It just ask me if I want to pair it, I click yes and nothing happens, so not sure what’s up.
@@georgefitzgerald5861 ok so I got my flashpro finally to pair with my radio, however when you say you got it to work, you mean with hondata dash or hondata mobile ? Or you meant torque pro, because I tried it with both hondata and they both crashed, I was able to get hondata mobile from the play store to connect to the flashpro, but once I tried to click on anything to get a read out it froze then the app crash, and the hondata dash wouldnt even open, it just open then crash
Cloud Thomas I’ve used Hondata mobile and torque pro
George Fitzgerald nice damn 😭 why I can’t get it working then lol, maybe you could make a video or something on what exactly you did, because I’m not sure why it’s not fully working for me, love you guys channel, I plan on supercharging my 9th gen eventually I def might have you guys do it, but I live in jersey so it’s just the distance to get it there would be a challenge with work and all.
i have that dash just diff android os but i used torque pro with flash pro bluetooth, i got mines to work by setting up a password in flashpro manager and reconnect it , you first paired it in the android setting bluetooth screen then in torque app just select flashpro, and if you already got it to connect just make sure the communication setting in torque pro app under baud rate is set to automatic
sovan781 Thanks for the info. I’ll pass that on to George
I got it thanks! My Flashpro just needed a reboot
Love the car, love the videos. Always watch honda pro videos too. Is there any mugen wing that will fit on a 9th gen si coupe?
have you tried the Hondash?
Did you pay for Torque or just download the free app. Could be that you need the full version?
Also, I have the Hybrid Racing intake for my 8th Gen. Probably the best intake if you plan on replacing yours and not going KW S/C.
They're all fucking Chinese intake stamped with aem, injen etc... Stop with the mine's better than yours bullshit... Karma is a bitch dick head ☝️☝️☝️☝️💩💩💩☝️☝️☝️
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 Dr. Charles???
Where are you guys located?
You know that car was in a fender bender on the passenger front side that’s why there’s a weird gap I looked at the car myself it’s from springhill
michal610 oh wow , NOW WHO’s in the KNOW !?
That’s why it doesn’t have the oem lip
I still like it either way I hope that’s alright
Did you monitor afr on these pulls? I'm curious if the stock tune made a bit more power because it was running leaner
What’s up with that CRX though?????
You probably need to sideload the APK for hondata or download and install via file a manager.
Tell me why that fcking screen is more fluid and functional than my FK8 😂
Tease at the end
Download tuner view to used hondata on the screen
nice car, but wasnt worth 9k more then stock. they seem to sell now at about standard rates now or just above.
Is this the FD2 model?
ExoModdingCrew .Mullan FA5
kinda have to admit i do have some regret not buying htis car like 10 years ago.
With a base map, your not gonna be gaining much hp. The big difference from stock to base map is lower Vtec Engagement point, eliminating rev hang, and a smoother progressive power band.
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i would use hondata to eliminate rev hang
Baseline tuned
MOOgen. . .
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The car is rated at 197 crank but it made 194 at the wheels? Is the Dyno calibrated correctly?
They usually make 175-185whp stock. I’ve been tuning them in multiple dyno before we owned one. With the intake and hood open, it’s good for another 10-12whp over stock.
LHTPerformance so the power reported was low from the factory?
mykrrrr Most if the time this is the case. The manufacturer never wants a car to make less than advertised. Plus every car is different.
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Myoojen lol
Would love to see more FA5 !!! : )
I have sent an email to you, please check inbox LHT, thanks !
Take the garbage filters out and use a V-Stack.
Well.. it is! a 30k "Civic" and ya, people who know their she-it will point out the "Zit" on the face of the car.. xD
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Stock intake is better
This Mugen si not worth to buy...
Same as a base civic si.
Only bodykit+
mugen wheels+
Spoiler+
Mugen Exhaust+
mugen knob.
Mugen Engine not special. Same HP as base civic si lol.
jay ly when new I would agree with you but it’s a good buy now if you like all the parts as they are expensive to add to a base si
The HP of the base Si makes in the cranck, the Muggen makes at the wheel...
jay ly it’s definitely worth it considering how few were made. The undeniable is rare.
@Sergio Aguirre No, LOL! It has Mugen exhaust and a Hondata custom reflash, that makes more power than the conic K&N alone.
The Mugen exhaust & forged wheels are nice things to have. The "full-fat" Mugen 8th-gen Civics (the Mugen Type R Euro and the Mugen RR) with the 240hp Mugen engines were a lot more expensive than this...
i would sell that car and get yourself a type r or a subi. not a hater just waste of time.
rsxteufel So you would sell a car you really like and own out right, enjoy to drive and modify and buy a car 3 times more expensive and get a loan for 🤔.
The Civic Si is very close to the Type R sedan from Japan (FD2) -- arguably the best Type R ever made: ruclips.net/video/zOZ1M8TeCOw/видео.html (Seen here racing a Mini Cooper JCW and Megane R26R on Best Motoring.) :) [As for the turbo Type Rs, I prefer the FK2 to the FK8 -- I like the smoother styling and overall packaging and design.]
The OEM Mugen lip looks like crap. Over styled.