CORRECTION: The Trans-Hyperian Alliance actually gets the AP on 6s to WOUND, not to hit. It means it'll work with judgement token, so it more useful! Thanks to FlopFish for pointing that one out!
Unfortunately, for people watching this a few months later, this one is no longer valid. One of the major round of nerfs removed this judgment token synergy, severely weakening THA.
Urani-Surtr League for me. You aren't playing Dwarfs unless your opponent is stressing over how resilient your short doods are. Otherwise, I do like the fluff for the Ymyr Conglomerate and the Trans-Hyperian Alliance. As an aside, I really like that the subfactions for the LoV are all nation states or mini empires in their own right.
The Trans-Hyperian Alliance actually gets an extra AP -1 on a wound of 6 rather than a hit roll of 6 and this makes their damage better because the JT auto wound counts as a wound roll of 6
This is the kind of flavor and fluff I’ve been waiting for. I was pretty much over the same white and teal color scheme that was putting me out with this faction. Glad to see some good subfaction variety.
I wanna try them all, but the Ursur seem like the most fun, just doubling down on toughness is really fun to me. Thurian might be the next best choice, just being able to sling tokens around also seems pretty fun. I’m going to paint mine red, but that’s because that’s what my old LOTR dwarves were, and then they came out with the Ymyr and I’m trying to think of ways to distinguish mine from that colour scheme.
That pale and dark green for the uranis works really well, I picked them because of their resilience but mostly because of that color scheme, I like all of them but that one just stood out to me the most
I would, but the custom rules selections are so limited if not going for melee. I'll be playing with the Urani-Surtr rules. Inspired by their flavor to make some scrappy survivalists
@@t0k3p0k3 the good news is you can choose the "League Affiliated" rule and your custom league just counts as one of the main leagues insofar as all gameplay is concerned, so paint them however you want!
@@sonicwingnut It seems that way, only the relic is not included which I wasn't planning to use anyway. It's hard to decide, I always like to go custom. Looking at: Quick to Judge + Void Hardened + Honour in Toil. But that +1T is very tempting for a durable infantry based army as well, since I don't really like the look of the vehicles that much. I guess I'll try them both out and see which one I like to play more.
I didn't really see the appeal of the votan but they've really one me over. I've just dipped my foot into the hobby and didn't know what to collect but the votan might just be the one I eventually decide to choose!
@@guruvedra Meh, if any of your opponents are such tryhards they refuse to play a friendly game then they weren't really worth playing with in the first place.
@Space Lizard Damn you sound like a butthurt guard player with all that whinging. Keep crying about an overpowered codex that will get nerfed in 2 months. From my experience it really makes the casual players want to play with you. Ive got a few of my friends lined up to play against my votann when they come out. You know why? Because we aren't children who take a game with plastic army men too seriously...
Everyone be bitching about votann and nobody playing them is bunk af when a dude just brings 3 to 4 knights and just stomps you. I really dont see how votann is just the be all end all army, its just not there chief. Play the army you want op, if someone bitches about it and will refuse to play, theres other groups and the last one probably wasnt the best to begin with.
So based on this retcon the Squats of older editions who got nommed by the Tyranids were probably Kin from holds belonging to the Urani-Surtr Regulates.
It's a hard choice for me. All look good except the melee focused faction. I like to shoot, so I'm leaning toward the Ymyr or a custom army taking the +4" to shooting. Extra range on a slow army is pretty huge. Plus I want to paint my army dark purple with gold highlights.
The Urani-Surtr seems good for putting overall pressure on the table. Extra toughness, and then free JT if you didn't manage to get one on it. Let's then hit just a little harder no matter what. The Trans-Hyperian looks like it's good for whittling down targets
Great video as always Auspex! I'm leaning towards Urani-Surtr myself, that +1T is massive and makes Hearthkyn much more resilient, as tough as an Ork but with the armour of a Space Marine. Plus I do think that JTs will be nerfed by the first errata update, and so always counting as one will be much stronger in the future. Plus it helps give the Votann a boost in their first turn which is likely to be underwhelming otherwise.
I like that you touched a bit on the lore of these factions, beyond the usual solid gameplay analysis. Its hard not to be part of all the hype for this new faction now. Ur.-S.R looks interesting fluff-wise, I'd love to see more of all of these factions' colour schemes.
What I'm linking is that, despite I think that there are a couple of Leagues that are better than the others, all the Leagues seem very interesting and funny to play, I'm intrigued in trying all of them!
Yimr seems the best one to me. It helps with the short range problem and having widespread invulns is never a bad thing. Manipulating Judgment Tokens is nice for sure and +1 T is also great, but in the end being able to shoot down your enemies from afar is more conducive to the type of gameplay the LoV seems to have. Conversely, the melee league seems quite bad to me. No matter how good you are at fighting, if you can’t engage your prowess matters not and unfortunately the LoV are really slow when it comes to melee threats
I agree with you on Yimr very much, I do feel they will shake out to be on top. Not sure I fully agree with the melee league but I do very much see your points, I think some heavy transport builds with melee could possibly work well there.
Honestly, I'm unsure. It seems like only zerkers and sagitaurs need the 5+, otherwise the saves (with cover) shake out better or equal to the invuln you'd get anyhow. And the ancestral judgement seems a bit weak to me.
@@coltonlong7562 Your not always gonna have cover and they will be able to push you past 5 more often then you think too. Plus the 4 up invul is also quite good. AP is up nowadays. The judgement isn't the best but it's not bad at all, hence my last point, they could push you past 5 on a good amount of guns.
IMO Urani toughness isn’t going to help much in the mirror match but Ymyr range is going to shine. That might shape the popularity of the sub-factions.
I'm 100% running my lads as USR. Unbreakable wall of stubborn defiance is what it means to be a Dwarf. I'm currently working on a kit bashed army of League and Imperial Guard gear, with the general theme that these are Kin who'd lost their Votann and have taken the equivalent of a Slayer's Oath to alleviate their disgrace and shame.
I think I'll do my usual approach of painting them a custom color scheme, naming them a homemade league and then switch from which rules to use according to what I fancy. For now, I think my League will be tributary to the Greater Thurian League since I'm curious about their named character. Maybe they'll become independent or be annexed by the Ymyr Conglomerate at a later point, who knows.
Personally I’ve found Vengeful (2Jt for killing a unit and Honour in Toil (+1 to hit if unit is below starting strength) could be a fun combo. Especially with stoic to keep small units around more often you could really make an effective MSU Votann list
Lore wise the T.H.A is my pick for SURE, I love the space nomad trope, though the Y.C is a strong second due to my love of Artificer Characters. Gameplay wise seeing as I love Narrative Play I will most likely go Custom with their lore being that they were born of a fusion of Trans Hyperion and Ymir Conglomerate gene lineages who were stranded together after a joint operation gone wrong and joined into a single sub league.
Imagine your aeons old moleculizer beam of doom, known for its ability to shred the fabric of matter itself, merely a light show to a 3ft primate with ch0nky armor made by a SmartBoi app. Imagine being a superhuman, grown from a young child into the pinnacle of humanity, equipped with the holiest and most deadly arsenal, and some 3ft abhuman with a cooler gun just wastes you at the same Ballistic Skill even though you’re the superhuman one. 🤡 Imagine being one of the most technologically advanced races despite your very short history, with zero fears of the tech and equipment you use, and then getting smacked by a 3ft ball gue’la that follows the SmartBoi app.
I'm definitely running URSR. I've been looking for a non Iron Hands vehicle focused army for a while. Almost went Orks but then Speed Waagh got it's legs cut off.
I actually really like the Trans-Hyperian. Extra AP (on 6's to Wound not hit according to the leaked photos), mortal protection, redeploy all sound very handy. Plus I was thinking of maybe doing an orange color scheme anyways
right now my Leauges are painted Trans Hyperian Orange, and they will be my go to "I got no better ideas" army with Boarding actions though I am eyballing both Kronus for all offense boarding and Surtur for long slogs.
I'm really torn between the Ymyr Conglomerate and the Kronus Hegemony for my Leagues. I want to take as many Einhyr Hearthguard as I can cause I absolutely LOVE that unit, so do I make their Melee better with Kronus or do I make their range and defense better with Ymyr. Either way Im probably gonna paint them as my own scheme, even though I really love that black and yellow scheme that Kronus have going!
I think for Hearthguard you probably want Ymir, as they get the 4+ Invul from Ymir and can then take the Teleport crest with no downside. If going Kronus the Hearthguard won't be bad, but I'd focus more on having a ton of Berserks available.
@@patrickcoyne1960 The downside is missing out on the +1W. Which definitely is a downside, but deepstriking is a massive upside. And we can make it even cuter. Use the "Give a Relic to a Hesyr" strat to give a 10-man squad of Hearthguard the Warpestryk relic. Once per game, 0CP to relocate them anywhere. (Also grants 12" anti-deepstrike bubble and charge-through-terrain). Then plop them down 9-11" away. Volkites and Grenade Launchers are within half-range for the AP-1 Ancestral Judgment at that point. If you're really worried about anti-deepstrike bubbles, the Plasma Guns are at half range from 12" away. Site-to-Site Transport normally costs 2CP for non-Characters. Here, you spend 1CP to give the relic, so you're getting a discount. I'm planning on pairing 10 Hearthguard with the Sniper Kahl (A Long List WLT, Grudge's End relic), personally. Should be fun.
I really like the look of Hearthguard too, but hope Hearthguard have options for closed helmets. I suck at painting faces and put closed helms on everything so I don’t have to. XD
@@patrickcoyne1960 you can replace just the Hesyrs crest for teleport and the whole unit gets teleport, only the hesyr will not get the +1 wound. Ymir is a really good choice because the reality is there are are lot of Ap2 and 3 weapons being taken with AoC existing, which means Ymir is likely the "toughest" Votann build.
I know I am going to likely be playing the Ymyr - but I’m Going to still do a custom paint scheme / lore with them and jsut say they are a subordinate/ offshoot hold to the main league
I'm a competitive player, though I play what I like the most (was guard, now votaan), so I'll probably paint custom scheme with custom background, but use the best rules at the moment. Liking the lore anyhow though!
With regard to Trans Hyperian. You mentioned your opponent needs to trigger you being below max strength on a unit. Theoretically, could you put 3x10 Hearthkyn units into 3x2 Sagitaur and immediately split all 6 units into 12 units below starting strength turn 1?
I really liked dwarfs in fantasy. Glad to see them return to the dystopia that is 40k. Can't be adding to my pile of unfinished projects just yet though.
Of course I'm going to paint them like Deep Rock Galactic and run whatever rules I want. I don't want the colors to be too vibrant, but I want to have fun with them. I'll aim to paint them in different colors for different roles, just like DRG!
Ymyr Conglomerate for me. But i am painting them with yellow armor / black clothes (mining / working CAT crew style :) The red reminds me too much of Khador from warmachine.
They already have effective 1+ armour save. To get them past a 4+ armour save, one needs to hit them with AP-4 or stronger. That is already rather inefficient, and there aren't a lot of weapons that have better AP than -4. EDIT: the better beneficiaries of the Ymir invuln are probably Beserks and the bikes.
I want to make a League based on the Dawn from fantasy, with grudges, beer brewing, and singing. Any thoughts on the color scheme or rules for this homebrew league?
Thanks for the video, i still dont know wich one i want between The Ymir conglomerate and the Greater Thurian League as i love the way the Gruge mechanic works but i want a shooty army and i love the whole Master Crafter Lore of the Ymir
Of the customs the +4" range and beam weapon combo seems intriguing if you really build toward it. That may just be me trying to justify using Thunderkyn, though. They're kind of disappointing compared to my fond memories of squat thunderers.
Currently its a toss up between GTL or Ymyr for me. As the only named character is league-locked and he does look pretty damn good, and then throw in that GTL have the JT bonuses and the fact that before it all came out, I was leaning towards an Incubi Darkness based colour scheme... While Ymyr look very good and "dwarfy" increased range is a big boost, and the added invuls are crazy.
sorry if this is a dumb question, I am a warhammer noob but can uthar the destined be utilized in a ymyr conglomerate army or can he only be used if you play the greater leagues?
i very much like the Thurians, but i have a question: does combat squading count as below starting strength? because then the THA might be quite good with a pair of sagitaurs
It will likely be ruled as not working like that in tournaments, and to be below half-strength, they would still require to have at most 4 models (because they need to be strictly below 5 for 10-model units).
I'm really not sure which one to play. They are all pretty good. There are no stand out great or bad ones like in other factions. They all seem pretty balanced outside of GTL getting a named Character to dole out auto 6s
Planning to get back into 40k from a 13 year absense with LoV. I love the look and lore but need to read more to see. I like the USR and the YC lore wise, but I am unsure about the red on thr later. I am tempted to roll custom and lean into the iron-kin a bit more?
Kronus Hegemony for me, I want a slayer army in 40k. Khals send out an unstoppable champion leading armies of armored kin behind a line of berserkers spilling out of transports.
Considering they only showed us models from 2 of the Leagues? I'm not excited -at all-. They barely showed us how the other 3 should painted so I have no idea where to start
CORRECTION: The Trans-Hyperian Alliance actually gets the AP on 6s to WOUND, not to hit. It means it'll work with judgement token, so it more useful! Thanks to FlopFish for pointing that one out!
I'm glad they are on the level with others, white and orange is banger scheme.
But this is gone now w the nerf right
Unfortunately, for people watching this a few months later, this one is no longer valid. One of the major round of nerfs removed this judgment token synergy, severely weakening THA.
Urani-Surtr League for me. You aren't playing Dwarfs unless your opponent is stressing over how resilient your short doods are. Otherwise, I do like the fluff for the Ymyr Conglomerate and the Trans-Hyperian Alliance.
As an aside, I really like that the subfactions for the LoV are all nation states or mini empires in their own right.
I dunno. I just still miss the Engineers' Guild. Loved those trikes.
The Trans-Hyperian Alliance actually gets an extra AP -1 on a wound of 6 rather than a hit roll of 6 and this makes their damage better because the JT auto wound counts as a wound roll of 6
For having played a test game with them, it is very fun to bolter down dreadnaughts
Thanks for the correction man, have added it as a pinned comment above. Sorry it took me a little while to get to this one!
@@enitsu-142 *dreadnoughts
@@cristhianmlr fair
I'm liking the Ymyr conglomerate. I like general buffs they get that gives a chance for every unit to shine. Plus I like the red colour scheme.
I basically came here to say the same. I like to paint red, more general buffs are good and I like the feel.
This is the kind of flavor and fluff I’ve been waiting for. I was pretty much over the same white and teal color scheme that was putting me out with this faction. Glad to see some good subfaction variety.
I wanna try them all, but the Ursur seem like the most fun, just doubling down on toughness is really fun to me.
Thurian might be the next best choice, just being able to sling tokens around also seems pretty fun.
I’m going to paint mine red, but that’s because that’s what my old LOTR dwarves were, and then they came out with the Ymyr and I’m trying to think of ways to distinguish mine from that colour scheme.
Whichever you pick, the only right way to play is to name them Rocket League and run a lot of cars.
That should totally be the name for a Sagitaur-Spam list :D
@@auspextactics got to get some custom dice now to look like rocket league balls
And the best comment of the day goes to you!
Only if you want to name something for one of the best games after one of th worst
Is it 1 Iron Master, 3x6 Pioneers, 3x2 Sagiturs, and 3 Fortresses?
That pale and dark green for the uranis works really well, I picked them because of their resilience but mostly because of that color scheme, I like all of them but that one just stood out to me the most
I really appreciate getting advice on units that benefit from the faction's benefits. It's hugely helpful. Thank you.
The best pick is to make a custom one , your paint scheme , lore and customised models.
I would, but the custom rules selections are so limited if not going for melee. I'll be playing with the Urani-Surtr rules. Inspired by their flavor to make some scrappy survivalists
Wait, auspex is listing customs that I don't have in my pdf. It seems I'm missing a page. Maybe there is a custom one I'd like.
@@t0k3p0k3 the good news is you can choose the "League Affiliated" rule and your custom league just counts as one of the main leagues insofar as all gameplay is concerned, so paint them however you want!
@@sonicwingnut It seems that way, only the relic is not included which I wasn't planning to use anyway. It's hard to decide, I always like to go custom. Looking at: Quick to Judge + Void Hardened + Honour in Toil. But that +1T is very tempting for a durable infantry based army as well, since I don't really like the look of the vehicles that much. I guess I'll try them both out and see which one I like to play more.
@@sonicwingnut thanks for the reminder! this makes my dream of orange squat armor a reality now!
Now this is what I like about the LoV, sub factions that make them different but united; like orks and the space marine chapters
I didn't really see the appeal of the votan but they've really one me over. I've just dipped my foot into the hobby and didn't know what to collect but the votan might just be the one I eventually decide to choose!
Perhaps not best choise for start. If they stey as broken as they look now, find opponent may be not easy task.
@@guruvedra Meh, if any of your opponents are such tryhards they refuse to play a friendly game then they weren't really worth playing with in the first place.
@Space Lizard Damn you sound like a butthurt guard player with all that whinging. Keep crying about an overpowered codex that will get nerfed in 2 months. From my experience it really makes the casual players want to play with you. Ive got a few of my friends lined up to play against my votann when they come out. You know why? Because we aren't children who take a game with plastic army men too seriously...
@@RushGamma yea, how dear peoples don't enjoy been wipe out in first turn by GW newest bullshit. What a bigots.
Everyone be bitching about votann and nobody playing them is bunk af when a dude just brings 3 to 4 knights and just stomps you. I really dont see how votann is just the be all end all army, its just not there chief.
Play the army you want op, if someone bitches about it and will refuse to play, theres other groups and the last one probably wasnt the best to begin with.
I really want to run an all beam list and see if I can make the Thunderkin work
Custom with +4" range and the +1S and free strat on beams, I assume? Caught my eye too.
Been watching all of these today northern knights gaming put a vid showing some of the stacking you can do it’s so op
Saw it too
They are dope !
I saw there’s too , the stacking the toughness you mean ? That is insane
@@starwarscottage9419 the T stacking yes but also the token stacking and the bike spam will be nuts
@@starwarscottage9419 ya I seen them talking about getting their termies to T7, like lmao why can they do that
Space dwarves economizing prejudice and micro aggressions like gold will never not be funny to me.
I think Ymir looks really solid for the weapon range and durability boost, and the WLT also could be interesting
So based on this retcon the Squats of older editions who got nommed by the Tyranids were probably Kin from holds belonging to the Urani-Surtr Regulates.
It's a hard choice for me. All look good except the melee focused faction. I like to shoot, so I'm leaning toward the Ymyr or a custom army taking the +4" to shooting. Extra range on a slow army is pretty huge. Plus I want to paint my army dark purple with gold highlights.
This thumbnail is EPIC
Awesome video, super informative and well made. Helped me choose which one I wanted to use.
Definitely looking at Ymyr myself. Though URSR and Thurian I like as well.
The Urani-Surtr seems good for putting overall pressure on the table. Extra toughness, and then free JT if you didn't manage to get one on it. Let's then hit just a little harder no matter what. The Trans-Hyperian looks like it's good for whittling down targets
I don't even play/hobby tabletop and I'm beyond excited, they just look so fresh and new and yet true to 40K vibes...
Great video as always Auspex! I'm leaning towards Urani-Surtr myself, that +1T is massive and makes Hearthkyn much more resilient, as tough as an Ork but with the armour of a Space Marine.
Plus I do think that JTs will be nerfed by the first errata update, and so always counting as one will be much stronger in the future. Plus it helps give the Votann a boost in their first turn which is likely to be underwhelming otherwise.
They all have the same stats now in 10th.
Being an Eldar players I'm liking the idea of having a 'tough' army so increasing my toughness is calling out to me lol
Thanks Auspex
I like that you touched a bit on the lore of these factions, beyond the usual solid gameplay analysis. Its hard not to be part of all the hype for this new faction now. Ur.-S.R looks interesting fluff-wise, I'd love to see more of all of these factions' colour schemes.
Feels like Space Marines adjacent with perks like the T'au army doctrines.
What I'm linking is that, despite I think that there are a couple of Leagues that are better than the others, all the Leagues seem very interesting and funny to play, I'm intrigued in trying all of them!
Yimr seems the best one to me. It helps with the short range problem and having widespread invulns is never a bad thing. Manipulating Judgment Tokens is nice for sure and +1 T is also great, but in the end being able to shoot down your enemies from afar is more conducive to the type of gameplay the LoV seems to have. Conversely, the melee league seems quite bad to me. No matter how good you are at fighting, if you can’t engage your prowess matters not and unfortunately the LoV are really slow when it comes to melee threats
I agree with you on Yimr very much, I do feel they will shake out to be on top. Not sure I fully agree with the melee league but I do very much see your points, I think some heavy transport builds with melee could possibly work well there.
Honestly, I'm unsure. It seems like only zerkers and sagitaurs need the 5+, otherwise the saves (with cover) shake out better or equal to the invuln you'd get anyhow. And the ancestral judgement seems a bit weak to me.
@@coltonlong7562 Your not always gonna have cover and they will be able to push you past 5 more often then you think too.
Plus the 4 up invul is also quite good. AP is up nowadays. The judgement isn't the best but it's not bad at all, hence my last point, they could push you past 5 on a good amount of guns.
Just picked up the box for these fellas! Might make a custom League based on the Dwarven Clan I run in D&D
It is so cool when Auspex knows the leaked LoV codex is totally trustable. It tells a lot.
IMO Urani toughness isn’t going to help much in the mirror match but Ymyr range is going to shine. That might shape the popularity of the sub-factions.
Good point. With auto-wounding toughness doesn’t help. Ymry range and saves will.
I'm 100% running my lads as USR. Unbreakable wall of stubborn defiance is what it means to be a Dwarf.
I'm currently working on a kit bashed army of League and Imperial Guard gear, with the general theme that these are Kin who'd lost their Votann and have taken the equivalent of a Slayer's Oath to alleviate their disgrace and shame.
Models are dope. Rules are stupid broken. I’ll probably pick some up for One Page Rules.
I’m running Greater Thurian League for the character and the ability to spread more judgement tokens around over other Leagues.
I think I'll do my usual approach of painting them a custom color scheme, naming them a homemade league and then switch from which rules to use according to what I fancy. For now, I think my League will be tributary to the Greater Thurian League since I'm curious about their named character. Maybe they'll become independent or be annexed by the Ymyr Conglomerate at a later point, who knows.
Personally I’ve found Vengeful (2Jt for killing a unit and Honour in Toil (+1 to hit if unit is below starting strength) could be a fun combo. Especially with stoic to keep small units around more often you could really make an effective MSU Votann list
I am definitely going to do a custom scheme for mine sense the rules change so quickly!
You can still pick any of the ‘main’ colours and plan them as anything
Lore wise the T.H.A is my pick for SURE, I love the space nomad trope, though the Y.C is a strong second due to my love of Artificer Characters. Gameplay wise seeing as I love Narrative Play I will most likely go Custom with their lore being that they were born of a fusion of Trans Hyperion and Ymir Conglomerate gene lineages who were stranded together after a joint operation gone wrong and joined into a single sub league.
+1T across the whole army sounds like a ridiculously strong buff ngl.
Imagine your aeons old moleculizer beam of doom, known for its ability to shred the fabric of matter itself, merely a light show to a 3ft primate with ch0nky armor made by a SmartBoi app.
Imagine being a superhuman, grown from a young child into the pinnacle of humanity, equipped with the holiest and most deadly arsenal, and some 3ft abhuman with a cooler gun just wastes you at the same Ballistic Skill even though you’re the superhuman one. 🤡
Imagine being one of the most technologically advanced races despite your very short history, with zero fears of the tech and equipment you use, and then getting smacked by a 3ft ball gue’la that follows the SmartBoi app.
I'm definitely running URSR. I've been looking for a non Iron Hands vehicle focused army for a while. Almost went Orks but then Speed Waagh got it's legs cut off.
I actually really like the Trans-Hyperian. Extra AP (on 6's to Wound not hit according to the leaked photos), mortal protection, redeploy all sound very handy. Plus I was thinking of maybe doing an orange color scheme anyways
right now my Leauges are painted Trans Hyperian Orange, and they will be my go to "I got no better ideas" army with Boarding actions though I am eyballing both Kronus for all offense boarding and Surtur for long slogs.
I love the names for these factions. Right now I'm thinking of the Ymyr Conglomerate, but the Trans-Hyperian Alliance is quite tempting as well.
I'm really torn between the Ymyr Conglomerate and the Kronus Hegemony for my Leagues. I want to take as many Einhyr Hearthguard as I can cause I absolutely LOVE that unit, so do I make their Melee better with Kronus or do I make their range and defense better with Ymyr. Either way Im probably gonna paint them as my own scheme, even though I really love that black and yellow scheme that Kronus have going!
I think for Hearthguard you probably want Ymir, as they get the 4+ Invul from Ymir and can then take the Teleport crest with no downside. If going Kronus the Hearthguard won't be bad, but I'd focus more on having a ton of Berserks available.
@@patrickcoyne1960 Naaaah. No berserks for me. Its all hearthguard all the time! 🤣
@@patrickcoyne1960 The downside is missing out on the +1W. Which definitely is a downside, but deepstriking is a massive upside. And we can make it even cuter.
Use the "Give a Relic to a Hesyr" strat to give a 10-man squad of Hearthguard the Warpestryk relic. Once per game, 0CP to relocate them anywhere. (Also grants 12" anti-deepstrike bubble and charge-through-terrain). Then plop them down 9-11" away. Volkites and Grenade Launchers are within half-range for the AP-1 Ancestral Judgment at that point. If you're really worried about anti-deepstrike bubbles, the Plasma Guns are at half range from 12" away.
Site-to-Site Transport normally costs 2CP for non-Characters. Here, you spend 1CP to give the relic, so you're getting a discount.
I'm planning on pairing 10 Hearthguard with the Sniper Kahl (A Long List WLT, Grudge's End relic), personally. Should be fun.
I really like the look of Hearthguard too, but hope Hearthguard have options for closed helmets. I suck at painting faces and put closed helms on everything so I don’t have to. XD
@@patrickcoyne1960 you can replace just the Hesyrs crest for teleport and the whole unit gets teleport, only the hesyr will not get the +1 wound. Ymir is a really good choice because the reality is there are are lot of Ap2 and 3 weapons being taken with AoC existing, which means Ymir is likely the "toughest" Votann build.
9:50 We got Soviet Space Dwarves! Who ordered Soviet Space Dwarves? We got'em here for you! :D
I know I am going to likely be playing the Ymyr - but I’m
Going to still do a custom paint scheme / lore with them and jsut say they are a subordinate/ offshoot hold to the main league
I want a Giant Beer Mug for my HQ option
I’m leaning Ursr. Maybe leaning into bear motifs with green stuff.
Leagues of Votann is that something new WH40k needs
No
Yes
@@user-zh8dr1qt1s so you prefer those Primaris Marines then?
@@patrik9328 I mean, primaris marines do look better than first born so yes
I think Kronus Hegemony hits with +1 A and +1 Strengh always if they charge, was charged or performed a H.I.
I'm a competitive player, though I play what I like the most (was guard, now votaan), so I'll probably paint custom scheme with custom background, but use the best rules at the moment. Liking the lore anyhow though!
With regard to Trans Hyperian. You mentioned your opponent needs to trigger you being below max strength on a unit. Theoretically, could you put 3x10 Hearthkyn units into 3x2 Sagitaur and immediately split all 6 units into 12 units below starting strength turn 1?
That's not how being being below strength works
I really liked dwarfs in fantasy. Glad to see them return to the dystopia that is 40k.
Can't be adding to my pile of unfinished projects just yet though.
so Kronus is Black and Yellow, Trans-Hyperian is orangish, and Urani-Surtur is OD Green?
Of course I'm going to paint them like Deep Rock Galactic and run whatever rules I want. I don't want the colors to be too vibrant, but I want to have fun with them. I'll aim to paint them in different colors for different roles, just like DRG!
Only play against tyranids, ROCK AND STONE
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE KINS MAN! 😂
FOR CAAARRL!
I am, of course, picking the red ones once again.
Ymyr Conglomerate for me. But i am painting them with yellow armor / black clothes (mining / working CAT crew style :) The red reminds me too much of Khador from warmachine.
I'm just a big sucker for learning more of the subfactions
I feel like Ymir Conglomerates with Einhyr is a thing. 4++ invulns while being fully teleporty? That seems nice...
They already have effective 1+ armour save. To get them past a 4+ armour save, one needs to hit them with AP-4 or stronger. That is already rather inefficient, and there aren't a lot of weapons that have better AP than -4.
EDIT: the better beneficiaries of the Ymir invuln are probably Beserks and the bikes.
I want to make a League based on the Dawn from fantasy, with grudges, beer brewing, and singing. Any thoughts on the color scheme or rules for this homebrew league?
Belegar colours. Grey steel armour, blue cloth and red details.
Gonna go Trans-Hyperion Alliance, love the lore of them being nomadic, kinda wish more of the LoV went for this aesthetic
Thanks for the video, i still dont know wich one i want between The Ymir conglomerate and the Greater Thurian League as i love the way the Gruge mechanic works but i want a shooty army and i love the whole Master Crafter Lore of the Ymir
Of the customs the +4" range and beam weapon combo seems intriguing if you really build toward it. That may just be me trying to justify using Thunderkyn, though. They're kind of disappointing compared to my fond memories of squat thunderers.
Going Trans-Hyperian Alliance because all I do is paint and they blend well with the forge fathers from War Path.
Currently its a toss up between GTL or Ymyr for me. As the only named character is league-locked and he does look pretty damn good, and then throw in that GTL have the JT bonuses and the fact that before it all came out, I was leaning towards an Incubi Darkness based colour scheme... While Ymyr look very good and "dwarfy" increased range is a big boost, and the added invuls are crazy.
What happened to the Tau affiliated League? Mentioned in fluff a month or so back
Even if they aren't maybe the strongest, I like the lore of the THA - it's them for me probably
sorry if this is a dumb question, I am a warhammer noob but can uthar the destined be utilized in a ymyr conglomerate army or can he only be used if you play the greater leagues?
T8: "Am I a joke to you?"
I am unable to decide between Ymyr Conglomoerate or Urani-Surtr Regulates.
i very much like the Thurians, but i have a question: does combat squading count as below starting strength? because then the THA might be quite good with a pair of sagitaurs
Ooh... that's a good question! I'm not sure, but I like this line of thinking
It will likely be ruled as not working like that in tournaments, and to be below half-strength, they would still require to have at most 4 models (because they need to be strictly below 5 for 10-model units).
"first round of melee" - as a newer 40k player i struggle to process this - does this mean only if they charge in and attack first?
it works if they "Charged, where charged, or preformed a heroic intervention" it a pretty common term you'll see in just about every codex
Remember when CSM didn't get custom rules because that's great for balance and does not require nerfing weird combos for the next 3 years :)?
I'm really not sure which one to play. They are all pretty good. There are no stand out great or bad ones like in other factions. They all seem pretty balanced outside of GTL getting a named Character to dole out auto 6s
I've been playing Ymyr conglomerate since my childhood dudes
Planning to get back into 40k from a 13 year absense with LoV. I love the look and lore but need to read more to see. I like the USR and the YC lore wise, but I am unsure about the red on thr later. I am tempted to roll custom and lean into the iron-kin a bit more?
They fight for their kyn,
And they'll fight, for kyn, anyone 👌
Okay, but which one best represents a modern version of the Engineers Guild and would look best with mirrored shades and their tummy poking out?
I'm not sure if picking a StarCraft or TMNT color scheme
Ymyr for me. Nothing worse than being just out of range. Army wide invuls never hurt either.
Kronus Hegemony for me, I want a slayer army in 40k. Khals send out an unstoppable champion leading armies of armored kin behind a line of berserkers spilling out of transports.
I like Kronus. Badass, agressive dwarfs who are more than willing to crush enemies under hammers... Dark Iron vibes.
could you please do a similar video for imperial Knights?
So almost extinct dwarves has custom army rules but orcs and csm don't odd
Considering they only showed us models from 2 of the Leagues? I'm not excited -at all-. They barely showed us how the other 3 should painted so I have no idea where to start
Thurian or Kronus
Still cant find the synergy with Urani.
I am playing custom and making a deep rock galatic army
How to be the tallest Votann in the room.
Rock and Stone!
why does he always sound like giving safety instructions in a plane?
Ymyr all the way 5++ and rng +4 ok everything? Yes Thankyou.
Greater Thurian League
I like the Ymyr conglomerate but not its colors...
Kronus looks like they're about to fall to Khorne!
URSR for life
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