Radical Race Engine Part 2! The Disassembly Begins!

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  • @mathuetax
    @mathuetax 2 года назад +6

    It's always a treat when I see a crazily build inline 6!

  • @doktortutankamazon31
    @doktortutankamazon31 6 месяцев назад

    The 4.9 was always a caged beast. My favorite gas engine for reliability, natural balance, torque, gear to gear timing, and 60 degree powerstroke overlap. My stock van is 30 years old and never failed.

  • @dougkonopack4693
    @dougkonopack4693 2 года назад +3

    I remember a Hot Rod article, that was a recipe for an 11 second 300, in a maverick.

  • @peterhatch1583
    @peterhatch1583 Год назад +2

    I had a 292 gmc 6 with two Cleveland heads Holborn injection complete got it of Jim barns in Bakersfield when he was alive

  • @robertwhitfield3136
    @robertwhitfield3136 2 года назад +1

    Immediately recognized the Ford 300 block .

  • @aaronblyth596
    @aaronblyth596 3 года назад +10

    I’m in Australia. 👍🏽👌🏽
    I love your videos, keep them up.
    This motor is pure genius, I would love to have watched the people responsible think this up and then go about building it. Just the head configuration and how it was done, stuns and amazes me.

    • @jeanvi52
      @jeanvi52 2 года назад

      You guys have that bad$$ ford barra that’s not available in vehicles here in the states

    • @aaronblyth596
      @aaronblyth596 2 года назад

      @@jeanvi52 yes Jeff, those things are insane 1000hp with no changes to the bottom end. Mind blowing stuff 🤯

  • @rchydrozz751
    @rchydrozz751 2 года назад +6

    I remember back in the mid 70's. At the local drag strip. Seeing a short slingshot type dragster, with a 6 cylinder that was so fast it was hard to believe you could that much HP out of a straight 6 engine. At the race, when it pulled up to do the burnout, you could hear it wasnt a V8. That got my attention. I had to go to the pits to get a look. Back then, you could walk right up to the cars, actually getting in their way as they worked on the cars. I have a few pics somewhere that I took. I'll have to dig those out and have a look. Back then you could see just about anything at the races. Me, I ran a bike.

  • @raygee1138
    @raygee1138 3 года назад +6

    We've all been waiting for part 2 of this video and what's yet to come Ken. Pro Stock in the 70's and 80's set the pace for many modifications and trends that help teams dominate today, and men like Glidden are the pioneers who made it all happen. Looking forward to seeing more of the tricks and secrets this engine holds-and hearing it run again will be the cherry on the cake.
    About his knocking noise, could that loose flywheel and the broken oil pickup screen slamming on the pan be the cause? That'd be a real kick in the ass if all he had to do was tighten some bolts and do a little re-welding to fix the issue. It's in good hands now though and we all know you'll treat it right.

  • @dougmurray510
    @dougmurray510 2 года назад +4

    I love the engine man's videos. Very smart man when it comes to those engines

  • @johnmatthews2198
    @johnmatthews2198 Год назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing

  • @shawnmasters2751
    @shawnmasters2751 2 года назад +1

    If all bearings are good I bet the knock sound was coming from the broken sump at low idle you could hear it banging the oil pan. Great video you are a great engine guy keep up the great work

    • @richardprice5978
      @richardprice5978 2 года назад +1

      i know he's going for a restoration but a period correct dry sump and a pre-oiling system is a good idea as its a d near one off racing engine from mr. sly and leave the rest alone as the oiling system failed and omost killed it ect.

  • @murphystreeter
    @murphystreeter 2 года назад +2

    Bob Glidden raced in KC at KCIR all the time ...we all remember his car...the Pinto was twice the drag car that the Mustang II was. I think it was the wheel base. Larry Maddux was my uncle. He probably built more Clevor engines than anyone else. He'd probably tell you everything about that head. Ford had tons of those top hats for the valves. Those retainers are normal to see on older stuff but mostly Ford just had a little hat that went on top. If those heads were 302 BOSS heads they will have the water ports on the intake side for the wet head and no jacket hole on the surface. Cleveland intake was dry. That was the only difference unless the heads came off an emissions head. You've probably pinned tons of them. Gotta be super careful when you mill it out for the hardened seats.....the water jacket isn't too far from the seat. Scary work.

  • @rebekahfrench5747
    @rebekahfrench5747 2 года назад +1

    A shit load of head scratching went into the work n machining of that head set up.. all in the persuit of horsepower and all before billet alloy head's and CNC machines..

  • @nadronnocojr
    @nadronnocojr 3 года назад +3

    Long videos make you happy then make long man we are fans of YOU . Rock on man

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 2 года назад

    Great stuff and I love getting caught up with subscriptions. Great Tuesday.

  • @amjrpain919
    @amjrpain919 2 года назад +1

    I had heard rumors and suppositions of a Boss Cleveland straight six approximately 40+yrs ago... I just thought it was some old "gearheads" wet dream. I really want to hear this thing run!

  • @tommymccollough8518
    @tommymccollough8518 2 года назад

    I think you guys are very smart,taught me how to assemble a sbc, thanks.

  • @charlieschultz4446
    @charlieschultz4446 Год назад

    hi there , it's another aussie , sayin' that i really dig just what you have there ( you guessed it , I want one too ! )

  • @rickybailey7123
    @rickybailey7123 Год назад

    The head gasket mashing and the head getting re tq probably tighten the clearance between the valve spring and rocker

  • @salrivera7578
    @salrivera7578 Год назад

    Gd job amigo i have a 1981 f150 custom straight 6 300 rv camper and i hook her up a bit with different years combos and carb and my have 4 sp standard transmission my sound tuff strong like hell gd on gas easy to maintenance and believe me i don't sale my old school style f150 rv camper 😊😊

  • @patrickbrady447
    @patrickbrady447 2 года назад

    Very interesting motor and strip down by an old school engineer. I am watching and enjoying your wirk from Perth West Australia.

  • @DevJB
    @DevJB 2 года назад

    Thanks for showing this !

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 2 года назад

    As you said in the past, clean is clean and details are what makes a job. Great day to you

  • @jonathancallender8185
    @jonathancallender8185 Год назад

    Great stuff.

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 2 года назад +1

    Like I've said before...an aftermarket 300 Ford aluminum cross flow cylinder head would sell like crazy! I don't think they could make them fast enough.

    • @Group_Anonymous
      @Group_Anonymous 2 года назад

      Internal combustion engine bans are coming as more countries, states, and cities, are making the gradual switch to electric vehicles.

  • @franklynpertuz7669
    @franklynpertuz7669 2 года назад

    Yes I've heard of it before but I've never actually seen one till you showed me that is very amazing I like that watching a non aspirated motor good luck with it man

  • @bobbybowers4065
    @bobbybowers4065 2 года назад

    This is some fantastic fab work for its day I've never seen anything like it wow what a treat!!!!!!👍👍

  • @colinvoss8484
    @colinvoss8484 10 месяцев назад +1

    The intake on the slant six was the best design for the straight six.

  • @thunderstruck5484
    @thunderstruck5484 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge it is greatly appreciated

  • @joeychaseable
    @joeychaseable 2 года назад +1

    Would be super cool to see a modern Top of the line aluminum head made specifically for that engine by the manufacturer..

    • @spankthemonkey3437
      @spankthemonkey3437 2 года назад

      Not even those get an inline six to 600hp natural aspirated🤣.

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef1176 2 года назад

    Ken your lucky you don’t work near me. I be up your ass for knowledge all the time.. good stuff brother!

  • @68blownpony
    @68blownpony 2 года назад

    How the heck did they figure out how to build an engine like this? This is genius level engineering and ingenuity. Great explanation of how it was modified and assembled. Too bad none of the companies that manufacture aftermarket aluminum Cleveland heads haven’t cast one for the 300 six. It’s a well respected engine that’s super reliable and practically bulletproof. No wonder so many people are still big fans of it years after it went out of production.

  • @rickybailey7123
    @rickybailey7123 Год назад

    This is bad ass I love it!!

  • @edge2sword186
    @edge2sword186 Год назад

    I wiold really like to see what they did to upgrade the oil system > 100HP per cylinder is always good eor starters .

  • @matthubbard9330
    @matthubbard9330 2 года назад

    Nothing screams like a Cleveland.
    Small block engine with big block heads poured with high nickel content steel at a diesel engine foundry.
    One external oil hose from the front to the rear, a flat tappet cam and a 4speed.
    8k rpms
    A L L D A Y L O N G.

  • @earlwest6005
    @earlwest6005 2 года назад +1

    Awesome! I believe the one I had seen was two heads with one cylinder cut off of each and welded together in the center. Not real sure, been a long time. Most of the heads that Bob Glidden had done was brazed filled ports, I think. This head looks like it is epoxy filled. I hope these rods are not streched, or have any stress marks in them. I still want to know about the cam in this build. Glidden is the King and Clevelands forever!!

  • @codyedgington6852
    @codyedgington6852 3 года назад +1

    Reason they may used a 3 piece pushrod was due to aftermarket options. The original 300 has a stupid long pushrod and from my search years ago all ya could get was oem. I never looked into custom made.

  • @rzjk301
    @rzjk301 2 года назад

    Ford 4.9L 300ci inline 6. Had one in my 89 F150

  • @stereorifles3191
    @stereorifles3191 3 года назад

    this is the coolest build I have ever seen

  • @terriecotham1567
    @terriecotham1567 10 месяцев назад

    This engine is the ream of the SR71 black bird, real guys thanking outside of the box with a few off the shelf parts and a few wild ideas. and possible a lot of late nights looking at thing and possible a few beers as well.
    Little by little the beast came off the Ideal board and was Reddy for the flip of switch and the start button push and with a spark the fire and breath came to life as the builders look on wondering if it would hold together much less run and yet it settles down like a new father they all set around and begin to look at the new baby.
    So the oil pressure and temps were all in range and the quick opening shows a fire breathing monster coming to life and the boys knew they had a winner from a bag of mix match parts and all those late nights were well worth it.
    Then came the day and ever one was looking at the little six and no idea what lay under vale cover.
    When the flag was drop and the monster was set free to burn up the strip as no other six had ever done all eyes and ears were on the streak of lighting and smoke and fire that had just set a record and place the engine in a class of its own,
    Real ideals and its sad we don't have engines as OEM .

  • @slicepizza3263
    @slicepizza3263 2 года назад

    Maybe a switch to a conical valve spring can get you more retainer to Rocker clearance and improve the valve train.

  • @jackelrdhdhd4534
    @jackelrdhdhd4534 2 года назад

    It's called "mallory metal" plugs / we also used gas ported .064 pistons with a molly faced ring , THANKS FOR THE STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE.

  • @shawnlibby675
    @shawnlibby675 2 года назад +1

    18 years ago making 620 horsepower out of a 6 cylinder the guy who built it must be really really famous.. people must be trying to get in touch with him LOL... hey can you build me a 6-cylinder LOL

  • @wdbressl
    @wdbressl 2 года назад

    Boss 302 heads have screw in rocker studs vs pressed in used in regular Cleveland heads.

  • @whirlwind8825
    @whirlwind8825 3 года назад +1

    Good Video.

  • @honda_doc6826
    @honda_doc6826 3 года назад +1

    Thanks.

  • @brianpepin4744
    @brianpepin4744 2 года назад +1

    Someone needs to digitize that head and start making them out of billet and put them on the market!! I can’t imagine that they wouldn’t sell??

    • @terrycarter8929
      @terrycarter8929 2 года назад

      There was an old guy that was working on a prototype crossflow head. He passed away and who ever got ahold of his stuff said they will try to get it out to buy but nothing has happened. I'm sure the covid has had an effect on it. I want a crossflow head and very impatient about it. Lol.

  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 2 года назад +2

    Not knowing how many runs were made on the engine I would think you will be replacing the aluminum rods?

  • @cliveapps7105
    @cliveapps7105 2 года назад

    It would be interesting to see one of these built from with a SOHC 427 head chopped up and spliced. Blue Thunder and other modern heads could also be adapted. If the crank/block could take it at 9000 RPM the power should be 750 + hp

  • @lawhornracing6921
    @lawhornracing6921 5 месяцев назад

    Have that head 3d printed before you cut it. That’ll give you option to order new heads to spec

  • @codyedgington6852
    @codyedgington6852 3 года назад

    I've heard of using 390 pistons in these from back in the day for raised compression think they bored them.... .050 over to fit them

  • @mchris12391
    @mchris12391 3 года назад +2

    The rattle is probably that oil screen that’s loose

  • @smukface
    @smukface 3 года назад

    This is some true BADD ASS STUFF!....

  • @brianadams429
    @brianadams429 2 года назад

    My pops told me that the boss 302 Exhaust port bolt holes looks like a normal small block but obviously larger port than normal. Lets say bolt holes are inline
    Cleveland they are staggered like on that plate to raise exahaust port.
    302 . . . . .
    . .
    351. .

  • @arkhsm
    @arkhsm 3 года назад +1

    Mr Ellison, watch DragBoss Garage's Tim Halstead doing a live interview with Rusty Glidden, July 27 @ 7pm est Tim like me is a huge Glidden Cleveland Pro Stock Fan, who is currently trying to build 2 '70s style Clevo Pro Stock engines. p.s Tell him Adrian from New Zealand sent you !!

    • @arkhsm
      @arkhsm 3 года назад

      Also, the Ambross, Argenta, Huetmann rail in '87 held the E/Dragster straight 6 record, 7.68 sec @ 167mph if I remember correctly. They were Ford SVO engineers, and cast a few Race Blocks, and cut up and welded the current at the time, Nascar SVO alloy heads, and plonked them on top !!

    • @arkhsm
      @arkhsm 3 года назад

      RUclips has Pat Nahan's Similar FED, with it running a 7.38 @ 174.9 mph !!!

    • @jeffsligh9818
      @jeffsligh9818 2 года назад

      Tim also has the video of the person who built this engine!

  • @dalerogrrs7787
    @dalerogrrs7787 2 года назад

    My dad knows about that motor, I heard him talk about it several times

  • @markmoire2058
    @markmoire2058 2 года назад +2

    I still. Dig thru the junkpile it's more fun to build stuff that way it makes you use common sense instead of your wallet

  • @j.d.b.pennamesonofharraant3367
    @j.d.b.pennamesonofharraant3367 2 года назад

    👍 T⚡B Son of Harra

  • @dennisyoung4631
    @dennisyoung4631 8 месяцев назад

    That copper gasket protruding into the bore - acts like a glow-plug and pre-ignites???

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 2 года назад

    I am hope get a good check or two from this.

  • @corythomas4427
    @corythomas4427 2 года назад

    Have the ground straps on the spark plugs been folded over on purpose and "side gapped"? I've never tried doing that but have had it suggested to me before, especially by the small (less than 50cc) 2-stroke communities. BMW uses those style on some of their engines, usually 4 ground prongs and a very fine electrode.

  • @madislandguy
    @madislandguy Год назад

    Sure looks like they cut up Boss 302 heads judging by the water crossover port.

  • @marctomiuk6109
    @marctomiuk6109 2 года назад

    Hello Mr. Ellison, great videos! Can you recommend a good engine stand brand for exotics?

  • @supercuda1950
    @supercuda1950 2 года назад

    That pushrod looks like an old fashioned "wobble shaft", a speed secret first used on the Hudson Hornet Pro Stocker (lol).I now you are buzy with race engines but do you do high performance street engines like a stroker 440 Mopar?

  • @wilburcowart9590
    @wilburcowart9590 2 года назад

    Check Drag Race record back in the 1970's Gary Isabella

  • @misters2837
    @misters2837 2 года назад

    The crank is weird looking, though the 300-6 Forged Crank I have out of a F600 is kinda weird looking too...(compared to cast)...almost looks like the "smoothed and trimmed" a forged truck crank...

    • @terrycarter8929
      @terrycarter8929 2 года назад

      I have been searching for a forged crank..... none to be found.

    • @misters2837
      @misters2837 2 года назад

      @@terrycarter8929 You need to know where to look...Farmers are known for buying 6-cylinder Medium duty trucks.

  • @chasg9779
    @chasg9779 Год назад

    did you ever find out if that was a Sherman Sligh or jerry meade motor? jerry's had 6 chambers furnace brazed into one head,t

  • @richardsargent113
    @richardsargent113 Год назад

    When you're done with this Special build can you put out just one video of it?

  • @ggordon4127
    @ggordon4127 11 месяцев назад

    Knocking or could that noise of the loose oil pick up tube hitting the pan?

  • @charleswaynewright2042
    @charleswaynewright2042 2 года назад

    Dirt track crank most likely the ford 240 6 predecessor of the 300 ruled short dirt tracks I wonder if this is a short stroke 240 crank with a long rod acts like a stroker

  • @the666bud
    @the666bud 2 года назад

    I heard about this engine I think the guy that built it built a Dual overhead Cam chevy 350

  • @whyyoutalkingtome
    @whyyoutalkingtome 2 года назад

    I was "like" #351, cool beans

  • @shawnlibby675
    @shawnlibby675 2 года назад +1

    Ford Explorer 5.0 from 96 to 2001 Mercury Mountaineer game with a GT40 head three bar...and gt 40 p heads... Mount those heads onto a 351 and it makes way better power... now what if someone cut up a set of gt40p heads and stuck them on that 6 cylinder.... I do find it very hard to believe that whoever originally built this motor some years ago I'd be really shocked if it made 620 horsepower... is there any dyno stuff to this engine from the history... very very fascinating setup would love to see if there's any information on the original Builder

    • @timothybayliss6680
      @timothybayliss6680 2 года назад +1

      The gt40/gt40p heads are better than the factory 300 head but almost none. The work that went into this is right at the edge of what people can do and they used the best head they could find. The gt40p head is only better than the e5/e6/e7 heads. You could port a factory 300 head to flow more than a gt40p head in about an hour.
      I am also dubious of the 620hp claim. Those titanium intake valves aren't from 1970, either are those rockers. It maybe made 620hp once but that wasnt in the 70s. Alcohol injected solid roller stuff can be a miracle and this is roughly 3/4 of a 410 sprint car engine.

    • @shawnlibby675
      @shawnlibby675 2 года назад +1

      @@timothybayliss6680 I was told the gt40p head with some work put onto a 351 will make more power than the 351 heads .. I also have a guy in RUclips that flip-flops his pistons and rods around in a 302 he said it was an old racing trick from the 70s and it works on the Ford 302 ho Motors in the foxbodys literally takes a stock block 302 internal parts in just flip flops them around in a different order the Pistons and Rod that is and for some reason it changes a stroke just a little bit

    • @timothybayliss6680
      @timothybayliss6680 2 года назад

      @@shawnlibby675 the gt40p heads bolt right on any late model pedestal 351 if you drill the head bolts to 1/2". The intake bolt pattern and rocker geometry is the same. They are good for factory windsor heads but thats a really low bar.
      The 40p heads have a pretty good chamber but they need a specific exhaust manifold because of a unique plug angle.

  • @muskyelondragon
    @muskyelondragon 2 года назад

    Bad Ass

  • @Stevesbe
    @Stevesbe 2 года назад

    Wouldnt the valve sinking to far into the seat cause the rockers to contact the retainers

  • @randy1ization
    @randy1ization 2 года назад

    hello how much tolerance is there allowed in cylinder bores. I would think it impossible to get all cylinders the exact same diameter, top to bottom. lets say a block has been bored to .30 over stock. what is the minimum and maximum tolerance they can be off and still work. thanks

  • @hemisidetrack2767
    @hemisidetrack2767 3 года назад

    Hope that wasn't a fine crack in the intake port

  • @jamesharrison6201
    @jamesharrison6201 2 года назад

    Are you going to modify 2 302/351 Windsor heads like the guy back in the 70s for his Gas class pinto?

  • @hansdoel6375
    @hansdoel6375 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video but maybe sir please stop VVS it would be so much beter to see you do your thing on a fullscreen. (Vertical Video Syndrome)

  • @j.d.b.pennamesonofharraant3367
    @j.d.b.pennamesonofharraant3367 2 года назад

    F1 One Cylinder converted over into 4 cylinder or higher with twin turbo ... No Aluminum please ... Cast Iron

  • @fullblownredneck9623
    @fullblownredneck9623 2 года назад +1

    For the love of God, turn the camera horizontal.

  • @BurdDaddy
    @BurdDaddy 2 года назад

    #ROBDAMN .....& U NEED 2 sit down and redesign it with today’s BEST FLOWING Heads....Change to a Ducati DESMO dromic valve finger system. HIGH PRESSURIZED DIRECT INJECTION.
    With some sort of oscillating crank counter balance. To keep rotating assembly (once Up 2 Speed) Inertially FLYING. By Momentum.
    ALL Sprockets:Gears Meshed By Gear
    HARDENED & Sprayed With Some
    kind of silicone Teflon coating?
    Titanium Wristpins.... W/ a sort of
    Valve Tappet “cushion” effect ?
    Maybe a Rotary Shaped CamShaft with the Cavity. On a different oiling set up / cavity that allows gas pressure to be introduced. Sort of like a 2 Stroke?
    In turn spinning the “cam” core FASTTTTT.....
    I see Valve train being the issue?!
    But with Ducati DESMO Dromic style. I see WEAR & Service Life
    QUICK Fast in a hurry

  • @Sergio-ih6lk
    @Sergio-ih6lk 2 года назад +1

    The original engine builder was definitely trying to make a point a serious point just saying

  • @MrThunderCunt
    @MrThunderCunt 2 года назад

    My qestion is, why didnt ford think of doing this.

  • @joe-hp4nk
    @joe-hp4nk 2 года назад +1

    Too bad you couldn't trace the actual builder if he's still alive, that would be cool.

    • @jeffsligh9818
      @jeffsligh9818 2 года назад

      Original builder was Sherman Sligh

  • @dylanboyle2995
    @dylanboyle2995 2 года назад

    Where are you located

  • @mushmouth
    @mushmouth 2 года назад +2

    Get a better camera guy and camera. Shoot in 1080p

  • @tuzonthume
    @tuzonthume 2 года назад

    knock? wehat fuel were they running in 2008? i bet that knock was detonation.

  • @jimb8904
    @jimb8904 7 месяцев назад

    I. Really. Gave. Extra. Attention. To This. Video... when. You. Said. Broken. Sump... and. Strange. Knock. And. In. Like. Situations. I. Had. A. Flywheel. Make. Noise.. on. A. 350. Chev..and. a. . Loose. Distributor. Shaft... Knock. On. A 454..chev. and. One. Loose. Power. Steering. Bracket... on. A. Camaro...1968. To. Be. Closer. Than. For. Gov.t. work... I. Bought. The. 454. And. 350. And. Both. Got. Repaired. And. Never. Knocked. Again... just. Things. That. Can. Make. You. Think. The. Engine. Is. Trashed. When. It's. Still. Good. For. Years.. have. A. Nice. Day...
    ...

  • @juanmangerita
    @juanmangerita 2 года назад

    There is another ford inline 6 with gm LS heads

  • @cougarjetvi8894
    @cougarjetvi8894 3 года назад

    its a shame that this guy does not know what kind of engine he has.