Blood Bowl was pretty much the epitome of a gateway game for me. And by that I mean that my team is painted in my pre-school colours, I've been playing it for that long. And it's still one of my favourite games, despite me not being into sports.
I couldn't agree more, this was the game that dragged me back in from the cold when 3rd Edition came out, and it's the reason I'm the proud owner of a Terminator heavy Imperial force and a Genestealer Cult army! I also have some Harlequins kicking about thanks to the Death Masque release, which will end up expanding into my next army once I've picked some more cool models from the range. GW's been very savvy bringing these games back, now let's hope for some more support in the future! Did you get the recent White Dwarf with the air duct rules?
On board game list videos and online rating boards, a lot of the time, Blood Bowl, Space Crusade, and Space Hulk are discounted, because the manufacturer doesn’t consistently keep the box sets in stock. I remember there was a Board Game Geek rundown a while ago where they said Space Hulk is the best board game ever, by far, but they couldn’t rank it due to it being reviewbombed and taken out of production all the time.
Personally, I like both fantasy and sci-fi and though I can enjoy playing sports, I'm not into sports as a fan. There are 2 things that really made it for me in Blood Bowl: - the incredible humour; the game doesn't take itself seriously and gently mocks the whole American football show - the sort of rpg aspect where you create your team from scratch (who they are, where they come from, what team colours and why...), and in a league, your team can change (some players can die, others will get hired and some can get xp) Theoe are the two major aspects where I preferred buying BB than SH (though both are excellent)
The rules have been streamlined 20 years ago with the 3rd edition. The current rules are (mostly) the result of a long exercise of user feedback and community testing. So they work pretty well and did not need much of a retrofit.
After sixteen years away from the hobby, the re-realease of Blood Bowl is what has got me back into the hobby. I admit I was actively looking to get back into the hobby for a while - BB is what convinced me I could. Being a "grown-up" now, I don't have the same amount of time and money I did when I played in the past, and that is also true of my friends. With Blood Bowl I don't need to paint hundreds of miniatures, scenery etc, and it doesn't take a full afternoon to play either. It's basically less of a commitment and is more compatible with my life now. Will I go on to play other table tops? Maybe! It'll certainly be easier now that I have some paints etc So from my perspective, it's a good gateway game for return gamers. Oh and this channel has also been instrumental in getting me back into the hobby. Thanks!
I'm from the UK and can confirm that when I first played Blood Bowl in 1989 I was a fan of NFL. My friends and I used to collect the stickers in albums and try to catch the late night matches on Channel 4, my favourite team was the 49ers . So for my friends and me Blood Bowl was the perfect gateway game at the time. Most of us were fairly geeky in our interests anyway, so gaming was a fairly natural thing for us to do. Then along came Heroquest, Space Crusade, Space Hulk WH40k etc etc...... I gave my copy away years ago, but held onto my painted metal teams. Which was lucky, as last year (before the new version was released) I found a copy of the 3rd edition in a charity shop for less than £1 !! So i can ressurect my old teams and get playing again, but this time my daughter will be my main opponent. The circle of life.
I live in the US, but I made Blood Bowl teams based off of NFL teams... not that Blood Bowl itself didn't do that with teams like the Orkland Raiders and Dwarf Giants. I made a Elf Team named the Anaheim Rams and a Skaven Team called the Green Bay Rat Pack. I too kept my stuff, but I have no kids to pass it onto. No giant 'astro turf' styrofoam board now days, eh?
blktom no. i had two copies of the old version with styrofoam pitches. we played a four team/four end zones game once. with four balls. Absolute carnage.
@@hamhockbeans I never got the Eagles vibe from them to be honest. Besides, they have a Elf team called the Eagles, which is more fitting for the moniker. blood-bowl.fandom.com/wiki/Teams
Just picked it up this week. It's the last GW game I'm willing to get into because I "main" warmahordes. I plan to own every team as they get released both as an ode to my love of the Old World, but also to enjoy a good rules set that I can pull out when friends are over. I like the idea of getting a league going with friends, without pressuring them into spending money, assembling, learning to paint, and then actually painting their whole team.
Blood bowl was my gateway game, but the original crappy PC version. I think after seeing it on RUclips I was intrigued, bought it and played for a few years. Then when the 2nd came out I've been a big player of that, and it led me to be interested in the lore, which led to me buying a Age of Sigmar army and now finally blood Bowl itself. For me the biggest barrier for a new player is I'm the kind of person who wants to do something a lot. So I want to be building, painting and playing armies, but the fact I can't really transport my fragile elves stopped me playing much, which stopped me painting much, and I still haven't finished the army. Forward wind to today and I was excited to play and paint blood bowl figures, but with games workshops crappy subpar rosters in the box, I've been waiting around for more positionals or orc team boxes to be released before I really start playing, and so again I'm drifting away from the hobby. Sorry that was long but I hope that gives you an insight into what it's like to be starting the hobby, for me at least, in Britain
I began with warhammer 8th edition. It was a huge mountain of new information I just had to absorb in order to play. Luckily, I enjoy building and painting which helped. Now I'm playing age of sigmar and must admit I prefer that system way more due to having the wall of rules among the warscrolls instead of in the basic rules. I have perfect understanding of my army, the basic rules and the scenarios now. Which also made it easy for me to learn others this game, it does not take 2 hours to learn the basics, or play the game of 1000pts. All in all, Age of Sigmar is a pretty good wargame for beginners and experts alike as it is now, if you are into fantasy ofc. Then again, the beginner need a veteran who has a pedagogical mindset when teaching. All communities within wargaming need that one guy who knows how to teach a person in a way which allows that individual to grasp the fun. However, this also means all beginners has to be directed to "that guy" at all times to avoid the risk of sad stories.
You hit the nail on the head early in the video. It depends upon the what you're into. Sci-fi might work for some, fantasy for others. This game is designed more around a sport aspect, which draws another demographic. So yeah, its a gateway game, but maybe not for everyone.
The moment that I first played Guild Ball, I knew that it was a great game, and their Kick Off box set was a great gateway game. It surpasses Blood Bowl on everything that I personally value in a game. (If anyone wants to know why badly enough, just ask) My gateway game was Hero Quest, though.
My first introduction was in Space Hulk. It was simple , fast and furious. I later played blood bowl. I must admit that SH was the start to tabletop gaming.
I think you focused on the right aspects. Bloodbowl might be a mechanically solid, fun, intuitive game. But if (like myself) the tongue-in-cheek premise and comedic theme doesn't appeal, it won't be a gateway.
Just got into blood bowl. I had been curious about it for about a decade,but never gave it a try until recently.. it's easily one of my favorite games ever made, and I'm a guy that owns over 100 board games and has been a into tabletop/video games for over 15 years. I think It's got a perfect amount of tactics and strategy mixed with chaotic push your luck "go for Glory" dice rolling .. I don't like having luck be a key factor in my games, but in blood bowl I always feel like I'm mostly in control of my game, so the luck factor just becomes an added excitement factor for me. It also keeps the game from feeling stale. When things go sideways, you are gifted with this awesome dynamic puzzle/situation to try and overcome. If your reading this and on the fence about blood bowl...buy this game. The new edition is incredible value and it's a game that gets better each time you play it. It creates stories with all it's wild and statistical improbable moments. And it's a fun hobby project. If you hate it, the after market will give you nearly full price or more depending on the availability in your area. Happy gaming. 😎🏈🎲🎲🎲
I think I will buy one for my brother. He have started X-wing recently and my plan is to convert him to AOS step by step. Based on your video, it looks like Blood Bowl is a good choice. He likes sports, he did not play any game involving crafts so far, so maybe it will be a good thing to start. Thanks for the video. I really enjoy this channel. Regards from Europe!
This was an interesting video for me. I'm not a sports fan, but the fantasy aspect is what drew me into it. Playing Blood Bowl, and painting miniatures, got its hooks into me. When 40K 8th Ed came out, I couldn't resist picking it up.
Blood Bowl was my gateway game. I loved weekends with my buds, playing our tiny league, and smashing our teams into each other. The biggest draw was these awesome models that you needed a maximum of 16 of. No million model games.
That's wild that you're in WI! I have great memories of gaming around the Madison area in the 90's. Playing 2nd Ed. 40k in our basement, driving over to Pegasus games (the west OR State st location) to pick up figures we thought we should have had for that last game, and then finishing the night at a Rocky Rococo. Good times!
Awesome "Drink Wisconsinbly" shirt, Atom! Where in WI do you guys live? Blood Bowl is fantastic. It's got great rules, great minis, great fluff, and it's easy to learn/play while still having depth.
great video atom as always! after watching your channel for some time now I have decided to start my own channel to help grow the hobby in my small way. now more related to this particular video I'm hoping to get a game of bloodbowl in tonight for the first time at my local shop.
Like you I was first introduced to the hobby in the early 90s and Blood Bowl was the game I gravitated towards I have been a fan of sci-fi and fantasy for as long as I can remember but I am not nor have I ever been a "sports fan" What appealed to me was the silliness of it all... I love Sir Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels and Blood Bowl is very similar in the weird humour you see throughout the world in which the game takes place
Ive been Interested! Im going down to a new local game store tonight who a friend who I x-wing with invited me to there league game tonight to check it out. Im excited!!! :D Thanks Uncle Atom!
Very few of our group are 'sporty' but this game is certainly played. Strategy, tactics, kind dice, awful dice, a belly laugh and seething anger all together. It's got it all.
I always loved the bonkers concept of American football being played in a fantasy context. Never played BB, but thought it looked so much fun, and tbh whenever I played football/soccer video games I would always (and I mean always) go to the customization options and make a team of undead. No idea why, but it always appealed to me for some reason!
I gone back to 40k after collecting 2nd edition as kid with friends. Chaos marines and death guard are what I'm collecting now. (My lad saw some old white dwarf during clear out and he said wanted paint some. (So bought few box sets with the above and space marines so gave him them, first strike and know no fear box sets, start collecting chaos marines and few little army boost figures, and through a friends recommendation just got today storm strike set too... ) I have blood bowl on my xbox one and love it so may take punt on this too
whoa whoa whoa! Time out! Space Hulk is based off of Aliens?!?! Talk about hooks and gateway games. I watch your channel because I got into minifig painting for DnD sessions, but now I have to get my hands on Space Hulk!
+Nick Cesaro It's not *directly* based off the movie Aliens, but it's the 40k equivalent. The Tyranids play the part of the xenomorphs, and the Terminator Space Marines play the part of the Colonial Marines. There are tons of similarities. Thanks for watching!
i just got back into the hobby because of bloodbowl, but i like fantasy stuff and play league soccer so i'm the target demographic for it i plan on getting into aos once my flgs starts playing again
Human balls are made from Pigskin. Orks... Squigs. Dwarfs are stone, metal and gems. Skaven... Metal capped Warpstone. :P I don't think Blood Bowl is aimed at sports fans at all honestly... while it may look like such... it doesn't play like such. It plays like a very elaborate strategy game. That's not an edge case at all... as most players of this game are not generally sports people... as this game is NOT fast to play and you must make very calculated moves and positioning. Then you fall prey to the dice gods and your player trips and snaps their neck.
I am going to use Gangs Of Commorragh on my new girlfriend, I sold it as being like dark sci-fi Quidditch! I've also used the Silver Tower on some of my old D&D group buddies heheheh I think the best gateway games are X-Wing, Space Hulk, Warhammer Quest or Lost Patrol
I think Blood Bowl is decent as a gateway game, but not perfect, as it's missing an important but oft overlooked element - you can't use your Blood Bowl teams in any other GW game. Mordheim is nigh perfect, because except for very special characters, your warband can be drawn directly from your Age of Sigmar army, and is therefore a very good to great gateway game. Gorka Morka can use Orks from your 40K army, and is very good (you can't use the trukks anywhere else, and they're the focus of the game, otherwise it'd be great). Space Hulk, also great, because you're just using Terminators and Genestealers straight from the main game with some simple paper maps (and while GW was selling the board game sets, a great cheap way to get a bunch of both models as starters for both armies). BattleFront really pegged this with their (Gale Force Nine produced) Tanks line, to the point that their new Flames of War plastic model sets that are also in the Tanks game, come with the cards for Tanks.
The counter to that is that it is a cheap way of getting into gaming. Even if you play Necromunda or Mordheim you are looking at spending big money, even with those figs, to get into AoS and 40k. You can play BB forever with those figs or minimal upgrades. And by providing two teams, allows you to play with someone else whenever you want.
The trucks from Gorka Morka are legal to use in 40k. Those are the old model for the ork trukk, and GW supports every model they've ever made. The small Rhinos from the 90s are legal, the original terminators on 25mm bases are also still legal. You aren't required to use the new larger base sizes as long as the model is on the base it came with.
I actually started with Space Crusade, before playing Space Hulk then Space Marine Epic. Then Warhammer Quest. The whole time I collected and drooled over and painted and obsessed with 40K Blood Angel Space Marines. But never actually had a full game of 40K.
speaking of space hulk.... did you see the Table Top wargame Aliens VS Predator the hunt begins? plays like space hulk only more wargame ish in the ruleset. Prodos games is also releasing the full tabletop rules compatible with Warzone Resurrection. APC'S, Dropships, predator jet bikes, tons of Alien troop types, etc. I'll be covering more on my channel soon, in the meantime see my Facebook Group AVP Wargamer
That sounds pretty awesome! I'm sorry to say AVP bombed locally, our local shop had the starter box advertised at 60% off retail and it just wouldn't shift; also a mate of mine waited for either 1 or 2 years for his Kickstarter and it killed any enthusiasm he might have passed on to me. For my part I'm a sworn Space Hulk fan so AVP caught my eye; I worried that it's be more of the same so I didn't buy in but a full scale wargame in the same setting? I'm very intrigued!
What is everyone's opinion on Star Wars Armada? All the miniatures are pre-painted so it is somewhat easier to justify and get into for those who don't enjoy painting, yet still contains a lot of complexity in the actual game. It is definitely overshadowed by its cousin, X Wing, but I still think it has a worthy place in the wargaming scene. As a Warhammer AoS Player, I think the whole idea of big fleet battles is a really appealing, welcome change and open to a lot of tactical depth. So far I've only bought the Core Set, but I'm going to my local shop tomorrow to pick up two more ships. Suffice to say, I'm rather hooked.
Armada will cost you more than X-Wing. Which makes sense, ships are physically bigger. The gameplay is more... I'm not sure if deep but it requires a lot of forward planning, much more than X-Wing. So, a very good game, I think it is hurt a bit by looking similar to X-wing while being a lot different.
I actually really enjoy the aspect of planning and trying to second-guess your opponent. It makes for some great moments when your careful strategy finally pays off. I do agree though, it is very aesthetically similar to X-Wing while playing nothing like it.
I have always described Blood Bowl as the intersection between Dungeons & Dragons, Football, and Chess. If someone likes any 2 of those, this would be good for them.
Thanks for the video, my little brother is into Warhammer question what to start with, but he is a football fan, so he might have to pick up blood bowl starter
To add a perspective that rather proves your point. Like you I got into the hobby thanks to sci-fi, Space Crusade for me. I had 2nd and 4th Ed 40k, but fell out of the hobby for over a decade. My gaming interests tends to sci-fi, but my reading for fantasy. I'm a huge sports fan, most sports, but my sport of choice is rugby (only stopped playing when my eldest was born 3 years ago, aside from one game 6 months back. Bloodbowl has worked perfectly as a gateway game for me. The sports hook, the fantasy hook, it's exactly what I needed to get me interested, at a point in my life I was looking for something to replace my rugby playing. I've entered a league starting in a couple of weeks, and played 3 "friendly" games so far Off the back of that I've not only bought an Amazon BB team, but I also bought the frostgrave rules and a few minis, and I'm looking to get into that, malifaux, necromunda and maybe Guildball. My taste is skirmish, ideally with a campaign angle (narrative style games) This isn't everyone's idea of a gateway game, as you rightly say, but for some of us it is perfect And that for me is the point of GWs specialist games, something they forgot when they sacked them off. These small scale games are what bring people into the hobby. And even at a small scale it's not cheap. With the box, Death Zone, paints (lots) and accessories I've probably sunk pushing £150 into GW, plus money elsewhere Specialist games are what GW needs if it hopes to grow its player base. I'm already spreading myself too thin game system wise, and yet I'm still eyeing up AoS as something else that interests me. (Surprisingly I find myself bored by the direction 40k has gone)
I began wargaming in about... 2002 (Warhammer 40K). Blood Bowl always seemed stupid to me because if you are playing orcs or vampires or elves, it should be an army, amirite? A while ago a friend from the circle of friends with whom I play games (whether via internet or on the table) bought Blood Bowl 2 and got the others into it, too. They planned a small tournament and I had to join to not get excluded for the time. My first team was orcs and I played without much joy until one of my black orcs stumbled and broke his neck. Then I got really salty. At that time I did not know about journeymen so I replaced the dead black orc with a goblin. And the goblin... was fun. Suddenly I realised how deep, tactical and fun Blood Bowl could be. Currently, I am painting the human team from the starter box.
It's only temporarily out of stock.. it will be available again (you can click the email notification to get alerted when it's back in stock). www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Blood-Bowl-Skaven-and-Dwarf-Pitch The winter pitch was a holiday issue though.
I've been enjoying it, even had a few games with my dad and some friends BUUUUT...that old issue came up. People i know don't like learning the rules, even more so when video games are pretty much instantly there and easy to play. Kinda sucks but hey, i'll keep trying to get them into it
Greetings, I bought the boardgame "Blood Bowl" and I would like suggestion of TEAMS to buy. I was thinking to buy only 2 teams from this list: - Blood Bowl: Chaos Chosen Team - Blood Bowl: Dark Elf Team - Blood Bowl: Dwarf Team - Blood Bowl: Skaven Team What team do you suggest ? Thanks.
You seem to forget one thing that make people addict to Blood Bowl: FUN (and humour), which other GW games lack. Blood Bowl coaches basically doesn't like to make WAR, they prefer to have FUN. That's basically what differentiate us.
Blood Bowl is game that has become more and more popular at LGS nearest to me. So I would say that it's good gateway game and lot easier to find than Guild Ball that's also fantasy american football game.
The first blood bowl game was a gateway game for me to introduce me to miniature wargaming. Now i'm playing wh40k, whfb/aos and im thinking of getting into Malifaux. The fun thing is that i HATE sports, i really hate it with all my heart, but i found Blood bowl to be really fun but it was mostly because of the miniatures. I would love to play Space hulk, i really dont understand why they wont remake the game because the demand seems to be pretty high. Hey Atom! Great video, as always! I'm a big fan of your content :)
The reason i think that Blood Bowl was a good gateway game was because it was cheap! I just needed my standard vampire team, which costed like 25 euro if i remember correctly, but now aos kind of fill that void of "cheap" gateway game.
I dont find wargaming interesting, yet. I do like watching it but i dont see myself playing it at the moment. I want to focus on collecting, painting and terrain building.
Hey, so, new here, love your vids :D I'm trying to get into tabletop gaming, Age of Sigmar specifically. Loved Warhammer since the Warhammer MMO (Age of Reckoning) and way back when I was a kid seeing a few guys playing it at some game store I played a smash bros tourney at. I recently bought the starting kit for the Ironjawz, but once I'm done painting, and maybe add a few more pieces to the mix, how do I go about finding a group to play with? I've searched online, and maybe I just don't know where to look, but I cant find a good hub or forum.
Also... What's the best way to get accustomed to the rule-set? They seem overly complicated (in a cool way, but still a barrier for a newbie) Normally I'd get two players worth, and play vs myself to understand, and to tweak my forces (coming from a Pokemon TCG standpoint, but in that regard, it's much easier to make 2 players worth)
I'd check at local gaming stores if you can, there's usually either people who play there or the owner or employees know people who are playing. Thanks for watching!
Blitz Bowl is a faster game... maybe even a more accessible fantasy football game for newcomers. We are getting blood bowl teams and splitting the 12 miniatures into two blitz bowl teams of 6 minis per team.
What's people's thoughts one using third party figures? I've got some third party lizardmen because they look really good and I've never converted anything before so It was easier. I don't want to wait around for gw to release some, just wanted to jump into the game.
that all depends on the league you are in. The one I play in has no qualms with 3rd party figs (or even unpainted ones), and I've seen some that look rather amazing, and as far as me personally, as long as the figs look nice it shouldn't matter
I like blood bowl exactly because it is not pure fantasy. It has a foot in reality, it's humoristic, uses some codes and funny references of our present time. And I really don't care about american football (I am French...actually one of the biggest community of blood bowl gamers is in France, a country which has absolutely no link with american football). I used to play warhammer and blood bowl when I was teenager, and now, 20 years later, I am back in blood bowl, but I know I will never go further in the hobby. I guess all games have different publics.
I've discovered a new drinking game. You watch three videos of Tabletop Minions, scroll down into the comment section and find Atom's replies to comments, every time you see him end a reply with "Thanks for watching." Take a shot. P.S. Have fun with the alcohol poisoning.
I had bloodbowl (and warhammer) in the 90s but never had anyone to play against. Bloodbowl was always accessable and fun in the 4 times i actually played it. I'd love to buy it again but fear it will be money wasted with no one really in my area who plays it. Time to bring Jordell Freshbreeze out of retirement?
Great Review! normally i was not into american football, but this product caught some of my attention, with your review i now want to buy it and give it a test drive with my wife to get her into wargaming, right now i only paint but if with this we can share a hobby for now and then it would be awesome, keep the good work :)
So you didn't see the Aliens team Kickstarter then...? Also Blood Bowl only exists as the product of a job interview for GW that Jervis Johnson produced to get the job. Rather impressive I feel 😀🏈🧚♀️🤷🏻♂️
Have you ever considered doing voiceover/audiobook work? You have such a buttery smooth voice. I am a 30 year old man and I want you to read me stories, haha.
GW should do BB 40K. Instant hit guaranteed. Also, they should really re-think how they make the models for it. There are plenty of companies now that have been making BB miniatures and they're all much better than GW's products. I have around 14 BB teams and only 1 of them is made with GW models (still not their BB models, I've customized regular WFB minis).
I play basketball and am about to go into college to play but I hate watching the NBA, watching the sport I play never was fun to me. Games though, hooooo, I could watch and wish I could play all day
I personally don't find Blood bowl interesting because of it's sports theme and I don't care for sports at all but I'm glad that there are people out there that enjoy it
I actually think that it's kinda funny how much GW has gotten wrong when it comes to American Football. While I know Soccer is played on a pitch, football is played on a field. Players who aren't current in the football game don't go to a dugout (that's baseball), that stand on the sidelines.
I really have to disagree on this one. Regardless of the fantasy and sports angle, there's nothing about Warhammer in Blood Bowl except for the fantasy races. You talked about how the teams were already colored. This would cause someone new to most likely not even try to paint their team. And, you mentioned trying to paint Orc armor without and leaving the sprue green color for their skin... that'd be tough without some kind of primer to get the paint to stick. The models are are very slick, and painting or washing just won't work well without a primer base. And, if you only want to paint the armor, the masking process would be so difficult that it'd probably turn someone off to the game immediately. I honestly haven't played Space Hulk, but from what little I've seen, it has much more of a 40K feel to it that could actually be a gateway into the 40K lore. Silver Tower is a great example from the fantasy side. Rules may be slightly changed, but there's enough that's the same that it could open up someone to the idea of wanting their own 40K figures. Blood Bowl, while a good game, has figures that are nothing like anything else in the Fantasy Line and can't be used in AoS games. Is Blood Bowl something you could bring to a friend's house on a board game day and enjoy with others (even though it's not really a board game)? Yeah, sure. Is it something that will give anyone (even sports and fantasy fans) a reason to want to get into AoS and 40K? I really don't think so.
Actually, an Escalation League seems like a much better way to get someone started in AoS or 40K than Blood Bowl. My store is currently running where you buy a character from a blister pack (or its equivalent... so that everyone is on more-or-less even ground... so like no Monstrous Creatures). We have two weeks to paint the single model with painting lessons going on at the store for free. And, then we start the league with just the one model. Points or units will go up as the league continues, but nothing has been announced yet.
Actually, you might want to look for a similar game by the same company called Blitz Bowl. It’s a bit smaller and easier. However, it’s only sold at Barnes & Nobles for some reason. Good luck, and thanks for watching!
Blood Bowl is GW's best game period.
Warhammer was my gateway into Blood Bowl!
ColonelTacki This.
Me too 😂
I guess I am kind of randomly asking but does anybody know a good site to watch newly released movies online ?
@Erick Levi I would suggest flixzone. You can find it on google =)
@Caiden Grant Definitely, I've been using FlixZone for since march myself =)
Blood Bowl was pretty much the epitome of a gateway game for me. And by that I mean that my team is painted in my pre-school colours, I've been playing it for that long. And it's still one of my favourite games, despite me not being into sports.
Similar, I find sports rather dull, but I love Blood Bowl 🏈
Space Hulk would be the best gateway game if GW would leave it on sale for longer than a random 5 minutes every couple of years/decade.
I couldn't agree more, this was the game that dragged me back in from the cold when 3rd Edition came out, and it's the reason I'm the proud owner of a Terminator heavy Imperial force and a Genestealer Cult army! I also have some Harlequins kicking about thanks to the Death Masque release, which will end up expanding into my next army once I've picked some more cool models from the range. GW's been very savvy bringing these games back, now let's hope for some more support in the future! Did you get the recent White Dwarf with the air duct rules?
Yup im getting sick of every time i go into my Games Workshop they tell me to order it online.
On board game list videos and online rating boards, a lot of the time, Blood Bowl, Space Crusade, and Space Hulk are discounted, because the manufacturer doesn’t consistently keep the box sets in stock. I remember there was a Board Game Geek rundown a while ago where they said Space Hulk is the best board game ever, by far, but they couldn’t rank it due to it being reviewbombed and taken out of production all the time.
Personally, I like both fantasy and sci-fi and though I can enjoy playing sports, I'm not into sports as a fan. There are 2 things that really made it for me in Blood Bowl:
- the incredible humour; the game doesn't take itself seriously and gently mocks the whole American football show
- the sort of rpg aspect where you create your team from scratch (who they are, where they come from, what team colours and why...), and in a league, your team can change (some players can die, others will get hired and some can get xp)
Theoe are the two major aspects where I preferred buying BB than SH (though both are excellent)
What is SH?
@@davidsentell1226 I’m guessing Space Hulk
The rules have been streamlined 20 years ago with the 3rd edition. The current rules are (mostly) the result of a long exercise of user feedback and community testing. So they work pretty well and did not need much of a retrofit.
After sixteen years away from the hobby, the re-realease of Blood Bowl is what has got me back into the hobby. I admit I was actively looking to get back into the hobby for a while - BB is what convinced me I could.
Being a "grown-up" now, I don't have the same amount of time and money I did when I played in the past, and that is also true of my friends. With Blood Bowl I don't need to paint hundreds of miniatures, scenery etc, and it doesn't take a full afternoon to play either. It's basically less of a commitment and is more compatible with my life now.
Will I go on to play other table tops? Maybe! It'll certainly be easier now that I have some paints etc
So from my perspective, it's a good gateway game for return gamers.
Oh and this channel has also been instrumental in getting me back into the hobby. Thanks!
I'm from the UK and can confirm that when I first played Blood Bowl in 1989 I was a fan of NFL. My friends and I used to collect the stickers in albums and try to catch the late night matches on Channel 4, my favourite team was the 49ers . So for my friends and me Blood Bowl was the perfect gateway game at the time. Most of us were fairly geeky in our interests anyway, so gaming was a fairly natural thing for us to do. Then along came Heroquest, Space Crusade, Space Hulk WH40k etc etc...... I gave my copy away years ago, but held onto my painted metal teams. Which was lucky, as last year (before the new version was released) I found a copy of the 3rd edition in a charity shop for less than £1 !! So i can ressurect my old teams and get playing again, but this time my daughter will be my main opponent. The circle of life.
Chad The Inhaler that's awesome man!
I live in the US, but I made Blood Bowl teams based off of NFL teams... not that Blood Bowl itself didn't do that with teams like the Orkland Raiders and Dwarf Giants. I made a Elf Team named the Anaheim Rams and a Skaven Team called the Green Bay Rat Pack. I too kept my stuff, but I have no kids to pass it onto. No giant 'astro turf' styrofoam board now days, eh?
blktom no. i had two copies of the old version with styrofoam pitches. we played a four team/four end zones game once. with four balls. Absolute carnage.
@@blktom Wonder what the humans with the winged helmets team remind you of in the NFL. Hint..city of brotherly love.
@@hamhockbeans I never got the Eagles vibe from them to be honest. Besides, they have a Elf team called the Eagles, which is more fitting for the moniker.
blood-bowl.fandom.com/wiki/Teams
i also am not a sports fan Adam, but did enjoy Sega's Mutant League football.....
+James Lowery I'm pretty sure I remember that game, and some kind of sci-fi robot football video game I really enjoyed, too. Thanks for watching!
Just picked it up this week. It's the last GW game I'm willing to get into because I "main" warmahordes. I plan to own every team as they get released both as an ode to my love of the Old World, but also to enjoy a good rules set that I can pull out when friends are over. I like the idea of getting a league going with friends, without pressuring them into spending money, assembling, learning to paint, and then actually painting their whole team.
Blood bowl was my gateway game, but the original crappy PC version. I think after seeing it on RUclips I was intrigued, bought it and played for a few years. Then when the 2nd came out I've been a big player of that, and it led me to be interested in the lore, which led to me buying a Age of Sigmar army and now finally blood Bowl itself. For me the biggest barrier for a new player is I'm the kind of person who wants to do something a lot. So I want to be building, painting and playing armies, but the fact I can't really transport my fragile elves stopped me playing much, which stopped me painting much, and I still haven't finished the army. Forward wind to today and I was excited to play and paint blood bowl figures, but with games workshops crappy subpar rosters in the box, I've been waiting around for more positionals or orc team boxes to be released before I really start playing, and so again I'm drifting away from the hobby. Sorry that was long but I hope that gives you an insight into what it's like to be starting the hobby, for me at least, in Britain
I began with warhammer 8th edition. It was a huge mountain of new information I just had to absorb in order to play. Luckily, I enjoy building and painting which helped.
Now I'm playing age of sigmar and must admit I prefer that system way more due to having the wall of rules among the warscrolls instead of in the basic rules. I have perfect understanding of my army, the basic rules and the scenarios now. Which also made it easy for me to learn others this game, it does not take 2 hours to learn the basics, or play the game of 1000pts. All in all, Age of Sigmar is a pretty good wargame for beginners and experts alike as it is now, if you are into fantasy ofc.
Then again, the beginner need a veteran who has a pedagogical mindset when teaching. All communities within wargaming need that one guy who knows how to teach a person in a way which allows that individual to grasp the fun. However, this also means all beginners has to be directed to "that guy" at all times to avoid the risk of sad stories.
You hit the nail on the head early in the video. It depends upon the what you're into. Sci-fi might work for some, fantasy for others. This game is designed more around a sport aspect, which draws another demographic. So yeah, its a gateway game, but maybe not for everyone.
The moment that I first played Guild Ball, I knew that it was a great game, and their Kick Off box set was a great gateway game. It surpasses Blood Bowl on everything that I personally value in a game. (If anyone wants to know why badly enough, just ask)
My gateway game was Hero Quest, though.
My first introduction was in Space Hulk. It was simple , fast and furious. I later played blood bowl. I must admit that SH was the start to tabletop gaming.
I think you focused on the right aspects. Bloodbowl might be a mechanically solid, fun, intuitive game. But if (like myself) the tongue-in-cheek premise and comedic theme doesn't appeal, it won't be a gateway.
Just got into blood bowl. I had been curious about it for about a decade,but never gave it a try until recently.. it's easily one of my favorite games ever made, and I'm a guy that owns over 100 board games and has been a into tabletop/video games for over 15 years. I think It's got a perfect amount of tactics and strategy mixed with chaotic push your luck "go for Glory" dice rolling .. I don't like having luck be a key factor in my games, but in blood bowl I always feel like I'm mostly in control of my game, so the luck factor just becomes an added excitement factor for me. It also keeps the game from feeling stale. When things go sideways, you are gifted with this awesome dynamic puzzle/situation to try and overcome.
If your reading this and on the fence about blood bowl...buy this game. The new edition is incredible value and it's a game that gets better each time you play it. It creates stories with all it's wild and statistical improbable moments. And it's a fun hobby project. If you hate it, the after market will give you nearly full price or more depending on the availability in your area. Happy gaming. 😎🏈🎲🎲🎲
I think I will buy one for my brother. He have started X-wing recently and my plan is to convert him to AOS step by step. Based on your video, it looks like Blood Bowl is a good choice. He likes sports, he did not play any game involving crafts so far, so maybe it will be a good thing to start. Thanks for the video. I really enjoy this channel. Regards from Europe!
This was an interesting video for me. I'm not a sports fan, but the fantasy aspect is what drew me into it. Playing Blood Bowl, and painting miniatures, got its hooks into me. When 40K 8th Ed came out, I couldn't resist picking it up.
Blood Bowl was my gateway game. I loved weekends with my buds, playing our tiny league, and smashing our teams into each other. The biggest draw was these awesome models that you needed a maximum of 16 of. No million model games.
I love sports and boardgames. This games was meant for me.
Currently playing in first BB league and it is great!!!! Very addictive
That's wild that you're in WI! I have great memories of gaming around the Madison area in the 90's. Playing 2nd Ed. 40k in our basement, driving over to Pegasus games (the west OR State st location) to pick up figures we thought we should have had for that last game, and then finishing the night at a Rocky Rococo. Good times!
Blood bowl is with no doubt the best product of gw.
Cheap, funny, long leagues... warhammer dreams with that
According to the automatic captions, you learned about football through Moses. :-)
Awesome "Drink Wisconsinbly" shirt, Atom! Where in WI do you guys live?
Blood Bowl is fantastic. It's got great rules, great minis, great fluff, and it's easy to learn/play while still having depth.
Brand new to the channel here. Came for the game, stayed for the voice.
great video atom as always! after watching your channel for some time now I have decided to start my own channel to help grow the hobby in my small way. now more related to this particular video I'm hoping to get a game of bloodbowl in tonight for the first time at my local shop.
Like you I was first introduced to the hobby in the early 90s and Blood Bowl was the game I gravitated towards
I have been a fan of sci-fi and fantasy for as long as I can remember but I am not nor have I ever been a "sports fan"
What appealed to me was the silliness of it all... I love Sir Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels and Blood Bowl is very similar in the weird humour you see throughout the world in which the game takes place
Ive been Interested! Im going down to a new local game store tonight who a friend who I x-wing with invited me to there league game tonight to check it out. Im excited!!! :D
Thanks Uncle Atom!
It could be a gateway game for those into the video game.
Very few of our group are 'sporty' but this game is certainly played. Strategy, tactics, kind dice, awful dice, a belly laugh and seething anger all together. It's got it all.
I always loved the bonkers concept of American football being played in a fantasy context. Never played BB, but thought it looked so much fun, and tbh whenever I played football/soccer video games I would always (and I mean always) go to the customization options and make a team of undead. No idea why, but it always appealed to me for some reason!
most people don't play blood bowl for the sport aspects, but i see what you are saying
Nah they play it for the violence Jim and the Blood Weiser babes
I gone back to 40k after collecting 2nd edition as kid with friends.
Chaos marines and death guard are what I'm collecting now. (My lad saw some old white dwarf during clear out and he said wanted paint some. (So bought few box sets with the above and space marines so gave him them, first strike and know no fear box sets, start collecting chaos marines and few little army boost figures, and through a friends recommendation just got today storm strike set too... ) I have blood bowl on my xbox one and love it so may take punt on this too
whoa whoa whoa! Time out! Space Hulk is based off of Aliens?!?! Talk about hooks and gateway games. I watch your channel because I got into minifig painting for DnD sessions, but now I have to get my hands on Space Hulk!
+Nick Cesaro It's not *directly* based off the movie Aliens, but it's the 40k equivalent. The Tyranids play the part of the xenomorphs, and the Terminator Space Marines play the part of the Colonial Marines. There are tons of similarities. Thanks for watching!
Nick Cesaro yeah it's similar in some respects
i just got back into the hobby because of bloodbowl, but i like fantasy stuff and play league soccer so i'm the target demographic for it
i plan on getting into aos once my flgs starts playing again
Ryan Fry have you looked into GuildBall?
i have, but i haven't played it yet, i'll have to see if some of the guys at the game store would be into trying it
Figured it might be worth a try being like soccer and all. Glad to hear you've made your way back into the hobby!
I am think you missed about the fact is it is highly strategic too, yet at the whim of the dice. It's like fantasy chess.
Human balls are made from Pigskin. Orks... Squigs. Dwarfs are stone, metal and gems. Skaven... Metal capped Warpstone. :P
I don't think Blood Bowl is aimed at sports fans at all honestly... while it may look like such... it doesn't play like such. It plays like a very elaborate strategy game. That's not an edge case at all... as most players of this game are not generally sports people... as this game is NOT fast to play and you must make very calculated moves and positioning. Then you fall prey to the dice gods and your player trips and snaps their neck.
I am going to use Gangs Of Commorragh on my new girlfriend, I sold it as being like dark sci-fi Quidditch! I've also used the Silver Tower on some of my old D&D group buddies heheheh I think the best gateway games are X-Wing, Space Hulk, Warhammer Quest or Lost Patrol
Sean Kavanagh good luck!
Nice chat fella
I think Blood Bowl is decent as a gateway game, but not perfect, as it's missing an important but oft overlooked element - you can't use your Blood Bowl teams in any other GW game. Mordheim is nigh perfect, because except for very special characters, your warband can be drawn directly from your Age of Sigmar army, and is therefore a very good to great gateway game. Gorka Morka can use Orks from your 40K army, and is very good (you can't use the trukks anywhere else, and they're the focus of the game, otherwise it'd be great). Space Hulk, also great, because you're just using Terminators and Genestealers straight from the main game with some simple paper maps (and while GW was selling the board game sets, a great cheap way to get a bunch of both models as starters for both armies). BattleFront really pegged this with their (Gale Force Nine produced) Tanks line, to the point that their new Flames of War plastic model sets that are also in the Tanks game, come with the cards for Tanks.
The counter to that is that it is a cheap way of getting into gaming. Even if you play Necromunda or Mordheim you are looking at spending big money, even with those figs, to get into AoS and 40k. You can play BB forever with those figs or minimal upgrades. And by providing two teams, allows you to play with someone else whenever you want.
The trucks from Gorka Morka are legal to use in 40k. Those are the old model for the ork trukk, and GW supports every model they've ever made.
The small Rhinos from the 90s are legal, the original terminators on 25mm bases are also still legal. You aren't required to use the new larger base sizes as long as the model is on the base it came with.
I actually started with Space Crusade, before playing Space Hulk then Space Marine Epic. Then Warhammer Quest. The whole time I collected and drooled over and painted and obsessed with 40K Blood Angel Space Marines. But never actually had a full game of 40K.
that's awesome your here in WI I'm just north of Milwaukee here
speaking of space hulk.... did you see the Table Top wargame Aliens VS Predator the hunt begins? plays like space hulk only more wargame ish in the ruleset. Prodos games is also releasing the full tabletop rules compatible with Warzone Resurrection. APC'S, Dropships, predator jet bikes, tons of Alien troop types, etc. I'll be covering more on my channel soon, in the meantime see my Facebook Group AVP Wargamer
That sounds pretty awesome! I'm sorry to say AVP bombed locally, our local shop had the starter box advertised at 60% off retail and it just wouldn't shift; also a mate of mine waited for either 1 or 2 years for his Kickstarter and it killed any enthusiasm he might have passed on to me. For my part I'm a sworn Space Hulk fan so AVP caught my eye; I worried that it's be more of the same so I didn't buy in but a full scale wargame in the same setting? I'm very intrigued!
What is everyone's opinion on Star Wars Armada? All the miniatures are pre-painted so it is somewhat easier to justify and get into for those who don't enjoy painting, yet still contains a lot of complexity in the actual game. It is definitely overshadowed by its cousin, X Wing, but I still think it has a worthy place in the wargaming scene. As a Warhammer AoS Player, I think the whole idea of big fleet battles is a really appealing, welcome change and open to a lot of tactical depth. So far I've only bought the Core Set, but I'm going to my local shop tomorrow to pick up two more ships. Suffice to say, I'm rather hooked.
Armada will cost you more than X-Wing. Which makes sense, ships are physically bigger. The gameplay is more... I'm not sure if deep but it requires a lot of forward planning, much more than X-Wing. So, a very good game, I think it is hurt a bit by looking similar to X-wing while being a lot different.
I actually really enjoy the aspect of planning and trying to second-guess your opponent. It makes for some great moments when your careful strategy finally pays off. I do agree though, it is very aesthetically similar to X-Wing while playing nothing like it.
I have always described Blood Bowl as the intersection between Dungeons & Dragons, Football, and Chess. If someone likes any 2 of those, this would be good for them.
Thanks for the video, my little brother is into Warhammer question what to start with, but he is a football fan, so he might have to pick up blood bowl starter
To add a perspective that rather proves your point.
Like you I got into the hobby thanks to sci-fi, Space Crusade for me. I had 2nd and 4th Ed 40k, but fell out of the hobby for over a decade.
My gaming interests tends to sci-fi, but my reading for fantasy.
I'm a huge sports fan, most sports, but my sport of choice is rugby (only stopped playing when my eldest was born 3 years ago, aside from one game 6 months back.
Bloodbowl has worked perfectly as a gateway game for me. The sports hook, the fantasy hook, it's exactly what I needed to get me interested, at a point in my life I was looking for something to replace my rugby playing. I've entered a league starting in a couple of weeks, and played 3 "friendly" games so far
Off the back of that I've not only bought an Amazon BB team, but I also bought the frostgrave rules and a few minis, and I'm looking to get into that, malifaux, necromunda and maybe Guildball. My taste is skirmish, ideally with a campaign angle (narrative style games)
This isn't everyone's idea of a gateway game, as you rightly say, but for some of us it is perfect
And that for me is the point of GWs specialist games, something they forgot when they sacked them off. These small scale games are what bring people into the hobby. And even at a small scale it's not cheap. With the box, Death Zone, paints (lots) and accessories I've probably sunk pushing £150 into GW, plus money elsewhere
Specialist games are what GW needs if it hopes to grow its player base. I'm already spreading myself too thin game system wise, and yet I'm still eyeing up AoS as something else that interests me. (Surprisingly I find myself bored by the direction 40k has gone)
Blood Bowl was my gateway game for sure. Better watch out for my Skaven Ravens :p
I just got into Blood Bowl.
It's amazing and I look at 40k like, "eh"
Got into bloodbowl after Warhammer and Necromunda. Never been into sports really. Edge case and proud.
Adam, would you consider Necromunda a gateway game? I'm still waiting for that to come back.
I think he made a video where he talked about it, cant remember which one tho :/
Its hard to get into a game that's no longer sold.
I began wargaming in about... 2002 (Warhammer 40K). Blood Bowl always seemed stupid to me because if you are playing orcs or vampires or elves, it should be an army, amirite?
A while ago a friend from the circle of friends with whom I play games (whether via internet or on the table) bought Blood Bowl 2 and got the others into it, too. They planned a small tournament and I had to join to not get excluded for the time.
My first team was orcs and I played without much joy until one of my black orcs stumbled and broke his neck. Then I got really salty. At that time I did not know about journeymen so I replaced the dead black orc with a goblin. And the goblin... was fun. Suddenly I realised how deep, tactical and fun Blood Bowl could be.
Currently, I am painting the human team from the starter box.
I love the double sided board of the new edition, i just wish i got a dwarf/skaven pitch when i had the chance, lolz. Rock on!
It's only temporarily out of stock.. it will be available again (you can click the email notification to get alerted when it's back in stock). www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Blood-Bowl-Skaven-and-Dwarf-Pitch
The winter pitch was a holiday issue though.
Thank you for posting this.
X-wing is good Gateway game in my opinion.
I've been enjoying it, even had a few games with my dad and some friends BUUUUT...that old issue came up. People i know don't like learning the rules, even more so when video games are pretty much instantly there and easy to play. Kinda sucks but hey, i'll keep trying to get them into it
What are you opinions on WQ: Silver Tower? I tired to see if you had a video on it, but I didn't see one.
Greetings,
I bought the boardgame "Blood Bowl" and I would like suggestion of TEAMS to buy.
I was thinking to buy only 2 teams from this list:
- Blood Bowl: Chaos Chosen Team
- Blood Bowl: Dark Elf Team
- Blood Bowl: Dwarf Team
- Blood Bowl: Skaven Team
What team do you suggest ?
Thanks.
Game looks cool. Might have to check this out. Thanks dude!
It's a lot of fun, I think. Thanks for watching!
Hats off, man. Keep the great show going.
You seem to forget one thing that make people addict to Blood Bowl: FUN (and humour), which other GW games lack. Blood Bowl coaches basically doesn't like to make WAR, they prefer to have FUN. That's basically what differentiate us.
For total newbies into wargamming do you think the rule system is to complex? For introducing a new player how streamlined would you go?
This was a good gateway game for me, just not in the way you explained- I already loved tabletop gaming and now I’m in love with sports lol
Blood Bowl is game that has become more and more popular at LGS nearest to me. So I would say that it's good gateway game and lot easier to find than Guild Ball that's also fantasy american football game.
Great video, Uncle Atom!
~ Wolf-brother Methos
The first blood bowl game was a gateway game for me to introduce me to miniature wargaming. Now i'm playing wh40k, whfb/aos and im thinking of getting into Malifaux.
The fun thing is that i HATE sports, i really hate it with all my heart, but i found Blood bowl to be really fun but it was mostly because of the miniatures. I would love to play Space hulk, i really dont understand why they wont remake the game because the demand seems to be pretty high.
Hey Atom! Great video, as always! I'm a big fan of your content :)
The reason i think that Blood Bowl was a good gateway game was because it was cheap! I just needed my standard vampire team, which costed like 25 euro if i remember correctly, but now aos kind of fill that void of "cheap" gateway game.
I think bloodbowl works for a lot of us non-sports-fans because it is a Parody of football, not just using it as a system.
Also malifaux is awesome.
I reckon sports bars should sell these boxes
I dont find wargaming interesting, yet. I do like watching it but i dont see myself playing it at the moment. I want to focus on collecting, painting and terrain building.
Hey, so, new here, love your vids :D
I'm trying to get into tabletop gaming, Age of Sigmar specifically. Loved Warhammer since the Warhammer MMO (Age of Reckoning) and way back when I was a kid seeing a few guys playing it at some game store I played a smash bros tourney at.
I recently bought the starting kit for the Ironjawz, but once I'm done painting, and maybe add a few more pieces to the mix, how do I go about finding a group to play with? I've searched online, and maybe I just don't know where to look, but I cant find a good hub or forum.
Also... What's the best way to get accustomed to the rule-set? They seem overly complicated (in a cool way, but still a barrier for a newbie) Normally I'd get two players worth, and play vs myself to understand, and to tweak my forces (coming from a Pokemon TCG standpoint, but in that regard, it's much easier to make 2 players worth)
I'd check at local gaming stores if you can, there's usually either people who play there or the owner or employees know people who are playing. Thanks for watching!
Blitz Bowl is a faster game... maybe even a more accessible fantasy football game for newcomers. We are getting blood bowl teams and splitting the 12 miniatures into two blitz bowl teams of 6 minis per team.
What's people's thoughts one using third party figures? I've got some third party lizardmen because they look really good and I've never converted anything before so It was easier. I don't want to wait around for gw to release some, just wanted to jump into the game.
that all depends on the league you are in. The one I play in has no qualms with 3rd party figs (or even unpainted ones), and I've seen some that look rather amazing, and as far as me personally, as long as the figs look nice it shouldn't matter
unlike other miniature games, in blood bowl you can't win by just killing the opponent's models. you actually have to score points.
I like blood bowl exactly because it is not pure fantasy. It has a foot in reality, it's humoristic, uses some codes and funny references of our present time. And I really don't care about american football (I am French...actually one of the biggest community of blood bowl gamers is in France, a country which has absolutely no link with american football). I used to play warhammer and blood bowl when I was teenager, and now, 20 years later, I am back in blood bowl, but I know I will never go further in the hobby. I guess all games have different publics.
I started to watch football because of blood bowl lol
I've been warned about gateway drugs before. Is a gateway game also a slippery slope? :-)
For me it was Heroquest, Space Crusade and a little later Battle Masters!
I just want a board game like the old xbox game deathrow
Can you do a video on what glazes are on how to use them? :)
Love the drink Wisconsibly shirt!
I've discovered a new drinking game. You watch three videos of Tabletop Minions, scroll down into the comment section and find Atom's replies to comments, every time you see him end a reply with "Thanks for watching." Take a shot.
P.S. Have fun with the alcohol poisoning.
+Braxton Wilson That's how I roll. Thanks for watching!
IMO, BB is a slow game to play, especially by today's standards. How well of a gateway this is depends on how much the person can handle the slowness
40K became too much to keep up with. Blood bowl took over and I don't think I can ever fully look back
I had bloodbowl (and warhammer) in the 90s but never had anyone to play against. Bloodbowl was always accessable and fun in the 4 times i actually played it.
I'd love to buy it again but fear it will be money wasted with no one really in my area who plays it.
Time to bring Jordell Freshbreeze out of retirement?
Great Review! normally i was not into american football, but this product caught some of my attention, with your review i now want to buy it and give it a test drive with my wife to get her into wargaming, right now i only paint but if with this we can share a hobby for now and then it would be awesome, keep the good work :)
So you didn't see the Aliens team Kickstarter then...?
Also Blood Bowl only exists as the product of a job interview for GW that Jervis Johnson produced to get the job. Rather impressive I feel 😀🏈🧚♀️🤷🏻♂️
Have you ever considered doing voiceover/audiobook work? You have such a buttery smooth voice. I am a 30 year old man and I want you to read me stories, haha.
GW should do BB 40K. Instant hit guaranteed. Also, they should really re-think how they make the models for it. There are plenty of companies now that have been making BB miniatures and they're all much better than GW's products. I have around 14 BB teams and only 1 of them is made with GW models (still not their BB models, I've customized regular WFB minis).
Blood Bowl is allround just a much better game than Warhammer, but took me some time to realize it
Heroclix is also a good gateway
these videos are crack for wargamers
I'm hoping that's a good thing. Thanks for watching!
I play basketball and am about to go into college to play but I hate watching the NBA, watching the sport I play never was fun to me. Games though, hooooo, I could watch and wish I could play all day
I personally don't find Blood bowl interesting because of it's sports theme and I don't care for sports at all but I'm glad that there are people out there that enjoy it
+1
SopiChan I find the sports theme refreshing and fun
I find sports incredibly dull yet Blood Bowl is highly enjoyable to me. Especially the presentation of the Blood Bowl 2 video game is amazing!
I find American pseudoFootball dull and boring, but I enjoy so much Blood Bowl for Its lore and randomness.
I actually think that it's kinda funny how much GW has gotten wrong when it comes to American Football. While I know Soccer is played on a pitch, football is played on a field. Players who aren't current in the football game don't go to a dugout (that's baseball), that stand on the sidelines.
not a pigskin football, a Rhinox hide football
I really have to disagree on this one. Regardless of the fantasy and sports angle, there's nothing about Warhammer in Blood Bowl except for the fantasy races.
You talked about how the teams were already colored. This would cause someone new to most likely not even try to paint their team. And, you mentioned trying to paint Orc armor without and leaving the sprue green color for their skin... that'd be tough without some kind of primer to get the paint to stick. The models are are very slick, and painting or washing just won't work well without a primer base. And, if you only want to paint the armor, the masking process would be so difficult that it'd probably turn someone off to the game immediately.
I honestly haven't played Space Hulk, but from what little I've seen, it has much more of a 40K feel to it that could actually be a gateway into the 40K lore. Silver Tower is a great example from the fantasy side. Rules may be slightly changed, but there's enough that's the same that it could open up someone to the idea of wanting their own 40K figures.
Blood Bowl, while a good game, has figures that are nothing like anything else in the Fantasy Line and can't be used in AoS games.
Is Blood Bowl something you could bring to a friend's house on a board game day and enjoy with others (even though it's not really a board game)? Yeah, sure. Is it something that will give anyone (even sports and fantasy fans) a reason to want to get into AoS and 40K? I really don't think so.
Actually, an Escalation League seems like a much better way to get someone started in AoS or 40K than Blood Bowl. My store is currently running where you buy a character from a blister pack (or its equivalent... so that everyone is on more-or-less even ground... so like no Monstrous Creatures). We have two weeks to paint the single model with painting lessons going on at the store for free. And, then we start the league with just the one model. Points or units will go up as the league continues, but nothing has been announced yet.
Do you think a 9 year old boy who absolutely loves NFL football could get into this?
Actually, you might want to look for a similar game by the same company called Blitz Bowl. It’s a bit smaller and easier. However, it’s only sold at Barnes & Nobles for some reason. Good luck, and thanks for watching!
i'm not into sports at all. in fact, i actually hate football in particular. but blood bowl (and blitz bowl) is awesome fun.
i started with space crusade
do u play ? what team? is this game out dated??
Hands down space hulk got me into Warhammer. 🦾