Redman on MC Hammer Stepping to Him Over Diss: He Doesn't Mess Around
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2016
- Social media has undeniably changed music in general, including how rappers send out disses, which Redman shared his thoughts on during a recent interview with VladTV. The veteran rapper explained that back in the day there were many steps involved in dropping a diss track, whereas today, rappers can upload their disses immediately. He also added that he likes that rappers don't have to meet in person to squash beef, possibly diminishing violent acts from happening.
Speaking more about rap beef, Redman shared a story about the time MC Hammer confronted him at the taping of the last Yo! MTV Raps episode over his diss on his debut album. Redman pointed out that MC Hammer is very serious about beef, adding that he knew the "2 Legit 2 Quit" rapper wasn't messing around when he stepped to him at the show.
Check out more of what he had to say about the situation in the above clip. 
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I watch this whole interview every 3 months.
The second Redman says, “Look…That god damned MC Hammer. VERY SERIOUS ABOUT BEEF!” I start smiling until the video is over.
One more month until Maclethal wakes from his slumber to watch the Redman interview
This is the most random comment by you ever.
mc hammer beefing shoulda been a chappell show skit
Dave would've left his show A LOT sooner
That could've been epic.
Damn too true
majikstranger i dont think dave would want that kind of problems.
Dancin on his enemies. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hammer was a real OG but chose keep his music positive for the youth, is a real dude.
Not OG nor even a g but that nigga... Yeah kill me with passing out titles especially that one. well yall don't kill me but y'all tickle me ..niggas they're 20's talking og ain't earn the g yet in hell I know in there 40s that don't much think earn the oG yet.
. But I know you square bossie was rapping when said song that you og at 25 In that song ain't here to debate it.
@@texking3000 that whole comment was unintelligible.
@@SuperWilliamholmes Yup, I had trouble with that too!!!
@@SuperWilliamholmes 🤔 intelligible already
I understood it perfectly.
Hammer isn’t a G, let alone an OG..
You must be a young head if you think Hammer was ever any of that.
He won’t argue too hard with OP about it though because he’s clearly a twenty something square.
Hammer was also a square.
I’m a square too though by the way.
2 Legit 2 Quit
"Lemme tell you something, you're young" gets me every time. 🤣🤣
Bro I'm just seeing this 😂😂😂
That’s when you know a Nigga ain’t playing witcha
It's funny. I grew up in the Bay Area and my parents didn't want to buy me ganster rap tapes... Bought me a MC Hammer cd. They had no idea he was the real Gangster LOL.
Yeah he was a locland loc
@@dannyboydeluxfromthebigitybay What the fuck is a locland loc? 😆
@@dogsandyoga1743 LOL
@@dogsandyoga1743 dude just made that up
@@dogsandyoga1743 (L)Oakland Loc
For the record, I take back everything I said about MC Hammer's pants.
zd4w9 lol word
Lmao
zd4w9 most definitely 😂💀
zd4w9 lol
Lol
So MC hammer was serious when he said you can’t touch this 😆
Dead ass
According to Redman 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
He most definitely was and still is
🤣🤣🤣😅
I remember Big Boi from Outkast talking about MC Hammer on some MTV show one time. Somebody was talking trash about MC Hammer, and Big Boi just cut in and said "Ok. Mess with Hammer. Run up on Hammer if you want to" and the way Andre3000 smiled let me know Hammer wasn't nobody to fuck with lol
Link?
@@GamerGee I remember that he said, "hammer will whoop yo ass" lol
I remember this so vividly LOL 😂. Classic moment.
Redman ain't lying Hammer from East Oakland on High Street and I used to people you keep thinking Hammer is a punk Hammer will fuck you up he didn't play
+W-3-I-R-D-0 HAHA!
Hammer is for real. Hammer was almost of death row records. I remember buying a death row tape back in the day and in the liner it said coming albums...Hammer!! Multiple old school rappers will tell you the same...hammer ain't no punk.
east oakland we got mcs with hammers gettn doen to mc hammer
+RobD8870 he was on death row
+James Jamaica yeah he did that Pumps and Bump joint
"Please Hammer Don't Hurt E'm" makes so much sense to me now.
Lol
MasterOfMyUniverse Real Talk. LOL
Ya they were dead ass serious.. 😂
Hah! You too eh
On GOD...
I lost it when Red said "That goddamn MC Hammer...Ya'll joke about hammer No No No No! "
Outkast said in a interview" hammer will whoop yo azz"
What interview is it?
I mean he is from Oakland...
Alot of rapper's have said this lol
I seen that interview. Big boi and Dre both said Hammer does not play.
Look up outkast talks about Mc Hammer on youtube.
I remember an old Outkast interview where Andre 3000 said and I quote, "Hammer will beat yo ass..."
lol me too
lol me too
I remember that .. Big Boi said it tho .. 👍🏽
+Frank Banks you right it was big boi
Yeah I remember that too!
That MC hammer shit sounds like it belongs on Dave Chappelle on a Charlie Murphy story
OR like the prince b ball skit haahha
oh my god, that would be hilarious
@coltonphillips725 racist fuck, as if black people are the only ones with ghettos and hard lifes lol
@@super117knight he didn't alsay that fool. He say they don't understand the 'hood.
Hammers from Oakland CA
" That Goddamn M.C. Hammer... VERY serious about beef.." that and his expression almost made me piss myself laughing.
Maurice Jackson Bruh I've played that part at 2:12 several times. Got my sides hurting
Lol me too red is funny as hell
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas
The 6:04 mark had me hurtin the way he suddenly recalled that he too dissed Hammer. Lol
@@youvids9820 dude had me dying when he kept sayin MTV Cribs! Lol
"EVERYONE ROLLS! The GURLS THA WOMEN, EVERYONE!" 🤣😂😁😁😂
Look at how Hammer DANCED. Why in the hell would you NOT think that he could throw some hands???
Probably some kind of Grandmaster 🥋
Facts great point
Hell yeah
Facts!!!!!!😂😂😂
Hammer was also a helluva athlete. He was a big time baseball prospect at one time.
This message by Redman was approved and liked by MC Hammer!!!
Real respect real both are real :) .
Damn! Where's The Chappelle Show when you need it? As Redman was telling the story about Hammer @ 2:12 & 6:05 , I could imagine Dave pretending to be Hammer like he did with Prince and Rick James. This could've been a "Redman's True Hollywood Stories" lol!
So so true!!!!
I like that idea
Priceless!!
⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰⚰ word UUUUUUUP DOOOOOOEEE
awesome idea
This is one of the reasons why Redman will always be my favorite rapper. He’s a very underrated lyricist.
Hell yes
He's so good people considered
Him the best member from wu tang
Def squad
@@djwalruss4897 he wasn’t a part of WU, they just rocked with bro
@@djwalruss4897wtf are you talking about lmao
First name propped by Eminem "Reggie, Jay Z, Tupac and Biggie"
When Ice Cube penned that open letter to Hammer in the Source basically apologizing to Hammer after the True To the Game video told me all I had to know about Hammer
That's because Hammer confronted Ice Cube in a restaurant in LA and had Cube stuttering and nearly pissing himself after that video was made.
@@michaelnewton1332 proof???
@@ThugNinja I've actually heard about this from other sources too! I mean Ice Cube ain't no punk but definitely ain't what he portrays himself to be in his music, FAR from it!
@@truthhurts3305 Ice Cube was a square, never in trouble with the law. EAZY E was the damn criminal!
Ice Cube is a business man
The greatest MTV cribs episode ever..redman.
fix that damn door bell first.
I knew he was real af when I seen the dreamcast I was like damn Redman lives like my cousin lol
😂😂 that was funny they tried to make him lie an rent a house or summat but redman was like Na look at this 😂😂
1000%
@@jamesmacroll9838 That's the only episode of that series I can recall 😂 At least he kept it real. He wasn't renting cars and mansions, pretending like they're his own.
Big respect for Redman and listening to him give MC Hammer that much props, is amazing. Great interview and great seeing RM in good health. Thanks for such great music! 🎼✌🏼
I will always remember when Arsenio said he was talking to Snoop Dogg once and he asked "Of all the artists on Death Row, who is the most gangster of them?" Snoop replied without hesitation, "Mc Hammer."
Red is one of the greatest storytellers I've ever heard lmao
You don't have to be great when you really went through it. The story tells itself. Red been through about 3 generations of rap and been an elite wordsmith in every one of em lol.
*MC Hammer:* _"Let me tell you something...you're young... but I dont allow nobody to talk about my mama"_
*Redman:* _"YESSS SIR!!"_
Im dying over here!!!😂😂😂😂
No Limit Soldier HILARIOUS
I WONDER what happened when BIGGIE went out there.
He got shot
Look at the E-40 interview about Biggie
No Limit Soldier you were like, outside laughing my crazy azz off. That damned Hammer could stomp azz for as long as he could dance.
You gotta love Redman, he's so damn funny and keeps it real
Lol
"Yes, sir" -mc hammer
"Yes sir dean cain sir" -how high
😂😂😂it reminded me
I know the bitch that make these rugs😭😭😭
Comedy
ROTFLMAO!!! that was my movie!!
That's hilarious!!!
🤣🤣😂😂😂
I could hear Redman speak all day lol! Always real as hell. Still on top of the rappin game in my book!!!!!
Word
Redman is one true real dude for real!!! He didn't sell his soul & he just real
Facta
@DC Williams pussy
There is just real people out there who don't sell out no matter what.
He is on this show what makes you say that is he
@DC Williams he is a pioneer you idiot wtf
MC Serch almost got shot by one of Hammer's people. Yes Hammer was no joke. People tend to think just because one does not make street music that they ain't from the ghetto.
Facts
Asa Jones I am a brother from a small town. I always respected the people from the ghetto that showed they are from the hood only when necessary.
Hammer and his boys ran up on 3rd Bass at City Nights night club. In the San Francisco Bay Area back in the day they were shook!
sugar hill gang sold coke on the side so yeah i believe it
People forget that Hammer is from East Oakland.
The 90’s was absolutely crazy for the rap industry. It was truly a war between East Coast West Coast. Much respect to Redman!
It wasn’t no damn war that’s what the media want you to believe
Nope the media portrait it was a war
@Dan Schumacher wrong. It was war between east and west. You don't know anything
@@RHEC1776 It was more LA vs New York, mc hammer really wasn’t involved in any of that.
@@805fillmoreall of california vrs new yor.
MC Hammer... Perfect example of what happens when someone is caught between entertaining the Americano and staying true to yourself and the values that you've always stood on.
I remember watching an interview with Big Boy from Outkast years ago and he said don't fuk around with Hammer. Hammer will beat your ass. Me and my brother fell out laughing when we heard that. I guess Big Boy wasn't lying.
Donovin Freeman "Run up on Hammer if you want to!"
Lol yep. Andre 3000 said hammer will knock your ass out
I was about to quote that line lol
Outkast said it on MTV back in '01 that "niggas talk all that shit about Hammer, but run up on him. Hammer will beat yo muthafuckin ass! Hammer will beat yo ass!" It was a known fact that Hammer would take it there if need be, and he did approach Cube over the 'Be true to the Game' diss. He approached everyone who dissed him.
yea i remember dat good
Whoa. I didn't know Hammer stepped to Cube over the diss.
correct
+BeeleeDatPleighboi 100 Vlad, is that you? Stop with the fake shit about Cube. Ain't no 'everybody' stepping to Cube
+BeeleeDatPleighboi 100 true story...got his ass beat twice by above the law..knocked out by kams homie...king sun was gonna beat his ass for stealing Wicked n hammer stepped to him
Dont play bout my momma....."YES SIIIIRR!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got a lot of respect for Red man it takes a true man to walk away from beef and live another day there's a lot dead brothas tryna keep it 💯
Yup. When keepin it real goes wrong.
Facts
MC Hammer is from Oakland, that's all folks need to know. Folks from Oakland back in the 80's and 90's did not play around for nothin'. Redman was too funny tellin' this story though.
GMP997 997GMP BIG Facts
Very true, people have no clue. California PERIOD!
GMP997 997GMP Oakland never scared.
Seapearl's Journey lol I wouldn’t say all of California
@@JM-nl9ow look at memphis and chicago
So he wasn't joking when he said "Can't Touch This"
Josh Ben-Dan 😄
He said " i told u homeboy, u cant touch this"!!! 😄
Lmao you a fool
😂😂😂😂
@mark daniels Im from the south. Spent 3 years in NYC. People say things everyday in NYC that would get them shot in the south.
I only went crazy on homeless crazies...they knew what they were doing.
yep. and when he said "break it down", he was telling his boys to kick in some chumps front door
Man this interview is legendary! This might be my 3rd time watching it. MC Hammer got a lot of respect. Love the Bay
He didnt interrupt redman one time
Redman was in the zone.
This is like Charley Murphy’s Hollywood Stories... love it!
😂😂Cocaine is a helluva drug🤣
@@SixFoenem The 90's was one helluva decade.
Precisely lol
F Yo couch Redman
"Please Hammer...don't hurt em" This explains that album title. Hard af.
That album is a Classic. Before he went Pop/mainstream.
"Turn This Mutha Out" is that Tuuuuune! ;)
I was in love with Hammer. No matter what hammer was a all around star. Nothing you can say
And one of the illest niggas in Oakland...E40 will tell you that
@@MannyTwice Hammer had Oakland on lock in the late 80s fasho
I SWEAR!!!!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Plus Hammer’s wife been with him even *before* his fame. Massive respect!
“That Goddamn Mc Hammer...Serious about beef!” The way he said it had me ☠️🤣
Well Hammer was signed to Deathrow and even though there's plenty of stories on how Suge and his goons used to put hands on various artists at deathrow, you never heard anything about Hammer getting touched, no pun intended.
Hammer was the REAL leader of Deathrow. Suge was a figurehead.
Oakland don't breed no punks.
+BeeleeDatPleighboi 100 40 is from Vallejo but whatever
shittythegrouch Shout out to Hillside and the Flats and the Crest!
Suge didn't mess with Hammer because he was once Hammer's bodyguard and they were friends.
I absolutely LOVE the way hr spoke on MC Hammer!!!!
Let me say something(s): I'm from New York, I'm a 70's baby, so I been listening to Rap music since pretty much day one, and I was in love with Rap Music in 1988, so I remember when Hammer first came out, and despite many artist who downplayed/dissed his music, I enjoyed his first two albums, and I appreciate what he did for the culture, and Red couldn't have said it better!!! I never really fed into the East verse West competitiveness that existed even since 1988, because I looked at Rap music as one big family, and family is many of times exists in more than one area of the country, and we all supposed to respect and support each other, and I always loved West Coast artist..
WORD!
Yo, I'm currently on a "things I wasn't allowed to enjoy as kid" phase what's a good source or starting point for the EvW Coast story. This whole time I've been under the impression 2Pac and Biggie kicked that shit off.
True
Im in tears right now 😂 . I love Redman.
Hammer stepping to Redman - One of the best rap stories ever, Redmans delivery is priceless. This ranks right up there with Fat Joe's "Tales From The Dark Side" story about Roy Jones getting at him. THAT one is a classic! But this one by redman is right up there!
💯💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯🎯
I'm glad to see a real/old school rapper give Hammer his prop's. I be telling people that it was Hammer that was the one that made rap take a giant leap. He opened up ppl outside of the hip-hop culture and opened many doors for hip-hop.
💯💯 nobody wants to admit that though because its not lyrical spiritual bars
I hear you Shane and hammer did make a giant leap. But it was RUN-DMC who open the rest of the world to rap music. What Hammer did is show the rest of the world that rappers can entertain!! Hammers dancing and showmanship was huge!! But as far as rap culture getting exposure to mainstream America? It was Run-DMC that did that.
David Herring I love Run-DMC, but I don't think they changed the game like Hammer. Run-DMC came out in circa 83, Hammer 88. Run-DMC and Beastie Boys together didn't open doors like him. Commercials, sponsorship, headlining tours, packing stadiums around the world.
Shane Guyton wrong if theirs no Run Dmc their is no lane for hammer run dmc did it first with Walk this way with areosmith and movies
Irish Jester Very true. Also LL took that baton from Run DMC and became raps first platinum solo artist.
Redman, you are one of the greatest on the mic. The Bay loves you. Thank you for sharing his story.
@Pablo Escobar u are but I didn't know u had bars like that P Esco
@@TannreDC if you don't like Redman then something wrong...
@@beastmaster415 why would I be on a red video if I dont fuck with red lol
Don't let the dancing and commercial hip hop fool you. Hammer wasn't the one to fuck with.
The fact that MC Hammer got respect from Ice T and Redman should be a huge red flag that he is gangster AF.
The 90's were real.. "We had beef, we handled our beef, and we didn't go tell everyone about it". Nowadays cats tell everyone about beefs that they don't even really have smh
That shit was real because old niggas be on the internet now the only reason was because it was no internet if it was internet back then same shit would have happen foh
@@_meangreenjersey973 lol you don't 100% know! That's your opinion.
Did you work for a butcher shop?
Most beef now is purely for the mic and to make ££££
Beef back then was actual beef
False af. All tupac did was talk about beef lol
" . . . MC Hammer was there -- that nigga approached me: he was like, 'Red, I'ma tell you somethin: you young, but I don't allow nobody to talk about my mama -- you understand me?' I said, 'Yes, sir'" . . . BEST COMMENT 6:37
Who would of thought that MC Hammer was about that Life 🤷♂️
Hammer from OAKLAND CALIFORNIA DON'T TRIP
The man had the rep and muscle in the street. Well known HAMMER bout that
@Michelle Rodriquez he a real goon in them streets
Everybody from the Bay Area 🤷♀️
Mc hammer took care of a lot of people that’s why ❤
"Diss me and I am going to come see you jack!"- Pimp C
When he say this ?
@@california650 on a live radio broadcast with a radio station out of Atlanta. It's a excerpt on the pimpilation album.
RIP
That man pimp chad Trill nigga 4life💯
"pull up ya skirt and expose your clitoris" - Pimp C
Hammer, don't hurt 'em!
lmao
he soft and wet.....lol
LMAO Classic
definitely can't touch this
shit, you got to pray just to make it today
Saw Red & Meth in 1999 in Knoxville TN.
My Dad was one of his dancers ... they met in the Navy ...
this funny as hell i can listen to Redman stories all day lol
Hammer...No, no, no,no! 😂💀
I was always suspicious of the way MC Hammer moved. The footwork... Go watch the can't touch this video, then imagine fighting that 😂
Good point,his stamina was on point.
Lol
Im on the floor
Hahahaha comment of the day deserves a lot more love.
Lmfaoooooo true story!!!
Redman got muscles from lifting so many blunts😂😂😂😂
MC Hammer has the right to defend those pants. He opened the door for rappers to make a lot more money.
Dingle Barry Sure But also have people learn from his mistakes
Can't touch this...
So it's all in the wardrobe and not the luck of timing? Hammer is a one hit wonder in my books
@@r.edward5701 A one-hit wonder with a dozen plus hits?
@@enlightenedidiot9552 one hit wonder in my books..fuck I hate repeating myself
2:12 Redman kept it 1000 that's why i respect him as a mc
Hammer was so big, he even made a cameo appearance in Last Action Hero.
As over the top as that movie is, its a damn classic!
Nothing but LOVE for my State ( NJ) and My mans REDMAN.
Kudos to Redman for keeping it real. Hammer was the type of Rapper who didn't play around. I heard alot of his songs where he dissed back at Rappers that try to disrespect. Hammer even said in one of his songs "We can get it on don't let the dance steps fool ya cause if I catch you slipping I'ma have to do ya" I was like "wow this dude ain't playing" lol
People need to remember, Hammer had the respect of Death Row, Suge Knight, Eazy-E, 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Tha Dogg Pound, he wouldn't have their respect if he was soft lol
I’m loving this. 😂 And loving how he gives MC Hammer his props. 😎
I keep hearing this even years later. Hammer seems like such a calm gentleman. I can't imagine him being aggressive lol
That's East Oakland og stuff right there
Lmao Redman killed me when he got to talking about Hammer lmao. 😃
"You gonna talk about my dancin pants?! I'm a see you!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
Sound like a Dave Chappelle skit
contactkeithstack 💀
Lmao
I heard about Hammer...he rolled Deep. You literally Can’t Touch That.
All the gangsta rap, street dudes in the game all respect Hammer for real. My man wasn’t playing NO games !
Hammer was the only Gangster rapper that was packaged as a bamna, but was a Goon the whole time. That's the real definition of being low-key with shit.
I ain't even know dame🤦🏾♀️
It's mandatory for Bay Niggaz to have that MC Hammer movie.
Lol and the cartoon.
he will turn that mutha out
teko
Shayne Douglass Shawty!!!! Big bro where ya been?
+BlackJohnnyCage chillin tryin to maintain
One of the realest to this day and still one of my favs
Even a Mc Hammer was aggressiv,
The 90's...
What a time to live
Redman seems to have no problem steppin to cats or being stepped to. Dude is especially credible in admitting to apologizing when he was shook.
Real nigga
@@charlesscott27 and he was in his city...
This is the way
Survival is about being real not being stupid and big headed and that's what Redman is he's a real dude notice I didn't say real he a real N word because that ain't nothing to be proud of.
Facts
RedMan...you have to keep telling that hammer story.... " I know you young but I don't allow nobody to talk about my Momma"...Yes Sir...all of me.... I'm crying with joy laughing..
Aquarius Blu I died laughing at the part, lmao
same ....so great
I remember Outcast talking how gangsta Hammer was.
I remember E40 talking about he had niggas running out the park in Oakland when he came through
@@MannyTwice damn even E40,gangster himself, recognized the real
Redman: I never had any Beefs... *2 Seconds Later* You never heard about my Beefs, I got my brother & the hammers and we seen em ourselves!! *2 seconds later* I'm a smoker, & smoker's don't ever have beefs! 😂😂😂😂
😅😅😅
Big respect for Redman coming with the truth and talking about Hammer in this light.
I would love to see MC Hammer’s reaction to this interview
Red man should been in comedy he is so funny to me
Have you see How High With Method Man and Redman.
@ Spiffy I'm 57.
@ Spiffy it's all good I will check it out. ✌️
@@keithmoran5695 They was like the more hood gangsta version of the Wayan brothers lol.
"You know the routine." its time 4 sum aksion. i fucking loved mid 90's new york rap scene.
This shit reminds me of Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories
I was thinking the same thing haha
hell yeah lmao
LMAO 😂
R.I.P
Hell yea 😂😂
"oh you gonna talk about my dancing pants... I'll see you!" 😂😂😂
That was an understatement . They definitely took it seriously. Two of the biggest rap stars in the world. Dead! It almost started a Civil War. East coast vs West coast . That was some real shit.
This is by far the funniest and most realest interview ever.. I've watched it to many times...lol
Hammer still that guy in Oakland! He still got the dancin but will still put them hands on somebody
Holy shit
They also still respect him because of all the money he put in for them
He ain't got to put his hands on anybody though...... He'll get 50 goons to do it.
that braid sticking out is low-key fuckin wit me😁😁
lol
gay ass
is that u red man
bra you got me over here in tears... I was thinkin WTF is that lol
mannnn lol
The 90’s was the greatest era of all time, music, fashion, food, film, the greatest, all just before the internet took over everything
"The 90s era was more aggressive" Duh!
I love Redman one of my favorite rappers. He is telling the truth about 90s hip hop beefs I miss the 90s.
Yall have to realize that hammer employed allllottt of people from his hood and you do not fuck with the man who allows me to eat.
Yeah, a bunch of freeloaders.
america in itself is a free loading country
fine then
Hammer hired REAL street dudes he grew up with. Despite his success, he was no uppity nigga.
Hammer was that dude!
Luv listening to 90 era stories shit was real back then GREATEST era of hip hop
I love red, the dude is unique and underrated in my opinion.
Redman is your favorite rapper's favorite rapper...
He's Eminem's favourite rapper
@Millennial Smark yes that's absolutely right, underrated means not given enough credit. Redman is great, put on by Erick Sermon who's his cousin Red is also Eminem's fave MC! And indeed underrated. In my opinion the complete opposite, obviously overrated, is Tupac!, and hugely so it amazes me!
🧱 🏙️ red in the hall of Fame
DAMN RIGHT ...real beef was never televised.. the 90's was when it was real. This social media age dont know anything about the hustle.
Exactly, beef now is talking shit on social media
Ah yeah fake like 50 and Ja.
Preach!!!!
Keyboard gangsters and heavy security bc they afraid of when the shit hits the fan