@@obiwankenobi687 no I meant other scenes in heaven sent I do think it’s definitely top few episodes for me if not my favourite. As a child I hated it but like tbh it’s one I think I’ve matured on. I think it’s the most mature episode of Doctor Who, best directed, best performed and best written. Can’t really fault it, it’s amazing just on a technical level.
With the way Peter is in the 50th it feels like the 12th Doctor is hanging over War, 10 and 11 because their plan for saving Gallifrey is the kind of plan only 12 could think of.
Peter Capaldi is absolutely one of the best Doctors of all time. Imagine being obsessed with this show all your life and then you get to play the lead role! I’ve met him before, hes a very kind man. A true legend.
Always thought The Shepherd's Boy motif sounded like an evolution of the main refrain This Is Gallifrey combined with the middle bridge section of I Am The Doctor
Good chance that's exactly right, considering it was made specifically for the moment that 11 (I Am the Doctor) saves Gallifrey (This Is Gallifrey). It becoming 12's secondary theme was just a happy accident, being intended to foreshadow Gallifrey's return in Heaven Sent.
Holy what? Shepherds Boy was in Day of the Doctor first? That's insane, given how much it's associated with the 12th Doctor and Heaven Sent. Also, Day of the Doctor's soundtrack mostly consists of a "greatest hits of Murray Gold" with tracks from the previous 7 seasons making up most of it, I didn't even realize that it had any original music in it in the first place.
@case Looking at the soundtrack itself, sure, but a lot of them are just lost in the background or replaced entirely by reused tracks. "Slitheen" when the TARDIS is picked up by the helicopter, "The Time of Angels" when they're looking at the smashed paintings, "Majestic Tale of a Mad Man in a Box" in the opening credits, when the three Doctors come out of the painting, and when all the Doctors save Gallifrey. "A Sad Man in a Box" when the War Doctor regenerates, "The Leaf" for some reason when 10 leaves at the end, "The Wedding of River Song" in the Curator scene (the actual music for that scene "Song for Four" was used for the phone call between Clara and 11 in Deep Breath). "Dark and Endless Dalek Night" when the Time War is shown, "Words Win Wars" when the War Doctor blasts through the squad of Daleks with the TARDIS.
The scene when 12 is blowing up all the Cybermen in The Doctor Falls is one of the best scenes ever. Shepards Boy echoing Peter's outstanding performance is just the cherry on top
It's a song of resilience and hope. To hear it played in that heroic manner in The Giggle. It's beautiful. The Doctor has overcome insane odds and lived many lifetimes to keep humanity safe. Personally, I think its a hell of a song!
"There's this emperor, he asks the shepherd's boy, how many seconds in eternity, the shepherd's boy says, 'There's a mountain of pure diamond, it takes an hour climb it, and an hour to get around it, every hundred years, a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on the diamond mountain, and when the entire mountain is chiseled away, the first second of eternity will have passed'. You may think that's a hell of a long time, personally, I think that's a hell of a bird"
When capaldi left so did Doctor Who as it was known since the 60s. It was always supposed to be a family child friendly fairy tale space and time adventure with silly jokes, dumb jokes over the top theatrics and most importantly... Heart. It always had heart and feeling in its writing. Chibnal took that and butchered it and that really upset me as Jodie would have made an amazing doctor in the existing style, I think she would have been a perfect dynamic change from Capaldi's more tired and beaten doctor.
Yeah, it is sad no official digital version of it exists but I did find this fan made recreation of it. ruclips.net/video/3aykUeojNoY/видео.htmlsi=W_rVlzhSWNWSp-cq
Really well researched,, "the shepherds boy" is purely the 12th's theme, but it DOES appear as a motif in 'this time there's three of us' which is the war doctor/barn theme. This is the first instance of a doctors' theme being played without the respective doctor.... although he does appear in this episode.... well his eyebrows anyway! The way the theme is derived is as a motif of 'I am the doctor' which is Matt's theme, Matt's is in 7/8 time and features classical orchestral instrumentation similar to David's ("The Doctor Forever") 10th doctor's second theme. It's actually really interesting as to how the music is composed: (TLDR: Murray Gold is a genius) In the barn the motif reappears in 'This time there's three of us' but now it's in 4/4 time with a tempo and voice shift towards rock instruments instead of orchestral, and then the true 'Shepards boy' which is Peter's theme is then in 3/4 with a metal timbre twist. And then just to make it even more complex Murray Gold then reverts *back* to 4/4 and echos the strings again when played as part of "breaking the wall". It's really masterful use of time signatures and timbre to play motifs in so many different ways to convey different emotions. The 7/8 time for Matt really does emote an excited little puppy, the 4/4 a methodical and is a comfortable signature for the audience, the 3/4 then encapsulates Peter's 12th doctor journey slower, darker, one-foot-after-the-other, painful slog up towards gallifrey but this time after the wall it has strings now instead of guitar and with trumpets as triumph as well as a military bass drum, methodical and on flat ground, now very much a upbeat march of righteousness rather than the millions of years painful slog of the previous 3/4 acoustic. so in a long summary : David: ("Song for ten", "Doctor's theme" (first used in 9's run but continues until series 3/4 where it's overtaken by "The Doctor forever"), "The Doctor Forever (from series 3/4) and Vale Decem). Orchestral 4/4 stars very britpop esque (I mean literally had 'A song for ten' in the christmas invasion!) mainly choral influences towards the end (especially in the latter part of his run ) Sturdy, confident, comfortable. Matt: ("I am the doctor") 7/8 like a little puppy, choral to begin with, but soon takes on classical and amplified instruments, lacks the vocalisations of Davids' but towards the end of his series there's variations with the pond motifs and River-song's motifs occasionally intertwined towards the back end of his run. I ignore the christmas episodes for this analysis. War doctor + co : 4/4 version of Matt's theme, with some 2/4 quips but non-choral (except when David is there, notice?) moves more towards amplified instruments and lacks the complexity of Matt's version. I'd like to think Murray Gold looked forward to 12th's theme as he (well his eyebrows) are technically in the episode with this one. Interesting to note that military music tends to be in 4/4 or 2/4 so fits perfectly Peter's theme ("Shepards boy"): Based on the variation bridge of "I am the doctor" is in 3/4 time (think a waltz) and is very much in the rhythm of labour, think stepping up some stairs when you are really tired. The strumming of acoustified electric guitar really adds to this Sisyphean approach. The released track I argue could open in 6/8 time but then reverts to 3/4 but officially it's published in 3/4, and definately is about a minute into the published recording. I like to think the 6/8 mimics running with Clara, (run you clever boy?) and then the 3/4 the slower darker doctor alone. Flutes and woodwind come in just before the final keychange which highlights the 'triumph' of the doctor against the wall. Now after the showrunners left in 2017, so did Murray Gold, so the musical journey kind of ends here as the 13th doctors music was a mix of different versions kind of cut about. I cannot recall a motif specifically for Jodie's doctor which is a shame :( That being said he has returned so fingers crossed.... Interesting musical fact: Murray Gold wrote the Dalek theme with the welsh choir for 9's single series run, and because they got on so well then were incorporated from David's christmas invasion in 2005. This was also the first to include both brit-pop extra-diegetic music and 'real' orchestral music, before that the music was composed digitally for 9 except for the single female voice which is uncredited in the doctor's theme.
Thank you for this analysis. I never realized the callbacks and motifs at play. Murray Gold *is* an absolute genius. You’re pretty genius too for piecing this together!
@@DarkInception I used to listen to the soundtracks a lot when I studied music composition so it just fell into my ears at the right time to study it i think! :P
I personally think that Shepards boy is one of the most underrated tracks of Doctor who. It's emotional and it can capture the feeling of so many scenes so well. It's interesting to see that they've brought it back for the new episode recently!
Love that it debuted in the 50th, with three different incarnations, then during the Twelfth Doctor era on epic occasions, and a brief reprise in the 60th. 💥
It represents the Doctor's member ending perseverance for what's good and right. He knows he shouldn't kill the time lords, and does everything to save them. He fights through billions of years of torture to not lose Clara. He never gives up even with thousands of cybermen surrounding him. He lives onto a new body knowing it'll come with amazing and wonderful adventures.
It also plays a softer and darker subtle variation of the motif in Hell Bent in the track "A Duty of Care" with the Doctor and Clara in the Cloisters: ruclips.net/video/9nMWwYSCofI/видео.html
when the entire mountain is chiseled away the first second of eternity will pass- well over a billion years you might think thats a hell of a long time- 2 billion years personally i think thats a- AHHHHH
How is this show sooo good that you can post a video that clips mostly DECADE old scenes with a good score in it, and it gets 6,000 views! Murray Gold IS a genius, but still, wow Doctor Who is something
I think the video is just including it as the light motif that becomes Shepard's Boy. Technically it is in a song that came before Shepherd's Boy but it's clear in retrospect that part of the song is meant to be in theme with the latter.
personally I think thats a hell of a song
I see what you did there 😏
Hell yeah
@@GuyMcPherson69 i see what YOU did there
Played the first time twelve was seen and last played the last time Capaldi was seen 😢
heres something i just thought of
denial = 11th
anger = 9th
bargaining = 10th
depression = 12th
acceptance = 13th
Brilliant track 🔥
So unless David Tennant is on screen, this song only plays when the twelfth doctor dies
I wonder if it played in any of the 60th anniversary specials then
@@iLikeTheUDK Did you not see the last clip?
single greatest doctor who fact out there
Personally, I think that’s one hell of a song to die to
Um did you not watch the whole clip… it plays in THREE Capaldi episodes and two specials… wtf
The montage scene in Heaven Sent is the best sequence in Doctor Who, without question.
Montages are not suppose to go that hard, but somehow they managed it
One of for me.
Ngl I think there’s scenes in heaven sent that hit harder for me but I still like it lots.
@@LibertyBridgeProductions yeh same. It doesn’t even come close to being in my top 20 episodes
@@obiwankenobi687 no I meant other scenes in heaven sent I do think it’s definitely top few episodes for me if not my favourite. As a child I hated it but like tbh it’s one I think I’ve matured on.
I think it’s the most mature episode of Doctor Who, best directed, best performed and best written. Can’t really fault it, it’s amazing just on a technical level.
With the way Peter is in the 50th it feels like the 12th Doctor is hanging over War, 10 and 11 because their plan for saving Gallifrey is the kind of plan only 12 could think of.
I like to think it's because that moment where they are all together is what shapes the 12th doctor.
@@m0r1arty I’d say 12 is still the most intelligent incarnation of The Doctor
@@m0r1arty"You can always find something."
@@m0r1artyWhile he's briefly gone in 8e01
@@m0r1arty I've seen people saying when he bails out in Kill the Moon. A "you deal with your planet, I'll go deal with mine" type of thought.
I love the part where it goes ba ba ba ba ba ba
i know what youre talking about when it goes ba ba ba ba ba ba i love that part too
@@eggplantboysna, still not as good as ba ba ba BA ba
Still not as good as Ba Ba Biker 😂
Peter Capaldi is absolutely one of the best Doctors of all time. Imagine being obsessed with this show all your life and then you get to play the lead role! I’ve met him before, hes a very kind man. A true legend.
Always thought The Shepherd's Boy motif sounded like an evolution of the main refrain This Is Gallifrey combined with the middle bridge section of I Am The Doctor
Ah yh I can hear it now!
That might well be the case given DOTD and Heaven Sent both technically take place on Galifrey.
Good chance that's exactly right, considering it was made specifically for the moment that 11 (I Am the Doctor) saves Gallifrey (This Is Gallifrey). It becoming 12's secondary theme was just a happy accident, being intended to foreshadow Gallifrey's return in Heaven Sent.
This theme goes unbelievably hard still 🔥🔥🔥
Holy what? Shepherds Boy was in Day of the Doctor first? That's insane, given how much it's associated with the 12th Doctor and Heaven Sent. Also, Day of the Doctor's soundtrack mostly consists of a "greatest hits of Murray Gold" with tracks from the previous 7 seasons making up most of it, I didn't even realize that it had any original music in it in the first place.
All of it's original, he just uses Leitmotif to his advantage.
@case Looking at the soundtrack itself, sure, but a lot of them are just lost in the background or replaced entirely by reused tracks. "Slitheen" when the TARDIS is picked up by the helicopter, "The Time of Angels" when they're looking at the smashed paintings, "Majestic Tale of a Mad Man in a Box" in the opening credits, when the three Doctors come out of the painting, and when all the Doctors save Gallifrey. "A Sad Man in a Box" when the War Doctor regenerates, "The Leaf" for some reason when 10 leaves at the end, "The Wedding of River Song" in the Curator scene (the actual music for that scene "Song for Four" was used for the phone call between Clara and 11 in Deep Breath). "Dark and Endless Dalek Night" when the Time War is shown, "Words Win Wars" when the War Doctor blasts through the squad of Daleks with the TARDIS.
I honestly didn't notice it playing in The Giggle.
Me neither 😅
It wasn't in giggle, nor the 50th.
@@boulevard14 My brother in Christ, literally watch the video LMAO
@@boulevard14It was literally in both.
@DrWhoFanJ They're different scores. The one in the 50th has a similar arrangement, but the one in the giggle is different piece entirely.
The scene when 12 is blowing up all the Cybermen in The Doctor Falls is one of the best scenes ever. Shepards Boy echoing Peter's outstanding performance is just the cherry on top
Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi were brilliant
Because they're related! :D
@@Greg_Rixwait what?
I find it mad that its synonymous with Capaldi but in the 50th before he started!
It is his first appearance tho! Those eyebrows
It's a song of resilience and hope. To hear it played in that heroic manner in The Giggle. It's beautiful. The Doctor has overcome insane odds and lived many lifetimes to keep humanity safe.
Personally, I think its a hell of a song!
For me it’s heaven sent that uses it the best.
Honestly thought an epic theme like that played more times during Capaldi’s run
Makes the moments where it’s in more special
When the Doctor breaks the cycles of time.
"There's this emperor, he asks the shepherd's boy, how many seconds in eternity, the shepherd's boy says, 'There's a mountain of pure diamond, it takes an hour climb it, and an hour to get around it, every hundred years, a little bird comes and sharpens its beak on the diamond mountain, and when the entire mountain is chiseled away, the first second of eternity will have passed'. You may think that's a hell of a long time, personally, I think that's a hell of a bird"
Edit: accidentally said climb it twice
The music in this show is just incredible. So many great tracks. This is a top 5 tho let’s be real
When I hear this song, I only think of Peter Capaldi❤
The best doctor ❤️
@@CultOfThirteen absolutely, he’s my favourite!💕
When capaldi left so did Doctor Who as it was known since the 60s. It was always supposed to be a family child friendly fairy tale space and time adventure with silly jokes, dumb jokes over the top theatrics and most importantly... Heart. It always had heart and feeling in its writing. Chibnal took that and butchered it and that really upset me as Jodie would have made an amazing doctor in the existing style, I think she would have been a perfect dynamic change from Capaldi's more tired and beaten doctor.
I audibly gasped when watching The Giggle. What an amazing use of that song.
I grinned like an absolute idiot when I heard it in the 60th
Every version is Flawless however i wish we got a digital version of the doctor falls one
Yeah, it is sad no official digital version of it exists but I did find this fan made recreation of it. ruclips.net/video/3aykUeojNoY/видео.htmlsi=W_rVlzhSWNWSp-cq
I'm honestly shocked the 60th specials soundtrack isn't out yet like where is it? 😂
Really well researched,, "the shepherds boy" is purely the 12th's theme, but it DOES appear as a motif in 'this time there's three of us' which is the war doctor/barn theme. This is the first instance of a doctors' theme being played without the respective doctor.... although he does appear in this episode.... well his eyebrows anyway!
The way the theme is derived is as a motif of 'I am the doctor' which is Matt's theme, Matt's is in 7/8 time and features classical orchestral instrumentation similar to David's ("The Doctor Forever") 10th doctor's second theme. It's actually really interesting as to how the music is composed:
(TLDR: Murray Gold is a genius)
In the barn the motif reappears in 'This time there's three of us' but now it's in 4/4 time with a tempo and voice shift towards rock instruments instead of orchestral, and then the true 'Shepards boy' which is Peter's theme is then in 3/4 with a metal timbre twist. And then just to make it even more complex Murray Gold then reverts *back* to 4/4 and echos the strings again when played as part of "breaking the wall". It's really masterful use of time signatures and timbre to play motifs in so many different ways to convey different emotions. The 7/8 time for Matt really does emote an excited little puppy, the 4/4 a methodical and is a comfortable signature for the audience, the 3/4 then encapsulates Peter's 12th doctor journey slower, darker, one-foot-after-the-other, painful slog up towards gallifrey but this time after the wall it has strings now instead of guitar and with trumpets as triumph as well as a military bass drum, methodical and on flat ground, now very much a upbeat march of righteousness rather than the millions of years painful slog of the previous 3/4 acoustic.
so in a long summary :
David: ("Song for ten", "Doctor's theme" (first used in 9's run but continues until series 3/4 where it's overtaken by "The Doctor forever"), "The Doctor Forever (from series 3/4) and Vale Decem). Orchestral 4/4 stars very britpop esque (I mean literally had 'A song for ten' in the christmas invasion!) mainly choral influences towards the end (especially in the latter part of his run ) Sturdy, confident, comfortable.
Matt: ("I am the doctor") 7/8 like a little puppy, choral to begin with, but soon takes on classical and amplified instruments, lacks the vocalisations of Davids' but towards the end of his series there's variations with the pond motifs and River-song's motifs occasionally intertwined towards the back end of his run. I ignore the christmas episodes for this analysis.
War doctor + co : 4/4 version of Matt's theme, with some 2/4 quips but non-choral (except when David is there, notice?) moves more towards amplified instruments and lacks the complexity of Matt's version. I'd like to think Murray Gold looked forward to 12th's theme as he (well his eyebrows) are technically in the episode with this one. Interesting to note that military music tends to be in 4/4 or 2/4 so fits perfectly
Peter's theme ("Shepards boy"): Based on the variation bridge of "I am the doctor" is in 3/4 time (think a waltz) and is very much in the rhythm of labour, think stepping up some stairs when you are really tired. The strumming of acoustified electric guitar really adds to this Sisyphean approach. The released track I argue could open in 6/8 time but then reverts to 3/4 but officially it's published in 3/4, and definately is about a minute into the published recording. I like to think the 6/8 mimics running with Clara, (run you clever boy?) and then the 3/4 the slower darker doctor alone. Flutes and woodwind come in just before the final keychange which highlights the 'triumph' of the doctor against the wall.
Now after the showrunners left in 2017, so did Murray Gold, so the musical journey kind of ends here as the 13th doctors music was a mix of different versions kind of cut about. I cannot recall a motif specifically for Jodie's doctor which is a shame :( That being said he has returned so fingers crossed....
Interesting musical fact: Murray Gold wrote the Dalek theme with the welsh choir for 9's single series run, and because they got on so well then were incorporated from David's christmas invasion in 2005. This was also the first to include both brit-pop extra-diegetic music and 'real' orchestral music, before that the music was composed digitally for 9 except for the single female voice which is uncredited in the doctor's theme.
Thank you for this analysis. I never realized the callbacks and motifs at play. Murray Gold *is* an absolute genius. You’re pretty genius too for piecing this together!
Woah fantastic analysis. Thank you!!!
@@DarkInception I used to listen to the soundtracks a lot when I studied music composition so it just fell into my ears at the right time to study it i think! :P
this is probably the best doctor who song there is
Huh, I never realised that is was reserved for specials/season finales, that’s cool!
I never noticed that but when you mention it, it does seem pretty cool
could you do the same for all the strange strange creatures and the doctor's theme ?
The Doctor’s theme is one we hope to do soon all being well. 😀
@@CultOfThirteenyes please!!!
when I heard the motif from shepherd's boy in the giggle I couldn't get the smile off my face. Doctor Who is back, baby!!
I personally think that Shepards boy is one of the most underrated tracks of Doctor who. It's emotional and it can capture the feeling of so many scenes so well. It's interesting to see that they've brought it back for the new episode recently!
Love that it debuted in the 50th, with three different incarnations, then during the Twelfth Doctor era on epic occasions, and a brief reprise in the 60th. 💥
It's an absolute banger that I would love to be used more, but I think their sparing use of it is part of what makes it hit so hard each time.
Great observation and video- love this theme - thank you!
It represents the Doctor's member ending perseverance for what's good and right. He knows he shouldn't kill the time lords, and does everything to save them. He fights through billions of years of torture to not lose Clara. He never gives up even with thousands of cybermen surrounding him. He lives onto a new body knowing it'll come with amazing and wonderful adventures.
I like how the last word of every doctor when he/she is regenerating looks like the last word of every actor before they leave
It’s awesome
I feel as if this is the theme of the Doctor’s ambition/resolve.
Literally didn't even know these scenes used the same piece of music!
It also plays a softer and darker subtle variation of the motif in Hell Bent in the track "A Duty of Care" with the Doctor and Clara in the Cloisters: ruclips.net/video/9nMWwYSCofI/видео.html
It started in day of he doctor but it became 12s song
when the entire mountain is chiseled away the first second of eternity will pass- well over a billion years you might think thats a hell of a long time- 2 billion years personally i think thats a- AHHHHH
Great piece of music. I hadn't noticed it in The Giggle. Best use of it for me was in Heaven Sent.
Never realized it appeared so early! Wow..
I feel this is more of 12's theme.
this is pretty niche…
and I love it, thank you for making this comp ❤
when i heard it in the giggle..i broke down sobbing like an idiot...12 is my doctor.
Great vid
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be "Shepherd Boy", it's Capaldi's accent that changes it to "Shepherd's".
The name of the song by Murray Gold is called “The Shepherd’s Boy”
This better show up for every single doctor after fourteen. It’s a shame thirteen didn’t get a Shepard’s girl moment.
It’s because Segun took over 😢
Damn, watching this made me really miss Peter Capaldi as The Doctor…
Did Eleven just dab at the most important moment of his life
Never realised it was on 50th Anniversary
How many seconds are in eternity?
around 3.7 and a carrot
So many bangers
So awesome this song was conceptualized for the 50th but not used again until so much later. Murray Gold is such a genius
How is this show sooo good that you can post a video that clips mostly DECADE old scenes with a good score in it, and it gets 6,000 views! Murray Gold IS a genius, but still, wow Doctor Who is something
holy shit I didn't even notice it was in the day of the doctor
do one for the Doctor's theme please
0:00-0:35 I have to apologise, but the music here is "This Time There's Three of Us", which segment sounds similar to "Shepard's Boy"
I think the video is just including it as the light motif that becomes Shepard's Boy. Technically it is in a song that came before Shepherd's Boy but it's clear in retrospect that part of the song is meant to be in theme with the latter.
In the start of the video it says “Every Time a Version of The Shepherd’s Boy Plays”. It includes everything that is a version of the song.
I've probably watched Twice upon a time, like a million times but never noticed shepards boy playing, so thank you for making this