@@cruisy5377 idk he was definitely manipulative and shitty but he didnt want to kidnap her, he just had her stay at his house for the night and then she was declared missing and couldnt rlly leave and after that happened they didnt rlly have a choice bc they would both get in trouble had anyone found out
@@bigbootybitch45 Hun, she expressed multiple times that she was ready to go yet he always made it SEEM as if she had no other options. If you disagree, you have the mindset of a predator, period.
The amount of people defending and justifying Martins actions is concerning and sick. Kate did not ask for it- a normal adult would have turned her away and said it was inappropriate for her to stay the night or to even come over. The only reason she came over was because he had been grooming her for months. Kate asked to leave and he wouldn't let her. He deserved to get in trouble. A normal adult would have a normal relationship with another adult. Can't believe I have to say that!!
Except he wasn't normal. He was mentally scarred. And I don't think what he did qualifies as grooming. Even if it was grooming, he wasn't aware of what he was doing.
As a grooming victim, the potrayal of it in this show means so much to me. Its terrifying how much they nailed it. Props to all the amazing actors who worked their asses off. Olivia and Blake did a phenomenal job covering a heavy and hard to get right topic. They dont romanticize it, but show how kate romanticized him and he glorified himself. They show her viewing him with rose colored glasses on without putting the same glasses on the viewer and that is difficult to do.
Imagine if they hadn’t made it known that he was gonna kidnap her in the beginning… people may not have picked up on the grooming techniques as she didn’t and the outcome would have shocked them.
I don’t think he was going to kidnap her initially.He told her to go to school the day after she slept at his house and was surprised when he came home and she was still there
Every time I see them together, I feel so gross and that I want to take a shower. Even when Kate was happy, you can completely see how he was manipulating her. How can people actually think for one second their relationship was ok.
I mean I don’t think anyone’s saying their relationship was ok. She was a teenager and he was a principal even without the kidnapping everyone sees that it’s fucked up. I think the only point others r trying to make is that it isn’t a straight forward he kidnapped her and forced her to be with him. She did like him, she did go to his house, she did choose to stay. None of that excuses the kidnapping or age inappropriateness. It’s also obvious that some of why she stayed was Bc it was an emotionally abusive relationship. The “he made me choose btwn him and the world and for a long time I chose him” kinda sums it up perfectly. It was a seriously fucked up relationship and it was 99% his bad. But there is depth to the situation. It’s not as straight forward as he kidnapped her or groomed her from the beginning. There is depth and saying there isn’t down plays her character and her choices. (Also by saying she made choices I’m not downplaying the fact that she is a victim at all. Her making choices doesn’t mean she deserved anything that happened to her. But it does make the story more complex then simple he kidnapped her.) but completely 100% he was wrong the whole time and I think everyone knows that.
@@rosiearts7199 I completely agree with you but unfortunately not everyone does. I have seen more than one person claim they they fit together better than her and Jamie did...
@@rosiearts7199 You perfectly summed it up and I 100% agree with you. This show did a masterful job at portraying how gray all of this was than chalking it all up to a simple black and white scenario.
Look at what Kate did to Janette she was wrong but she did it unintentionally that doesn't make her a monster that is why her and janette's story is there so you can understand
he is such a good actor and so is she... and they really got me thinking they loved each other at the beggining but in reality he was just a mf predator and she just deserved so much better:(((
I heard someone say they felt bad for Martin & hated Kate, and idk if it’s cause I’m Kate’s age but Martin is just purely disgusting. Yes Kate made many mistakes, but he should’ve put an end to it instantly. He’s so gross
Compare to what kate did to Jeanette what martin did was nothing, ofc people will hate Kate, martin did try to put an end the second she knocked he's door at night, the second day school starts and she got 100+ days to literally walk out of the house(which she did to see her parents) but she came back, why would the audience feel bad for her? Her whole character was build around manipulating others yet being manipulated herself, she manipulated the society into ruining Jeanette's integrity, and her mom and martin manipulate her for "their own good".
@@calebgao6931 Did you forget that Jeanette broke into Martin’s house and HEARD Kate in the basement but chose to do nothing? The fact you think that Kate making Jeanette a social pariah is comparable to someone OLDER than you keeping you hostage, drugging your food, threatening suicide makes me think you’re so out of touch with reality that it’s not funny.
As a victim of grooming among a whole bunch of other stuff it so annoying seeing people saying that their relationship was ok it wasn’t not even close and your pretty fuck up in the head if you think what he did to her was ok like I’m really getting so sick and tired of people romantically relationship like this like stop
17 year old girls don't get "groomed". They have to take some responsibility for their own actions. Turning up at a male teacher's house with a suitcase and not telling her parents where she is, that's irresponsible and selfish. Kate was not a little girl she was old enough to know that wasn't right. And then she flirted with him and asked him questions about his relationships. Their relationship was not OK but she wasn't groomed. Teachers are allowed to offer their students an ear, and friendships can develop where there is unequal power. I am friends with my boss, by the logic of this therapist, I couldn't possibly be because of the power dynamic! This movie sends a bad message, that every teacher who befriends their students is grooming them. They are not not...but most students know that it's not ok to turn up at a teacher's house with a suitcase! Even if he had been honest with her mom or told the police, her showing up with her luggage would have put his career in jeopardy had people found out.
@@jenjones90 ok Kate was 16. and he was 30. and it was just not the fact that he let her stay in his house but the fact that he kissed her and did sexual things with her and then made her choose between her whole life and him. Maybe she agreed in being with him in his house at first but her agreement doesn’t even matter because we are talking about an adult that makes a teenager live for months in his house just because he wants to have a romantic relationship with her without being caught. And not only that but if you actually watch that scenes you can perfectly see how he does everything on his power to manipulate her and make her think that what is happening is ok. And when Kate finally chooses her life over him Martin tells her that she’s not going to have her life back until she’s 18. Then she says he sounds like her kidnapper and he reacts being horrified but then when she tells him she wants to go he LOCKS HER IN A BASEMENT. Then he hits her when she tries to run away but hey, he’s the good guy because he provides her food and clothes and books. But he locks her in a basement for months against her decision because he doesn’t want to get caught. The tv show can make Martin seem like a good guy because most of the grommers seem like that. But he’s a total psycho.
@@jenjones90 oh my God she was totally being groomed. Women up to 22 can be groomed. She was a vulnerable young woman and he took advantage of that. Yes at 16 people know some stuff but he was twice her age and knew what he was doing. Right down to his wording he was manipulating her and making her feel like he was the only one. AND THEN finally when something happens enough for her to turn to him, he doesn’t turn her away or call her parents he invites her in and then KISSES her the next day. I don’t care that she didn’t go to schoool he should have just let her leave but he didn’t because and I repeat HE WAS GROOMING HER. Fucking calling a victim selfish.
@@jenjones90 he started grooming her when she was 15 :/ not that it makes it any worse bc even if she was 16-20 it’s still gross and awful she was groomed bc he had said shit like “i thought you were one of the adults” playing into the ‘mature for your age’ tactic many groomers use in order to manipulate her into thinking it was okay:/
Y’all remember the scene on Christmas Eve and he said do you want to see what Santa got you then said I mean me. He saw her as a child while telling her that she acted like an adult. Typical pedophile nothing romantic about this.
Oh yeah that line when she was getting upset that he didn’t want her to even go outside she says “That makes you sound like…” and he finishes her sentence with “what like your dad?” Creeped me tf out for real like wtf he’s creepy af
Nothing in this relationship was okay or normal, but you have to admit there was some part of him that cared because of his actions at the end before his death. THIS IS NOT OKAY but at least he acknowledged that he did something wrong and apologized and he was willing to pay with his life. ONCE AGAIN so i dont get hate, THIS IS NOT OKAY and if you've experienced anything like this or anyone you've cared about has experienced this, talk to someone and get help
@@Chihir0w yep and then pulled the you won’t shoot me you love me card in the end to add to the manipulation not to mention the cops weren’t on to him the only reason they showed up is cause she called them he just wanted her to quit fighting their relationship 🤢🤮
I see no point in telling women that men care because 1 women don't like to be held accountable and 2 because men use logic over feeling it seems they are evil
I think that’s the point. Not everything has to be black or white. This whole situation sat heavily on a gray area. I think he was a good guy and then he obsessed over her and became a bad one 😕. Everyone keeps saying he was terrible all along, but that’s not it. I think this beautifully shows the tragic turning of events and how love can mess people up. You get flashbacks-happy or sad. And the video isn’t being critical. It’s looking thru the audiences lens. Ur opinions are formed from that. Whoever created this vid tied everything together in a way that makes ur heart melt and break at the same time, just like Kate’s 🙁. Everyone lost in the end.
Me encantó el edit pero me siento tan mal por Kate. Ella solamente buscaba el amor y protección que nadie le dió, ella cometió muchos errores y a pesar de haber tenido amigos, novio, belleza y popularidad no le quitaba el hecho de que ella se sentía sola e incomprendida. Lo siento mucho, Kate.
@@andreaf8404 Creo que ese beso entre ellas fue de amistad, no por amor en sí, a demás Mallory es una persona con actitudes destructivas que me hacen pensar que tarde o temprano podrá usar todo en su contra para atacarla igual :(
@@Vic-fw4yj first you are probably a guy if you are a girl that's amazing I don't support what martin did at all but you can see that girls don't like to take accountability it's great how you could see Mallory's flaws too but most of the girls don't see it but they could paint martin as a monster easily
I wish you’d used the version of Creep from the last scene of the season one finale instead, or the one by Scala & Kolancy Brothers, (but it’s still a very good edit).
When you were here before, Couldn't look you in the eye You're just like an angel, Your skin makes me cry You float like a feather In a beautiful world I wish I was special You're so fuckin' special But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo What the hell am I doin' here? I don't belong here I don't care if it hurts, I wanna have control I want a perfect body I want a perfect soul I want you to notice when I'm not around You're so fuckin' special I wish I was special But I'm a creep I'm a weirdo What the hell am I doin' here? I don't belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh She's running out again She's running out She run run run run... run... run... Whatever makes you happy Whatever you want You're so fuckin' special I wish I was special But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo What the hell am I doin' here? I don't belong here I don't belong here...
What pisses me off from the whole show is that Kates mom raised a really naïve daughter. To just look pretty and that’s it . Yet she was so naive too, knowing their was out their bad people from her mom to Martin . Like I know he was a whole adult but the fact that her spidy sense didn’t catch to the fact that he was a high power from that to the fact that he was a school staff and she had other places to go from her friends. Not only that In that carnival scene he let his intentions clear by telling her he thought she was an adult nah sis I wouldn’t even tell him “why didn’t you say hi” girl he is your vp and he is telling you he was looking at you with others eyes . Second he was clearly single, no family, new to town , no relationships with anyone. She didn’t knew him and still she hop into his car……. I think my problem isn’t about the fact that it was him but a Unknown person . If it was someone who already lived on the town it would of been more chaotic, their would been a stage of relationship and it would be more cleare on she decide to trust that person . Let’s say him but if he was her whole year teacher or her dads friend and with that being said idk how nobody in their town look at him if he was clearly new and nothing like that had of happened before.Everyone just ignore him as if they all knew him just because he was a teacher…. Literally Kate was kidnapped for a minute and nobody decide to check on the new VP background or anything …. Girlllllll
martin wasnt the worst kidnaper ill say that and this series was pretty great I loved it sure I was kind of disapointed in the ending last twist. But at the same time that means ill have more episodes to watch in 2022
No hate, but……this shouldn’t be glorified, at all. Like even tho it’s not real, it portrays literal pedophilia and that unfortunately does happen in the real world. I don’t know why anyone would wanna make a fancam about that….
This show was an illegal criminal gain of my life story as a victim, by my criminal perpetrators; Adam Antoniades, Karen Zamir and Justin Patton. They know EXACTLY what I am talking about. One word...NORCAL.
@@anon--k it’s not. She hasn’t released it. It’s a cover by This other girl a comment more up, and it’s on the show YOU. Look it up, “ Creep YOU cover “
@@francescagrecco8695 I think they did love each other in the beginning. As all releationships work, in the very beginning, being together is all nice, rose and rainbows. (My ex started to get totally weird after the first month. She is a total narcisist, manipulative liar and with a constant mania of feeling the saviour of the day for the other. Feeling important. PS: I have had 2 narcisisitc partners, sadly). Kate fell in love because of the attention Marting gave her. Marting fell in love with her I think not only for the way she looked but also because she was young. Anyway from the beginning you see that sick shade in his face and behaviour. Not only for the age gap, but for this constant being afraid of get caught hiding a minor and the way he controlled her. Most of all the controlling way. In the beginning he wasn't totally controlling. God... in this show they all have at least one mental issue.
no. he was always grooming her. this is NOT okey. kate was 16 and he was a full grown adult. NEVER OKEY. even if he wouldn't have kidnapped her, it would still be wrong.
No because she was acting completely different than she normally does and as she falls in love with mal it's completely different and she actually glows. This is creepy and she seems like she's acting. Subconsciously she was afraid of him, but cared deeply what he thought of her, and also thought she loved him
Their relationship reminds me a lot of Ezria in Pretty little liars, except Cruel Summer handled it the correct way.
It reminded me as well
Correct way?
@@CaptainChapin They didn't romanticize grooming.
@@ClaudiaJuliet it wasn’t romanticized
@@CaptainChapin In PLL it was.
He held her captive. Anyone who approves of their "relationship," then you have issues!
he didnt rlly have a choice tho, the story would have been completely twisted had someone found out, he just wanted to keep her happy
@@bigbootybitch45 girl HUH
@@cruisy5377 idk he was definitely manipulative and shitty but he didnt want to kidnap her, he just had her stay at his house for the night and then she was declared missing and couldnt rlly leave and after that happened they didnt rlly have a choice bc they would both get in trouble had anyone found out
@@bigbootybitch45 are you ok? I am not kidding how can you justify his actions?? How old are you this is not ok
@@bigbootybitch45 Hun, she expressed multiple times that she was ready to go yet he always made it SEEM as if she had no other options. If you disagree, you have the mindset of a predator, period.
The amount of people defending and justifying Martins actions is concerning and sick. Kate did not ask for it- a normal adult would have turned her away and said it was inappropriate for her to stay the night or to even come over. The only reason she came over was because he had been grooming her for months. Kate asked to leave and he wouldn't let her. He deserved to get in trouble. A normal adult would have a normal relationship with another adult. Can't believe I have to say that!!
Right, how can people romanticise this!! It's S I C K
it's those same people that also ship aria and ezra
@@lizlizlizoo207 sorry who are they?
@@notreehill1756 aria is a student who dated her teacher (& got married)
Except he wasn't normal. He was mentally scarred. And I don't think what he did qualifies as grooming. Even if it was grooming, he wasn't aware of what he was doing.
Watching this show was a totally rollercoaster
As a grooming victim, the potrayal of it in this show means so much to me. Its terrifying how much they nailed it. Props to all the amazing actors who worked their asses off. Olivia and Blake did a phenomenal job covering a heavy and hard to get right topic. They dont romanticize it, but show how kate romanticized him and he glorified himself. They show her viewing him with rose colored glasses on without putting the same glasses on the viewer and that is difficult to do.
You are SUCH a lying POS! You are one of Justin Patton's victimizers of ME, posting on RUclips to LIE to America.
Imagine if they hadn’t made it known that he was gonna kidnap her in the beginning… people may not have picked up on the grooming techniques as she didn’t and the outcome would have shocked them.
I don’t think he was going to kidnap her initially.He told her to go to school the day after she slept at his house and was surprised when he came home and she was still there
Every time I see them together, I feel so gross and that I want to take a shower. Even when Kate was happy, you can completely see how he was manipulating her. How can people actually think for one second their relationship was ok.
I mean I don’t think anyone’s saying their relationship was ok. She was a teenager and he was a principal even without the kidnapping everyone sees that it’s fucked up. I think the only point others r trying to make is that it isn’t a straight forward he kidnapped her and forced her to be with him. She did like him, she did go to his house, she did choose to stay. None of that excuses the kidnapping or age inappropriateness. It’s also obvious that some of why she stayed was Bc it was an emotionally abusive relationship. The “he made me choose btwn him and the world and for a long time I chose him” kinda sums it up perfectly. It was a seriously fucked up relationship and it was 99% his bad. But there is depth to the situation. It’s not as straight forward as he kidnapped her or groomed her from the beginning. There is depth and saying there isn’t down plays her character and her choices. (Also by saying she made choices I’m not downplaying the fact that she is a victim at all. Her making choices doesn’t mean she deserved anything that happened to her. But it does make the story more complex then simple he kidnapped her.) but completely 100% he was wrong the whole time and I think everyone knows that.
@@rosiearts7199 I completely agree with you but unfortunately not everyone does. I have seen more than one person claim they they fit together better than her and Jamie did...
@@annabannana4695 You don't know how old that person might be, they might be in their early teens. And they find it romantic
@@rosiearts7199 You perfectly summed it up and I 100% agree with you. This show did a masterful job at portraying how gray all of this was than chalking it all up to a simple black and white scenario.
@@annabannana4695 people aren't saying it was okay they are just saying that martin wasn't a monster
Perfect song choice... Martin is so creepy. He freaks me out cause he makes everything sound so normal.
Because it happened unintentionally Olivia Holt talked about this
That doesn't mean what he did was right but he wasn't a monster that's the point here he hands down wasn't
Look at what Kate did to Janette she was wrong but she did it unintentionally that doesn't make her a monster that is why her and janette's story is there so you can understand
Normally, this song gives me romantic vibes, but this… god it makes me shudder and see it from a completely different viewpoint. Bravo 👏
I love this show
he is such a good actor and so is she... and they really got me thinking they loved each other at the beggining but in reality he was just a mf predator and she just deserved so much better:(((
I heard someone say they felt bad for Martin & hated Kate, and idk if it’s cause I’m Kate’s age but Martin is just purely disgusting. Yes Kate made many mistakes, but he should’ve put an end to it instantly. He’s so gross
It's not because of your age. I'm his age and I also see he manipulates her.
Compare to what kate did to Jeanette what martin did was nothing, ofc people will hate Kate, martin did try to put an end the second she knocked he's door at night, the second day school starts and she got 100+ days to literally walk out of the house(which she did to see her parents) but she came back, why would the audience feel bad for her? Her whole character was build around manipulating others yet being manipulated herself, she manipulated the society into ruining Jeanette's integrity, and her mom and martin manipulate her for "their own good".
@@calebgao6931 Did you forget that Jeanette broke into Martin’s house and HEARD Kate in the basement but chose to do nothing? The fact you think that Kate making Jeanette a social pariah is comparable to someone OLDER than you keeping you hostage, drugging your food, threatening suicide makes me think you’re so out of touch with reality that it’s not funny.
Would you be so vociferious if the genders were reversed?
@@SDwilly Yes
Martin looks like norman bates
i heard that’s why he got casted
As a victim of grooming among a whole bunch of other stuff it so annoying seeing people saying that their relationship was ok it wasn’t not even close and your pretty fuck up in the head if you think what he did to her was ok like I’m really getting so sick and tired of people romantically relationship like this like stop
17 year old girls don't get "groomed". They have to take some responsibility for their own actions. Turning up at a male teacher's house with a suitcase and not telling her parents where she is, that's irresponsible and selfish. Kate was not a little girl she was old enough to know that wasn't right. And then she flirted with him and asked him questions about his relationships.
Their relationship was not OK but she wasn't groomed. Teachers are allowed to offer their students an ear, and friendships can develop where there is unequal power. I am friends with my boss, by the logic of this therapist, I couldn't possibly be because of the power dynamic!
This movie sends a bad message, that every teacher who befriends their students is grooming them. They are not not...but most students know that it's not ok to turn up at a teacher's house with a suitcase! Even if he had been honest with her mom or told the police, her showing up with her luggage would have put his career in jeopardy had people found out.
@@jenjones90 ok Kate was 16. and he was 30. and it was just not the fact that he let her stay in his house but the fact that he kissed her and did sexual things with her and then made her choose between her whole life and him. Maybe she agreed in being with him in his house at first but her agreement doesn’t even matter because we are talking about an adult that makes a teenager live for months in his house just because he wants to have a romantic relationship with her without being caught. And not only that but if you actually watch that scenes you can perfectly see how he does everything on his power to manipulate her and make her think that what is happening is ok. And when Kate finally chooses her life over him Martin tells her that she’s not going to have her life back until she’s 18. Then she says he sounds like her kidnapper and he reacts being horrified but then when she tells him she wants to go he LOCKS HER IN A BASEMENT. Then he hits her when she tries to run away but hey, he’s the good guy because he provides her food and clothes and books. But he locks her in a basement for months against her decision because he doesn’t want to get caught. The tv show can make Martin seem like a good guy because most of the grommers seem like that. But he’s a total psycho.
@@jenjones90 oh my God she was totally being groomed. Women up to 22 can be groomed. She was a vulnerable young woman and he took advantage of that.
Yes at 16 people know some stuff but he was twice her age and knew what he was doing. Right down to his wording he was manipulating her and making her feel like he was the only one. AND THEN finally when something happens enough for her to turn to him, he doesn’t turn her away or call her parents he invites her in and then KISSES her the next day. I don’t care that she didn’t go to schoool he should have just let her leave but he didn’t because and I repeat HE WAS GROOMING HER.
Fucking calling a victim selfish.
@@jenjones90 he started grooming her when she was 15 :/
not that it makes it any worse bc even if she was 16-20 it’s still gross and awful
she was groomed bc he had said shit like “i thought you were one of the adults” playing into the ‘mature for your age’ tactic many groomers use in order to manipulate her into thinking it was okay:/
@@jenjones90 bruh
absolute chills.
Y’all remember the scene on Christmas Eve and he said do you want to see what Santa got you then said I mean me. He saw her as a child while telling her that she acted like an adult. Typical pedophile nothing romantic about this.
Oh yeah that line when she was getting upset that he didn’t want her to even go outside she says “That makes you sound like…” and he finishes her sentence with “what like your dad?” Creeped me tf out for real like wtf he’s creepy af
He plays being straight pretty good honestly in real life you can totally tell he’s gay
Thats increasing steorytipes
He is gay in real life and married
😭😭😭😭😭
The guy from bridgerton is gay too irl
That was INTENSE omg 😳
This is beautiful
This is a good edit
It’s ironic since this is the same network that made pretty little liars. I’m happy to see this whole teacher/student trend is dying down
This was beautiful and sad
The right thing would’ve been to call her parents the minute he could. He’s a predator. The most dangerous one since he was so likeable
Putting his creepiness aside, anyone else find him weirdly attractive 😭😭
Yup he is definitely a creep, she was a vulnerable, scared n confused teenager.
This show was way too good and well thought out. Everything just made sense, and perfectly portrayed the process of gr0oming
The whole time I thought of their relationship just like Ezra and Aria from PLL
Nothing in this relationship was okay or normal, but you have to admit there was some part of him that cared because of his actions at the end before his death. THIS IS NOT OKAY but at least he acknowledged that he did something wrong and apologized and he was willing to pay with his life. ONCE AGAIN so i dont get hate, THIS IS NOT OKAY and if you've experienced anything like this or anyone you've cared about has experienced this, talk to someone and get help
@Cherry8201 Exactly, he quickly changed his mind.
@@Chihir0w yep and then pulled the you won’t shoot me you love me card in the end to add to the manipulation not to mention the cops weren’t on to him the only reason they showed up is cause she called them he just wanted her to quit fighting their relationship 🤢🤮
@@sarahgreen2316 bro!!!! You literally are heartless
I see no point in telling women that men care because 1 women don't like to be held accountable and 2 because men use logic over feeling it seems they are evil
Martin did care about her and he unintentionally did groom her Olivia Holt confirmed this
Wtf this is sick
Well...sick literally
This nearly made me cry🥺🥺
um wtf lol the fact i can't tell if this is critical of their relationship or not is concerning
I think the song choice makes it clear
Perfectly shows the dangers of grooming. ;)
@@JetteBahlke no im pretty sure this person is just romanticizing their relationship
I think that’s the point. Not everything has to be black or white. This whole situation sat heavily on a gray area. I think he was a good guy and then he obsessed over her and became a bad one 😕. Everyone keeps saying he was terrible all along, but that’s not it. I think this beautifully shows the tragic turning of events and how love can mess people up. You get flashbacks-happy or sad. And the video isn’t being critical. It’s looking thru the audiences lens. Ur opinions are formed from that. Whoever created this vid tied everything together in a way that makes ur heart melt and break at the same time, just like Kate’s 🙁. Everyone lost in the end.
@@elliesheldahl girl what good guy he's a pedophile
Poor Kate :(
This is Michelle Branch’s cover of Creep, not Olivia Holt.
Me encantó el edit pero me siento tan mal por Kate. Ella solamente buscaba el amor y protección que nadie le dió, ella cometió muchos errores y a pesar de haber tenido amigos, novio, belleza y popularidad no le quitaba el hecho de que ella se sentía sola e incomprendida. Lo siento mucho, Kate.
me gustó que al final consiguió eso con alguien que no estaba manipulandola y la quería, como mallory
@@andreaf8404 Creo que ese beso entre ellas fue de amistad, no por amor en sí, a demás Mallory es una persona con actitudes destructivas que me hacen pensar que tarde o temprano podrá usar todo en su contra para atacarla igual :(
@@Vic-fw4yj exacto
@@Vic-fw4yj Totalmente pienso lo mismo.
Veamos que pasa en la segunda temporada.
@@Vic-fw4yj first you are probably a guy if you are a girl that's amazing
I don't support what martin did at all but you can see that girls don't like to take accountability it's great how you could see Mallory's flaws too but most of the girls don't see it but they could paint martin as a monster easily
I wish you’d used the version of Creep from the last scene of the season one finale instead, or the one by Scala & Kolancy Brothers, (but it’s still a very good edit).
How can people think for a second that they were really in love?
To jail you gooo, bc this is not okay 😭😕
When you were here before,
Couldn't look you in the eye
You're just like an angel,
Your skin makes me cry
You float like a feather
In a beautiful world
I wish I was special
You're so fuckin' special
But I'm a creep,
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here?
I don't belong here
I don't care if it hurts,
I wanna have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul
I want you to notice
when I'm not around
You're so fuckin' special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here?
I don't belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh
She's running out again
She's running out
She run run run run...
run... run...
Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so fuckin' special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep,
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doin' here?
I don't belong here
I don't belong here...
idk if this is romanticizing their relationship or not but please guys he is a predator it is not okay
^
martin harris… electric chair
What pisses me off from the whole show is that Kates mom raised a really naïve daughter. To just look pretty and that’s it . Yet she was so naive too, knowing their was out their bad people from her mom to Martin . Like I know he was a whole adult but the fact that her spidy sense didn’t catch to the fact that he was a high power from that to the fact that he was a school staff and she had other places to go from her friends. Not only that In that carnival scene he let his intentions clear by telling her he thought she was an adult nah sis I wouldn’t even tell him “why didn’t you say hi” girl he is your vp and he is telling you he was looking at you with others eyes . Second he was clearly single, no family, new to town , no relationships with anyone. She didn’t knew him and still she hop into his car……. I think my problem isn’t about the fact that it was him but a Unknown person . If it was someone who already lived on the town it would of been more chaotic, their would been a stage of relationship and it would be more cleare on she decide to trust that person . Let’s say him but if he was her whole year teacher or her dads friend and with that being said idk how nobody in their town look at him if he was clearly new and nothing like that had of happened before.Everyone just ignore him as if they all knew him just because he was a teacher…. Literally Kate was kidnapped for a minute and nobody decide to check on the new VP background or anything …. Girlllllll
This is Sara corbello I rewatching it today and it is alot like pll cool I can't wait for season 2 Wish I knew when it coming out
Kate deserved way better.
I finished the first season cruel summer and right when i saw Martin he CREEPED ME THE HECK OUT THE WAY HE WAS STARING AT KATE 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Dude would be less creepy if he was like All For One or Emperor Palpatine. At least those dudes don't commit sex offender crimes
But blake lee is attractive 💕
facts
I know right
Is there a link somewhere to this song?
why I love him??
Why not season 2 ?
Alguien sabe donde puedo escuchar la canción sola 🙏🏻
I know it's weird to like them as a couple
Interesting 🤨
martin wasnt the worst kidnaper ill say that and this series was pretty great I loved it sure I was kind of disapointed in the ending last twist. But at the same time that means ill have more episodes to watch in 2022
Martin is such a GEek...😅😂
Where did you get your clips from?
Do you mean what show?
@@foodmomma5240 no i know what show I need clips
@@katiekatears Uhm, she cut the clips? That's how that works? You take a video and edit the clips you need?
It’s scary but as a 27 yr old I would fall for this kind of guy even at 27 then realise he’s a bad guy 🙄😫
27 would be age appropriate for him
Shaina Cilimberg yeah true but I mean anyone at any age can get kidnapped lol
Is there any pure audio of Olivia's Creep cover without the movie audio?
It’s a cover by Michelle branch, not Olivia
No hate, but……this shouldn’t be glorified, at all. Like even tho it’s not real, it portrays literal pedophilia and that unfortunately does happen in the real world. I don’t know why anyone would wanna make a fancam about that….
When was it glorified?
its not glorified imo, they literally used the song "creep"
Martin and Kate
Where’d you get the scenes?
They are from the show "Cruel Summer"
Who is the author of this song?
Michelle Branch
This show was an illegal criminal gain of my life story as a victim, by my criminal perpetrators; Adam Antoniades, Karen Zamir and Justin Patton. They know EXACTLY what I am talking about. One word...NORCAL.
I Ship Kate With Martin and Jamie. Kartin and Kamie My Fav Couple Ship.
BTW...my perpetrator's "staff" is all over this video's post.
Seems that way
Who covers this song?!
Olivia Holt.
Michelle Branch
@@azul25 no
Yeah, it's Olivia Holt. She also covered the song 'Today' by Smashing Pumpkins. Which is also on the show.
@@anon--k it’s not. She hasn’t released it. It’s a cover by This other girl a comment more up, and it’s on the show YOU. Look it up, “ Creep YOU cover “
Sad part is, is that in the beginning i feel like they actually did love each other-but it got controlling and out of hand.
He tricked her into thinking that, she didn’t love him she never did she was just young and confused and vulnerable
@@francescagrecco8695 I think they did love each other in the beginning. As all releationships work, in the very beginning, being together is all nice, rose and rainbows. (My ex started to get totally weird after the first month. She is a total narcisist, manipulative liar and with a constant mania of feeling the saviour of the day for the other. Feeling important. PS: I have had 2 narcisisitc partners, sadly).
Kate fell in love because of the attention Marting gave her.
Marting fell in love with her I think not only for the way she looked but also because she was young. Anyway from the beginning you see that sick shade in his face and behaviour. Not only for the age gap, but for this constant being afraid of get caught hiding a minor and the way he controlled her. Most of all the controlling way.
In the beginning he wasn't totally controlling.
God... in this show they all have at least one mental issue.
no. he was always grooming her. this is NOT okey. kate was 16 and he was a full grown adult. NEVER OKEY. even if he wouldn't have kidnapped her, it would still be wrong.
@@BlackMambaN90 no.
No because she was acting completely different than she normally does and as she falls in love with mal it's completely different and she actually glows. This is creepy and she seems like she's acting. Subconsciously she was afraid of him, but cared deeply what he thought of her, and also thought she loved him
She looks like Brie Larson
Yep, Stockholm Syndrome:
i don’t think it is in this instance, she was groomed but i don’t think it was Stockholm Syndrome
I liked Martin and thought he was super cute !!! Was sad when he died
yuck
quem Shippa isso é doente
i feel so bad for her
Martin and Kate