Ganon's Customs hit so different. Wizard's Dropkick was lowkey a really good move and getting shield breaks with his sword stab for Neutral B was cool.
I really wish they made Wizards Dropkick his down B in ultimate, it would help widen the gap between him and falcon, it fits him a lot better, and it would do him a lot competitively.
In Super Smash Flash 2 Ganon has Wizard's Dropkick as down b in the ground and normal down b in the air, also has an up b similar to the one showed in this video and also has his Ultimate's Sword smash attacks... All this things make Ganon so funny to play as.
If you were doing this as a series, I would like the format of going over the official tier list for smash 4 and looking at how the characters could be improved using their custom moves
7:37 Regarding Sonic's Stomp custom move, it actually allows Sonic to meteor smash opponents with it since it's based on Bounce iirc. I forgot though if you could continually use it if you land it, but it does become another option for Sonic to be able to meteor smash opponents with if you have it, especially if one struggles to sweet spot his down air. However, it does plummet you down fairly quickly so it'd be pretty easy to SD' with it if you're careless with it.' As for other custom moves, I remember there being a G&W one where Judge just becomes either 1 or 9 so that might be interesting to talk about.
I kinda wish ultimate had echo characters with some of these moves, some look interesting and viable to just copy and paste, and others just need a bit of a tweak to make them better
They should’ve given Daisy Peach’s custom moves since she’s probably the laziest echo fighter ever implemented, nothing about her is different from Peach (well her Turnips were SLIGHTLY different at one point but they patched that out) she might as well just have been a alternate costume like Alph is for Olimar.
4:31 I love this move because of it's hidden utility: the backward shift doesn't have movement collision. What this means is that if you run up to some one, input the move in the opposite direction of which you're facing, that you'll teleport behind them and hit them from behind. I really encourage you to try it out!
Alot of people forget to mention that Warlock Blade can one shot shields. Other things you missed: Falcon Dive has a hit box at the very top of the move, so you can you can use it to kill off the top. Fire Fang is safe on shield and has ok shield damage
They did 1 balance patch for custom moves during smash 4slife. I feel if it was more popular they would have done more and a custom move format could have been more fleshed out.
@@spreadwuvokay you were never supposed to be able to unlock them all at once. That’s literally the whole point. Nintendo should’ve just made a dedicated tournament client that Auto Unlock’s them like every other company
@@ae_angles I think they mean the Up B Dolphin Slash variant that sends Marth at a more horizontal angle. But that move, and the Iai Counter are both quite nuts
4:15 "It´s quite hard to pull off tho, as I don´t even know how to do it" 5:24 "I´ve trying for like 10 minutes, but keep my word on it, it spikes" I genuinely like how honest you are lmao
All of C.falcons custom Down B’s were so good, the lightning one was so fun to use. I miss custom moves so much, I just wish it was added as a last update for smash ultimate alongside smash run.
Wario's inhale chomp is actually a reference to Wario World! Weird on itself that there's a reference to his action games for once, but of course this was completely removed in Ultimate because why not
Custom moves were a really cool idea for casual play, or just messing around in general. I kinda wish they came back in Ultimate, but I do understand why they were cut, and it gives Smash 4 it’s own identity.
Mighty Falcon Punch is actually WEAKER than the regular one. There is absolutely no reason to use it. And his Up-B that was shown off has a hitbox while he is going up, but not at the start. These videos are nice but I feel like some information is being left out, or misinformation at all, like the infinite armor on Kirby's giant hammer, he can charge it. And none of Falcon's Side Bs were for combos in Smash 4, it was a kill option.
Marth's (and Lucina's) crescent slash custom gave Marth grab release combos like a brawl character. Basically if you get air released at 70% near ledge you're dead
It’s neat that Ganon gets the Sage Sword for a neutral b, Sonic gets his fire spin dash from Sonic Adventure 2, and Wario’s inhale chomp from Wario World. I always loves custom moves, so it’s a shame custom tournaments were omitted a while into SSB4’s lifespan.
I'm glad you brought up Bowser my custom moveset for him actually is the fire ball, the sliding dash and the super high up b as they give great recovery while allowing Bowser to be a psuedo rush down grappler character
You didn't do justice for Sonic. Hammer Spindash is the most busted custom in the entire game. Mocha got 9th at Evo spamming it 50+ times per match. It's 100% unpunishable with it's invulnerability, goes at an angle that's hard to punish out of shield, and grounds it's opponents on contact.
Im loving these, i sold mi wiiu to get a switch (latam moment) so these fills me whit a lot of nostalgia, keep up the good work man and congrats for that lot pf subs
If I recall correctly, the longer startup Falcon Punch with a bigger falcon hitbox actually does LESS damage and knockback, but has a bigger hitbox, with the description being wrong edit: also the Surprise Attack one definitely can lock on and such like the normal one. I remember annoying one of my friends by spamming it when they were offstage, because it's so fast. Maybe it works a bit weirder though, i don't remember, been a while.
I miss custom moves. Even though some of them had like 0 thought put into them lol. But I think they should have made Gannondorfs custom with the sword his neutral special in ultimate. Just to keep with the theme of adding sword attacks into his moves
I completely forgot about the custom moves!! I wish this was implemented in Ultimate where when can pick a character you can put whatever special moves you want.
Villager custom moves and DK up B are probably the most iconic for how broken they were. Pikachu also had a tjolt that stunned so you could do an infinite similar to Falcon (but better since it's a projectile and much more spammable)
Am I the only one who wished Custom Moves came back in Ultimate: Yeah sure, competitive would kick up a storm. But here's a novel concept that they should be used to...ready... *Just don't use them*
You know we can hear your controller clacking right? So when you're talking about Wario's speed bike we... we can hear you not actually trying to get out of the bike. In fact, 7:55 you DO get off of it, but then continue to DI to the blast zone. If you don't like a power that is entirely understandable and you have every right, but... Why lie?
this guy has a lot of really weird inconsistencies in his youtube videos. he’ll insist that some options are true combos, won’t show off some of the things he’s talking about for some reason, says things that are blatantly untrue like the bowser side b custom is like an aerial wavedash, etc. his pfp and intro are super basic almost to a satirical level, which is strange because it has been shown that he has a certain level of technical proficiency with modding, it’s really strange
Honestly, these and Smash Run(And to an extent, Smash Tour) are the things I miss most from Sm4sh…Also, the PAC-MAZE and Rainbow Road stages, because why the hell couldn’t we have those back in Ultimate
I'm drawn to these videos because of the topic, but I'm kind of put off by the lack of polish. As a smaller RUclips just starting out, you should work on the occasional stuttering or maybe edit them out. Another example of where your editing could improve is seen when you mis-input Wario's Up-B; that part could have just been cut out. I mean all of this as a way to be helpful, not disrespectful! Keep it up and work on some stuff. I like this kind of content a lot.
Fun fact you can hold armoured jet hammer as dedede and super armour anything aside grabs, this was pretty cheesy in matches as dedede could literally just bust out the thing when he is in kill % and got nothing to lose then simply wait in your face oustide of grab ranage then punish anything as a response
DK kong cyclone is just stupid af it’s huge it’s fast it has a windbox ect Lightweight Palutena is just amazing Power vision is vision but more extreme Rocket barrel attack is exactly what diddy needed Meteor stone was awesome So many amazing moves
Ganon's Customs hit so different. Wizard's Dropkick was lowkey a really good move and getting shield breaks with his sword stab for Neutral B was cool.
So many people wanted a more magic based Ganondorf, so seeing him become slow Bayonetta is basically the best of both worlds.
Ganon was unironically good with customs which is crazy, because he sucked without them
I really wish they made Wizards Dropkick his down B in ultimate, it would help widen the gap between him and falcon, it fits him a lot better, and it would do him a lot competitively.
In Super Smash Flash 2 Ganon has Wizard's Dropkick as down b in the ground and normal down b in the air, also has an up b similar to the one showed in this video and also has his Ultimate's Sword smash attacks... All this things make Ganon so funny to play as.
It also jumps over some projectiles and greatly improves recovery too, just a much better move by far, shame he couldn't have that instead.
If you were doing this as a series, I would like the format of going over the official tier list for smash 4 and looking at how the characters could be improved using their custom moves
That’s an awesome idea
i second this idea, would love to see it!
Just giving away good ideas are we?
7:37 Regarding Sonic's Stomp custom move, it actually allows Sonic to meteor smash opponents with it since it's based on Bounce iirc. I forgot though if you could continually use it if you land it, but it does become another option for Sonic to be able to meteor smash opponents with if you have it, especially if one struggles to sweet spot his down air. However, it does plummet you down fairly quickly so it'd be pretty easy to SD' with it if you're careless with it.'
As for other custom moves, I remember there being a G&W one where Judge just becomes either 1 or 9 so that might be interesting to talk about.
Yeah
You could also basically infinite people with it by locking them, from a footstool
You mean that bounce attack from Lost World? That's pretty cool.
I kinda wish ultimate had echo characters with some of these moves, some look interesting and viable to just copy and paste, and others just need a bit of a tweak to make them better
I wish Ultimate gave Lucina some of the custom moves instead of butchering Marth to make him more similar.
@@tenacity25 same, it would make every echo of the like more interesting, let's what happends next
They should’ve given Daisy Peach’s custom moves since she’s probably the laziest echo fighter ever implemented, nothing about her is different from Peach (well her Turnips were SLIGHTLY different at one point but they patched that out) she might as well just have been a alternate costume like Alph is for Olimar.
@@YuriNoel7 I kinda agree, but atleast they gave daisy her owns effects and her own toad.
Custom moves were such a cool idea, it sucks that they were so unbalanced and the competitive scene only cared about them for a few months
They never bothered to buff/nerf them
4:31 I love this move because of it's hidden utility: the backward shift doesn't have movement collision. What this means is that if you run up to some one, input the move in the opposite direction of which you're facing, that you'll teleport behind them and hit them from behind. I really encourage you to try it out!
Nothing personal kid
Captain: "You are already KO'd."
Alot of people forget to mention that Warlock Blade can one shot shields.
Other things you missed:
Falcon Dive has a hit box at the very top of the move, so you can you can use it to kill off the top.
Fire Fang is safe on shield and has ok shield damage
You should make more of these, Luigi’s custom moves were pretty good
I love Dr Mario's big pill as well as Wario's rose waft lol
They did 1 balance patch for custom moves during smash 4slife. I feel if it was more popular they would have done more and a custom move format could have been more fleshed out.
Darn, that’s a shame. It would really added to the variety of Ultimate. I could imagine people doing custom tourneys without a doubt in Ult
@@LazyStarrfish The problem is unlocking all of the custom moves is tedious as fuck.
@@spreadwuvokay you were never supposed to be able to unlock them all at once. That’s literally the whole point. Nintendo should’ve just made a dedicated tournament client that Auto Unlock’s them like every other company
4:32 I reckon this can be used to punish short ranged attacks when they whiff.
7:30 Maybe used for spiking (would make alot of sense)
Yes, & yes.
I’m so upset they got rid of these. They seriously need to bring this these back
I'd love to see Marth's custom up b showcased where he goes extremely far fowards, it was so good
The Iai counter right? I love that one too. It’s cool looking and a bit better
@@ae_angles I think they mean the Up B Dolphin Slash variant that sends Marth at a more horizontal angle. But that move, and the Iai Counter are both quite nuts
4:15 "It´s quite hard to pull off tho, as I don´t even know how to do it"
5:24 "I´ve trying for like 10 minutes, but keep my word on it, it spikes"
I genuinely like how honest you are lmao
I think 2 really funny customs were Kirby's Ice Breath for Neutral B and Wario's Garlic Breath for Neutral B
Okay but what about the leaping Kirby
thats funny too
All of C.falcons custom Down B’s were so good, the lightning one was so fun to use. I miss custom moves so much, I just wish it was added as a last update for smash ultimate alongside smash run.
I miss these creative and whacky moves. Used to experiment with them so much back in the day.
Wario's inhale chomp is actually a reference to Wario World!
Weird on itself that there's a reference to his action games for once, but of course this was completely removed in Ultimate because why not
Ganondorf wizard dropkick Should have been his normal downB for ultimate i swear
It Is an incredible and super cool move, i am sad It was trashed
4:30. I think it’s a counter of sorts. Move back to dodge then king forward an hit
Custom moves were a really cool idea for casual play, or just messing around in general. I kinda wish they came back in Ultimate, but I do understand why they were cut, and it gives Smash 4 it’s own identity.
“Even I don’t know how to do it” the way he said it with the long pause after had me dying 😂
Mighty Falcon Punch is actually WEAKER than the regular one. There is absolutely no reason to use it. And his Up-B that was shown off has a hitbox while he is going up, but not at the start.
These videos are nice but I feel like some information is being left out, or misinformation at all, like the infinite armor on Kirby's giant hammer, he can charge it. And none of Falcon's Side Bs were for combos in Smash 4, it was a kill option.
I love jet Kirby and his jet burst move
Marth's (and Lucina's) crescent slash custom gave Marth grab release combos like a brawl character. Basically if you get air released at 70% near ledge you're dead
It’s neat that Ganon gets the Sage Sword for a neutral b, Sonic gets his fire spin dash from Sonic Adventure 2, and Wario’s inhale chomp from Wario World. I always loves custom moves, so it’s a shame custom tournaments were omitted a while into SSB4’s lifespan.
it's honestly interesting to see someone talk about custom moves
I really love this series. Keep going and I'd love to see more interesting and overpowered custom moves!
Samus’s giant charge shot is a funny ledge trapping tool. Her other custom charge shot is garbage tho
Nah, the close combat blast gives Samus some ludicrous mobility that she doesn't get through anything else.
Really good for CQC Samus.
I'm glad you brought up Bowser my custom moveset for him actually is the fire ball, the sliding dash and the super high up b as they give great recovery while allowing Bowser to be a psuedo rush down grappler character
You didn't do justice for Sonic. Hammer Spindash is the most busted custom in the entire game. Mocha got 9th at Evo spamming it 50+ times per match. It's 100% unpunishable with it's invulnerability, goes at an angle that's hard to punish out of shield, and grounds it's opponents on contact.
Funny thing about Fox's mega shine is that the windbox gets stronger with percents, it was actually a good gimping tool
I love seeing these custom moves videos. I suggest checking out Luigi, his were fun.
I love these smash 4 custom videos! Make more
Custom moves are the coolest thing about 4
Damn you have double the subs you had when i subbed! Keep it up man i love your videos!!!!!
Im loving these, i sold mi wiiu to get a switch (latam moment) so these fills me whit a lot of nostalgia, keep up the good work man and congrats for that lot pf subs
Custom moves could have gone really good with spirit battles in Ultimate.
Fox big laser is straight up a Wolf's neutral-b but more knockback
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Wow brings back smash 4 memories, wish I played around with custom moves a bit more.
I love your videos and the concept, but sometimes I feel like you could be going more in depth with the moves. but your videos are great. keep it up!
9:04 thats fire fang
For future reference the St. Stands for Saint
"Flare Blitz but there's no flare... it just kills."
-rofire 2022
i honestly hope your channel blows up
If I recall correctly, the longer startup Falcon Punch with a bigger falcon hitbox actually does LESS damage and knockback, but has a bigger hitbox, with the description being wrong
edit: also the Surprise Attack one definitely can lock on and such like the normal one. I remember annoying one of my friends by spamming it when they were offstage, because it's so fast. Maybe it works a bit weirder though, i don't remember, been a while.
Btw the electric falcon kick infinite is frame perfect everytime you stack another kick
"as you can see, this move greatly improves his recovery"
*doesn't use it offstage*
4:31 you can run up to someone and reverse side b and you can be behind them, it looks cool that’s one think for sure.
I used Charizard's Fire Fang all the time. I felt it was much more powerful than the standard version
one of your best videos yet!
customs with friends was some of the most fun I’ve gotten out of smash
I think Luigi’s Custom moves could be fun to talk about
I miss custom moves. Even though some of them had like 0 thought put into them lol. But I think they should have made Gannondorfs custom with the sword his neutral special in ultimate. Just to keep with the theme of adding sword attacks into his moves
Im callin it now, this channel about to blow up.
“Might aswell use his regular falcon punch which isnt even that good”
*gasp* the humanity!
I just love that they gave Charizard a move from his final smash as a custom move it was so much fun to use.
If I recall correctly those two moves from Charizard are fire Fang and Dragon Rush
I love that he is beating up bayo during the whole video
I completely forgot about the custom moves!!
I wish this was implemented in Ultimate where when can pick a character you can put whatever special moves you want.
Villager custom moves and DK up B are probably the most iconic for how broken they were. Pikachu also had a tjolt that stunned so you could do an infinite similar to Falcon (but better since it's a projectile and much more spammable)
Costum moves tournament? Let me get the dust of my wii u
Id like to mention Crescent Slash for Marth and Lucina, goes more diagonal but kills quicker
Why am I only finding ur channel now these vids are amazing !
This is great content! But also there’s more too some of the moves then you know
Doctor Mario had some fun Custom moves
i would have loved these in ssbu I absolutely love the concept
Am I the only one who wished Custom Moves came back in Ultimate: Yeah sure, competitive would kick up a storm. But here's a novel concept that they should be used to...ready... *Just don't use them*
Custom moves tournament sounds awesome
Falcon's blue up b is a kill option out of up air combos which is why I used it
I actually liked the sword, I remember trying to unlock the custy moves to make the most op sets with the equipment to
This was one of the best parts of smash 4 in my opinion.
You know we can hear your controller clacking right? So when you're talking about Wario's speed bike we... we can hear you not actually trying to get out of the bike. In fact, 7:55 you DO get off of it, but then continue to DI to the blast zone. If you don't like a power that is entirely understandable and you have every right, but... Why lie?
And
this guy has a lot of really weird inconsistencies in his youtube videos. he’ll insist that some options are true combos, won’t show off some of the things he’s talking about for some reason, says things that are blatantly untrue like the bowser side b custom is like an aerial wavedash, etc. his pfp and intro are super basic almost to a satirical level, which is strange because it has been shown that he has a certain level of technical proficiency with modding, it’s really strange
@@yeehaw8089 as you said, its a fucking satire channel bro come fucking on its not that hard to understand
@@rapoulasp4809 what part of the last few videos or this one have been satire
@@yeehaw8089 yeah
If I remember, robin got the real short end when it comes to some custom moves
Your intro catches me off guard every single time it’s insane
I want to see custom move tournament. This seems very sick
I played smash 4 a lot on my 3Ds but I didn’t know about a lot of these custom moves
It's interesting how the concept of custom moves was just dropped by the time dlc became a thing.
yooo I just watched your last custom move video and subscribed a couple hours ago
I'm surprised people still play smash 4. I miss the custom moves, or the game in general. I just wish the console itself was better.
Honestly, these and Smash Run(And to an extent, Smash Tour) are the things I miss most from Sm4sh…Also, the PAC-MAZE and Rainbow Road stages, because why the hell couldn’t we have those back in Ultimate
I’d be interested in a custom move tournament
I'm drawn to these videos because of the topic, but I'm kind of put off by the lack of polish. As a smaller RUclips just starting out, you should work on the occasional stuttering or maybe edit them out. Another example of where your editing could improve is seen when you mis-input Wario's Up-B; that part could have just been cut out.
I mean all of this as a way to be helpful, not disrespectful! Keep it up and work on some stuff. I like this kind of content a lot.
I'm glad to see that someone else still plays Smash 4 today =)
Seriously, they should've used Bowser's custom side B as his default. Maybe people can learn to finally play Bowser instead of going for cheap kills.
5:08 5:42 *Gets flashbacks to Meta Knight side-b*
Fun fact you can hold armoured jet hammer as dedede and super armour anything aside grabs, this was pretty cheesy in matches as dedede could literally just bust out the thing when he is in kill % and got nothing to lose then simply wait in your face oustide of grab ranage then punish anything as a response
i hope you keep making more of these!!
7:35
How funny would it be if that spiked
Custom moves were so GOOOOOD
I'd love to see you discuss four greninja's custom moves as well as Mega man's
Now imagine custom moves in Ultimate, SSBU would be heavily busted
I’d say you should do a series looking at what custom moves should be a characters de facto move
I remember doing combos with koopa claw swing like landing claw swing into down b
I'd love to see Peach's custom moves along with Yoshi, Lucario, Falco and Zelda
DK kong cyclone is just stupid af it’s huge it’s fast it has a windbox ect
Lightweight Palutena is just amazing
Power vision is vision but more extreme
Rocket barrel attack is exactly what diddy needed
Meteor stone was awesome
So many amazing moves
Omg custom moves are so cool, making a custom tournament sounds so cool but you'd probably wanna ban some
broo u gotta talk about wii fit’s custom moves, the huge hoola hoops and the jumbo soccer ball those are so whacky
Bro falcons dodge raptor boost is cool, its prolly not very good but it was a cool dodge attackthing
bro, dedede's custom side be litteraly makes you invincable it's rediculouse
That straight down homing attack on Sonic is a spike